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Bastards Of The Party; A History of Bloods and Crips

Posted on February 27, 2007 12:50 AM

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I know that two blogs about documentaries in a 7-day period might be a little heavy for some of you, but in the wider scope of things this is way more important than any other topic I could have chosen to write about today. With the way ignorance is currently plaguing hip hop, which is a culture that once prided itself on the fundamentals of knowledge, it can’t hurt to shed some light on something that has the potential to spread a little bit of positive growth.

Up to this point, I’m fairly sure that not too many of you are familiar with the name Cle “Bone” Sloan, although I’m sure quite a few of you caught him in Antoine Fuqua’s Training Day, where he plays one of the Bloods who refuses to do Alonzo’s (Denzel Washington) dirty work in one of the film’s final scenes. But with Bastards Of The Party, Sloan- with the help of Fuqua, who serves as producer - is making a name for himself as a director and narrator by presenting us with one of the most in-depth, personal, and historically rich accounts of gang culture that has ever hit the screen.

Sloan, who was an Athens Park Blood himself, set out to learn the history behind the culture of violence that he had adopted as his own and in doing so, decided to lay out his findings on film. For a first-time director, Cle Sloan does an incredible job of laying out a decade-by decade timeline of how the Bloods and Crips came to be what they are today. While the history is far too vast to capture every incident that ever took place, Cle does an amazing job of prioritizing, and laying out some of the major events that played a role in the evolution- or de-evolution -of Los Angeles gangs. He also provides some harrowing interviews from past and present-day Bloods and Crips, as well as some amazing archival footage.

But one of the main points of the film- and the theory from which Sloan derived the documentary’s title -is that the birth of the Bloods and Crips was a direct result of the disbanding of the Black Panther Party. And as far-fetched of an idea as this might sound to some of you, the evidence overwhelmingly supports this claim. (And although the film doesn't cover it at all, the same theory applies to modern-day gangs in Chicago.)

With hip hop idolizing gang lifestyle the way that it does- especially West Coast hip hop -I can’t stress how important this film is for people to watch, especially since a good portion of dudes out there bangin’ probably don’t know shit about the history of the sets they bang. There’s no way that my words could possibly do this film the justice that it deserves; Bastards is easily one of the most mesmerizing, frightening and eye-opening documentaries I’ve ever seen; yet one can’t help but feel sad that things have gone this far and gotten this out-of-control. If there will ever be a piece of media that’s accessible enough to make it painfully clear that gangbanging is, in its purest essence, total bullshit, than this is it.

I know the old adage that “Knowledge is Power” is a little cliched, so look at it this way: the less you know, the easier it is for people with knowledge to take advantage of you. Being apathetic to the point that you don’t know shit about your history, your current events or your future is dangerous, but it’s scary how the majority of the youth today is ignoring that fact.

Bastards Of The Party airs Wednesday night on HBO. You’ll have to check your local listings for exact times, but if there’s one thing you watch on cable this year, I would highly recommend making this a priority. For any of you that have had the chance to watch this since its debut on February 6th, let me know your thoughts on it.

In the meantime, here’s a trailer for the film:

Posted by SOHH Leftist

Comments

  • Nasty_Que still tippin' says...
  • This blog sucks. What king of fcking essay is this. You suck like my history teacher dude. Piss off. You ain't reping the west you lame excuse of a human being.

  • February 27, 2007 4:22 AM
  • wizzlejizzle says...
  • How is this not repping the west, when majority of the artists in the mainstream westcoast scene rep some type of affilation with gangs? The bay is the only spot I really don't hear too much gangsta spit, and I could be wrong on that, but my exposure might not be the same as some who hail out the region.

  • February 27, 2007 6:11 AM
  • Bayan says...
  • The bay is the only spot I really don't hear too much gangsta spit, and I could be wrong on that, but my exposure might not be the same as some who hail out the region.

    Posted by: wizzlejizzle at February 27, 2007 6:11 AM

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    it makes sense, i guess there's a connection between the Bay not being on a traditional West Coast gangsta tip and the fact that it gave birth to hyphy culture

  • February 27, 2007 7:30 AM
  • its me bitches says...
  • REAL TALK what is that shit about.. who in the fuck hoodwinked thousands of black males to murder eachother over colors and nieghborhoods. sombody was really pullin wools over they eyes... that shit couldent have happend in new york on any kind of large scale. were to smart for that

  • February 27, 2007 8:08 AM
  • SOHH EIGHTY says...
  • This blog sucks. What king of fcking essay is this. You suck like my history teacher dude. Piss off. You ain't reping the west you lame excuse of a human being.
    Posted by: Nasty_Que still tippin' at February 27, 2007 4:22 AM
    -------------------------------------------

    It's all good. I didn't write it for mentally challenged 12-year olds.

    The Chris Brown blog you're looking for is down the hall and to the right.

    -80

  • February 27, 2007 9:13 AM
  • NYC 4 LIFE says...
  • This is the type of programs that our youth should watch. Then you will see how the government puts us against each other. It shows how the Blood and Crip rivalry actually started and how the FBI play a major role in it.

    All you "Gangbanger" or what ever you are calling yourselves now a days should watch it. Because right now if you are a Blood you don't even know why you hate Crips.

    The government wants you to continue this trend.

  • February 27, 2007 9:13 AM
  • muvaphknmega says...
  • Yeah I watched this doc about 2 weeks ago. I gotta say it was definitely worth the watch. I mean gangs originally took form to protect blacks from whites and now it ends up like this. Any kat that bangs should watch maybe you'll learn something and look for another way to express yourself besides putting a bullet in another black person.

  • February 27, 2007 9:24 AM
  • c b w says...
  • I would highly recommend this film to anyone. No matter the age or race. This dude put together an intelligent piece of work so hopefully some young cats can see both sides of gangbanging from one of their own.

  • February 27, 2007 9:27 AM
  • WEST COAST IMPERIAL says...
  • The responses to this blog show, just how little people really know about the gangbangin' culture they've recently adopted. The same people dissin' this blog, are the same ignorant people that think they are real "gang bangers". Im straight from Long Beach CAli. If you got put on a gang, after the truce (in 92'), you a Pussy. Let me say that again...If you got put on a gang after 92', u a Pussy!! Real niggas been bangin' since the 80's. Yall New niggas, Bathiing Ape Shoe niggas....Go to school. Gang BAngin is Done!! You Hear dat New York?! Ya Heard Dirty South?! It's over! Get a life, and quit trying to do what the West Coast did 20 years ago. Yall gone be where we at now. Making documentaries about the shit in 2020.

    Oh yeah, The Next to blow in 2007...

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  • February 27, 2007 9:43 AM
  • Leck says...
  • This movie is a must see. Especially for all you fake ass wannabe gang banging ass niggas that decided to rock a flag in the last 3 years cause Jim Jones and The Game made it popular!!

    Trust, that gang shit is WACK and this movie will show you just how wack it is in REAL LIFE.

  • February 27, 2007 10:27 AM
  • 412 Rollin 50 B^lood says...
  • fuCK all CKrip niggas.... Thoose faggots step on a Bloods shoe and we been heating they crab ass up every since.... SUUUUEEEEEWWWWOOOOOO to Da BLOOD gang....BE A CR.I.P. KILL A CR.I.P. watch my favorite color Drip......

  • February 27, 2007 10:34 AM
  • DEQUES(pronouncedDEXX!) says...
  • watching Bone in an earlier interview where he said that if he knew the killer of his friend twin he'll "work him" if he's his age to the person who tearfully said he wouldn't do anything if he saw him now was deep and it wasn't easy i'm sure for him to say that whether you agree or not that man is developing probably to a great leader of youth who can't relate to the textbook way of detering kids from gangs.seing how they did th..i mean US is sobering cointelpro did the same thing here in chicago with the fake letters and threats to and from the Black Panthers and the Black P. Stones who later became the EL Rukns (which is arabic for blackstone)but seeing that it was a wide spread conspiracy to take down an organization helping our ppl woke me up. some of those kids didn't even know the basic history of their gang okay if u didn't know the whole history but they didn't know the basic shit.i had afriend from compton and we used to kick it and talk about our cities and i was surprised how much we were alike the media had me thinking that everybody in compton is ignorant and only live and die for their gang and nothin' else but this dude was hardcore did time got a rep but was turning his life around and the feds fucked with about everything he did like sell clothes ouuta his trunk come on now the FEDS!! and i met alotta other good brothers my guy told me that most rappers from California are backpackers but it's harder for them to get on they from compton and watts but not rapping about gangsta shit!! they had no chance in hell of getting signed to a major so they either switch up their flow or stay underground so that music a lotta us complain about and criticze (Me Too) and some praise as keeping it real you can hate and thank the white man.

  • February 27, 2007 10:34 AM
  • S.P. SINATRA says...
  • Wow....I can truly see why so many young blk men are dead and dieing........This movie is a must see for all....The brother did an excellent job of capturing the essence of gang banging.....it should be a madatory intiation veiwing for all would be gang bangers.if any so called "G" or "Thug".....hate on this movie....or does not even watch it......it simply shows that these dudes are not real,not honest,and not educated on the shit they participate in ...which is a dammm shame............each one teach one.

  • February 27, 2007 10:42 AM
  • lano says...
  • I seen this peice as a matter of fact I tivoed it.I mean it was a wvery well put together doc he went all the way back to like the 6os and its crazy how it came to us killing one another.He also talked about how it really went down hill when they took all the jobs and ship them elsewhere.He spoke on how the police were kind of mad at the two gangs getting along and took one of the crips car and did a drive by on the bloods you see how they try and keep us divided.Man this is a very alert blog thanks bro.

  • February 27, 2007 11:07 AM
  • AD says...
  • Listen fuck the bullshit! This is one of the best documentries I have ever seen. The piece is moving because it just shows the ignorance that has ran rapid in our communtiy. If your from the coast bruh you will really be floored by this film straight up!. And not once has any of these so called real life G's ever try to take a stand an try to eally help put a hault to it. Instead the encourage an promote the shit (ie Game & Snoop). Its wild because we really ask how or why about shit! Especially me being from the Coast, gangbanging all I know. Not once did I ever wonder how this all came about.

  • February 27, 2007 11:30 AM
  • illphil says...
  • The documentary is incredible.

    Not sure why cats are hating that you wrote on it.

    Let them stay stuck on stupid.

    If you have HBO on Demand, it's in there. And it's a must see.

  • February 27, 2007 11:32 AM
  • MrMe3zUp!!! says...
  • Posted by: WEST COAST IMPERIAL at February 27, 2007 9:43 AM

    ^^^ 1st off nigga Chitown was bangin just as long as Cali if not longer an places like Lil Rock, StL, an Kansas City been bangin since the 80s so dont act like Cali started it. Also anybody who joined a gang after 92 probably joined bcuz they live (are trapped) on gang infested blocks not bcuz they wanna be down but bcuz thats all they see in their community so their brought up like that.
    Regardless good post Eighty an i was surprised to hear in that documentary that the 1st gang in Cali was the Spook Hunters so technically it was white folks who started gangbangin. Also Geronimo Pratt an Bunchee were/are 2 of the realest gz ever bcuz they gave back to their hood not destroy it an thats gangsta

  • February 27, 2007 11:33 AM
  • PeezyDaDroMan says...
  • and i met alotta other good brothers my guy told me that most rappers from California are backpackers but it's harder for them to get on they from compton and watts but not rapping about gangsta shit!!


    ^^^^^^^^^
    Its really real. thats how it is........without getting too in depth, I have countless homies who got they head busted over this gangbangin shit, I've been shot at over my AFFILIATIONS, and I dont even bang. anybody from any hood in LA knows what thats like. The gangs didnt start to be how they are now. All us young niggas went crazy once we got bored in the hood. Bad things can happen when black kids get bored. Its not as bad as before, but theres a new generation(14-17) to bring the ignorance back. Most the rappers pushing this bangin shit now either didnt even bang like that in the past and use their "homies" to look gangsta, or arent even from LA.Niggas gangbang all over the country now, its a true epidemic of ignorance. C bone is a real nigga givin niggas real talk. i seen the documentary, and that niggas openin his pockets and letting them jewels fall.

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  • February 27, 2007 11:33 AM
  • PeezyDaDroMan says...
  • Also anybody who joined a gang after 92 probably joined bcuz they live (are trapped) on gang infested blocks not bcuz they wanna be down but bcuz thats all they see in their community so their brought up like that.

    Posted by: MrMe3zUp!!! at February 27, 2007 11:33 AM


    ^^^^^^
    thats real talk. by the age of 9 or 10, we walkin around sayin "blood", and intentionally sagging(in my hood). Lookin back, we was some bad ass kids, fighting and shit and starting our own little cliques....its really stupid though. Kids shouldnt emulate the stupidity, whether its down the street or on TV.

  • February 27, 2007 11:38 AM
  • MrMe3zUp!!! says...
  • I bet gay ass K.ola Bear is gonna come on here talkin that internet-crip shit like the wanksta he was bred to be an say im wrong about what i said an he'll take offense to the Chitown comment so if you cowardly hearted lions got somethin to retort try an do it before 3pm bcuz time is money an yall niggas got allday
    Im out here niggas

  • February 27, 2007 11:38 AM
  • PeezyDaDroMan says...
  • and i met alotta other good brothers my guy told me that most rappers from California are backpackers but it's harder for them to get on they from compton and watts but not rapping about gangsta shit!!


    ^^^^^^^^^
    Its really real. thats how it is........without getting too in depth, I have countless homies who got they head busted over this gangbangin shit, I've been shot at over my AFFILIATIONS, and I dont even bang. anybody from any hood in LA knows what thats like. The gangs didnt start to be how they are now. All us young niggas went crazy once we got bored in the hood. Bad things can happen when black kids get bored. Its not as bad as before, but theres a new generation(14-17) to bring the ignorance back. Most the rappers pushing this bangin shit now either didnt even bang like that in the past and use their "homies" to look gangsta, or arent even from LA.Niggas gangbang all over the country now, its a true epidemic of ignorance. C bone is a real nigga givin niggas real talk. i seen the documentary, and that niggas openin his pockets and letting them jewels fall.

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  • February 27, 2007 11:39 AM
  • Mac says...
  • fuCK all CKrip niggas.... Thoose faggots step on a Bloods shoe and we been heating they crab ass up every since.... SUUUUEEEEEWWWWOOOOOO to Da BLOOD gang....BE A CR.I.P. KILL A CR.I.P. watch my favorite color Drip......

    Posted by: 412 Rollin 50 B^lood at February 27, 2007 10:34 AM


    This is the dumbest shit I ever heard. I'm old school fella, I came up in the PJs with the grimeez. I ain't had no computer when I was a youngsta. All the G's on my block ain't have no computer and didn't read no entertainment blogs. Don't spit gang shit on here, gangbangers ain't on the internet. Get a job! You Bastard! Bang out that 9 to 5 and be your own man so you can get a woman. Right now, you a follower walking in the Grim Reapers footsteps. I'm sure you get there soon enough. Genocide means you killing your own people. Black people are probably better off, I think we need to separate the thugs from the decent black people so the thugs can exterminate themselves and real black people can get the respect they deserve in this world.

  • February 27, 2007 11:40 AM
  • K BANGER.COM says...
  • GOD HELP US ALL.

  • February 27, 2007 11:56 AM
  • fuckin baby says...
  • bullshit im from where the black panthers started and we dont gangbang out (in the bay)

  • February 27, 2007 12:11 PM
  • M.FREEMZ.ILLA says...
  • EXCELLENT BLOG EIGHTY.. THIS IS REALLY ON POINT.. THIS DOCUMENTRY IS RAW.. I DUNNO IF YALL HAVE SEEN "WHY WE BANG" OR "REP YO SET" WHICH ARE ALSO PRETTY TIGHT.. TO THE AZZHOLE AT THE TOP WHO SAID THIS AINT REPPIN THE WEST- FUC OUTTA HERE! BANGIN IS A TRUE REPRESENTATION OF THE WEST AND MIDWEST.. ITS SAD TO SAY BUT NIGGAZ IS STILL BANGIN HERE IN SEATTLE- NIGGAZ IS ON $$, BUT YOUNG NIGGAZ'LL A STILL HEAT U UP.. ITZ FULLA GDz BLOODS AND CRIPS.. BUT NIGGAZ BANG HOOD AND THE YOUNG GEEZ HAVE NO GUIDANCE SO IT'LL NEVER END!! KINDA SAD, BUTTA ITS A WAY OF LIFE AND WONT STOP..

  • February 27, 2007 12:12 PM
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  • February 27, 2007 12:19 PM
  • Feldz says...
  • THIS DOCUMENTRY IS A MUST C!! i JUST WISH AND HOLE WHITE PEOPLE WILL C THIS AND ACTUALLY C WHAT THIS BULLSHIT ASS GOVERNMENT IS DOIN 2 US!!! THIS IS JUST 2K GENERATION SLAVERY!!!! TRUE STORY!! LIKE IF U WATCH THA DOC U WILL C THAT LIKE 7-10 FEDERAL PRISON WAS BUILT BETWEEN THE EARLY 80'S THRU THA LATE 90'S WAITIN 2 PUT U AND ME N THERE!!! THEY TAKE JOBS FROM R COMMUNITY SEND THEM 2 INDIA OR WHERE EVER WHILE WE STRUGGLE 2 MAKE ENDS MEAT!! SO WHAT DO WE DO WE DO!! WE GET THA DRUGS FROM R GOVERNMENT AND SELL THEM 2 ARE ONCE TIGHT KNIT COMMUNITY OR USE THE GUNS THAT AMERICA GIVES US AND TAKE SHIT FROM THEM OR DESTORY SHIT 2 GET SHIT 4 US 7 R FAMILY!!! ITS LIKE A FUCKIN JUNGLE OUT HERE!!!! IM JIVE SCARED 2 C WHAT HAPPENS N THA FUTURE BC IT GETS WORSE AND WORSE!!! LIKE 4 INSTANCE THE DUMB MUTHAFUCKA WHO POSTED THAT FUCK BLOOD SHIT B4 ME!!! THA OG NIGGA IS RIGHT THO!!! WHAT REAL HOOD NIGGAS IS ON THA INTERNET TYPIN BLOGS N SHIT!! .... RAP MUSIC IS NOT REAL!!! THA NIGGAS U LOOK UP 2 LOOK UP 2 REAL STREET NIGGAS THAT THEY CANT AND SCARED 2 B!! PORNO IS FAKE 2!!! I DONT KNO..... ON SOME REAL SHIT THO!!! DO WHITE AMERICA REALLY CARE? DO THEY? THEY PROLLY THINK ALL OF USE IS ALIKE!!! WE NEED A FUCKIN VOICE!!!....... Y CANT ONE OF THESE RAPPERS WIT ALL THESE EARS, MONEY , AND POWER DO SOME GOOD WITH IT?

  • February 27, 2007 12:22 PM
  • M.FREEMZ.ILLA says...
  • This is the dumbest shit I ever heard. I'm old school fella, I came up in the PJs with the grimeez. I ain't had no computer when I was a youngsta. All the G's on my block ain't have no computer and didn't read no entertainment blogs. Don't spit gang shit on here, gangbangers ain't on the internet. Get a job! You Bastard! Bang out that 9 to 5 and be your own man so you can get a woman. Right now, you a follower walking in the Grim Reapers footsteps. I'm sure you get there soon enough. Genocide means you killing your own people. Black people are probably better off, I think we need to separate the thugs from the decent black people so the thugs can exterminate themselves and real black people can get the respect they deserve in this world.


    Posted by: Mac at February 27, 2007 11:40 AM

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    WHY WOULDNT A GANGMEMBER HAVE A COMPUTER?? NIGGA! COMPUTERS, FLATSCREENS, STUDIO EQUIPMENT ALL THIS SHIT COMES WITH THE GAME!! NIGGAZ HIT LIX.. NIGGA ITZ 2007 DUMBASS.. NIGGAZ IS HITTIN WHITE COLLAR LIX NOW.. WAKE UP!

  • February 27, 2007 12:22 PM
  • triplesixninja says...
  • insightful comment mac
    gangbangin is played

  • February 27, 2007 12:25 PM
  • MrMe3zUp!!! says...
  • Posted by: Mac at February 27, 2007 11:40 AM

    ^^^Thanks for the insight Bill Cosby but if you scared go to church bcuz i bet you wouldnt talk down on gangbangas if they were in your face. I wonder if a gang surrounded you after work would you tell them to get a 9to5 an tell them they should be exterminated.


    Black people are probably better off, I think we need to separate the thugs from the decent black people so the thugs can exterminate themselves and real black people can get the respect they deserve in this world.


    Posted by: Mac at February 27, 2007 11:40 AM

    ^^^Faggit nigga when the war pops off an the NWO/1 world government starts to raid the streets just like the Nazis did in the holocaust an the US military begins invade the hood 1st then youll be beggin for the "thugs" to help you... while "the real black people" turn the other cheek an surrender. Youll see

  • February 27, 2007 12:35 PM
  • brillyancestar says...
  • First of all, great blog. This being SOHH Left Coast, the gang culture we have out west is a major part of the hip hop music out here.Even non-gangsta rappers such as Murs, and Dilated Peoples are forced to reference cuz it's a big thing out West. Now, for the dude that said there's no banging where the black panthers started?? Get the fuck outta here. Do you stay in the house all day? 50% of the north call rappers are bloods. Then there's norteanos, or however the fuck you spell it, so if their there, there has to bloods and crips. No where is "perfect" and wherever there's a hood, there's gangs. There's gangs in Denver, so there's gangs everywhere in California.
    Second of all like dude said, if you started banging after 92, YOUR STUPID. That "product of my environment" shit is so tired. I grew up on the Eastside of Long Beach with the Insanes. All my peoples is from ICG, or YFC, I grew up having problems with Twenties (not because I bang, but they just assholes toward me) and Eastside Longos (because I'm black and they don't care about your gang anymore) and I still don't bang. Gangs are like fraternities now a days. Dudes wanna be able to claim something. Most of my peeps that's a part of that shit, have gotten older and realized it's stupid and blockin they paper, locked up, or dead.That's the reality of this shit. If rappers was REALLY gang banging, you'd never know who the fuck GAME is, cuz he couldn't fuck with Dre, cuz Dre fucks with Snoop. Suge never would've signed anybody, except maybe try and sign Quik. This shit stops you from fucking with people you don't even know. I wouldn't say it's the main reason, but it's one fo the reason the black people in the hood don't unite, they to damn worried about where you from. Then, you only from there, so you can holla at a female and say "what's craccin girl, I'm baby no good from y's"?? or so you can see some dude on your block,grill em and say "y's up cuz" for no fucking reason, with pride like it's something to be proud of. Being from a gang don't help you survive in the streets. Everybody got TV's now, so I'm sure dudes in the hood see, Barack Obama, reruns of a different world, Colin Powell, Condelezza Rice, Reruns of the Cosby Show, House, and Greys anatomy, so u know there's more to black people than just the stupid niggas on the block. Shit's changed, and the "product of my environment" shit is dead. Niggas (I try not to use that word, but sometimes my peoples fit the description) need to wake the fuck up, get up, get out, and get something. Life ain't easy, but nothing that's worth anything is. And to the dude that said bigger cities like New York are too smart for gangs, your ignorent too, cuz you guys have bloods now, and before that ya'll had decepticons, lo lifes, latin kings and other shit.

  • February 27, 2007 12:54 PM
  • Smarty Arty says...
  • were to smart for that

    Posted by: its me bitches at February 27, 2007 8:08 AM

    If you are so smart. Then you would have said "we're too smart for that".

  • February 27, 2007 1:07 PM
  • Mac says...
  • Posted by: Mac at February 27, 2007 11:40 AM

    ^^^Thanks for the insight Bill Cosby but if you scared go to church bcuz i bet you wouldnt talk down on gangbangas if they were in your face. I wonder if a gang surrounded you after work would you tell them to get a 9to5 an tell them they should be exterminated.


    Black people are probably better off, I think we need to separate the thugs from the decent black people so the thugs can exterminate themselves and real black people can get the respect they deserve in this world.


    Posted by: Mac at February 27, 2007 11:40 AM

    ^^^Faggit nigga when the war pops off an the NWO/1 world government starts to raid the streets just like the Nazis did in the holocaust an the US military begins invade the hood 1st then youll be beggin for the "thugs" to help you... while "the real black people" turn the other cheek an surrender. Youll see

    Posted by: MrMe3zUp!!! at February 27, 2007 12:35 PM


    You just confirmed it, why does a gang have to surround? That's Bitch! If I got a problem with a man I'm going to see him one on one. Like I said I'm old school, I came where we threw hands, took the German shepherds, dobermans and rocks to the park to fight for green. The pitbulls came later with the punk ass guns. There are kids 9,10,11 that got guns and they will shoot you for nothing. I guess that makes them just s hard as you. You got a lunchbox too? This is pointless replying to this cat, the whole point is killing somebody for nothing or a color is just ignorant, you a hater plain and simple. Jealous! Put your rags on and murk each other so I can get with your lady when you in the ground bastard!

  • February 27, 2007 2:07 PM
  • whutduhphuck says...
  • This is a very good documentary! Hopefully this will open the eyes of all these stupid muthafuckas runnin around dumpin on niggas for wearin blue or red! Be your own man niggas! Y'all want stripes? Then take yo ass to the Marines or some shit like that. Gangbangin ain't providing you and your fam benefits or an opportunity to be successful in life! Quit talkin that bullshit about "dis my hood, "dis my block". Muthafucka...you ain't payin taxes on the land! You didn't help pave the roads and build the muthafuckin buildings! And most of y'all damn sure ain't doin anything to improve the hood, or tryin to make it a better place for your lil bro, sis, or even kid to live in! We all eat, sleep, and shit! Why the fuck we gonna let colors divide us?!? To all y'all internet bangers...get the fuck off the school's library computer and learn somethin. And to all the niggas that carry a gun around to feel more like a G...fuck y'all too. And if what I said offends you..then here's a BIG warm cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP!

  • February 27, 2007 2:08 PM
  • HaterAid 007 says...
  • THAT DOCUMENTARY WAS THE ISH!!

    THE NARRATOR BROKE THE WHOLE ISH DOWN!!

    PERFECT FUCKING JOB TO THE NARRATOR!!

    SUCKAS!!!

  • February 27, 2007 2:09 PM
  • mo_hef_510 says...
  • Hey eighty, this is a good blog, first of all i have to give u ur props because u have been having some good blogs, there are a lot of haters that post who are still asleep to whats really going on in this world, and they reserve themselvs to bickering on this blog when they could take the info and realy learn somthing. it is the truth, the modern gangs as we know it in the innercites are a direct effect of the disbandnment of the Black Panther Party, and the introduction fo crack cocaine in to the black communities. to be apart of the Movement was to have family, strength, and unity. when the government came in and purpertratied lies and caused conflict between us, and added montary gain and guns, this is what happened. our soliders turned against each other, and destroyed our culture, future, and our dreams. I mean i have not been in a gang but grew up around them and u join a gang for that unity, that family support. no matter what things the family is into ie: drugs, violence, or extortion, u are part of that family and u go with it because ur loyal to ur family.nowadays people dont have any loyality to anything even to themselves. so thats what we need as a people, a family that we can become part of that is not with this simple shit of bickering and seperation and hatred, but of positivity unity and loyality because only then can we overcome the opression that is occuring not only in the black community but in all poor communities. STAND UP. instead of drugs and pimping we be rappin about, we need to take our voice and spread the truth, and history, and goals for the future. i dont usually post any more because all of my posts have been removed. i just wanted to say people out there no matter what reace religion, creed, belife u are WAKE UP!! stop beliving everything u read and hear in the media do ur research and cross reference ur findings with at least 10 sources. the internet is a muthafucka u can find anything on there. better do it soon because they are trying to out law it self. and pay attention to world events because it affects us here from every thing like gas to food to clothes, to life. PLease even if my post doesent make it on the blog whoever reads this WAKE UP and stop hating and learn for ur self and teach the kids, because they are out future.
    PEACE AND BLESSINGS to all MY PEOPLE

  • February 27, 2007 2:32 PM
  • Cool says...
  • Posted by: whutduhphuck at February 27, 2007 2:08 PM

    On point!

  • February 27, 2007 2:45 PM
  • its me bitches says...
  • oh a typo... that must make me dumb and makes everything else i said Irrelavant... bottom line is you couldent take one of our streets in nyc and make them start a war with a nother street that lasted 3 decades... yeah theres a very small percentage of wanna be's but you couldent convice a whole comunity in my city to buy into that non sence.

  • February 27, 2007 3:11 PM
  • 411 says...
  • SPIDER LOC SHOT?

    Late last night, I heard that Spider Loc of G-Unit was shot on the set of a video. As I typed up the rumor, the story kept changing. I'm pleased to say that he was not shot, but an altercation allegedly took place with Game's brother Big Fa$e 100 - not Spider Loc. Yes, something happened and, rumor has it, it is rap beef. Yes, rap beef, that rotten scourge that plagues Hip-Hop music and culture, is the suspect. I don't know for certain, but a certain peace-wanting Compton blood relative of Fase or his crew have been implicated in this. You know, I can only say that stuff like this only makes me want to be more intelligent. So, right now there are rumors around, but not with Spider Loc, not bullets, but Big Fa$e and alleged knuckles. [As a point of clarification, I'm not suggesting that Spider Loc and Big Fase have problems. Read between the lines and stay tuned]

  • February 27, 2007 3:18 PM
  • WestSideDenverLanes says...
  • And to all the niggas that carry a gun around to feel more like a G...fuck y'all too. And if what I said offends you..then here's a BIG warm cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP!

    Posted by: whutduhphuck at February 27, 2007 2:08 PM

    I dont carry a gun to feel like a g, I carry a gun to stay alive....niggas get they heads blown for real. Westside Pasadena Denver Lanes on mine, fuck cKrabs.

  • February 27, 2007 3:19 PM
  • k.ola says...
  • to all the niggas that carry a gun around to feel more like a G...fuck y'all too. And if what I said offends you..then here's a BIG warm cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP!

    Posted by: whutduhphuck at February 27, 2007 2:08 PM

    I dont carry a gun to feel like a g, I carry a gun to stay alive....niggas get they heads blown for real. Westside Pasadena Denver Lanes on mine, fuck


    nigga you from gay ass pasadena ya niggas dont war with nobody you just beat each other up...

    this lil kackie from w/s RSCG no cutt nayborhood crip Arlington to c exact nigga i was lock up with lil stoney from lanes that nigga didnt wont know problems...bkkk

    anyhow Loc shout out to 80 for another good west coast blog...

  • February 27, 2007 3:48 PM
  • MrMe3zUp!!! says...
  • Posted by: WestSideDenverLanes at February 27, 2007 3:19 PM

    ^^^did you know 95 percent of online murders are commited by Ebangers? Pc to Pc crime is at its highest rate in years an your only addin fuel to the fire brother...peace be still faggit nigga you aint scarin anybody on here.

    Mac i read your peace an i agree wit some of it but it just seems niggas like you love talkin down on lost souls yet your to scared to go interact wit them an help them get their mind right face to face.

    Eighty you goin platinum today i left damn near 5 comments an your blogs are gettin better an more relative so i can only asume you got some gay ass nerd shit comin soon to ruin your hot streak. Expect to hear about nonpopular crap groups like Souls of Gaysifs or Pm Dawn before the week is out an im off this foreal

  • February 27, 2007 3:50 PM
  • J.A. says...
  • Eighty I got 2 once again give you props man.I think Eghty is on a roll here with 3 straight blogs in a row that are fucking good subjects and music.I just finished watching this Documentary you posted on and its fucken crazy how the government set up the murders of those 2 Black Panthers members and how they tried to get "The US organization" and Black Panthers 2 beef.The shit that also trips me out is also the part when That crip dude got his car so called impounded by the pigs at the time the crip and bloods had made peace and tried 2 set the crips up by doing a drive by 2 the bloods and saying the crips did it.I could go on yacking about more shit but I aint got no fucken time.So yeah thats a muthafucken trip though.

  • February 27, 2007 3:53 PM
  • rip gangbangin says...
  • gang bangin and dealin drugs are things tha white devil loves 2 c us brown & black people doing, so go head b a pussy and do that shit 2 just cause the next man is doing it...or be a real man grow tha fuck up get a real job and find somthing real 2 live 4, then dieing 4 sum ignorent shit

  • February 27, 2007 3:54 PM
  • Quest For Knowledge says...
  • I'm not even about to read much of the garbage posted up there...

    How serendipitous that this is the topic covered in today's blog. Last night I just happened to be flipping through the channels and came across Minister Farukan's (excuse the spelling) final speech as he's in poor health.

    One thing he mentioned that stood out to me, besides his list recommended reading, was that the black gangs of the country should unite and form a defense against the government. He also said that if we live by the sword we will die by it. In short he was saying that our defense is education. For us to get out of the government training camps and begin teaching our children ourselves.

    Also he said to teach the kids selling drugs and death to by goods that benefit our community and sell them to our people. He made so much sense and I won't even attempt to redo his speech, but damn people, it's NATION TIME.

    We need to teach life. We are at a critical point in black history and it is now time to reign in our people and begin a reeducation. It begins with learning our history and the history of this appressive system that we are bound to.

    In ten years, those who aren't with us will be left behind when we march on strong.

    Please people, wake up.

  • February 27, 2007 4:02 PM
  • BAY MEXI says...
  • IM A BAYAREA MEXICAN AND ITS SAD TO SEE HOW LA IS DOING,WE DONT EVEN FUKS WITH LA MEXICANS OR FOR THAT MATTER NIGGAZ FROM THE BAY DONT FUK WITH LA NIGGAZ/////WE R PRODUCTIVE AND GET MONEY AND TRYING TO COME UP IN THE BAY/////LA SHOULD DO THA SAME!!

  • February 27, 2007 4:04 PM
  • ReallifeHustle says...
  • People stand up and realize that we are destroying the fabric of our being. Killing cats over colors and sets is dumb shit. If folk realized that there is true strength in numbers and band together we might be able to change some shit. That's why the government tears us down whenever we start to band together. WAKE UP!! Niggaz complain about there not being shit for them in the hood, there are no opprotunites. Yet these same cats aren't trying to actively make a difference where they sleep. For those cats that say "I would leave the hood if I could" Go. Nothing is stoping you but your fear. Get out and surprise the world. It's sad that there are people willing to live their whole life in the hood and not try to make it better, or to simply die for a piece a land the government owns. The world is playing chess and were still playing checkers on some connect four shit. There isn't shit wrong with a gang, there is something wrong the cause. Black folk struggled to get free in this country to let themselves mentally and spiritually shackle themselves backdown. It takes time to build back a spirit of a people, the question is are you strong enough to take your first step? Shit I was in that C life but left it behind for my family and dreams. I'm more important than a set and to intelligent and worth too much to eat a bullet. You are to my people. The shit is possible if you want it to be.

    I don't mean to preach but this shit hurts and burns a mans soul.

  • February 27, 2007 4:18 PM
  • DJ OKTOBA 4 PRESIDENT says...
  • @ Eighty & Left Coast

    I watched this documentary about two weeks ago this is a brilliant piece of work that really gives our people a must see documentary if you are growing up on the West coast or in these crazy times where we are repping sets and screaming gangs over everything...

    Remember "Stop the Violence" & "Self Destruction"

    "IT AIN'T JUST MUSIC BLACK PEOPLE WAKE UP"

    DJ OKTOBA IM CHILLING...

  • February 27, 2007 5:13 PM
  • Africa says...
  • What up Eighty,


    Once again nice post my dude. I'm bout to go ahead and watch this documentary on HBO on demand thanks to you. Didn't even know it was out there.

    Coincidentily, i been doin my own research on gang culture recently. So this gone add to it.

    thanks a lot my dude

  • February 27, 2007 5:18 PM
  • awil8717 says...
  • i havent read a better blog in a while. the comment this other dude write on this blogs makes me sick to my stomach. it is the same imaturity and ignorance thatz still got us bottom of the food chain. it saddens me as a black person to see all the hard work and suffering of our great leaders go to waste. we've come a long way since slavery but its clear we've got an even longer way to go. tnx EIGHTY for educating some of these ignorant nitwits.

  • February 27, 2007 5:26 PM
  • J-SMOOTH says...
  • It was very interesting to watch and it was a great documentary and it shows how dirty the LAPD really is and probably alwayz will be for those of you with Digital Cable itz posted on ON-DEMAND under HBO ON-DEMAND- DOCUMENTARIES.
    PEACE, CDC TX

  • February 27, 2007 5:45 PM
  • NeverIgnorantGettinGoalsAccomplished says...
  • good shit about that documentary. niggas need to see the real cause we doin ourselves in right now. dont sleep on Pasadena homie. its been goin down. these lil YGs are blowin each otha heads off wearin the same color. the trip is now niggas aint bangin they color they bangin they set. squigly lanes n denver lanes is killing each other in dena and they both bloods. i cant fuck wit it

  • February 27, 2007 8:58 PM
  • DuvalCounty4ever says...
  • Yo Left Coast I respect this Blog this was some insightful shit good looking

  • February 28, 2007 6:34 AM
  • Skeme says...
  • Cuzin dat was some of da realest shit I ever seen man, you puttin us YG's(I'm 22)on game.I cant do shit but respect that shit.It's Thorough info. and its shit dat probably never would have gotten outif it wasn't 4 you.Us niggaz in da Hood so far from reality when it comes to killin each other its ridiculous.Its Hard to beleive we went from black panthers to taken each other out.I think if we can come back together like dat these crackers a probably kill dem selfs.Your documentary need a lot more exposure and wake these niggaz up.Why in da hell are we going 2 war with each other when we aint even da ones who started this shit? Lets take it back 2 there door step . It's 07 lets make dis mothafuckas pay 4 or niggaz dead and Locked up.Coast to Coast we need to click up and ride.Church!
    E-dub,G.A Curdafied
    Skeme

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