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Prima J, Nina Sky & J.Lo - Does R&B Give Latinas Their Due?

Written by SOHH Soul Rebel

Posted on May 14, 2008 10:00 AM

I'm starting to notice something around here -- when I post white folks, things can get a little funny, if you know what a mean, but that's a completely different topic, which I will get to very soon. For now I wanted to bring up the Latinas. What do you guys think about the success of acts like Prima J, Nina Sky & J.Lo? Do they get enough love or are they pushing it by trying to get R&B to show love?



"Corazon" (first single from Geffen artists Prima J)

LA cousins Jessica and Janelle Martinez were discovered by former Wild Orchid (the group Fergie used to be in) member Stefanie Ridel. At only 19 and 18 years old, I was impressed to hear the girls co-write their material. Their self-titled album is due out June 17th. In case you haven't already heard their song "Rock Star" which is featured in the Bratz movie (soundtrack July 31/film August 3rd) I'll also post that video.

And what about Nina Sky? Are they R&B artists or after collaborating with Nore have they been stamped as reggaeton?


Nina Sky "Tonite" acapella

Queens twins Nicole and Natalie Albino (who are Puerto Rican) can definitely sang -- but the girls have already had to endure a move to a new label and their second album The Musical has been much delayed. LOVE their "Goodbye" interlude

Even J.Lo hasn't had a #1 single in the US since 2003 ("All I Have") although "Get Right" made it to #1 in the UK.

Just had to ask because I also noticed fans and "urban" media alike even seem to begrudge the success of Latino personalities like BET's Rocsi & MTV's Cipha Sounds. Am I wrong here? Blowing things out of proportion? Do you like any Latino acts? Please talk to me y'all cuz I really wanna know! Don't be shy now -- keep it real.

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Latino artists such as Fat Joe, and other male artists, don't even get their props, so what would make you think that latinas is going to get their props. The only time that it seems that they do, is when they are fucking a black dude, or just ain't fucking with they own kind. I could be wrong, but it's what I see. Whites, and Blacks use their powers within the music industry to lock latinas down. They are not helping for us to become our own masters. They want to own all our masters.

@ Mike:

That's some bullsiht!!! First of all, howabout you find me a latina singer who can actually sing, then we'll think about co-signing that bullshit... J-Lo can't carry a fuckin tune. I swear that bitch is tone deaf... But i like Nina Sky though... They can't really sing either, but they cool wit me.


The fact of the matter is that these bitches can't sing. Go be mad at the label exects that allowed them non singing bitches to get signed. Don't be mad at the listener for not accepting the bull shit...

Nina Sky, Claudett Ortiz, and Kat DeLuna are all very talented. J.Lo, not so much. I don't think it's our fault though. the divide comes in when the "mainstream" get involved and a soulful latina becomes "the new hot latin popstar chick." Once that happens the urban group takes the low road and shuns them for "tryna be white." Blacks and hispanics are in the same boat but white people do whatever they can to keep us divided. It happens in music, politics, and everyday society.

Honestly, there aern't any latina acts out there that is making any type of headway. If there are, I really haven't heard of them. The reason being, is because the Latinos are always following in our footsteps. They need to make their own fashion and style and stop swagger jacking and copying us so much. They will always be 2-3 steps behind because they are still trying to catch up with the present .

Mike is right to some extent. There are many reason that we can argue of why Latina R&B acts are not making any headway. First, they always want to do a feature with a black artist to make them feel like they are down. We are tired of that. Come out and put your fellow latino crew in your videos. 2nd, latina's don't "sang" like black females. Black R&B artist have been known to blow. We really blow the hinges off the doors and have very strong voices. I'ts in our DNA. Latinos, have the water downed version of voices. When we hear songs, we like to feel them.

Where does Christina Aguilera fall in all of this? Or are we only looking at P. Rican acts. Because she's latina, she's dabbled in R&B and she definitely can sing.

I think as long as an artist has talent then it shouldn't matter what race or ethnicity they are. There are latina artists who can really blow, Angela Bofil (popular 80s r&b singer) Deemi and Karina Pasion are the ones that come to my mind

Honestly, there aern't any latina acts out there that is making any type of headway. If there are, I really haven't heard of them. The reason being, is because the Latinos are always following in our footsteps. They need to make their own fashion and style and stop swagger jacking and copying us so much. They will always be 2-3 steps behind because they are still trying to catch up with the present .

Chris, you hit it right on the nail!! Im latino and somw will get offended by what you said but I do get mad when my people try to imitate either white or black people in this country and thats why we are so behind and get treated with so much disrespect. We do have our own style, the men have the pretty boy look with the suave swag and the women have the ultimate charming sexy swag, thats us but I feel that we have abandoned our style because we do not believe in ourselves, we put each other down. Now with the singing part, blacks are the masters of that, no doubt about it. Blacks invented all American music and even so clled latino music: merengue ( african word) bachata ( west african) salsa ( elements of congo and mambo, both african words) cumbia ( african) so we have alot in common but the language is what separate us and our colonial mindset. What is funny is that we live in the same neighborhoods ( slums) but we act like we are so different. Dont you think we are packed in together for a reason? Think about that for a second.

I'm Panamenian. (Panama in Central America) We down here are like almost west indian. I'm from west indian ancestry as many panamenians. But people think that all latinos is like Ricans or Mexicans... I'm like what the hell! Here in Panama we as black as any african american, we speak spanish and creole english! We listen to salsa as much as to soul music... Maybe mainstream should check on some soulful latinos! Check out Raul Midon he's got it!

Bring back Goya!

What about Shakira? She is very successful.

@ K, Shakira doesnt do R&B though.

Thats crap...JLo was huge, Christian Aguilera, Paula Abdul got a cosign frm black stations.....just bring the talent and & theyll shine. Big Pun went plat twice & is respected as one of the greatest. Joell Ortiz is makin noise

I usually lurk but I have to comment here. I am a Dominican born and raised in Brooklyn. A lot of us are bi-cultural. What does that mean? That we like our rice but also our burgers. But major labels don't know what to do with us. They find some pretty latina who can sing a little and see what happens. Mariah Carey is black white and hispanic and she's the best selling artist!! Read up on it if you didn't know. Jlo got put on because she fronted the money. To me urban is urban whether Latin or American. Just like we like R&B and hip hop we like the reggaeton because of the same principal...it's urban. There's no swagger jacking. Nina Sky have nice voices they just haven't found a place yet. Ashanti couldn't sing or dance yet she still sold millions. It's all in the packaging. Kat De Luna is a trained opera singer yet she's labeled as a one hit wonder? Black and Latin people who are from the hood relate to each other. We go through the same stuff. You can sample bachata and merengue on hip hop songs and bump Daddy Yankee when he was hot but yet Latin people can't sing R&B? Tony Sunshine has a beautiful voice. But they can't figure out how to package him so he's never dropped an album. Those are my two cents.

None of the Latin "singers" are talented enough to sing Rhythm & Blues...that's why you don't hear much of J.Lo, Nina Sky, Tony Sunshine, Frankie J, Mario Vasquez, Lumidee, among many others on the R&B radio because they sound like pop artists with limited vocal talents.

Thanks for the interesting read people, many valid points made.

J. Lo is a successful r&b singer...If latino artist come with the heat they'll get respect.

Fat Joe sucks...and he thinks its ok for his fat ass to say nigger...it aint...I can' t stand that mofo.

I am marry to a latino woman and I will tell her the truth, that the only way latinos can make it in the music business is to have their own identity. We always hear of how some blacks make it to the top and forget about their people, but so do latinos. Fat Joe shitted on all of T.S., ask Big PUN's wife. Christina A. how many latinos have she put on. J. Lo just started to come to her roots and that is because she get no love from her community. Now she wants to come back home by marrying Marc Anthony. I am not going to say that latinos don't have talent, because I believe that you do, but in order for latinos to make it, you are going to have to cross-over to the english part of the business but don't forget where you came from. 1 last example, A. Rod didn't know if he was going to play for D.R. or U.S.A. in the baseball classic because he did not want to offend no one. You play for the Yankees, you are already on an American team, REPRESENT YOUR HOME AND YOUR PEOPLE.

they are definately hot, specially nina sky

Interesting topic. I think Christina and Tony Sunshine are both talented. Everyone knows Xtina can blow and Tony's no slouch, he's at least as good as Bobby V, given the right material. Nina Sky are kind of poppy from what I've heard and J.Lo had her little crossover success cuz she got Diddyfied. Certainly, I agree that ya'll don't get your shine cuz the execs don't know how to market Latino artists.

LMAO at u idiots! Ask shakira that question. Look at kat de luna she"s doing her thing. Why the hell do you think beyonce said she wish she was born a latina last year? They dont really need an english record to pop off. There are enough spanish speaking people to sell enough records without the help of others. I would mention N.furtado but i dont really know what her nationality is. Did ya forget about christina aguiellera?

Well Soul Rebel, I think you used the wrong latin artists to make your case LOL. These are all pop artists, none are R&B influenced. Christina Aguilera would have been your best bet. I like Tony Sunshine but he'll never put out an album which is a shame because his voice is good. Mario Vasquez has a good voice too but he doesn't get the right material to showcase that. Deemi is cool but where is her album?? Raul Midon is definitely sohh soulful but I guess Soul Rebel ain't up on him yet LOL. Claudette Ortiz is great but where is her album after all these years, City High been dead. I would love to see a 100% successful latin male and female in the R&B game but I doubt it. Their best bet is to make it in pop first then try to crossover like Mariah & Christina did. Much love to Mimi & Xtina cuz they are truly the best pop singers in the game.

Id rather see a latino then a white dude do R&B/Soul. THATS for sure.

I agree with Mike about Latinos not geting their props, but some know how to work the business tip. Joey Crack and Nore are doing that. No disrespect, but blame them if you want to blame someone for not helping out.

lol ,does fergei count/..she's part mexican!

I'm feelin Nina Sky, their really good, by the way check out this new music blog: http://djtriumph.blogspot.com

None of this Latino artist sing soul music or R&b music. So what are they doing on this blog ? These are pop artist, reggaeton artist or wateva. If you want to write a pop blog do it on another blog not this one.

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I am marry to a latino woman and I will tell her the truth, that the only way latinos can make it in the music business is to have their own identity. We always hear of how some blacks make it to the top and forget about their people, but so do latinos. Fat Joe shitted on all of T.S., ask Big PUN's wife. Christina A. how many latinos have she put on. J. Lo just started to come to her roots and that is because she get no love from her community. Now she wants to come back home by marrying Marc Anthony. I am not going to say that latinos don't have talent, because I believe that you do, but in order for latinos to make it, you are going to have to cross-over to the english part of the business but don't forget where you came from. 1 last example, A. Rod didn't know if he was going to play for D.R. or U.S.A. in the baseball classic because he did not want to offend no one. You play for the Yankees, you are already on an American team, REPRESENT YOUR HOME AND YOUR PEOPLE.
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I hope your not black because if you are you need to follow your own advice. You married to a Latino woman so practice what you preach.

latinos dont have voices like black ppl u can take the best latin singer ever and they still wont come close to the worst black singer ever thats just how it is....And black people and latinos go through the same shit on a daily basis in the ghettos around america at least they do in new york as far as i kno.. y do u think more than a quarter of the bi-racial ppl in new york are black and puerto rican. Blacks an latinos especially puerto ricans get along in new york black men are always gonna mess with latin women latin women will always mess with black men an black women will always mess with latin men blacks and latinos are forever gonna be tied to one another whether anybody likes it or not an i dont have a problem wit that.. most hispanic groups are mixed with african blood any way..

Funny Funny Funny... there are just as many P.R singers that hold there own as there is black and white singers... Just cause they don't blow in the english world don't mean shit. Look at the latin charts. Hmmm about Jlo who said she gets no love??? For the most part she was very successful with her albums. She is who she is for a reason. She holds a few records and her spanish album did very well. I can't believe how people talk so much shit like she was not the biggest and richest bitch going in her Selena days... That chick was in high demand on everything. I don't care if you think she sounds worse then britney spears she and britney too for that matter out sold half of these so called Beyonce singers. The music industry has changed you cant expect j-lo too still have the same success... she had her time, just like Janet, Brandy,Missy, Diddy ect ect. all them were super big and now sells show differently. Besides there all fucking rich so who gives a fuck. Marc A. can sing, Selena was great, Shakira has and is still killin um and there are plenty of other hispanics making good music. people say some singers are underrated every other day but trust thats all they say cause they damn sure ain't pick up that tamia, amerie, aaliyah, robyn thicke, or any other one of these very talented group of underrated singers. Shit aaliyah had to die to get some respect. So I give a fuck you to all the haters. Ya'll been loving j-lo since "On the 6" Bitches

1. Let's read the title and topic of the blog on stay on it:

"Does R&B give Latinas their due?"

So whoever brung up Fat Joe, NORE, Shakira, Kat De Luna, Marc Anthony, Selena (RIP), etc. up should sit the phuduck down and learn how to read and interpret before speaking. The above mentioned falls into either A) not LATINA but latinO, B) Not a singer, but a rap artist, or C) Not even classified as R&B, but a pop or other offspring genre of pop.


2. The reason why Latinas dont get their just due is simple: your biggest Latina "singer" over this generation is J.Lo.......a broad who can't hit any true notes, almost comes off as singing monotone, and to make up for her lack of true talent, they do things to the song (Ex: looping the hook on "Love Don't Cost A Thing" for like 3 minutes straight after the song is over) to "cover it up". Not to mention her almost always needing a rapper on a large majority of her big hits ("All I Have", "Feeling So Good", "Jenny From The Block", "Get Right") in between the joints that was too pop for a rapper to be on.....all in all, her A&R team and label was smart as hell. And y'all forget J.Lo music career didn't really start til she had movies under her belt, so she had money already. Nina Sky (the best Latinas Ive heard so far) didnt get laced like that. So fa real fa real, there shouldnt have been NO big name Latinas in R&B, but J.Lo bought and "pimped" her way in.


EASY

I like J-Lo but I prefer her acting skills over her singing and her dancing is phenom. I like Kat Deluna, Frankie J, Coby Odonis, Claudia Ortiz. I just love music period no matter who it's coming from. I like the genres cross over.

First off, RACE does not play a part in shit in this world but skin tones and injustice. All this "blacks can't sing like this", or "latinas can't sing like that" is bullshit and ignorance. There are latinos and latinas who can blow R&B. christina A. is LATINA, no matter how caucasian she may look, and she has gone into R&B over here career and done some creative things all together and Frankie J is HOT when it comes to singing R&B. Latinas in R&B do not get respected because off people who make things about race and image, when it really just about the damn music. Your race does not make you who you are...Only your experiences throughout life do. It is not "in our DNA" to be better at singing than any other race, more black artist have just been exposed in R&B to the public. Same for rock and roll, because african americans started all avenues of popular american music, but back in the 50s when rock and roll was forming, mostly white artists were getting exposed to the public. very few black rock artist were exposed, so now when you think rock and roll you place caucasian faces to the music (racial injustice). Stop using race as a reason to speak ignorance, and think about shit for a minute. ReaL Talk.

I'm black and my father was a lover of all music, so I grew listening to Latin music, R&B music, black Caribbean music, soul music. Latino's have beautiful music, dancing and culture. I think the main problem is somewhere Latino’s come here in this country loses their identity either want to be too black or too white at the same time rejecting blacks and not to forget the racism also. I dated this Rican chicks her fam’s didn’t like me because the color of my skin and I couldn’t understand that. Latino’s here in the USA should focus more in there beautiful music and flip it but then again white America aren’t ready for that Spanish shit.I love all music and culture. And then you have the inner war between lation’s who’s Dominican, who’s Puerto Rican, and who’s Mexican, etc? All that stupid separatist shit that’s also crippling blacks. We all need to unity and respect each other and maybe everyone be in a better position.

Watch out for Karina Pasian. Her fam is from the Dominican Republic. She's definitely the next big thing in R&B.

As for Prima J, Jessica can sing some R & B, you'll soon see.

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