SOHH LEFT COAST
Classic West Coast Beef: The Hobo vs. Hiero
Posted on September 27, 2006 2:10 AM
Beef seems to be just about the only thing to grab fans' (and Stans') attention these days, but one of the most classic battles in West Coast hip hop took place over ten years ago between two bay area crews who’ve nearly disappeared in the time since the battle went down. But it looks like a couple of them are looking to stage comebacks.
It was 1994, and rising tensions between members of two oakland crews, HIeroglyphics -- which boasted a mostly all-star roster of talent, including Casual, Souls Of Mischief (A-Plus, Phesto, Opio and Tajai), Domino and burnout extraordinaire Del Tha Funkee and Hobo Junction -- which was comprised of Saafir (who some of you know as Cousin Harold from "Menace 2 Society") and a stable of lesser-knowns, including Big Nous, JZ, Poke Martian, Eyecue, Rashinel, Mahasin (although The Whoridas joined up a little bit later and actually got some shine for “Whoridin,’” “Taxin’,” and “Sittin’ On Da Dock of Da bay”) -- finally came to a head. Saafir, Casual and Tajai all agreed to appear on the "Sway and Tech’s Wake Up Show" on KMEL for a live on-air battle.
Although the battle went on for way too long (about 12 long-ass minutes, total) and turned into the kind of half-assed, tired slugfest you see at the end of a 12-round bout, the Saafir Vs. Casual and Tajai battle is still widely considered to be a classic moment in hip hop, largely due to Saafir’s annihilation of two opponents early on in the battle. If a transcript is available ANYWHERE on the net, I can’t find it (I spent like two hours today searching for that shit...), but anybody who ever heard it can still remember Saafir busting Tajai out about how he hangs with “wing dings named Buffy and Brad, who talk like this: ‘That’s Rad! Let’s go Surfing!’” While the transcripts to what went down that day don’t seem to be available, the whole ordeal can be heard on the "Best Of The Wake Up Show Vol. 2."
I interviewed Casual about three years ago, and when I asked how the beef all started, he explained that after Saafir dropped a verse on the track “Some Shit” off of Casual’s debut LP, Fear Itself, the agreement was that Casual would return the favor by dropping a verse on Saafir’s joint, Box Car Sessions. As Cas recalls, he got caught up in promoting his album and couldn’t make time to the studio to drop his verse. Saafir took it personal, one thing led to another, and the "Wake Up Show" battle came about.
Where are they now?
In the years after Fear Itself dropped, Casual put out He Think He Raw (which sucked) in 2001, and Casual Presents: Smash Rockwell (which didn’t suck) in 2005. He appeared on two Hiero albums (Third Eye Vision in 1997 and Full Circle in 2003), the 2nd Handsome Boy Modeling School album and has a ridiculous track with Del on the NBA 2K6 soundtrack. Casual’s style changed a lot, and while his Fear itself -era shit was dope, his new shit is way harder.
Tajai appeared on the aforementioned Hiero albums, two Souls Of Mischief albums (No Man’s Land and Trilogy: Conflict, Climax and Resolution ) and released a solo album titled Power Movement. He also collaborated on a couple of albums with some guy I’ve never heard of named Supreme Ex and had a bit part in Benjamin Morgan’s 2004 film, "Quality Of Life."
After Box Car Sessions, Saafir released Trigonometry in 1997 under the name Mr. No No, and then released The Hit List in ‘99, which was a commercial flop, and alienated many of the fans who had stuck with him through the previous album. He appeared on a few Hobo Junction albums (The Black Album was a classic before Jigga's shit), was on the verge of releasing the ill fated Golden State Project album with Xzibit and Ras Kass, guest starred on a couple of TV shows ("Living Single", "The Guardian" and "CSI: Miami") and did some straight to video shit with Mr. Short Khop and that Marc 7 nerd from Jurassic 5 called Sweet Potato Pie. His first new album 7 years (finally), Good Game: The Transition is set to drop Oct. 31st on ABB records. The tracks I’ve heard so far are pretty fucking dope.
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Im 1st bitch!
all i got from all this is ... ?
By the way .. which is the best all time hip hop film? ...
Waist Deep and Get Rich and Die Tryin totally sucked ...
Im thinking ... Colors and Menace II Society
Damn...I gotta cosign....Souls of Mischief were dope as fuck!!
Even Ye was on life n rhymes talking bout he'll be bangin that souls of mischief joint....
i was such a shortie then n they reminded me of a bigger more rugged TCQ...
PAMOJA!!!
Yo my people, you can get the audio AND the lyrics to that battle here:
www.tubgirl.com
This is streamed so it might be a little hard to hear!
Peace,
Gzus
I was diggin that nigga casual flow when he came out it had to be like 93 or someshit cause I had the walkman shit on listenin to it!!! " I write raps and when nigga bite i clap cause they shit sound better now!!"
WHO CARES
UUUGHHHHHH WYO!!!!! **GUNSHOTS RINGIN OUT*** BANG BANG BANG ON ALL YOU SLOBS FROM THE BAY AREA.. FUCK YOU. HYPHY MOVEMENT? WHAT THE FUCK IS HYPHY? WYOMING BRINGIN THE REALNESS TO THE GAME FROM NOW ON.. ONCE YOU HEAR IT YOU COULD NOT TURN IT DOWN - WYOMING FIRING SQUAD MOTHERFUCKERS!!
Saafir has one of the illest voices in the game. He had this freestyle where he was like "I'm a general in this/with the gift/ To Make your bitch swallow my minerals and shit." Glad he's coming back.
IM SOHH LEFT COAST!! THIS BLOG IS TRASH.. I KNOW U CAN COME WITH A BETTER TOPIC THAN SOME HIERO VS. HOBO JUNCTION BEEF!! REAL TALK HOMIE.. REPRESENT US RIGHT!! HIERO OR HOBO AINT NEVER REALLY MADE ANY NOISE.. BUT YEAH, THEY DID THEIR THING.. NI99AZ IN THE HOOD WASNT EVEN RIDIN THAT. SAN QUINN WILL GIVE EM ALL A RUN FOR THE $$$. REAL TALK. WHORIDAS HAD A FEW CUTZ.
The Souls & Del always killed trackx. Del actually did a song on The Gorillaz first album that was dope. These niggaz were so slept on, but then again they were on Jive. They put all their hiphop promotion into Tribe. 93' Til Infinity.......CLASSIC. Del got classic verses too. Oakland Blackouts..ya'll niggaz don't know about that real!
Righ on for bringing back the classic to the youngesters out here. alot of people even from the town dont know who hiero or hobo are. i had forgot myself about that wake up show battle. saffir is tight and so are hiero, the have been in the game for hella long and are gettin their dough, maybe not commerical success but that are gettin it, and that just shows that u dont have to make it big to get dough, u just gotta stay on the grind cause this is life we living. to all the haters FUCK YALL
E.S.O.P. East Oakland Side Pimping
By the way .. which is the best all time hip hop film? ...
Waist Deep and Get Rich and Die Tryin totally sucked ...
None of theses sre hiphop movies white boy!!!!
by the way this blog is by far the wackst yet man fuck that hit me up and ill give you some blog topics
yeah come on with somethin betta than this. they were koo. damn how bout quik vs mc eiht or somethin
"ain't no emcees hurtin me/ matter of fact u work for me" - oakland blackouts was the ish
yeah Del has always been one of my favorites, we get the best of all regions here in the Chi
never effed wit Saafir except when he rhymed wit Xz and Ras Kass.
"They rush the stage full throttle in Chicago/ our brains interlock while fake emcees get caught witta 40 bottle/ get they chain snatched pronto/ we unstoppable droppin flows in Toronto/ maneuverin thru Vancouver and on to Japan/ where they put major grands in our hands..."
{hiero fan still}
Any one read the new XXL with Game on the cover let me give you some Quotes
"i wish 50 would just leave me alone"
"I havent talk to dre in like 4-5 months"
there was a point between the documentary and devils advocate that i didnt want to live no more but all i did was look at my son if it wasnt for him i wouldnt be here right now.
Game Over !!!!!
unfortunaely I copped thAt mr nono awhile back by saafir ABSOLUTE GARBAGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!! to date I can't remember one cut off of it!!!ALl I remember is it was garbage BACK THEN!!!! I'm actually still mad about my 12 dollars what he outta do with his latest offering is offer it free to anyone that wants to turn in his old CD back to him, otherwise fool me once shame on you fool me twice........well you can't fool me twice
WELL HEY ATLEAST THE GAME FUCKET LLOYD BLANKS MONEY UP,HE AINT GOING TO BE SELLING NO TIME SOoN,SO BY THE END OF THE YEAR BLANKS ALL PROBABLY BE BROKE AND WHANT TO START HIS OWN LABEL JUST TO GET OUT OF GUNIT HAHAHAHHHHHHHA SAME FOR YUNG BUCK
Producers
Dr. Dre - Just Blaze - Cool and Dre - Scott Storch - Nu Jerzey Devil - JR Rotem - Kanye West - will.i.am - Reefa
Confirmed Tracks :
“It’s Okay (One Blood)” (featuring Junior Reid) (Produced by Reefa)
“Strip Club (Let’s Ride)” (Produced by Scott Storch)
“Devil’s Song” (Produced by Jonathan Rotem)
“Stop” (Produced by Cool and Dre)
“Street Ryders” (featuring Nas) (Produced by Cool and Dre)
“Lay You Down” (featuring Mary J Blige) (Produced by Cool and Dre)
“Wouldn’t Get Far” (Produced by Kanye West)
“Compton” (Produced By Will.i.am)
More tracks from The Game’s upcoming album “The Doctors Advocate” Confirmed tracks and producers.
“It’s Okay (One Blood)” (feat. Junior Reid) (Produced by Reefa) (samples Junior Reid’s Reggae track, “One Blood”)
The Doctor’s Advocate” (Produced by JR Rotem)
“Street Ryders” (Feat. Nas) (Produced by Cool and Dre)
“People” (Feat. Mary J. Blige and Juice) (Produced by Cool and Dre)
“Stop” (Produced by Cool and Dre)
“Strip Club” (Produced by Scott Storch)
“Untitled” (Feat. Fergie) (Produced by Will.i.am)
“Untitled” (Feat. Marsha of Floetry & Nas) (Produced by Just Blaze)
“Untitled” (Feat. Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg) (Produced By Dr. Dre)
“Untitled” (Produced By Will.i.am)
DOJA's new xxl interview - read homie
The stress would be enough to break anybody beef with 50. Family feuds. Label changes. And could there really be an album called The Doctor's Advocate with no beats from Dre? Against All Odds, The DOJA says he's gonna win.
Man Up.
Words Kawan Ari
"I got to a certain point in my life where I felt like I was about to commit suicide."
Sometimes the DOJA is just too much to bear. Over the past couple yars, Jayceon "The DOJA" Taylor has carried a lot on his shoulders. He's gone through a lot of changes and dealt with more drama than anyone would want to. "It wasn't so fun being me no more," says the 26-year-old father of one. "All the chips was stacked up against a nigga. My back was against the wall. I felt like I was alone. I felt like it was me against the world."
Pretty much since his double-platinum debt, The Documentary, came out on G-Unit/Aftermath/Interscope Records in early 2005, The DOJA has been under pressure. Having refused to take sides in 50 Cent's rap beefs, the Compton-born rapper was very publicly dismissed from the G-Unit camp (and 50 claimed to have written the hooks for more than a third of the songs on The Documentary). Later, just months after a joint press conference supposedly signaled detente, DOJA declared an all-out war against his ex-crew. Then he saw his own California-based WACC WALL STREET organization dwindle from 50-strong to seven, with the most notable defection being his older brother, Big Fase 100, who took to the Internet with claims that DOJA abandoned him after achieving success (success, Big Fase pointed out, that was due in part to street cred borrowed from him). Now there's talk that DOJA may have lost his spot on Dr. Dre's Aftermath label and that Dre, a fellow Compton native and DOJA's musical mentor, won't be producing any tracks on his next album -- the same album DOJA has dubbed The Doctor's Advocate.
Whether or not Dre's drums will grace its grooves (and we'll get to that in just a few), the album boasts an all-star list of collaborators: Scott Storch, Nas, Kanye West, Tha Dogg Pound, Busta Rhymes, the Black Eyed Peas' will.i.am, Mary J. Blige, Just Blaze, and Cool & Dre. DOJA's keeping the highly anticipated music top secret -- and the tracks stay on his computer's hard drive, and no CD copies exist. The lead single, "It's Okay (One Blood)," though, has already been burning up late-summer radio waves.
Meanwhile, DOJA's been forging new artistic alliances -- Young Jeezy, who gets a shout-out on "One Blood"; the imprisoned rapper Shyne; even a former sworn enemy, Ja Rule -- and focusing on the Phoenix, Ariz., rapper Juice, who's set to be the first artist on WACC WALL STREET Records. (He's looking for for a distributor and says he expects at least $50 million from anyone bringing contracts to the table).
So suicidal thoughts are a thing of DOJA's past. And so is that so-heavily-criticized butterfly tattoo he got on his cheek last year -- it's been replaced by a symbol of hometown pride. "I crawled up out of the fuckin' corner," he says, settling in to talk after a photo shoot at the famed Hollywood lounge the Dresden Room. "Stood back on my muthafuckin' two feet and poked my chest out. I had to come back for the fuckin' crown. I'm from L.A. I'm the face of L.A., so I put L.A. on my face."
Let's start with the "One Blood" joint. I noticed the first thing you say on the record is that you see "dead people..."
[Laughs.] Everybody wanna know about that line, man. What I'm sayin', basically, is that everybody who counted me out -- every MC that ever thought he was better than me, every nigga out there that ever thought that he could beat me in this hip-hop shit, every nigga out there that ever thought that my career was dead and I wasn't comin' back -- I'm about to body all them niggas, man. I'm about to body hip-hop. When this new album drop, The Doctor's Advocate, every rapper int he world is gettin' bodied. I'm not takin' no shorts on this one, man. Im not takin' no prisoners. I'm not bein' nobody's friend. I'ma make my music, and I'ma kill niggas. So when I say, "I see dead people..." Hip-hop is dead, man. All these niggas is dead. I'm comin' for everybody. I feel like 'Pac right now, in my heart. My ambition to win is so deep now, my passion for the sport of hip-hop is so deep now, that I feel like I could damn near cry, man. I worked so muthafuckin' hard on this album, put my heart into this album, that when I think about all the shit that happened, all the hurdles and obstacles I had to go through to get this muthafuckin' album out, a nigga could drop a tear, man.
The album title: The Doctor's Advocate. You have said in the past that you and Dre had a father-son relationship, a teacher-pupil relationship. But it seems like that relationship has changed, at least as far as your working relationship. There's talk that Dre did not work on the new album and that you are no longer on Aftermath, that you've been shipped over to Geffen. What's the status right now?
The status is that me and 50 have chose to part ways. And along those lines, there's a lot of things shaking up. Honestly -- I'ma keep it 100% real -- I don't know who I'm signed to... I just know that Interscope and Geffen are both fighting over what label imprint is gonna be on the back of the album. But the G-Unit label is not gonna be on the back of the album. You might see the Aftermath logo on the back; you might see an Interscope on the back, you might not. You definitely gonna see WACC WALL STREET on the back though... And on this album, I already been in the studio with Dre on this album. I got beats from Dre early, early. I worked with Dre early on this album.
So there are new Dre beats on there?
Yeah. Stuff that Dre did, that I had in the beginning of working on this album. Can't nobody take that away from me, man.
When did you get the news that your label situation was changing and that there was a possibility that you might not be on Aftermath?
When I started going against the grain and doing what Dre told me not to -- respond to 50. Once I did, I kind of felt like I betrayed Dr. Dre. But, you know, it ain't no love lost. I had to do what I had to do to keep my career afloat. Now, do I regret what I did as far as beefing with G-Unit? No! Because now I feel like I'm a free man and I can stand on my own. Dre executive produced the last album, but on The Doctor's Advocate, you flip the album cover, it's gonna say, "Executive produced by The DOJA." So that mean if this album goes down as a classic, then muthafuckas gonna have to give me my respect. Because I went in and wrote, penned, spit and packaged another classic album without 50.
The beef between you and G-Unit is well documented. There was a real clash of egos and philosophies with you and 50 Cent. You didn't want to get involved in some of the beefs he had with people like NaS, Fat Joe and Jadakiss. Then you got kicked out of the camp. And then it was really on.
What was I suppose to do, go sit in the corner and cry? No. I didn't do that. I had my back against the wall, man, and I came out punchin'.
At the 2005 Summer Jam concert in New York, when you brought out the G-Unot campaign, with the guys in gorilla and rat suits, this in effect broke a truce you and 50 had agreed to months earlier. What were you thinking the morning after?
I was thinking it was me against the world. I didn't give a fuck about what nobody said. I didn't give a fuck about nobody's ideas. I can honestly say that I was in the same state of mind of Tupac, probably, before he got killed. I was so far gone that, now that I look back on it, I really was playin' with my life at that point. But the crazy part about that is that I didn't give a fuck. I didn't care, man, 'cause I was fightin' for my family and my son.
With Dre being the label CEO -- the big brother, in a sense -- to both you and 50, why hasn't he been more vocal in the whole situation? At least publicly. We don't know what's being said behind the scenes, but from the outside, it seems like once everything popped off, Dre just sort of wiped his hands of everything.
I can't answer a question for Dre; I can only be responsible for myself. As far as Dre, I couldn't do anything but respect him. Dre signed me, gave me the opportunity to make millions of dollars, which I have. All I can do is be thankful towards Dre. At the same time, you can't take that personal, because this is a business. Is it Dre's responsibility to get in between two men when, you know, it's a real hip-hop war? I almost felt like the Biggie and 'Pac shit was 'bout to come back full circle...
Dre reached out to me on numerous occassions. And I'm pretty sure he did the same thing to 50. I got a few phone calls from Dre about stopping the beef and talking to 50, but I'm hardheaded. I do me. I do what I want to do, man... Now, I didn't hear the conversations he had with 50, but I'm pretty sure they were the same. Dre wanted it to end. [Interscope chief] Jimmy Iovine wanted it to end. But when you look at the aftermath of the shit, you can pretty much figure out what happened: I didn't listen to Dre, and neither did 50. We both grown men. We're gonna make our own decisions. The best decision we think suits us. We made a decision to go to war. And we're at a stage now where it's dead. Nothing else can be gained on either part. We already made it big as it could be. Neither one of us is dead yet. So what we gonna keep on goin' for? The people are getting tired of it.
If I could say one thing to 50 himself, I would just tell that nigga. Stop it, man, and leave me alone. I'm just tryna to feed my son. Tryna keep my homies tight, you know what I'm sayin'? Keep Compton on the map and keep the West Coast afloat. So any nigga out there that's just tryna beef with me, and, you know, you don't even know me or you don't even know the core of why you mad at me -- just leave me alone. I'm out here, man. I ain't fuckin' with nobody.
What about Dre? When's the last time you and Dre talked?
I talked to Dre maybe about three, four months ago. I went into the studio when he was finishing the Busta record and played him some of my joints. He went nuts. He talked about coming in at the end of [the recording process] and working on more joints with me.
Dre always told me -- and you can quote me on this -- "Fuck what people say in the streets. Fuck what they sayin' behind closed doors." Me and him are always gonna be the same way that we left each other. So if we left each other, then that's what it is. But if we left each other and we gave each other a pound and a pat on the back and hugs and said, Alright, my nigga, then that's what it is until the next time we see each other. That's something that he told me that touched me, "Don't believe none of the hoopla, none of the bullshit. DOJA and Dre is always the same as the last time that DOJA and Dre seen each other." And I felt like that was one hunnid.
How about Big Fase? What's the status with you and your brother right now? When you came out, y'all were damn near inseparable.
Man, it's like, I ain't gon' waste too much time on that, man. But I'ma just say my brother has done and said some things about me since, you know, the whole fallout. And right now, how I feel, I don't got no brother. And we can move on to the next subject, 'cause I feel so disrespected. That's the only comment that I got. I feel like I'm out here by myself, dawg. And because me and my brother fell out, that don't mean I fall off, you know what I'm sayin'? And that's another reason I grinded, man. So many people turned they backs on me, I had to step it up. I had to do it for me. I had to do it for my son. Had to do it for my niggas that's still ridin' with me. I had to do it for my fans. Had to do it for niggas that really appreciate and really love hip-hop. And, you know, I'm a one-man record machine.
And what's up with you and Ja Rule? People are going to be shocked to hear that you two are cool. You used to yell that Ja and the whole Murder Inc. label could suck your dick during your shows. Rumor even has it that you two did a joint together?
I wouldn't mind doing a joint with Ja. It ain't like I gotta be scared to say, Oh, I'm doin' a joint with Ja. But I done hollered at Ja one the phone, and he done gave me love and respect for what I did as far as holdin' myself down against the Unit. I done hollered at Irv. Murder Inc. and WACC WALL STREET done squashed their beef that they had back in the day. Me and Ja, we might get in and do 10 records, if that's what he feel like and that's what I feel like I want to do, you know what I'm sayin'? It's all love, man. I don't give a fuck what people think about Ja. If I fuck with him, I fuck with him. And when I fuck with him, everybody else is gonna fuck with him.
How did the conversation come about, when you deaded the beef?
At the Grammys, Irv came up to me. I was kind of shocked. I be on my guard, man. Irv came up to me. He came to me with his hand out. A Black man come at me with his hand out, what I'ma do, turn away? I shook his hand, man. He told me thanks for what I did. "Me and Ja just wanna thank you for what you did." And, "Let's get money." So I already knew what that meant. It's another beef that I can diminish. Ain't gotta worry about lookin' over my shoulder this way or that way. That's all it is when you beefin'. Nigga can't even sleep safe at night 'less you holdin' a gun, 'less you holdin' your finger on the trigger when you go to sleep. And then don't do that too many nights. You have a bad dream, you blow your brains out.
If you think about it, we all businessmen. Ain't nobody too muthafuckin' gangsta, 'cause aint nobody John Gotti, and ain't nobody Al Capone, and ain't nobody Tookie Williams. Ain't none of these niggas -- ain't nobody in hip-hop, myself included -- 'bout to go knock on the penitentiary door and say, Give me that lethal injection. I'm 26 years old, man, and I'm the most potent voice in hip-hop right now. The most powerful voice. It's due to all my struggles, my hard times, my admiration for the DOJA and my ambition. It ain't about no beef. It's about me and my fans and making good music.
It's been so crazy for you since your last album came out. How did you keep your focus to record this new one?
It's been crazy. That's why I felt real compelled. When you fucked-up in the head, you write the best songs. You write some of your best songs when you're hurt man, and I was down. That's one thing that I can say. I was at a point between the first album and this album. I was at a point where I kinda felt like I wanted to kill myself.
Are you serious, homie? Really?
Dead serious, man. And the only thing that saved me was my little boy. 'Cause you know, other than that, I didn't have nothing to live for. I don't even care what happens to me. But my kid, man. That's my son. That's my twin... I love that dude so much, man.
That's deep. And then what rejuvenated you artistically, to where you wanted to keep your career going and be the top guy in the DOJA?
The rap DOJA got so bad, man. I felt like the only nigga that could save hip-hop. I mean really save hip-hop. Hip-hop! I couldn't let it die. People don't understand this hip-hop -- this ain't big chains, big cars and big titties. Nigga, this is hip-hop. I'm a child of hip-hop, which means if I'm gonna be one of the best MCs that ever lived, or one of the greatest rappers alive, I gotta keep hip-hop alive for the next nigga alive. It ain't about me. It ain't about me, because none of the top niggas in the world -- the Malcolm Xs, the Nelson Mandelas, the Martin Luther Kings -- them niggas wasn't out there doing that shit for them.
I love my life. I love my son. I love my family, and I wanna live, man. And I love hip-hop. And this is what I want to do.
THIS IS WHY GAME IS A BITCH TALK ABOUT CHANGE OF HEART...
K.OLA WIGGER U A HOMO U MUST BE A SNITCH CAUSE NIGGAS IN NEW YORK AINT FELLIN GUNIT AND THE HEAD RAT A.K.A )SAM THE BULL), U MUST NOT NO WHAT GOES ON IN THE STREETS CAUSE U TO BUSY GANGBANGIN ON THE INTERNET FUCKIN GOOF JUS LIKE 50 WONT COME OUT,LAST TIME I CHECKED 50 STILL RATED SUPREME AND THIS NIGGA 50 DOIN A WAR MOVIE? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WIT U HOMIE IF 50 HAD ANY STREET REP AFTER GAME KILLED HIM IT JUST WENT OUT THE WINDOW FUCKIN SNITCH DOIN WAR MOVIES AND R&B AND U DISSIN ON GAME DONT FORGET THE VIDEO GAME AND GAY PORNO. DAMN CHANGE UR HEREO CAUSE THE SKIRTS UP BITCH FUCK NEW YORK WIGGER ALL THE REAL NEW YORK NIGGAS NO WAT UP FUCK THESE SNITCHIN ASS FAGETS GGGGGGGGGGUNOT FUCK SUPERMAN GUNIT SOLDIER AND NEW YORK WIGGER AND U DOWN WIT 50 THEN FUCK U TOO
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People are always so quick to knock down someone who's just being a real person instead of "keepin' it gangsta". Props to game, just speaking from the heart right there, and that's the way human beings should be. Don't FRONT!
Wyoming whatever: Before you can clown an area the one you come from has to have an claim to fame, hell even an identity. Its hilarious taht you are even talking you fruitloop.
Hiero all the way,
DEl is one of the most original minds in hip hop and even though his songs can get wierd sometimes hes dope.
LOL Wyoming be coming hard haha what the fuck is wyoming,go grow some corn and tip some cows you stupid bitch.
Also K.OLA great CUT and PASTE skills I really needed to read that entire fuckin interview especially because it has nothing to do with the topic,
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"two bay area crews who’ve nearly disappeared in the time since the battle went down."
Once agian SOHH is out of touch. This blog is trash.
Hieroglyphics has never gone anywhere since that battle. They may not be on the radio or video outlets but they outsell many over hyped payolla rappers.
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Since Third Eye Vision, they've sold 100,000's of albums INDEPENDANTLY with major distribution. Also they own a huge compound in West Oakland that manufactures and ships thier own merchandise. They tour the world as equal owners of thier own label selling out shows form Oakland to Aukland.
So while your favorite rapper lies about his lifestyle sells 3 million records and cries that he got jerked (Chingy) There are some cats that keep it true to the artform and are making real moves in this business...
Shout out to Saafir he's back in the game and he's about to hit you e-thugs in the head with some real shit!
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