SOHH SOULFUL

First!!!!!!!!!!

Beautiful Liar Video is Hot

All right Soulman, is this your Get Well Soon My Love card to Bey? I was just telling someone I'm pissed cause I actually like the damn song, even though I don't want to see her in promo mode for another 90 days for yet another single. Guess I'll have to hustle those feelings to the left...

She's going on vacation ? Finally!!

Soulman keep your Bey hatin' to yourself. I dig Shakira but B's thickness kills it. I like the video and enjoy watchin' two fine pieces in a video together.

I dont think I understand why ppl always have something negative to say about bey. Honestly, im a bigger shakira fan than i am beyonce and I thought she was more interesting in the video. Anyways they both hot and the girls too. Beyonce kinda cute trying to 'mouth' Jays lyrics...lol

Both videos are dope!

But this is some serious overkill on Bey's part. Damn enough is enough.

The girl can sang, she can dance, she is beautiful, she is sexy and she can act (a little) - chill on the "Yall need me right now b/c there is nobody else out there" - bring on the body bag b/c I wanna bury B'Day til 2010 at least!

Beyonce+Shakira= One sexy combination

Shakira matching Bey with talent?! GTFOH! People love to hate on that girl! I guess it's a sign of being good. Like Katt says, if you got 20 haters you need to be working on 40.

I like both vidoes and songs.

Thanks Soulman for this watered-down take on Beyawnce's 2 new COMMERCIALS.

Beautiful Liar is nothing more than an over-rated 3-minute Pepsi Commercial. It offers nothing by way of concept (Looking alike in certain scenes and mirroring one another is not a concept.) But she gave the MTV white audience just what they want to see. Two pretty light-skinned women of color, hardly dressed with phat asses gyrating their hips.

Upgrade U was whack! The track is bangin' and this is all you came up with? And I am tired of getting flashblacks (not a typo) when watching Bey. Artist that came to mind while watching this video...JLO, Vanessa Williams, JLO, Ciara (Like a Boy) and did I say..JLO?

If pretty is going to be Bey's strongest talent...then I'm ready for Ugly Betty to start making videos.

Tia says...

Shakira matching Bey with talent?! GTFOH! People love to hate on that girl! I guess it's a sign of being good. Like Katt says, if you got 20 haters you need to be working on 40.

I like both vidoes and songs.

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I rest my case. I think Beyonce gives her fans exactly what they want or expect from her. Nothing more...nothing less.

Page Black says...

Thanks Soulman for this watered-down take on Beyawnce's 2 new COMMERCIALS.

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FUCK OFF.

You consider something watered down because it's not as harsh as what you would write.

I thought both videos were tight. Not to hop on the B'wagon, you can't really deny that she has talent and beautiful. However, when is the B machine going to stop?

You consider something watered down because it's not as harsh as what you would write.

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Correction!

Soulman...you can and have gotten pretty "harsh" on here before.....just where other artists are concerned.

"Fade to Black" and "Career Over" are some of your own "harsh" quotes. Not mine.

And you're right..your take on this was not "harsh" nor does it need to be.

As a daily reader I am not looking for "harsh" comments. I am merely looking for your opinion and your critique.

That bukkake comment sure came out of left field. . . I would say I'd hit it but I wouldn't upgrade it to a perverted act like bukkake.

What I don't get about Beyonce and all this bragging of shooting 8 videos in two weeks is that she is kinda saying, I can sell y'all muthafuckas anything.

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I 100% agree. What's sad is I'll going to buy it. I actually liked both videos though.

You are such a hata. I don't think it was necessary for you to go out of your way to open ANOTHER thread JUST so you can say how much you DONT like Beyonce, which is basically what you did. You don't have to like everything she do, but don't hate.

I loved tha Upgrade U video! I don't really like tha song Beautiful Liar. Tha beat is a little off, and Shakira's voice is.....wrong. Otherwise the video was cute, how you couldn't tell who was who at one point.....

4 starters I'm hatin' because this computer is not allowing me 2 c the video.

Shakira is my girl "La Tortura" is my favorite song by her and in comparison 2 Bey, she's one of the ones (Jennifer Hud included) that can hold their own on a shared stage with her.

What's crazy is how the media (wendy williams, etc.) is sweating the "JayZ * Beyonce breakup) now, last Friday night I didn't see them @ the Nets game but they were there Tuesday night.
Let me tell u this,
they REALLY look like a couple in love. If they r faking it the joke is on me because they were giggling, whispering and coodling like cute couples do.

Anyway, I've digressed...
I can't wait 2 see the 2 videos

Some of you need to face it. Just because someone doesn't like Beyonce's latest work doesn't mean they haven't like her previous stuff. It also doesn't mean that they are hating on her. I don't even like everything my favorite artist have put out. I am just tired of all the "sistah, gurl" music. Nothing she releases is thought provoking or inspiring. The only thing inspiring to me is her drive, her work ethic and her ability to stay sane inspite of her success.

I'm not feeling the song or video with Shakira, but do admit is good eye candy for the fellas. I'm really lovin Bey's swagger in Upgrade. She was really cool as Jay-Z, But again I'm not crazy about the song.

I think Bey is headed for media burnout like J-Lo. She needs to fall back for a minute and allow us to miss her a little bit.

GOTTA LOVE IT.

Beyonce was looking very nice on 106 and park yesterday. I didn't see the upgrade u video. I would probably like the songs better than the 8 videos.

So let me get this straight, every Beyonce and Jigga video will have jay completely still while B wildly dances around him huh???? wow....real creative

I like Beautiful Liar, but I thought Upgrade U was BORING! The track is hot but the video is NOT! She claimed she paid for these videos out of her pocket......it shows! For the record, before anyone says I'm hating on Beyonce, I like Beyonce, but her bodyguard I mean her father Mathew Knowles is putting her on overkill! Give it a rest. Let us miss Beyonce for atleast a month. Mr. Knowles please take a page from A. Keys. By the way I always thought Shakira was sexier, again nothing against B, but La Tortura.....Shakira is the s**t!

dude, are you crazy? shakira on the same level as Beyonce? Shakira is nice, but the video could have done without her. B is Killin'em right now. Stop hatin!!!!!

Yo! B

You did the dayum thang with the Upgrade video, don't have time to watch the other one yet, but you tore down upgrade and did the dayum thang playin Hov. And she looked so fine on 106 and Park.

I like both videos and songs but Beyonce really needs to fall back... before she kills her career.

I can tell that even the mainstream media is getting tired of her becuase they're slowly begining to turn her. Just look at dreamgirls, the sprtsillustrated thingy, and the sudden rise of J. Hudson.

CHILL BEY PEOPLE ARE ALMOST OVER IT!!!!

hated both videos, all I can say is it's really time for Bey to take a damn break, you really can tell she paid for that Upgrade U video, the dance scene sucked and what was up with her in the damn trunk, Bey can do so much better is all I'm saying, and Beautiful Liar well all I can say is it will be played over and over on TRL, didn't like the whole dressing like each other idea, no creativity at all on either video, well looks like we'll be seeing Bey for a long long long time with 8 videos, lord help us all.

I have to say i agree with 4real and page black. Creativity is extinct and these videos put me to sleep. Songs seem to never match the videos these days. Bey is getn stranger by the minute, guess that Camel dk will do that to you.

Ya'll know Im diggin the new videos.
Beyonce is the shit.....

I do agree though, she needs to fallback, it seems like she has been going every since the release of Destiny Fulfilled! She going to tire people out...and this is coming from a TRUE FAN

Those videos arne't any wose then most of the R&b videos out today. Dance a little, do some beauty shots and there you go! I think by todays standards the video was hot. I would have like more from Upgrade U but it is what is. I will buy the anthology because the green light video looks hto and actually looks creative.

I have to agree with GO, its the same stuff everybody else putting out, truthfully it meets the standards of today's video, and you guy's created that avenue, if you wanted more creative videos, then you would have to reject the majority of the rap videos, because they are ALL a like!
I feel both videos are good, but that "Beautiful Liar" video was tight to me. Let me ask this question, who do you think out here is creating unique videos?

boyplease! says... I feel both videos are good, but that "Beautiful Liar" video was tight to me. Let me ask this question, who do you think out here is creating unique videos?
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ain't nobody out there today creating no unique videos, the days of Michael Jackson and Janet, Prince videos are gone, and Janets So Exicited video was the last video I saw that was different with that whole see through thing it had going on. Bey is a mega star she shouldn't be putting videos out like this, it's time for a long over due break period.

I have to disargee Janet's lastest videos are about the same concept, it looks like the last one from the Dimita Jo ablum, but if you think she your stuff is unique, then oh well

I didn't lie Upgrade u, B looks tight, but what really caught my eye was Beautiful Liar, both beautiful and talented. Too bad that...personal opinion...wo really stole my eye and ear was SHAKIRA-SHAKIRA. She's the hottest n the video, and whoever said her voice is wrong....go to a doctor and get ear replacements.

Get real. That Janet video sucked and wasn't creative at all. Plus... I think America has already seen enough of her. The X Ray thing was a seriously stupid idea.

When i saw th video...i was confuzed because I didn't know what was going on, because there was so many flashing and changing in Beautiful Liar. But after watching it again, i think tha shakira adds a rather more lively and latin feel to the song (and thats how its supposed to feel)..i heard the song with just Beyonce, and it was sooooo boring!...i think that Shakira helped the song out, and also in the video she was lookin HOT!..

OH GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY! WHAT WAS THAT?? Beutiful Liar just reminds us that Shakira is Sexy and Beyonce's was just struggling to keep up just like she did in Dreamgirls..this was a bad move on her part! I bought the destinys child DVD live from Atlanta and its awesome and that is what beyonce is..she belongs in a group...Shakira on the other hand is a sexpot, period! you cannot move like her, no one can...this was a mere reminder that Beyonce is a package put together by her father for our entertainment and it is getting a little old.

I think beautiful liar is kool. Shakira helped the song alot. Beyonce was just trying to copy her dance moves. N for those haters who say that SHAKIRA cant sing, go buy some Barney Cds n enjoy them. U know u cant compare beyonce to SHAKIRA> never!!!!!!!!!! (my opinion)

I have to agree with Chris. Shakira totally killed that song.

Y'all betta stop hatin!!!!!I think its about tym dat these 2 joined forces....I min...Dey ar bot HOT...hav incredible voices....n can MUVE...I think dis is da hottest vid Bey has eva dun n i dind see ne1 els on it apart 4rm Shakira.....WELL DUN LADIES...y'all r doin ur thin n repin......
The upgrad u vid is also off da huk....i luv da wai she mouths wat Jay is sayin...Dats HOT....n sh luks good....oh dat vid is so GANSTA....Luv it....B ROKS but i do admit dat its about tym sh took a lil break...dat wud b gud....espcialli 4 ha...sh rilli nids it or els she myt strt lusin it eg:Britney Spears n shit

dayum i must be the only dude to respond cause both Shakira and Beyonce was sexy as hell, but to me Beyonce was a more sexier and thicker, that may have been Shakira type of music but Beyonce killed it however the song still suck donkey balls IMO........

as far as upgrade you that shit knocks again Beyonce kills it the way they trasition into Jay part was ridiculous Beyonce is a dope ass entertainer and sexy as hell......what more do you need ???

Damn.
Beyonce is on overdrive. I like the the videos. I wasn't really feeling 'Beautiful Liar' but this video changes it for me. 'Upgrade U' is my jam has been since B Day came out but that video is a mix of Kelis, Gwen, and most definitely Amerie's '1 Thing'.

you people talk so much shit. the idea that some of you would actually suggest that shakira can sing better than beyonce is laughable. shakira might be sexier but the girl sounds like a dude w. strep throat

SORRY, I DONT LIKE YOU N IF THAT YOUR LITTLE AS SISTA TELL HER I DONT LIKE HER BCAZ SHE LIKE MY BABY DADDY D'WAYNE MICHAEL CARTET AKA LIL WAYNE BITCH BOTH OF YALL WHORES GGGOOOOIIINNN'

I would have rather seen Shakira and Christina Aguilera do something together. Beyonce is wack, but I can't hate because she is thirsty and gives her depth-lacking fanbase what they want.

She has star quality and talent, but no depth. Her music is superficial, but it sells. Today's Diana Ross... an idol in her own right as it relates to barrier breaking and success, but never a Patti or Aretha.

Beyonce is saturating the market, so that her name will sell her. But she will never come out and let her talent sell her. Put it like this, she creates her own buzz, releasing multiple singles and doing multiple projects. It keeps her name in the air. But real talent will sell itself without all the fluff... not saying don't have a little, but come on she is getting on my nerves now.

Mary's talent has always sold itself, as does Christina's now. And many other stars. They do their own thing.

Not bad, she needed another single, people were starting to commit ritual suicide everytime Irreplaceable came on. The Shakira video was a good look, love a sweaty latin. Quick question though, didn't Ciara just do the whole gender bender thing a few weeks ago?

I don't get what none of y'all talkin bout, everybody complainin about bein tired of beyonce and shit, you tellin me that all yall tired of beyonce and aint none of y'all tired of seein young jeezy or lil waynes ass or somethin, HATERS, maybe not all, but some of y'all is straight up HATERS, I'd rather look at B than these ugly niggas any day, and I don't even care bout videos, if the song is tight then I'll watch the video, it's just a video damn, ppl knew they was gone talk shit bout B before they even checked the videos out, I bet y'all was hopin for the vids to b bad so u could talk shit bout it, stop hatin on Beyonce

Can't front Beyonce is SEXY AS HELL! Dam that Hov is a lucky bsstrd, if his camel a** was not clocking he would be a ZERO believe that. BUT can't hate on Hov either he is foing the Dam thing- dam he rented out Roca wear for 204 million in cash HA HA. Whew Dam Dame it's a dam shame! Dame cut his own throat though f0n around with that f**g Cam run! Screemin HARLEM WORLD instead of the ROC! H AHA .
I better get my game up 204 million in cash Dam!

Put it like this the only reason she can make 8 videos on her budget is cause she is out in the public selling her music making videos and promoting your ownself. Am i right? The only way to be succesful is to work at it. Am I right? The only way to break records is to make sure your breaking them, and put your heart and soul in it. This woman besides a Sexy A** Female shes an Empire her gross net worth is damn near 300 million. Why she is putting it down in the music industry. Bump the fact that the jennifer hudson thing thats nothing Media is always stirring up things. understandable but hey 10 grammys being nominated for and oscar and emmy and billboard awards and bet awards and mtv awards and vh1 awards and etc... she dominating. So what Jennifer Won Oscar and Emmy. I doubt that she is doing her video thing cause of that. And plus reason she is doing her re-release is because the label is doing somethings like not going to do this and that so she had to upgrade herself to make the label heads keep her signed even though if she wanted to she could sign herself to her own label she is working and this is her legal grind So back off LOL but yeah give her mad Probs instead of hating and downing her she a INDEPENDENT Woman....

I like the video beautiful liar. Shakira and Beyonce are both great singers and beautiful strong woman. But when it comes to the belly dancing and the hip shaking Shakira got that, hands down. But B looked good in the video, she did her thang. And upgrade u was ok. The song was hot but the video was to "regular" it did not catch my interest at all. But no matter what the girl got talent, there's no denying that. She's just going through a ruff patch where she has been upstaged with the last 2 women that she appear with, (jennifer, shakira) no biggy. Just a bump in the road. Maybe a vacation is what she needs. We need some time to miss her, although she did leave us with 6 more videos to go so it will be a while until we can miss her....

Well I can see that Beyonce pissed off someone today. Damn why the writer be dissing Bey like that, she's just doing what Micheal did b4 the race-change. The video with Shakira "Beautiful Liar" only need me to be my fantasy manage-a-trois. "Upgrade U" is fire and Jigga killed it....again. Love Beyonce keep shaking that ass. It's nice

First of all, I love Beyonce and I am glad that she has all of you all yapping and running of at the mouth about her whether good or bad, she catches and keeps your attention. Second, I love Jennifer Hudson also but it is not right for you guys to compare Beyonce to Jennifer as if they are both on the same level. They are not and the truth is, Beyonce is on top with the people who came out when she did and Jennifer is on top with the people she came out with. They are both very talented women and deserve praise in their own way. So please stop trying to turn them against one another.

As a Jay fan and B fan I'm and a fan of being on top! I'm really starting to get it!

If I get too the top and stay on top for a year or two or three (or like Jay for 6 summers) people are going to start hating on me! If I'm the hottest chick in the game for the last 5 years people are going to start calling for my head!

Hell Jordan didn't MAKE EVERY LAST SECOND SHOT! Tiger doesn't win every match he plays!

And every now and than Jay and B are going too make music that people are not going to like!

THE HATE IS TOO STRONG!

RESPECT THE TOP DAWGS AND REACH FOR YOU OWN MOUNTAINS!

BIG UP JAY BIG UP B!!! I'M THE TOP ON MY LEVEL SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT HATE THOSE TWO ARE GOING THRU!

THE GOD!

She has disappointed me with the ENTIRE B'DAY era. I believe she is the calliber of artist that does not need to over-do anything. She doesn't have to jirate across the stage or bless the cover of Sports Illustrated. I believe she is classy and above all that childish nonsense. But the more time goes by, Beyonce is showing me that she is just like the other female artists out there- except she is more popular and more wealthy. There are many beautiful singers out there, just as beautiful as Bey. Many singers out there that can sing as well or better than Bey. She has the edge because she has an excellent combination of beauty, acting, dancing, singing, modeling, fashion design, poise, and grace. Right now she is not amazing. Where did the amazing Beyonce go?

Beautiful Liar, that Shakira/Beyonce video was boring. I like to see people dancing, but that video was for men's eyes, not for me. I like Shakira. I like Beyonce. Where was the creativity here? I am sitting here waiting to be astonished...and still waiting. Honestly Shakira could have done that song without Bey, or Bey should have done that song without Shakira. I mean, I didn't even understand what the whole song/video was about. I'm like, ok who is the beautiful liar, and where are the other people in the video? It was strange to me. Save your money on videos Beyonce, please.
Upgrade U is my joint right there! I love that song! So when the video came on, I was like YEAH this my song right here! And that whole video was a buncha bull sh!t. Sorry Beyonce fans (I'm not hating) but that video was wack. That video was a combination of Kelis, JLo, Ashanti, Mary J Blige, and Ciara at the end. It was like Beyonce wasn't in her own video, like she was pretending to be other folk - now what kinda sh!t is that?. I said, now what idiot came up with this video concept. Beyonce needs a song/video advisor, cause whoever told her that was hot LIED to her. People shouldn't lie to you just cuz you got a big bank account. I bet they all told her it was gonna be # 1 on 106 and Park and she's gonna be nominated for Music Video Awards. They lied to you Bey!!! They let you just waste your money like that. That's not right.
Anyways. I am a young woman. I am a young black woman and I need somebody to look up to. Beyonce is NOT it. She used to be it, but when her head got too big for her body, I had to let her go. I am no longer a fan.

Waiting on Alicia Keys album to drop this summer...

Enough said.

I liked Upgrade U video. I liked the begining of the dancing.and the singing in beautiful liar was skillful.I like listenig to the songs better than watvhing the videos.

That was the positive time for the negative.Video is far from bullshit.HOWEVER I don't get why she gotta be sexy to do a video all the time.I don't think she trying to look like a ho.In beautiful liar there was the same problem.She was expressing her being a woman.But men want sex.They ain't gonna ignore her dance rutines.It gets on my nerves to see men saying how sexy she is BEFORE mentioning her talent. And another thing women sometimes think beyonce is sexy.Girls who are 15 might be giving lapdances and shit.That is waht's happening in the black community.Go to CONCRETE LOOP.COM and find WTF files.There's a picture of a 12 year old boy getting a lapdance by a teenage girl.

Here is the thing;there are female vocalist out there who you want to hear from and you turn on the radio hoping to hear from them. Then there is B she is like propaganda; you don't know if you even want to listen cause you don't have a choice, turn on the tv she's there turn on the radio and she's there. If you didn't like a song give it a day and you know all the words cause she is everywhere. 8 videos just goes to prove that. every song on that cd is a video and on the radio i don't need to purchase it and i damn sure don't need a whatever else she resaling.

Too Much of a good thing?

I agree. Im much more interested in Shakira than Beyonce'. Not to knock her but...Im sicka lookig at her. Damn, she been on every countdown, magazine cover and CD in the world. Take a break and kick back Bey. Another thing is I feel like Shakira has a tad bit more personality than Beyonce' you know, she's more than a pretty face, there's depth to her.

I'm kinda tired of seeing Beyonce everywhere.I have mad respect for the lady(if you've seen my other posts). Many folks say :"Well you ain't tired of seeing them other artists!" Well that's becuz other artists ain't all over the place on radios,T.V. and basicaly just damn near chasing you! It's nice to see she's that famous. But I've seen her on E!,MTV,BET.
And I've heard her songs three times on 1 radio station.Beyonce is also on advertisements too.And then there was this girl 3 or 4 years old who knew babyboy lyrics. Beyonce's on Disney channel too?WTF.But in conclusion the girl is doing the damn thing!

hov the truth!!!! beyonce & shakira can get 2gether!!!!!holla

All her videos are alike. If you mute the sound, you could match any of her video to any of her song. The little dress, the lying down in weird material crawling and wining, the hip showing.

Girl, you say you're so so so talented. Show us something else.

beyonce is nowhere NEAR shakiras level, in any means.... shakira has a stronger voice, better dance moves, prettier face, tighter figure, more humble personality, etc. etc..... shakira only did this duet cause beyonce begged her and shaki is too sweet to say 'no'

do u no what i think u blind or need to go back into rehab. how could u dare say that about beyonce. she is the best solo artist of all time i mean without beyonce music would have no passion or life.i love beyonce i am her biggest fan ive loved her ever since she first came out when she was 16.the top 2 artists are beyonce and then it goes shakira. i mean i DO love shakira its just that i thought you would of noticed that beyonce has got the prettiest face, figure and voice so i think i might have to get you some glasses 4 christmas

the beautiful liar video was the stuff it is by far the best ever video i have ever saw and trust me i have saw alot of videos . and 4 all the people who think that beyonce was copying shakira fuck yall theyre both the same except maybe beyonce is better

i like both shakira n beyonce although i am biased for bey as i aleways loved destinys child n her solo work but i agree she should take a break n enjoy life also coz i know if i had her money id live life to the full d video is still sick tho keep up d good work bey n shakira fuck d hataz ur reppin 4 d girlz nuff love xxx

Love B, but she needs to not be all over the place. It only makes me want to hear other artists.

shakira is hot, be is hot too but shakira looks all nice and innocent, but i bet she is a freak in bed, mamacita!