I was watching "Soul Train Classics" on that weird new CW network this past Saturday.
It was The Time's first ride on the hippest trip in America and Morris Day was slick, personified. Research The Time here.
As Don Cornielius interviewed the band I noticed that there was very little hysteria. Not because "Get It Off" didn't please the crowd but because the Time, in all their flambouyant glory, were a cool ass set of muthafuckas. When Don asked who were the producers on their album, Morris said "self contained," meaning there was no need for the Johnta Austins, the Sean Garretts or Darkchilds of the day.
I said all that to say, remember when you watched "Soul Train" on Saturday mornings. Remember when it was a tradition to do so, just as it was weekend chores, or early Saturday morning haircuts.
The Time being on the show and performing their own original music reminded me of something my boss pointed out a couple weeks ago. He noted that in the Grammy nominations that their were no R&B groups/bands nominated for Best Duo or Group. All the nominees were collaborations between solo artists. Is the R&B band/group moot? Was Destiny's Child the last great one or will Danity Kane, One Chance, Pretty Ricky and 2 Much all of a sudden rise to the occassion and claim their lane?
Did anyone notice that the video for "Listen" from the Dreamgirls soundtrack was re-shot? Peeps are campaigning. Cleaning up that first video and simplifying Beyonce's look just adds fuel to the 'Oscar for Best Original Song buzz.'
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Hi everyone...
honestly, there are very few talented groups in existence anymore. Or should I say in the public eye anymore. Mint Condition is probably the only group I can think of that is self-contained and will rock any show you put them on. I'm from Bmore and there are quite a few local bands that are straight fire on any live show performance. Prince's bands will always be tight. But all of this "pretty ricky" stuff, thats not a real band. neither is danity kane. all of the dancing and looking good is fine for the eye, but at the end of the day, I want to listen to good music. Plain & simple. I go to the AFRAM here in bmore every year just to enjoy the live bands. thats wassup.
I've been thinking about this topic lately now that BETJ is showing a lot of the "old school" (80s and 90s) groups. I miss the groups from back in the day. They don't fit in with today's music where vanity is more important than vocal ability. Most groups were made up of 3 - 5 singers who could all SANG individually. Then came Bell Biv Devoe and Guy. They were groups with only one singer. Even in New Edition there were always at least 2 good singers in the group. Anyway BBD was more known for their swagger than their voices. But even for them it only lasted a second.
I miss the singing groups from back in the day:
Intro
Brownstone
SWV
Troop
112
Boyz II Men
Take 6
EnVogue
Tony Toni Tone
I won't even talk about groups from the 70s & 80s.
I wish the industry would allow them to come back as singers and not worry about how well they dance or their "street credibility"
How did I forget:
Rude Boys
Force MCs
LeVert
Full Force
The Jets
DeBarge
Damn, there were so many and now their are virtually none. People talkin about hip hop is dead. R&B is for damn sure dead and I think hip hop may have killed it.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS to the SOULFUL Family! Now let's do the Oak Tree, "Ohwee-Ohwee O"
Posted by: Bird at December 26, 2006 10:52 AM
Bird you forgot about:
Mint Condition
Shai
Guy
Only here to say happy holidays to everyone in NC with the family for the rest of the week so I won't be on here till next week.
Umm actually there are two versions of the "Listen" video. This one was shot way before the other one which was released first. So no, it wasn't done for the Oscars but of course you'll believe what you want.
Posted by: le.coccobeans at December 26, 2006 11:12 AM
Aight Ms. Cocco happy Hoildays to you and the Family.
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fk dat BBD was the sht
greatest band ever
even though Mike and Ron didn't do sht
I used to miss Jodeci
till I saw a recent pic of K-CI
life shtted on him hard!
shopping- be back later...I love Canada!!! Peace to all-
Saw Dreamgirls last night- I personally think Listen was specifically put in there to throw a bone to Beyonce cause Jennifer KILLED "And I am Telling You", as well as "I am Changing" in the second act. It didn't make sense to cut Lorell's song in favor of "Listen", because it didn't add anything to the story.
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i dont think DC will b the last great R&B group i think cherish is in the running and so is DK but i mean we'll have to see who stands up and takes he throne but yeah i mean Dreamgirls was an Awesome movie and in the theatre i was at ppl were clapping riht after jennifer sang and i ean beyonce did a good job singing listen like i felt the words to the song at tht point but idk i doubt she'll win the oscar for best original song bcuz there are some country singers who r also said to b up for the running ad personally i think tht their songs r better than listen but thts my opinion and i think tht from what i saw jennifer will get her ocar and beyonce has a chance but a very small chance and anika noni rose ii thougt she should b nominated bcuz she did a fantastic job she held her own against those two even though all the buzz was surrounding them but we'll see what happens at the oscars
I don't know!
Um, HELLO!! REAL BANDS!! Bands that could read, write and play music. You youngstas of the 90's sleeping on groups like:
S.O.S. Band
Skyy
Atlantic Starr
Midnight Star
Starpoint
The System
The Deele
Hall & Oats
Chapter 8
HELL, Ready For The World!!!!
Go ask ya mamas, uncles and aunties and REGCONIZE!!
Posted by: Lis at December 26, 2006 12:45 PM
You might have just went over half the heads on here with that powerful list right there, cuase I know half the ones Bird named went over these youngin's heads, but on the real yes that is some true artist and music makers right there.
And the Oscar goes to....
'Never Gonna Break my Faith' by Aretha Franklin and Mary J Blige.
Beyonce is waiting her breath, she ain't gonna win for that song, although I can't comment on her acting until I the see the movie. But there are better songs.
Posted by: Bird at December 26, 2006 10:52 AM
Bird you forgot about:
Mint Condition
Shai
Guy
Posted by: OL' PLAYA at December 26, 2006 11:02 AM
Yes you are right. I meant to add Shai to my second post. I think of Mint Condition as a band more than a group. Stokely is really the only one that sings. Now if you want to get me naming great bands we'll be here all day. Can't give props to Guy because Aaron Hall was the only good singer in the group. They are in the Jodeci category. Jodeci had the singing brothers and the eye candy, I mean production brothers.
Um, HELLO!! REAL BANDS!! Bands that could read, write and play music. You youngstas of the 90's sleeping on groups like:
S.O.S. Band
Skyy
Atlantic Starr
Midnight Star
Starpoint
The System
The Deele
Hall & Oats
Chapter 8
HELL, Ready For The World!!!!
Go ask ya mamas, uncles and aunties and REGCONIZE!!
Posted by: Lis at December 26, 2006 12:45 PM
Hey I told yall I didn't want to go back too far, because we would be here all day.
Back in the day groups and bands ruled, ie, Cool & the Gang, Earth, Wind and Fire, etc.
I'm telling you need some of that good harmonizing back man.
Fuck yall muthafuckas this shit sucks dicks, and is gay like two fuckin' fags kissin' on brokeback mountain.
Um, HELLO!! REAL BANDS!! Bands that could read, write and play music. You youngstas of the 90's sleeping on groups like:
S.O.S. Band
Skyy
Atlantic Starr
Midnight Star
Starpoint
The System
The Deele
Hall & Oats
Chapter 8
HELL, Ready For The World!!!!
Go ask ya mamas, uncles and aunties and REGCONIZE!!
Posted by: Lis at December 26, 2006 12:45 PM
CO-SIGN!!! ALEXANDER O'NEAL,CHERELLE,GAP BAND,JOE PUBLIC (where are they?).....I MISS HEARING LIVE MUSIC.
wow i think it is really interesting that out of all the great R&B groups that were around in the 90's, there are really none still around today. I have however peeped a few up and coming male R&B groups that could hopefully bring some excitement to the music world. check em out...
S.O.L.I.D-www.myspace.com/soundsofloveindevotion
The Show-www.myspace.com/theshowmusic
Kazual-www.myspace.com/kazual1
I was thinking the same thing. Music is not what it was that's why I listen to old school 2 R&B. I don't think DC want be a supergroup like the supremes bcos they don't have lasting songs. but DG's was good everyone did good for their respective roles.
I was thinking the same thing. Music is not what it was that's why I listen to old school 2 R&B. I don't think DC want be a supergroup like the supremes bcos they don't have lasting songs. but DG's was good everyone did good for their respective roles.
Hey bird didn't you forget DruHill?
Hey bird didn't you forget DruHill?
Posted by: bored@school at December 26, 2006 4:21 PM
Yup. They were on point. Next was as well in my opinion.
Like I said, there were too many to count. How did we get to this point?
Listen is the only song that was nod for BCCAA (sp?) SAT and the Gloden Globe so it is a lock to say that song is a winner.
no there are some songs tht r soo much better than tht one like tht mary j and aretha song just throws listen in the garbage and i mean those country songs tey touch the heart so idk but i mean i hope she wins but i doubt it
Destiny's Child was not a great group. Why must Beyonce have to come up in every blog.
Music today sucks. It's all about the music and artist pre the new millenium.
and also tht mary j and aretha song have also been nominated for the qolden globe so whoever wins tht will probably win the oscar
Until one or more members of any group can play a live instrument then I won't consider them a band. I'm an 80s baby, but my parents weren't, so you know that means I listened to everything, lol. As far as the girl groups are concerned DC was good, but they didn't make me think. TLC was the last. All these artists are talented, they just don't showcase like they used to back in the day.
I loved DreamGirls and Beyonce's listen. I think she needed it to balance off J. Hud, I just think "Listen" came about 15 minutes too early, lol.
Sohh is dead. R.I.P.
I feel you on that old school flavor vanishing like if it never meant anything. We have to bring it back some how cause that's the real music right there. Keep me up to date on thangs cause i am DJ and im working on bringing that flavor back myself, It is not dead yet cause people like me and you are keeping it alive...That duud Bass!
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