SOHH LEFT COAST
Quit Sleepin' On Dope West Coast Albums
Posted on October 23, 2006 2:40 AM
Everybody talks about supporting artists from their region or coast or state, but why are legitimately DOPE albums from West Coast artists getting routinely slept on? I know the music industry as a whole is in a major slump, and while some of that is due to downloading, file-sharing and all that shit, part of it is also due to rappers releasing half-assed albums that are full of bullshit filler. But then when a West Coast artist comes along and drops a worthwhile album, their shit doesn’t sell.
Two perfect examples: Daz's new joint, So So Gangsta and Too Short's latest, Blow The Whistle. Short’s album was released on August 29th and Daz’s album was released on September 12th, and neither of the albums have gone gold or platinum. Shit, they haven’t even gone wood. To date,
Is it a marketing issue? Jermaine Dupri obviously thinks so to some extent; after Daz’s lackluster sales and the relatively poor sales for Janet Jackson’s album, he’s looking to grab So So Def and jump ship from Virgin. While Too Short’s a legend in the game, and had a pretty successful single with the title track form the new album, it didn’t seem like he had proper promotion for the new album -- just your typical ads in XXL and the like.
But we as West Coast hip hop fans should be the ones who create and sustain success for our rappers, not labels, especially when these rappers legends who paved the way for the new generation of artists, and they’re still making great albums. The saturation of the market by thousands of lames who think they can rap has taken our attention from rappers who have already proven themselves, and who’ve been relatively consistent with their product. While the slew of independent albums that Daz released in between Tha Dogg Pound’s Dogg Food and
It’s not like anyone’s starving here. Daz can live the rest of his life comfortably thanks to his hidden stash of 2Pac masters, and Short’s sold enough records to buy his own island on some Mel Gibson shit. But when we don’t show artists support for their efforts buy buying their album when it’s actually worth buying, they’re gonna lose motivation at some point and stop releasing new material.
Daz’s joint is solid as fuck, and “Money On My Mind” is one of the best Dogg Pound songs ever made. And Short’s album is worth buying just on the strength of “Keep Bouncin,” which features a RIDICULOUS 16 from Snoop. Long story short, if you call yourself a fan of West Coast hip hop and you haven’t bought both of these albums, do your job and go get these before you cop anything else.
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AM I FIRST?? ANYWAY I SEE THE WEST COAST STILL DOING IT.
WEST COAST IS LIKE THE SOUTH, THE BEST IS ALWAYS UNDERGROUND. (HEIROGLYPHICS)
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I am from the West Coast... and West Coast niggas/artists are selfish and self centered. No production from any West Coast niggas/artists have gone WOOD.
Even Independent niggas:
san quinn
big rich
messy marv
c-bo
spice-1
here is how a nigga think:
i'll sell 10,000 records and make 3 to 6 dollars a record, instead of tryna go for gold or plat.
niggas ain't tryna be multi faceted and look at the bigger picture. nigga for self so they ain't sellin.
lil jon had to give e-40 that connect. before that dudes in ny florida houston atlanta never knew who e-40 was. it's all local folk and regional folk shit here on the west but we claim we got the best. if we got the best,let's bring it on the national scene and compete.
look at too short. he came too short of selling his last album cuz west coast niggas selfish and don't think beyond they region.
it's our fault and that's why southern artists all over america and west coast artist stay put.
I am from the West Coast... and West Coast niggas/artists are selfish and self centered. No production from any West Coast niggas/artists have gone WOOD.
Even Independent niggas:
san quinn
big rich
messy marv
c-bo
spice-1
here is how a nigga think:
i'll sell 10,000 records and make 3 to 6 dollars a record, instead of tryna go for gold or plat.
niggas ain't tryna be multi faceted and look at the bigger picture. nigga for self so they ain't sellin.
lil jon had to give e-40 that connect. before that dudes in ny florida houston atlanta never knew who e-40 was. it's all local folk and regional folk shit here on the west but we claim we got the best. if we got the best,let's bring it on the national scene and compete.
look at too short. he came too short of selling his last album cuz west coast niggas selfish and don't think beyond they region.
it's our fault and that's why southern artists all over america and west coast artist stay put.
I am from the West Coast... and West Coast niggas/artists are selfish and self centered. No production from any West Coast niggas/artists have gone WOOD.
Even Independent niggas:
san quinn
big rich
messy marv
c-bo
spice-1
here is how a nigga think:
i'll sell 10,000 records and make 3 to 6 dollars a record, instead of tryna go for gold or plat.
niggas ain't tryna be multi faceted and look at the bigger picture. nigga for self so they ain't sellin.
lil jon had to give e-40 that connect. before that dudes in ny florida houston atlanta never knew who e-40 was. it's all local folk and regional folk shit here on the west but we claim we got the best. if we got the best,let's bring it on the national scene and compete.
look at too short. he came too short of selling his last album cuz west coast niggas selfish and don't think beyond they region.
it's our fault and that's why southern artists all over america and west coast artist stay put.
Its called find a spot, open your trunk, and sell your music!!! Thats what we do in the south.....
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We have to face facts. A very large percentage of african american hip hop fans rarely or never buy music of any kind. We bootleg. No yall bootleg. It is my pet peeve. My soap box issue. My friends all learn pretty quickly not to invite me over to watch their bootlege movies. They don't offer to loan me their bootleg CDs because it will set me off on the lecture circuit. If you want to know why a certain CD is not selling ask us few black people that buy REAL CDs and movies or ask the white kids.
But really, the music might be good to us, but if an artist wants to sell and isn't solely concerned with making good music then they need to make music that appeals to the white kids who actually do look to the streets for what's hot. If they hear a lot of buzz about it they buy it. Diddy and Jigga will very likely go platinum because they got MTV on lock, not because the music it hott. Our people won't contribute much to their success because yall will be copping the CDs from Hussle Man.
Yeah true I unserdtand where u commin from and this is a a problem. BUT... dont forget two earlier releases this year Ice Cube - Laugh Now and cry later & E-40 - My Getto Report Card, they both Sold 450,000+ infact Ice Cubes gone Gold INDEPENDANT.
True i beleieve Daz n TS cudda sold more but it was mainly due to lack of promotion but i think if the west continues to keep droppin dope albums its only a matter of time. I mean we got The Game - DA (nov 14th) & Snoop - TBCT (nov 21st) and both those albums will hit platinum.
Peace
Both Too Short and Daz are in ATL. Lil' Jon producing Too Short?! Jermaine fucking Dupri producing Daz?!
Those aren't west coast albums!! Lol
Niggaz need to go and cop DPG 'Cali Iz Active'
the new Icecube, Snoop's Blue Carpet Treatment and The Game's Doctor's Advocate when they drop!
And Where the fuck is Spider Loc from G-Unit Crips? I wanna hear that shit!
WHY N THE FUCK JAY-Z NAME ALWAYS END UP N SHIT WE AZ PEOPLE IS NOT TALKIN ABOUT JAY-Z CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE WEST WITHOUT HIM CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE SOUTH WITH OUT HIM LEAVE HIS ASS ON THE EASTSIDE PLEASE LOL REAL SHIT HE IS GETING LIKE BEYONCE ALWAYS POPIN UP IN SHIT HE DONT B-LONG LOL NAW I LUV JAY BUT HE CANT BE THE SUBJECT OF EVERYTHING WHEN HE NOT IN THE TOPIC
In the meantime...
Free Downloads!!!!
New Music!!
From: Intellectual Wizardry/I.W.
"Touch Da Ceiling"
Off the forthcoming Album
"The Faculty"
AND WHY ALL THESE OLD ASS RAPPER FROM THE 90s STILL CUMING OUT DAM AND ITS NOT JUS ON THE WEST ITS ON THE EAST AND ITS DOWN SOUTH CAN YALL PLEASE LET SUM YOUNG NIGGAS IN THIS SHIT CAN YOUNG NIGGAS EAT GOOD 2 SHIT IM TIRED OF LOOKING AT YALL OLD ASS 30/40 SUM OLD RAPPERS THAT STILL TRYNA MAKE A CUM BACK AND IMA FEMALE AND IM MAD CUZ ITS ALOT OF YOUNG NIGGAS ON THE EAST-WEST AND DOWN SOUTH THAT CAN RAP AND GOT TALENT JUS LIKE U OLD NIGGAS BUT THEY AINT GETIN NO SHINE CUZ U OLD NIGGAS TAKE'N OVA DAM CAN A RAPPER UNDER THE AGE OF 21 CUM OUT BESIDES BOWWOW AND JIBBS CAN THESE YOUNG NIGGAS RIDE AROUND IN MAYBACHS SHIT CAN THEY TRAVEL AROUND THE WORLD CAN THEY BUY MAMA A BIG ASS HOUSE GET HER OUT THE HOOD NAW THEY DONT WANT YOUNG NIGGAS IN THE GAME CUZ THEY KNO WE CUM THREW WE TAKEIN OVA BUT I GUEST IF U YOUNG U HAVE TO BE A SINGER TO GET SIGH LIKE CHRIS BROWN, NE-YO..ETC BUT N 2008 I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHERE YALL FROM THE EAST WEST SOUTH YALL YOUNG NIGGAS BETA GET YALL SHIT TOGETHER PUT A HIT SINGLE OUT AND OUT SELL THESE OLD RAPPER PEOPLE WONDER WHY NAS SAY HIP HOP DEAD CUZ WE NEED YOUNG NIGGAS N THE GAME RAPPING ABOUT NEW SHIT THAT GOES ON TODAY NOT THAT OLD SHIT FROM THE 90s 4 REAL SAY WHAT U WANNA SAY IM TIRED OF YOUNG NIGGAS MAKING CDS AND SHIT BUT NOT GETN HEARD..ALL THESE FUCKING PRODUCES OUT 50 CENT,JAY-Z,DIDDY,DR DRE,EM,SNOOP,JD,JAZZY FE,MANNY FRESH ETC..THEY WONNA SIGH THESE OLD NIGGAS THATS BEFFING AND AINT SELLING SHIT
AND WHY ALL THESE OLD ASS RAPPER FROM THE 90s STILL CUMING OUT DAM AND ITS NOT JUS ON THE WEST ITS ON THE EAST AND ITS DOWN SOUTH CAN YALL PLEASE LET SUM YOUNG NIGGAS IN THIS SHIT CAN YOUNG NIGGAS EAT GOOD 2 SHIT IM TIRED OF LOOKING AT YALL OLD ASS 30/40 SUM OLD RAPPERS THAT STILL TRYNA MAKE A CUM BACK AND IMA FEMALE AND IM MAD CUZ ITS ALOT OF YOUNG NIGGAS ON THE EAST-WEST AND DOWN SOUTH THAT CAN RAP AND GOT TALENT JUS LIKE U OLD NIGGAS BUT THEY AINT GETIN NO SHINE CUZ U OLD NIGGAS TAKE'N OVA DAM CAN A RAPPER UNDER THE AGE OF 21 CUM OUT BESIDES BOWWOW AND JIBBS CAN THESE YOUNG NIGGAS RIDE AROUND IN MAYBACHS SHIT CAN THEY TRAVEL AROUND THE WORLD CAN THEY BUY MAMA A BIG ASS HOUSE GET HER OUT THE HOOD NAW THEY DONT WANT YOUNG NIGGAS IN THE GAME CUZ THEY KNO WE CUM THREW WE TAKEIN OVA BUT I GUEST IF U YOUNG U HAVE TO BE A SINGER TO GET SIGH LIKE CHRIS BROWN, NE-YO..ETC BUT N 2008 I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHERE YALL FROM THE EAST WEST SOUTH YALL YOUNG NIGGAS BETA GET YALL SHIT TOGETHER PUT A HIT SINGLE OUT AND OUT SELL THESE OLD RAPPER PEOPLE WONDER WHY NAS SAY HIP HOP DEAD CUZ WE NEED YOUNG NIGGAS N THE GAME RAPPING ABOUT NEW SHIT THAT GOES ON TODAY NOT THAT OLD SHIT FROM THE 90s 4 REAL SAY WHAT U WANNA SAY IM TIRED OF YOUNG NIGGAS MAKING CDS AND SHIT BUT NOT GETN HEARD..ALL THESE FUCKING PRODUCES OUT 50 CENT,JAY-Z,DIDDY,DR DRE,EM,SNOOP,JD,JAZZY FE,MANNY FRESH,LIL JON ETC..THEY WONNA SIGH THESE OLD NIGGAS THATS BEFFING AND AINT SELLING SHIT
Dudes just not supportin cause these dude aint bein creative. One of you SOHH dudes hit it right on the head, the public aint stupid mayne. They all sayin the same shit.
Shit anit nothing selling and i aint gon lie i DL the shit instead of buy but you bets beleive i copped that rotten apple and ill be copping kingdom come and hip hop is dead
To the Truth
Are you dumb the old niggas got talent thats why they still rappin. you probaly think D4l & Dfb are legends. Females are the dumbest when it comes down to knowing real tue good Rap music. All these young nigz is making is chain hang low & Lean wit it. The young dont need to put a hit together like you said Dumbass they need to to start spitting real lyrics again.
Compare a ll of yo yung Favorite rappers to my favorite old Rappers
Scarface
UGK
too short
snoop
nas
em
outkast
8 ball & mjg
juvenile
D Banner
three six
spice 1
gangsta nip
k-rino
ESG
Geto Boys
5th Ward boys
Rakim KRS-1
The truth responed wit your yung rappers and tell me whos better
I reapet females dont know real rap music
best rapper alive SCARFACE
With Too Short I think it was bad marketing. First off, not many of these younger consumers know who he is, so most of us that bought the album have been diehard loyal fans. First off, they changed the album name, and didn't even list it in the papers or on TV it was out. I went to Best Buy to get Young Dro and saw Too Shorts album on the shelf. That is the only reason I knew it had just came out, and luckily I bought it just because I bought all his other ones.
@ Truth
If you really want somebody to read your post please stop typing in caps mayne,it makes it harder to understand what you are saying if you are trying to make a relevant point.
and to rest of people who want to write in caps please take a course in rhetoric at your local city college if you need to learn how to express yourselves like adults.
Why I Gave Up On Hip-Hop (Washington Post)
By Lonnae O'Neal Parker
Sunday, October 15, 2006; Page B01
My 12-year-old daughter, Sydney, and I were in the car not long ago when she turned the radio to a popular urban contemporary station. An unapproved station. A station that might play rap music. "No way, Syd, you know better," I said, so Sydney changed the station, then pouted.
"Mommy, can I just say something?" she asked. "You think every time you hear a black guy's voice it's automatically going to be something bad. Are you against hip-hop?"
Her words slapped me in the face. In a sense, she was right. I haven't listened to radio hip-hop for years. I have no clue who is topping the charts and I can't name a single rap song in play.
But I swear it hasn't always been that way.
My daughter can't know that hip-hop and I have loved harder and fallen out further than I have with any man I've ever known.
That my decision to end our love affair had come only after years of disappointment and punishing abuse. After I could no longer nod my head to the misogyny or keep time to the vapid materialism of another rap song. After I could no longer sacrifice my self-esteem or that of my two daughters on an altar of dope beats and tight rhymes.
No, darling, I'm not anti-hip-hop, I told her. And it's true, I still love hip-hop. It's just that our relationship has gotten very complicated.
When those of us who grew up with rap saw signs that it was turning ugly, we turned away. We premised our denial on a sort of good-black-girl exceptionalism: They came for the skeezers but I didn't speak up because I'm no skeezer, they came for the freaks, but I said nothing because I'm not a freak. They came for the bitches and the hos and the tricks. And by the time we realized they were talking about bitches from 8 to 80, our daughters and our mommas and their own damn mommas, rap music had earned the imprimatur of MTV and Martha Stewart and even the Pillsbury Doughboy.
And sometimes it can seem like now, there is nobody left who is willing to speak up.
I remember the day hip-hop found me. The year was 1979 and although "Rapper's Delight" wasn't the first rap song, it was the first rap song to make it all the way from the South Bronx to Hazel Crest, Ill.
I was 12, the same age my oldest daughter is now, when hip-hop began to shape my politics and perceptions and aesthetics. It gave me a meter for my thoughts and bent my mind toward metaphor and rhyme. I couldn't sing a lick, but didn't hip-hop give me the beginnings of a voice. About the time that rap music hit Hazel Crest, all the black kids sat in the front of my school bus, all the white kids sat in back, and the loudest of each often argued about what we were going to listen to on the bus radio or boombox. Music was code for turf and race in the middle-class, mostly-white-but-heading-black suburbs south of Chicago.
One day, our bus driver tried to defuse tensions by disallowing both. Left without music, some of the black kids started singing "Rapper's Delight." Within a couple of lines, we all joined in:
Now what you hear is not a test
I'm rappin' to the beat.
Then the white kids started chanting: Dis-co sucks, dis-co sucks, dis-co sucks, dis-co sucks , repeating the white-backlash, anti-rap mantra of the era.
The white kids got louder: DIS-CO SUCKS, DIS-CO SUCKS, DIS-CO SUCKS, DIS-CO SUCKS.
So we got louder, too:
YA SEE, I AM WONDER MIKE AND I LIKE TO SAY HELLO
TO THE BLACK, TO THE WHITE, THE RED AND THE BROWN
THE PURPLE AND YELLOW.
Then the white kids started yelling until their faces suffused with color.
And so we started yelling rhymes that I still know to this day, some of which my kids know and, I bet, so do some of the kids of those white kids who screamed at us from the back of my junior high school bus, raging against change, raging against black people, or, who knows, maybe just not appreciating our musical stylings.
SO I RAPPED TO THE BEAT LIKE I NEVER DID BEFORE.
We rhymed and the white kids disappeared before our eyes because we were in another world -- transported by the collective sound of our own raised voices, transfixed by our newfound ability to drown out their nullification.
We felt ourselves united, with the power of a language we didn't begin to understand. "Rap at its best can refashion the world -- or at least the way we see it -- and shape it in our own image," said Adam Bradley, a literature professor at Claremont McKenna College who is working on a book about hip-hop poetics. It has the capacity "to give a voice that's distinctively our own and to do it with the kind of confidence and force we might not otherwise have."
I grew older, and my love affair with the music, swagger and semiotics of hip-hop continued. There was Kurtis Blow, Melle Mel and the seminal Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five:
Don't push me 'cause I'm close to the edge
I'm tryin' not to lose my head.
I learned all the rhymes played on black radio, because do you remember when MTV wouldn't touch black music at all? I got to college and started getting my beats underground, which is where I stayed to find my hip-hop treasures. Public Enemy rapped "Fight the Power" and it could have been the soundtrack to CNN footage of Tiananmen Square or the fall of the Berlin Wall:
Got to give us what we want
Gotta give us what we need
Our freedom of speech is freedom or death
We got to fight the powers that be.
I was young and hungry and hip-hop was smart, and like Neneh Cherry said, we were raw like sushi back then, sensing we were onto something big, not realizing how easily it could get away from us.
* * *
Of course, the rhymes were sexy, too, part of a long black tradition starting with the post-emancipation blues. It was music that borrowed empathy and passion from exultations of the sacred, to try to score a bit of heaven in secular places.
It was college, and in the late 1980s and early 1990s, the post-civil rights, post-sexual revolution, newly grown hip-hop generation imagined that we had shed our momma's chastity-equals-black-uplift strictures anyway. So when MC Lyte rapped, "I ain't afraid of the sweat," well, you know, we waved our hands in the air. Besides, it was underground music, adult music, part of a wide range of expression, and it's not like we worried that it could ever show up on the radio.
Hip-hop was still largely about the break-beat and dance moves and brothers who battled solely on wax. It was Whodini, Eric B. & Rakim, Dana Dane, EPMD, A Tribe Called Quest. And always and forever, Lonnae Loves Cool James. I knew all LL Cool J's b-sides and used to sleep under a poster of him that hung on my wall. I still have a picture of the two of us that was taken one Howard homecoming weekend.
And if, gradually, we noticed a trend, more violence, more misogyny, more materialism, more hostile sexual stereotyping, a general constricting of subject matter, for a very long time we let it slide.
In 1988, EPMD rapped about a woman named Jane:
So PMD (Yo?) Why don't you do me a favor?
Chill with the bitch and I'll hook you up later
She's fly, haircut like Anita Baker
Looked up and down and said "Hmm, I'll take her."
But by last spring, it was Atlanta-based rapper T.I.:
I ain't hangin' with my niggaz
Pullin' no triggaz
I'll be back to the trap, but for now
I'm chillin' with my bitch today, I'm chillin' with my bitch today.
Nearly 20 years later and T.I. can't even be bothered to give his "bitch" a name.
We were so happy black men were speaking their truth, "we've gone too long without challenging them," as Danyel Smith, former editor of Vibe magazine, put it. And now, perhaps, hip-hop is too far gone.
* * *
At the 2003 MTV Video Music Awards, rappers Snoop Doggy Dog and 50 Cent embellished their performance of the song "P.I.M.P." by featuring black women on leashes being walked onstage. This past August, MTV2 aired an episode of the cartoon "Where My Dogs At," which had Snoop again leading two black bikini-clad women around on leashes. They squatted on their hands and knees, scratched themselves and defecated.
The president of the network, a black woman, defended this as satire.
Hip-hop had long since gone mainstream and commercial. It was Diddy, white linen suits and Cristal champagne in the Hamptons. And it was for white suburban boys as well as black club kids. And it now promoted a sexual aesthetic, a certain body type, a certain look. Southern rappers had even popularized a kind of strip-club rap making black women indistinguishable from strippers.
I don't know the day things changed for me. When the music began to seem so obviously divorced from any truth and, just as unforgivably, devoid of most creativity. I don't know when my love turned to contempt and my contempt to fury. Maybe it happened as my children got older and I longed for music that would speak to them the way hip-hop had once spoken to me.
Maybe as the coolest black boys kept getting shot on the streets while the coolest rappers droned: AK-47 now nigga, stop that.
Maybe as the madness made me want to holler back: "Niggas" can't stop AK-47s , and damn you for saying so.
Last year, talk show host Kelly Ripa gushed to 50 Cent, a former drug dealer turned rapper, about how important his movie "Get Rich or Die Tryin' " was while black women around the country were left to explain to their own black sons, " Sometimes, darling, black boys get shot nine times and they don't live to brag about it on the mike . "
And a few weeks ago, watching the Disney Channel cartoon short "Fabulizer," I seethed when the little white character lamented that his "thug pose" wasn't working.
While the mainstream culture celebrates the pimped-out, thugged-up, cool-by-proxy mirage of commercial rap, those of us who just love black people have to be a little more discriminating. "Sometimes," writes sociologist Mary Pattillo-McCoy, "when you dress like a gangsta, talk like a gangsta and rap like a gangsta often enough, you are a gangsta."
My husband, Ralph, and I try to tell Sydney that rap music used to be fun. It used to call girls by prettier names. We were ladies and cuties, honeys and hotties, and we all just felt like one nation under the groove. Sydney, I tell her, I want you to have all the creativity, all the bite, all the rhythms of black rhyme, but I can't let you internalize toxic messages, no matter how cool some millionaire black rappers tell you they are.
Sydney nods, but I don't know if she fully understands.
* * *
I was born to be the Lyte
To give the spark in the dark
Spread the truth to the youth
The ghetto Joan of Arc
-- MC Lyte
Last spring, I got together with some other moms from the first generation of hip-hop. We decided to distribute free T-shirts with words that counter some of the most violent, anti-intellectual and degrading cultural messages: You look better without the bullet holes. Put the guns down. Or my favorite: You want this? Graduate! We called it the Hip-Hop Love Project.
Others are trying their own versions of taking back the music. In Baltimore, spoken-word poet Tonya Maria Matthews, aka JaHipster, is launching her own "Groove Squad." The idea is to get together a couple dozen women to go to clubs prepared to walk off the dance floor en masse if the music is openly offensive or derogatory. "There's no party without sisters on the dance floor," she told me. In New York, hip-hop DJ and former model Beverly Bond formed Black Girls Rock! to try to change the portrayal of black women in the music and influence the women who are complicit in it. "We don't want to be hypersexualized," said Joan Morgan, a hip-hop writer and part of the group, but we don't want to be erased, either.
Finally, it feels like we've gotten back to what black women are supposed to have always known: that it is better to fight than to lie down.
My daughter says I don't like black voices and I could weep that it's come to this. But instead I listen to the most conscious hip-hop that comes my way: Common, Talib Kweli, the Roots, KOS, Kanye West, who blends the commercial with commentary. I close my eyes to listen as Mos Def says:
My Umi said shine your light on the world.
And still, always and forever, Lonnae Loves Cool James.
I keep my CD player filled with old-school tracks and I fill my kids' heads with the coolest, most conscious, most bang-bang the boogie say up jump the boogie songs from when hip-hop and I were young. Sydney says I don't like black voices and I say: Ax Butta how I zone/ Man, Cleopatra Jones .
I make Sydney listen to songs from when rap said something, but my daughter is 12 and she laughs at me. Rap says something now, Mommy, she says.
Lean wit' it
Rock wit' it
Lean wit' it
Rock wit' it
She snaps her fingers and I just nod. Change is gonna come. Meanwhile, her song is catchy. And there are no bitches!
At least not in the chorus.
oneall@washpost.com
Lonnae O'Neal Parker, a Washington Post staff writer, is author of "I'm Every Woman: Remixed Stories of Marriage, Motherhood and Work" (Amistad/Harper
Collins), out in paperback this month.
The reason they didn't sell because they had lil Jon Produce there album. The west coast wants to hear a classic west coast sound album.
Down South have they sound and New York have they sound, So we on the west coast wants to hear a classic west coast album. Now don't get it twisted, we don't want to here the same stuff we heard in the 90's on the west coast, but we still want that west coast flavor included in the album and Single. Plus we on the west coast need to stop bootlegging and go out and buy records.
Game and Snoop will sell. Be on the look out for 2007 the west coast will be deep on the hip hop scene. Everybody is fiending for some west coast classics like pac!!!
Holla!!!
The reason Daz shit did'nt sell is because he is not a lyricist West Coast is n dying need of some creative lyricism. Too Short's a legend but, he has no lyrics this is a new day an age. More or less where's the substance or thought provoking lyrics at. Gang bangin,pimpin hoes an sellin dope that shit's old nigga been on that shit for the pass 13 years. We need some rappers who embody the streets yet, intelligent enough to b creative Jayo Felony an this new west coast group called Tha Boondoks they got lyrics. I'm West Coast but I'm not wastin my change on a Daz cd for what? Same shit. I'd rather go on-line an cop D-block mixtapes too get the lyrics an the streets. I won't feel short changed plus it's a lot cheaper
The Best West Coast Artists...here's the List.
1. Problem (compton-Def Jam) (mixxtape"Deal or No Deal-I Got Next) hottest shit the streets
2. Myestro (Inglewood) (mixxtape" The Best 110 West) Fire
3. G. Malone (watts)(sony)
4. Ya Boy (Bay Area)
5.Jay Rock (watts)
This is the westcoast. for more info go to www.wcrydaz.com.
Did anyone read the post from The Gift? That's real talk. Like Jay-Z said, "you can't respect that, your whole persective is wack".
Oh! btw, the reason why Daz and Too Short don't sell is because Daz is not as good as people make him out to be and Too Short's single was stupid and makes no damn sense.
i just want to know whats up with chino xl hands down one of the sickest mcs period.show that brother some love.he is a fucking beast.
the only cats spittin for the west is ice cube, kemystery, crooked i and ras kass everybody else fell off like a bad bag of dope noone on the west coast is even fuccin wit these mc's
Fuckin "A" the West Coast has mad shit being slept on.
GO OUT AND GET THAT NEW "DAZ," SHIT IS TOO SICK HOMIES.
NEXT GO GET THAT NEW MITCHY SLICK,"URBAN SURVIVAL SYNDROME." THAT SOME OF THAT SAN DIEGO SHIT FOR YA.
THEN, YALL BETTER NOT SLEEP ON XZIBIT, HIS NEW LP IS FUCKIN FIRE , FOR REAL YALL. XZIBIT NEVER WENT ANYWHERE, YALL GOTTA THESE A.S.A.P. FUCK A DOWNLOAD. I BOUGHT THAT SHIT THE FIRST DAY.
MARK THEM DOWN.
1.)DAT NIGGA DAZ
2.)MITCHY SLICK
3.)XZIBIT
that's a real bold ass statement to say that niggas didn't know who e-40 was. I mean niggas remember 40 waters, hurricane, the players ball all that shit. You might wanna rethink that one
WE'RE NOT SLEEPING ON DOPE CLASSIC WEST COAST ALBUMS! WE'RE SLEEPING ON TRASH! TOO SHORT, X-Z & DAZ ARE WASHED UP OG'S. THEY DON'T STAND THE TEST OF TIME LIKE JAY-Z! WAKE ME UP WHEN GLASSES MALONE & YA BOY DROP THEIR DEBUT ALBUMS!
BISHOP LAMONT SIGHNED TO DR DRE,GLASSES MALONE MR 1.7 MILL WITH SONY,CASHIS SIGHNED TO SHADY/INTERSCOPE,YA BOY SIGHNED TO THE GAME,BIG RICH BAYAREA ARTIST,CROOKED I IN TALKS WITH AFTERMATH,AND HPOPEFULLY DETOX DROPS ON 2007 AND SHUTS THE WHOLE GAME DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!AND OHYEAH THE DOCTORS ADVOCATE WICH IS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM 2006-2007,AND SNOOP DOGG BLUE CARPET TREATMENT WICH IS BANANAS!!!!
WESTCOAST TAKEOVER, I'M GLAD YOU SHEDDED SOME LIGHT ON THE NEW WEST COAST CATS! ALTHOUGH YA BOY IS STILL COOL WITH GAME, I THOUGHT HE WAS NO LONGER ON BLACK WALL STREET?
1. Intro
2. It's Okay (One Blood) (w/ Junior Reid) [Prod. by Reefa]
3. Lay You Down (w/ Mary J. Blige) [Prod. by Cool & Dre]
4. Remedy [Prod. by Just Blaze]
5. Let's Ride [Prod. by Scott Storch]
6. Wouldn't Get Far (w/ Kanye West) [Prod. by Kanye West]
7. Old English [Prod. by Timbaland]
8. Hustla's Dream (w/ Anthony Hamilton) [Prod. by Dre & Vidal]
9. California Vacation (w/ Snoop Dogg & Xzibit) [Prod. by Jonathan "JR" Rotem]
10. Stop [Prod. by Cool & Dre]
11. Compton [Prod. by Will.I.Am]
12. Devil's Song [Prod. by Jonathan "JR" Rotem]
13. Gutta (w/ Nate Dogg) [Prod. by Scott Storch]
14. Two Occasions [Prod. by Nu Jerzey Devil]
15. The Shop (w/ Tha Dogg Pound) [Prod. by Just Blaze]
16. Hang It Up [Prod. by 9th Wonder]
17. Hate the Game (w/ Nas & Marsha Ambrosius) [Prod. by Just Blaze]
18. Scream On `Em [Prod. by Swizz Beats]
"Think About It" (Produced by Frequency)[3]
"Vato" (featuring B-Real of Cypress Hill) (Produced by The Neptunes)
"Candy" (featuring E-40, Daz Dillinger, Kurupt, MC Eiht & Goldie Loc) (Produced by Rick Rock)
"So Special" (featuring Brandy Norwood & Pharrell Williams) (Produced by The Neptunes)
"Do It" (Produced by Terrace Martin)
"I Need a Light" (Produced by Timbaland)
"Gang Banging 101" (featuring The Game) (Produced by THX)
"L.A.X." (featuring Ice Cube) (Produced by Battlecat)
"Have To Talk With God" (featuring Stevie Wonder) (Produced by DJ Pooh) (Remake of Stevie Wonder's 1976 song "Have A Talk With God")
"Real Talk" (Produced by LT Hutton)
"My Peoples" (Produced by Battlecat)
"Let It Rain" (featuring Pimp C) (Produced by Daz Dillinger)
"Imagine" (featuring Dr. Dre) (Produced by Dr. Dre)
"That's That Shit" (featuring R. Kelly) (Produced by Nottz)
"L.A. Zoo" (featuring Timbaland) (Produced by Timbaland)
"Put This Thang On You" (featuring Ne-Yo) (Produced by Ne-Yo)
"Wanna Be's" (featuring Young Jeezy) (Produced by Sha Money XL)
1. "Pac's Life" (feat. T.I. and Ashanti)
2. "Dumpin" (feat. Papoose)
3. "What's Next"
4. "Fade Me" (feat. R. Kelly)
5. "Soon As I Get Home" (feat. Chamillionaire and Akon)
6. "Untouchable"
7. "Watch Ya Mouth"
8. "Til I C L.A."
9. "If There's A Cure (I Don't Want It)" (feat. Snoop Dogg and The Outlawz)
10. "Play Ya Cardz Right" (feat. E-40 and DK)
11. "Street Life" (feat. Snoop Dogg and Zola)
12. "21 Gun Salute" (feat. 50 Cent and Young Buck)
13. "When Nobody Lovez Me"
14. "Watch Ya Mouth" (Ron Browz Remix)
15. "Untouchable" (Swizz Beatz Remix) (feat. Bone-Thugs-N-Harmony)
16. "Play Ya Cardz Right" (Kanye West Remix) (feat. Kanye West and GLC)
When the west coast realizes that gang mentality = 0 dollars they will start recuperating, and carve out a relevant niche in the game again.
YABOY AINT SIGNED TO GAME. YABOY ON HIS OWN SHIT ITS PRECISE MUSIC AND ITS FUNNY CAUSE WHEN YABOY MIXTAPE DROP THIS BOY GOING PLATINUM! HE GOT A FANBASE FROM CALI TO NY EVEN MOTHAFUCKERS IN THE BRONX FEELIN YABOY AND OVERSEAS. DUNNO WHY DAZ ALBUM AINT SOLD HE HAD A COUPLE OF TIGHT JOINTS ON THERE BUT DUNNO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE SICK OF HEARIN HIM LOL. HOW DID THE DOGG POUND ALBUM DO???
What about Mitchy SlicK "Urban Survivle Syndrom" is one of the best albums out ,No matter what the coast,An Iam from the East Coast.
The West coast is dead. Snoop is a sucker, he had this peace traety cause Suge was sending niggas to kick his ass up and down Hollywood. Jayo Felony got in dat boy ass. Game is a good rapper but he is BAIT. Niggas can rob him anytime they want, he like a ATM ready to spit out money to get protected. The West need new niggas reppin, these cats trying to come out now is weenie ass niggas , ready to get shot up, fa realz.
Mann all yall got to stop sleeping on CROOKED I hes gonna be the next to blow up!!!!!
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COB Dynasty
I didn't even know Too $hort's album was out... I love West Coast Hip Hop... They have some serious lyricists like MAekstro, Problem, Bishop Lamont, & Cashis!
Mann all yall got to stop sleeping on CROOKED I hes gonna be the next to blow up!!!!!
myspaace.com/crookedi
COB Dynasty
Posted by: COB at October 23, 2006 04:17 PM
FUCK, I double co-sign that!!!I been waiting for an album from him.
I HOPE DR DRE DROPS DETOX ON THIS BITCH ASS NIGGAZ,AND CHANGES THE GAME LIKE HE DOES!!!!!!!!!!
I'm coppin Xzibit
but we don't here much west coast music out here for me to be comfortable buying a Daz solo joint
I like DPG but Kurupt was the one that always stood out.
wish him the best though
if he can get his joints on more mixtapes on the east coast (sucks how regional our music is cause fk a coast if its how I'll buy it) I would be able
to know more if this is something I should cop.
One
the west coast outside of game isn't relevant anymore. no one gives a fuck about daz, kurrupt, nate dogg and those other clowns. the south runs shit now, so go get a grill and some candy paint and some drank and salute the kings of the south
FUCK OUTTA HERE U SOUTHERN MOOLIE,U TOOK OUR RAPS AND RAN WITH IT THE WEST IS YOUR FATHER SO BOW DOWN BITCH!!!!!
The reason west coast artist don't sell is because they don't get any promotion Xzibit is main stream and still cannot get the promotion. The Game gets promotion becauese The Game got his promotion from 50 but The Game if he really brought the west back these cats should get more press it goes to show that The Game just another rapper who only cares about himself
I have to cosign the individual above!.
The south is just a recycled bootleg version of the west coast!.
@ Lil J
look u dum fuck i dent say i like bowwow r jibbs i said its alot of young niggas making music n not getin heard yo ass must b old az fuck cuz u takeing this shit 2 da head cum the fuck down like i said ima female n i kno mo about the fuckn rap game than u haha get a fuck'n life yo n 4 u to say females dum when it cum to hip hop i guest if i was a nigga u would have agree right shut that shit up 4 real
n i said 21 n under u fuckn dip shit
AND WHY ALL THESE OLD ASS RAPPER FROM THE 90s STILL CUMING OUT DAM AND ITS NOT JUS ON THE WEST ITS ON THE EAST AND ITS DOWN SOUTH CAN YALL PLEASE LET SUM YOUNG NIGGAS IN THIS SHIT CAN YOUNG NIGGAS EAT GOOD 2 SHIT IM TIRED OF LOOKING AT YALL OLD ASS 30/40 SUM OLD RAPPERS THAT STILL TRYNA MAKE A CUM BACK AND IMA FEMALE AND IM MAD CUZ ITS ALOT OF YOUNG NIGGAS ON THE EAST-WEST AND DOWN SOUTH THAT CAN RAP AND GOT TALENT JUS LIKE U OLD NIGGAS BUT THEY AINT GETIN NO SHINE CUZ U OLD NIGGAS TAKE'N OVA DAM CAN A RAPPER UNDER THE AGE OF 21 CUM OUT BESIDES BOWWOW AND JIBBS CAN THESE YOUNG NIGGAS RIDE AROUND IN MAYBACHS SHIT CAN THEY TRAVEL AROUND THE WORLD CAN THEY BUY MAMA A BIG ASS HOUSE GET HER OUT THE HOOD NAW THEY DONT WANT YOUNG NIGGAS IN THE GAME CUZ THEY KNO WE CUM THREW WE TAKEIN OVA BUT I GUEST IF U YOUNG U HAVE TO BE A SINGER TO GET SIGH LIKE CHRIS BROWN, NE-YO..ETC BUT N 2008 I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHERE YALL FROM THE EAST WEST SOUTH YALL YOUNG NIGGAS BETA GET YALL SHIT TOGETHER PUT A HIT SINGLE OUT AND OUT SELL THESE OLD RAPPER PEOPLE WONDER WHY NAS SAY HIP HOP DEAD CUZ WE NEED YOUNG NIGGAS N THE GAME RAPPING ABOUT NEW SHIT THAT GOES ON TODAY NOT THAT OLD SHIT FROM THE 90s 4 REAL SAY WHAT U WANNA SAY IM TIRED OF YOUNG NIGGAS MAKING CDS AND SHIT BUT NOT GETN HEARD..ALL THESE FUCKING PRODUCES OUT 50 CENT,JAY-Z,DIDDY,DR DRE,EM,SNOOP,JD,JAZZY FE,MANNY FRESH ETC..THEY WONNA SIGH THESE OLD NIGGAS THATS BEFFING AND AINT SELLING SHIT
Posted by: Truth at October 23, 2006 08:05 AM
^^^^^ do US ALL A FAVOR AND SHUT UP BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!! real hip hop doesn't abide by age,it's about the actual product,you think young cats should get a shot just cause they young? get the fucc outta here with that,equals need to bring it
i cop't dat dogg food nigga but in de used section for 3 dollaS. aint dissin dude it was hot
west coast ain't shit. all these artists want to sell 10,000 records and they afraid to compete on a national and global level
that's why they weak
they know they can't sell outside they little hoods
they all want to be pimps and lyrical ganstas
shits played out
Bow Down to the west.If you havent seen a drive by here then you dont live here.FROM CA$$$$$$$$$ FO SHO My Nigga south took are shit and perfected it.Time to give that back you south pony mother fuckers.
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@ Anonymous
do US ALL A FAVOR AND SHUT UP BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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U DUSTY ASS OLD ASS NIGGAS KILL ME WITH THAT SHIT..THE WORD BITCH HAHAHAHA DO YALL REALLY THINK FEMALES HURT CUZ OF THAT WORD WE JUS CUM BACK WITH BITCH ASS NIGGA JUS WHAT U ARE
N STOP SUCK'N ALL THIS DICK CUZ THEY DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT U Anonymous DAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Truth
I understand if I pissed U off a lil wit the female thing but most females favorite rappers either got gross lyrics or they think they cute, now I didnt say all females.
Anyway I know you want yung rappers to get more recognition in the rap game But I dont unless they are desent-Great.
my favorite yung rappers the ones you can relate to,
Chamillionaire
Lil wayne
Boosie
Luda
Jeezy
Lil Flip
Z-Ro
Game
Cassidy
But I do hate T.I. rap skills are OK but way to cocky and thinks that he's is God. Anyone who has to say that there the king of something with out have a somebody crown them that he anit no king. T.I. been shouting King of the south for 5 years now.
Oh yeah gurl Im 17 years old I just like the legends of hip hop and as you can see Im from the South.
TEXAS to be Exact.
I'm on the East Coast, NYC to be exact. I'm alway been a Big West Coast fan since N.W.A era,Deathrow era, i think the west is having the same problem as the east.Too many local haters. Until we figure that out, The south gonna be on top for a minute, they doing good music and they spread the love to eachother. E-40 drop a hot single and dudes from his area was hating on him..where's the love people?
the user 'Truth' is a punk bitch, talkin shit about them OG's. man nobody wanna hear dem new niggas like Jibbs and Bow Wow. they dont know how to rap. man talkin about ur chain and mickey mouse is way washed up. fuck the new cats and the south is just pure garbage. WEST SIDE TILL WE DIE. got respect for my brothers up in the EAST too. but fuck lil jon jibbs chingy buck etc. fuck thatttt
its all about the classics. these niggas have no right to step in the game without payin homage to older niggas who built the game. much love for them
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