I attended a screening of BET's Hip-Hop Vs. America mini-series last night (September 24).
Shot in Los Angeles a day after the BET Awards, the three part mini-series examines hip-hop and it's impact on America, especially the African American community, post the Don Imus controversy.

Jeff Johnson, Nelly, Michael Eric Dyson & T.I.
Hosted by Toure and [Cousin] Jeff Johnson, the series featured panelists like Nelly, T.I., NY Daily News Columnist Stanley Crouch , Mike Jones,
Reverend Al Sharpton, Karrine Steffans, Melyssa Ford, Author/Director Nelson George, BET.com Executive Editor Kim Osorio, former Essence Magazine Editor Dianne Weathers, Chuck D and Michael Eric Dyson among others.
The first episode mainly dwelled on artistic accountability with Dyson, Nelly, T.I. and Weathers providing the most tense moment of the discussion. I must say Dyson has to be the most well spoken person on earth. The cultural critic also provided a few of the first episode's highlights when he quoted Biggie's "Hypnotized," bigged up his Detroit roots by shouting, "West Side" and claimed to be a P.I.M.P. Dude talked so fast that I missed his spin on the acronym. I do know the "I" stood for intellectual.

T.I.
The screening was hilarious, but more importantly it allowed different perspectives to be heard on the issue. The screening was followed by a Q&A in which attendees commented, questioned and criticized certain aspects of the series. Carlito Rodriguez, former Editor-In-Chief at the Source Magazine, pointed out that artists on the panel were allowed to make excuses without being challenged. I agree. But that's a whole nother blog entry. Perhaps we shall revisit it once some of you have seen it.
Tune into BET for the premiere of Hip-Hop Vs. America tonight at 8 P.M. Part. 2 is scheduled to air the following day at 8 P.M.
Comments (12)
well i loved the whole show i think that they eah argured nicely and mad a point so know im doing a research paper on it
Posted by yesenia | October 1, 2007 10:15 AM
Posted on October 1, 2007 10:15
I loved the debate, it was funny to me. some things. but overall it was good i watched both shows i havent seen the third show yet. Mr. Dyson i want to be in your class in college!
love__riah
Posted by Mariah | October 8, 2007 11:00 AM
Posted on October 8, 2007 11:00
The show was incredible. I especially loved Nelly he was incredible. And everything he said is right on point.He was really good on that show.
Posted by esther | October 9, 2007 1:38 PM
Posted on October 9, 2007 13:38
I think that this is something that has been happing in hip hop for a minute now and people just need to get over what is in lyrics, Its just words if u don't want your kids to listen to rap then don't let them listen!!!!!!
Posted by Laquetta Buchanan | October 10, 2007 10:51 AM
Posted on October 10, 2007 10:51
I disagree. Check out a longer comment at http://www.vibe.com/blog/babar/2007/10/hiphopvsamerica.html
Posted by MB | October 10, 2007 4:03 PM
Posted on October 10, 2007 16:03
Nelly is Smart, TI is funy.
Posted by N | October 11, 2007 1:01 AM
Posted on October 11, 2007 01:01
Dr. Michael Eric Dyson is an inspiration for higher education. I am a 12th grade student who is not sure what I want to do in life, but i do Know that I want to inspire people. He has inspired me to desire a stronger vocabulary. I was in a transe when I listened to him. I just thought I'd share that with you, but I,m in school so I have got to go.
Posted by gabby williams | October 16, 2007 2:18 PM
Posted on October 16, 2007 14:18
Thats was a nice show, It showed how hip-hop artist are not just about money, girls, and jewelery. shout out to TI Nelly Mike Jones and Mellysa Ford
Posted by William Peters | October 17, 2007 1:40 PM
Posted on October 17, 2007 13:40
Who's got my mic?
WILL YOU DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION? OR IS AMERICA FOR SALE?
While watching, Meet the Press, Bill Cosby made a comment stating "If you don't live for something, we will end up dying from anything." I am an African American. I feel as though my husband is one of the hardest working men in American. He is an iron worker. He does not miss a day of work. Through schooling, he is now able to provide our family with a decent income. A blessing that affords me the opportunity to be a work-at-home mom and to pursue a higher education. I need it. My grammar is horrible. Being at home with our younger children, allows me to read more and watch more news. Our country is facing civil unrest at this moment. My husband and I debate. He is more the Malcolm X figure. He believes justice does not come about without revolt. I am more the Martin Luther King Jr. type. I have a vision so clearly, and all we need to do is petition our government.
This is discrimination that affects every American. To prove discrimination, first, you must prove either the statement or the action taken against you. Second, you must prove how it affects you. This statement was pointed directly to black people and it violates my constitutional rights. Not only do we have the right to vote. It cannot be used against us. Your vote is you political voice. This is a violation of the 1st Amendment. It is not racism. It is discrimination. This is the first right our country was founded upon. Any individuals in government that violates any right, are unfit to hold their position. We must have people in office with common decency. People who will promote the general welfare of this country. That is Democracy. I, my husband, and our sons were born on American soil. These rights may not have been written for us, but they apply to us. I cannot allow any individual in government the power to violate our rights. George Bush is quoted in saying, "Blacks didn't come out for me like the Hispanics, so they're not gonna see much help from me." This is found in his authorized biography/ autobiography, DEAD CERTAIN, on page 46. Dead certain, funny, that's ironic. Second, the evidence of how that statement today, affects every American. Look on the flip side of that statement, what do you get when you support President Bush. Alphonso Jackson, who is a black man, received government funds for contracts to help Katrina victims. A supporter of Bush, who is now under investigation. A contractor states Jackson told him, paraphrasing, why would you get this contract you don't support Bush? Next, Roland E. Arnall, a major contributor to the Bush campaign. He is now the US Ambassador to the Netherlands nominated by George Bush. Ameriquest Mortgage, Arnall being CEO of, has a Multistate Settlement. A $295 million Settlement Fund has been established to provide restitution payments to certain Ameriquest borrowers; Ameriquest and other affiliated companies had engaged in various unlawful mortgage lending practices. Sub-prime lending is our economic crunch right now.
How many crony companies will benefit in his administration? How many of these companies are going to be investigated and found to be crooked? How many government funds are misappropriated to these crony companies. How many military contracts? In this book, on page 196, it says "The media-they just don't pay attention to the facts they way they used to." These companies show up on your radar in misdealing or they just don't simply do their job. How much money will be pocketed off of America's back? Better yet, how do I address my eleven year old son, who gets an assignment from school to watch the news with your parents, and it provokes questions on why? "Why do oil companies get to make all this money when you can grow and regrow corn? Why can't a hospital help those who are sick? Why are we really at war? Mama, why can't we sell other countries what we have in our country that they need or want? Why can't we buy something from that country or we build something in that country? Everyone can make money." All from the eyes of a child. I am not saying one person can do all these things, but with people, with integrity these things will happen. The innocence of our children; they know race does not matter. They will play all day. The one they dislike is the one who wronged them. It is not until they are introduced to discrimination does race play a factor. Our children need role models, and a certain standard in life. This will cause true diplomacy to work. I have heard George Bush reference God calling him to the presidency. I feel as though that is true. It allows us set a precedent in the highest, elected office of our government that this type of individual will not be tolerated. It is slave-owner mentality to only profit. AMERICA, WE ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO BE WORKING FOR THE PRESIDENT. HE WORKS FOR YOU, AND HE NEEDS TO BE FIRED!!!!!!!!! These companies are just like the President. They act like they don't know what's going on. Until, they take or make all the money. Then they pass the accountability. Consequently, AMERICA, IT IS US THAT PAYS THE BILL. IF YOU WANT YOUR CHILDREN TO STOP ALL THIS NONSENSE. YOU BETTER SHOW THEM WHAT RESPONSIBILITY LOOKS LIKE. SHOW THEM WHAT IMMORAL AND CRIMINAL CONDUCT WILL GET YOU. DISGRACE AND MUCH MORE. NOT THAT IT BENEFITS. ESPECIALLY, OFF THE ANGUISH OF ANOTHER OR THE MISFORTUNE. No one is perfect. Before, we all came to this melting pot, there were good and bad people in every race. But there is a standard. When the Constitution was mastered, there was a vision of equality and standards. Later, because one thing more than any, it was unprofitable for the black man to be equal. The administration in power that discriminated, changed the law. It took another DREAM to reinstate that vision of equality. George Bush currently has the power to veto and pass laws. To understand ones character. You look at their action and to whom one associates.
In every stage of a Oppression Black America has Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A President, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a discriminator, is unfit to PRESIDE over a FREE people.
"We, the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, "promote the general welfare", and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"
Let's hold these individuals accountable. If not, our children will pay the price. In every race I've been fortunate enough to meet; all want better for their children. Let's demand better and do better for them. We can build our country and others with billions of dollars and still profit. I have ideas that will not only help global warming, it will help international relations by two countries benefiting. Ideas that can end the Iraqi war in a year, and America will profit as well as Iraqi citizens. The only military you need is to insure progress. People won't fight you. They will fight with you. Every nationality is proud of their heritage. They just want to take advantage of the opportunities afforded under the Constitution. Instead of building a fence to keep Mexicans out, create job opportunities in their country. While America profits and so can Mexico. I am talking about real technology that has already been developed. It just takes real people to spend the money on it. This is utilizing international business. Not taking people's jobs because labor is cheaper, because a person who does not work most likely won't buy house. Nor does a person who is rich need a mortgage. This is not a game. There are real people dying. Last time I heard, the military equipment, billions are being spent on are poorly constructed. Are these tax or indebted dollars going to crony companies? Are they cutting corners to profit? Are we not getting specialists, because we are getting friendships. Friendships that pay. Honestly, President Bush, I personally didn't vote for you, because I don't have the money to buy you. I never felt you qualified. In that statement, you proved it. America is it money over credentials?
To Black America, America was built from your free labor. Your are the epitome of the American dream. To come from nothing and through oppression, we still make our way. It is time to stop making our way and take our rights. Big business gets paid more to incarcerate you than to help educate you and maybe to hire you. You say you won't work for free, but in the long run. Hummm? For 3 hots and a cot, 5 to 20, you will. Black man you better understand you are a commodity-1. anything useful or that can be turned to commercial or other advantage; convenience; profit; expediency. "Kings break faith upon commodity" (Shakespeare). Not only are your constitutional rights being violated, but your GOD GIVEN RIGHTS. Your are entitled to GOD's nature. The Black Panther Party formed, when Black America said, I will no longer live under these conditions. What is a life to live. When you can't truly live it. We were born on American soil. So we are entitled to these rights. The Black Panther Party creators believed in the Constitution. We have the right to bear arms. No one is going to come into my home, business, community and/or church and violate me or my family. Black people we can march on every injustice, but if we don't address these individuals in government. It will never make the difference that we are looking for. I don't need reparations, just justice in 2007. Demand your rights black people. When will we ever again in our lifetime have such an opportunity? When will we ever find anyone dumb enough to say something of this magnitude? If we all stood up for our rights, on my word as a God-fearing individual this man will be removed from office. An example will be set for the next President. I AM TALKING ABOUT A VISION LIKE GOD TELLING NOAH TO BUILD AN ARK. THERE HAS BEEN TSUNAMIS OR HURRICANES BEFORE WE KNEW WHAT TO CALL 'EM. Believe and be of good courage. God will divide an inheritance to whom he promised your forefathers. God provides all your needs. Here in America, there is agriculture, labor, the technology, energy, and most importantly the right to think freely. This is factual information. If I am wrong I implore the President and America to prove me wrong. It is better to be judged by 12 than to be discriminated on by six. What if he said the middle-class didn't come out for like the upper-class, so they are not gonna see much help for me?
Corruption in any person, organization, race, group, and country corrupts absolutely. Absolutely because those who don't know you. Can see you through corruption. Corruption makes world wide news. The few destroy many. The literal meaning of jihad is: The struggle of good over evil in ones self. In the Qu'ran, its states if you are a true believer of God, any Christian can call themselves a Muslim, and every Muslim a Christian. It has been religion's representatives that has distorted the truth throughout history. Those in power who didn't have common decency. Don't let democracy continue to be distorted. Throughout history, every nation's money, coin or whatever you want to call it, represented itself. It makes me think of "In God We Trust". America's way to represent itself. On the idea, with Democracy and the Constitution, our money should always be in safe hands. EVERYONE TAKE OUT A, QUARTER, DIME, NICKLE AND PENNY. THE SILVER COINS ARE FACING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE PENNY. WHEN LINCOLN FREED SLAVES. IT WAS UNFAVORABLE FOR A DISCRIMINATING ADMINISTRATION SO THEY TURNED THEIR BACK TO HIM. LOOK AT YOUR PERSONAL VIEW ON A PENNY. WHEN YOU SEE ONE YOU MIGHT PICK IT UP. BUT, WHEN YOU NEED IT YOU WILL PICK IT UP. AS THE WORLD TURNS THAT PENNY REPRENTS OUR CHILDREN. IF NOT ALREADY.
When you see a penny pick it up, If on heads it will be good luck!
A penny is always two sided. You ALWAYS can flip it!
Your Fellow American, Andrea
P.S. Just think of Bill Cosby as Healthcliff Huxstable. That father figure that would say, "Watch, what you are doing? I don't like who you hang around with!" He did what only any good parent would do. When you want better for your children; you tell them the truth even when it hurts. A parent never truly understands the child because they are not the child. Everyone sees life through their own eyes. Wisdom comes through knowledge and experience. An experience can either be personal or you can be a witness to. A good parent warns the danger and chastises. Just like with the President, there is no correction without acknowledgment and accountability.
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THE CONSTITUTION SET AN AGE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PRESIDENCY, TO ALLOW FOR EXPERIENCE, KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE TO DEVELOP.
Posted by Andrea | October 21, 2007 9:32 AM
Posted on October 21, 2007 09:32
i enjoyed this show and i am now doing an article on this show for my journalism class and yea um ok bye =]
Posted by lolita rodriguez | October 24, 2007 4:18 PM
Posted on October 24, 2007 16:18
Part of the problem is that the older generation is telling half the story. Rev Sharpton bring up conversations he had with James Brown about Hip-Hop but never mentions that the Godfather had songs where he talks about not liking snitching and beating his girlfriend. And let's not forget that Dick Gregory had a book call NIGGER but Nas had better not think about it. Kim Osorio sat on the panel and talked at Nelly, you don't fix a issue in that matter. The "Black Leaders" should feel ashamed the pressure got turned up because of Don Imus pointed the finger at the "cultureā and in turn everyone pointed at Hip Hop. Mr. Imus is almost a hundred years old and would suggest that he was influenced by Hip Hop or anything else to say what he said, come on people. The "Black Leaders" should have kept the pressure on him, but instead they put there tail between their legs and went to eat their own. And he is preparing to get paid from CBS and get another contract from someone else. Yes Tip Drill was very raunchy but it was meant for adults and played a 3:00am, but because of this more kids may know of it now then would have if it was left alone, thanks "Black Leaders".
NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People) and you want to bury the N-word.
Posted by Coop | October 28, 2007 2:07 AM
Posted on October 28, 2007 02:07
I think this show is good. as young black people, i feel that we should know how others feel about us and our culture and entertainment. we'll see how long it actually last because of who is on the show, but i think it's great.. It's about time this topic is discuss.
Posted by Kendeshia Moran | October 30, 2007 12:11 PM
Posted on October 30, 2007 12:11