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The Bronx's DJ Doo Wop Puts the Vicodin King in His Place

Written by SOHH Reckless

Posted on June 5, 2008 7:14 AM

It's unbelievable how Lil Whoopi is telling these young, brainwashed people-- particularly teenagers-- to keep him in the same boat as Hov, Biggie, and Pac. Sickening. But then again, I can't really blame these kids for running with it; none of these three other rappers are in the height of their prominence any longer. Two of them are no longer alive. All three of them have lived out their heydays, and the teens of today were young children when these three were on top of their game. So why wouldn't they look at Weezer as one of the best?

If older people endorse Weezer's bullsh*t claim of top-dog status, then they're from the South. The remainder of us, however, take it with a grain of salt and keep it moving. So his little declaration means nothing. However, spitting on the very same DJs who embraced and helped him catapult the positioning in his career... eh, uhhh... that hurts. In response to this, one DJ purposely, maliciously, and vindictively leaked Tha Carter III album-- and announced it beforehand. And issued a pre-leak apology-- which actually added insult to injury. Now? DJ Doo Wop has something to say about Lil Whoopi's sky-high rampage:



Damn. That two minute black-out could've been fixed, fam. But the point is well-taken.

F*ck Lil Wayne. Follow DJ Chuck T's lead: don't buy Tha Carter III, dowload it for free!

Did anyone hear about Lil Whoopi's new endorsement with the new and improved Vicodin and Nyquil medicines? Instead of giving the rapper a multi-million dollar payoff, both companies agreed to provide him with a three year's free supply of both. This way-- unlike many actors and singers (both dead and alive)-- he'll never go broke from an expensive habit. Haha. J/K.

Speaking of payoffs, I wonder how much money these news outlets accepted to call Tha Carter III a "classic." LMFAO... damn shame. It seems that what Italy's Benito "Il Duce" Mussolini did to captivate the population and sweep them under the palms of his hands is the same thing Weezy's camp is doing: power by propaganda.

Use and abuse the media outlets! It works!


Oh yeah... and speaking of attacking the media outlets, Staten Island's AC is still on a roll. I like this beat. Peace to AC.

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-------> AC featuring Skyzoo "The Healing"

173 Comments

Wow...you worked a mussolini reference in there...you are so cultured!

I RESPECT LIL WAYNE HE BEEN IN THE GAME SINCE 97 HE NOT A MICROWAVE HERE TODAY GONE TOMMORROW RAPPER & HE FA DEF THO HAS SKILLS. BUT HE DID MAKE A MISCALCULATION HIM TRUSTING THE NEW YORK PEOPLE TO LOVE HIM WAS WRONG. NEW YORK HAS A HISTORY OF HATING ON Non EAST COAST RAPPERS LIST
1. GAYME-Although my heated rival from Brazil St He was boo'd @ summer jam in 06 just because Fif didn't like him
2. They wouldn't let MC Breed in the radio station when "Aint no future in your fronting" was the #1 single in the country
3. Shot up Dogg Pound Trailer because Biggie was Bitching on the radio about the diss they recorder & shot the vid in NY!!!
4.Death Row-Boo'd Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg @ the source awards 4 no reason and really STARTED THE East V West war in 88
5. LL Cool J disses Ice T w-the line "I saw ur album cover & wanted to take it to the Bathroom w/it." Later that year the infamous shooting of the Def Jam concert was by the LA Crips @ the forum in LA.
6. Dissed NWA for the California Jerry Curl. refusing to acknowledge there style & different culture.
7. Dissing Master P calling the No Limit Movement "Bama" and not giving any props to a guy that's grossed 400 mil and made 2 classics CD;s
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The more I read this the more I'm convinced that New Yorkers are going through Karma. They have hated & stepped on other regions so long that when theyre finnally down ain't no love for New Yorkers. I'll advise Lil Wayne Not to trust a New Yorker or their fan base their just a bunch of hating phucks. New York is just haters

Please don't say its just adults in the south who say lil wayne is the best. I am in no way a lil wayne fan and think the album is average at best, but damn I know people from all over who thought carter 3 was goin to be a masterpiece, so don't just condemn the south cause adults everywhere think he's the best

Lil Wayne: "I'm The Best Rapper Alive"

Them motherfuckers who always put Lil wayne on top of the best rapper/ hottest rapper list mostly are from NEW YORK... btw excellent point G-Unot Killa

lil wizzy iz a good kisser niccaz got a long tongue

I bet he out sells joe,rocko,flo rida, etc tha reason is like u said he is known and liked by 2 generations..and not just tha south bump him...he got luv everywhere

@G-UNOT KILLA,


Don't forget hating on OutKast because they won best new group, and hating on UGK saying how Jay-Z somehow made them - even though Ridin Dirty went gold with no radio play before they even did Big Pimpin.

G Unot Killa says...

5. LL Cool J disses Ice T w-the line "I saw ur album cover & wanted to take it to the Bathroom w/it." Later that year the infamous shooting of the Def Jam concert was by the LA Crips @ the forum in LA.

June 5, 2008 9:07 AM

@ G Unot Killa,

I remember reading about that incident when it happened, I could'nt help but 2 ask myself @ the time, "was it that serious?"

That's right GUnot Killa, it's Karma that the NYC is getting a dose of. But on the real, it's not even all of NY. It's just them stuck in the 90s backpack niggas. I got potnas from NY that bumb Jeezy, Wayne, and TI just as hard as anybody. Plus, look at the radio playlists up there. It's full of songs from the south. Something else to consider is the fact that most of the biggest rappers down south, including Lil Wayne do business with NY companies and NY rappers. So it's no way that Lil Wayne would be as big as he is now without a NY co-sign.


Even though it's a known fact that NY is full of crabs in a bucket, alot of NY folks got love for the south, west, and midwest. Niggas like Reckless are a minority.

Real Recognize Real says...
@G-UNOT KILLA,


Don't forget hating on OutKast because they won best new group, and hating on UGK saying how Jay-Z somehow made them - even though Ridin Dirty went gold with no radio play before they even did Big Pimpin.

June 5, 2008 9:53 AM


@ Real,

I gotta co-sign that UGK, my favorite song they did was "Pocket Full of Stones"

Niggas like Reckless are a minority.

June 5, 2008 10:12 AM


Sorry 'bout that, WHAMMY!!!!!!

white people is funny, always studying us
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barack giving his wife a pound
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24974371#24974371
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& Lets not forget the 2pac Quad shooting where all the prominent East Rappers were there & nobody knew anything?? Yeah Right.

# G-UNOT KILLA says...
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I RESPECT LIL WAYNE HE BEEN IN THE GAME SINCE 97 HE NOT A MICROWAVE HERE TODAY GONE TOMMORROW RAPPER & HE FA DEF THO HAS SKILLS. BUT HE DID MAKE A MISCALCULATION HIM TRUSTING THE NEW YORK PEOPLE TO LOVE HIM WAS WRONG. NEW YORK HAS A HISTORY OF HATING ON Non EAST COAST RAPPERS LIST
1. GAYME-Although my heated rival from Brazil St He was boo'd @ summer jam in 06 just because Fif didn't like him
2. They wouldn't let MC Breed in the radio station when "Aint no future in your fronting" was the #1 single in the country
3. Shot up Dogg Pound Trailer because Biggie was Bitching on the radio about the diss they recorder & shot the vid in NY!!!
4.Death Row-Boo'd Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg @ the source awards 4 no reason and really STARTED THE East V West war in 88
5. LL Cool J disses Ice T w-the line "I saw ur album cover & wanted to take it to the Bathroom w/it." Later that year the infamous shooting of the Def Jam concert was by the LA Crips @ the forum in LA.
6. Dissed NWA for the California Jerry Curl. refusing to acknowledge there style & different culture.
7. Dissing Master P calling the No Limit Movement "Bama" and not giving any props to a guy that's grossed 400 mil and made 2 classics CD;s

To be a Lil Whoopi fan is straight personal prefrence rather your from West,East,South etc.........Either you like him or you dont........HIP-HOP IS DEAD!!!!!!!!!!

Revealed: Secret plan to keep Iraq under US control Bush wants 50 military bases, control of Iraqi airspace and legal immunity for all American soldiers and contractors

By Patrick CockburnThursday, 5 June 2008

A secret deal being negotiated in Baghdad would perpetuate the American military occupation of Iraq indefinitely, regardless of the outcome of the US presidential election in November.

The terms of the impending deal, details of which have been leaked to The Independent, are likely to have an explosive political effect in Iraq.

Iraqi officials fear that the accord, under which US troops would occupy permanent bases, conduct military operations, arrest Iraqis and enjoy immunity from Iraqi law, will destabilise Iraq's position in the Middle East and lay the basis for unending conflict in their country.

But the accord also threatens to provoke a political crisis in the US.

President Bush wants to push it through by the end of next month so he can declare a military victory and claim his 2003 invasion has been vindicated.

But by perpetuating the US presence in Iraq, the long-term settlement would undercut pledges by the Democratic presidential nominee, Barack Obama, to withdraw US troops if he is elected president in November.

The timing of the agreement would also boost the Republican candidate, John McCain, who has claimed the United States is on the verge of victory in Iraq – a victory that he says Mr Obama would throw away by a premature military withdrawal.

America currently has 151,000 troops in Iraq and, even after projected withdrawals next month, troop levels will stand at more than 142,000 – 10 000 more than when the military "surge" began in January 2007.

Under the terms of the new treaty, the Americans would retain the long-term use of more than 50 bases in Iraq.

American negotiators are also demanding immunity from Iraqi law for US troops and contractors, and a free hand to carry out arrests and conduct military activities in Iraq without consulting the Baghdad government.

The precise nature of the American demands has been kept secret until now.

The leaks are certain to generate an angry backlash in Iraq.

"It is a terrible breach of our sovereignty," said one Iraqi politician, adding that if the security deal was signed it would delegitimise the government in Baghdad which will be seen as an American pawn.

The US has repeatedly denied it wants permanent bases in Iraq but one Iraqi source said: "This is just a tactical subterfuge."

Washington also wants control of Iraqi airspace below 29,000ft and the right to pursue its "war on terror" in Iraq, giving it the authority to arrest anybody it wants and to launch military campaigns without consultation.

Mr Bush is determined to force the Iraqi government to sign the so-called "strategic alliance" without modifications, by the end of next month.

But it is already being condemned by the Iranians and many Arabs as a continuing American attempt to dominate the region.

Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, the powerful and usually moderate Iranian leader, said yesterday that such a deal would create "a permanent occupation".

He added: "The essence of this agreement is to turn the Iraqis into slaves of the Americans."

Iraq's Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, is believed to be personally opposed to the terms of the new pact but feels his coalition government cannot stay in power without US backing.

The deal also risks exacerbating the proxy war being fought between Iran and the United States over who should be more influential in Iraq.

Although Iraqi ministers have said they will reject any agreement limiting Iraqi sovereignty, political observers in Baghdad suspect they will sign in the end and simply want to establish their credentials as defenders of Iraqi independence by a show of defiance now.

The one Iraqi with the authority to stop deal is the majority Shia spiritual leader, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani.

In 2003, he forced the US to agree to a referendum on the new Iraqi constitution and the election of a parliament.

But he is said to believe that loss of US support would drastically weaken the Iraqi Shia, who won a majority in parliament in elections in 2005.

The US is adamantly against the new security agreement being put to a referendum in Iraq, suspecting that it would be voted down.

The influential Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr has called on his followers to demonstrate every Friday against the impending agreement on the grounds that it compromises Iraqi independence.

The Iraqi government wants to delay the actual signing of the agreement but the office of Vice-President Dick Cheney has been trying to force it through.

The US ambassador in Baghdad, Ryan Crocker, has spent weeks trying to secure the accord.

The signature of a security agreement, and a parallel deal providing a legal basis for keeping US troops in Iraq, is unlikely to be accepted by most Iraqis.

But the Kurds, who make up a fifth of the population, will probably favour a continuing American presence, as will Sunni Arab political leaders who want US forces to dilute the power of the Shia.

The Sunni Arab community, which has broadly supported a guerrilla war against US occupation, is likely to be split.

I think a bunch of these DJs are overlooking the fact that some of them caked up off them Wayne tapes, while dude likely didnt see a dime. Its cool to see the "youngest in charge" attempt to make some shine off this bullshit, but seriously I dont think he was even in Waynes crosshairs. I keep asking, what would these DJs purpose be if they didnt get artist's singles or exclusives?

Iran threatens to sue Western nations

Thu Jun 5, 6:26 AM ET

VIENNA, Austria - Iran is threatening to sue countries that it says have damaged its reputation and pushed to have U.N. Security Council involvement in its nuclear program.

It is also accusing the United States of pressuring the International Atomic Energy Agency to base its latest probe of Iran's nuclear program on fake evidence suggesting Tehran has tried to make nuclear arms.

The comments were made Thursday to the 35-nation board of the IAEA by Ali Ashgar Soltanieh, Iran's chief delegate to the agency.

Revealed: Secret plan to keep Iraq under US control Bush wants 50 military bases, control of Iraqi airspace and legal immunity for all American soldiers and contractors

By Patrick CockburnThursday, 5 June 2008

Oh and encouraging downloading that mans hard work just because he stated a perhaps misguided opinion is a pussy move. Is it the in thing to knock a mans hustle now? I shed tears for the future.

Come on girl, yeah..it’s me Jackie Moon.
Don’t gimme that look, that’s right, let’s get sweaty, let’s get real sweaty
I’m talkin’ rainforest sweaty, I’m talkin’ swamp sweaty.
Let’s fill the bathtub full of sweat…alright.

Baby who wants to love me sexy uh?
Baby are you ready to lick me sexy uh uh?
Take off your shoes and suck me sexy
Baby we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy

I wanna do a little thing wit choo
I wanna do a little thing wit choo
When I say love me you say sexy
Love me ******* sexy
Back it on up and show and prove
That lovin’ me sexy is the thing to do
Your body says love me your mind says sexy
Love me sexy

Baby who wants to love me sexy uh?
Baby are you ready to lick me sexy uh uh?
Take off your shoes and suck me sexy
Baby we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy

Freak of the week are you in the mood
To fly to the stars with Jackie Moon
When I say love me you say sexy
Love me ******* sexy
Our Zodiac signs are compatible
Clocking that ass from across the room
Your body says love me your mind says sexy
Love me ******* sexy

Baby who wants to love me sexy uh?
Baby are you ready to lick me sexy uh uh?
Take off your shoes and suck me sexy
Baby we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy

That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.

Baby who wants to love me sexy uh?
Baby are you ready to lick me sexy uh uh?
Take off your shoes and suck me sexy
Baby we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
Who wants to love me sexy?
Is it you? Or is it you?
Are you ready to lick me sexy?
Is it you? Or is it you?
Take off your shoes and suck me sexy
Is it you? Or is it you?
Baby were naked and we’re humpin’ sexy.
Is it you? Or is it you?

Dre Guevara says...
G Unot Killa says...

5. LL Cool J disses Ice T w-the line "I saw ur album cover & wanted to take it to the Bathroom w/it." Later that year the infamous shooting of the Def Jam concert was by the LA Crips @ the forum in LA.

June 5, 2008 9:07 AM

@ G Unot Killa,

I remember reading about that incident when it happened, I could'nt help but 2 ask myself @ the time, "was it that serious?"
June 5, 2008 10:09 AM
^^^^Just for the record Ice T dissed LL first in his record "I'm Your Pusha" (one of my favs btw and I'm from BK); a little deeper than that Ice T was part of the Rhyme Syndicate, a group of rappers from different "sets" that established a bond (Ultramagnetic MCs, Ice T, Sir Ibu and the DFC=Divine Force Crew); a little history lesson, Ultra used to diss LL as well, and they from the BX, so that's why Ice T probably threw his diss in there, so when LL dissed Ice back, it didn't have nothing to do about coasts, just pure competitive hip hop, the way it used to be in the good ole hip hop days.

@Brooklyn B
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YES! I love it! HA! I guarantee they planned that too.
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And yo, did he slap her on the ass after he did it! HA! Now that's gangsta for real. lol
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What's up blog...ya'll keep it moving!
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CHRIST BLESS!
PZ

Hip hop fans better get your hip hop related comments in early b4 the Culture Club starts the Obama/Hillary lovefest, LOL!

FOR THE RECORD AND A HISTORY LESSON says...
Just for the record Ice T dissed LL first in his record "I'm Your Pusha" (one of my favs btw and I'm from BK); a little deeper than that Ice T was part of the Rhyme Syndicate, a group of rappers from different "sets" that established a bond (Ultramagnetic MCs, Ice T, Sir Ibu and the DFC=Divine Force Crew); a little history lesson, Ultra used to diss LL as well, and they from the BX, so that's why Ice T probably threw his diss in there, so
when LL dissed Ice back, it didn't have nothing to do about coasts, just pure competitive hip hop, the way it used to be in the good ole hip hop days.
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Then How do you explain the other disses for NO reason On other Rappers for other reason? & BTW DJ Drama is the biggest Lil Wayne D!ckrider in history

G-UNOT KILLA says...
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Then How do you explain the other disses for NO reason On other Rappers for other reason? & BTW DJ Drama is the biggest Lil Wayne D!ckrider in history
June 5, 2008 10:58 AM
^^^^^^Honestly I can't explain the other slights from NYC, I was just speakin on the Ice T/Kool Moe D/Hammer/Ultra vs LL battle.

The New YorK Times

Food Is Gold, So Billions Invested in Farming

By DIANA B. HENRIQUESPublished: June 05, 2008

Huge investment funds have already poured hundreds of billions of dollars into booming financial markets for commodities like wheat, corn and soybeans.

But a few big private investors are starting to make bolder and longer-term bets that the world's need for food will greatly increase - by buying farmland, fertilizer, grain elevators and shipping equipment.

One has bought several ethanol plants, Canadian farmland and enough storage space in the Midwest to hold millions of bushels of grain.

Another is buying more than five dozen grain elevators, nearly that many fertilizer distribution outlets and a fleet of barges and ships.

And three institutional investors, including the giant BlackRock fund group in New York, are separately planning to invest hundreds of millions of dollars in agriculture, chiefly farmland, from sub-Saharan Africa to the English countryside.

"It's going on big time," said Brad Cole, president of Cole Partners Asset Management in Chicago, which runs a fund of hedge funds focused on natural resources.

"There is considerable interest in what we call 'owning structure' - like United States farmland, Argentine farmland, English farmland - wherever the profit picture is improving."

These new bets by big investors could bolster food production at a time when the world needs more of it.

The investors plan to consolidate small plots of land into more productive large ones, to introduce new technology and to provide capital to modernize and maintain grain elevators and fertilizer supply depots.

But the long-term implications are less clear.

Some traditional players in the farm economy, and others who study and shape agriculture policy, say they are concerned these newcomers will focus on profits above all else, and not share the industry's commitment to farming through good times and bad.

"Farmland can be a bubble just like Florida real estate," said Jeffrey Hainline, president of Advance Trading, a 28-year-old commodity brokerage firm and consulting service in Bloomington, Ill.

"The cycle of getting in and out would be very volatile and disruptive."

By owning land and other parts of the agricultural business, these new investors are freed from rules aimed at curbing the number of speculative bets that they and other financial investors can make in commodity markets.

"I just wonder if they need some sheep's clothing to put on," Mr. Hainline said.

Mark Lapolla, an adviser to institutional investors, is also a bit wary of the potential disruption this new money could cause.

"It is important to ask whether these financial investors want to actually operate the means of production - or simply want to have a direct link into the physical supply of commodities and thereby reduce the risk of their speculation," he said.

Grain elevators, especially, could give these investors new ways to make money, because they can buy or sell the actual bushels of corn or soybeans, rather than buying and selling financial derivatives that are linked to those commodities.

When crop prices are climbing, holding inventory for future sale can yield higher profits than selling to meet current demand, for example.

Or if prices diverge in different parts of the world, inventory can be shipped to the more profitable market.

"It's a huge disadvantage to not be able to trade the physical commodity," said Andrew J. Redleaf, founder of Whitebox Advisors, a hedge fund management firm in Minneapolis.

Mr. Redleaf bought several large grain elevator complexes from ConAgra and Cargill last year for a long-term stake in what he sees as a high-growth business.

The elevators can store 36 million bushels of grain.

"We discovered that our lease customers, major food company types, are really happy to see us, because they are apt to see Cargill and ConAgra as competitors," he said.

The executives making such bets say that fears about their new role are unfounded, and that their investments will be a plus for farming and, ultimately, for consumers.

"The world is asking for more food, more energy. You see a huge demand," said Axel Hinsch, chief executive of Calyx Agro, a division of the giant Louis Dreyfus Commodities, which is buying tens of thousands of acres of cropland in Brazil with the backing of big institutional investors, including AIG Investments.

"What this new investment will buy is more technology," Mr. Hinsch said.

"We will be helping to accelerate the development of infrastructure, and the consumer will benefit because there will be more supply."

Financial investors also can provide grain elevator operators the money they need to weather today's more volatile commodity markets.

When wild swings in prices become common, as they are now, elevator operators have to put up more cash to lock in future prices.

John Duryea, co-portfolio manager of the Ospraie Special Opportunity Fund, is buying 66 grain elevators with a total capacity of 110 million bushels from ConAgra for $2.1 billion.

The deal, expected to close by the end of June, also will give Ospraie a stake in 57 fertilizer distribution centers and the barges and ships necessary to keep them supplied with low-cost imports.

Maintaining these essential services "helps bring costs down to the farmers," Mr. Duryea said.

"That has to help mitigate the price increases for crops."

Mr. Duryea of the Ospraie fund dismissed the idea that financial investors, with obligations to suppliers and customers of their elevators and fertilizer services, would put their thumb on the supply-demand scale by holding back inventory to move prices artificially.

"It is not in our best interests for anyone to be negatively affected by what we do," he said.

Perhaps the most ambitious plans are those of Susan Payne, founder and chief executive of Emergent Asset Management, based near London.

Emergent is raising $450 million to $750 million to invest in farmland in sub-Saharan Africa, where it plans to consolidate small plots into more productive holdings and introduce better equipment.

Emergent also plans to provide clinics and schools for local labor.

One crop and a source of fuel for farming operations will be jatropha, an oil-seed plant useful for biofuels that is grown in sandy soil unsuitable for food production, Ms. Payne said.

"We are getting strong response from institutional investors - pensions, insurance companies, endowments, some sovereign wealth funds," she said.

The fund chose Africa because "land values are very, very inexpensive, compared to other agriculture-based economies," she said.

"Its microclimates are enticing, allowing a range of different crops. There's accessible labor. And there's good logistics - wide open roads, good truck transport, sea transport."

The Emergent fund is one of a growing roster of farmland investment funds based in Britain.

Last October, the London branch of BlackRock introduced the BlackRock Agriculture Fund, aiming to raise $200 million to invest in fertilizer production, timberland and biofuels.

The fund currently stands at more than $450 million.

Braemar Group, near Manchester, is investing exclusively in Britain.

"Britain is a nice, stable northwestern European economy with the same climate and quality of soil as northwestern Europe," said Marc Duschenes, Braemar's chief executive.

"But our land is at a 50 percent discount to Ireland and Denmark. We just haven't caught up yet."

Europe, like the United States, is facing mandated increases in biofuel production, he said, and cropland near new ethanol facilities in the northeast of England will be the first source of supply.

"No one is going to put a ton of grain on a boat in Latin America and ship it to the northeast of England to turn it into bioethanol," he said.

For Gary R. Blumenthal, chief executive of World Perspectives, an agriculture consulting firm in Washington, the new investments by big financial players, if sustained, could be just what global agriculture needs - "where you can bring small, fragmented pieces together to boost the production side of agriculture."

He added: "Investment funds are seeing that this consolidation brings value to them.

But I'm saying this brings value to everyone."

PZ says...
@Brooklyn B
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YES! I love it! HA! I guarantee they planned that too.
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And yo, did he slap her on the ass after he did it! HA! Now that's gangsta for real. lol
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What's up blog...ya'll keep it moving!
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CHRIST BLESS!
PZ

June 5, 2008 10:55 AM
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no one can deny how ill barack is and his wife is a down as/s women. oh yeah he did give that arse a tap, lol.

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but peep this its funny
another crazy white people moment
http://view.break.com/513310

FOR THE RECORD AND A HISTORY LESSON says...
Dre Guevara says...
G Unot Killa says...

5. LL Cool J disses Ice T w-the line "I saw ur album cover & wanted to take it to the Bathroom w/it." Later that year the infamous shooting of the Def Jam concert was by the LA Crips @ the forum in LA.

June 5, 2008 9:07 AM

@ G Unot Killa,

I remember reading about that incident when it happened, I could'nt help but 2 ask myself @ the time, "was it that serious?"
June 5, 2008 10:09 AM
^^^^Just for the record Ice T dissed LL first in his record "I'm Your Pusha" (one of my favs btw and I'm from BK); a little deeper than that Ice T was part of the Rhyme Syndicate, a group of rappers from different "sets" that established a bond (Ultramagnetic MCs, Ice T, Sir Ibu and the DFC=Divine Force Crew); a little history lesson, Ultra used to diss LL as well, and they from the BX, so that's why Ice T probably threw his diss in there, so when LL dissed Ice back, it didn't have nothing to do about coasts, just pure competitive hip hop, the way it used to be in the good ole hip hop days.

June 5, 2008 10:52 AM

B4 the rappers started walking around with a chip on their shoulders

FOR THE RECORD AND A HISTORY LESSON says...
Hip hop fans better get your hip hop related comments in early b4 the Culture Club starts the Obama/Hillary lovefest, LOL!

June 5, 2008 10:56 AM

Get yo' big Karma Chameleon shirt wearin' @$$ outta here

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That was hilarious. That was a lot of scared white people. lol

HipHop moves around, dumbasses. It hops to and fro with each area getting their shine. Its all about "the next best thing" HipHop had become Pop music, its infused in every genre now. The hey-days of real actual insightful hiphop DOMINATING the airwaves are a WRAP. When the artform is no longer multi-billion dollar profitable is the only time when the true music will shine through. Unfortunatley, growing up, people in my generation were spoiled. We had the greats, the classic albums / artists and they were on the radio and video daily.
This music scape is the choice of the newest generation, and it dosent belong to us. So we will comtinue to appreciate here and there certin artists who do their thing on a bigtime level, and still keep it hiphop. (Basicly, Nas) until hiphop hits rock bottom, and can rise from the ashes like a phoenix.
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"Its only when we've lost everything, that we're able to do anything" - Tyler Durden
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Peace, Bitches.

Culture CLub? says...
FOR THE RECORD AND A HISTORY LESSON says...
Hip hop fans better get your hip hop related comments in early b4 the Culture Club starts the Obama/Hillary lovefest, LOL!

June 5, 2008 10:56 AM

Get yo' big Karma Chameleon shirt wearin' @$$ outta here

June 5, 2008 11:20 AM

FOR THE RECORD AND A HISTORY LESSON says...
Hip hop fans better get your hip hop related comments in early b4 the Culture Club starts the Obama/Hillary lovefest, LOL!

June 5, 2008 10:56 AM

Short Sighted Niggers Suck says...
HipHop moves around, dumbasses. It hops to and fro with each area getting their shine. Its all about "the next best thing" HipHop had become Pop music, its infused in every genre now. The hey-days of real actual insightful hiphop DOMINATING the airwaves are a WRAP. When the artform is no longer multi-billion dollar profitable is the only time when the true music will shine through. Unfortunatley, growing up, people in my generation were spoiled. We had the greats, the classic albums / artists and they were on the radio and video daily.
This music scape is the choice of the newest generation, and it dosent belong to us. So we will comtinue to appreciate here and there certin artists who do their thing on a bigtime level, and still keep it hiphop. (Basicly, Nas) until hiphop hits rock bottom, and can rise from the ashes like a phoenix.
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"Its only when we've lost everything, that we're able to do anything" - Tyler Durden
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Peace, Bitches.

June 5, 2008 11:32 AM
^^^^^^^^Co-sign your post, cause it appears we from that same generation, that's why um holdin on to a thin string w/the artists from those days, like NAS, Boot Camp Click, Wu Tang, Killah Priest, etc., until their offspring can bring to the table what they hopefully inherit from their parents, LOL

PZ says...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That was hilarious. That was a lot of scared white people. lol

June 5, 2008 11:25 AM
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i think that was fake
what u think?

FOR THE RECORD AND A HISTORY LESSON
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Well if Lil Eazy is any example, we're in trouble.

I mean, remember when you had Tash, Raekwon, CNN, Wu, Nas, Jay, Big, Puff, Bone Thugs, all that on the radio daily?
Albums like "The War Report" "Ready To Die" "All Eyez On Me" "Murda Musik" "Blackout" "Illmatic"
I mean, damn, name Three classic albums made after year 2002.

DUDES FRM NY ARE NOTORIOUS HATERS....BUT ITS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WERE YOUR FROM(THT JUST MAKES IT WORSE)... I'M BORN AND RAISED IN NY AND GET HATED ON EVERYDAY .THE PROBLEM IS, IN NY YOU GOTTA PROVE YOURSELF AND WE ARE STILL NOT TO SURE ABOUT WAYNE....AFTER THE SNOOP SOURCE INCIDENT,HE KEPT PUTTING IT DOWN AND WE GAVE HIM HIS PROPS.ICE T,WE NEVER HATED ON HIM.WE EMBRACED CUBE WHEN HE WAS CHASED OUT OF LA.TI, THE BIGGEST DOWN SOUTH RAPPER LOVES NY AN WE LOVE HIM...MATTER OF FACT,HIS PARTNER IS FROM NY AND BRING EM OUT(ONE OF HIS BIGGEST SINGLES THAT HELPED POP HIM)AS DRIVEN BY A JAY Z SAMPLE AND PRODUCTION BY SWIZZ BEATS(TWO NEW YORKERS)...WAYNES RECENT SUCCESS IS MAINLY DUE TO HIS NEW SWAGGER AND SYLE OF LYRICS,WHICH WAS CLEARLY STOLEN FROM NY RAPPERS.HIS NEW FOND STYLE WAS CLEARLY JACKED FROM JAY Z WITH A SOUTHERN DRAWL.HIS SWAGGER WAS STOLEN FROM DIPSET ALL DAY...I COULD TYPE THIS FOR DAYS AND KEEP BREAKING IT DOWN ,BUT BASICALLY,THERES ALOT OF RAPPERS N NY WHO ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT IN THE RAP GAME WHO WOULD'NT GET PAST A MIXTAPE STEALING JAY Z OR DIPSETS STLYE,SO WHY IS FAIR FOR DOWN SOUTH DUDES TO MAKE MILLIONS OFF IT????STOP SWAGGER JACKIN...ALL ROADS TRAVEL THROUGH NY AND ALWAYS WILL...SCARFACE IS THE BEST RAPPER EVER IN THE SOUTH,NEVER JACKED ANYBODYS STYLE (MATTER OF FACT WAS A HUGE INFLUENCE ON 2 PAC).AND NEW YORKERS BUY MORE OF HIS ALBUMS THAN DOWN SOUTH DUDES DO.SO, PLEASE,BEFORE YOU CRTICIZE DUDES WHO ARE OPEN HATERS,TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHY...THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IS PACKAGING NY RAPPERS FROM THE SOUTH AND ACTING LIKE WE LOST IT...ONE

brooklyn b says...
PZ says...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That was hilarious. That was a lot of scared white people. lol

June 5, 2008 11:25 AM
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i think that was fake
what u think?

June 5, 2008 11:47 AM
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I think Obama may just be Black-ish enough to enjoy my S.E.A.L.S. CD, I think Im going to send him a copy!

PZ says...
brooklyn b says...
PZ says...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That was hilarious. That was a lot of scared white people. lol

June 5, 2008 11:25 AM
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i think that was fake
what u think?

June 5, 2008 11:47 AM
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I think Obama may just be Black-ish enough to enjoy my S.E.A.L.S. CD, I think Im going to send him a copy!

June 5, 2008 11:53 AM
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blackish????
and the other day u said spook.............
im on the phone with al sharpton right now, patna!

@ BK B & PZ
"closed fist high five" ahahah
mane where is their swag at?
and that dude snapped in da office mane dat sh1t was crazy! he hit dude and da head wit a keyboard and threw a computer at shorty remind me of the movie office space AHAHA

Shortsighted Niggers Suck says...
FOR THE RECORD AND A HISTORY LESSON
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Well if Lil Eazy is any example, we're in trouble.

I mean, remember when you had Tash, Raekwon, CNN, Wu, Nas, Jay, Big, Puff, Bone Thugs, all that on the radio daily?
Albums like "The War Report" "Ready To Die" "All Eyez On Me" "Murda Musik" "Blackout" "Illmatic"
I mean, damn, name Three classic albums made after year 2002.
June 5, 2008 11:48 AM
^^^^^Good point with Lil Easy. I was watching my BootCamp Click: Underground Surveillance DVD; one of the videos had the whole click and all their children in it, and I was thinkin, (selfishly) hurry up and grow up fast and bring some better quality hip hop back. DJs gotta take their share of the blame too; not to single him out, but I remember when Funkmaster Flex was young and hungry and played a whole variety of artists, including underground, but it seems that payola got to him. And for the record (again, LOL), the only reason an artist is consider underground is because these damn DJs don't give them no shine; if they did, maybe they will get more exposure/recognition and become more well known universally, IMO; um probably just a dreamer that it could be just that simple!

haha says...
@ BK B & PZ
"closed fist high five" ahahah
mane where is their swag at?
and that dude snapped in da office mane dat sh1t was crazy! he hit dude and da head wit a keyboard and threw a computer at shorty remind me of the movie office space AHAHA

June 5, 2008 12:01 PM
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the crazy office thing was funny, i watched it like 3 times to see the other people reactions.
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close fist high five. i was buggin on 2 things
1) white people never saw black people give a pound?
and
2)was the "research" really neccessary?? lmao at the reporter who asked the black man what "that" was and he said, uh, i call it a pound, lol

Diplomats From U.S. and Britain Held in Zimbabwe

By CELIA W. DUGGER and GRAHAM BOWLEY Published: June 06, 2008

JOHANNESBURG - A contingent of American diplomats investigating the political situation in Zimbabwe were chased by the police in their car on Thursday, stopped at a roadblock and detained, American officials said.

The diplomats were released from custody after five hours, according to the American ambassador to Zimbabwe, William McGee.

A team of British diplomats was also detained and released along with the Americans.

During a car chase of over 6 miles, the police tried to force the American diplomats off the road.

When they were finally stopped, all four tires of their white S.U.V. were slashed and a local security official was punched.

The diplomats were part of a convoy of three vehicles from the American and British embassies in Harare.

The diplomats from the two countries were at a town about 55 miles north of the capital, Harare, this morning where they were talking to activists belonging to the Movement for Democratic Change, the main opposition party, and victims of political violence when they were approached by police officers and ordered to a nearby police station.

The diplomats refused and set off in different directions.

One car, containing American diplomats, took back roads and reached Harare safely.

The second American car took the main road back to Harare before it was stopped at the roadblock north of the capital, near Mazoe.

The British car was stopped at the same roadblock, the ambassador said.

Mr. McGee, who has been outspoken about state-sponsored violence against the opposition party, was not part of the convoy.

The police officers who apprehended the diplomats were joined by military officers and war veterans who pulled a gun on the diplomats, another American official said.

The American diplomats were told their car would be burned if they did not get out of the car.

On Wednesday, the Zimbabwean police detained Morgan Tsvangirai, the main opposition leader who placed first in Zimbabwe's March elections and now faces a runoff with President Robert Mugabe in a vote scheduled for June 27.

Mr. Tsvangirai was held for nine hours and charged with drawing a big crowd before being released.

Amnesty International condemned his detention as part of a "sharp and dangerous crackdown" that has included killings, torture and the intimidation of the political opposition ahead of this month's runoff.

Last month, Mr. Mugabe threatened to expel Mr. McGee, accusing him of meddling in the country's internal affairs.

Mr. McGee, who had been in cell phone contact with the detained diplomats, sent an embassy security official to assist the diplomats, but the official was also detained.

The New York Times

Diplomats From U.S. and Britain Held in Zimbabwe

By CELIA W. DUGGER and GRAHAM BOWLEY Published: June 06, 2008

JOHANNESBURG - A contingent of American diplomats investigating the political situation in Zimbabwe were chased by the police in their car on Thursday, stopped at a roadblock and detained, American officials said.

The diplomats were released from custody after five hours, according to the American ambassador to Zimbabwe, William McGee.

A team of British diplomats was also detained and released along with the Americans.

During a car chase of over 6 miles, the police tried to force the American diplomats off the road.

When they were finally stopped, all four tires of their white S.U.V. were slashed and a local security official was punched.

The diplomats were part of a convoy of three vehicles from the American and British embassies in Harare.

The diplomats from the two countries were at a town about 55 miles north of the capital, Harare, this morning where they were talking to activists belonging to the Movement for Democratic Change, the main opposition party, and victims of political violence when they were approached by police officers and ordered to a nearby police station.

The diplomats refused and set off in different directions.

One car, containing American diplomats, took back roads and reached Harare safely.

The second American car took the main road back to Harare before it was stopped at the roadblock north of the capital, near Mazoe.

The British car was stopped at the same roadblock, the ambassador said.

Mr. McGee, who has been outspoken about state-sponsored violence against the opposition party, was not part of the convoy.

The police officers who apprehended the diplomats were joined by military officers and war veterans who pulled a gun on the diplomats, another American official said.

The American diplomats were told their car would be burned if they did not get out of the car.

On Wednesday, the Zimbabwean police detained Morgan Tsvangirai, the main opposition leader who placed first in Zimbabwe's March elections and now faces a runoff with President Robert Mugabe in a vote scheduled for June 27.

Mr. Tsvangirai was held for nine hours and charged with drawing a big crowd before being released.

Amnesty International condemned his detention as part of a "sharp and dangerous crackdown" that has included killings, torture and the intimidation of the political opposition ahead of this month's runoff.

Last month, Mr. Mugabe threatened to expel Mr. McGee, accusing him of meddling in the country's internal affairs.

Mr. McGee, who had been in cell phone contact with the detained diplomats, sent an embassy security official to assist the diplomats, but the official was also detained.

Common Launches The Corner Book Club
Published Thursday, June 05, 2008 11:00 AM
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By Chris Richburg
Chicago-based rapper/actor Common is spearheading a new effort to encourage youth to read.

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The entertainer, who will soon be seen alongside Angelina Jolie and Morgan Freeman in the movie Wanted, is using his Common Ground Foundation to launch The Corner, a national online book club designed to develop critical thinking skills among participants while giving them a chance to discuss current reading selections.

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The club, which is open to students age 13-18, will feature a list of recommended books that promote messages of tolerance, compassion and nonviolent expressions of achieving social justice.

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In addition to reading The Corner’s book of the month, members can blog with each other about relevant topics and have a chance to participate in a live online chat with Common Ground Foundation staff.
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The Corner will also feature interviews each month with celebrity artists who will talk about their favorite books and why reading is so important to them.

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Book club members can participate in a national the Common Ground Challenge sponsored by the Foundation.
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Winners will have their essay posted on the Common Ground Foundation website as well as a chance to meet Common.

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The Corner’s launch comes amid news of Common being selected for the American Library Association (ALA) READ Campaign poster and National Young Adult Library Services Association ("YALSA") Teen Read Week initiative.


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To sign up for The Corner book club, visit http://www.commongroundfoundation.org.

FOR THE RECORD AND A HISTORY LESSON
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I completely agree, have you heard Ghostface's son? At least Im pretty sure it was Ghost's son, It may have been GZA's son, but one of the WU's son was rappin on this sheit my boy had, and that kid was CRAZY ill. But theses kids now, they dont know what "Lyricsm" even means, and they dont know that HipHop is supposed to be socio-political commentary, they dont even ASK for substance. The music is always going to be geared twords the market that purchases it. I.E. The Younger Generation and their purchases pretty much dictate the material that is popular. Now alot of that has been lost with payola/programming. But when you have kids saying that Wayne is .lyrical, or Wayne is the best alive, you know you're in trouble, because that means that this generation of kids has no idea what "Lyricsm" really is, and what Lyrical Content actually means.
As far as DJs, I remember when Djs actually made beats. They were Dj/Producers not just playing records and screaming over them and saying the same sh!t over and over, I hate that sh!t so much. These Djs dont cut, scratch, fade, chop, anything, they just play records and yell. Its so damn retarded.

The Corner Book Club

The Corner Book Club

lmao @ the social clubbers new name says...
The Corner Book Club
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I CO-SIGN THE BITCHASSNESS THE CORNER BOOK CLUB IS HEADED BY BROOKLYN B THE ASHY FEET SANDLE WEARING HOE @SS HE IS A UTTER & COMPLETE B!TCH

Shortsighted Niggers Suck says...
FOR THE RECORD AND A HISTORY LESSON
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I completely agree, have you heard Ghostface's son? At least Im pretty sure it was Ghost's son, It may have been GZA's son, but one of the WU's son was rappin on this sheit my boy had, and that kid was CRAZY ill. But theses kids now, they dont know what "Lyricsm" even means, and they dont know that HipHop is supposed to be socio-political commentary, they dont even ASK for substance. The music is always going to be geared twords the market that purchases it. I.E. The Younger Generation and their purchases pretty much dictate the material that is popular. Now alot of that has been lost with payola/programming. But when you have kids saying that Wayne is .lyrical, or Wayne is the best alive, you know you're in trouble, because that means that this generation of kids has no idea what "Lyricsm" really is, and what Lyrical Content actually means.
As far as DJs, I remember when Djs actually made beats. They were Dj/Producers not just playing records and screaming over them and saying the same sh!t over and over, I hate that sh!t so much. These Djs dont cut, scratch, fade, chop, anything, they just play records and yell. Its so damn retarded.

June 5, 2008 12:32 PM
I'm not %100 sure, but that mighta been GZA's son; agree with all your comments too! The same way we are hangin on to the NAS's etc. we need to do the same with DJ Premiers etc. I could kick my own azz for switching from DISH Network to Verizon Fios, cause Preemo has/had? a 2-hour show on Sirius Satellite radio (free w/Dish Network package) Friday nights from midnight- 2 AM, and he cut and scratch the way it IS SUPPOSED TO BE! NEways um off to lunch to listen to some Natural Elements (Mr. Vudu, L Swift, A Butta, the REAL Charlamagne on the beats (not that clown w/Wendy Williams, I hope they not the same person))

G-UNOT KILLA says...
lmao @ the social clubbers new name says...
The Corner Book Club
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I CO-SIGN THE BITCHASSNESS THE CORNER BOOK CLUB IS HEADED BY BROOKLYN B THE ASHY FEET SANDLE WEARING HOE @SS HE IS A UTTER & COMPLETE B!TCH

June 5, 2008 12:44 PM
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go play in the highway

@ BKB:

That's a good look on Common's part. Literacy (or the lack of) in America is a huge problem. Big up 2 Common.

By the way - i am Obama and Hillary Fatigued. My focus has turned to the NBA finals.


This one is a little hard for me to call. I think LA in 6 or Boston in 7. It really depends on which Celtic team show up. One last thought on the finals iand that is that Basketball (at least the NBA) is almost completely European now. Basketball use to be our way out of poverty but these Eurpean Mothaf*ckas are taking over.

The Lakers have about 7 m*thaf*ckas on their squad who are all from Europe and one cat who is from West Africa. Sh8T we are losing everything, sun. Other than Kobe (who grew up partly in Germany and partly in a Philly surburb) Lamar Odom, Derek Fischer and Luke Walton the rest of that squad were born and raised outside of the U.S.

Man we lost Jazz, Hip Hop (real Hip Hop) and now Basketball. Like Richard Pryor said "Hold onto your d8cks before thay take that away from us too"

Man we have stop taking these economic and cultural losses, B.

Anyway, peace to the real.

Bigup2bk says...
@ BKB:

That's a good look on Common's part. Literacy (or the lack of) in America is a huge problem. Big up 2 Common.

By the way - i am Obama and Hillary Fatigued. My focus has turned to the NBA finals.


This one is a little hard for me to call. I think LA in 6 or Boston in 7. It really depends on which Celtic team show up. One last thought on the finals iand that is that Basketball (at least the NBA) is almost completely European now. Basketball use to be our way out of poverty but these Eurpean Mothaf*ckas are taking over.

The Lakers have about 7 m*thaf*ckas on their squad who are all from Europe and one cat who is from West Africa. Sh8T we are losing everything, sun. Other than Kobe (who grew up partly in Germany and partly in a Philly surburb) Lamar Odom, Derek Fischer and Luke Walton the rest of that squad were born and raised outside of the U.S.

Man we lost Jazz, Hip Hop (real Hip Hop) and now Basketball. Like Richard Pryor said "Hold onto your d8cks before thay take that away from us too"

Man we have stop taking these economic and cultural losses, B.

Anyway, peace to the real.
June 5, 2008 12:52 PM
^^^^It HAS to be the Celtics, u got 3 HUNGRY CATS lookin for their 1st title vs Kobe and wish-washy sometimey Lamar Odom and Gasol. Garnett should be sayin like NAS said "I, WILL, NOT, LOSE!"

1 more thing
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I really don't watch sports like that anyway. I will be logging on my account @ Blacktgirls.com and watching thickass black tranny do their thing. I really act like I know things but all in all I'm really an insecure person w/ no idea what the hell I'm talking about
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@BKB
Dogg I want to tell you that those personal pics you sent was str8 fire. I especially like the bathtub shots. I'll be coming over after I get off 2nite. I just have to clean 2 more bathrooms then I'm done. See you soon

FOR THE RECORD AND A HISTORY LESSON
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Yeah, I knew it was either Ghost or Gza, but now Im thinkin it was for sure Gza now that you said that.
Theres a couple producers out there that are good, Polow, Storch, Preemo-still doin it. But now its all shop around beats and who the "hip" producer is. Back in 03-05 it wass Storch now from 06-Current its Timbo and Polow.
Its just not the same as sitting down, with one producer, and crafting an album. From start to finish, same producer on every track.
Theres no soul in the music anymore, no sense of urgency to be heard, or purpose in doing so. Its all about dollars now. Mainstream music at least, but if you scratcht the surface there is a TON of lyrical talent sitting on record label shelves everywhere.
I told my boy yesterday, I was like, now i know why they call it "Island Def Jam" cause when rappers sign to them they disappear like the show LOST and they're stuck on that b!tch, LMAO!

^^^^It HAS to be the Celtics, u got 3 HUNGRY CATS lookin for their 1st title vs Kobe and wish-washy sometimey Lamar Odom and Gasol. Garnett should be sayin like NAS said "I, WILL, NOT, LOSE!"
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Yo, Forreal. If I was Doc Gooden, Id send someone out to Nancy Kerrigan Gasoul in the hotel lobby, BAM like Emirl nigger. Chiggidy Check!! lmao!

@NIMROD

Do you find anything in this article peculiar???

The New York Times

Senate Panel Finds Iraq Intelligence Exaggerations

By SCOTT SHANE Published: June 05, 2008

WASHINGTON - In a report long delayed by partisan squabbling, the Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday accused President Bush and Vice President Cheney of taking the country to war in Iraq by exaggerating evidence of links between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda in the emotional aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

"The president and his advisers undertook a relentless public campaign in the aftermath of the attacks to use the war against Al Qaeda as a justification for overthrowing Saddam Hussein," Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV, the committee's Democratic chairman, said in a statement accompanying the 171-page report.

The committee's report cited some instances in which public statements by senior administration officials were not supported by the intelligence available at the time, such as suggestions that Saddam Hussein's Iraq and Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda were operating in a kind of partnership, that the Baghdad regime had provided the terrorist network with weapons training, and that one of the Sept. 11 hijackers had met an Iraqi intelligence operative in Prague in 2001.

But the report found that on several key issues, including Iraq's alleged nuclear, biological and chemical weapons programs, public statements from Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney and other top officials before the war were generally "substantiated" by the best estimates of the intelligence agencies, though the statements did not always reflect the agencies' uncertainty about the evidence.

All the weapons claims were disproved after invading troops found no unconventional arsenal and little effort to build one.

Republicans on the committee sharply dissented from some of its findings and attached a detailed minority report that listed pre-war statements by Mr. Rockefeller and other Democrats describing the threat posed by Iraq.

"The report released today was a waste of committee time and resources that should have been spent overseeing the intelligence community," said the minority report, signed by Sen. Christopher S. Bond of Missouri, the committee's top Republican, and three Republican colleagues.

A second committee report, also made public on Thursday, detailed a series of clandestine meetings between Pentagon officials and Iranian dissidents in Rome and Paris in 2001 and 2003.

It accused Steven Hadley, now the national security advisor, and Paul Wolfowitz, the former deputy defense secretary, of failing to properly inform the intelligence agencies and the State Department about the meetings.

The two reports are the final parts of the committee's so-called "phase two" investigation of pre-war intelligence on Iraq and related issues.

The first phase of the inquiry, completed in July 2004, identified grave faults in the intelligence agencies' collection and analysis of the threat posed by Saddam Hussein.

In order to complete that initial 2004 report, committee members agreed to put off several of the more politically volatile topics.

Sen. Pat Roberts, the Kansas Republican who was then chairman, nonetheless declared nearly four years ago that the phase two effort was "a priority.

I made my commitment and it will get done.

But a lengthy standoff ensued.

Democrats accused Republicans of dodging their demands to complete the inquiry in order to protect the Bush administration from damaging revelations.

Republicans insisted that they were not dragging their feet and asserted that the findings might well turn out to embarrass Congressional Democrats.

In September 2006, the committee issued reports on two parts of the phase two study, one on how pre-war assessments of Iraq's weapons programs and links to terrorism compared with post-war findings and another on the intelligence agencies' use of information from the Iraqi National Congress, the controversial opposition group to Saddam Hussein.

In May 2007, the committee, now led by Democrats, put out a third part of the phase two review, this one examining pre-war predictions by the intelligence agencies about post-war Iraq.

But it would take another year to complete the most delicate part of the planned inquiry, the look at pre-war public statements by executive branch officials.

In the end, the Republicans chose to issue their own dissenting report, aimed at showing that some Democrats who have been eager to attack the administration had themselves made bellicose comments about Saddam Hussein and the threat he posed.

The Senate Intelligence Committee, once seen as a relative refuge from the political maneuvering and brawling that characterizes many other committees, has been mired in partisan dispute for most of the last five years.

Thursday's reports and the polarized comments accompanying them are unlikely to improve relations between Mr. Rockefeller and Mr. Bond and their party colleagues on the committee.

The sohh 2008 stans suck so much at stanning that it is embarrassing. I am from East New York and NO 1 in all of East New York says Dogg when referring to some one else.

These stans are some straight up cornballs. If you are going to stan a New Yorker try eliminating your Cleveland, Ohio slang - U F8ck*n idiotic cornball.

DJ'S LIKE THAT IS HURTIN THE GAME AN YALL WONDER WHY RECORDS STORES ARE CLOSIN CAUSE OF THESE PUNK ASS DOWNLOADS.

Check tha new underground knock
"HANDCUFF YA BROAD" at
www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic

Bigup2bk says...
@ BKB:

That's a good look on Common's part. Literacy (or the lack of) in America is a huge problem. Big up 2 Common.

By the way - i am Obama and Hillary Fatigued. My focus has turned to the NBA finals.


This one is a little hard for me to call. I think LA in 6 or Boston in 7. It really depends on which Celtic team show up. One last thought on the finals iand that is that Basketball (at least the NBA) is almost completely European now. Basketball use to be our way out of poverty but these Eurpean Mothaf*ckas are taking over.

The Lakers have about 7 m*thaf*ckas on their squad who are all from Europe and one cat who is from West Africa. Sh8T we are losing everything, sun. Other than Kobe (who grew up partly in Germany and partly in a Philly surburb) Lamar Odom, Derek Fischer and Luke Walton the rest of that squad were born and raised outside of the U.S.

Man we lost Jazz, Hip Hop (real Hip Hop) and now Basketball. Like Richard Pryor said "Hold onto your d8cks before thay take that away from us too"

Man we have stop taking these economic and cultural losses, B.

Anyway, peace to the real.

June 5, 2008 12:52 PM
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i dont watch bball as strange as that may sound, lol, i cant wait for football season again to see how them giants gonna do. last year there was alotta sick people on here, i dont wanna say PZ's name, lol
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yeah there is alotta europeans in the game but all that mean is we need to keep our strides to being owners and not slaves. i was talking to my little cousin a while back and asked him who he think make more a bball player or the owner and he was like duh nigga the player.
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even hip hop, hip hop aint dead we dont own our image, we're ran and the music is dictated by the company, thats one of our biggest problems. we actually dont need white amerikkka in the sense that everything we do is marketed and sold, but since we dont control our stuff we rather get paid for it and we lose at the end.
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and nuff respect for common for that. i remember someone saying some self hating remark like the hood dont need a book store cause we aint gonna read we to busy getting books from the bootleg book vendors.

Bigup2bk says...
The sohh 2008 stans suck so much at stanning that it is embarrassing. I am from East New York and NO 1 in all of East New York says Dogg when referring to some one else.

These stans are some straight up cornballs. If you are going to stan a New Yorker try eliminating your Cleveland, Ohio slang - U F8ck*n idiotic cornball.

June 5, 2008 1:05 PM

@Bigup


The NBA is thinking GLOBAL so it's a must to have European players. I think soccer has proven how lucrative INTERNATIONAL competition can be.


I attended the All Star game in ATL back in 2003 and although the city was clogged with blacks in town for the game, the attendees were mostly white. When you watch the games, check out the ticket buying fans and season ticket holders and you'll see the same thing. The excuse makers will whine and say the tickets are too expensive and so on but WE paid top dollar for those tired Jordans and corny throwbacks.


I've said it before on here, our spending is not consistent enough for most businessed to cater to US specifically. Throw in the fact that we just don't turn out the quality players or athletes we once did and no explanation is needed for the preponderance of imported players.


Besides, they come to play ball, not become rappers or tabloid celebs. From the owner's standpoint they just make the most business sense for a # of reasons.


Remember when NBA players dressed and behaved like GENTLEMEN? They were black then too but that doesn't count I guess. Somebody will say they were "acting" white. LOL!


I guess fools like Pac Man Jones are "acting" Black. The ignorant can "act" as black as they want but when doors and opportunities close and disappear they can always have the comfort of knowing they "kept it real."

-They only talk to each other
-When people are discussing hiphop, they never discuss it.
-They never discuss hiphop period.
-Instead of just posting links to atricles, the post the whole damn thing
-They Cry about Stans, and then Stan people
-When asked why they dont goto a political blog or to the forums to have their daily circle jerks they cry like hoes and call you ignorant/stupid stan, ect.
- I could go on but you get the point.
Why dont you fukkers just go find a chatroom? This is a HIPHOP website, not your personal chatroom. Do you old fukks even listen to hiphop? Because you sure dont have sheit to say about it.

A Couple Points About The Corner Book Club says...
-They only talk to each other
-When people are discussing hiphop, they never discuss it.
-They never discuss hiphop period.
-Instead of just posting links to atricles, the post the whole damn thing
-They Cry about Stans, and then Stan people
-When asked why they dont goto a political blog or to the forums to have their daily circle jerks they cry like hoes and call you ignorant/stupid stan, ect.
- I could go on but you get the point.
Why dont you fukkers just go find a chatroom? This is a HIPHOP website, not your personal chatroom. Do you old fukks even listen to hiphop? Because you sure dont have sheit to say about it.


June 5, 2008 1:19 PM

A Couple Points About The Corner Book Club says...
-They only talk to each other
-When people are discussing hiphop, they never discuss it.
-They never discuss hiphop period.
-Instead of just posting links to atricles, the post the whole damn thing
-They Cry about Stans, and then Stan people
-When asked why they dont goto a political blog or to the forums to have their daily circle jerks they cry like hoes and call you ignorant/stupid stan, ect.
- I could go on but you get the point.
Why dont you fukkers just go find a chatroom? This is a HIPHOP website, not your personal chatroom. Do you old fukks even listen to hiphop? Because you sure dont have sheit to say about it.
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A couple of more points about the B!TCH@SS SOCIAL CLUB
1. THEY EXCHANGE EMAILS W/EAOTHER & OFTEN MEET
2. THEY LOVE THE ROOTS BECAUSE THEY WEAR SANDLE & DON'T BELEIVE IN LOTION
3. THEY ALL ARE WORTHLESS 9-5 GOVT SLAVES
4. THEY OFTEN DISPLAY COWARDLY BEHAVIOR & BACK DOWN FROM MY CHALLENGES OF PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION
5. THEY RAVE ABOUT BLACK SHEMALES
6. THEY HAVE ALL TOLD ME PRIVATLY THAT THEY ARE GEY
7. THEY OFTEN DISPLAY BITCHASSNESS THAT ONLY PUFFY RIVALS
8. THEY BLOG @ 2AM ON SATURDAYS!! THAT =NO PUSSY GETTIN SISSY'S
9. THEY DEFEND MCCAIN
10. THEY MASTERBATE TO OBAMA SPEECHES

@Atheist


A big part of why we went into Iraq is Sadaam pegged his oil to the Euro rather than the dollar. This was a first and it also yielded greater profits for him. Uncle Sam couldn't risk NOT making an example of him or the domino effect would've taken place. If you think the dollar is worthless now you don't wanna see what the implications would've been then.


Liberal critics of US policy really believe this is a government of the people for the people so they cry out about "injustice" and "fairness" neither of which means anything on the world stage. They do what they have to do and we go for the ride whether we like it or not.


America is an EMPIRE that will stop at nothing to maintain its SUPREMACY and rightfully so. That is the way of the world. In the event of her demise she will only be replaced by a NEW empire and our homegrown liberals who empathize with the suffering in impoverished countries will learn firsthand what it's like to be them. LOL!


Give me the "devil" I know over the "devil" I don't any day.

@Stanley
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And who says "butthurt?" My wife and her friends say that mess. You are either a female, or just a regular old nerd. lol
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Anybody on here use the word "butthurt" in real life? What a sissy.
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LOL @ stan using the word "butthurt"

@G Unot


You're what they call in DC, a late azz BAMA. No one talks about hip hop because it's pretty much finished. Maybe you didn't get the memo. I know you have dreams of being a big rap star or carrying the luggage for one but it's not gonna happen. You're a lame who missed the bus and no telling when the next one is coming so instead of hating and projecting your homo erotic fantasies on everyone try to learn something that may help you because school certainly did you no good.

@ BKB:

You are absolutely right with your slave vs owner perspective. In hip hop I am almost totally withdrawn from it. We have House N8ggers who are more interested in getting paid and becaus eof that they white -a -rize (not a word but 50 is a great example of this) the music so that it has this kind of pop and mass appeal to it and absolutely very few people are interested in making music that comes from an organic and ethnographic (meaning the hard core uncompromised culture of a group of people) root and perspective.

There are no more PE, BDP's, NWA's, Rakims, Poor righteous Teachers or evn Tupac or Naughty by Nature. Did you hear G-Unit piss poor attempt at trying to make a political joint regarding Sean Bell. It is a joke. Those buffoons are clearly out of their element.

Anyway, the reason why these regions normally dominate for a period of time is because of the novelty factor associated with the region. In the 80's when New yorkers were rocking leather Bombers; Gazelles, unlaced and laced but with fat show strings addidas and pumas and wearing kangos, name rings and belt buckles the whole country flipped. They had never seen cats dressed like that before. Then once we started spitting on the mic everyone wanted to be from New york. That was one thing that surprised me when i went to college in the mid to late 90's was how many cat's were jocking us simply because we were from New york.

Then it went out west and Ice cube and Snoop and the Funky Homosapien and those cats starting telling cats about the gang culture out there and people gravitated to it. That was a culture that cats had heard about but they really didn't know. So the west dominated back then.

Now cats are not interested in painting these hometown cultural or political and conscious Hip Hop Narratives
and portraits because they are so busy trying to make sure that all of these white teenagers like their sh*t and these white corporate Moth@f*ckas are pushing it. Everything in this world always boils right back down to money.

And you are right about sports as well. i mean 100 percent co-sign what you are saying.

In terms of the book store we need Black book stores not only in our hoods but in the malls and in the commerical shopping districts in these American cities. When you go to Barnes and Nobles and Borders and go to their African American section (smh) all you will find are books written by safe Negroes and these bullsh*t love novels and sterotypical Black face urban tales that mostly Channel Zero females and dumb and unconscious N8groes buy and read.

So we def need Black bookstores in the hood and street vendors too. Sh*t whomever can sell us a book that will start to get us to learn knowledge of self I am with it.

I will never oppose anyone opening a Black bookstore at any location. That is one of the last things I would ever oppose.

The New York Times

Leaders Change the Subject at Food Aid Conference

By ANDREW MARTIN and ELISABETH ROSENTHAL Published: June 06, 2008

ROME - It was supposed to be an emergency conference on food shortages, climate change and energy.

At the opening ceremony, the United Nations secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, noted that there were nearly one billion people short of food, and he called upon countries gathered here to act with "a sense of purpose and mission."

But when the microphone was turned on for the powerful politicians who had flown in from all over the world, they spoke mostly about economic issues in their own countries and political priorities.

The United States' agriculture secretary, Ed Schafer, talked about the benefits of biofuels and genetically modified crops.

Brazil's president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, spoke for half an hour about how Brazilian biofuels were superior to American ones.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the president of Iran, talked about the need to inject religion into food politics.

Everyone complained about other people's protectionism - and defended their own.

Food experts on Wednesday, as well as many representatives from poor countries, wondered whether these divided forces could add up to any kind of solution to a global conundrum: how to feed one billion hungry people.

"What is the common denominator here? It is a food crisis," said Denis Sassou-Nguesso, president of the Congo Republic.

"That is the immediate problem for us."

A "green revolution" about three decades ago brought vastly increased output to agriculture in much of the world, with improved agricultural techniques and fertilizers.

But it did little to improve agriculture in some of the poorest parts of the world, particularly Africa, where harvests have remained stagnant under the pressures of neglect, political unrest and, now, climate change.

But in the industrialized world, farming became more of a regulated business.

Farm entitlements became so entrenched that repeated efforts at reform, even in the face of soaring crop prices, have fallen flat, as evidenced by the inability to reach agreement on farming disputes at the World Trade Organization.

Against this backdrop, the food emergency has done little to prompt a consensus on a new approach that might make the world agricultural system more responsive to global food demand.

There has been plenty of argument since the conference opened Tuesday over whether shortages and high prices were caused by the rush to biofuels, protective tariffs, the soaring price of oil, distorting subsidies or a market failure.

But the issues appear too complex, and too heavily freighted with politics, to be addressed soon.

Robert B. Zoellick, president of the World Bank, said money was crucial to solving the short-term need for food aid to feed the world's hungry.

But he said preventing food crises would require more difficult policy changes.

In the meantime, many representatives from poorer countries expressed frustration at the tenor of the meeting.

"We believe the problem is much more political than everything else," said Walter Poveda Ricaurte, agriculture minister of Ecuador.

"We have to differentiate between the countries who are really affected by the food crisis and those who are seeing it as an economic opportunity."

He said that when food prices were low, in recent decades, Ecuador had stopped producing its own wheat, corn and soy - favoring cheap imports instead.

Now that prices of these commodities have doubled in the past year, the country can no longer afford them, he said.

The conference has raised money for emergency relief.

The Islamic Development Bank pledged $1.5 million on Wednesday.

Mr. Ban estimated that $15 billion to $20 billion was needed to help resolve the food crisis.

But there was little sign that the economic and political disputes that often took center stage here resulted in new compromises.

Mr. da Silva attacked the "absurdly protectionist farm policies in rich countries," a clear reference to the United States, which protects its own corn ethanol from competition with Brazilian ethanol, made from sugar cane.

American delegates attacked barriers to trade in poorer countries as well as in the European Union.

China, which has not invested heavily in biofuels, said that "grain-based biofuels has driven up grain utilization and has potential to trigger more far reaching problems."

Officials at the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, which sponsored the meeting, were sanguine about the results.

"Sometimes I think the discussion is not focused on the need of countries and poor people," said José Maria Sumpsi, assistant director general of the organization.

"But you have to take into account that you are hearing the positions of the governments - defending their political views - which is different from whether they will fund immediate action."

The conference was preparing to issue its concluding statement on Thursday, and delegates said the wording of the section on biofuels was a point of contention.

The United States said only 2 to 3 percent of the global increase in food prices was attributable to competition from biofuels.

But other countries put the figure far higher.

A draft copy of the resolution, obtained by The Associated Press, calls for urgent action to address the problems linked to higher food prices, trying to increase food production, ease trade restrictions and increase research in agriculture.

It also calls for more research on biofuels, sidestepping what has become the most contentious issue of the conference.

"I doubt there will be a positive agreement on biofuels" from the conference, said Mr. Schafer, the American agriculture secretary, though he indicated that some "acceptable" language would be in the meeting's final document.

There has also been only limited discussion about developing a new kind of aid program that most experts agree is needed: one that invests in developing agriculture in poor countries and that spends less money in shipping food halfway around the world to feed hungry people.

"The era of food aid is over - there is no more sending food from America to Africa," Kofi Annan, former United Nations secretary general, said in an interview.

Instead, he said, donors need to do more to improve agricultural practices in Africa and Asia, with donations of tools, fertilizers, seeds, silos and knowledge.

Officials from many major donor countries said they had been rethinking food aid policies - if only because food prices were now so high and transport was becoming increasingly costly.

Henrietta H. Fore, administrator of the United States Agency for International Development, said that transport costs were now soaking up 50 percent of its food aid money, and that the rising prices of commodities like oil were "eating away at our purchasing power."

In the past, the program was heavily weighted toward sending food abroad, and it required that its aid be purchased in the United States and shipped on American vessels.

She said that in a bill now before Congress, 25 percent of food in a new $350 million aid package could be purchased overseas.

But that has not been approved yet.

HOW CUM MY COMMENTS NEVA GET POSTED

@ NIm:

Yeah you are also right regarding the global economics of the NBA and other sports like football. I guess my surprise is how the European players have caught up to the Black Male of America so quickly in terms of their skill set and ability to compete at the highest level of the sport. I mean even when we look at san Antonio their 3 top players are not from America and San Antonio has won like 4 rings over the last 7 years.

So my message to our people is that you are being muscled out of Basketball. Certainly not everyone Black is being muscled out but for that Black kid running ball in a park somewhere he needs to be told that his chances of using basketball to escape his impoverished condition has just been drastically reduced. I mean on the math along it was already a long-long shot for him to make it but now with this European evolution of the league it may take a miracle for him to find his way to the NBA.

We have to start to show our kids the economic of sports. We have to tell them F8ck being like Kobe; attempt to be like Kobe's agent or team owner. We have to shift gears.

However your assessment is right. I totally agree with you.

Bigup2bk says...
@ BKB:

You are absolutely right with your slave vs owner perspective. In hip hop I am almost totally withdrawn from it. We have House N8ggers who are more interested in getting paid and becaus eof that they white -a -rize (not a word but 50 is a great example of this) the music so that it has this kind of pop and mass appeal to it and absolutely very few people are interested in making music that comes from an organic and ethnographic (meaning the hard core uncompromised culture of a group of people) root and perspective.

There are no more PE, BDP's, NWA's, Rakims, Poor righteous Teachers or evn Tupac or Naughty by Nature. Did you hear G-Unit piss poor attempt at trying to make a political joint regarding Sean Bell. It is a joke. Those buffoons are clearly out of their element.

Anyway, the reason why these regions normally dominate for a period of time is because of the novelty factor associated with the region. In the 80's when New yorkers were rocking leather Bombers; Gazelles, unlaced and laced but with fat show strings addidas and pumas and wearing kangos, name rings and belt buckles the whole country flipped. They had never seen cats dressed like that before. Then once we started spitting on the mic everyone wanted to be from New york. That was one thing that surprised me when i went to college in the mid to late 90's was how many cat's were jocking us simply because we were from New york.

Then it went out west and Ice cube and Snoop and the Funky Homosapien and those cats starting telling cats about the gang culture out there and people gravitated to it. That was a culture that cats had heard about but they really didn't know. So the west dominated back then.

Now cats are not interested in painting these hometown cultural or political and conscious Hip Hop Narratives
and portraits because they are so busy trying to make sure that all of these white teenagers like their sh*t and these white corporate Moth@f*ckas are pushing it. Everything in this world always boils right back down to money.

And you are right about sports as well. i mean 100 percent co-sign what you are saying.

In terms of the book store we need Black book stores not only in our hoods but in the malls and in the commerical shopping districts in these American cities. When you go to Barnes and Nobles and Borders and go to their African American section (smh) all you will find are books written by safe Negroes and these bullsh*t love novels and sterotypical Black face urban tales that mostly Channel Zero females and dumb and unconscious N8groes buy and read.

So we def need Black bookstores in the hood and street vendors too. Sh*t whomever can sell us a book that will start to get us to learn knowledge of self I am with it.

I will never oppose anyone opening a Black bookstore at any location. That is one of the last things I would ever oppose.


June 5, 2008 1:38 PM
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man, i was looking at the old source awards the infamous bad boys vs death row and the energy they had was whats up. phuck the company phuck the suits telling you whats best. but when the company control your image then what can u say, lol, there whores.
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the hood needs book stores, only a weak self hating black person can knock a bookstore in the hood.
its like this stoopid ideology cause we dont do it means we wont do it. i never been to a book store in NY i always got my books from the vendors, 1) cause they ws black and 2) cause they had the books i wanted to read.
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PZ says...
@Stanley
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And who says "butthurt?" My wife and her friends say that mess. You are either a female, or just a regular old nerd. lol
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Anybody on here use the word "butthurt" in real life? What a sissy.
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LOL @ stan using the word "butthurt"

June 5, 2008 1:31 PM

how cum i gotta go by anotha name 2 get my comments posted waz up with dat sohh? dat sum bitchassness

PZ says...
@Stanley
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And who says "butthurt?" My wife and her friends say that mess. You are either a female, or just a regular old nerd. lol

g unot killa u a hoe

@BigUp


Are we being muscled out or are we simply not paying attention to change in trends? Too busy making it "rain" perhaps?


I think And1 was a bad influence on urban basketball. The Europeans practiced fundamentals while our youth practiced for the "Harlem Globetrotters"

Black love is Black wealth.

yo y u hating sohh reckless on me???

LOL @ me ruffling these faggots feathers.
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Homo stans.

@ BKB:

The Badboy and Deathrow peice to me was the beginning of the collaspe of Hip Hop. Those cats were so manipulated and exploited by these economic stakeholders and exploiters that it was really sort of sad.

I heard Biggie be interviewed on the radio one day (shortly before he was killed) and i could hear the fear in his voice. That dude feared for his life and was really scared. We fed a culture that created an environment for those 2 cats to be killed. We picked a side and indirectly aided in their killings.

One of the more f*cked up things about that is that those who pushed that geographical and coastal garbage are still here and are still taking trips to Europe and buying homes all over the world with the blood money they generated from that bullsh*t.

Now it terms of the music it was good. Biggie was one of the illest but the greater picture that goes beyond his and Pac's talent is really sad and tragic. They both were used.


In terms of the Bookstore our consciousness is so low that I support Blackfolks getting real books that really does help them with the process of transformation and growth to cop it wherever they can.

I like the idea of Black Bookstores in the hood for many, many reasons. However we do have to support the brother when he opens his store up and the brother can't be funky to us and expect us to support him either. i don't give my money to anyone with a funky attitude.

So we have to mature because are condition is so poor that there is enough business for the street vendor and the bookstore owner both because we are fast asleep and the amount of books and reading we need to do niether the bookstore or the vendor has enough inventory to accomodate us. So if we do our job and seek knowledge then both of those cats can eat comfortably.

Nimrod says...
@BigUp


Are we being muscled out or are we simply not paying attention to change in trends? Too busy making it "rain" perhaps?


I think And1 was a bad influence on urban basketball. The Europeans practiced fundamentals while our youth practiced for the "Harlem Globetrotters"

June 5, 2008 2:04 PM

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Yeah, word up. That is real talk. We are sleeping. There really is not an injustice associated with this. These cats can play. They are good and we have not adjusted to this change of trend. Yeah; your right. that is exactly what it is. Once again we have fallen asleep at the wheel.

Shut da f*ck up....all you guys are always b*tching. You koofis and lames stay on a 24 hour b*tchfest....Which one is worse, the blog militants who never vote, got a job or a high school diploma but think they can "teach the young black youth", or g-unot killa and his homo thug rants. And cant forget the preacher wigga rapper...or the nerd who posts up articles about boring sh*t that nobody ever reads, 14 times a day.

Shut da f*ck up....all you guys are always b*tching. You koofis and lames stay on a 24 hour b*tchfest....Which one is worse, the blog militants who never vote, got a job or a high school diploma but think they can "teach the young black youth", or g-unot killa and his homo thug rants. And cant forget the preacher wigga rapper...or the nerd who posts up articles about boring sh*t that nobody ever reads, 14 times a day.

yo nigga stop denyin my comments cuz im tellin u thruth

Ey B....the stan pretending to be Reckless called you a nerd. You gonna take that?

I cosign what BigUP2BK is saying. the beef between Badboy and Deathrow only fueled the crab in the barrel mentality even more. This brought the black community into a divide and concur saga. Sad that black folks kill over music. I understand rappers taking folks not liking their music to heart cuz that is how they eat but what I dont get is y do the FANS insist on beefing about who's music is better.

Pz, if you have a job your rap must not be going so well, and if you dont have a job you should be trying to get one, instead of trying to get bloggers to buy your Mormon rap mixtape.

sohh reckless jus mad cuz he's gurl give down south niggaz brain 2 da laffy taffy beat

LOL @ Nimrod and Bigup2bk, the two blog geniuses for having their spat in public just so they could make up and be best blog buddies. Old cornball ass niggas!

I was talking about that lame azz athiest, you honkey @ss wigga preacher wanna rapper fraud @ss culture hopper...why dont u go sing country western whiteboy.....

PZ says...
@Stanley
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And who says "butthurt?" My wife and her friends say that mess. You are either a female, or just a regular old nerd. lol
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Anybody on here use the word "butthurt" in real life? What a sissy.
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LOL @ stan using the word "butthurt"

June 5, 2008 1:31 PM

sohh reckless jus mad cuz he's gurl give down south niggaz brain 2 da laffy taffy beat

Your music is trash, no one will ever sign you, you can only book free "shows" at church cause ya daddy is the minister. Arent you like 34 years old, give it up....You're like Eminem without the superproducers, lyrics, upbringing, or talent in general.

pz says...
Your music is trash, no one will ever sign you, you can only book free "shows" at church cause ya daddy is the minister. Arent you like 34 years old, give it up....You're like Eminem without the superproducers, lyrics, upbringing, or talent in general.

June 5, 2008 2:26 PM

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Can't stop, won't stop, S.E.A.L.S. records....

dre guevara says...
Pz, if you have a job your rap must not be going so well, and if you dont have a job you should be trying to get one, instead of trying to get bloggers to buy your Mormon rap mixtape.


June 5, 2008 2:21 PM


Word?

I said that?

pz is planning to shoot obama.

My dad was in the KKK, but i love black people too much, so he disowned me years ago.

I'm glad people are identifying the Bad Boy/Deathrow Beef for what it was but lets get more specific. Biggie and Puff weren't instigating NOTHING. Those dudes were SHOOK. Suge didn't even care about that nonsense to that degree. It was TUPAC who pushed the envelope of black division to a shameful point for his own personal reasons. Suge didn't care one way or the other. All he thought about was the money he could make.

I saw Michael Concepcion spit on Puff in 94 or 93 (not sure) with my own eyes and it was Suge Puff turned to for assistance to cop pleas for him.


Puff was promoting his new label deal under Arista and he was hyped. Mike said Puff lemme holla at you and Puff said wait a minute and Mike hoc spit on Puff and the two people he was talking to. Keep in mind Mike was in a wheelchair and by himself.


Suge tried to talk to Mike for Puff but Mike didn;t wanna hear it. Suge had no "beef" with Puff. Pac pushed that because of the Quad incident. I don't care what he said in interviews or songs his actions spoke louder.

Does anybody see anything weird about this article?

Accused 9/11 mastermind wants death sentence

By ANDREW O. SELSKY, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 14 minutes ago

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba - Khalid Sheikh Mohammed said he would welcome becoming a "marytr" after a judge warned Thursday that he faces the death penalty for his confessed role as mastermind of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Wearing thick glasses and occasionally fussing with his turban or stroking his bushy gray beard, Mohammed seemed noticeably thinner in his first appearance since his capture in Pakistan in 2003.

It was a stark contrast to the image the U.S. showed to the world back then, of a slovenly man with disheveled hair, an unshaven face and a T-shirt.

Mohammed also sang verses from the Quran, rejected his attorneys and told Judge Ralph Kohlmann, a Marine colonel, that he wants to represent himself at the war crimes trial.

The judge warned that he faces execution if convicted of organizing the attacks on America.

But the former No. 3 leader of al-Qaida was insistent.

"Yes, this is what I wish, to be a martyr for a long time," Mohammed declared.

"I will, God willing, have this, by you."

Mohammed and his four alleged co-conspirators each face death if convicted of war crimes including murder, conspiracy, attacking civilians and terrorism by hijacking planes to attack U.S. landmarks.

The murder charges involve the deaths of 2,973 people at the World Trade Center, Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania where passengers forced down their plane.

The arraignment begins the highest-profile test yet of the military's tribunal system, which faces an uncertain future.

The Supreme Court is to rule this month on the rights of Guantanamo prisoners, potentially delaying or halting the proceedings.

It also carries some strategic risk, and the military is trying to minimize the chance that Mohammed will be able to spread al-Qaida propaganda in courtoom speeches.

The judge announced a 20-second delay in the closed-circuit video feed to prevent classified information from being disclosed outside the tightly-controlled courtroom.

None of the defendants wore handcuffs during Thursday's proceeding, but retractable leg chains hidden underneath the raised courtroom floor were available to restrain them if they become unruly.

Calmly propping his glasses on his turban to peer at legal papers, Mohammed also grinned and exchanged a few words with someone at the defense table occupied by Waleed bin Attash, who allegedly selected and trained some of the 19 hijackers who turned airplanes into missiles in the attacks.

"There is no God but him, in him I have put my trust," Mohammed sang before Kohlmann asked him to stop.

Mohammed was repeatedly interrogated by the CIA at secret sites before he was transferred to the U.S. Navy base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in 2006.

His defense has said he may have suffered cognitive impairment from the interrogations, which according to the Bush administration included waterboarding, a technique creates the sensation of drowning by strapping a person down and pouring water over his or her cloth-covered face.

Mohammed told the judge he understands there are certain subjects he should not bring up in court, but said the Quran should be within the "green line," or permitted.

"I can't mention about the torturing," Mohammed added in broken English.

"I know this is the red line."

Military commissions have been conducted since George Washington used them after the end of the Revolutionary War, but this is the first time the United States has used them during an ongoing conflict, said Air Force Brig. Gen. Tom Hartmann, a. top tribunal official.

The Supreme Court struck down the commissions as unconstitutional in 2006.

Congress then altered and resurrected them, but they have remained mired in confusion over courtroom rules, dogged by delays, and challenged repeatedly as unconstitutional.

Army Col. Steve David, chief defense counsel for the tribunals, called the process "fundamentally flawed."

"We will zealously identify and expose each and every (flaw)," Davis said Wednesday.

The defense attorneys have accused the U.S. of rushing the trial to influence this year's presidential elections.

They recently asked Kohlmann to dismiss the case and remove Hartmann, who was accused of political meddling by a former chief prosecutor for the tribunals.

Hartmann has insisted the trials will be fair, and said he has not been asked to recuse himself from the upcoming trial.

Before the one-day hearing began, Hartmann said the prisoners would be formally notified of the nature of the charges, told of their rights to attorneys and given opportunities to enter a plea, though they would not have to enter one.

The other defendants are: Ramzi Binalshibh, said to have been the main intermediary between the hijackers and al-Qaida leaders; Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali, known as Ammar al-Baluchi, a nephew and lieutenant of Mohammed; al-Baluchi's assistant, Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi.

Journalists were allowed to see the closed-circuit TV feed from a nearby press room.

No photographs were allowed inside the courtroom, but a sketch artist was allowed to draw the scene.

Among the very few observers allowed inside the courtroom were Fang A. Wong, a senior member of the American Legion post closest to Ground Zero in New York.

"I have been waiting for this for a long time," Wong said before entering the tightly guarded court complex.

With less than eight months remaining in U.S. President George W. Bush's term, presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain both say they want to close the military's offshore detention center.

Obama also opposed the Military Commissions Act that in 2006 resurrected the military commissions, but McCain supported it.

The modular courtroom can be taken down and "sent to Fort Bragg, Fort Lewis, or any installation that needs a big courtroom," said Army Col. Wendy Kelly.

Does anybody see anything weird about this article?

Accused 9/11 mastermind wants death sentence

By ANDREW O. SELSKY, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 14 minutes ago

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba - Khalid Sheikh Mohammed said he would welcome becoming a "marytr" after a judge warned Thursday that he faces the death penalty for his confessed role as mastermind of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Wearing thick glasses and occasionally fussing with his turban or stroking his bushy gray beard, Mohammed seemed noticeably thinner in his first appearance since his capture in Pakistan in 2003.

It was a stark contrast to the image the U.S. showed to the world back then, of a slovenly man with disheveled hair, an unshaven face and a T-shirt.

Mohammed also sang verses from the Quran, rejected his attorneys and told Judge Ralph Kohlmann, a Marine colonel, that he wants to represent himself at the war crimes trial.

The judge warned that he faces execution if convicted of organizing the attacks on America.

But the former No. 3 leader of al-Qaida was insistent.

"Yes, this is what I wish, to be a martyr for a long time," Mohammed declared.

"I will, God willing, have this, by you."

Mohammed and his four alleged co-conspirators each face death if convicted of war crimes including murder, conspiracy, attacking civilians and terrorism by hijacking planes to attack U.S. landmarks.

The murder charges involve the deaths of 2,973 people at the World Trade Center, Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania where passengers forced down their plane.

The arraignment begins the highest-profile test yet of the military's tribunal system, which faces an uncertain future.

The Supreme Court is to rule this month on the rights of Guantanamo prisoners, potentially delaying or halting the proceedings.

It also carries some strategic risk, and the military is trying to minimize the chance that Mohammed will be able to spread al-Qaida propaganda in courtoom speeches.

The judge announced a 20-second delay in the closed-circuit video feed to prevent classified information from being disclosed outside the tightly-controlled courtroom.

None of the defendants wore handcuffs during Thursday's proceeding, but retractable leg chains hidden underneath the raised courtroom floor were available to restrain them if they become unruly.

Calmly propping his glasses on his turban to peer at legal papers, Mohammed also grinned and exchanged a few words with someone at the defense table occupied by Waleed bin Attash, who allegedly selected and trained some of the 19 hijackers who turned airplanes into missiles in the attacks.

"There is no God but him, in him I have put my trust," Mohammed sang before Kohlmann asked him to stop.

Mohammed was repeatedly interrogated by the CIA at secret sites before he was transferred to the U.S. Navy base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in 2006.

His defense has said he may have suffered cognitive impairment from the interrogations, which according to the Bush administration included waterboarding, a technique creates the sensation of drowning by strapping a person down and pouring water over his or her cloth-covered face.

Mohammed told the judge he understands there are certain subjects he should not bring up in court, but said the Quran should be within the "green line," or permitted.

"I can't mention about the torturing," Mohammed added in broken English.

"I know this is the red line."

Military commissions have been conducted since George Washington used them after the end of the Revolutionary War, but this is the first time the United States has used them during an ongoing conflict, said Air Force Brig. Gen. Tom Hartmann, a. top tribunal official.

The Supreme Court struck down the commissions as unconstitutional in 2006.

Congress then altered and resurrected them, but they have remained mired in confusion over courtroom rules, dogged by delays, and challenged repeatedly as unconstitutional.

Army Col. Steve David, chief defense counsel for the tribunals, called the process "fundamentally flawed."

"We will zealously identify and expose each and every (flaw)," Davis said Wednesday.

The defense attorneys have accused the U.S. of rushing the trial to influence this year's presidential elections.

They recently asked Kohlmann to dismiss the case and remove Hartmann, who was accused of political meddling by a former chief prosecutor for the tribunals.

Hartmann has insisted the trials will be fair, and said he has not been asked to recuse himself from the upcoming trial.

Before the one-day hearing began, Hartmann said the prisoners would be formally notified of the nature of the charges, told of their rights to attorneys and given opportunities to enter a plea, though they would not have to enter one.

The other defendants are: Ramzi Binalshibh, said to have been the main intermediary between the hijackers and al-Qaida leaders; Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali, known as Ammar al-Baluchi, a nephew and lieutenant of Mohammed; al-Baluchi's assistant, Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi.

Journalists were allowed to see the closed-circuit TV feed from a nearby press room.

No photographs were allowed inside the courtroom, but a sketch artist was allowed to draw the scene.

Among the very few observers allowed inside the courtroom were Fang A. Wong, a senior member of the American Legion post closest to Ground Zero in New York.

"I have been waiting for this for a long time," Wong said before entering the tightly guarded court complex.

With less than eight months remaining in U.S. President George W. Bush's term, presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain both say they want to close the military's offshore detention center.

Obama also opposed the Military Commissions Act that in 2006 resurrected the military commissions, but McCain supported it.

The modular courtroom can be taken down and "sent to Fort Bragg, Fort Lewis, or any installation that needs a big courtroom," said Army Col. Wendy Kelly.

PZ says...
@Stanley
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And who says "butthurt?" My wife and her friends say that mess. You are either a female, or just a regular old nerd. lol
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Anybody on here use the word "butthurt" in real life? What a sissy.
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LOL @ stan using the word "butthurt"

June 5, 2008 1:31 PM


June 5, 2008 2:23 PM

He's used to being butthurt after all ot those nights with his cellmate

@ Everyone:

If you read the stans' post it is really interesting. I would love to know their age and race.

1. If the cats is white then it is clear that he can't handle any Black folks chopping sh*t up that doesn't involve the new expanded Hip Hop music which now makes him a participant in the conversation where in its infancy stages he was not a welcome guess. Basically he is a closet racist is what i am saying.

2. If he is Black then he is such a House N*gger that he is always disturbed at any black person trying to be anything other than the N8gger this nation made him to be.


Either way it is sad.

G-UNOT KILLA says...
A Couple Points About The Corner Book Club says...
-They only talk to each other
-When people are discussing hiphop, they never discuss it.
-They never discuss hiphop period.
-Instead of just posting links to atricles, the post the whole damn thing
-They Cry about Stans, and then Stan people
-When asked why they dont goto a political blog or to the forums to have their daily circle jerks they cry like hoes and call you ignorant/stupid stan, ect.
- I could go on but you get the point.
Why dont you fukkers just go find a chatroom? This is a HIPHOP website, not your personal chatroom. Do you old fukks even listen to hiphop? Because you sure dont have sheit to say about it.
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A couple of more points about the B!TCH@SS SOCIAL CLUB
1. THEY EXCHANGE EMAILS W/EAOTHER & OFTEN MEET
2. THEY LOVE THE ROOTS BECAUSE THEY WEAR SANDLE & DON'T BELEIVE IN LOTION
3. THEY ALL ARE WORTHLESS 9-5 GOVT SLAVES
4. THEY OFTEN DISPLAY COWARDLY BEHAVIOR & BACK DOWN FROM MY CHALLENGES OF PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION
5. THEY RAVE ABOUT BLACK SHEMALES
6. THEY HAVE ALL TOLD ME PRIVATLY THAT THEY ARE GEY
7. THEY OFTEN DISPLAY BITCHASSNESS THAT ONLY PUFFY RIVALS
8. THEY BLOG @ 2AM ON SATURDAYS!! THAT =NO PUSSY GETTIN SISSY'S
9. THEY DEFEND MCCAIN
10. THEY MASTERBATE TO OBAMA SPEECHES
June 5, 2008 1:25 PM
^^^^^^THEY ALL SHARE A STUDIO IN GREENWICH VILLAGE (LOL) WITH ONE CALIFORNIA KING SIZE BED, AND EACH HAS THEIR DESIGNATED SPACE WHERE THEY "BOOT UP" THEIR LAPTOPS AND BLOG W/EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF JUST YELLING ACROSS THE ROOM; AND THEY HAVE ONE DESIGNATED BREAKFAST MAKER/WAKER UPPER WHO ENSURES THEY ALL "RISE AND SHINE", LMAO

Bigup2bk says...
@ Everyone:

If you read the stans' post it is really interesting. I would love to know their age and race.

1. If the cats is white then it is clear that he can't handle any Black folks chopping sh*t up that doesn't involve the new expanded Hip Hop music which now makes him a participant in the conversation where in its infancy stages he was not a welcome guess. Basically he is a closet racist is what i am saying.

2. If he is Black then he is such a House N*gger that he is always disturbed at any black person trying to be anything other than the N8gger this nation made him to be.


Either way it is sad.

June 5, 2008 2:32 PM

I would love to why you, an obese Senagalese immigrant Itt tech grad from Deleware, feels the need to blog incessantly day and night about things you have absolutely no control over. Didnt you say you collect disability for being too fat and socially inept?? What advice do you have to give?? What is the point of bigup2bk?? You dudes just talk, and talk, and talk, and talk, and talk, and talk. Move the f*ck on. Dont u DO anything?? Your "OPINIONS" mean NOTHING. And, YOU are the house n*gger, because you havent left your house in so long you probably have an @ss infection. Put down the computer, is all im saying. Your blogging does NOTHING for the state of black america. At all.....

nimrod be in back of alleys givin blowjobs 4 keyboards so he can blog on sohh


Nimrod says...

Puff was promoting his new label deal under Arista and he was hyped. Mike said Puff lemme holla at you and Puff said wait a minute and Mike hoc spit on Puff and the two people he was talking to. Keep in mind Mike was in a wheelchair and by himself.
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Damn! Negroes are such HATERS...

Why do some negroes believe that violating another brother thats doing his thing somehow validates their weak existance?

Step your game up negroes...

Stop hating one another,and stop violating for NO REASON.

If puff didnt do nothing to mike then i sure wish puff's boys wouldve grabbed some baseball bats and had batting practice on the "o.g." mikes head...

His head position would be perfect being that mike sits in a wheel chair

nimrod be in back of alleys givin blowjobs 4 keyboards so he can blog on sohh

Bigup2bk says...
@ Everyone:

If you read the stans' post it is really interesting. I would love to know their age and race.

1. If the cats is white then it is clear that he can't handle any Black folks chopping sh*t up that doesn't involve the new expanded Hip Hop music which now makes him a participant in the conversation where in its infancy stages he was not a welcome guess. Basically he is a closet racist is what i am saying.

2. If he is Black then he is such a House N*gger that he is always disturbed at any black person trying to be anything other than the N8gger this nation made him to be.


Either way it is sad.

June 5, 2008 2:32 PM

I would love to why you, an obese Senagalese immigrant Itt tech grad from Deleware, feels the need to blog incessantly day and night about things you have absolutely no control over. Didnt you say you collect disability for being too fat and socially inept?? What advice do you have to give?? What is the point of bigup2bk?? You dudes just talk, and talk, and talk, and talk, and talk, and talk. Move the f*ck on. Dont u DO anything?? Your "OPINIONS" mean NOTHING. And, YOU are the house n*gger, because you havent left your house in so long you probably have an @ss infection. Put down the computer, is all im saying. Your blogging does NOTHING for the state of black america. At all.....

The guy who wrote the above should take some classes in keeping his writing neutral. Why would you keep trying to insult the person you're talking about? It makes you look childish, dude, and also makes it harder to respect your standpoint. It shows you're just biased and an obvious Wayne hater...

Thanks stanley - he is white. Its G-Unot killa.

Let me give you sorry stans a hint so that you can cover your tracks when stanning and that is learn the art of content analysis.


I am out yall.

Peace to the real!

lol @ niggas who think they can "change the world" from their laptop. This blog means nothing. Why dont you send your ideas to your local government officials....oh yeah....i forgot, its because you're full of sh*t, and they only reason you blog so much is because you're losers confused by life. While Bigup and Nimrod cry all day all night all weekend about the state of black people, rich and poor, others are living, and then when they are called out on their fallacies(bullsh*t), they ball up like lil b*tches and hope none of their "blog friends" saw the display.

atheist says...
Why do some negroes believe that violating another brother thats doing his thing somehow validates their weak existance?

June 5, 2008 2:47 PM


Ask Bigup2bk and Nimrod, this blog is the ONLY thing that validates their existences.

lol @ "you" says...
lol @ niggas who think they can "change the world" from their laptop. This blog means nothing. Why dont you send your ideas to your local government officials....oh yeah....i forgot, its because you're full of sh*t, and they only reason you blog so much is because you're losers confused by life. While Bigup and Nimrod cry all day all night all weekend about the state of black people, rich and poor, others are living, and then when they are called out on their fallacies(bullsh*t), they ball up like lil b*tches and hope none of their "blog friends" saw the display.

June 5, 2008 2:53 PM

Everything you said is true, mr. lol, funnyman. But since our lives have passed us by we must blog!!! Blog!! Blog!! I live for the blog!! I will discuss and tear down successful blacks and call them uncle toms!! And I will express my contempt for my own people, its my right as an american. Actually I just got my green card yesterday, guys!!! Senegal in the house!!!

lol @ "you" says...
lol @ niggas who think they can "change the world" from their laptop. This blog means nothing. Why dont you send your ideas to your local government officials....oh yeah....i forgot, its because you're full of sh*t, and they only reason you blog so much is because you're losers confused by life. While Bigup and Nimrod cry all day all night all weekend about the state of black people, rich and poor, others are living, and then when they are called out on their fallacies(bullsh*t), they ball up like lil b*tches and hope none of their "blog friends" saw the display.

June 5, 2008 2:53 PM

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Why does Black progressive thought anger you so much. What makes you think that I am a man who seeks gov't to solve my problems. See this is your pysche. You have no intellectual depth at all. You are a dependent Bum and all your thoughts are weak and programmed of are associated wiuth dependency. You probably don't even tie your shoes without assistance.

So why don't you keep your harbored racist feelings to yourself because like it or not a N8gger (something you hate) is kicking you in the @ss in every single aspect of life.

Now i am out.

Peedi Crakk Readies "Camel Face Hunting Season," Signs W/ Indie

written by Rondell ConwayThursday - June 5, 2008

Peedi Crakk recently signed with Amalgam Digital, joining Lil' Kim and Joe Budden at the independent label.

"Yup. I'm back! And I feel unstoppable," Peedi said via a press release.

"My flow is advanced and as an artist, I'm getting better, especially without the claws of Roc-A-Fella digging at my back."

The former Roc-A-Fella artist was ousted from Jay-Z's old label earlier this year after he'd been held to a contract and not allowed to put out a debut album, according to Peedi.

"I've been a free agent for the past three months and now signing with the Amalgam Digital label for my first project I feel even more unstoppable," the rapper said.

"They are providing exactly what Peedi always needed -- proper promotion and distribution."

During the height of his discontent with the Roc, he put out a diss track titled "Sorry," that began circulating last summer, expressing his anger with Jay over his debut project continually being put on hold.

But he said earlier this year that that song would be the last of its kind.

"At the time I was upset but now I'm not worried about that anymore," Peedi told SOHH back in January.

"You won't hear no new diss records. I'm past that."

However, Peedi's debut album on Amalgam is titled Camel Face Hunting Season.

Camel Face Hunting Season begins September '08.

Bigup2bk says...

@ Everyone:If you read the stans' post it is really interesting. I would love to know their age and race.1. If the cats is white then it is clear that he can't handle any Black folks chopping sh*t up that doesn't involve the new expanded Hip Hop music which now makes him a participant in the conversation where in its infancy stages he was not a welcome guess. Basically he is a closet racist is what i am saying.

2. If he is Black then he is such a House N*gger that he is always disturbed at any black person trying to be anything other than the N8gger this nation made him to be.Either way it is sad.
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Exactly!!!

I'll be back later to annoy the same a$$holes that you speak of.LOL!

Peace to all the mofo's who b*tch and complain...

Me,BKB,Nimrod,The Layer,Bigup2bk and any other disgruntled negro on this planet.LOL!

One last thing - as for your anti African comment, white boy; the true immigrants of this nation is you and your people. You are a member of an unnatural people. You can't identify one place on the planet where you are the original people of that land; not even Europe as your french white brother Napolen found out .

Your people do not have a birthplace of their own anywhere on the planet and that is an undisputable fact. So if you were force to leave America and go back home you would literally have to travel to outter space because in truth the real foriegner to the entire planet earth is you and your people.

So as a African and an original owner of some of the real estate of this planet I suggest that you take your @ss to outter space you strange and unusual specticle of life.

Bigup2bk says...
One last thing - as for your anti African comment, white boy; the true immigrants of this nation is you and your people. You are a member of an unnatural people. You can't identify one place on the planet where you are the original people of that land; not even Europe as your french white brother Napolen found out .

Your people do not have a birthplace of their own anywhere on the planet and that is an undisputable fact. So if you were force to leave America and go back home you would literally have to travel to outter space because in truth the real foriegner to the entire planet earth is you and your people.

So as a African and an original owner of some of the real estate of this planet I suggest that you take your @ss to outter space you strange and unusual specticle of life.

June 5, 2008 3:11 PM

1. HE EXCHANGES MANJUICE W/ HIS FRIENDS
2. HE LOVES TO GANGBANG BECAUSE HE'S TOO IGNORANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH HIS LIFE & SET AN EXAMPLE FOR HIS KIDS
3. HE HAS BEEN A WORTHLESS HIGH SCHOOL JANITOR FOR 17 YEARS
4. HE OFTEN DISPLAYS COWARDLY BEHAVIOR & BACKS DOWN FROM THE CHALLENGE OF PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION WITH DRE GUEVARA BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE GOD WILL BEAT HIM SO BAD THAT HIS STEPMOMS WILL FEEL IT FOR THE NEXT 12 BIRTHDAYS
5. HE RAVES ABOUT HOW HE LOVES BLACK SHEMALES
6. HE HAS TOLD US ON OCCASION THAT HE & SPIDER LOC ARE GEY LOVERS & THEY'RE DOING A REMAKE OF BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN
7. HE OFTEN DISPLAYS BITCHASSNESS THAT EVEN PUFFY CAN'T RIVAL ON HIS WORST DAY
8. HE BLOGS @ 2AM ON SATURDAYS!! THAT =A NO PUSSY GETTIN' TRANNY LOVIN' SISSY
9. HE'S A GRAPE STREET BUSTDOWN
10. HE MASTURBATES FREQUENTLY TO PICTURES OF STANLEY "TOOKIE" WILLIAMS' APPEARANCE ON THE GONG SHOW
11. HIS 3 KIDS ARE ACTUALLY LIL' EAZY E'S KIDS, HOWEVER, HE'S STUCK PAYING CHILD SUPPORT, WHICH HE CAN'T AFFORD.
12. HE LIKES TO HANG OUT @ THE BLUE OYSTER WITH THE REST OF THE RAINBOW CRIPS

^^^^^^HE & SPIDER LOC SHARE A STUDIO WITH 6 OTHER PHONY H 2 THA IZZO, M 2 THA IZZO CRIPS IN WEST HOLLYWOOD (LOL) WITH ONE CALIFORNIA KING SIZE BED, AND THEY HAVE THEIR DESIGNATED DAYS WHERE THEY DO DRIVE BYS ON EACH OTHER'S RECTUMS, THEN THEY MAKE G UNOT KILLA PUT ON KRUMP MAKE UP WITH A PINK G UNIT CUT OFF T-SHIRT & A PAIR OF DAISY DUKE SHORTS SO THEY CAN PLAY THEIR FAVORITE PRISON GAME CALLED "HIDE THE GERBIL"

LOL @ WHITEY BEING HOMELESS!!

June 5, 2008 3:13 PM

Whitey Ford is homeless??!!

Bigup2bk says...
lol @ "you" says...
lol @ niggas who think they can "change the world" from their laptop. This blog means nothing. Why dont you send your ideas to your local government officials....oh yeah....i forgot, its because you're full of sh*t, and they only reason you blog so much is because you're losers confused by life. While Bigup and Nimrod cry all day all night all weekend about the state of black people, rich and poor, others are living, and then when they are called out on their fallacies(bullsh*t), they ball up like lil b*tches and hope none of their "blog friends" saw the display.

June 5, 2008 2:53 PM

_________

Why does Black progressive thought anger you so much. What makes you think that I am a man who seeks gov't to solve my problems. See this is your pysche. You have no intellectual depth at all. You are a dependent Bum and all your thoughts are weak and programmed of are associated wiuth dependency. You probably don't even tie your shoes without assistance.

So why don't you keep your harbored racist feelings to yourself because like it or not a N8gger (something you hate) is kicking you in the @ss in every single aspect of life.

Now i am out.


June 5, 2008 2:59 PM

^^^^^^HE & SPIDER LOC SHARE A STUDIO WITH 6 OTHER PHONY H 2 THA IZZO, M 2 THA IZZO CRIPS IN WEST HOLLYWOOD (LOL) WITH ONE CALIFORNIA KING SIZE BED, AND THEY HAVE THEIR DESIGNATED DAYS WHERE THEY DO DRIVE BYS ON EACH OTHER'S RECTUMS, THEN THEY MAKE G UNOT KILLA PUT ON KRUMP MAKE UP WITH A PINK G UNIT CUT OFF T-SHIRT & A PAIR OF DAISY DUKE SHORTS SO THEY CAN PLAY THEIR FAVORITE PRISON GAME CALLED "HIDE THE GERBIL"
June 5, 2008 3:15 PM
^^^^^From one Stan to another, pretty funny stuff the way u twisted my comments around, but it's all fun and games, don't know y some of these bloggers be gettin so emotional over things!

Man...this is sad. Every now and then these stand will say something funny to me, and for some reason...this one had me laughin hard.
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Bigup...dude said "you havent left your house in so long you probably have an @ss infection."
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That right there was hilarious to me for some reason. Dude said an "ass infection."
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Bigup2bk says...
One last thing - as for your anti African comment, white boy; the true immigrants of this nation is you and your people. You are a member of an unnatural people. You can't identify one place on the planet where you are the original people of that land; not even Europe as your french white brother Napolen found out .

Your people do not have a birthplace of their own anywhere on the planet and that is an undisputable fact. So if you were force to leave America and go back home you would literally have to travel to outter space because in truth the real foriegner to the entire planet earth is you and your people.

So as a African and an original owner of some of the real estate of this planet I suggest that you take your @ss to outter space you strange and unusual specticle of life.

June 5, 2008 3:11 PM


^^^^^^^This guy is such a stupid @ss hermit racist loser, he cant IMAGINE that somebody black would tell him to shut da f*ck up!!!! Your anti-white comments mean nothing, I'm black, blog professor. No wonder you lames are online all day and dont have jobs, your racist antisocial behavior shines through in every post!! I'll let you return to thinking you can save the world without getting out of bed, and tryin to explain to pz what you meant by all that racist stuff. Laaaaaaaaaaaaames

i know u like to hate, but g-units 'straight outta southside' is craaaaazy


give props now!

Bigup2bk is the type of uncle tom coon who will spout all that "progressiveness", but still look down on somebody because their hat or tshirt is too long or because they dont "talk white" like him. This n*gga is sooo militant and problack he CANT possibly have any friends, outside of the internet of course. So Nimrod, provide him with social contact, no matter how limited and pointless it is!!!! He needs it, he's on the verge of suicide by food. He's like Homer simpson in that old school episode where Homer was too fat to leave the house, so he became bitter and angry. Just remember: you koofi niggas aint helping nuthing.

2. If he is Black then he is such a House N*gger that he is always disturbed at any black person trying to be anything other than the N8gger this nation made him to be.


Either way it is sad.

Moseley and Wynne forced out

Staff report
Posted : Thursday Jun 5, 2008 13:58:07 EDT

Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley and Secretary Michael W. Wynne were forced to resign Thursday during hastily arranged meetings with their Pentagon bosses.

Moseley was summoned to an early morning meeting with Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to discuss a report on the Air Force’s problems handling nuclear weapons. The report, by Navy Adm. Kirkland Donald, director of naval nuclear propulsion, convinced Defense Secretary Robert Gates that senior officials should be held accountable.

Moseley resigned in response.

Later in the morning, Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England was dispatched to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, to ask for Wynne’s resignation, sources said. Wynne resigned during the meeting.

It is not clear how quickly these changes will take effect, and other senior officers could still be relieved in the wake of the Donald report.

Moseley could stay on until July or later, at Gates’ discretion.

Navy Capt. John Kirby, Mullen’s spokesman, declined to comment but did not deny the story. A Defense Department spokesman and an Air Force spokeswoman also declined to comment.

It is not yet known who will succeed Moseley and Wynne, but Air Force Vice Chief of Staff Gen. Duncan McNabb will likely become acting chief of staff.

The stunning development follows a series of high-profile scandals and disagreements between Air Force leadership and Gates in the past year, during which both the Pentagon and congressional leadership have increasingly expressed frustration about the Air Force’s top bosses.

Wynne became Air Force secretary in November 2005, and Moseley took office in September 2005. Moseley’s term expires in September 2009, and Wynne served at the pleasure of the president.

Moseley, a former fighter pilot, has been in the Air Force since 1972. Before becoming chief, he served as commander of U.S. Central Command Air Forces and then as vice chief of staff from August 2003 until September 2005.

Wynne served as an Air Force officer from 1966 until 1973 and then began a nearly 30-year career in the aerospace industry. He rose to become president of General Dynamics’ space division and general manager of space launch systems at Lockheed Martin. He re-entered government service in 2001 and served four years as principal deputy undersecretary of defense for acquisition, technology and logistics before becoming Air Force secretary.

While the simultaneous removal of a service’s top civilian and uniformed leaders comes as a surprise and is unprecedented, there has been speculation for months among defense insiders that Moseley, Wynne or both could be in trouble.

The Air Force has been rocked by a series of missteps during the past year, and Moseley and Wynne’s relationships with Gates, England and members of congressional defense committees have steadily eroded.

Both men are well-liked personally, but that apparently was not enough to make up for a perceived lack of leadership.

Loren Thompson, an analyst with the Lexington Institute in Fairfax, Va., said the writing has been on the wall for several months, and that Moseley’s demeanor has changed noticeably during that time.

“It was clear the relationship between the Office of the Secretary of Defense and the Air Force was deteriorating,” Thompson said. “But it wasn’t clear what that would mean for Air Force leadership. … “This [is] the final chapter in a long list of grievances between OSD and the Air Force.”

Those grievances include criticism of the Air Force’s nuclear weapons handling, two major acquisitions programs that have been stalled by protests, the service’s inability to rush more surveillance drones to the war zones, apparent conflicts of interest of current and retired senior officials related to a $50 million contract to produce a multimedia show for the Thunderbirds, and repeated clashes with Pentagon leaders over the number of F-22s the Air Force will buy and other budget issues.

The most serious blow to the credibility of the Air Force and its leadership has been a scandal spawned by the service’s accidental transfer in August of six nuclear-tipped cruise missiles from Minot Air Force Base, N.D., to Barksdale Air Force Base, La.

A B-52 from the 5th Bomb Wing at Minot were supposed to transfer unarmed air-launched cruise missiles to Barksdale to be decommissioned, but munitions loaders accidentally attached nuclear-armed missiles to the pylons. The missiles were flown to Barksdale and sat unguarded on the tarmac for several hours before anyone realized what happened, some 30 hours after the mistake was made.

The 5th Bomb Wing commander, two group commanders and the 5th Munitions Squadron commander were relieved of their commands.

Moseley ordered a service-wide review of the nuclear enterprise two months after the incident, resulting in 36 recommendations for improvements. The review report was presented to the Senate Armed Services Committee, members of which were highly critical of the Air Force’s nuclear weapons handling.

The 5th Bomb Wing in late May failed its defense nuclear surety inspection, despite having months to prepare and being under close scrutiny since the incident. Inspectors found glaring deficiencies in the wing’s ability to protect its nuclear stockpile.

Then in March, it was discovered that the Air Force had accidentally shipped classified nuclear warhead fuses to Taiwan in 2006. That prompted Gates to order a military-wide inventory of nuclear weapons and components. That report was recently submitted to Gates but has not been released publicly.

@ PZ:

Anything said about me will always be funny to you. If I recall the last funny thing that you thought was funny from a stan was said aboout me.

Your transparent "This is an exception to the rule" out burst of laughter to a stan's joke is as transparent are your fakeness. I dismissed you weeks ago when you showed yourself to to be yellow and cowardly fraud.

It is really funny that your laughter came right after I made the FACTUAL statement that white people are not natives of the planet earth.

Anyway; you are a fruad and at least i know it for myself if no one else knows it.

@ the Wigger who wants to be Black:

I would love for you to point out my racist statement. Is it the fact that I said whitefolks don't have a home land. I guess if i say something that is true concerning your people then it is racism. I actually bet the stan's joke was funny to you too, huh.

And even if you are not white (which you are) - you certainly are not Black. I n*gger or Negro -possibly but def not Black.

You are allergic to the concept of blackness. The word black makes your f@gget @ss break out in a rash. So Black is something you are not and never will be now a PussC and a h*mo are things that you are would you not agree?

Oh, damn, how you gonna talk about Dre like that? says...
2. If he is Black then he is such a House N*gger that he is always disturbed at any black person trying to be anything other than the N8gger this nation made him to be.


Either way it is sad.


June 5, 2008 3:46 PM

LOL @ THE STAN WHO STANNED ME says...
^^^^^^HE & SPIDER LOC SHARE A STUDIO WITH 6 OTHER PHONY H 2 THA IZZO, M 2 THA IZZO CRIPS IN WEST HOLLYWOOD (LOL) WITH ONE CALIFORNIA KING SIZE BED, AND THEY HAVE THEIR DESIGNATED DAYS WHERE THEY DO DRIVE BYS ON EACH OTHER'S RECTUMS, THEN THEY MAKE G UNOT KILLA PUT ON KRUMP MAKE UP WITH A PINK G UNIT CUT OFF T-SHIRT & A PAIR OF DAISY DUKE SHORTS SO THEY CAN PLAY THEIR FAVORITE PRISON GAME CALLED "HIDE THE GERBIL"
June 5, 2008 3:15 PM
^^^^^From one Stan to another, pretty funny stuff the way u twisted my comments around, but it's all fun and games, don't know y some of these bloggers be gettin so emotional over things!

June 5, 2008 3:22 PM

Q The Wigger

UNCLE TOM COON - (SMH) - Dogg -

Homie you need to buy an updated book of "Black slang for white dummies."

I hate it when you white boys are so blatent in the theft of our culture. I mean it would not be so bad if you didn't F8ck it so bad after you steal it. Damm....

Is it the fact that I said whitefolks don't have a home land.

HE & SPIDER LOC SHARE A STUDIO WITH 6 OTHER PHONY H 2 THA IZZO, M 2 THA IZZO CRIPS IN WEST HOLLYWOOD (LOL) WITH ONE CALIFORNIA KING SIZE BED, AND THEY HAVE THEIR DESIGNATED DAYS WHERE THEY DO DRIVE BYS ON EACH OTHER'S RECTUMS, THEN THEY MAKE G UNOT KILLA PUT ON KRUMP MAKE UP WITH A PINK G UNIT CUT OFF T-SHIRT & A PAIR OF DAISY DUKE SHORTS SO THEY CAN PLAY THEIR FAVORITE PRISON GAME CALLED "HIDE THE GERBIL"
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WHOEVER WROTE THIS I'M ISSUING A B.O.S. BEATDOWN ON SITE FOR U NONGANGBANGING PHUCKS I SWEAR UR DEAD MY NIGGA

bigup2bk says...
Q The Wigger

UNCLE TOM COON - (SMH) - Dogg -

Homie you need to buy an updated book of "Black slang for white dummies."

I hate it when you white boys are so blatent in the theft of our culture. I mean it would not be so bad if you didn't F8ck it so bad after you steal it. Damm....


June 5, 2008 3:59 PM

This web is a cesspool. No wonder so many of the regs left.

Bigup2bk still uses slang from the mid 80s because he hasnt left his house since then.

LOOK @ B!TCH @SS NIGGAZ HIDING FROM THE #2 GOON BEHIND SPIDER LOC,ME/G-UNOT KILLA says...
HE & SPIDER LOC SHARE A STUDIO WITH 6 OTHER PHONY H 2 THA IZZO, M 2 THA IZZO CRIPS IN WEST HOLLYWOOD (LOL) WITH ONE CALIFORNIA KING SIZE BED, AND THEY HAVE THEIR DESIGNATED DAYS WHERE THEY DO DRIVE BYS ON EACH OTHER'S RECTUMS, THEN THEY MAKE G UNOT KILLA PUT ON KRUMP MAKE UP WITH A PINK G UNIT CUT OFF T-SHIRT & A PAIR OF DAISY DUKE SHORTS SO THEY CAN PLAY THEIR FAVORITE PRISON GAME CALLED "HIDE THE GERBIL"
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WHOEVER WROTE THIS I'M ISSUING A B.O.S. BEATDOWN ON SITE FOR U NONGANGBANGING PHUCKS I SWEAR UR DEAD MY NIGGA

June 5, 2008 4:05 PM

All U gotta do is come 2 the Chi, Billy Bad@$$, until then, just keep posting Ur hollow threats because U know U're soft, U're a paper tiger with a glass jaw.

Man, Hov still on top of the game!! You need to stop hatin' on Jigga! Lil Wayne just got 5 million freestyles out so everybody thinks he is the best

Yeah your aids infested no food having war mongering homeland is great, nigger

June 5, 2008 4:00 PM

Listen here dik head...I don't play this subliminal game. You don't know me by now? If I don't like you, I will tell your momma, your step daddy, all your brothers and sisters, your boss, your neighbor..I will tell everybody. And I'll tell you, straight out..I will say I DON'T LIKE YOU. lol
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That was funny to me, you don't like it...I don't care. It would've been funny if they said it to me, to Brooklyn B, to Nimrod..to anyone.
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I don't come on here to play games with you and cater to your babiness. Quit acting like a little baby all the time homeboy...I don't care one bit about what you think.
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Save your sensitivities for things that really matter you prick. lol
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Blog on blogger...you sissy. lol Damn you sensitive...I don't even like getting mad, but you're just a sissy. Save all that white and black mess...you can miss me with all your analyzing.
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Ok..you see me as fake, and settle with that. But everybody on the blog agrees that you're biggest sissy to ever come on here. You act like a girl...for real. Go bake a cake sissy. lol And by sissy, I mean you overwhelmingly display female traits when you feel you are being attacked. Sissified sissy. Give me your number, I'll call and tell you on the phone..you're a sissy. Then when I hang up I will text you and tell you "YOU'RE A SISSY!" Got a beeper...I will page you and enter 515513" so when you read it you will know I"m calling you a sissy. What's your email, I'll email you to tall ya. "Hi, this is PZ..and I think you're a sissy." Your blog...I'll probably go out of my way when I get home and can access yahoo just so I can go to your little blog and tell you "Yep...me again, and I really think you are a SISSY."
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And your address? What's that...I'll email you a package addressed to "sissy". I'll be sure it arrives when you are at work, so they will put that thing on your door and you will have to go to the post office to pick it up. Then when you open it, there will just be a note which says "I think you are a sissy." Then by time you get home I'll be there on your front step waiting to tell you to your face that you're a sissy.
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For real..I don't play that subliminal game. I thought the joke was funny, deal with it. It wasn't about you that I was laughing about it, it was the line in general. I'm going to use it on someone else around me probably this week.
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So stop being a what???? Can someone fill in the blank for me??

I Need to lick someone ass tonight after the basketball game. how about you skizzle? do you need your ass lick

skizzle says...

Lil Wayne just got 5 million freestyles out so everybody thinks he is the best

June 5, 2008 4:14 PM

& those same people also think it's cool 2 be stupid as f@#k

....SISSY! That was funny.

YOUNG MOOOLA BABY!!!

But everybody on the blog agrees that you're biggest sissy to ever come on here. You act like a girl...for real. Go bake a cake sissy. lol And by sissy, I mean you overwhelmingly display female traits when you feel you are being attacked. Sissified sissy. Give me your number, I'll call and tell you on the phone..you're a sissy. Then when I hang up I will text you and tell you "YOU'RE A SISSY!" Got a beeper...I will page you and enter 515513" so when you read it you will know I"m calling you a sissy. What's your email, I'll email you to tall ya. "Hi, this is PZ..and I think you're a sissy." Your blog...I'll probably go out of my way when I get home and can access yahoo just so I can go to your little blog and tell you "Yep...me again, and I really think you are a SISSY."
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And your address? What's that...I'll email you a package addressed to "sissy". I'll be sure it arrives when you are at work, so they will put that thing on your door and you will have to go to the post office to pick it up. Then when you open it, there will just be a note which says "I think you are a sissy." Then by time you get home I'll be there on your front step waiting to tell you to your face that you're a sissy.
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For real..I don't play that subliminal game. I thought the joke was funny, deal with it. It wasn't about you that I was laughing about it, it was the line in general. I'm going to use it on someone else around me probably this week.
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So stop being a what???? Can someone fill in the blank for me??


June 5, 2008 4:20 PM

lol dis place is funny n g unut drinka is a joke lyk spyda hoe iz

lol dis place is funny n g unut drinka is a joke lyk spyda hoe iz

lol dis place is funny n g unut drinka is a joke lyk spyda hoe iz

bigup2bk = Sissyfied B*tch Boy Senagalese Immgrant On Disability For Being Too Fat

I'm going to appear on the Discovery Channel next week. A construction crew is coming to my house to airlift my fat @ss out of the house finally. My mom is tired of washing me with a rag on a stick.......I havent seen my feet in 38 years.

Peace to the regs
Clockers you are right this blog is a cesspool. They block you for no reason and let the retards blabber away. Smh

Peace to the regs
Clockers you are right this blog is a cesspool. They block you for no reason and let the retards blabber away. Smh

the writer just hates wayne fuckin faget he is not my favorite rapper but damn every thing yall write about him is negative if you hate him so bad just stop giving him the publicity and dont write about him and let him have his opinion and thats it and thats it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dre Guevara says...
G Unot Killa says...

5. LL Cool J disses Ice T w-the line "I saw ur album cover & wanted to take it to the Bathroom w/it." Later that year the infamous shooting of the Def Jam concert was by the LA Crips @ the forum in LA.

June 5, 2008 9:07 AM

@ G Unot Killa,

I remember reading about that incident when it happened, I could'nt help but 2 ask myself @ the time, "was it that serious?"
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Listen when u phuck w/ a crippin @ss janitor or a grip in general u got big phuckin problems

Sm0kEd OuT says...
lol dis place is funny n g unut drinka is a joke lyk spyda hoe iz
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My nigga please call me 451-2512 or come to 3557 Grape st to see how Grape St hoez get down then. I personally issue you a challenge to be brave enough to call me nigga I done smacked J. Prince up when the phuck do u think I'll do 2 u?

RE: The Stan


I really ignore the joker. It's obvious the Stan is threatened by black awareness somehow. That doesn't make him/her white but I'm willing to bet the Stan isn't Black.


I'm not an expert on Stanning but I understand human nature well. There are people who come on these blogs and enjoy the division among black people they witness because it is that very division that creates opportunity for them in this life. Any attempt to indentify the problem is bad news to them.

Personally, I just come on here to give up game to those who want it. What they do with it is on them. Aside from the normal idiocy brothers are inundated with I try to point them in other directions and that's not just blacks exclusively as PZ can testify too. I have no problems with whites or any other race per se but my primary obligation is to the group I identify with the most.


Now, I long saw the problem posed by Bigup and I going at each other on this blog. It was really a microcasm of what plays out in our community among our educated. Despite a difference in ideology we have one important factor in common. We both seek a way out of this mess for all of US. As in the real world there are people who enjoy "threatening" blacks neutralizing each other and the resident stan is that person on this blog. So annoyed is he/she by our ability to get along that he/she has resorted to attacking us together. LOL! Someone is perturbed that these exchanges are now at a minimum. That same individual attempted to exploit those exchanges subtly in plain view and blatantly as a "stan." Just want you to know I've been on to you from day 1.


The bottom line is weaknesses of every type has kept the black man at the bottom of the foodchain where everyone else can use us for a quick come up and they often do. It makes our women accessible to them too which I know they enjoy at our expense but a new day is coming so STANley can b!tch all he/she wants on a blog. It's inevitable and bound to happen in THIS lifetime. I'm doing my part and not just on SOHH.

@Nimrod

Cutting through all the fog, there are two primary reasons behind Barack Obama's stunning victory over the Clinton machine:

Authenticity and the war in Iraq.

As amply demonstrated, there is simply no comparison between Obama and Hillary Clinton as far as public speaking is concerned.

He is eloquent and natural, talking directly to the folks.

She is more stilted and rehearsed, talking at the listener.

Senator Clinton comes across as the typical politician, while Senator Obama seems like a genuine human being.

He also outflanked her on the Iraq war.

In the beginning of the campaign, Senator Obama bolted from the starting gate flashing his anti-war cred.

From the jump, he had been against the action.

And now he was the guy who would pull the USA out of the Iraq swamp.

Senator Clinton was immediately put on the defensive, as she initially supported the use of force to remove Saddam.

Also, her entire outlook on confronting Islamic fascism was far too bullish for far-left America.

So, the netroots, as they call themselves, flocked to Obama and provided him with vast amounts of money via the internet.

By the time Hillary rallied Democratic moderates, it was too late.

So, now, Barack Obama has achieved the nomination, but his winning primary strategy on Iraq could come back to haunt him in the general election when the far left becomes rather insignificant.

Already, John McCain is painting Obama as a terror appeaser who would snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in Iraq.

And McCain has some heavy ammunition to back up his attack.

In May, American causalities were the lowest since the Iraq war began in 2003.

In addition, Iraqi oil production is now at its highest level since Saddam fell.

Even the liberal Reuters news agency calls the current situation in Iraq a "dramatic turnabout.

"Of course, you won't hear much about that in the U.S. press, as the liberal media has much invested in an American defeat in Iraq.

But there is no question that the war there can now be won.

It's not a lock, but it's certainly a possibility.

Senator McCain must make the case that a victory in Iraq, which means the country stabilizes and becomes an ally against Islamic terror and Iran, means a much more secure United States.

For the past few weeks, McCain has been spotlighting Iran's villainy, pointing out its support of terror groups like Hezbollah and its outright killing of our forces in Iraq.

Quietly, McCain is setting Obama up for a hard right to the jaw.

If the U.S. pulls out of Iraq too quickly, the pressure on Iran immediately lightens and the potential for aggression by the bitterly anti-Jewish and anti-American mullahs rises dramatically.

Does Obama understand that?

Does it matter to him?

McCain will confront his young challenger with those questions.

Senator Obama's advisors know the Iraq scenario is changing fast.

They also understand that the media will ignore the good news for as long as it can.

But word will get out and, after years of frustration, Americans could be staring at a success story after all.

Not good news for Obama.

I will post up a new article to back up my claims...

Revealed: Secret plan to keep Iraq under US control

Bush wants 50 military bases, control of Iraqi airspace and legal immunity for all American soldiers and contractors

By Patrick CockburnThursday, 5 June 2008

A secret deal being negotiated in Baghdad would perpetuate the American military occupation of Iraq indefinitely, regardless of the outcome of the US presidential election in November.

The terms of the impending deal, details of which have been leaked to The Independent, are likely to have an explosive political effect in Iraq.

Iraqi officials fear that the accord, under which US troops would occupy permanent bases, conduct military operations, arrest Iraqis and enjoy immunity from Iraqi law, will destabilise Iraq's position in the Middle East and lay the basis for unending conflict in their country.

But the accord also threatens to provoke a political crisis in the US.

President Bush wants to push it through by the end of next month so he can declare a military victory and claim his 2003 invasion has been vindicated.

But by perpetuating the US presence in Iraq, the long-term settlement would undercut pledges by the Democratic presidential nominee, Barack Obama, to withdraw US troops if he is elected president in November.

The timing of the agreement would also boost the Republican candidate, John McCain, who has claimed the United States is on the verge of victory in Iraq – a victory that he says Mr Obama would throw away by a premature military withdrawal.

America currently has 151,000 troops in Iraq and, even after projected withdrawals next month, troop levels will stand at more than 142,000 – 10 000 more than when the military "surge" began in January 2007.

Under the terms of the new treaty, the Americans would retain the long-term use of more than 50 bases in Iraq.

American negotiators are also demanding immunity from Iraqi law for US troops and contractors, and a free hand to carry out arrests and conduct military activities in Iraq without consulting the Baghdad government.

The precise nature of the American demands has been kept secret until now.

The leaks are certain to generate an angry backlash in Iraq.

"It is a terrible breach of our sovereignty," said one Iraqi politician, adding that if the security deal was signed it would delegitimise the government in Baghdad which will be seen as an American pawn.

The US has repeatedly denied it wants permanent bases in Iraq but one Iraqi source said: "This is just a tactical subterfuge."

Washington also wants control of Iraqi airspace below 29,000ft and the right to pursue its "war on terror" in Iraq, giving it the authority to arrest anybody it wants and to launch military campaigns without consultation.

Mr Bush is determined to force the Iraqi government to sign the so-called "strategic alliance" without modifications, by the end of next month.

But it is already being condemned by the Iranians and many Arabs as a continuing American attempt to dominate the region.

Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, the powerful and usually moderate Iranian leader, said yesterday that such a deal would create "a permanent occupation".

He added: "The essence of this agreement is to turn the Iraqis into slaves of the Americans."

Iraq's Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, is believed to be personally opposed to the terms of the new pact but feels his coalition government cannot stay in power without US backing.

The deal also risks exacerbating the proxy war being fought between Iran and the United States over who should be more influential in Iraq.

Although Iraqi ministers have said they will reject any agreement limiting Iraqi sovereignty, political observers in Baghdad suspect they will sign in the end and simply want to establish their credentials as defenders of Iraqi independence by a show of defiance now.

The one Iraqi with the authority to stop deal is the majority Shia spiritual leader, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani.

In 2003, he forced the US to agree to a referendum on the new Iraqi constitution and the election of a parliament.

But he is said to believe that loss of US support would drastically weaken the Iraqi Shia, who won a majority in parliament in elections in 2005.

The US is adamantly against the new security agreement being put to a referendum in Iraq, suspecting that it would be voted down.

The influential Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr has called on his followers to demonstrate every Friday against the impending agreement on the grounds that it compromises Iraqi independence.

The Iraqi government wants to delay the actual signing of the agreement but the office of Vice-President Dick Cheney has been trying to force it through.

The US ambassador in Baghdad, Ryan Crocker, has spent weeks trying to secure the accord.

The signature of a security agreement, and a parallel deal providing a legal basis for keeping US troops in Iraq, is unlikely to be accepted by most Iraqis.

But the Kurds, who make up a fifth of the population, will probably favour a continuing American presence, as will Sunni Arab political leaders who want US forces to dilute the power of the Shia.

The Sunni Arab community, which has broadly supported a guerrilla war against US occupation, is likely to be split.

Ok..you see me as fake, and settle with that. But everybody on the blog agrees that you're biggest sissy to ever come on here. You act like a girl...for real. Go bake a cake sissy. lol And by sissy, I mean you overwhelmingly display female traits when you feel you are being attacked. Sissified sissy. Give me your number, I'll call and tell you on the phone..you're a sissy. Then when I hang up I will text you and tell you "YOU'RE A SISSY!" Got a beeper...I will page you and enter 515513" so when you read it you will know I"m calling you a sissy. What's your email, I'll email you to tall ya. "Hi, this is PZ..and I think you're a sissy." Your blog...I'll probably go out of my way when I get home and can access yahoo just so I can go to your little blog and tell you "Yep...me again, and I really think you are a SISSY."
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And your address? What's that...I'll email you a package addressed to "sissy". I'll be sure it arrives when you are at work, so they will put that thing on your door and you will have to go to the post office to pick it up. Then when you open it, there will just be a note which says "I think you are a sissy." Then by time you get home I'll be there on your front step waiting to tell you to your face that you're a sissy.

@Atheist


You sound like a political pundit. LOL! Obama was at the Nissan Pavillion in Northern Virginia tonight for free. He's got a lot of white support.

I think there are numerous reasons why Obama won and most important of all is TIMING. Hillary's speechmaking is typical of white politicians. They're all uninspiring to me. If black people can't do anything else we can talk a good one. LOL!


I suspect Bush will go into Iran this summer and McCain's chances will tank. This thing is far from over. They're not leaving Iraq...EVER. No matter what Obama says. They're gonna knock off Iran and control the entire Gulf region's oil producing capacity at that point.

That will leave Obama free to set the stage to check the Chinese during his presidency starting with his attack on Pakistan under the guise of looking for bin Laden. The Pakistanis fear Obama more than Bush because he's already made his intention to invade them clear. They are an ally of China. LOL! All part of the Grand Chessboard. ;)

@Atheist


You sound like a political pundit. LOL! Obama was at the Nissan Pavillion in Northern Virginia tonight for free. He's got a lot of white support.

I think there are numerous reasons why Obama won and most important of all is TIMING. Hillary's speechmaking is typical of white politicians. They're all uninspiring to me. If black people can't do anything else we can talk a good one. LOL!


I suspect Bush will go into Iran this summer and McCain's chances will tank. This thing is far from over. They're not leaving Iraq...EVER. No matter what Obama says. They're gonna knock off Iran and control the entire Gulf region's oil producing capacity at that point.

That will leave Obama free to set the stage to check the Chinese during his presidency starting with his attack on Pakistan under the guise of looking for bin Laden. The Pakistanis fear Obama more than Bush because he's already made his intention to invade them clear. They are an ally of China. LOL! All part of the Grand Chessboard. ;)

@Atheist


You sound like a political pundit. LOL! Obama was at the Nissan Pavillion in Northern Virginia tonight for free. He's got a lot of white support.

I think there are numerous reasons why Obama won and most important of all is TIMING. Hillary's speechmaking is typical of white politicians. They're all uninspiring to me. If black people can't do anything else we can talk a good one. LOL!


I suspect Bush will go into Iran this summer and McCain's chances will tank. This thing is far from over. They're not leaving Iraq...EVER. No matter what Obama says. They're gonna knock off Iran and control the entire Gulf region's oil producing capacity at that point.

That will leave Obama free to set the stage to check the Chinese during his presidency starting with his attack on Pakistan under the guise of looking for bin Laden. The Pakistanis fear Obama more than Bush because he's already made his intention to invade them clear. They are an ally of China. LOL! All part of the Grand Chessboard. ;)

I posted twice today, neither one of my comments made it. In fact I was the first one this morning. Why they hating?

To everybody out there i am from memphis,TN and im 18 so that means im young and southern....I would like to start out with the fact that I am a huge Jay-z fan. Being from the south I see alot of people ride lil wayne only bcus they're not use 2 someone of that caliber, and its mostly bcus southern dj's dnt play other regions. i always read and hear alot of people say NY shows no love but the truth is the south shows no love 2 other places. Right now to the mass of idiots out there lil wayne is the best and thats only bcus of wat they hear. Lil wayne comes w/hundreds of mixtapes to beat his self into peoples minds. But people there is one hope and one hope only for my generation and that is 4 us to push lupe Fiasco into the forefront. He is the true chosen one against the false profit called weezy and we must realize it b4 he is drowned out by idiocracy. Lupe save us all and redeem my generation b4 we enter a hip-hop hell on earth.

LOVE THIS SH$T
HOW CAN I GET A COPY
EMAIL IT TO ME.....
I M FROM THE NO....
"IF U DON'T RESPECT THE PAST,FOUNDERS,CREATORS OR WHATEVER U CALL THEM/US.....THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN OR IS NO ....YOU!!!

I don't respect wayne. He's ah faggot, he's known to have ghost writers, and then he'll say he's the best but when somebody steps to him he copps ah plea. 50 dissed him for,like ah month straight...........wayne no answer. Gillie completed shitted on him..........wayne no answer. He's ah fuckin' fraud and only average at best.

Eh, why everytime I log onto a blog from SOHH, somebody always tryna diss da SOUTH mayne? Don't hate our style and original Swagg. I'm from that T.E.X.A.S. and we r'nt know 4 hating but who is this "SOUTH" u boyz keep referring 2?? Weezy F got some flow but there are ALOT of homies that can eat on the same table as this dude! I ain't gonna dis da boy bc I been listining 2 dat cat since he was like 14 with the HOT BOYS and everyone knew one day he was gonna b a jewel. Let's not get it twisted though, I used 2 jam all them East Coast boyz and some of them West Coast boyz bc the nation wasn't recognizing out Southern Credo. Stop Hatin tha South mayne. And 4 tha record...UGK is one of the Best of All Time! I caught wind of some flawed @$$ bruh dissing my nicca Young Chad "Pimp C" Butler. Let that man live on! Rest in Pimp C, UGK 4 LIFE! Like the late GREAT FAT PAT said, "Don't hate T.E.X.A.S. plates showin' up in ya state!" Don't hate the playa, hate the game!

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