Rhymefest

Hip-Hop's Blue Collar Spitter

What a Woman Wants (SHAKE THAT ASS, BITCH!).

As always, I must begin by thanking everyone who faithfully reads these entries. However, I would like to inform you that this will be the first of my last three blogs. I'm starting work on my new album which should be due mid-Spring 2007 entitled EL CHE. Your encouragement, comments, suggestions and sometimes overly-exaggerated critiques have all played a part in helping me grow as an artist, as well as a human being.

Today's blog is called What a Woman Wants (SHAKE THAT ASS, BITCH!).

I recently completed a concert tour which spanned from L.A. to Santa Barbara to San Francisco. Because of my fondness for the West Coast countryside landscape, I encouraged my team to drop our expensive plane tickets, rent a van and do it the old-school, Rock & Roll way: you know, hop your ass in the van and hit the road. Because of our limited CD selection, I wanted to save the good ones (Kingdom Come, Doctor's Advocate & The Blue Carpet Treatment) for when the local radio transmissions ended and the cell phone calls dropped. So, I always opt to listen to commercial radio first, especially when I'm in different regions of the country. It's one of my personal ways of monitoring what the constant trends are across the spectrum of Hip-Hop.

As I turned the dial to the first station, I heard a giggly female voice request the E-40 and T-Pain song "U and Dat." If you're not familiar, this is the song where T-Pain and E-40 try their best to convince a girl that they want to get her and that monkey (whatever you interpret that monkey as being). As the seductive, bass-pounding groove progressed, a feminine voice added to the chorus concerning that mysterious "monkey," suggesting that if these two men captured the monkey, they wouldn't know what to do with it or how to handle it. As the radio announcer returned, he exclaimed "Ooh Wee! That song was for all of the chicks with them phat monkeys!" As the next song punched in, it was Fergie from The Black-Eyed Peas with her single "London Bridge", where in some of her lyrics she says:

"I'm such a lady but I'm dancing like a ho Because you know what, I don't give a fuck So here we go!"

These two songs [back-to-back] coupled with the fervor of women who continued to call into the station and praise the DJ for playing "they shit" sent me spiraling into one of my deep, analytical thoughts. IMPORTANT NOTE: this blog is not intended to criticize those songs. In fact, on my debut album BLUE COLLAR, I have a song relaying a similar sentiment called "Stick." What is even more interesting is that at least 85% of the women I encounter along my travels are quick to tell me that "Stick" was their favorite song on my album. Mind you, this is a song where I say "I put my dick all around your mouth like lip gloss," suggesting that this is the reason why the girl should 'put it on my stick' (whatever you interpret the "stick" as being LOL!). Today's blog is more of a question. I would like to know your opinions on why it seems that women as a whole [on one hand] criticize rappers with misogynistic attitudes and lyrics but never question their own taste in music?

These are the facts: commercial radio is mostly driven by its female listenership (ages 12-25). It is suggested to us that they [women] request the majority of the music that is played (i.e. especially music with sexually explicit lyrics). This is also evident every time I go to the club and a song like David Banner's "Play"comes on. Women's asses seem to start moving involuntarily, even though he's blatantly telling the girl he wants to see her 'get that pussy wet.' (See below). David Banner also admitted to this song being his biggest hit next to his song with Lil' Flip entitled "Like a Pimp."

It's starting to seem like the rappers are not doing anything wrong; they are simply supplying the demand made by scores of women of all races, ages and backgrounds. It seems as though, because of this demand, there are not many alternative songs with similar grooves minus the sexually explicit lyrics. I repeat: I ain't hating. I'm just asking, Why?

Talk to me...


Comments

  • souljahj says...
  • Amen! i feel el che lol hmm i guess they cant fight the urge 2shake to a gud beat..i think lyrics come second for women

  • November 20, 2006 11:16 AM
  • Truth 24/7 says...
  • To answer that question, we have to go back to what music is all about...dancing, and what is dancing....interpretative intercourse. Dancing is the closest thing to sex besides dry humping!!!

    While guys come to the clubs primarily to get pussy, women come to dance with their girls....They love music with sensual lyrics because it lets them feel sexy without actually having sex (or maybe have sex a bit later in the evening)!!!!!

  • November 20, 2006 11:20 AM
  • answerD says...
  • yeah u already know, bitches is getting more whored out by the day! remember what chris rock said on hbo. "He aint talking about me"

  • November 20, 2006 11:25 AM
  • Animate says...
  • Man, Rhymefest I have really enjoyed your blogs. A great change of pace from the hate that is usually spewed on this site.

  • November 20, 2006 11:46 AM
  • N I V says...
  • Well Rhymefest. I'm sad to hear that your leaving us after just 2 more blogs.
    As far as my opinion. With girls its all about the music man. It just happens to be those sorts of sexual songs are over beats that women can dance too....long as its catchy and the beat can make them move...they don't give a sh*t what its about...I know tons of girls who will recite Fergie's Lyrics...but doesn't mean there London Brige will actually "go down"...its just catchy to them....bottom line....and thats the formula that sells hip hop music...I"m not gonna front ..you need that kinda stuff once in a while...i only wish there was more of a balance...and that these same girls also respected conscious hip hop..but they honestly don't give two shits..its all about the music...dats it..

  • November 20, 2006 12:09 PM
  • C tha 1 says...
  • Honestly, its the beat. It almost confuses them. I may sound a bit sexist by saying this, but many women regardless of race, creed, education level will shake they're ass to the most mind numbing songs simply because of the beat. Why? Well Cindy Lauper said it best, "Girls just want to have fun". And fun in many ways equals dancing. When have you ever seen a woman dancing with a sad face (unless she is trapped dancing to a dude she doesn't like). Otherwise dancing is a emotrional release mechanism for women, and for some odd reason the dumber the lyrics, the tighter the beat.

  • November 20, 2006 12:55 PM
  • thatdude613 says...
  • good point it kind of reminds me of the bit Chris Rock was talking about when he was saying in the clubs you will see some women who will shake their ass to the most degrading song as long as the beats hot " smack em with the dick smack em with the dick" lol you know

  • November 20, 2006 01:30 PM
  • Bird says...
  • I think it is a combination of youth and a good beat. Like many people have said already a lot of us ladies like the dance tracks and if the beat is slamming we don't care what the words are. Of course once you get a certain age that ish gets real old. For me it happened young because my baby daddy was singing along to my Snoop tape one day and told me his favorite song was "Bitches Ain't Shit." Snoop ain't seen a penny from my ass since. Doctor's Advocate is the first rap CD I have bought since Doggystyle. It's not all good like the young ladies might lead you to think.

  • November 20, 2006 01:55 PM
  • A Woman's Perspective says...
  • I am not "tricked" by beats and honestly...the women who dance to those songs are mindless tricks raised in daddyless homes who lack self respect. I am turned off by all rappers on the TVT roster (Ying Yang, Lil John, Pitbull) because they obviously talk about women like absolute shit. The thing I don't understand is how women could say they don't like Khia or Jackie-O since they are "nasty" but they'd run to purchase an album to listen to some dude rap about bustin in their eye. Women have contributed to the demise of the female rapper. Women can't get any respect.

    BTW rap doesn't sell the way it used to anymore since may self respective females have boycotted and would rather spend out $10 on lipstick and other things that are more important that these rap niggas. I'm glad my daughters listen to Hanna Montana etc. Hip-Hop has nothing for them.

  • November 20, 2006 02:08 PM
  • Bird says...
  • I'm glad my daughters listen to Hanna Montana etc. Hip-Hop has nothing for them.

    November 20, 2006 02:08 PM

    Co-sign sista girl. My daughter had that on TVO before she got on punishment. She went to a Panic at the Disco concert a couple of weeks ago. lol

  • November 20, 2006 02:24 PM
  • cmon homie says...
  • Word son, this little 3 paragraphs ios taking that much out of your day that you finished after 2 more blogs??? Damn you must be in like ddep concentration for like 6 hours before you touch the keyboard.....or could it be u realized that only like 12 poeple are reading your sh*t a day and that's about half as many people that bought your album, so somebody got in your ear like YO HOMEBOY let that SOHH go and get ya black ass in the studio before your next joint goes triple BALSA.

  • November 20, 2006 02:29 PM
  • Taraji says...
  • Truth is now the quickest way to make a quick buck in today's music scene is dumb your lyrics down to the corniest, horniest nasy thing you can think ofd and you prbabbly have a hit.
    look at fergalicious, london bridge, my humps , laffy taffy . today's radio listeners or teeny boppers give them a good beat a catchy chorus and hook and mumble your way through the verses and it's a hit it's just a formula that is almost always guaranteed to work. will jay-Z's song anything from Kingdom Come be a hit.OO Yes.

  • November 20, 2006 02:31 PM
  • Lowedwn says...
  • Amen! i feel el che lol hmm i guess they cant fight the urge 2shake to a gud beat..i think lyrics come second for women


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I completely agree, I have never met a female...NEVER...that doesn't get up a start dancing like a fool when Snoop's "Ain't No Fun" come on, and that's from L.A. to Spain w/ it.

  • November 20, 2006 03:20 PM
  • again says...
  • This is completely my opinion. Whenever someone goes to the club they will base their experience off of whether they got play or not. Most of the play for everyone comes when the booty hop music comes on and both guys and ladies now this. As soon as a nig here Ying Yang voice he will immediately roam the dance floor hoping to catch a stray (female by herself or look willing to dance even though with freinds). As soon as a girl here the song her and her friends will jet to the floor and start poppin booty getting sweated from niggaz left and right just staring either hoping somebody (mr. right) will dance with them or they just love the sexual attention. Be real who don't like to get play and sexual attention thats where your best club memories come from.

  • November 20, 2006 04:20 PM
  • UNKNOWN says...
  • go to myspace/unknown@streetstructure.com

  • November 20, 2006 04:27 PM
  • TRACK LACER says...
  • LOWEST COMMON DEMONINATOR, mayne = "sex"

    What is the one topic a comedican can touch on with an adult audience that everyone in attendance can relate to? ...........="sex"

    Its universal. We just need to think of more creative ways to talk about it...instead of AKON saying..."I wanna fuck youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. fuck you. You already knooooooooooooow".

    How long did it take him to think of that line, muthafucka???

    ps- RHYMEFEST...and everybody else reading this? click on my MySpace link and download my songs on there for free *gone*

  • November 20, 2006 05:42 PM
  • Mr. Untamed says...
  • This piece of shit Michael Richards (Kramer from Seinfeld) went on a racial tirade when he got angry at some Black folks while performing at the laugh factory over the weekend

    Copy and paste the link below to see this bullshit!!!!!

    http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=1&pmmsid=1772645

    HERE'S WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT US!!!!!!

  • November 20, 2006 06:08 PM
  • Hosti says...
  • I believe Mr Richards was very ignorant and stupid for those
    comments. No matter what the crowd member did, that was uncalled for.

    It, was not the fact that he said nigger but, the fact the he
    CALLED someone a nigger.

    he was trying to be funny and it backfired.

  • November 20, 2006 06:38 PM
  • stan says...
  • who is this 'they'? i thought it was one white guy who said that shit? btw black people are really racist too, in case you AINT KNOW! seriously, playing the race card always plays into the dealers hand...

  • November 20, 2006 11:15 PM
  • Bwilliams says...
  • I would say one big reason is fame and celebrity. Since these men are on TV and o the radio, that makes them and the things they say attractive to alot of women. Whereas if a regular brotha like myself, said those things to a woman I might get cussed out, chastised, call a misogynist, or perhaps even slapped....Just another double standard where both sides lose

  • November 21, 2006 12:41 AM
  • K Dizzle says...
  • I feel ya BWilliams its a huge double standard. I dont care how anybody takes this but it just seems like so many sistas today are walking contradictions. I hear over and over again women saying I just want to find a good man. Huh, thats the biggest lie in the world. Once a woman gets a brotha that is nice to her and treats her like a queen she shits on him and either gets a nigga with lots of money who got a million woman and treats her like shit. Or option B. she finds a nigga who aint about shit, no job, no car, nothing and takes care of his ass and moves him in the house within a week. Oh and dont forget if these niggas hit her she will love them even more. So am I surprised that these woman that want all this respect get on the dancefloor when MC Bigdick comes on and raps about how he wants to bust in a hoes mouth. Hell NOOOO!

  • November 21, 2006 01:16 AM
  • TRuthSeeker says...
  • Fest are you concerned with nameing your next album "El Che" with rappers like Pit Bull sayin "all these so called black nationalist better not come around me with all that Che shit"? by the way most females from the ages of 12-25 are not concerned about lyrics. Actually most rap fans don't care about lyrics which is the reason why a Coon like JIm Jones is number 6 on the billboard charts.

  • November 21, 2006 03:52 AM
  • Kelico says...
  • I've been a reader of this blog, but I just haven't posted. I hope you can keep it going, maybe after the album. Your blog is enlightening. Me being a female, we love to dance, it is a release. However, it's the beat the attracts me, not the lyrics. In the privacy of my own home I'd probably dance (never been clubbing), but I don't support the message. I don't call in and request it or even buy albums. I'll start dancing, then when they say something vulgar it changes my whole mood. If rappers took the vulgarity towards females out and started calling them baby or some or term of endearment then women would listen even more. If anybody's really to blame it would be the video chicks and the groupies. That's what these rappers see on the daily so it's normal for them to incorporate that. However, normal and expected don't make it right.

  • November 21, 2006 08:58 AM
  • Kelico says...
  • TruthSeeker:
    I don't even know how women get caught up in that game. There are so many good brothers out there, but they want the thug. I'm a woman and even I've been guilty of this one time. I hate when women label a good man as "nice" guy. And don't give him a chance. I'm 20 and I've learned and now I'm happy, but some women don't learn at all. It think it's because to some women "thug" means you have to be hard and that equals strength and being "nice" equals weakness. Sometimes women are confused, sometimes.

  • November 21, 2006 09:05 AM
  • The Dude says...
  • Well,

    I think its's obvious.....It's a Mans World.

    Black Women are portrayed as no more than big booty, sex crazed whores by the media. It seems like Black Men will do ANYTHING to be accepted by White Folks, that includes SELLING OUT their own people. Subsequently, Black Women do anything they can to be loved and accepted by their Men, that includes degrading themselves for our attention.

    I found it easiest for me to break down social issues such as the one being posed in this blog by breaking it down to a smaller arena such as a Father, Daughter relationship, or even something like working in an office with other co-workers.

  • November 21, 2006 09:34 AM
  • Kelico says...
  • And another thing, I don't dance around my dad. Rarely dance in public and when I do it's always tactful.

  • November 21, 2006 01:46 PM
  • again says...
  • Why is it so wrong that a girl wants a thug. I think society is built off being cut throat anyway whether your hustlin on the corner or hustlin in the corporation in the end us poor folk always get screwed while the middle class never see it. I'm gonna be real the middle and upper class black people could give a rats ass what happens to us, they just watch from the looking glass and relate but they can't. That's why rappers are gonna make music and get money based on whatever moves people. Too Short never wanted to rap about pimpin and shit but his conscious music never sold and the other stuff did so hey. Some of us in society are just set up for failure anyway so sometimes I can't blame what people do, it's just the way it is get bread.

  • November 21, 2006 02:29 PM
  • Candice says...
  • If a guy says to me "drop it like its hot" or "shake that ass bitch" He's gonna get slapped upside his head and put in jail by me...

  • November 21, 2006 05:01 PM
  • The art of respect says...
  • The art in music is the beat,tempo and the way a person say a particular thing. It has nothing to do with just because i like the stick version i am a whore. I like the beat. That has nothing to do with me identifing my self as a whore. It has more to do with me liking the song. It does not get any deeper than that. Maybe I like the stick version because it put me in a place for a second that i am not normally in. You have a very good point but you must remember whores like love songs tooo.

  • November 21, 2006 05:04 PM
  • Candice says...
  • First of all..I don't like songs by David Banner or any songs that suggest for a female to be a whore....I think its a disgrace on both parts..the men and women need to change their lyrics..and the females need to stop thinking that trash is something cute..I think it depends on how certain people are raised..I don't see video girls as role models..I see them as prostitutes..and the male rappers I see them as Pimps or Johns...A pimp to me has never been a good thing...I think there needs to be more positivity in our music these days...and in our videos..Its gotten way out of hand

  • November 21, 2006 05:12 PM
  • J-lu says...

  • To Again..

    Thug Lovin’ is . . .

    1. Temporary and unrealistic – what kind of future does this provide?

    2. Violent because thugs must show they will “ride” to their deaths

    3. Sexist and Misogynistic – the disregard, devaluation and disrespect or hatred of women

    4. Dysfunctional – you cannot build a wholesome, loving and mutually beneficial relationship for men or women celebrating it

    5. Not Agape Love - Love that is spiritual, not sexual, in its nature.

    6. Cute until you gotta call the police and get a restraining order on him.

    7. Narcissistic - Excessive love or admiration of oneself; A psychological condition characterized by self-preoccupation, lack of empathy, and unconscious deficits in self-esteem.

    8. Hedonistic - The doctrine holding that behavior is motivated by the desire for pleasure and the avoidance of pain.

    9. Incredibly selfish – thugs love the idea of themselves.

    10. Stupid- thugs like these usually end up in jail or dead.

    11. Something that’ll get you stabbed, shot or hurt in some other way.

    12. Absent any vision for the future like a mortgage plan or retirement.

    13. Conspicuous consumption – buying things to flaunt how wealthy you think you are to the public (like Bentley’s, ice, tennis shoes & jewels).

    14. Absent any commitment to kids or family – thugs don’t really care.

    15. Ahistorical – When our ancestors were forbidden from professing their love through marriage because they were slaves, they created their own traditions based on African ones and “jumped the broom” to celebrate their love no matter what “master” told them to do or not do.

    16. Absent any commitment to uplifting community because that’s what “squares” do and why would anyone want to live in a world that isn’t dominated by thugs who sell drugs and pimp women?

    17. Something that’s currently feeding the prison industrial complex and warehousing Black and Latino men and women at enormous rates, making the number of two million in prison the highest in the world.

    18. Something that stupid women hold onto as a sign of “protection”.

    19. Something that stupid men hold onto as a sign of “strength”.

    20. One reason why Biggie and Tupac are dead.

    21. FRONTIN’ – The reality is that no human being just wants sex, drugs or cash. And especially not us.

  • November 21, 2006 05:26 PM
  • <a href= says...
  • I was listening to 'we can make it better' off of late registration and it made me want to contribute to this blog.
    1st: its a shame you're ending this blog. I read it and its a breath of fresh air in the polluted hip hop/ journalism game. In any case, if you're music reaches the masses faster, complete your mission.

    2nd: to talk about women dancing to songs with derogatory terms referenced to them, the problem I believe is society is becoming less and less liberal. We have women becoming more empowered through their speech and actions and the power balance is shifting from men over to women. One result is the word 'bitch' is a word without negative connotation. (If you don't believe me, go to miami).

    3rd: what was the last song that came out that saluted women that wasn't sexually based? Keepin ya head up? Dear mama? (R.I.P. Pac.) Hey mama? (kanye)
    Would you dance to it if u heard it in the clubs? And that question wasn't for the men is was for the ladies? If women dance, the men always will.

    4th: what rapper would show his sensitive side and that he respects women? How is that gonna sell records? What does that say about his image?

    5th. Gangsta rap has assimilated into the thought process of modern rap and the image of hip hop. Drug dealing in early hip hop represented the struggle of people in inner city america who felt they had to do these things to survive. Now its the prerequisite for recording a record. So now every rapper has a nwa mentality (I like nwa, especially their version of 'express yourself')

    which record is the 2006 fuck the police? Riding dirty (chamillionare)? {By the way ridin is a hot song, cham is a nice lyricist. If you don't believe download up your speed
    (rmx)}
    What is the modern day self destruction record? Xclan record? Fight the power record?
    Are any of your answers popular records?

    The point I'm making is that their used to be a balance where learning was combined with fun. Black empowerment was fun and entertaining. Now they're called 'concious rappers'. Lol. Flavor flav was a concious hypeman which most kids today probably don't know.

    There's a generational gap of people that didn't have that understanding of hip hop as it pertained to black identity. As it became a global phenomenon we get
    6th: corporations are fucking hip hop up. Conglomerates are making regional hip hop national and we have the same 12 records being played coast to coast instead of people having their own sound and style. Grassroots artists can't blow and the same stale sound gets regurgitated. In order for other artists to get on the radio, they have to sound like the next man. And the 1st man has to sound like the hip hop formula, the ex drug dealing pimp who has tons of cash who raps for the hell of it because they have the block.
    Dead prez tried to reach the masses and they didn't fail. It takes the proper time, place, and capacity for people to comprehend change and the need for it. It starts with women dancing to shit they feel is disrespectful but it ends with self empowerment, something black america doesn't have. We traded in our Africa medallions for 'bling' and unfortunately the unty and revolution we worked so hard to build has dissipated for a spot on mtv cribs.
    I believe it starts with people waking up out the matrix. My question to you, Mr. Che, what part will you play?

    (To answer my own question, 'vato' by snoop is a 'we're all the same gang'. Which is applaudable)

    Harlem stand up!!!!! 138,39 and lenox. Paterson stand up

  • November 21, 2006 08:00 PM
  • king jaffey joe says...
  • Most women dont care about how they are perceived or looked at by others. For some strange reason they think that being loud, ghetto, and 10,000 other words is sexy, cute , and attractive. Unfortunately it aint. These girls in the south is a trip. They just dont care. Its ridiculous and Im sure its like that everywhere in the country. Holla Back.

    Rhymefest, u got the battle on tape between u and Eminem?

  • November 21, 2006 08:23 PM
  • again says...
  • To J-lu

    I totally understand the circumstance of my life, but at the end of the day I can't control my environment it control me. I know that I won't benefit from buying me a $1200 dollar Al Wissam jacket or $800 Mauri's, but thats just the way it is in my hood. I live in a place called Delray Detroit, it was labeled 1 of the 10 poorest places to live in America. Nobody in my neighborhood even got a computer, I typing this from my brother room in college, this is where I go to get away. When you see stupid shit everyday like my neighbor getting her head knocked the fuck off with a sledge hammer after being raped at 78 years old, how can you not think to yourself,"Damn today might be my last". Nobody in my hood sell drugs cause they want to, they do it to buy groceries, we don't got no jobs, we all tried promise, they just not here. On top of that many important figures in Congress and other agencies be coming to our hood asking for the hook up whatever that may be (Role Models). I'm not gonna starve, been homeless already, naw I'm gonna go get money the only way society set me up to do. I know this is straying away from the topic but sometimes you got to start with the basics like where these rappers from probably from the same neighborhood as me. So is the women, lifes not to deep, just sex, drugs, and death and sometimes just sometimes you might get some hope but rarely, you don't have time to think deep thoughts, all you can think is just live another day.

  • November 21, 2006 09:39 PM
  • J-lu says...
  • To again...I respect your circumstances, but my post was to explain how bad thug love can be...but people live their life how they want to, and I say you do it your way.

  • November 21, 2006 10:53 PM
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  • November 22, 2006 05:53 AM
  • Truth says...
  • Much better... Here is where the revolution begins. It's all in our own distorted thought process... Women have been totally degraded... A lot of them are at the level where these words don't offend them. The beat does count for alot... But if Kramer said those word he said to a good beat, we wouldn't over look it. Because it OFFENDS most of us... We gotta help bring our women back to their respected self. Then our children will be raised by women of high moral character. Anyone who makes these songs knowingly for the $ is no different than a pimp who puts women on the corner... Anyone who uses these songs to get a girl hot to hit it... Is just hiting the "pimp's hoes". And God keeps count.

  • November 22, 2006 10:26 AM
  • suckmydik.com says...
  • again says...
    Why is it so wrong that a girl wants a thug. I think society is built off being cut throat anyway whether your hustlin on the corner or hustlin in the corporation in the end us poor folk always get screwed while the middle class never see it. I'm gonna be real the middle and upper class black people could give a rats ass what happens to us, they just watch from the looking glass and relate but they can't. That's why rappers are gonna make music and get money based on whatever moves people. Too Short never wanted to rap about pimpin and shit but his conscious music never sold and the other stuff did so hey. Some of us in society are just set up for failure anyway so sometimes I can't blame what people do, it's just the way it is get bread.


    Um ok that was the dumbest thing i have ever read. How could you write, and I quote " I'm gonna be real the middle and upper class black people could give a rats ass what happens to us, they just watch from the looking glass and relate but they can't."

    Like do you know what you are even saying. How can middle and upper class black people not relate. Because they have made it does not mean that they have not been in the same predicament or worse then you have been. Not all but most middle blass black people went out and worked for what they got. So in someways they can relate. What they can't relate to is people like you who blame other people for their misfortunes.You say, "Oh its the white man's fault, they holding us down.Or" Oh I didn't get the same chances or opportunities that other people had." Like you and people like you are the reason why middle and upper class black people don't give a shit about you. I'm a student at Georgetown University in Washington DC. I am black. My mother=Poor. Father=poor. I probably had no more opportunities that most kids in the hood had. I used my mind as the tool to get me out. My parents couldn't pay for school and i wanted to go to school, so I knew my mind would be my tool to pay for school. Well its now my senior year, I'm about to graduate, and i'll be headed to Wall Street. Yeah i could have been like you and sulked and wondered why things were this way. But no I got up and went out and got mine. B/C no one is gonna give you anything and nobody owes you anything. You remember that next time you make a dumb ass comment like that.


  • November 22, 2006 10:33 AM
  • The Dude says...
  • All these Black People talikg about "The Revolution is comming" cracks me up. It's like people are sitting around waiting for something to happen doing the same bullshit they have been doing, contributing to the ignorance and exploitation of Black People.

    Millions of Black People tune into BET or any other channel for that matter everyday and get bombarded by 100's of negative portrayals of their own people everyday and think nothing of it. While these recording artists claim they are "keeping it real" they have no idea or maybe they just don't care that they are dissillusioning the youth and basically behaving like a bunch of Uncle Tom House Niggers....NIGGERS!!

    They think that by dedicating one fucking song to something worth while and meaningful they are doing something positive. Meanwhile the rest of their catalog consists of degrading women, drugs, and all of lifes other guilty pleasures.

    I am NO SAINT by any means but I am sick of these fucking rappers rationalizing their "messages". If people in general want positive change then FUCKING CHANGE!!! Until then just shut the fuck up!!! Seriously, what the fuck is it going to take for us to realize that "you reap what you sow".

    Does anyone else see this as a "no brainer" the way I do????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • November 22, 2006 11:03 AM
  • Sam C. says...
  • I'd like to hear a females answer but I've noticed this as well. Many females don't care for deep, thoughtful or introspective lyrics.. they're like ok.. but give me something I can shake my butt too! Like that Akon song 'smack that'... wow girls go crazy when the hear that...and similar songs. They seem to only be interested in love or party songs. Women? Comments?

  • November 22, 2006 12:08 PM
  • em says...
  • sam c.-
    truth is, girls love songs that talk positive about them. or ones that at least DON'T talk bad about them. look at how successful the little r&b boys are these days. you'll never hear chris brown, omarion, ne-yo, even bow wow call a woman a bitch. and the girls go crazy for them. but then look at these rappers that call women bitches and hoes. they might dance to their records at the club but they don't get the same love.

    as a female, i have bought rappers' CDs that call women some less than flattering terms. although the only rap CD i've bought that came out this year was T.I.'s, because i am getting fed up with it. but the thing with someone like T.I. is, there is way more to his music than just saying a few words i don't like. you'd never catch me buying a Ying Yang Twins or Pitbull CD, because there's nothing BUT degradation.

    hope that cleared some stuff up lol.

  • November 22, 2006 01:30 PM
  • Truth 24/7 says...
  • Niggas in white tees...niggas with big chains and shiny things... the story of our lives. I hate D4L and em so much...remember when people became rappers because they were eloquent speakers with insight and deep thought...now all we got is dudes who can barley spit correct syllables ....the hooks are tight and the simple enough for bitches (applies to dudes and girls) to lean and rock, or walk it out to....FOOLS ALL OF US...FOOLS...

  • November 22, 2006 02:33 PM
  • HipHopEst1984 says...
  • It's funny how these dudes get on this blog and try to play my dude Fest. I guess since he's not rapping about the hundreds of bricks he sells a day he must be wack. When In my opinion his album and Lupe's album are top 5 of the year. And if your going to diss him why don't you fucking cowards use your real name instead of making up some Homo ass name. Oh and FYI they know it's you because your IP address from your computer doesn't change. Just a word from the wise for you dumb fucks. So use any name you want. Your still going to be a coward. But to answer you question Fest, I don't know if that's the way females are (Confusing as hell). Females confuse the hell out of me. I know I'm not alone on that one. Maybe they just love the beats and don't pay really LISTEN!! to the lyrics. I think femaes will dance to it because they don't care. When we meaning men and women go out to the club it's to have fun. Whether your just there to have a ouple drinks and kick it with your friends to have a good time. Or there to cut up some rug. I think it all just comes down to dancing and just having fun. Now their are probably some females who do like that type of shit. Who do like to get disrespted and be called bitches and Ho's. To each his own. But it may be both sides of the story. You have those ladies who are there just dance and then you have those are the subjects of these songs. Hey these rappers have to get their stories from somewhere right....LOL!!

  • November 22, 2006 03:56 PM
  • getitright says...
  • young girls just want something to dance to. you can say anything stupid on a track as long as it has a lil jon beat or something, the ladies will get up and do the damn thing. its funny though b/c now a lot of young niggaz have been actin the same way, doin the same thing. musically i see no hope for the future

  • November 22, 2006 06:14 PM
  • sukmydick.com says...
  • Yo fuck boy who died and made you judge. I was waiting for rhymefests album since like February when I think it was supposed to come out. It kept getting pushed back and pushed back. Then when it came out, I was disappointed. Not b/c the nigga wasn't talking about bricks and chains. But b/c the album was totally wack. Nigga Ye' came out with a classic his first time. I ain't saying his album was going to be a classic, but i was expecting more from Rhymefest. O this the nigga that co-wrote jesus walks, who battled Em, who blah blah blah. Yo his album was disappointing. It had 1 single, a couple of ok songs, and the rest was wack. The niggas shit sounded forced. It was wack and if it wasn't wack his shit would have sold. You don't need marketing to sell that well nigga. If you know anything about business, the best marketing is Word of Mouth. SMH. Get over it buddy try better next time. Hey well atleast there won't be such thing as a sophmore jinx. Pretty soon you will be next to the Young Gunz. Put it Put it Put it on my stick. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK

  • November 22, 2006 07:54 PM
  • JoeRipps says...
  • ahhh.....i remember wen i was 16 and i was trying to get w/ this chick. shorty was a virgin and would barely let me play w/ her titties but wen that ahkaneli(spellcheck) song "put in in your mouth" best believe she knew all the lyrics. i remember thinking this bitch doesn't even know what she singing. won't even let me get her pants off but she'll say "put it in my mouth, in my motherfuckin mouth...". that shit pissed me off. anyways, i feel they are programmed...just like we're programmed to like ll this watered dwn thug shit. peace

  • November 24, 2006 05:31 AM
  • J-roc says...
  • women are the reason they say hip hop is dead cause they support and buy all the mindless bullshit.

  • November 24, 2006 03:40 PM
  • AllwomenRhos says...
  • Girls are idiots. They say don't call them a bitch or a ho and start dancing to songs addressing them as hos and bitches. Their excuse is that their boo 'nelly' or whatever rapper isn't talking to them, rappers are only addressing women when they have nice things to say like in songs called 'keep ya head up'. "Oh pac is talking to me!!!" or "21 questions, u know 50 iz talking to me right!!!!"....yet they say "You know "bitches aint shit" wasn't talking bout me!!!!"....Sluts.

  • November 24, 2006 06:03 PM
  • deepdickcollective says...
  • I like you rhymefest keep repping for the down low brothas out there.

  • November 24, 2006 11:57 PM
  • speedy1 says...
  • Fuck rhymefest,all bitches are hoes everywher

  • November 25, 2006 12:34 PM
  • t says...
  • RHYMEFEST WHO?

  • November 26, 2006 04:57 AM
  • HollyHood says...
  • What it iz 'fest?! What I've observed and heard from females is they just wanna have fun they listen 2 the beat 1st then the they might listen 2 the lyrics. A lot of times they never interpet the lyrics just recite them when "their song" is on. A girl really wanna shake her ass and a nigga tell them over a good beat is more than enuff motiavtion!!!!1

  • November 26, 2006 09:14 AM
  • Charlie White says...
  • Hitler said, "Get the women, and the children and men will follow". Since this is the stance, then what do women want. I can't call it because we are 2 parts of one being. Some women crave attention (no matter what kind it is) and there are women who go with the flow (if her girls are bouncing then she will). No every woman is entered into this group but as a collective, groups follow the resounding trend. America feels itself to be a moral authority. I left from the US for 6 years and when I came back.....things done changed. We always flirted with the perverse side but now it is blatant. Really kids shouldn't be watching the TV with the content that is on now but....follow the trend.

  • November 26, 2006 02:38 PM
  • J-lu says...
  • It's like this..it doesn't matter about the lyrics to some women that dance to a particular song..it's the beat. The beat itself has a magnetizing effect on these women to dancing in a sexual way. However, the nightclub is for letting out inhibitions, so that's was the music does.

    As far a thug love is concern, to those that believe it, be warned that it can cause major consequences as I listed before. I'm in my 20's, not an intellectual saying this. Thug love is abusive, and its harmful effects can and will last for years after an abusive relationship built upon thug love. To my ladies, especially my black women, please leave these fake thugs alone, and love and cherish the good black men that are before you...all you have to do is lift the blindfold of your eyes and see the men that you placed in the 'friend zone' who are your kings.

  • November 26, 2006 03:07 PM
  • BONUS says...
  • Yo Fest, your album was tight, some songs were fillers but for the most part your album had concepts. I would like to see you do something with Common in the fUture. Your song Sista had tight verses and a tight beat, stick with that same concept on every song. Always remember the golden rule, Hip Hop started on people spitting over very good dance drum tracks/songs. You got all the lyrical talent you need, make sure those beats are crisp, danceable, and bangin. That;s the biggest mistake good mc's miss out on, they cant pick good beats to save their life.. If you cant have an whole album tight, have at least 4-5 certfied bangers that are club friendly. Diversify your fan base with a latino collaboration on a dope latino infuenced dance beat. Peace, I live in the midwest but I'm originally from the illadelph, at age 35, I've ssen it all from Grandmaster Flash to ACTQ to PE to Dr. Dre to Luke to Ghetto Boyz to this current B@llshit albums people make nowadays and wonder why we download

  • November 27, 2006 01:09 AM
  • RESURRECT says...
  • DUDE PLEASE, I CAN'T EVEN LISTEN TO THE DAMN RADIO ANYMORE BECAUSE I HAVE DAUGHTERS. SO I MISS OUT ON ALL THE SHOWS AND PROMOTIONS AND SHIT THAT BIG BOY GIVES OUT, BECAUSE I CAN NOT STOMACH THE SHIT ANYMORE! BUT DUDE COME ON NOW, DO NOT PUT THAT SHIT ON WOMEN!! DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TOPIC CAN BE RAPPED OR SUNG ABOUT?? BILLIONS OF TOPICS. SO WHEN I TURN ON THE RADIO AND HEAR BACK TO BACK SONES SAYING THE SAME SHIT, LIKE THESE JIGGAS JUST GOT OUT OF PRISON AND AINT HAD NO ASS IN 15 YEARS, I KNOW THAT SHIT AINT MY FAULT. I MEAN DAMN, U AND THAT, SMACK THAT, IT'S NOT LOVE(DON'T GET IT TWISTED) WTF??? THEY ARE RIGHT! IT SURE IN THE HELL AINT LOVE. THESE JIGGAS DON'T EVEN LOVE THEMSELVES SO I KNOW DAMN WELL AIN'T NO LOVE FOR WOMEN. OR AS SNOOP PUT IT "WE DON'T LOVE THEM HOES"

  • November 28, 2006 09:33 PM

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