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EXCLUSIVE: DTP Gets A Major Shakeup. Bobby Valentino, Shareefa, and Mr. Oridnary Are Gone!!

Posted on February 29, 2008 10:00 AM

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The industry is all a buzz about Disturbing the Peace records. Apparently there is a major shakeup happening as we read.

According to SEVERAL of my close Def Jam sources all hell is breaking loose on Ludacris DTP imprint. Apparently when the label brought all their R&B artists to perform at Spotlight for LA Reid, along with a bunch of industry heads in NYC earlier this week, the feedback was less then thrilling. The performances were SOHH lackluster that a source told me that LA told Luda that he can take his acts and “hit the road”.

As of right now Bobby Valentino, Shareefa, and the extremely talented Stephan Jones, AKA Mr. Ordinaray has all been dropped. Sources close to Bobby claim that the artist plans on dropping his next untitled CD on iTunes. No word yet on where Shareefa, and Steph Jones will end up.

Word on the streetz is that DTP heads are planning on severing ties with Def Jam over all the drama. Again, this is what I am hearing. I hope its not true, but you know I got to keep my readers in the know.

Update:

I truly hope that this is just vicious innuendo from some overzealous haters at Def Jam.

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110 Comments

Not that I really care about these dudes, but Streetz, this is the type of shit u should be writing about. Some of ur shit so wack, but this is somethin worth stating even though I don't care for these niggaz.

Write about something we care about like how this artist named 12 Roundz from CT is doing it big.

Stay Tuned......

H.I.T.M Productions

Fuck Ringtone Rap
Support real music..

i saw this coming. DEF JAM is fallin apart slowly but surely. boby and shareefa are good talents so is steph. def jam rather market trash than the real talent. they need to wake up. luda can make it on his own. can wait for his deal 2 b up with def jam hes 1 of my fav rappers and 1 of the most consistent in the game; also one of the most hated on and isnt given his props. i dont know what L.A. Reid and his def jam staff are gettin into these days. its a real damn shame that good talent isnt gettin their due marketing and RESPECT look at redman, chrisette michele and method man n em. damn shame

Talents great and all that but if youre not selling shit you are of no use to the label. Its not Def Jam "Hatin'" its the fact that when these artists dropped they didnt sell enough to justify keeping them on the label.Period

Talents great and all that but if youre not selling shit you are of no use to the label. Its not Def Jam "Hatin'" its the fact that when these artists dropped they didnt sell enough to justify keeping them on the label.Period

Instead of dumpin those other nobodies in DTP Luda dumped Bobby V and Shareef??? SMH@ hood loyalty>talent

this is mad fucked up, all three had the potential to go platinum

they're not going to be free agents for long believe me

@ moresickaMC

I said the same thing when I saw that DTP cover

DEF JAM SUCCz AND IM NOT REALLY SUPRISED. THEY BIG UP RIHANNA LIKE SHE SOLD ALOT OF RECORDz BUT SHE IS JUST PLATINUM AND THAEY ARE SPENDIN TOO MUCH MONEY ON HER AD CAMPAIGNz SO THAT MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT 2 TIMES OVER. THEY NEED TO GET BACC TO WHAT THEY KNOW AND THATz HIP HOP AND LEAVE THAT R&B SHIT ALONE.

Why does this gay guy start talking when I click onto this blog? Stop the madness.

LA Reid is under fire so, he's trying to save face and needs some scapegoats, why he picked artists who actually have talent is beyond human understanding though. That building is a graveyard right now

Def Jam is over. Why would they drop singers that can sing but not drop DREAM? Im sure all 3 of them will sign somewhere else and LA GREED will be fired soon.

I HATE CHARLAMAGNE

Thats a hardway to go out if this is true. DTP got strong enough artist to bounce back. Sharefa is hard,the kid Step Jones got some good songs and people like Bobby V.

Def Jam need to bring Russ back!!!

Thats a hardway to go out if this is true. DTP got strong enough artist to bounce back. Sharefa is hard,the kid Step Jones got some good songs and people like Bobby V.

Def Jam need to bring Russ back!!!

"Thats a hardway to go out if this is true. DTP got strong enough artist to bounce back. Sharefa is hard,the kid Step Jones got some good songs and people like Bobby V.
Def Jam need to bring Russ back!!!"

LMAO @ kicksandchicks. I agree. Russell Simmons for PRESIDENT

Bobby Valentino will get picked up easy. Steph Jones possibly, but Shareefa betta start looking in the want ads for a tv personality job. Bitch was a flop from the get go.

@everybody

Don't let gayant hear the end of this one.

remember that blog he posted a while back where he had bobby valentinos nuts sack all in his mouth talking about how he's the man at dtp because he just cracked gold after 30 years.....

What a asset bobby valentino and steph jones(who?) was to defjam/dtp,LOL! Gyant IS A DICK RIDING AMBIGUOUSLY GAY IDIOT!!! Hahahaha!!!

THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT BOBBY V AND STEPH JONES WILL GET PICKED UP. I WAS AT THE SHOW AND STEPH DIDNT DO BAD AT ALL DESPITE THE GHETTO ASS KAOROKE SOUND SYSTEM THEY HAD, NOT TO MENTION THE MIC TURNED OFF. THIS IS MUCH DEEPER THAN THE SHOWCASE MR. REID!! WE DONT BELIEVE YOU YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE AND JUDGING BY HOW BROKE DEFJAM IS BECOMING YOU ARE REALLY GONNA NEED MORE PEOPLE

look like da independent game is gettin some more artists
http://www.myspace.com/jdubbthayounghectic


Talents great and all that but if youre not selling shit you are of no use to the label. Its not Def Jam "Hatin'" its the fact that when these artists dropped they didnt sell enough to justify keeping them on the label.Period


YO THATS WHERE MARKETING COMES IN!

# J-SMOOTH says...
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DEF JAM SUCCz AND IM NOT REALLY SUPRISED. THEY BIG UP RIHANNA LIKE SHE SOLD ALOT OF RECORDz BUT SHE IS JUST PLATINUM AND THAEY ARE SPENDIN TOO MUCH MONEY ON HER AD CAMPAIGNz SO THAT MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT 2 TIMES OVER. THEY NEED TO GET BACC TO WHAT THEY KNOW AND THATz HIP HOP AND LEAVE THAT R&B SHIT ALONE.

I AGREE WIT U 1 BILLION %!

One thing you dont realilze...Rihanna has sold over 4million Good Girl Gone Bad albums worldwide and is still selling. There are other markets outside the U.S. Her Single Umbrella was ranked in the Top 10 of Best Selling Singles in the Last Decade. Also, DSTM is #1 in the World Charts.

You cats talking bad about Def Jam let me ask you this. Would you put your millions up on projects for Meth and these DTP bums or Rihanna? That's a no brainer IMO. STFU hating on Def Jam. If it don't make dollars it don't make since!

Cmon you can't be serious, rhianna's first 2 albums flopped until DefScam went out and purchased the new album to avoid her flopping again. The Dream has a face for radio and a voice for magazines and Rocko....cmon, this shit is bogus Bobby Valentino and Steph Jones are both real artist caught up in the bullshit of a evil empire

this is all Jay-Z's fault LMAO who yall gonna blame now that jiggas out of there

you muthafuccas comming on here sounding all concerned, hahah bet none of yall brought these muthafuccas albums or was gonna buy they future shit,never brought those compilations either,so stop speaking about talent like yall could market them hahaha yell

www.myspace.com/panhandoelrcorp

lf tou have never bought these artists albums,please dont comment.lf your grammer is wack please dont comment neither.

IT'S A DAMN SHAME WHEN YOU STEAL NEWS POSTS AND THEN TRY TO CREDIT YOURSELF.. ACCORDING TO SEVERAL OF MY "CLOSE DEF JAM SOURCES" MY ASS! MISS INFO REPORTED THIS YESTERDAY YOU DAMN THIEF!!!

@SOHH Streetz

How are you going to blame this on Jay-Z?

Def Jam just needs to stop the madness and make sure artists are putting good music out, Its a different market out here now if you aint gotta buzz yo ass is grass. I think dropping Bobby V would be a bad move he has a good fan base. Luda's effectiveness as an executive is still up in the air but he does find some talented artists, the strategy in which markets them need to be restructured especially these days...

FUCK each and every one of you who posted before me and even those who will post after me.(except COOP and JD) Not more than 24 hrs. ago I could have asked ya'll about Def Jam and ya'll would have said Jay-Z fucked it up. Now that the funny business is still going on its not much you can say, you bandwagon no style original, bite whatever you see in videos misinformed mofos.

And LA Reid might have been correct doing things the way he's doing them. With piracy and file sharing its less and less important to sell a record and more and more important that you be able to perform live and connect with fans.

They suck so hard.

Its real funny how major label employees and execs complain about consumers not buying cd's when its there fault for not getting in the mix of the download craze when it began!!!

Consumers are consumers,there not these artist friends,so there gonna look for the better deal when going shopping...

this is what you get for thinking your smart and being arrogant...

whatever happened to the old days of hiphop,when record companys didn't pretend to know about music,they just did there job: PUSH RECORDS... And the artist took care of music end...

Don't get mad because your PIMP hand is startin to get weak,LoL!

Its real funny how major label execs and employees limit hiphop(to ghetto ignorance and nonsense) and r&b music creatively,then wonders why the music gets redundant and the fans are less enthusiastic about buying a whole cd...

there's only one hiphop album that I've been able to listen to all the way through since 1997...

SOHH Gyant says...
Soulman words can not express how much I am going to miss you. While I know I am known as the “troublemaker” on various SOHH blogs, I couldn’t have gotten as far as I have without you standing behind me battling it out with the SOHH gods.

We were a tag team, and its because of OUR hard work and dedication that has our blogs on the tips of peoples tongues. Our “blog hard or go home” mantra has elevated the game to unconscionable proportions. Whom ever takes your place better get with the program. The Soulman brought the goods. And he brought them consistently EVERY SINGLE DAY. You got some big shoes to fill.

To the Soulman; Nobody did it like you did. Good or bad, you always put your thang in it. I could only dream of being as good of a writer as you

Well, this just goes to show you when you have an "R & B " dude up there running the label, his has been ass knows nuthing about Hip Hop/street music....He couldnt even contiue his own label(LaFace)...and all you naysayers who said it was Jay Z's fault before, can eat a fat dyck and then choke on it and die...basically kill yourselves.. MajFed is done...just like the rest of these labels...in today's industry you artist's better realize how to do for self..especially with the internet there; so put your scrupples to work! Things just aint the same...Bobby V keep doing ya thing lil homie and Luda you gonna do ya numbers regardless, you dont need JamDef...buncha Fools.

I hope this is bullshit.And to you hatin ass bloggers on here talkin bout yall dont care,why the fuck are you responding.why are you reading this,nobody cares about 12 rounds from ct

Great News!!!

I'll let the real, original and talented Bobby Valentino know the good news.

tisk tisk, yet another Black Executive afraid to do black music
afraid to be bold, and care about talent and not have the jaded views
their puppet masters may have. yes you need to make money, but if you embrace TALENT and develop it.
we can keep our music alive...
i'm so ashamed to work for Def Jam
right now, and 90% of the staff feels like me... sorry Mr. Reid

No one should be surprised because everyone on DTP outside of Luda and Bobby V sucks. I'm not trying to hate or anything but Luda is the only one who has consistently made quality music. Bobby V has done pretty good as well but the rest of those acts suck. Luda is great at being an artist, he's definitely one of the best but I don't know how good he is at identifying new talent.

GOLDIE YOU MIGHT WANNA DO YOUR RESEARCH ON THE MOVEMENT STEPH JONES HAS GOING ON AND HOW IT WILL BE A CHANGE FOR THE BETTER FOR THE INDUSTRY BEFORE YOU SAY HE SUCKS. TRUTH BE TOLD THEY DIDNT GET DROPPED BECAUSE OF THE PERFORMANCE, THEY GOT DROPPED BECAUSE THAT WAS THE SLICKEST WAY FOR MR. LA RIED TO SAY DEFJAM IS BROKE

GOLDIE YOU MIGHT WANNA DO YOUR RESEARCH ON THE MOVEMENT STEPH JONES HAS GOING ON AND HOW IT WILL BE A CHANGE FOR THE BETTER FOR THE INDUSTRY BEFORE YOU SAY HE SUCKS. TRUTH BE TOLD THEY DIDNT GET DROPPED BECAUSE OF THE PERFORMANCE, THEY GOT DROPPED BECAUSE THAT WAS THE SLICKEST WAY FOR MR. LA RIED TO SAY DEFJAM IS BROKE

It's not like Def Jam was doing that much to market these singers products anyway. Valentino was speaking on that when his album drop and every artist seems to speak on a lack of support from Def Jam across the board. Might be better off with LA Reid.....

HE NEED START FROM SCRATCH ---I DONT LISTEN TO NOBODY IN DTP BUT LUDA...

I don't know what the hell Def Jam is doing over there. Guess it was a clear sign when Jay left how unstable the situation may be there. How do you drop Bobby V. who had one of..if not the best R&B album in years but push corny azz Ne-yo and Rihanna shyt???!@#$% I personally saw Ne-yo in concert in N.O. during the Essence Music festival. And I swear Lionel Richie had a way better performance!!! Not hatin, but confused on what these execs think should be promoted to the masses..just simply oblivious!

I ask, cuz I'm that sure, does anybody make real sh1t anymore? DOUBT IT!

Oh no he didn't! Yes I did... yes I did... click it, y'all!!!

~~Charles Hamilton~~

Newsflash: "Talent" is subjective. What makes anyone think their idea of talent is worth anything to anyone but them?


Labels equate "talent" with sales. Hence, the only "talent" they care about is the talent to make them money. Either you got it or you don't.


They don't invest millions of dollars for the listening pleasure of a handful of people who think they KNOW what's going on musically.


Ultimately, whatever the trend is in the marketplace is what the industry gets behind. Most execs are old and out of touch with the grass roots so they ride the artistic bandwagon until something new comes along.


If any of those artists had sold more units or received a better reception at radio they might still be on Def Jam.

IM GONNA HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU NIMROD.. IM NOT SURE YOU KNOW HOW THIS BUSINES GOES BUT THE BACKING OF A LABEL IS INVOLVED WHEN IT COMES TO RADIO PLAY AND BOBBY V HAD A PLATINUM ALBUM AND A GOLD ALBUM WITH NO PUSH FROM DEFJAM WHAT SO EVER NOW IMAGINE WHAT HE WOULDVE DONE IF THEY PUT THE SAME PUSH BEHIND HIS PRODUCT THAT THEY DID FOR RIHANNA OR NE YO... AND NOTHING CAN BE SAID ABOUT STEPH JONES EXCEPT HE MAKES GREAT MUSIC. HE HASNT PUT ANYTHING OUT SO HOW CAN ANYONE SAY SOMETHING BAD WHEN HE DIDNT EVEN GET HIS FAIR SHARE? I WAS AT THE SHOW AND IT WASNT BAD AT ALL.. MR. LA GREED JUST PULLED A POLITICAL STUNT TO MASK THE FACT THAT DEFJAM IS BROKE

@ Sonic: First of all, Steph Jones hasn't dropped yet. So that was kind of dumb to talk about him not selling enough to keep him on the label.

Secondly, I attended that show. There was some bullshit going on that night and I don't know WTF exactly was going on, but the mics for Steph and his background singers completely went out for an entire song and then disrupted his set. Then later, they do the same shit to Bobby and it disrupts his. So... lackluster performances??? I think not. Shitty equipment and/or sound guy??? Yes.

im gonna holla at you niggas! trust me! for sure for sure! goodluck and take care of yourselves! for real for real! goodluck!

hiphop is over! goodluck!

@Realist


I certainly do understand the fundementals of not only the music business but business in general. Though I will admit I'm not a fan of any of the artists mentioned so I'm really not as familiar with their #'s.


I have no idea what any of them did but if they were making money for the company it's hard to fathom they'd be getting dropped especially since Def Jam is broke like you say.


I do know Def Jam is NOTORIOUS for buying scans and I don't believe ANY sales info from that company. Maybe you overlooked that part of the business when coming to your conclusions.


Like I said, none of this is about who you, I or anyone else for that matter think is hot. You gotta make money. Also, pushing R&B acts cost more than rap acts.

Just look at all the push Rhianna got and how modest the result is. It's tough right now. If grammy winning artists who get big support can't even sell out entire tours then what do you do with a Bobby V or Shareefa?


A lot of people see the world through rose colored glasses. Businessmen only see green and if they saw enough of it all these "talented" people wouldn't be getting dropped.

WELL IF THAT WAS THE CASE NIMROD THEN MR. LA GREED WOULDNTVE PASSED UP ON CHRIS BROWN. BUSINESS MEN CAN SEE GREEN BUT IN THE END THE WRONG GREEN WILL EVENTUALLY BITE YOU IN THE ASS... IDE RATHER HAVE CABBAGE THAN FUNGUS.. SO MR. LA GREED CAN GET HIS MONEY BUT WATCH WHAT HAPPENS TO DEF JAM.. THERE IS A REASON WHY LAFACE AND ARISTA FELL APART

WELL IF THAT WAS THE CASE NIMROD THEN MR. LA GREED WOULDNTVE PASSED UP ON CHRIS BROWN. BUSINESS MEN CAN SEE GREEN BUT IN THE END THE WRONG GREEN WILL EVENTUALLY BITE YOU IN THE ASS... IDE RATHER HAVE CABBAGE THAN FUNGUS.. SO MR. LA GREED CAN GET HIS MONEY BUT WATCH WHAT HAPPENS TO DEF JAM.. THERE IS A REASON WHY LAFACE AND ARISTA FELL APART

WELL IF THAT WAS THE CASE NIMROD THEN MR. LA GREED WOULDNTVE PASSED UP ON CHRIS BROWN. BUSINESS MEN CAN SEE GREEN BUT IN THE END THE WRONG GREEN WILL EVENTUALLY BITE YOU IN THE ASS... IDE RATHER HAVE CABBAGE THAN FUNGUS.. SO MR. LA GREED CAN GET HIS MONEY BUT WATCH WHAT HAPPENS TO DEF JAM.. THERE IS A REASON WHY LAFACE AND ARISTA FELL APART

@Realist


You sound like you got a personal with LA and maybe it's justified I don't know. I'm just an unbiased observer.


So what LA didn't sign Chris Brown, Russell Simmons passed on signing Madonna. Are you looking for perfection in these guys? They make mistakes like everyone else and not signing someone is not the same as having them make money and dropping them. I don't see your point.


For LA to end up at Def Jam after LaFace and Arista was pretty much a fall from grace anyway. Almost as bad as Tommy Mottola going from being the head of Sony to Casablanca.

LA is an old dude who sticks to a familiar formula. I'm not the LA expert but I know him for female artists more than anything else. That might be his niche. I can't call it.


Once Lyor and the old regime left, Def Jam was a farce point blank. Jay Z was what made the farce seem legitimate to the untrained eye but even his role as "president" was a farce.


There's a combination of things at play. There's the impotence of true black execs, there's dwindling sales due to downloads and let's not forget the dwindling interest in hip hop. It's a tough time in the biz and the free ride is over. Job security is threatened.


It's a damn shame but all bets are off with rap and anyone; exec, artist, producer connected with rap are going to experience a drop in value. It's just that simple. Those cuts are just the beginning and it won't stop with Def Jam.


Time to dust off those resumes and contemplate career changes.

@Nimrod: First of all, to drop them because they weren't making money (or didn't "do their numbers") for the company would imply they had the chance to in the first place. Steph Jones hasn't even dropped yet. He only got signed a year ago LoL so that's ludicrous (no pun intended LoL) to say that's why he was dropped. Not to mention he has an enormous fanbase, most of which was created before he even signed to DTP... and to suggest he was dropped because of ONE "supposedly" "lackluster" performance is insane.

Not to mention, it just doesn;t even sound right for Bobby Valentino to get dropped at all, especially for a "lackluster" performance (for the record, all 3 of the WENT IN that night. the audience was not giving them much to work with besides the fact that the sound people were fucking up). That boy is a star. Anonymous was a huge record for him last year. Not to mention Slow Down and Tell Me... it just doesn't make sense to drop someone like Bobby.

Shareefa... I have no comment. Perosnally, I like her. But I didn't hear her album and I never heard anything more from her after I Need A Boss.

But it just doesn't add up. Something just doesn't fit with the whole situation. And as Realist put it, I think "LA Greed" is full of shit.

Listen I don't know why they got dropped but I do know even if someone felt they could make money on them they simply would've placed them on one of the many other labels in the Universal system if it was just a matter of Def Jam folding.


I'm not speaking on the talent of these acts. My opinion like anyone else who doesn't sign checks doesn't really matter in a situation like this.


If only the people who think they're stars could sign them and make all the money they're sure these acts could make. If I was so sure I'd take out a mortgage on my home if I had to, to get it popping.


See it's real easy to play armchair exec with someone else's money on the line. I don't know what these groups could do but if I believed in them and had the paper I'd get behind them. Let Def Jam's loss be your gain.


You can't get mad at people for not wanting to spend THEIR money. If they're as hot as everyone says then they'll find another home.

Def Jam's loss is DEFINITELY going to be someone else's gain. Bobby will get picked up immediately and so will Steph. 'Reefa... not sure. Probably.

But we'll see.


This is some bullshit though. I think it's extremely unfair and unprofessional for L.A. to attend a show and then make an announcement about dropping all of the performers at the show due to "lackluster" performances when it really has to do with him and the label not being able to do their part. It's unfair to the artists because he's using them as scapegoats

The worst investment DTP has made yet was Shawty Lo (he kno! lol). If he's still on the roster, then Luda has more to worry about than losing a woman who needs a boss and a guy who is still trying to convince a girl to stop turning in circles and tell him her name.

It's just that simple.

As substanative as Luda's music is, you would think he would find people with such substance in their music. Honestly, as much as I love Ludacris, why hasn't anyone held him to the flame?

In trying to find a universal sound, he found half-way decent artists in each genre of urman music. Shawty Lo is the biggest head-scratching move he could ever make. Shawnna is his best move, but she can't move units, which sucks for her. She's dead nice. Bobby V was a welcome reprise for the time he came out, but let's be serious, without Tim and Bob (first album) and Timbaland (second), would anyone NOT laugh at the fact his last name is Valentino? Field Mob is dope. I could understand why he would sign him. But I think Luda was listening as a fan. He's supposed to, but when you're Ludacris, you can't afford to be a FAN of an act, especially when you know your worth. You have to be real about your investments.

He probably doesn't care.

He's still counting "Crash" money.

And I'm still counting no money. Why am I even talking?

~~Charles Hamilton~~

These labels just be signin artists to fill their quota..It's ALL about first week sales,n that's alot of pressure for a NEW artist.Labels dont wanna put time in building an artist anymore..U basically gotta make your own buzz,then they come in n pretty much cash in on most of the work you've done yourself.Just imagine if lables back in the day thought like these dudes now.Some of the biggest artists in the game woulda got dropped after their first album..How come u NEVER hear about the rock,or country artists talk about 1 week #'s ?

I was at the show also Dirtysoufyankee, but if you are going to tell the story- then tell the full story. The entire show was TERRIBLE from the comedian trying to make record exeuctives stand up (which is a totaly no-no in the industry) to the second rate band and third rate performances.

You knew something was wrong when Luda nearly pleaded with the audience to open their minds to some "new shit" ... it was nearly as if he was begging for mercy before the show started.

And Yes, you are correct in stating that the sound was less than professional and mics cut out during performances- but that was nearly the best part.

Stef's stage presence was a mess and the crowd was less than thrilled by his idle banter and nearly yelled at him to start singing, which wasn't much better.

Why don't we discuss how Shareefa had to bring up that chick from Floetry to help her sing "Yes" and homegirl totally destroyed her on the song. I dont even know why Shareefa tried to sing after her because she sounded like a waste.

By the time Bobby Valentino started to sing, people started leaving- me included.

LA was embarrassed and my entire table was embarrassed for him- thinking somehow the Sandman would come out from the sideline and usher people off stage. I am sure you took stock of who was in the audience and saw that most of the reps from the Majors were there interspersed with the crowds of groupies and wannabe's, but the crowd was extremely high profile, which made you want to crawl under your table even more.

It made me wonder why they even performed to begin with... was that Luda's doing? And if so, did he not attend soundcheck? or did LA make them perform to check up on the label? Either way, it was a sad day for R&B and a waste of time for anyone who attended... sad for the people that waited on line that night to get in, thank goodness for backdoor entrances (and exits).

Either they go hard, or get dropped.

@RealGyal5: I don't know what you're talking about. The only person you're right about is the comedian, he was crap. And as for,

"You knew something was wrong when Luda nearly pleaded with the audience to open their minds to some "new shit" ... it was nearly as if he was begging for mercy before the show started"

wtf?? Begging for mercy?? Um, no... all that was was him prepping people for Steph because Steph isn't your "typical" r&b type. His music is a little different.

And about,

"Why don't we discuss how Shareefa had to bring up that chick from Floetry to help her sing "Yes" and homegirl totally destroyed her on the song"

Um, clearly that was something that was planned out. Marsha was part of the set... not just someone that "happened" to be in the audience to come and help Shreefa. Andof course she was going to smash it, LmFaO it was HER song. But I thought 'Reefa did pretty well after Marsha left.

And I didn't see anything wrong with Bobby's performance either. I thought he did really well.

And to address the last part of your comment,

"LA was embarrassed and my entire table was embarrassed for him... I am sure you took stock of who was in the audience and saw that most of the reps from the Majors were there interspersed with the crowds of groupies and wannabe's, but the crowd was extremely high profile, which made you want to crawl under your table even more."

Yes, I know everyone who was in the building. I'm a photographer and I worked as press that night. I stood by/sat at Luda's table for the entire show, so I was right down in the mix of things. And they performed as part of the R&B Live series... if L.A. set it up and "made them" perform to "check up" on the label, I would think there would need to be a showcase/show including the rest of the roster (i.e. rappers).

Was it the best show ever on the face of the planet?? No. Did they do well considering the circumstances?? Yes. As a whole, it was an ok show with extenuating circumstances. Nothing spectacular, but sure as hell nothing to have all 3 acts dropped over either.

I THINK THAT REGARDLESS OF THE FINANCIAL STATE THAT DEF JAM IS IN, THE LABEL WOULD NOT DROP AN ARTIST WHOM THEY DEEM PROFITABLE. SO BOBBY V., STEPH JONES, AND SHAREEFA SIMPLY DON'T HAVE WHAT THE LABEL NEEDS AND WANTS IN AN ARTIST. POLITICS OR NOT, YOU ARE DISPOSABLE IF YOU DON'T BRING THE PROMISE OF GOOD PROFIT. BOBBY V. HAS SHOWN A SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN SALES OF HIS SECOND ALBUM; AND HAS ANYONE EVER REALLY HEARD OF THIS SHAREEFA CHARACTER? I'VE HEARD THAT DUDE STEPH JONES IS GREAT IN-STUDIO, BUT IS DOWN RIGHT HORRIBLE DOING LIVE SHOWS. PLUS HE'S SAID TO BE SOMEWHAT COCKY SO MAYBE HE THINKS HIS LOOKS WILL CARRY HIM OVER AND PICK UP THE SLACK FOR HIS WEAK VOCALS. WHATEVER THE CASE, IF THESE ARTISTS ARE AS TALENTED AS THEIR FANS CLAIM THEY ARE, DTP WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING THEM PICKED UP BY A MAJOR DISTRIBUTOR.

I THINK THAT REGARDLESS OF THE FINANCIAL STATE THAT DEF JAM IS IN, THE LABEL WOULD NOT DROP AN ARTIST WHOM THEY DEEM PROFITABLE. SO BOBBY V., STEPH JONES, AND SHAREEFA SIMPLY DON'T HAVE WHAT THE LABEL NEEDS AND WANTS IN AN ARTIST. POLITICS OR NOT, YOU ARE DISPOSABLE IF YOU DON'T BRING THE PROMISE OF GOOD PROFIT. BOBBY V. HAS SHOWN A SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN SALES OF HIS SECOND ALBUM; AND HAS ANYONE EVER REALLY HEARD OF THIS SHAREEFA CHARACTER? I'VE HEARD THAT DUDE STEPH JONES IS GREAT IN-STUDIO, BUT IS DOWN RIGHT HORRIBLE DOING LIVE SHOWS. PLUS HE'S SAID TO BE SOMEWHAT COCKY SO MAYBE HE THINKS HIS LOOKS WILL CARRY HIM OVER AND PICK UP THE SLACK FOR HIS WEAK VOCALS. WHATEVER THE CASE, IF THESE ARTISTS ARE AS TALENTED AS THEIR FANS CLAIM THEY ARE, DTP WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING THEM PICKED UP BY A MAJOR DISTRIBUTOR.

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