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UH-OH! KRS-ONE Turning America Against Obama

Written by SOHH Recklesss

Posted on February 5, 2009 9:45 AM

Uh-oh. Liberals, you'd better hang on to your hats. The wind is blowing hard in the East-- and the air is full of nasty rumors.

And KRS is not the first one to talk about this.

Even conservative/Republican radio is talking about the NWO, and they're vehemently dismissing those that are calling these foolish conspiracy theories. But of COURSE they wait until Obama is sworn in before they start with their sh*t. 

No. Not the NWA. The NWO. I guess you can call it the N*gga World Order. Cause according to many skeptics and pessimists who lack a belief in government, Obama is a puppet who is being used... for what? I'm not taking part in this. No comment.

I think KRS has some valid points. But! I can't call it.

What's next? A new joint with Immortal Technique, Dead Prez, and Chuck D? You know, Dead Prez dropped a joint a week before the election, called " Politrickkks," where you'll hear: "You wanna vote? Please do. Cast your ballot let your voice be heard/ But what I do wanna say is after the election you'll see-- mark my words."

I don't know man. I'm having a bad feeling. But I'm not gonna worry about no bullsh*t right now. I've got things to do.

91 Comments

3 things are certain

1. Nobody gives a fuk about KRS-One. He attention whores himself every year and no one bites. Go away niggah

2. Everybody loves Barack. So that shyt yall selling, we aint buying. Black people have a ray of hope, and we holding on to it. We are inspired so the haters can suck a dyck.

3. This is the same niggah who wasnt saying shyt for the past 8 years when Bush was pissing on people and leaving folks to drown. So all you crab in a barrell niggahs get in line for the Red Lobster buffett going down with your azzes as the main course.

Obama bytches. KRS ONE get a job!

hahaha PROPS to ATL RED

Pres. Obama can't do any worse. Mr.Bush messed that up. KRS give the MAN a chance to prove himself. Like I said he can't do no worse.

Dont worry yall, as soon as Cnn or whoever picks this up, and the spotlights on him for being a hater, he's gonna backpedal and apologize and be all "what i REALLY meant was..."

like he did that time he said blacks in nyc cheered when the towers got hit. google it. like lil homie said, he's just attention whoring, he does this yearly.

i would listen if heard anything from KRS while Bush was putting us to HELL! hes just waiting for another rapper to respond and hes back in the limelight! also im just CONFUSED!

Big-Big Up to You Reckless for posting this. I guess I have several thoughts concerning this. Let me start by citing something that I read years ago about the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and Malcolm X situation. I read that towards the end of their union that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad became very upset about Malcolm X's constant criticism of President Kennedy, particularly after Kennedy's death. President Kennedy was so popular among Black people that to kick him immediately after his death Elijah thought that was unwise for many reasons. I actually agree with him.

Now, let's face it, KRS 1 no longer has a voice. we sort of say that he does, but we really no that he doesn't, and we are being kind to a hip hop legend when we say that he does. Have these cats who sign on here couldn't give two F8cks about what Chris has to say and that is sad. Now I am not dissing him because i am a huge fan, but let's be real, he doesn't have a voice anymore. He doesn't have a platform that a 50 or Hov or Lil Wayne has, so beyond folks going to this blog and Nahright and the 150 people or so at the spot he was at, no one will hear his message. The other thing is that the mind of the people are so dull, that they want listen anyway even if he had an audience. They are more interested in what Rick Ross' broke @ss uneducated ex tack head have to say about the foolishness concerning him and 50, than they do in what I think is a very important discussion that KRS 1 would like to bring to the forefront.

Now, I hate to say it, but some of Chris' comments seemed a little self-serving. To the unconscious mind (if you can even get the unconscious mind to listen to KRS 1 ) what he said sounded deep. To the conscious mind, we are saying, "ok Chris, No Sh*t." You didn't tell us anything that a person who just read the most bacic book on Black political consciousness for his very first time could not figure out. In fact, to us, it looks like you are trying to generate interest in yourself for some other reason and that you are using this Barak Black face New World thing as the vehicle to do so. I am just being real with you, B.

What the wise warriors are doing with respect to the president is that they are not interfering with Black folks' Barak Obama euphoria. I think that that is wise. I say to Chris if he is reading this, remember the Nation of Islam's lesson entitled truth out of season. You can tell someone the truth but if you tell them the truth at the wrong time, they may actually view you as an enemy and not a friend.

You know that it is unrealistic to think that any man or woman, Black or white, could take this government in a far left socialist direction. You also understand how the branches of governmental power works, as well. Further, your analogy about Black political leaders being elected because of a mess has ensued is partially true but if this was a research study, i would say to you that you are trying to apply qualitative findings to a quantitative null hypothesis. You can't take what appears to be qualitatively true, which in your case here I don't even think you cleared that standard, I think you have something that is antidotely true, but that is beside the point. The point is that you can't take a small sample of anything and take those findings and apply it and make general comments about your misapplication to the whole. That is an intellectually corrupt proposition.

You are totally ignoring population shifts, the fast coloring of America, 8 years of one party rule, which is normally a sign of a party change and the huge Black turn out in the presidential election. Anyway, why I agree with your over assessment (although I think you could have made better connections in terms of some of the things you threw out), I think you need to be careful how you package this. I mean to hit the brother after only two weeks in office is not wise. If you are a teacher, and you are, then be patient with the students so that students don't lose confidence in your ability to teach them.

Anyway, I hope this isn't about dropping a new joint. I have madd respect for you, but if this is what this is about then I would some respect for you.

LMAOOO

I am laughing at (really with) everyone who posted and not because of what yall said but because when i started writing my long @ss post above there wasn't one comment on the board. After I posted it, I found the other bloggers' comments, who posted while i was writing.

See, if you are reading this Chris, this is what i am talking about. You keep going that road and you will become a target. This isn't wise brother. What is the upside of doing something like this. It way too soon to go and do something like that and again, you have to make an assessment of your influence. You are a 44 years old man. This isn't 1989, it is 2009, you are not the icon in this forum anymore, Wayne, 50, TI, Kanye and those cats are.

You need to walk this thing back in until the season comes for this kind of truth. Otherwise all you are going do is get dissed. Again, be patient and be fair. Your rant to most people will come off as quick fingered, biased and hateful. Relax a little, sun.

I think that people are seeing this for what it is. The problem with these modern-day "revolutionary types" is that many of them secretly yearn for the attention that a Barack Obama might get.

If Chris (KRS) had millions of listeners, then his message would be more main-stream. America is young and old, black and white, and everything in between. If you want to help ALL Americans, you can't keep beating the "I'm angry" drum.

If we focused 5% of our energy on the problem, 10% on talking about a solution, and 85% on taking action toward changing the world, we would be better off.

All of you KRS1 haters need to do your research , which you OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T. And if you do go to church at least STUDY your Bibles. They are only showing blacks on TV that are falling for the hype. That's all it is! Don't you know your history!? Do you think all of a sudden the "establishment has "changed".. Brush up on your political science folks!!! Understand global socialist agenda. If you DO believe in God you ought to KNOW there is a "conspiracy" going on. And if you don't believe , you of all people need to go back to the history books.The info is out there. You just have to want to KNOW. Staying bamboozled is your own fault!
KRS1 is doin us a favor. Think out of the box. Since when have the masses got it right?
btw , don't come back at me, cause I will give you homework, Peace.

Politcally Incorrect:

I don't think you read my post. Granted, it is long as f*ck (lol), but to recap my message in a few short words (because you didn't read what I wrote), it is not the message that I have a problem with. It is the timing and the packaging of the message. What Chris said wasn't on cutting edge. He didn't offer any new knowledge to anyone who is conscious. His message was as basic and funadalmental as it get.

If your timing is off and packaging is poor, which is the case with Chris on both accounts, you will get what you termed as hate. I term it is as poor decision making on by KRS 1. You don't teach a two year old about the Birds and the bees.

This has nothing to do about hating Chris. It has everything to do about poor strategic planning.

Chris, KRS, whatever you go by now....you are out of touch with the people, and you are out of touch with the world as it stands today. How can you ask President Obama which side he stands on...Your agenda calls for you to stand with Dr. King, Malcolm X, and The Black Panther Party. Well, as we all know, KRS just mentioned three different agendas right there....so which side is Chris standing on? Who's being the 'politician' now? Let's face it, this brotha was a great voice for the evolution of Hip-Hop...but he hasn't had the staying power of a Dr. Dre or even a LL Cool J for that matter. Nevertheless, he was a voice of the people when he did matter to Hip-Hop. Don't tarnish that image with this nonsense.

From Shan to Obama? What a reach. Once again rappers prove they'll do anything to get attention. For all his so-called consciousness I am not aware of one accomplishment by KRS that delivered TANGIBLE benefits to anyone other than himself.


I'm not saying everything he said is incorrect because even the Devil speaks the truth to help mislead you. KRS did his interview with Alex Jones who is a well known disinformation agent who also speaks selective truths but bear in mind it's not what people say that damages you it's what they leave out.


Show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are.


I'm not going in on KRS today but its sad that a guy who's first album was arguably his best and that was 23yrs ago just can't find it in himself to leave the stage gracefully. He prefers to go kicking and screaming or shucking and jiving.


Obama is no different from any other politician. He's basically a spokeman but why make that an issue when a black face gets there? This has been the case since the creation of the Federal Reserve. The man hasn't been in office 2 weeks and the self hatred is boiling. Some people can't wait to do what they do best.


KRS began his career with a crab in the barrel move and now he's trying to revive it with an encore performance of magnanimous proportion. I'm sure his interview is well received among the white racist set. If this isn't a blatant act of "Tomfoolery" then what is?


Ignore this confused brother and he will go away or better yet find a more respectable way to earn a living.

What's good SOHH the X is back. KRS 1 = Jesse Jackson

Think Of It Like This......
KRS-ONE Is Like Morpheus From "The Matrix"
He's Just Trying To Free Your Mind!
But You Closed Mind People Can't Understand!
Just Give Him A Chance And Listen!
You Will Be Enlightened!

Every Single President In History Has
Been A Puppet. Obama Is No Different!
It's Just A Face, To Control The Masses!!
Now They Need To Control A Certain Population!
So They Put A Face That
Can Control That Population! Or TRY TO!!!!!

"WAKE UP,
TAKE THAT PILLOW FROM YOUR HEAD
AND PUT A BOOK IN IT!

I bet the Klansmen down in Austin Texas where he did this interview patted him on the head when he was done and said "good boy." His acceptance among the redneck set probably gave him a sense of academic validation that hip hop could never provide for him.


When people talk about KRS' contribution to Hip Hop I'm always left scratching my head because I was there and I don't recall anything exceptional taking place unless you consider his battle with MC Shan epic. LOL! He was one of many new, hot rappers who dropped in 86, 87, and 88. Don't believe the hype.

@King Sun


What population are "they" trying to control with Obama when 62% of the people who voted for him were white?


"They" control everything regardless of who's president. When I think of KRS I don't think of Morpheus I think of a huckster or day laborer. He can't wake anybody up cause he's sleepwalking himself if he thinks pandering to the likes of Alex Jones will bring about change.


Admit it. He's looking for his next paycheck. The man has bills to pay and we know he's not selling records. What's wrong with HONEST WORK? Some people will come up with anything to get out of pulling their weight.


Read the quotes on here. Down south. Up North. Out West. He's been figured out and I hope he reads this blog today for a long overdue reality check.


Memo to KRS: You're not a teacher, philosopher, metaphysician or any of the other lofty titles you've bestowed upon yourself. You're an ENTERTAINER 20yrs past your prime and relevance. The jig is up. Find a new hustle and this ain't it.


All I see here are personal attacks on KRS One. Have any of you actually LISTENED to what he said? Can anyone criticize what he SAID (minus the ad hominem attacks)?

Most rappers are narcissistic but this is *not* about KRS showboating, it's about him sounding the alarm that we are being bamboozled and set up AGAIN. People foolishly jump on the Obama bandwagon simply because he is Black and we automatically and blindly hand our trust over to him. Why is that? KRS did not have to warn us about Bush and his administration because they were blatantly corrupt in our face! The alarm has to be rung on the Obama administration because folks are going back to sleep! His public relations machine is fierce and has hypnotized black & white alike. WAKE UP!! THE AGENDA HAS NOT CHANGED, just the front man and the technique. Ever heard of good cop bad cop? Same game in the government. The two political parties in fact have the same ultimate goals and are controlled by the same elite players.

You won't see this on your evening news but mad countries in Europe are RIOTING against the globalist agenda. American's should be doing the same given the fact that the country, economy, etc are going down the toilet, but instead we are SLEEPING and bleeting Obaaaaaaama. All I have to say about this is if you go along like sheep, prepare to be slaughtered.

I think Aaron McGruder expressed it beautifully in this excerpt from a recent press release:


"I did say I was cautiously pessimistic about Obama's Presidency - but this is simply acknowledging the reality of an American Empire that is out of control and on the verge of collapse. Let us not forget that on the eve of the election, we witnessed a near-trillion dollar robbery of the US treasury. That robbery is still taking place. I do not blame President Obama, but I do not believe the financial and corporate interests that own and control this country will fold so easily. I do not question the integrity of the man as much as the power of his office - which I believe has greatly diminished over the years. I believe the Federal Reserve Bank, the Military Industrial Complex, and the massive corporate interests that run this country have more power than our new President. I hope I am wrong."

I concur!!!

Wow, KRS!! He just got in office 2 weeks ago. He can't fix 8 years of damage in 2 weeks. Black people amaze me. It only takes 2 weeks to begin to destroy the President. KRS, go get a job. A radio show. Something. Please get off the stage.

@ ChydePark

The "damage" is deliberate and is part of the globalist agenda. Everything from the 'War on Terror' to the sinking economy. The world is currently being restructured and if you google 'new world order' you will see even mainstream publications using this language. Shoot, only 2-3 weeks ago Kissinger remarked how the mess the world is in right now offers OBAMA an excellent opportunity to usher in a New World Order. I am NOT making this up...it's a matter of public record on the internet...I believe you can even "you tube" that clip. When Obama has NWO Elite Heavyweights like Kissinger co-signing for him, it's time to PAY ATTENTION. There is a global chess game of sorts going on and you know who the pawns are...

I only got one thing to say. Obama can't do no more harm to us than Bush or anybody else did. Better yet, the harm we cause ourselves on the regular. So all this I don't trust Obama jargon is rubbish to me. And KRS doesn't have to warn us about anything. You never trust any polition. Why is it just Obama now?

@Jill


You sound like an anarchist. I take humbrage with KRS going to Austin, Texas and pandering to militia groups, racists and right wing loon jobs by comparing Barack Obama to the manager of Burger King for their amusement. He epitomized the boot licking, foot shuffling, house negro with that move. If Obama is the manager of Burger King then surely KRS is the vagrant eating from the dumpster in the back.


Aside from that what qualification does this man possess that warrants ANYONE listen to him? Why should we? Who is he? What's his history in the world of politics, human rights, civil rights, etc?


It requires no talent to "ring the alarm" The talent is in devising a concise plan of action to correct things one deems to be wrong. He has none. Too often we elevate people for their ability to critique and TALK. It's easy to sit back and criticize Obama when all you've ever run was your mouth.


Let me also say I am indifferent when it comes to Obama. I know there's not much he can do on his own but I am happy for the symbolism of his presidency. Can we at least enjoy that for more than 2 weeks before the black on black hatred rears its ugly head?


KRS did his interview with Alex Jones. Regulars on there are nuts like David Icke and John Lear who promote some Reptillian agenda. If KRS wants to be taken seriously he better watch the company he keeps but then again birds of a feather....

It has been time for people to wake up, and Hip Hop was the voice to move the masses. Are any of you that are behind Obaaaamaaa paying attention? Are you informed about what plans your Government have for you? This man has openly told you that he will go after Pakistan... Hello AMERICA is dying. Over 500,000 people are losing the jobs every month. The world is disillusioned by a celebrity president who has never done anything. Check his tenure as a Senator. Nothing. Obaaamaaa worked for Kissinger while in college. This man was selected to be President long before Black people even knew who he was. Your oppressor will never allow you win at his game.

Okay, we have some good stuff here. And like most of the blogs that Reckless has that are discussion worthy, there is thin line between agreement, and disagreement and strong agreement and strong disagreement.

@ Jill (I love when sistas join in on these kinds of discussions).

I am going to say that I agree with you. I honestly don't think anyone with a straight face can argue with you or KRS 1 on the bigger points. However, I have to agree somewhat with Nim on this too. The timing and roll out of this thing to me speaks to another agenda.

And even if Barak was on board with this - how would he get it done in two weeks. I mean I am a huge fan of Chris, but this smells like it couched under something bigger that he wants and plans to pitch.

It appears to me that he is about to roll out a new album, maybe a foundation or organization of some sort or something. This thing just seem so miscast in terms of timing. I mean do you disagree with me. This looks a hustle to most. They are seeing a disconnected rant. Again, I agree with Nim about some white racists or republicans using this as a real launching pad for their garbage. When Rush Limbaugh said he wanted Barak to fail, well you and I don't put our stock in this political thing because we know it nothing more than a shell game for the selected few. So Rush and friends are just trying to get back to the head of the table so they can move the pea around under the shell. I think we both recognize that.

However, when you are dealing with bulk of our people they don't see that and Chris knows this. So, why do this, unless you are using this as a launching pad for something else. The intent just comes off sort of phoney to me.

As far as the NWO most of you don't even understand what's going on in the world. I was in Europe and used my bank card from America and withdrew currency in THEIR denomination. I think those warnings about the NWO may be too little too late. This is bigger than Obama and WAAAAAAY bigger than KRS.


Promoting rioting and anarchy only expedites the process. I believe this is the true agenda of people like Alex Jones. Learn to tune things out. Sometimes the only way to win the game is not to play.

Just take a look at the cabinet he has built. Isreal is in the White House. Rahm Emanuel served in the Isreali army. This is detrimental to America, and we have not even begin to speak on how 3 of the people he selected Tom Daschle being the most famous and a member of CFR, just decided not to pay over $100,000.00 in taxes. Meanwhile, a regular working joe, or most people reading this are getting called by collectors for FAR LESS money and FAR WORSE threats. On the real though all of this is useless, because people have forgot that we run the government, they are elected by US... but now people let the Government do what ever they want. Bush was just the beginning, Obama will get away with more with no pressure. People are being FED PROPAGANDA everyday. Just look at how "racism" or "hate" is the response from someone unknowingly under the spell. Lets hope most read this far. We owe to our Chidlren to be informed. They will grow up in a world far different and with FAR LESS Civil Liberties we are losing everyday. It is pass time to sit and watch we have to do something.. Just voting is NOTHING...

@ Nim:

Maybe Jill wasn't kind,...lol...but he is kind of a manager. All presidents are. I just think that this message is ill timed, though.

Damm, I can't believe what i am reading. where were yall when i used to say these things and used to get into a e fist fight every day...lol.

@B Lowe


Are you ready to die for what you BELIEVE or are you a "cyber warrior" hoping to incite others to make the sacrifices you lack the courage to make? Throughout the history of black people we have upheld rhetorical wizards as some sort of leader and the rappers have inherited that adulation. Talk is cheap.


I'm very aware of the NWO, RFID chips, Amero, etc. And as real as some of it sounds I'm disturbed by the messengers because I KNOW they don't have MY interest at heart. I watch carefully and wait to see which way this thing is going before tossing my hat in the ring. MY people have a history of being on the wrong side and that's the primary change I'm concerned with. I'm a black man and black people are my primary concern.


Just as in the 60's many of us embraced communism and socialism only to lose with it. I advocate we sit back and let people who care nothing for us eliminate and weaken each other and then make a move. We're always sticking our nose we're it doesn't belong. Let these people knock each other off for a change whether it be Palestinians and Jews, Iraqi's and Iranians, Indians and Pakistanis or Chinese and Japanese. Our plan should be to be around to pick up the pieces not get involved. Especially with our history of choosing the losing side.


Just my thoughts.

See that is where you have it all wrong. I did not ask you to incite anything. Truth of the matter is they are well moved in their agenda. You have to let go of Black/White to really Understand what is going on. Racism is a distraction. The global government is basically in place. You say you have the information, then you should be aware that what is coming will not exclude you. Your government is telling you how much water you can have in your toilet. You will be part of the agenda you will not be able to exist the way you have been, but I do not have sit here and tell you because you know. And it is selfish way to be really, because the Generation behind you does not know. And no one is telling them. Instead you inducted them and the same continues. It will take generations to change this and none of us will live to see it, but the awakening is happening. You are content, and that is fine, but I care more about HUMANITY.. Do you?.. but it is all around us..

Bigup2bk: Great post , and I read it. . It's just that TRUTH transcends time. "Consciousness" on the part of the masses was never in the cards. Truth and truth seekers will ,and always have been "hated on" in a system dyametrically opposed to Truth. All these KRS1 haters understand political science minimally at best. And if nothing more their churches are failing them miserably in respects to any spiritual comprehension of the issues at hand. Chris hit it head on urging folks to not let "emotion" dominate reason. That's a backward thought process. Get past the surface. There is , was and always has been an "agenda".
Seeds take time to grow into trees. Everyone needs as much Truth as they can get sooner than later because time is of the essence in relation to "consciousness".. Let the haters "hate". Somebody on this board is going to have a light go on that will motivate them to dig a little deeper. Ain't no excuse these days to not be informed.. It's a choice. Keep it up Chris.. Somebody's listening.

@B. Lowe


I'm not caught up in black and white but given the history of suffering by black people can you blame me for being suspicious of the intentions of those with a proven history of exploiting us? Black people have invented a term "people of color" just to attach themselves to people who shun us. Leave it to us everyone is black but to them we're just dumb ni*gers. You may view the world through rose colored glasses but I don't. We have always extended our hands only to get a rap on the knuckles. Let the humanitarians extend a hand to us for a change and not because they need us for cannon fodder. The fight you're concerned with is bigger than you and me.


My love for humanity begins with my love of SELF. What you are trying to change is inevitable. It will happen if only for a brief period but it will happen nonetheless. It's not the end of the world bruh. Humanity exists in a perpetual state of build, destroy, rebuild.

Don't become a fearmonger.

Politically incorrect:

I couldn't agree with you more on 90 percent of what you said, but you don't plant a seed in the winter snow. You have to wait for the right time of season to plant a seed in order to have a harvest. Strategic planning, implementation and assessment of intended and actual outcomes can't be ignored as silly side issues (vot that you are suggesting this). These are the things that make the rubber meet the road. Do you disagree with me.

Think obama is your friend?

http://www.youdecide2008.com/2008/02/17/hate-mccain-write-in-ron-paul/

read the second comment on this page, by "Jen", if you care to educate yourself. Lots of good info/links. Also, watch esoteric agenda, free on google video.

And for those who will still blindly say the government is our friend, check out Operation Northwoods at wikipedia, and also an article in the SF Chronicle (google it!) titled rule by fear or rule by law.
Then if you have google earth (or just google map), enter camp grayling and click on "A". It will have a link to all the fema concentration camps in the north west.
People everywhere are waking up. You can either start researching this stuff for yourself, or leave you head buried in the sand like most of the population.

One love

Why is it that everytime a rapper/entertainer comes out with the truth.. people say that he is just trying to promote an album or what not?! If you don't do the research about the info krs one is putting forth.. STFU. Do your research and then say something valid here. There are too many paid bloggers up in here! GTFO

letsgetfree.ning.com
meet me there
peace to the regs

Well, I am probably more prepared and have done way more research (real research) than you, kid.

I am also a huge fan of KRS 1, still. The bottom line is that for someone who is as smart as he is - he is saying something at a really dumb time. So researcher, the question is, why? The other thing is that although I like Chris - what he said is nothing new. You act like this is some "new growth" in terms of knowledge that he is offering. My older Brother in his dudes was talking about this 20 years ago when i was 12. By the way, my older brother is one year younger than Chris. This is nothing new, at all. So follow Chris' charge andt ake the emotion out of it and ask yourself why is he doing this at this time. Did he all of sudden become dumb overnight or is he saying this to bring attention to himself, and if so, why.

it is nothing new indeed. it is the hidden truth. why are you acting like its not a big deal?! don't you see that they are setting us up for global domination you sheep.. if you know whats up why are acting like a sheep?. Oh government programmed your @ss well

it is nothing new indeed. it is the hidden truth. why are you acting like its not a big deal?! don't you see that they are setting us up for global domination you sheep.. if you know whats up why are acting like a sheep?. Oh government programmed your a__well

You are boring me, sun. Yeah, I am programmed (smh). Okay, then take your dumb @ss out there and look like a f*ckin fool, you moron. You are going get yourself kill talking that foolishness.
Read the book "The spook who sat by the door." Then you will have an idea of how i am programmed. And by the way, what is your plan to stop this global domination, and who are the dominant group you speak of, researcher?

Trust me, sun - you are one of so many who have came at me, having "no" idea who i am and regretted coming at me. Just like you used the term research. To you, research is simple observation and misguided and false antidotal rhetoric. You have "no" idea how to set up a social scientific model to engage in real research, none. So trust me when i tell you, we are not even close to even knowing what programming is and how it constructed. Do a quick regression analysis for me and tell me what get with respect to this topic of programming. How can you talk about programming when you are clueless as to how to set up a scientific systemic program and you have no idea how to construct a tool or instrument to collect the data, disect ir, analyze it and give it meaning and then use the data to set up a program, to program people. In other words, when we get to the root of program constructiion, implementation and assessment, you are F8ckin clueless, aren't you. Regradless of the subject matter, you have "no" f8ckin idea what programming is and how it is done.

Respond back, and prove me wrong.

man your fcking stupid.. they call television shows programming for nothing. When mtv is showing dumb rappers making it rain on hos and driving with spinning rims sellin dope. is that not programming.? cause i see a lot of fools impersonating them on the streets.. when the news is sitting there telling you that 2 planes hijacked by "al queda" crashed into the wtc.. Thats programming. When the media has basically every celebrity endorsing barack obama and his "change" campaign. thats programming. THATS PROGRAMMING..

INFORMATION IS MY PLAN TO STOP GLOBAL DOMINATION..THE TRUTH. SOMETHING THAT YOUR HIDING. PLAY YOUR POSITION DOGG

Wow, I waited a long time for you to respond, and you finally responded by offering me baby food. You are the one who is stupid. You have yet to engage in higher thinking. Your responses, rhetoric and ideas are all borrowed. In fact, your explanation is something i would expect from a 7th grader.

You gave me the most basic child like examples. I wish I could say that i am disappointed but this pretty much what I expected. I lack the motivation to continue to talk to you. You have the intelligence of some of the lowest form of life in the rodent family. Talking to you is a waste of time.

Yo Big Up I'm cracking up over here at your last post.


Dude doesn't even understand that most people believe their truth to be the only truth. Jews believe they are chosen by God, Hebrew Israelites believe they're the true Israelites. Christians believe only through Christ can you see paradise and so on and so on.


It's impossible for logical people to debate emotional people. Some people allow their emotions to supersede their intelligence. Because they're fans of KRS the rapper, they won't question his politics as if one has something to do with the other. That is so shallow to me. Because you liked a man music you allow him to indoctrinate you with CONSPIRACY THEORIES? Where are the boundaries? Where does fantasy stop and reality begin?


Then there's the guy who condescendingly described posters as having minimal understanding of political science because he has a Youtube PHD in quackery. Delusions of grandeur are rampant among those who recently stumble upon bits of information that have been around forever.


I haven't posted in a while and certainly not like today but someone has to keep the purveyors of duplicity at bay. LOL!


I'm out homie. Have a good one.

@ Nim,...(smh)... sadly, so true. I mean come on - either Chris (KRS 1) is really dumb or this is a purposeful act to get attention. I mean how can anyone argue with something that is so transparently clear.

Further, this other stuff people are kicking is comical. They are talking like they are presenting something new. I mean, to be truthful, I like KRS 1, but I didn't learn one thing new from what Chris said. In fact, i found some holes in sh*t to be honest. This stuff Chris is pushing (to market whatever he has up his sleeve) has been around for decades, just better stated.

I am slowly learning how to step back from debating with people who are either so unreasonable or immature and underdeveloped in their understanding of some fundalmental truths. I use to think that I was helping them by debating them but now I see that I all I am doing is helping establish a headache that I don't need.

Anyway, Peace Brother. Catch up with you next time.

How are they borrowed? i think from my minds reaction to everything thats going on in the world. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out what the government, better yet the global elite is doing. All you have to do is THINK FOR YOURSELF. Stop drinking the kool aid and think outside of this matrix. Im not here to argue with anybody. My beef is with the nwo. Either ride with us or collide with us because we ain't stoppin. www.infowars.com

Whew...loong day at work, finally back to respond again to a couple of things then I'm outtie

First @ this previous comment:
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"I only got one thing to say. Obama can't do no more harm to us than Bush or anybody else did. Better yet, the harm we cause ourselves on the regular. So all this I don't trust Obama jargon is rubbish to me. And KRS doesn't have to warn us about anything. You never trust any polition. Why is it just Obama now?"
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Very true and wise. Never trust any politician, yet at the same time folks like me are compelled to speak out PARTICULARLY about Obama because:

(a) An undeniable cult of personality has been built up around him by his PR machine and folks are starry-eyed and emotional about him in a way I haven't seen in politics in my lifetime (though history is replete with other examples that did not turn out well at all) Emotions and politics do not mix!

(b) He's the iron hand in the velvet glove, the Trojan Horse, the black-faced Al Jolson of politics pushing not his agenda, not change that will benefit the people, but that of those who control and finance him. Bush, Cheney et al needed no shouting out...they were OVERTLY in our faces with their brand of wickedness. I spent time and money working with organizations to get them impeached (btw...do you think Obama will bring the Bush criminals to justice as he can and should?). The Black face and smooth taste of Obama is soothing to GOP-weary Americans. Soothing us right back to sleep while the "war" on terror continues (wait...didn't Obama take an 'anti war' stance early in his campaign? already that has insidiously CHANGED to the same ol' same ol' - just look at the January 19th issue of Newsweek...it's *chilling*) Bottom line is Obama will get away with far more than even Bush & Co. could because he holds the people's trust in the palm of his hand. If Bush was calling for "Universal Compulsory Service" (GOOGLE IT) folks would be up in arms! But we'll gladly press our children into Obama's draft, I mean, "service".


And @ Reckless
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You wrote: "I don't know man. I'm having a bad feeling. But I'm not gonna worry about no bullsh*t right now. I've got things to do. "
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I feel you on one hand...sh*t is so fuct up right now it's easy to throw up your hands and not want to deal. But it's like a woman finding a lump in her breast and feeling disturbed about it, but not disturbed enough to do anything about it until it resurfaces months/years later in a fashion too big and ugly to ignore (and by then too late to address properly). I don't pretend to have the answers...we are living in unprecedented times, but I know going along with the status quo is not the move. We as a nation needed to rise up a long time ago and reject corrupt government. I'm not advocating violence, but by using every legal means to fight corruption...to MAKE them adhere to the constitution (which is now tattered and get ready to say goodbye to the 2nd amendment under O). The government is here to serve US, not the other way around. When the government begins to fear the people, when they see we are not chumps that will go along with anything they say or do, when they understand that they are accountable to us that is when real change will occur. Right now they are accountable only to those that put them in office (and if you think it's us with our 'votes' you are sadly mistaken). Money and Power are the tools that make Presidents and other politicians, but it is the people (human RESOURCES) that they will be nothing without. We have way more power (collectively) than we give ourselves credit for. Problem is, of course, disunity on every front (class, race, etc). As long as they can keep us at each other's throats we will continue to be their slaves.

*done*

Nice discussion everyone.

almost done....lol


One last point I wanted to make was if KRS was trying to boost his career why would he criticize the most admired man on the planet??? Why would he go on Alex Jones' show and drop truth bombs about politics? If anything this will probably kill whatever sliver of a career he has left. (Though at this stage of the game we ALL will be struggling career-wise if things don't turn around) He spoke his mind and his conscience. If he did so with typical KRS One bravado then so be it, but still, he spoke his truth fully aware of the consequences.

Ok,, first off Bigup hasent said anything really. "His timing is off"??? what ,,,, he is saying his truth at the most opportune time ever. He is trying to free minds before they become slavelike... .how is that "bad timing".... whatever.


Secondly,,, most of the people on here really seem to be blindly following Obama because he is Black.. Just listen to what KRS is saying and research it. You think that KRS is trying to become MORE popular by shouting out public enemy number 1 Alex Jones???!!!!

Common people.... just listen to what he is saying. KRS isnt against Obama or Bush or Clinton... He is against the NEW WORLD ORDER that is controlling who gets elected in the first place. The same people that decided to kill 3000 americans on 911.

KRS is speaking to the people as someone who is for the people. Listen to what he is saying. He is telling you to save yourself because he is one of us.

And finally,, much props to people like KRS and Alex Jones for having the BALLS to stand up against our corrupt government knowing that they could take your life any day without thinking twice.


peace. . miles

@ Bigup2bk. From a "purely' political standpoint in reference to a political stance of sorts , "timing" seeding of a "revolution" is appropo. BUT this has always been bigger than what we are talking about. This is a spiritual issue. And how the seeds germinate, if they do , is no respector of race, creed or nationality. Albeit KRS1 "truths" aren't of a spiritual nature they may incite the few to question what is really going on and conclude that their ONLY defense IS an elevation of consciousness. That which the "powers that be" are INTENT on destroying or not even allowing to take root. So ANY truth is good. We on this board are interested in politics.. So "truth" on that level is worthy of discussion. That can lead to a search "finally" on the part of some to MORE truth on other levels. Culminating in the "permanance " that only the Truth can realize.It's deep. And the time is critical. And that is why so much is coming out and happening so fast. You are either going to wake up "spiritually" or stay asleep. One can't afford to continue to let bogus religious systems, cartel like financial systems, and gangster governments , decieve them from the real issue which is who you believe will bring about "peace and security".. Is it MAN or the INTELLIGENT DESIGNER? Telling and spreading the truth on all levels at ANY TIME is good for "someone" somewhere. btw "Jill" got it together! lol. Nimrod needs to study the Book from which is his poster name came, which appears to be appropriately ironic in itself. What government HASN"T changed by a so -called "conspiracy".. That's how it allows works. You manipulate the majority by any means necessary. In the economy's case GREED was the lure. And now the "fallout" is the perfect excuse or front to set up a global socialist society. Everything is going according to plan. Brutha needs to do his research.

@Nimrod,, No grandeur here. It's just that anyone that discounts what KRS1 one had to say as if it is inconsequential is fooling themselves. Perception is critical. And those that debunk so called conspiracy theories clearly haven't done enough research or have a limited understanding of history. You are wrong to assume that I or anyone else with this take on things is a you tube or infonet junkie. KRS motive is basically irrevelant. What's important is that he can motivate some to think outside of the propaganda machine that already seems to be falling apart at the seams. BUT with each upcoming "terrorist attack" will gain more momentum. Bottom line friends "religion" is the enemy at large. It is being set up to be destroyed and with subsequent desvating consequences. This is biblical. Anyone percieved or suspected to be fanatical will be targeted. And believe it or not,, this is God's work, (see Revelation 17:16,17) the gory details are in chapter 18 of the same book. Now whatever it takes for the few who will to wake up to this, may God be with them. It's not about Obama, the Fed , NWO, CFR, Bilderberger Group, Illuminati, Skulls and Bones, Trilateral Commission, the Vatican, the Freemasons or whoever. It's about God and what YOU believe is going on and your INNER reaction to it. Peace.

much respect to krs-one but for him to say that president obama is a puppet is unbelievable. first of all, he was voted in as president. if they(republicans)would've had more votes, he wouldn't be in office and this whole theory wouldnt matter. krs-one would've been saying that that was a conspiracy. the fact that we have a black president doesn't mean much if black people dont practice self improvement. throughout history, the president hasn't had much power anyway. but president obama is checking all those people that were getting rich off funds that were for the people. the "one for you and one, two, three for me people. thats progress in itself.


(this is Jill back under my alter-ego...just can't seem to stay away:)

@ Gato

Please read the thread...lots of good info on here that will help you see past the illusion of the two-party system. It's a false dialectic - democrats & republicans are controlled by the same power brokers - period. Votes don't put President's if office, money does.

It is safe to say the MOST presidents if not all have been "puppets" with financial entities behind them. Bush was the most obvious, as for our generation. He was THROWN into office. By who?...We may never know.Even people from other countries recognize Obama as a puppet. It's not news. Truth is half of the whites here wouldn't have voted for him if they didn't recognize that themselves. And Obama didn't win popular vote by a huge margin, which clearly demonstrates the "state" of the union. Not much has "changed". It has always been a matter of following the money.There is a "machine" behind Obama. And he will do as manipulated. At this point it's all acting. This bi-partisan bickering is a show. Bailouts and stimulus packages WILL be passed. This is socialism in the making. Instead of critizing KRS1 we'd be better off discussing life in a society dominated by government of which will be totally new to us. It is the truth he speaks. And it isn't too early for it. The battle is ultimately spiritual. And if you are distracted you will miss the whole point. It is a choice between Gods' rule or Mans. Who will really bring "peace and security", And whose side you choose. The picture overall is really that big.
I hope there is no Bible bashers to join us. The strength in black people since Africa has been belief in a Higher Power. The question is "do you really KNOW Him"? A route has to be chosen. We all have 24 hours a day to choose to do the research and come to a conclusion. The deception is in "religion",," government " and the "commercial system". All designed to distract and enslave. Secret occult societies are behing everyone one of these governments. And these groups involvement in the occult is heavy. So who do you think is at the top of the hierarchy giving instructions through the stars and pyschics? That's what we are up against. So your only defense is SPIRITUAL. So we have to get it RIGHT. Which means find the truth in whatever you can . Let it be spread. And make it your OWN.. Peace.

To all those who say KRS is not relevant...have you forgotten about Self Destruction? The Stop The Violence Movement? The man is one of the Best to ever touch the Mic and he is not past his prime, his live shows are better than the extravagant stage productions put on by today's rappers....oh and to those of you who think KRS has been politically silent for the last 8 years...go back and listen to "The Sneak Attack" he warned in 2000 that "The next 8 years are gonna be ill"...

NIMROD IS MORE ASLEEP THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THIS BLOG!

His Name Says It All!!!!
Nimrod!
As Dumb As They Come!

@Politically Correct


I feel you on your last post. It is indeed a spiritual battle so why doesn't KRS address that? My faith is not in Obama but I am dismayed by the crab in the barrel mentality of self hating negroes and KRS is absolutely one. A blessing and a curse are one and the same the difference being in the application. There is power in symbols and the symbolism of a black man in the highest office in the nation can and should work to our advantage no matter the reality. The truth is to be seldom spoken and always acted upon.


It's so easy to attack each other. KRS has no business going down to Austin Texas and offering his voice as a weapon for rednecks whose biggest problem with Obama is his skin. Underthe guise of fighting the NWO these professional rabble rousers and agent provocatuers recruit nitwits like KRS to lead us to a certain slaughter. I don't want to hear a word from KRS. He's a modern day Stepinfetchit for that one.


Also, be mindful that everything we are witnessing in the world is a calculated effort by MAN to fulfill prophesy. Why would man have to fulfill prophesy some of you may ask? The same reason MAN had to create Israel despite it being promised to the so-called "jews" by "God." Figure it out. There's always been a global conspiracy. Don't panic lest in your hysteria you bring about that which you fight against.


I know the deal with Obama. Last year I was alone in predicting he was guaranteed the presidency because of his backers like George Soros, Zbigniew Brzezinski, David Rockefeller and a few others. Presidents are selected not elected. I know this but how many understand this or even need to. What some of you don't understand is that the rulers of this world are ruthless individuals who see themselves as "God" and they maintain their power by keeping us from knowing our TRUE potential. This was first done by withholding truth. These days its done by overloading our senses with more info than we can process making us indifferent to truth.


In a nutshell. Criticizing Obama is the coward's way out. You touched on some good things but I have no way of knowing how well you understand the implications of your words.


The truth is a heavy burden and people who go around dispensing it carelessly can do more harm than good.


Peace.


@King Sun aka The Village Idiot


Read my posts and read your own. I don't have to respond to your childlike rant. I provide insight, info and facts to support my POV and supply insults like the mental midget you are. If you are the Sun then surely there is no life on any planet in your solar system.


Now go pop in the latest rap CD for the only education you have.

Yup!
Nimrod You Really Are/Is Asleep!!
Do You Even Read Your Post B4 You Post Them!!!
Obama Is Just Another DEVIL
With A Different Face!
#1 House Nigga In The World Is OBAMA!!
I Laugh At People That Think Obama Is Gonna
Change The Ghettoes Cause He's
SO Called Black! He's Not Changing A Damn Thing!
Ghettoes Are Still Gonna Be F*cked And
Rich Neighborhoods Are Gonna Get Richer!
It's A Cycle That Will Never End!
Unless This Government Ends!
But It Won't!!
Just Live Your Life To The Fullest Til You DIE!
PERIOD!

LMAO!
Obviously Your In "MY" Solar System!

@King Sun


Your last post has reduced you to "heckler" status. Take off the rainbow wig, red nose and oversize shoes bozo. You're dismissed.

LMMFAO!
You Just Dismissed Yourself!
NOthing Clever To Say!
OKAY I'll Take It Off,
And Return It To The RightFul Owner......
NIMROD!

Politically Incorrect is right...though the world is looking for a political solution to our problems and sees Obama as something of a 'messiah' it will ultimately boil down to a SPIRITUAL battle. Everything that exists in our material world has its origins in the spiritual realms (science is even coming to recognize this via quantum physics) and any 'salvation' will come from there too.

That said, I do not personally subscribe to any particular religion (though in my lifetime I've been initiated into two), yet religion is not needed to evolve spiritually. In fact, it may be a hindrance (root meaning of the word religion is "return to bondage"). The Bible is of benefit to the extent that it does contain some spiritual truths, but honestly my gut instinct is telling me that on some level it's been tampered with and I know for certain that it has been used against the mass of humanity to keep us subservient to the powers-that-be who actually USE the Bible as their own personal 'playbook' of sorts (and as a side note FEMA speaks with pastors and tells them how to counsel their flock - http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=9990 ). You can pretty much see that they are prepping for 'armaggedon' scene {sigh}.

I agree with Ziggy Marley..."LOVE" is my religion. I agree with the counsel from the Christ archetype: "Love your neighbor as yourself" (in reality we all are ONE anyway) and "Love God with your whole heart, soul & mind". If you follow only those 2 admonitions you're leaps and bounds ahead of the game and will reap rich spiritual fruits. AND, no Obamassiah needed :)

@ Nimrod

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"@Politically Correct
I feel you on your last post. It is indeed a spiritual battle so why doesn't KRS address that? My faith is not in Obama but I am dismayed by the crab in the barrel mentality of self hating negroes and KRS is absolutely one."
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I understand where you're coming from but I honestly don't think KRS is displaying the crab-in-the-barrel mentality...I really just get the sense that he's trying to SHAKE folks out of their stupor and hypnotic trance that the Obama phenomenon has them in. Though YOUR faith is not in Obama, millions of others have handed their faith over to him lock, stock and yes, barrel! He is addressing the spiral-eyed supporters who can't see past the "Showbama".

@MJWiz


The Sheep need not know if all it will bring about is chaos and paralysis caused by fear. Ignorance is truly bliss and knowledge is for those not only ready but capable to ACT.

If humanity was to be made aware of every possible threat to the planet what kind of life would we have? The world is comprised of Sheep, Wolf and the Good Shepherds. Those with knowledge exist on both sides of the equation but the vast majority will NEVER know the truth. Everything is not for everyone. There will always be people who go through life with blinders on without a care in the world.


Remember the scene in the Matrix where the traitor chose bliss over knowledge of self? That's real man. You can't go around speaking truth indiscriminately. That will get you nailed to the "cross" every time.


All I'm saying is people have to be responsible with thier knowledge and info. I could be wrong but it seemed like pure grandstanding by KRS at the expense of a black man who happens to be the president for the acceptance of bigots. I don't appreciate that because self-hating blacks can find a reason to knock other blacks all day. Some things are better off not said because in time all is revealed anyway.

@Nimrod. Whoa man! I was glad to see your position cleared up for.. Well spoken! I digress. KRS1's approach to the issue and possibly allowing himself to be "pimped" as it were should raise an eyebrow. Either way it's refreshing to hear brothers and sistas "thinking". I was tired of seeing the hoopla of overly emotional blacks,, supposedely intelligent ones at that going overboard with Obamamania. Oprah, Hill Harper,etc. And entertainers like Jay Z , Diddy (I know bad examples) who ought to know better , jumping on the bandwagon for publicity sake. At the end of the day as you agreed,, it's spiritual , So KRS1 at some point has to either wake up to that himself or have the COURAGE to take it to the people that way. We all (if interested, cause Truth ain't for everybody) need to seek and ask for a good understanding of prophecy. If where you are going to learn the "Word" is not "going there" , you need to get to "steppin".. We come too far to be losing out. And the inner work necessary to survive what is coming is not achieved overnight. Training period is NOW.. Thanks my bro for responding. Spread and support TRUTH!

@MJWiz. Briefly... Your critique of the Bible is justifiable from a purely physical perspective. But if the Book claims Divine orgin, that All powerful Divinity can make sure it is NOT tampered beyond recognition.And that what we need is there. Withourt a concrete "guide",,how do you know where you are going? At best you follow your own or someone elses limited knowledge. Or at worst your "heart" (emotions) which tend to defy reason. To go along with spiritual principal, you have to "search" and eventually "choose",,,,the guide. At the end of the day it's a choice of direction of energy with your time. You have to "truly" have the interest. The whole "the Bible's been tampered with argument" ,is a cop out for most that don't want to put the energy into the work involved to boost "faith" (the all and the end) in the credibility of the book. As Nimrod implied. It's about "sheep". Are you willing to be LED? Will you follow a compass. Or do you think YOU got itall figured out?

@ Nimrod. Yeah,, If KRS1 were a preacher , the responsible Christlike thing to do would be to be neutral to all of it. These baffoon like preachers out here taking sides one way or another are going to end up hurting themselves. Christ never got involved deliberately in secular politics. KRS1 is no preacher. His words won't necessarily help "save" anyone.He doesn't claim to represent "spiritually" , So it is a RELIEF that he hasn't taken "that" approach. I personally commend him for that. PLEASE keep the politics seperate from spiritual "truths" . ( key word being "truths")
The real truth is God has His Kingdom (directed from heaven) and at this point the earth is under Satanic domination. I pray that KRS1 as well as myself cultivate the courage and faith to speak boldly about God's Government! Now that would be real talk! And you can really see if you can "take the heat" of the haters.
Truth ain't for everybody, But it is good to hear it revealed and discussed. All truth matters. Your points were appreciated

@ politically incorrect

Your points appreciated as well. I don't think I'm 'copping out' though considering I've read the Bible from cover-to-cover, have studied it extensively over many years and even do cross-reference style study in comparing it with other holy books and near-eastern texts. My views are not snap decisions made hastily. Much of what is contained in it appears in earlier texts. And the statement that it's from God because it says it's from God is as circular as an argument can get! I am not throwing the proverbial baby out with the bathwater, but again, between my studies and my intuitive spiritual sense, I can't co-sign it 100% but do not knock those who do. I also believe we all have the god-seed in us and the priestly class/religions/etc. are there to do the 'work' for those who don't want to attend to their own spirituality. If one has 'good' shepherds, you're straight (just as if we had 'good' politicians we could put our full trust in them and not do any 'homework') but in today's world goodness is a rarity.

Anyway, I've digressed WAY off topic. Enjoyed everyone's contributions.

Obama is going to be worse then Bush. He is a pacifier. Placed in office to calm the angry mob left by president bush. The whole idea of them placing a black man as president makes me realize how much they truly fear people of color. ACT NOW before the constitution is MOLESTED. This land is cursed. Built on blood, rape and torture. . wake up people. . .

@ Bill Clinton

Short, concise and RIGHT ON!

here here!

Gloabal socialism is the GOAL in my eyes. All this fear of a "New World Order" is unfounded. I want a worldwide socialist government. If we can ever shake the shackles of religion, maybe we can get back to evolving. All this fear mongering is holding us back.

@ Nimrod and BigUp2BK

Yoooooooo!!!!!!

Dayum, I missed this today!!! And it looks like y'all really went in! I haven't read everything but I'm glad to see the two of you were up in here today.

I'm going to read the posts and see if there's still room for me to add my comments. But this was definitely a good look.

@ Nimrod

you wrote
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Everything is not for everyone. There will always be people who go through life with blinders on without a care in the world.


Remember the scene in the Matrix where the traitor chose bliss over knowledge of self? That's real man. You can't go around speaking truth indiscriminately. That will get you nailed to the "cross" every time.
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And there it is...beautifully put. I guess I should just shut up now :) and not burst anymore bubbles.

Ignorance is bliss, and 'knowing' is really nerve-wracking sometimes. I wish I could go back to 'party and bullsH*t mode' but guess I'm stuck on the Nebuchadnzezzar eating mush :\

I do find solace in knowing that come what may, this is actually part of a natural cycle. Gotta take the bad with the good...such is the nature of the world and culture after culture speaks of both golden ages and cataclysms and utopias. At least we live in 'interesting' times :)


@MJWiz and Bobby Gringo. You both made valid points. The Bible HAS been used against people by different groups throughout history. BUT only because those victimized were illiterate or too lazy or disinterested in actually studying the Bible. The Word tells you to check what you are learning.I am not going to start quoting scriptures. I think you know where several of them are MJWiz.
Bobby, there is a prophecy in the book of Revelation that is going to grant your wish. God wants false religion eliminated and he will and is manipulating the governments to accomplish that. Do yourself a favor and read Revelation chapters 17 and 18. The "whore" is false religion. The wild beast is the U.N..The rest pretty much speaks for itself. Then do yourself a bigger favor and pray about where YOU will fit into the picture. Are you going to support the "socialist sponsored" via the U.N "peace and security" mania. Or will you support God's Kingdom? This finality of the whole deal. The stage is being set for each of us to face that "choice". It is really that simple. But a challenge to choose the side that will get you past the storms ahead and on into the "promise". Specifically Revelation 21:3,4.
Shoot for the "golden age" as you speak of MJWiz.
*** Were the Obamamaniacs scared off? lol . Haven't heard from them lately. It's beautiful seeing a positive image in the black "first family" . But we can't allow ourselves to be bamboozled. We have to "think". And most of all do our spiritual work. So we none of us will be commiting suicide and killing our families over a "financial setback". It's what happens when your "faith" is misplaced. We were programmed to "believe in something".. Choose well.

@ politically incorrect

wOw...from KRS to the Bible...what a thread jack...lol

Again, I respect the Bible in that it does contain some spiritual truths, but it has been 'jacked' as well. Are scriptures that condone genocide, slavery and denigration of women the word of god? And your argument that it has stood the test of time can also be applied to the Vedas or the Egyptian Book of the Dead. You may say those books are irrelevant from your point-of-view, but there are millions of equally 'faithful' who consult these for spiritual counsel. Bottom line is no single religious ideology or philosophy can cover 'everything' or has all the 'answers'. As 'absolute' as you are in your beLIEfs, there is someone on the other side of the globe (or even right next door!) who is equally sure they they have the 'truth'. What makes your subjective experiences more 'true' than theirs?

Spiritually I take a multidisciplinary approach which even includes occult subjects (*gasp*). Occult simply means 'hidden' by the way. And if your Bible condemns it you ought to ask yourself why. The powers-that-be avail themselves of hidden knowledge and strive to keep the common people in the *dark*. One good way to ensure they stay in darkness is to demonize such things or maybe forbid them in the Bible :) Because I approach esoteric knowledge with respect, I have not been assaulted or harassed by spirits or boogeymen, but rather have gained even greater insight into the nature of our world and reality itself.

My journey began with the Bible and Christianity and for that I'm grateful, but there is a whole universe of knowledge and wisdom that exists beyond it that will free your mind.

@MJWiz. From KRS1 to the Bible?,...lol Truth has a way of attracting more truth. It's just a law of physics. You raised good points. And it would take regular study to get to conclusions on the issues you raised. But briefly, in comparison to all other supposedly "holy writings' the Bible is indisputably the most widely distributed book of all time. Among many other facts that make it quite distinct. Like being translated in hundreds of languages making it accesible to just about anyone the planet. there's going to be the "faithful" to a lot of different things. But the question is , "what is true?" In the end it "does" as you imply, get personal. One thing though the Bible is full of prophecies. Those that have been fullfilled and those that are being fullfilled as we blog. You simply have to have the "prior" interest to do the work to become convinced. Like any other book, the Bible isn't written for everybody..... In the end,, it's just that,,, "faith". But it doesn't have to be "blind".
Maybe saying "occult sciences'" could have been misleading to some. But you know what the Bible condemns or warns against on that level. And simply because it can open you up to direct interaction with wicked spiritus. None of whom have humans best interests in mind. It's enough living in a world under their influence, let alone getting possessed by one or a few. Or getting direct instructions from them. Let what is *dark* stay in the dark. Why venture into it.?
I feel you on " a whole universe of knowledge and wisdom out there". But There is really nothing new. Upon investigation you will find that the Bible ended up consolidating all of the metaphysical knowledge that one will ever need. Chpts 5-7 of Matthew.. the Sermon on the Mount. Other "holy books" from other cultures and some new age material , just makes it sound more "mystical" or something . As if it is "new". Truth is truth. But it is even better when you know exactly what is going on and can see into the future, which the prophecies of the Bible allows one to do. You can "plan". And take advantage of "universal energy even more so. The Bible can be used to filter out info that is not so useful or could even be misleading. We are going "somewhere".

KRS One is right. Some of you people are just ignorant. Alot of You on this blog actually agree with Krs but you say it was not the right time for him to speak the truth. So if that's the case then when is it a good time to speak the truth? Let me explain something to you before you finish your fema laced kool-aid. Truth recieved early is an advantage, Truth recieved late is useless. In other words if you were a boss would you fire a worker that arrives 5 minutes early or a worker that arrives 5 minutes late?

As far as Krs being compared to Jay-z,Kanye,TI,....etc

Well let's go in on this.

Start with Jay-z.

Jay-Z embraces the whole masonic order. That symbol he makes is a pyramid not a diamond. He sold his soul. Go find out the history of the real Rocafellas then ask yourself why did he embrace thier agenda to a point of adopting this whole Rocafella thing.

Kanye is successful because gays think he's one of them. He does that by design, it's no accident. Gays want a spokesperson and Kanye spoke up.

TI and Lil Wayne pretend to be gangsters and killers. Of course thier going to have sucess violence is American as apple pie.

On the other hand KRS founded the whole "Stop the Violence" movement.

So ask yourselfs what do you need more today?
Gangsters and killers or peace and unity?

I have a feeling your going to choose KRS. Peace

@pueorock1.. Whoa! Man you cleared up alot.! Congratulations! It's a "system" out there.. You either buy into and get your 30 silver pieces (if you are lucky enough). Or you live in peace and let it roll, and be on the right side until "Good" prevails. Spreadin that TRUTH along the way. Well said! There is no right time for the TRUTH. Truth transcends time. It's just when a "group" or an individual "understands" it or can "see" it, is what differentiates one person or collective group from another in "reference" to Truth. You are so right about the artists you mentioned doing their JOBS and gettin PAID! When you sit back and look at it for what it is.. It's incredible (not in a good way) The "reps' for how the establishment wants us to think were front and center @ the Grammys. Something to think about SERIOUSLY. HOV is as blasphemous as you can get. Now I get the connection with your bringing up the whole rocafella deal.... I'm blown away. I know he knows better..But he sold himself. Dude is in my prayers. The Kanye deal is pretty obvious. He's pimpin a certain market,, and well. TI is dark and Lil Wayne "darker".. The simple "live for today approach to life." Get it while you can..
Peeps... Guard you childrens minds. This is who the establishment is after.

Well when I first heard the comments KRS said I got upset. But then I remembered that we do need to keep our minds completly open. We are living in one of the most important times in history. Now he may be jumping to conclusions, but he may have some valid points. We need to support President Obama, but at the same time dont give any man your mind, body, and soul. If anything this will keep me paying more attetion then I ever had before. The stage for the New World has already been in motion for sometime now. A lot of us know that. We are alraedy giving in to the massive bailout that may keep us in debt forever. Scary thinking about what can happen.. Keep your thrid eyes open people...

The comments on this page are pathetic. All the sheep can't handle that their savior is actually just the opposite. Fallin for the politricks every time....pathetic. "Politics is a game, how they keep us contained. There's gotta be more that we can hope for."

Please MODERATOR.. I ask you to approve my previously sent LONGGGG piece of text. Spent an hour or so on it. Please.. thanks in advance.
Bye
(you may dissaprove of this one tho. unless you have a certain sense of humor like me, it might look funny beneath the previous message)

Peace

above it even. if the story is too long I'll cut it in pieces and post it like that if that's ok.

Oh and Will... you came back from the future to warn us! Respect dude. So what's life like on March the 2nd?

:)

Terribly sorry about the previous posts made under the alias Husein Gradascevic, heroic founding father of Bosnia Hercegovina. Please feel free to delete them and the one pending. I'll try posting my life's story in pieces :)

for the record.. I'm not American nor do I live in the US, I'm a Bosniak in Amsterdam (old Amsterdam, you know.. doobysnacks; not NYC)

KRS turning America against Obama? That's a too extreme statement, he's just wanting to spread awareness to those he trusts will still listen to him (which does not include most of the people here), since he's always been one of the chosen ones informing the less intelligent and the intelligent alike. I just had to reply. You may or may not have heard about the documentary called "the Obama deception". Wake up people.. the world is being controlled. I give you John F. Kennedy, one of the greatest men of his time together with another great man; dr. Martin Luther King. Both great friends of humanity, such a shame such great men had to go because of these fascist bankers and royal families. *sigh* JFK was someone who "they" believed would stay in line, but he was an intelligent man and worried about the United States and the world. He gave an executive order which threatened the Federal Reserve (which isn't federal at all, it's not officially part of the US government: HENCE it can not be supervised by the government, that's the trick of it all)

The Fed. Reserve prints money for the US but collects a little on each printed dollar. They "lend" the government money with interest. Isn't that weird? It is the American government which has to pay the Federal Reserve, a PRIVAYELY OWNED institution, with your tax money, to lend money.. which ofcourse will have to be paid back with what? Yup, your taxmoney again. There is something fundamentaly wrong with that and John F. Kennedy had the wits AND the guts to rise up against it. It's a shame most people don't understand this, the man was greater than most even think he was.. and is. He put himself in the crosshair for it. John F. Kennedy never mentioned the exact names of the culprits (he didn't say it was the Federal Reserve, though he knew), but his executive order and his speech at the time say enough. If you understand this then you're well on the way to enlightenment. You have to be really ignorant not to be willing to recognize that which is so apparent (sorry if you're one of those, but I really feel that way.. reconsider and re-analyze).

(html coding for the win, hope u can read) JFK threatened the people who skim money of the top for themselves. People (tho they might be Lizard like aliens hahaha ;)) like the Rothschild banking clan which set up the whole financial system in the world while ALSO getting rich during wars investing/lending countries money, probably, tho no one can truly say for sure (except 4 those involved), financing various sides thus collecting twice the interest. "Quote: On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve."

NOTE THAT IT SAYS: A LITTLE KNOWN ATTEMPT. Held out of most of the media on purpose. Don't believe it? Listen to JFK himself, warning us all from a secret society days before he got killed. Not long after he issued that order also (which no president after him truly upheld)... this is the reason America has a debt! If Kennedy had his way there would be no ARTIFICIAL crisis.

John F. Kennedy Speech, April 27, 1961
"The President and the Press" American Newspaper Publishers Association. Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, New York, NY

Take a moment to hear the LAST REAL president of the United States, a great man and a true MAN OF THE PEOPLE and FOR THE PEOPLE. I hope he's resting in peace, tho considering everything that happened.. well it's sad. But John... we are here if you're reading this... for what's that worth.

http://www.youtube.com/v/xhZk8ronces&hl=en&fs=1

Oh and the dude saying this isnt about the federal reserve, obama and nwo, council on foreign relations, but your own "truth" or perception.. sorry, but I find that wrong. I don't know about me but love is certainly one of the few things in life worth experiencing. If our progeny are to walk this world then I would have them know what's what and most importantly. I wish a good future for them and all who are worthy... even the less worthy ones. The NWO will one day control life per cubic centimeter, I hear they have chips in American passports now, we're getting there. Scare the unaware majority some more and we'll be living in Alcatraz, you must have loved ones.. perhaps if you wont have ur own kids then their kids are worth thinking and caring about. Which means the NWO story isn't something you can dismiss. At least, that's how I see it.

Still asleep? It's a pretty serious case if that JFK vid didn't wake you up. They never show that speech on tv when they do documentaries on JFK. This is JFK speakin people, this is no falsification, if you have access to such resources you may confirm the authenticity of the movie for yourself. By all means, go for it and persuade yourself if you must. I've seen people not get it before, I don't know how that can be... but you better drop your joypads and hotwheels cars for a moment here. A president of the U.S. warned us about secret societies... he issued an order which would have crippled the Federal Reserve and thus the elitists in this world... and he winds up dead. Can you do that math? I sure hope so, because the world needs more awoken ones...

It's a simple choice.. the same choice Neo the One (from the Matrix trilogy) had. You see, that whole movie is based on our society if you didn't know that. There is a system of control shrouding the view of most of us.. it is similar in the way the Matrix system functions in the movie. Take the blue pill and you will wake up tomorrow believing whatever you want to believe... because you don't care.. or don't believe... or because it's too much for you. No need to read further in that case, have fun with your life, I'm sorry I couldn't make a believer out of you.

This all may seem a little unreal to most people (who are still plugged into the Matrix).. but consider this: KRS ONE is in that documentary. If you love real hiphop with a message then you gots to respect him. The dude saying he should watch his words is wrong. He is KRS ONE, rebelious as ever, filled with fighting spirit, he knows where he came from and how he got there. Because he never became a commercial raptycoon he can say what he want. More power to him too!

No way the white elitists are giving their power.. Obama is a puppet, tho Im not sure whether he's been groomed or whether they imposed their will on him recently as it was becoming clear he'd be president. KRS dared to say it and people are now talking about him like he's some attentionwh*re. I'm sure he could have had an extremely well commercial career if he wanted that, but he's one of the true rebels in this world and much more of a rollmodel to black people than all those gangstaz and whatever. Yea ok, ghettoyouth have had it tough, but most of the time they don't teach you anything usefull.. bitchez, money, cars... whatever.. materialism... don't f*ck with me or we bustin a cap..... Materialism fits right into the thinking pattern of those elitists who think they have the right to take lives and shape society as they see fit. Materialism.. and money.. that's their world, when you submit to that you're theirs.

So Bush has been forgotten? Obama wiped all the bad stuff away huh? New chapter? That's how it works in the US, right? I wonder how families of those who've died feel about that, whether American or Iraqi. I have started questioning because I'm intelligent (i like to think at least that i am) and the war in Bosnia needed alternative explanations. What will my Iraqi counterpart question? Why are his friends and family dead? Yes, DEATH! People are dead, because America and it's traditional allies consume too much. Especially America. Hummers? Hotrods? People glorify that which is costing lives and destroying our world. On a different note: watch out for the taxes they plan to make.. ALL KINDS of new taxes. Because of global warming they say, but a man who studied world climate of the past has deduced that in the Middle Ages it was even warmer than it has been in our time yet. Don't let them trick you into those taxes dudes. Those things are planned for the States.. and Obama might just be the one to press em down ur pooptube... with a big, charismatic smile on his face.

"The man" seeks to unify us, but not for the sake of peace, but for the sake of control. It is "the man" who will be at the top of the pyramid overseeing everyone, reaping all the rewards with no others to oversee him. Obama wants some civil defense groups set up, I read... seems to me like communism gone bad. But he keeps a smile on his face all the time and you just can't mistrust someone like that right? Civilian spies.. who is he planning to fight? People like myself, but then US citizens and/or inhabitants? Obama backed down on many things he promised already... whether he's willingly in on it or not, he's dancing to their tune. Check that documentary and confirm for yourself everything he's promised and not upheld. Also the dates at which troops would leave and Abu Ghraib prison. Oh and let me make something clear, do not presume to reply to me in an undesirable manner if it bored you and you havent even watched all of it. You can't help it that your life is fleeting... just don't piss on something that's intelligent with your simplicity... You can google it, it's on googlevideo.

There are many intelligent people in the world, it's such a shame that most don't know what's what. Democrat? Republican? Better wake up... remember Kerry? Skull and Bones friend with Bush... he might've won the elections BUT HE GAVE UP in Florida, not wanting the count to be finished. (hello? asleep?) Not only was this disrespectful to his voters, but it was certainly not befitting of one who showed great motivation to become president before that. Think people.. life ain't what it seems.... you're plugged into the Matrix, like the movie... and people like me are the Neo's and Trinitys.. the Morpheuses.. I know it's weird to hear that what you believe isn't the truth (or the whole truth), but try to realize people have been told lies by leaders throughout history... I love many American things.. some great culture has reached many people in the form of art and inventions. Tho I can't say it's worth all the lives that've been lost and the more I learned of the world the more I came to despise America. What am I now? A terrorist perhaps? At least.. I'm figuring that's how most Americans might react, like they used to with the red scare.

I myself am Bosnian by the way.. I'm white.. I'm whiter than ur usualy whitey even. I'm composed of slavic and turkish genes. A true caucasian, one might say (considering where the Caucasus lies). The war in Bosnia has led me to ask questions which took me years to answer. Like why the wars in Croatia and Slovenia ended so fast while the one in my country lasted for YEARS... a sad answer, but when I considered all the recent events in the world the answer is rather simple.. we Bosniaks are Islamic (we are the most modern muslims on the planet, I might add, Dubai ain't got sh*t on us, money can't buy evolution)... by the way.. totally random.. once i heard Ice Cube (with da lench mob) sing: killing more crackers than Bosnia :| Epic failure, you failed at knowing Cube.. you were supposed to be muslim urself.. or still are... lost track of Cube since then. as you might know the Islam is under attack, though no western leader will utter those exact words, but it is not their words you should consider in this case. You have to listen to a regular joe and what he has to say about the state of affairs... (read: what he has been lead to believe) Well... it's very racist and disrespectful.. not to mention uninformed and false. I met one guy from the dutch commandos who thought he knew it all. He was in Afghanistan for some time and he explained how all the Afghan people are rotten and they should be exterminated unless younger than 5 or something, he claims that he hasn't met more than 3 good people there. Tho he and his neanderthal intellect forget one thing, you invaded Afghanistan.. you might call it a peacemission... a preentive attack.. whatever. Afghans have been attacked by the Russians and now the Americans and their buddies. They don't like invaders obviously....

You see, the Islam is the least compatible with the New World Order "the man" is trying to establish... and partly also because of the location of most of the oil in this world the muslims of this world have had to endure quite a lot of crap. Not to mention Palestine.. this has created a doomscenario that fits right into an apocalypsic prophecy. I'm not against jews by the way, but I am against zionists and pro-zionists. Most non jew pro-zionists are misinformed and I have found many of the new generations of Israelis to not know crap. Brainwash... they think they have the right to be there, it says so in the Bible some said to me. The Bible? Isnt ur book the Torah? Peculiar.

read this quickly if u want to somewhat comprehend how long these plans have been in the making:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration_of_1917
presented by the British government to a Rothschild of all things.. theyre supposed to be jews, but this is questioned by many.. many also who are jews themselves. So line up the things... this was 1917 > World War 1 > World War 2 > Jews got Israel and no one thought it a bad thing.. the poor Jews had suffered so greatly after all. A little too conspicuous for my taste. Sounds just like a illuminati design, who are without a doubt brilliant individuals to come up with such things. It is an event of this magnitude that makes things possible, agreed? Things previously thought impossible.

Ever hear of the GEORGIA guidestones? They call it the American Stonehenge.
http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm

One of the messages:
THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES
1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

500 million? it's the first message even! well good luck with that.. throw another swine flu at us, let Africa die.. we'll get there
:|
Sigh.. well... it does work that way, doesn't it? People who haven't had a good life may start questioning the nature of things. People who have it good usually don't give a damn... but those who actually have it good and still care are no less than angels. More power to them!

eventho it is called the New World Order, rest assured it is the Anglo-American world order + allied western nations. They will sit at the top as they do now. The financial world can not be overtaken by another power, they made their riches in the slave era and during the crusades, which was as holy as Morticia.

Africa is still poor, my friends.. after more than a decade that song was brought out with the celebrities.. "we are the one, we are the children" remember that?... the western elite does not seek to bring prosperity there... keep em poor: get their resources for a low price... invest minimally and when they start asking for rights, better working conditions and higher salary: move on to the next poor country and repeat process.

Alas.. reality isn't rosy. In the end there may not be much that us believers can do.. but you know what? I've known what life is... how it really is... and there is some honor in that and I'm proud of it. Man has marvelled at the sky and imagined whole pantheons of gods to explain it's existence. Yet the things closer to us remain unexplained. I only hope that among those elite westerners there are some humane enough to defend us, tho I have little hope for that.

Watch that Obama Deception documentary with an unprejudiced mind... you may have your own ideas, but believe me, the people involved in the making of it are very intelligent and they deserve to be heard without being called names (by people who are most probably not even half as smart as they). Do not let others think for you.. not even me... do not follow blindly as sheep. Question, be skeptic, no harm can come from it. Search for answers and you will find plenty.. though you might not like them... as I didn't. but it's still worth it.

I'm just a guy who cares if you're wondering... and people need a wake up call. You think the British Empire has lost it's control of the US? The Yankees won? They just replaced the visible rule of the royalists with the invisible one of so-called freedom... and yea, they do not shun to create wars in order to create such illusions. Such big events are especially suited for brainwashing. (Pearl Harbour?) Twin towers.. most Americans stood like a bunch of sheep while Bush yearned them into a bloodthirst, thirsty for innocent blood... and innocents have died. And hh yea.. did everyone forget the assault on Lebanon by Israel?. you know what they used there? So called depleted uranium shells.. well, that's a misleading name.. theyre not so depleted at all.I for one believe the reason there is so much cancer in western europe is bcuz of Chernobyl.. that cloud pulled over here at the time. Tho in Bosnia for example people RARELY have cancer. Bird flu? Swine flu? 500.000.000 civilization cap.

Trust me when I say that "the man" rather has you thinking about the next episode of American Idol (no I dont watch that.. rarely watch TV) or something equally as UNIMPORTANT than that you become someone who asks inconvenient questions. *sigh* I myself have distractions in my life ofcourse, tho nothing nearly as commercial as that.. nor do I listen hiphop anymore. The rebels are not on the foreground anymore... they shut the rebelious voices up with money and bitchez. I have a nice oldskool collection though of which I'm proud. :) Where are the NOI, Black Power? Not that NOI is so grand.. they believe Elijah Muhammad was Allah.. that's just as unbelievable as what Rastafari believe in: that Hayle Selassi was Jah (God). but theyre rebels nonetheless.. Malcolm X, now he got to see the real Islam.. the Islam where there is no betrayer who is black.. the faith which incorporates all non-western races and he marveled at it. I'm not a practicioner of the faith but they are who I simpathize with the most. They have been wronged the most... heard of the Crusades? Throughout history and even in our present day the western world has done nothing but plant seeds of hate. Anyway people need to understand not all white people are bad, especially us Bosniaks... not sure about the christian slavs, like Russians who are Orthodox Christian... but the bolshewik revolution, when they killed the Czar was orchestrated by the west. As was Chinas turn to communism. Both regimes killed manyyyyyy people... and here's one of those clues you need to remember. David Rockefeller, supposed Illuminati (word for elitist/enlightened one as they call it themselves), and chairman of Chase Manhattan bank, he wrote an article in the New York times in the 70's! It was about China no less and his words go something like:
---the social experiment in China is a succes and I'm glad.---
what does that mean? tho they intend to bring communism to us? meaning we'll all be happy working shitty jobs, for foodstamps and live in a monotone concrete jungle where everyone is equal.. except them ofcourse..

quotes:
1973. After a trip to China, David Rockefeller praised Mao Tse-tung who had slaughtered over 40 million people. His report, "From a China Traveler," highlights the goals presented in UN reports such as "The Commission on Global Governance" and UNESCO's Our Creative Diversity. Both focus on lofty ideals such as peace, harmony and unity in the communitarian "global" village -- a vision that demands absolute control and universal participation in facilitated small groups (modeled by the hierarchy of "soviets" or councils in Communist lands):

1974. In his book, Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Anthony Sutton "documented the fact that Rockefeller and Morgan banks provided the Bolsheviks with loans, while American industry provided them with the plants and the technology thy needed. Westinghouse, Henry Ford, Averill Harriman, Armand Hammer, Exxon, and other American firms built the infrastructure that allowed the Soviet Union to survive." Dr. Stanley Monteith, Brotherhood of Darkness (Oklahoma City: Hearthstone Publishing, 2000), page 71

taken from here: http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brainwashing/rockefeller-mind-control.htm
cross-check the info if you're SKEPTIC!!!!! WHICH MEANS YOU'RE LEARNING!

All you niggas who say Kris is buggin are idiots. He doesn't have a voice anymore and it's a shame because this brotha has been right on almost everything politically. Dude knows his stuff. You cats are ignorant. Wait and see. Obama don't give a damn about any of yall. And you will see.

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