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More Music Fresh Out of Staten, Plus, Prodigy Keys Another Blog, Vents on his Differences with Nas

Written by SOHH Reckless

Posted on March 11, 2008 2:46 AM

With over 500,000 people packed onto the tiny island of Staten, I think there should be way more music coming from out of the home of the Wu-Tang Clan. Every other week we see a new rapper emerge from out of the streets of Brooklyn, Queens, sometimes The Bronx, Harlem (maybe L.E.S)... and Yonkers-- a part of New York that isn't even IN New York City. But never do we hear a peep from Shaolin. So since this kid AC seems to be consistent and persistent, and I respect what he's doing as far as trying to bring some fresh recognition back to S.I., here's yet another vid from the young MC.

Footage on AC constructing a track called "Trapped on the Island," featuring fellow Shaolin rapper Trife Da God

I see it working. Keep going at it.

We need more Staten Island rappers. Where are they?


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After all that talk, Prodigy STILL isn't locked up. And on HNIC2.com, you can get up close and personal with him through the (sometimes hard to read) blog he writes. This one was posted yesterday, and in it, he reflects on rappers he does-- and does not-- f*ck with. As far as Nas:

NAS- got fire but it seems as tho he is lost and needs to stop lying about me and how i hate him??? never,,,only looked up to him as an artist and friend. he confusing the people with that. and he sided with jay for protection when we got with g-unit after bashing me. jay put together all the mobb/prodigy haters after hearing about us teaming wit g-unit..he needed a army, and he was right for doing so.. it made them all feel safer,, nas is also too sneaky and on some back stab shit so im bout to stop praising him and really just sever ties completely...i want and i try real hard for him to dead the bullshit tho,, it was my idea to squash the beef and come to his central park show years back,, but some funny shit happened there like he tried to set me up and lake boyz got they asses wupped out,, and we still did the show after the fight,,,,,,ask buster rghyms and q-tip bout that one

And he reflected on everyone from 2Pac to Big Pun, Fat Joe, The Lox, and even Havoc-- everyone but Prodigy himself. Why not? Why not talk about how much of a corny, washed-up, 50-prasing d*ck rider he became once he got with G-Unit? And he blames Jay for building an army of Mobb Deep/G-Unit haters? Shady Hov is now taking KY gelly up his anus in exchange for the Brooklyn big bucks, so I wouldn't put P's claims past him BUT I have to disagree with P on this one; the only Mobb Deep haters that surfaced were HIS OWN FANS. They sold out, and in return the fans turned their backs and voiced their disgust. Me being one of them.

---------> "Nas... needs to stop lying about me and how i hate him??? never,,, only looked up to him as an artist and friend. he confusing the people with that."

But it looks like Prodigy had a little hate going on for the kid a couple of years ago. Back in late 2006, Nas responded to the Mobb's claims that Nas only signed to Def Jam in response to them signing to G-Unit:

"Mobb Deep signing to G-Unit is a disgrace to hip-hop," Nas said. "I love them little brothers, but don't speak on Nas. It doesn't make sense. You learned from me. That's the bottom line. It's easy to tattoo somebody's crew on your knuckles and act like you tough," the lyricist continued. "But be a man, let's see how far you get. And I believe in Mobb Deep. I believe that they will prosper even though they say negative stuff. They my little duns. Those are my little babies."


And Nas 'needed a army' for the defense against who? Because last time we checked, G-Unit only fell flat, and so did Mobb Deep's momentum... and respect. The '06 Hot 97 Summer Jam pretty much proved that.

But if Nas really had Prodigy set up at the Central Park show when P was trying to reach out, then that's shady business. And Nas probably did-- I wouldn't put that past any n*gga from Queens... bridge.








Posted by: SOHH Reckless, 2:55AM

166 Comments

Queens rappers need to stop beefing. i blame 50 Cent he has poisoned the atmosphere in New york. 50 Cent needs to be put in check for real. All I know is P and Mobb Deep have been puting out fire these last couple months. Return of the Mac was great & other leaked material! Nas & Mobb need to squash that sh*t and give us some of those good Quens street tales. Nas has a biuzz for the album so they need to stop hatin and build.

QB 4 LIFE

QB bitch

FUCK QB..IT'S ALL ABOUT BROOKLYN SON..REAL TALK!! YA'LL NIGGAZ IN QB ARE SOME STRAIGHT WACK ASS BITCHES...FUCK ALL THAT FIGHTING..GET MONEY, GET HOES, GET FRESH, AND LIVE THE LIFE..OR GO TO COLLEGE.LIKE ME!! I GET HOES, GO TO SCHOOL, AND DON'T GIVE A FUCK. FUCK QB ONCE AGAIN.

Itz just sad watz happening to P, Nas and Jigga are on a diffrent level and dunn knows it so he signed wit dat bitch 50. They used to be da illest grimiest cats around next to Wu Tang, now they just fell off.

Sheek Louch is garbage? Something tells me you won't say that to big mans face, L.O.X. got the best lyrics in the game forever, MOBB aint f*ckin wit any of um........still can't believe yall signed wit that G Unit bullshit, worst move EVER in hiphop in my opinion, its a sad day to see one of your favorite groups sign with your least favorite set of actors, amerika's nightmare followed up by that half ass album, and you know styles p killed that verse on the pearly gates in my opinion he was aiming them words directly at YOU, even garbage J Hood aimed that verse at you, smarten up P, you helped kill it, the least you could do is try to make hiphop turn back in hiphop

Pearly Gates (insturmental)

Styles P: "what I means you actin nigga, I aint hustlin down south, but I'm trappin niggaz, clappin niggas, P gon make i t happen nigga, smack this nigga, fuck around and yap this nigga, in jail I woulda killed you by the chaplin nigga"

J Hood: "i been sick since the day I was born nigga you been a faggot, ya lips done touched more balls then a tennis racket"

J Hood: "i been sick since the day I was born nigga you been a faggot, ya lips done touched more balls then a tennis racket"


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LMAOLMAOLMAO J-Hood got some funny shit fo real


aight back to the topic, HIPHOP BATTLES & COMPETITION make hip hop way more entertaining so stop crying and biching aint nobody's career seriously being hurt or damaged so STFU and just enjoy the excitement, 50 only added more fuel to the fire and Mop Deep is still ill when it comes to rappin

It's not 50's fault Mobb fell off. He did them a favor by signing them. Same with MOP. I love old school but we're talking about people who peaked over a decade ago. Does anyone expect Tribe, Redman or Raekwon to recapture past glory? If you do then that explains why most of you are always left complaining.


NY fans are constantly disappointed because they expect artists to do the impossible and turn back the hands of time. The deaths of Pac and Big overshadowed everyone who had momentum before that. The only ones who seem to have weathered that period are Jay, Nas and maybe one or two more if that.


Those deaths changed the way the music was made, changed the lyrical content, and more importantly, changed the fans' expectations of the artists. The artists tried to adjust and even Busta started talking tough.


Now we have P talking about Nas joined Jay for "protection." LOL! From who? From what?!! That's the sillyness I can't deal with in hop hop. The only time rappers get hurt or killed is when they go out of their way to bring REAL gangsters in the mix to add credibility. These guys let their marketing schemes distort their reality with serious consequences at times. They get so delusional they start actually believing they're some type of organized crime families. LOL!


I think everyone needs a reality check. Rappers are NOT mobsters. NONE of them. At best they were PETTY drug dealers and criminals prior to rap. No one needs protection from ANY of them.


They all come in the business like meek lambs and as the money grows, the ego, the lies, the tough guy personna grows with it. Before you know it they believe their own bullshit and start roaring like Lions. Remember how lame and shy Snoop was when he did Deep Cover with Dre? Or the G Thang video? Sell a few albums and he "cripping" hard, dissing NY at the Source awards and kicking over NY skyscrapers in his videos. LOL!


I'll never forget when 50 first got on he sat on MTV with Dre and Em and I think it was Sway who asked him what is it he feared most and he humbly replied, "Dre and Em." He dropped GRODT and hasn't "feared" anyone since.... How soon we forget.

Nimrod you are a faggot, but you made probably the best post this year on this toilet bowl of a blog.

Prodigy is now beyond delusional, which is charming, because it is funny.
The fact remains that none of these rappers will do it "big" again.
Hip Hop as an art form is dead as one can be, even true artists try to appeal to the masses. Remember Keith Murray's first single or Sheek Louch's Good Love? That is garbage, a desperate attempt to be part of the party culture.

New York rappers embarrass themselves and their city.

It's over, let's move on.


A final note to the worthless loser:

# HowardUniversity2010 says...
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FUCK QB..IT'S ALL ABOUT BROOKLYN SON..FUCK ALL THAT FIGHTING..GET MONEY, GET HOES, GET FRESH, AND LIVE THE LIFE..OR GO TO COLLEGE.LIKE ME!! I GET HOES, [...]

Did you learn that in school? You will amount to nothing in your life. You are the garbage that we need to get rid of in order to improve our community. It's good to see niggas go to school, but it is is even worse than the average failure, because you apparently waste your chance by being stupid. But there is hope - when you fail your tests, because you are too busy with "dem hoes", just pull the race card and blame Whitey. It's THEIR FAULT, GET HOES AND MONEY NIGGA!!!!"

LOL @ losers. Please die.

I LIKE NAS I REALLY DO, MY COUSIN SPIDER LOC ALSO LIKES NAS, BUT HE IS GETTING WAY OUTTA LINE WITH ALL THIS RECKLESS TALK. I RESPECT NAS AND HAVE NO NEGITIVE STUFF TO SAY ABOUT HIM, BUT IF HE DOESN'T STOP I'LL TELL SPIDER LOC TO DROP AN EITHER TYPE SHIT MAYBE TOE TAGZ PART. 2 TO END HIS FUCKING CAREER. PEACE TO MY BROTHERS PZ, BIGUPB2K, AND ALL THE REST OF YA'LL WHO RIDING WITH ME IN THIS G-UNIT CRIP CARD. LASTLY PRODIGY DROPPED A 4 MIC ALBUM LAST YEAR WITH THE RETURN OF THE MAC, YOU NEVER GAVE HIM CREDIT FOR THAT. RECKLESS I'M SPIDER LOC COUSIN AND HOW COME YOU DON'T RUN ANY STORIES ON THE G-UNIT CRIPS WE GOT OUT HERE? ANYWAY VOTE HIILLARY AND FUCK OBAMA, ALSO BIGUPB2K, DRE GUEVERRA, BROOKLYN B, I TOLD SPIDER LOC WHAT YA'LL NIGGAZ SAID YESTERDAY AND HE TOLD ME TO SAY NEXT TIME YA'LL NIGGAZ TALK RECKLESS LIKE THAT AGAIN HE IS PERSONALLY GOING TO CONTACT SOHH AND GET YA'LL IP ADDRESSES AND GET THE CRIPS/BMF AFTER YA'LL OK. BESIDES WHY DO U WANT THAT I'M MAKING THIS ENTIRE BLOG HONORARY G-UNIT CRIPS TODAY THATS THE LIFE OF A KING I'M TELLING YA'LL WE RUNNIN LA

QU STAND UP!!

Not for nothin son do got a point. Queens is like the set up capital. Don't sleep on da chicks either... Half da time they the ones wit da drop. Hell they call my hood "Shadyville" and we live up to the name every chance we get.

As for dem rappers, they workin wit too much guap to feel some kind of way towards anybody.

Yea,u can't blame 50 for signin the..If u had a label and u knew they were free agents,u woulda signed them too @ the time..Blame the MOBB for getting lazy,n thinkin that just cuz they signed with 50,they would sell off the rip..
There's too much HATE in NY..Once a nigga get on top,we want the niggas to retire..Then u wanna promote these wack ass basement rappers who will NEVER come out..But if they were to go to the top,YOu'd want them to reitre too..If all these niggas were to stop beefin and get along with each other n make sum good music,NY will be back in a hearbeat..But everyone's out for self

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I LIKE NAS I REALLY DO, MY COUSIN SPIDER LOC ALSO LIKES NAS, BUT HE IS GETTING WAY OUTTA LINE WITH ALL THIS RECKLESS TALK. I RESPECT NAS AND HAVE NO NEGITIVE STUFF TO SAY ABOUT HIM, BUT IF HE DOESN'T STOP I'LL TELL SPIDER LOC TO DROP AN EITHER TYPE SHIT MAYBE TOE TAGZ PART. 2 TO END HIS FUCKING CAREER. PEACE TO MY BROTHERS PZ, BIGUPB2K, AND ALL THE REST OF YA'LL WHO RIDING WITH ME IN THIS G-UNIT CRIP CARD. LASTLY PRODIGY DROPPED A 4 MIC ALBUM LAST YEAR WITH THE RETURN OF THE MAC, YOU NEVER GAVE HIM CREDIT FOR THAT. RECKLESS I'M SPIDER LOC COUSIN AND HOW COME YOU DON'T RUN ANY STORIES ON THE G-UNIT CRIPS WE GOT OUT HERE? ANYWAY VOTE HIILLARY AND FUCK OBAMA, ALSO BIGUPB2K, DRE GUEVERRA, BROOKLYN B, I TOLD SPIDER LOC WHAT YA'LL NIGGAZ SAID YESTERDAY AND HE TOLD ME TO SAY NEXT TIME YA'LL NIGGAZ TALK RECKLESS LIKE THAT AGAIN HE IS PERSONALLY GOING TO CONTACT SOHH AND GET YA'LL IP ADDRESSES AND GET THE CRIPS/BMF AFTER YA'LL OK. BESIDES WHY DO U WANT THAT I'M MAKING THIS ENTIRE BLOG HONORARY G-UNIT CRIPS TODAY THATS THE LIFE OF A KING I'M TELLING YA'LL WE RUNNIN LA

March 11, 2008 8:35 AM

I really don't get why you would say Mobb Deep sold out. If you are an artist and a record company is will to pay you money even if you don't produce that much for them, wouldn't you take it. They have been through the record business for a long time so they know a good deal when they see it. What should they have done, went to Def Jam? Even though they didn't do the numbers they were "suppose" to do, the album was good. For those people who don't agree, my question for you is did you even hear the album? They were single was the backdrop for radio promo's, ads, and the whole nine so "Put em in there place" was a hit. G-unit at the time and still to a degree now, was big at the time so why not join forces. Especially when they are going to let you be you. I didn't see Jay or Cam or Nas offering them money or a Porsche. You could hate G-unit all you want but they take care of their artist. That is why a lot of your favorite rappers would consider going there including your boys from D-Block. Just ask the Ghost. Money talks and bullshit walks. Why would you think Nas went to Def Jam after such a brutal battle with Jay? The guy smashed his baby's mom while he was with her man. If there any one single sell-out move, this would be it! If I was Nas, that camel would have tied up to the roof of my car by now. In closing, get off of your bullshit that people sold out!!!

YO, prod is puss, 1st off the LAST place a blackman should be scared to go is jail, i dont give a fuck, when them fuckers ready to lock u up they will. 2nd why would u wait til you about to get locked up to TALK SHIT about rappers. lets be for real niggas locked up is some ignorant muthafuckas with nothing but time on they hands, i done seen friends fight over who's better big or pac so u know niggas gonna get down in the belly of the beast.
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is this muthafucka crazy??? thats why i dont fuck with P cause the nigga always wanna diss jay. last time he said after jay exposed him on that summer jam screen (classic) he saw jay by him self and he was like 30 deep and jay told him its just entertainment no beef cause he knew they was gonna pound him out, now jay build up a army of mobb deep haters??? wow, so it aint got shit to do with uh.......not having a label, doing that wack ass song with 112 (IMO) then signing to g-unit?

NIMROD SAYS...

The Layer says...

What's good SOHHers? I was reading the latest Don Diva the other night and it has some very informative articles!!! One in particular that stood out was about The Black Man becoming extinct!!! Great food for thought ppl!!!! I advise all of yall to go check it out!!!! Keep Hip Hop true my people! Stay up

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I wish Don Diva would be as anti-drug as they are anti-snitch, NO ONE who has ever sold drugs should be proud of it. The talk about snitches serves only to take away from the real issue and that's the drug game is a trap off. Enterprising young men are used to decimate their own communities and then they too are thrust into the lion's den when the REAL gangster is through with them. That mag is filled with delusional PAWNS who are proud to have been duped by the man.The modern era drug dealer is the equivalent of the blacks who aided the slave trade. The drug trade created the snitch culture we now have making it disengenuous to be anti-snitch and not anti-drug. Of course a magazine like Don Diva caters to those who believe selling drugs and bringing shame to their parents is some sort of honorable lifestyle. If they dare tell it like it is who would buy it? Stop promoting ignorance. Unless these people are willing to do more than brag about the material objects they once had or whine about the snitches who weren't true to the game I don't need to hear what they have to say.Enough is enough. Take responsibility for your actions and use your life as a deterrent to those ready to make the same mistakes you made. Anything other than that is just a perpetuation of the same ole bullshit and that we can do without.
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@Nimrod

My fam was in that mag before,and I'd have to admit that I'm curious of not only you but who alot of these people are on this blog,and what personal issues they have with certain individuals.

but your a thousand percent right about dondiva mag.

this issue they have out now confused the fuck out of me.

they were quoting statistics about the plight of black men and how we're in a state of emergency but they didn't say who was to blame or what we have to do,it seems like they left that up to the reader to decide.

I don't know if they were scared to tell the truth and anger there readership who think any admonishment to our people is siding with the white man,which is CRAZY and LOONY when you think about the stuff your admonishing them on:

1.stop killin and violating your own people over bullshit.
2.stop sellin and using hard drugs. 3.take care of your kids and family.
4.be the best you can be in a positive way.
5.be careful and protect yourself when you havin sex or limit your sex partners all together.

The magazine tried to keep it objective and just state the facts but I pay attention to tones,sideway comments,and insinuation too...

And the impression that I got was that they were trying to blame it on some outside source entirely,and they still think its cute or it makes you a "real man" if you been through the system,have a criminal record,or lived the "street life" and did cruddy shit to your own people.

They still sound like some project hood rat braggin about there baby daddy gettin locked up for shootin somebody over bullshit.

Its also funny how they try to give off the impression that these dudes thats locked up are some how being oppressed,LoL!

Do the crime,do the time and work on your appeals nigga and shut up! If you aint innocent Its your fault that your lonely in prison...

And If you still gettin locked up after a certain age,depending on the crime,I don't know if I have sympathy.

People are sooo fascinated with people who did things that they wouldn't or couldn't do,or the bad guy "gangster" so to speak,even so much so that they even expect there favorite rapper to be a real gangsters.

They can't separate entertainment with reality,they actually think that there learning how to be a real G from this stuff,LoL!

you even got fools that think you shouldn't be allowed to rap if your not street.

I don't knock my people gettin paid for entertainment,especially if whites have gangster flix geared towards grown ups,but I sure wish more of my people would stop thinkin this stuff is cute or admirable and denounce drugs and unnecessary violence in our community and stop making excuses for it.

Yeah I'm mad at the system,but I'm mad that we aint outsmartin the system.

what needs to be deaded asap is niggas that b postin their fuckin memoirs on here, long as fuck like anyone except u cares about what u gota say

DAMN YA'LL NIGGAS ON MY DICK EARLY I SEE. THAT AINT ME STOP STANNING ME GET OFF MY G-UNOT KILLING DICK. , MY COUSIN IS SPIDER LOC AND IM NOT A MOLESTER. @RECKLESS YOU NEED TO DO A BLOG ON MY COUSIN SPIDER LOC HE'S BETTER THEN ANY RAPPER OUT RIGHT NOW, HE GOT 5K IN HIS CHECKING ACCOUNT NOW WITH NO ALBUM OUT HOW GREAT IS THAT.
I'LL TELL SPIDER LOC TO DROP IN AND COMMENT ON YOU BUSTERS ESPECIALLY BIGUPB2K GAY ASS I KNOW ITS YOU TELLING EVERYONE ABOUT THAT ONE TIME I GOT CAUGHT TOUCHING THAT LITTLE BOY BUT AFTER THAT TIME I SWEAR I NEVER TOUCHED A BOY AGAIN THATS WORD TO PIDER LOC.
PEACE TO MY G-UNIT BROTHERS AND FUCK THE REST OF YA'LL WHO AINT RIDING WITH ME IN THIS G-UNIT GRAPE ST CRIP DAMU MS-13 GD SET I CLAIM. LASTLY PRODIGY DROPPED A 4 MIC ALBUM LAST YEAR WITH THE RETURN OF THE MAC IT WOULD'VE BEEN 5 MICS BUT HE AINT DO A TRACK WITH MY COUSIN, DO YOU KNOW WHO MY COUSIN IS??? FOR THOSE WHO DONT KOW ITS SPIDER LOC NIGGA, AND RECKLESS YOU NEVER GAVE HIM CREDIT FOR THAT ALBUM AND IT HURTED ME INSIDE WHEN YOU DIDNT. RECKLESS I'M SPIDER LOC COUSIN AND I DONT HAVE TO TAKE THIS SHIT.
HOW COME YOU DON'T RUN ANY STORIES ON THE G-UNIT PIRU ARYAN NATION TREE TOP CRIPS WE GOT OUT THERE? ANYWAY VOTE FOR SPIDER LOC NEW ALBUM TO COME OUT AND FUCK THE REST THE WEST IS THE BEST, WHO?? SPIDER LOC NIGGA. ALSO PLEASE REMEMBER TO SPAY OR NEUTER YOU PETS

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OBVIOUSLY NOT ME DON'T MIND THE DICKHEAD LOL HE'S JUST A BLOG DICKRIDER WHO CAN'T GET AN IDENTITY OF HIS OWN.


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OBVIOUSLY I GET IT FROM YOUR COUSIN. YOU WANNA KNOW WHO HE IS??

WHO? AND DONT SAY SPIDER LOC CAUSE HE'S MINES

Nimrod says:

Remember how lame and shy Snoop was when he did Deep Cover with Dre? Or the G Thang video? Sell a few albums and he "cripping" hard, dissing NY at the Source awards and kicking over NY skyscrapers in his videos. LOL!
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LMAO! Yes,snoop looked like he was scared of his own shadow in that video.he looked like he was scared to look in the video camera,I can definatly believe that suge was pimp slappin him back in the day,now he's the big king crip of the coast,yyyeah oook...

WoW rap is trash. And so is 95% of you bumbs. Keystone caperd.

@Agnostic


I can only speak for myself. I have no personal issues with anyone. I've been around and after a while you notice shit is one big circle so I spot the bullshit in advance.


Kevin Chiles, the owner of Don Diva is a quack. He tries to present what he does with that magazine as being something noble and all he's doing is trying to make a buck like everyone else. On top of that, he's a hypocrite because he cooperated with the poilce to get the killer of his mother arrested and sent to prison. His father took the stand and he put Sharay Watson on the stand to testify. There's more but young dudes read that mag and focus on the wrong shit. The dude Chuck Born who testified against Kevin is on the street right in Mt. Vernon. Kev knows this and he won't do shit because he is and has always been a punk. He isn't mad at Alpo for being a rat. He's mad at Po for fucking his baby mom's and putting it on the screen in the Rooftop back in the day for the whole of Harlem to see.


I see people caught up in so much bullshit about the streets. The authority on the streets are now entertainers and punks like Kev. Like I said, I came up around a lot of dudes. I share what I know and saw firsthand for free. Dudes can take it or doubt me and leave it.


Truth be told my, my name and reputation is a good one. Some would say a VERY good one. I'm just fortunate enough to grow past all that and choose to share ANONYMOUSLY. Ya Dig?

G-UNOT KILLA /THE REAL ONE says...


ALSO PLEASE REMEMBER TO SPAY OR NEUTER YOU PETS


March 11, 2008 9:25 AM

STOP USING MY FUCKING NAME MAN DAMN! YOU CAN'T BE ME IM A PUSSY ASS NIGGA DAMN! STOP TAKING MY NAME AND SAYING GAY SHIT BUT NOT SAYING NO HOMO. FUCK BIGUPB2K ANUSTIC AND ANYBODY WHO AIN'T DOWN WITH THE UNIT G-UNIT LATIN KINGS GRAPE ST CRIP 4 LIFE. WATTS UP JORDAN'S DOWN IF YOUR DICK AINT BIG IM BOUND TO CLIZZOWN (NO HOMO, MY NIGGA) AND IF I AINT NAME DROP MY COUSIN YET THEN ALLOW ME TO DO IT NOW
GIVE ME A S-S YOU GOT YOUR S YOU GOT YOUR S
GIVE ME A P-P YOU GOT YOU P YOU GOT YOUR P GIVE ME A I-I YOU GOT YOUR I YOU GOT YOUR I GIVE ME A D-D (YOU KNOW) I GOT THAT D I GOT THAT D GIVE ME A E-E YOU GOT THAT E YOU GOT THAT E GIVE ME A R-R YOU GOT THAT R YOU GOT THAT R GIVE ME A AWW FUCK IT WHAT DOES IT SPELL??? SPIDER LOC

Quick hit then done. P is a clown. What's funny is I like the Mobb. Someone referenced an encounter with Jay earlier regarding P. Understand one thing, P isn't a gangster. Someone hit it on the head earlier. A lot of these cats were petty lowlifes before they realized they had some talent and made a name for themselves rapping. There are very few that have real power and Jay is one of them. He came in on his own laurels and he's still resting on them. That to me is true credibility. I'm not a Jay stan but I respect his hustle. I can't stand Diddy but I respect his hustle. I'm a fan of hip hop, I don't care about the background bullshit. I guess if it wasn't for that background shit however, Reckless and others like him wouldn't have a job. These topics get more and more lame by the day. I have a good one, free Elliot Spitzer. Elliot Ness, the next great politician, NY's one man riot squad. A fucking hypocrite. GTFOH!!!!!!!!

@ a g n o s t i c

LMAO! Yes,snoop looked like he was scared of his own shadow in that video.he looked like he was scared to look in the video camera,I can definatly believe that suge was pimp slappin him back in the day,now he's the big king crip of the coast,yyyeah oook...
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GTF OUTTA HERE NY NIGGAZ WERE SCARED TO START TROUBLE UNTIL BIG WENT ON THE RADIO AND BITCHED & MOANED ABOUT HOW A LA NIGGA COULD COME AND SHOOT A VIDEO IN NY. THAT'S WHEN THEY SHOT UP HIS TRAILER. THATS CRAZY HOW NY NIGGAZ FORGET HOW QUIET JAY-Z, AND BIGGIE WERE. THE ONLY ONES WHO STOOD UP WAS MOBB DEEP & NAS. THATS CRAZY HOW NY NIGGAS FORGET HOW SUGE ROUTINLY PARLAYS IN NY EVEN THOUGH HE PROB KILLED BIGGIE LOL NY NIGGAZ ARE SO SOFT. WHY DO YOU THINK BIGGIE GOT HIS ASS SMOKED IN LA??? BECAUSE NIGGAZ KNEW HE HAD SOMETHING TO DO W/PAC BEING KILLED. WHY DO YOU THINK NY NIGGAZ SUCK WEST COAST DICK LIKE STARTING BLOODS AND SENDING TAPES BACK TO LA TO VALIDATE THIER STATUS?!?!? LOL BITCH NIGGAZ. OR WHY DO NY NIGGAZ NEED WEST COAST PASSES TO COME OUT HERE!?!?! BECAUSE YA'LL KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS UP. LIKE XZIBIT SAID "IF IT WASN'T 4 DA WEST/ THESE RAP NIGGAZ WOULDN'T HAVE TO WEAR A VEST AROUND THEY CHEST"

lol @ bob barker ass niggas says...
G-UNOT KILLA /THE REAL ONE says...


ALSO PLEASE REMEMBER TO SPAY OR NEUTER YOU PETS


March 11, 2008 9:25 AM

March 11, 2008 9:53 AM
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MY COSIN SPIDER LOC TOLD ME THAT GETTING YOUR PETS SPAYED OR NEUTERED WAS GANGSTA G-UNIT GRAPE ST TREE TOP CRIP SHIT AND THATS HOW I ROLL HOMIE.
WATTS UP HOMIE
AND FUCK YOU ANUSTIC AND NIM NUTS THIS IS THE SPIDER LOC BLOG NOW IMMA SHOW YOU HOW THE WEST WAS WON. AND SINCE YOU KNOW SO MUCH NUMNUTS WHY DONT YOU TELL PEOPLE HOW GANGSTA MY COUSIN INCASE YOU DIDNT KNOW SPIDER LOC IS

Its funny how the wangsters on this blog come out of no where catchings feelings because the clowns I talk about in my comments I post might apply to them...

Oh well,I guess its hard to quit ignorance cold turkey.

G-UNOT KILLA says...
@ a g n o s t i c

LMAO! Yes,snoop looked like he was scared of his own shadow in that video.he looked like he was scared to look in the video camera,I can definatly believe that suge was pimp slappin him back in the day,now he's the big king crip of the coast,yyyeah oook...
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GTF OUTTA HERE NY NIGGAZ WERE SCARED TO START TROUBLE UNTIL BIG WENT ON THE RADIO AND BITCHED & MOANED ABOUT HOW A LA NIGGA COULD COME AND SHOOT A VIDEO IN NY. THAT'S WHEN THEY SHOT UP HIS TRAILER. THATS CRAZY HOW NY NIGGAZ FORGET HOW QUIET JAY-Z, AND BIGGIE WERE. THE ONLY ONES WHO STOOD UP WAS MOBB DEEP & NAS. THATS CRAZY HOW NY NIGGAS FORGET HOW SUGE ROUTINLY PARLAYS IN NY EVEN THOUGH HE PROB KILLED BIGGIE LOL NY NIGGAZ ARE SO SOFT. WHY DO YOU THINK BIGGIE GOT HIS ASS SMOKED IN LA??? BECAUSE NIGGAZ KNEW HE HAD SOMETHING TO DO W/PAC BEING KILLED. WHY DO YOU THINK NY NIGGAZ SUCK WEST COAST DICK LIKE STARTING BLOODS AND SENDING TAPES BACK TO LA TO VALIDATE THIER STATUS?!?!? LOL BITCH NIGGAZ. OR WHY DO NY NIGGAZ NEED WEST COAST PASSES TO COME OUT HERE!?!?! BECAUSE YA'LL KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS UP. LIKE XZIBIT SAID "IF IT WASN'T 4 DA WEST/ THESE RAP NIGGAZ WOULDN'T HAVE TO WEAR A VEST AROUND THEY CHEST"

March 11, 2008 9:55 AM

G-UNOT KILLA says...

STOP USING MY FUCKING NAME MAN DAMN! YOU CAN'T BE ME IM A PUSSY ASS NIGGA DAMN! STOP TAKING MY NAME AND SAYING GAY SHIT BUT NOT SAYING NO HOMO. FUCK BIGUPB2K ANUSTIC AND ANYBODY WHO AIN'T DOWN WITH THE UNIT G-UNIT LATIN KINGS GRAPE ST CRIP 4 LIFE. WATTS UP JORDAN'S DOWN IF YOUR DICK AINT BIG IM BOUND TO CLIZZOWN (NO HOMO, MY NIGGA) AND IF I AINT NAME DROP MY COUSIN YET THEN ALLOW ME TO DO IT NOW
GIVE ME A S-S YOU GOT YOUR S YOU GOT YOUR S
GIVE ME A P-P YOU GOT YOU P YOU GOT YOUR P GIVE ME A I-I YOU GOT YOUR I YOU GOT YOUR I GIVE ME A D-D (YOU KNOW) I GOT THAT D I GOT THAT D GIVE ME A E-E YOU GOT THAT E YOU GOT THAT E GIVE ME A R-R YOU GOT THAT R YOU GOT THAT R GIVE ME A AWW FUCK IT WHAT DOES IT SPELL??? SPIDER LOC
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VERY FUNNY BITCH, WHEN I CATCH WHOEVER THIS IS, I'M SNUFFING THE HELL OUTTA YOU BITCH.

Imagine if nas had business sense and wouldve made ill will records like the roc or gunit, and all that talent signed to him.... like the mobb, nature, cormega.... dam nas....

"the only Mobb Deep haters that surfaced were HIS OWN FANS. They sold out, and in return the fans turned their backs and voiced their disgust. Me being one of them."

SOHH Reckless


@ Reckless,

Co-sign!

Shouts 2 Nim, Agnostic, Brooklyn B, Moresicka, Bigup2BK, PZ, E. Frazier


LOL @ BUSTERS ON HERE THINKING SNOOP ALBUM WAS RNB.... U BETTER GO TO ALL HIP HOP.COM . EGO TRIPPIN TODAY IN STORES

SPIDER JOKE NEVER COMING OUT.

"the only Mobb Deep haters that surfaced were HIS OWN FANS. They sold out, and in return the fans turned their backs and voiced their disgust. Me being one of them."

SOHH Reckless


@ Reckless,

Co-sign!

Shouts 2 Nim, Agnostic, Brooklyn B, Moresicka, Bigup2BK, PZ, E. Frazier

G-UNOT KILLA/THE REAL ONE says...
G-UNOT KILLA says...

STOP USING MY FUCKING NAME MAN DAMN! YOU CAN'T BE ME IM A PUSSY ASS NIGGA DAMN! STOP TAKING MY NAME AND SAYING GAY SHIT BUT NOT SAYING NO HOMO. FUCK BIGUPB2K ANUSTIC AND ANYBODY WHO AIN'T DOWN WITH THE UNIT G-UNIT LATIN KINGS GRAPE ST CRIP 4 LIFE. WATTS UP JORDAN'S DOWN IF YOUR DICK AINT BIG IM BOUND TO CLIZZOWN (NO HOMO, MY NIGGA) AND IF I AINT NAME DROP MY COUSIN YET THEN ALLOW ME TO DO IT NOW
GIVE ME A S-S YOU GOT YOUR S YOU GOT YOUR S
GIVE ME A P-P YOU GOT YOU P YOU GOT YOUR P GIVE ME A I-I YOU GOT YOUR I YOU GOT YOUR I GIVE ME A D-D (YOU KNOW) I GOT THAT D I GOT THAT D GIVE ME A E-E YOU GOT THAT E YOU GOT THAT E GIVE ME A R-R YOU GOT THAT R YOU GOT THAT R GIVE ME A AWW FUCK IT WHAT DOES IT SPELL??? SPIDER LOC
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VERY FUNNY BITCH, WHEN I CATCH WHOEVER THIS IS, I'M SNUFFING THE HELL OUTTA YOU BITCH.

March 11, 2008 10:08 AM
ARE YOU GONNA DO IT OR SPIDER LOC.....YOU KNOW WHO THAT IS RIGHT??? PUNK ASS NIGGA

BIG SNOOP DOGG says...

LOL @ BUSTERS ON HERE THINKING SNOOP ALBUM WAS RNB.... U BETTER GO TO ALL HIP HOP.COM . EGO TRIPPIN TODAY IN STORES


SPIDER JOKE NEVER COMING OUT.


March 11, 2008 10:14 AM
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NIGGA SPIDER LOC IS THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE SINCE

BIG SNOOP DOGG says...

LOL @ BUSTERS ON HERE THINKING SNOOP ALBUM WAS RNB.... U BETTER GO TO ALL HIP HOP.COM . EGO TRIPPIN TODAY IN STORES


SPIDER JOKE NEVER COMING OUT.


March 11, 2008 10:14 AM


Why go to the stores when you can download Snoops newest weed plate for free right here: http://www.hubupload.com/files/ed0e29a/2aded6e/Snoop_Dogg-Ego_Trippin-(Explicit)-2008-SNOOPDOGG.rar.html


And if you still live at home with your mother and can't play rap music with curse words in it (like PZ, Gunot Killa, Real Talk, and all you other homos) here's is the clean version of Snoops newest Weed plate:
http://www.shareonall.com/Snoop_Dogg-Ego_Trippin_Clean_Album-2008-CMS_yoeq.rar


Ive said it a thousand times,...

WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO DO?

They were stalled the fuck out on colombia. They got no shine, they got no promo, one video, they we're shelved basicly. Finally got released, and found somewhere they could release music. WTF you want them to do? Go broke, not release any music. IMO, if you are a Mobb Deep fan, a true Mobb Deep fan, you wouldnt hate them for doing what they had to do to release music for YOU THE FAN. How come noone hates on NAS for signin with JAYZ?? HUH???
Because its GUnit thats why. I dont give a fuck, I can name 10 peeps right now that will bang Blood Money front to back in thier whip that CD is the MOST hated on. Plus 50 let them do their solo shit with Koch. He put them ina position to win and you wanna hate them for that?
Fickle motherfuckers werent even fans in the first place.
Besides, we all know Reckless got one night standed by Bank$ and She's a fuckin hater and SOHH is anti-gunit all around anyway.

All I gotta say is go D/L that Elephant in the Sand mixtape and listen to Riderz Pt. 2 and Sunroof Open. Period, if you arent stayin up on your hiphop, then kill ya self. Goto thisis50.com and cop Return of the Bodysnatchers and EIS and tell me thats not "the old gunit" the fuckin fire.
Who else is droppin hot shit outta NY right now?
Computers Putin....
Banks & Buck 160 - 170K First Week
Freeway & Beans 50 - 60K First Week
Men lie, women lie, numbers dont, right jay?
Dipset Ova
Roca Fella Dead
G-Unit runs NYC. Sorry Reckless you hating slore.

I don't understand why my fellow New Yorkers are upset with Mobb Depp signing to Gunit. It was never like they was relevant before signing to 50 Cent. Right before they signed to Gunit, they had got drop from Loud Records. Signed to Jive (same label as Britney Spears) put out a weed plate got dropped again. So if someone rich like 50 is going to throw all this money at you, then why not take it. I know all about throwing money at people....okay mostly hookers. But someone has to be the trick and someone has to whore themselves out. That's the way of life

People talk shit about nas signin with jay..... for the same exact reason people shit on the mobb for signin wit 50... CUS HE DISSED THEM BEFORE! Just like jay dissed nas....

@ EREAL, People talk shit about nas signin with jay..... for the same exact reason people shit on the mobb for signin wit 50... CUS HE DISSED THEM BEFORE! Just like jay dissed nas....

Prodigy spittin fire homey...PERIOD... He hotter than any New York rapper right now..... G-unit is New Yorks bread winner homey.... Ya'll niggaz stay hatin on these niggaz.

EReal says...
Ive said it a thousand times,...

WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO DO?

They were stalled the fuck out on colombia. They got no shine, they got no promo, one video, they we're shelved basicly. Finally got released, and found somewhere they could release music. WTF you want them to do? Go broke, not release any music. IMO, if you are a Mobb Deep fan, a true Mobb Deep fan, you wouldnt hate them for doing what they had to do to release music for YOU THE FAN. How come noone hates on NAS for signin with JAYZ?? HUH???
Because its GUnit thats why.
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you a thousand percent right
theres nothing else to say but that, we all know u love g-unit E but i think them signing to them was the straw that broke the camels back for alotta they fans. for me it was the 112 track they did THEN the g-unit signing, i was a big g-unit hater back then now i just dont care. but like u said what was they supposed to do, i think the timing was wrong (but again what was they supposed to do), if they was to sign to them now then that wouldnt be a issue but when they signed you cant front ereal g-units hate was crazy potent

I just got to work this morning, log on my computer and ready to have that westcoast blog dick in my mouth. I hate because I'm a 9 to 5 hoe during the week. I also hate because my co workers make fun of my mother looking like shawn kemp. The last thing is I'm upset because my mother never got me my sex change I ask for. So fuck you faggots

This site will never do that put up any of the NEW G-UNIT MUSIC BECAUSE EVERY SONG THEY HAVE BEEN PUTTING OUT THIS YEAR HAS BEEN FIRE. You have to go to the new hottest website in hip hop today WWW.THISIS50.COM i ask to the unit haters please tell me wheres YOUR FAVORITE RAPPERS WEBSITE can it test WWW.THISIS50.COM who else is dropping heat in 2008 like G-UNIT? Kanye West just dropped a mixtape also Nas just dropped a mixtape to get some buzz for his Nigger album but HAS ANYONE EVEN HEARD THEM ? I dare SOHH TO PUT SOME OF THE NEW G-UNIT TRACKS FROM RETURN OF THE BODYSNATCHERS ON HERE but they cant because ppl will have no choice but to say they are FIRE like they are on every other hip hop website. Its sohh funny da UNIT is dropping new music with videos DAILY but this site dont want you to know about it. BANKS verse in IM LEAVING IS THE VERSE OF THE YEAR SO FAR AND RIDER PT 2 IS THE SONG OF THE YEAR SO FAR 50 WITH THE V-BOX IS KILLING THE STREET HATERS. But sohh shaking in their boots cause 50 got the hottest thing going i hip hop right now with WWW.THIS50.COM .

hoodstar says...
This site will never do that put up any of the NEW G-UNIT MUSIC BECAUSE EVERY SONG THEY HAVE BEEN PUTTING OUT THIS YEAR HAS BEEN FIRE. You have to go to the new hottest website in hip hop today WWW.THISIS50.COM i ask to the unit haters please tell me wheres YOUR FAVORITE RAPPERS WEBSITE can it test WWW.THISIS50.COM who else is dropping heat in 2008 like G-UNIT? Kanye West just dropped a mixtape also Nas just dropped a mixtape to get some buzz for his Nigger album but HAS ANYONE EVEN HEARD THEM ? I dare SOHH TO PUT SOME OF THE NEW G-UNIT TRACKS FROM RETURN OF THE BODYSNATCHERS ON HERE but they cant because ppl will have no choice but to say they are FIRE like they are on every other hip hop website. Its sohh funny da UNIT is dropping new music with videos DAILY but this site dont want you to know about it. BANKS verse in IM LEAVING IS THE VERSE OF THE YEAR SO FAR AND RIDER PT 2 IS THE SONG OF THE YEAR SO FAR 50 WITH THE V-BOX IS KILLING THE STREET HATERS. But sohh shaking in their boots cause 50 got the hottest thing going i hip hop right now with WWW.THIS50.COM .

March 11, 2008 11:19 AM
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YES INDEED. HEY HOODSTAR HOW YOU LIKE SPIDER LOC? YOU KNOW HE'S MY COUISN RIGHT

g unit sucks please stop sending people from thisis50.com to try to promote gunit.nobody likes them their trouble makers they killed new york hip hop and their hideing in their house. gay unit is over......and their site is a fake hack site with fake photo show pictures and fake rumors that girls make ..ova

G-UNOT KILLA says...

VERY FUNNY BITCH, WHEN I CATCH WHOEVER THIS IS, I'M SNUFFING THE HELL OUTTA YOU BITCH.

March 11, 2008 10:08 AM
ARE YOU GONNA DO IT OR SPIDER LOC.....YOU KNOW WHO THAT IS RIGHT??? PUNK ASS NIGGA

March 11, 2008 10:23 AM


LMAO

Lmao @ the thisis50 cheerleader....... smh go slap yourself fam...

YO THEY SAID IF YOU LOG IN THISIS50.COM THAT IT HAS SOME TYPE OF TRACKING THING THAT THE COPS USE.

Nimrod

I see you read my post about Don Diva's latest issue. You feel as if Don Diva glorifies drugs and snitching and overall negativity in the Black community. I disagree. I found a lot of highly useful information in that issue. The first article showed numerous ways to get free or low cost healthcare! Many brothers and sisters have little or no healthcare so this information is very valuable!! Also, it talked about the state of emergency in the Black community. I was familiar with a lot of these statistics already, but reading them all laid out together is a reinforcement and a wake up call to myself. We have no time to be killing each other, its time to pool our resources and work together for the common cause. My brother Un once told me "you have to pick sense from nonsense". So maybe they have featured some snitches in past issues. I don't condone snitching AT ALL. But they also do have some useful information that the hood can take advantage of. Also, As Is is worth reading too.

The Reason Mobb Deep lost their fans is because, by selling their souls (signing with) 2 G-Unit, they beagn poppin off @ the mouth about everybody, @ least Prodigy was the main one poppin' junk 4 the most part, I only bought 1 cd from them after they sold out, & that was Hav's solo joint "The Kush" that shit is beatin!
I'm still trying 2 figure out as long as they've been in the game making music, they shoulda been the ones signing 50 to their label.

man i ant logging in their then if they gonna use that mayne.

@ DRE cosign, either mobb deep or nas shouldve had their own label poppin...

The Layer says...
Nimrod

I see you read my post about Don Diva's latest issue. You feel as if Don Diva glorifies drugs and snitching and overall negativity in the Black community. I disagree. I found a lot of highly useful information in that issue. The first article showed numerous ways to get free or low cost healthcare! Many brothers and sisters have little or no healthcare so this information is very valuable!! Also, it talked about the state of emergency in the Black community. I was familiar with a lot of these statistics already, but reading them all laid out together is a reinforcement and a wake up call to myself. We have no time to be killing each other, its time to pool our resources and work together for the common cause. My brother Un once told me "you have to pick sense from nonsense". So maybe they have featured some snitches in past issues. I don't condone snitching AT ALL. But they also do have some useful information that the hood can take advantage of. Also, As Is is worth reading too.

March 11, 2008 11:39 AM
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you know what i was thinking the other night, if it wasnt for blacks killing blacks and cops killing blacks what the hell would we die of?
all the natural disasters seems to happens to white peoples it .

G-UNOT KILLA says...


YES INDEED. HEY HOODSTAR HOW YOU LIKE SPIDER LOC? YOU KNOW HE'S MY COUISN RIGHT


March 11, 2008 11:25 AM


I just figured out who G-unot killa reminds me of.


Have any of you seen the classic movie the Five Heartbeats? Do yall remember Duck's 2 dick riding ass cousins talking about there ideas for gimmick ass record labels? G-unot killa constant dick riding reminds me of the scene of the Heatbeats first performance, when the crowd is cheering and the 2 dick riding cousins are in the crowd talking about "that's our cousins"


LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Like they say art imitates real life . . .or is it the other way around?

NOODLES says...
@ DRE cosign, either mobb deep or nas shouldve had their own label poppin...

March 11, 2008 11:46 AM


Like someone in there right mind would buy a CD from Oochie Wally Ent.

brooklyn b says...

you know what i was thinking the other night, if it wasnt for blacks killing blacks and cops killing blacks what the hell would we die of?
all the natural disasters seems to happens to white peoples it .

March 11, 2008 11:46 AM

@ Brooklyn B,

Heart disease, stroke, cancer, diabetes, hypertension, high blood pressure, AIDS, cardio pulmonary diseases

ugly unit sucks

Lmao @ hate callin g unot kila the 6th heartbeat.....

YO THEY SAID IF YOU LOG IN THISIS50.COM THAT IT HAS SOME TYPE OF TRACKING THING THAT THE COPS USE.

hate hate and more hate says...
G-UNOT KILLA says...


YES INDEED. HEY HOODSTAR HOW YOU LIKE SPIDER LOC? YOU KNOW HE'S MY COUISN RIGHT


March 11, 2008 11:25 AM


I just figured out who G-unot killa reminds me of.


Have any of you seen the classic movie the Five Heartbeats? Do yall remember Duck's 2 dick riding ass cousins talking about there ideas for gimmick ass record labels? G-unot killa constant dick riding reminds me of the scene of the Heatbeats first performance, when the crowd is cheering and the 2 dick riding cousins are in the crowd talking about "that's our cousins"


LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Like they say art imitates real life . . .or is it the other way around?

March 11, 2008 11:50 AM
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HOW AM I DICK RIDING MY COUSIN? THATS GAY, I RIDE HIS DICK (NO HOMO) CAUSE THAT MY COUSIN AND IM PROUD OF HIM. WHO YOU PROUD OF? I KNOW ALL YOU SPIDER LOC HATERS IS MAD CAUSE HE AINT YOUR COUSIN AND YOU ALL CANT GET ANY HOMIE LOVE AKA THUG LUVIN' FROM THE BIG HOMIE SPIDER LOC.
AND DID I MENTION HE'S MY COUSIN?

@Ereal

50 made a bad move by signing mobb deep and mop.

he had the right idea by signing fresh new talent.

look at how he got that south money by puttin on young buck.

look at how he set up shop and got that west coast money by raping gayme like jimmy henchman is.

50 fucked the momentum up by wasting time with washed up and wack rappers like mobb deep,mop,spider crab,and that kid from arizona(I forgot his name).

not saying that its completely over yet but the g unit run couldve been a lil bit more longer if fifty focused on signing talent instead of trying to sure up street cred by signing old artist and people who have NO talent...

Plus his music is getting predictable,he had the right idea when he went left field with his second album the massacre...

If your gonna talk about the same thing at least do it in a creative way or make sure the beats and ryhmes is tight...

But you keep raving about the units new music so maybe I'll check it out.

hate hate and more hate says...
NOODLES says...
@ DRE cosign, either mobb deep or nas shouldve had their own label poppin...

March 11, 2008 11:46 AM


Like someone in there right mind would buy a CD from Oochie Wally Ent.

March 11, 2008 11:52 AM

not saying I would, but U never know.

I thought Nas' label was gonna be called Ill Will?

Lmao @ hate callin g unot kila the 6th heartbeat.....

Dre Guevara says...
brooklyn b says...

you know what i was thinking the other night, if it wasnt for blacks killing blacks and cops killing blacks what the hell would we die of?
all the natural disasters seems to happens to white peoples it .

March 11, 2008 11:46 AM

@ Brooklyn B,

Heart disease, stroke, cancer, diabetes, hypertension, high blood pressure, AIDS, cardio pulmonary diseases

March 11, 2008 11:52 AM
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Yeah diseases, but a lotta that gotta do with what u eat
and aids........thats a whole nother story
we'll if we and the cops dont kill us then disease will, lol

Dre

Took the words right out of my mouth. Also Katrina, abortions, etc. I respect your posts though Brooklyn. You too Dre

YO THEY SAID IF YOU LOG IN THISIS50.COM THAT IT HAS SOME TYPE OF TRACKING c COOKIE THING THAT THE COPS USE TO TRACK PEOPLE ONLINE

Nas' label is Ill Will Records and I believe he has a new one called The Jones Experience.

Good mawnin.
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Ey, I'm really laughin at this GUNOT KILLA dude...but not so much at him as I am laughin at his stan.
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He said:
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YES INDEED. HEY HOODSTAR HOW YOU LIKE SPIDER LOC? YOU KNOW HE'S MY COUISN RIGHT


March 11, 2008 11:25 AM
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Ya'll wild.
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Anyway, man...I don't know...I'm just real bored with this thing lately. Somebody, please tell me it's just me. Or are we on the same circle of gibberish in this blog. It's like a bunch of zombies sayin the same thing they been sayin the whole time, over and over.
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But ey, what does a $5500 prostitute even look like?

Dre Guevara says...
hate hate and more hate says...
NOODLES says...
@ DRE cosign, either mobb deep or nas shouldve had their own label poppin...

March 11, 2008 11:46 AM


Like someone in there right mind would buy a CD from Oochie Wally Ent.

March 11, 2008 11:52 AM

not saying I would, but U never know.

I thought Nas' label was gonna be called Ill Will?

March 11, 2008 11:57 AM


Ill Will, Oochie Wally . . . same difference

NOODLES says...
Lmao @ hate callin g unot kila the 6th heartbeat.....

March 11, 2008 11:54 AM


"Nights like this....I wish, that raindrops would....Fa-a-a-a-all,

NIGHTS LIKE THIS.... I WISH, THAT RAINDROPS WOULD....
FA-A-A-A-ALL"

PZ says...


But ey, what does a $5500 prostitute even look like?


March 11, 2008 12:04 PM


Damn sure don't look like your ugly ass wife.


You have to have an ass, good looks, big breastesssssss, nice shape, all your teeth, personality, shaved legs & back - all the thing your wife doesn't have

HATE HATE AND MORE HATE SAYS...

G-UNOT KILLA says...

YES INDEED. HEY HOODSTAR HOW YOU LIKE SPIDER LOC? YOU KNOW HE'S MY COUISN RIGHT

March 11, 2008 11:25 AM I

just figured out who G-unot killa reminds me of.Have any of you seen the classic movie the Five Heartbeats? Do yall remember Duck's 2 dick riding ass cousins talking about there ideas for gimmick ass record labels? G-unot killa constant dick riding reminds me of the scene of the Heatbeats first performance, when the crowd is cheering and the 2 dick riding cousins are in the crowd talking about "that's our cousins"

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Like they say art imitates real life . . .or is it the other way around?
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I don't think anybody would be caught dead at a spider loc show but his family,LoL!

The Layer says...
Dre

Took the words right out of my mouth. Also Katrina, abortions, etc. I respect your posts though Brooklyn. You too Dre

March 11, 2008 11:59 AM
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nah, it was just a thought not nothing deep, but katrina? or the broke levees thats why i didnt put that in consideration, but it started when i was looking at the news and everytime its a natural disaster like tornados and shit brush fires and shit u dont here that shit hitting the hood, now even if u say katrina cool, but if i said black people dont be on that serial killer shit and some one name 2 black people , eh, you know what i mean, numbers wise is what im really saying.

@ PZ, whats good fam, what the toilet paper stash lookin like b?

PZ says...
Good mawnin.
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Ey, I'm really laughin at this GUNOT KILLA dude...but not so much at him as I am laughin at his stan.
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He said:
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YES INDEED. HEY HOODSTAR HOW YOU LIKE SPIDER LOC? YOU KNOW HE'S MY COUISN RIGHT


March 11, 2008 11:25 AM
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Ya'll wild.
-
Anyway, man...I don't know...I'm just real bored with this thing lately. Somebody, please tell me it's just me. Or are we on the same circle of gibberish in this blog. It's like a bunch of zombies sayin the same thing they been sayin the whole time, over and over.
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But ey, what does a $5500 prostitute even look like?

March 11, 2008 12:04 PM

@ PZ,

"Nights like this....I wish, that raindrops would....Fa-a-a-a-all,

NIGHTS LIKE THIS.... I WISH, THAT RAINDROPS WOULD....
FA-A-A-A-ALL"

PZ says...
But ey, what does a $5500 prostitute even look like?
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she look like a bitch you can fuck for free, lol

PZ says...


Anyway, man...I don't know...I'm just real bored with this thing lately. Somebody, please tell me it's just me. Or are we on the same circle of gibberish in this blog. It's like a bunch of zombies sayin the same thing they been sayin the whole time, over and over.


March 11, 2008 12:04 PM


PZ is right, let spend the rest of the day talking about the Bible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PZ says...
But ey, what does a $5500 prostitute even look like?

March 11, 2008 12:04 PM

G-Unot Killa's Moms

Dre Guevara says...
brooklyn b says...

you know what i was thinking the other night, if it wasnt for blacks killing blacks and cops killing blacks what the hell would we die of?
all the natural disasters seems to happens to white peoples it .

March 11, 2008 11:46 AM

@ Brooklyn B,

Heart disease, stroke, cancer, diabetes, hypertension, high blood pressure, AIDS, cardio pulmonary diseases

March 11, 2008 11:52 AM

Heart disease,stroke,diabetes,hypertension, high blood pressure,and cardio pulmonary diseases is food shit. Aids is sex shit and you cant stop yourself from getting cancer. Anything that gives you cancer would be more likely to be in a majority-black neighborhood, so we more at risk for that too. Im tellin yall niggas, the average black person in america still lives 5 or 10 years less than the average white person. Thats if you make it too old age, and dont get locked up or murdered randomly.

@ agnostic and nimrod


I see yall niggas talkin bout snoop. Im from la so i been heard shit CONTRARY to his "og" status, to say da least, ya dig. Yall on point with it today, RAPPERS from LA are usually not real g's. But they still more gangsta than the east coast's "fake gangsta" rappers. And Jerry Heller musta did something right, cause he spread the cancer of LA's hoods worldwide. Niggas is bangin in cities and states I didnt even know black people lived in. I advise every negro with consciousness to get rich and buy alot of guns(if you live in the hood) because the hood is goin back to some Reagan type shit.

The Answer To PZ's Question says...
PZ says...
But ey, what does a $5500 prostitute even look like?

March 11, 2008 12:04 PM

G-Unot Killa's Moms

March 11, 2008 12:13 PM
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HEY NIGGA DATS MY MOM YOUR TALKING ABOUT, AND BESIDES SHE DONT CHARGE NO 5500 NIGGA. AND FOR THAT STAN GET OFF MY DICK NIGGA BEFORE I GIVE YOU SOME THUG LUVIN' WHEN I CATCH YOU

Elliot Spitzer AKA IT AIN'T TRICKIN IF YOU GOT IT says...
PZ says...


But ey, what does a $5500 prostitute even look like?


March 11, 2008 12:04 PM


Damn sure don't look like your ugly ass wife.


You have to have an ass, good looks, big breastesssssss, nice shape, all your teeth, personality, shaved legs & back - all the thing your wife doesn't have

March 11, 2008 12:07 PM


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And niggas call me a hater!!! That right there was brutal!!!


LAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

EVERYBODY DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THIS FAKE AS G-UNOT KILLA HE ON SOME FATAL ATTRACTION SHIT AND WANNA BE ME SO HE TRIES TO DICKRIDE ME SO MUCH. DON'T PAY ATTENTION

Gentrification, poverty, incarceration, yeah were under attack! Time for a Black United Front! Www.myspace.com/layerissolidarity

a g n o s t i c says...
HATE HATE AND MORE HATE SAYS...

G-UNOT KILLA says...

YES INDEED. HEY HOODSTAR HOW YOU LIKE SPIDER LOC? YOU KNOW HE'S MY COUISN RIGHT

March 11, 2008 11:25 AM I

just figured out who G-unot killa reminds me of.Have any of you seen the classic movie the Five Heartbeats? Do yall remember Duck's 2 dick riding ass cousins talking about there ideas for gimmick ass record labels? G-unot killa constant dick riding reminds me of the scene of the Heatbeats first performance, when the crowd is cheering and the 2 dick riding cousins are in the crowd talking about "that's our cousins"

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Like they say art imitates real life . . .or is it the other way around?
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I don't think anybody would be caught dead at a spider loc show but his family,LoL!
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YOUR A DUMB NIGGA EVERYONE WANNA BE AT A SPIDER LOC SHOW CAUSE AINT NO SHOW LIKE A SPIDER LOC SHOW CAUSE A SPIDER LOC SHOW DONT STOPPPPPPPP. AND SO WHAT IF ONLY FAMILY THERE WE GOT A BIG ASS FAMILY. WE ALL GO TO THIS PARADE IN SAN FRAN AND MARCH TOGETHER
THE GUYS ARE SO FRIENDLY AND LOVE SPIDER LOC AND HIS JAIL HOUSE ANTICS.
ALL BEEF ASIDE BUT HOW MANY OF YOU HOOD NIGGAZ IM TALKING TO MY LOCKED UP AINT SCARED TO GO THREW THE REVOLVING DOOR NIGGAS EVER BEEN IN A SOAPY, SLIPPERY 10 MAN NO HOLDS BAR SHOWER BRAWL (NO HOMO)?
WHATS YOUR METHODS OF WINNING?

brooklyn b says.......nah, it was just a thought not nothing deep, but katrina? or the broke levees thats why i didnt put that in consideration, but it started when i was looking at the news and everytime its a natural disaster like tornados and shit brush fires and shit u dont here that shit hitting the hood, now even if u say katrina cool, but if i said black people dont be on that serial killer shit and some one name 2 black people , eh, you know what i mean, numbers wise is what im really saying.

March 11, 2008 12:08 PM


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The brush fires didnt hit the hood cause the hood aint around the forests. In LA all the richest people live in the wilderness to escape us savage blacks and latinos, lol. So god pays em back with forest fires and landslides. But come to south central, shiiiiit, you'd think there was brush fires out this muthafucka. There's buildings niggas aint fixed since those riots. And there are black serial killers my nigga, they called gangmembers, lol. I know niggas in the hood who bust on niggas to relieve boredom, thats a psychopath in white america.

gunot stan says.........YOUR A DUMB NIGGA EVERYONE WANNA BE AT A SPIDER LOC SHOW CAUSE AINT NO SHOW LIKE A SPIDER LOC SHOW CAUSE A SPIDER LOC SHOW DONT STOPPPPPPPP. AND SO WHAT IF ONLY FAMILY THERE WE GOT A BIG ASS FAMILY. WE ALL GO TO THIS PARADE IN SAN FRAN AND MARCH TOGETHER

March 11, 2008 12:20 PM

YOUR A DUMB NIGGA EVERYONE WANNA BE AT A SPIDER LOC SHOW CAUSE AINT NO SHOW LIKE A SPIDER LOC SHOW CAUSE A SPIDER LOC SHOW DONT STOPPPPPPPP. AND SO WHAT IF ONLY FAMILY THERE WE GOT A BIG ASS FAMILY. WE ALL GO TO THIS PARADE IN SAN FRAN AND MARCH TOGETHER
THE GUYS ARE SO FRIENDLY AND LOVE SPIDER LOC AND HIS JAIL HOUSE ANTICS.
ALL BEEF ASIDE BUT HOW MANY OF YOU HOOD NIGGAZ IM TALKING TO MY LOCKED UP AINT SCARED TO GO THREW THE REVOLVING DOOR NIGGAS EVER BEEN IN A SOAPY, SLIPPERY 10 MAN NO HOLDS BAR SHOWER BRAWL (NO HOMO)?
WHATS YOUR METHODS OF WINNING?
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OBVIOUSLY AN OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE ASS GAY STAN LOL I CAN'T HELP IT I GOT FANS GO AHEAD HOMIE DO YOU LOL LOL LOL LOL YA'LL NIGGAZ DON'T GOT NIGGAZ STANIN YA'LL ON HERE LIKE ME. U KNOW WHY?? BECAUSE I SPIT THAT G-UNIT CRIP TRUTH LOL THIS NIGGA GOT ISSUES HE CAN'T STOP STANNIN I'M WORKING ON SOMETHING TO DRAW THE REAL FROM THE FAKE THOUGH. "" WHENEVER YOU SEE ** ITS ME

G-UNOT KILLA says...

OBVIOUSLY AN OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE ASS GAY STAN LOL I CAN'T HELP IT I GOT FANS GO AHEAD HOMIE DO YOU LOL LOL LOL LOL YA'LL NIGGAZ DON'T GOT NIGGAZ STANIN YA'LL ON HERE LIKE ME. U KNOW WHY?? BECAUSE I SPIT THAT G-UNIT CRIP TRUTH LOL THIS NIGGA GOT ISSUES HE CAN'T STOP STANNIN I'M WORKING ON SOMETHING TO DRAW THE REAL FROM THE FAKE THOUGH. "" WHENEVER YOU SEE ** ITS ME

March 11, 2008 12:26 PM

Brooklyn B says...
The Layer says...
Dre

Took the words right out of my mouth. Also Katrina, abortions, etc. I respect your posts though Brooklyn. You too Dre

March 11, 2008 11:59 AM
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nah, it was just a thought not nothing deep, but katrina? or the broke levees thats why i didnt put that in consideration, but it started when i was looking at the news and everytime its a natural disaster like tornados and shit brush fires and shit u dont here that shit hitting the hood, now even if u say katrina cool, but if i said black people dont be on that serial killer shit and some one name 2 black people , eh, you know what i mean, numbers wise is what im really saying.

March 11, 2008 12:08 PM

@ Brooklyn B.

2 things U'll never see in the hood...

brush fires & serial killers,

g unit stan says........OBVIOUSLY AN OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE ASS GAY STAN LOL I CAN'T HELP IT I GOT FANS GO AHEAD HOMIE DO YOU LOL LOL LOL LOL YA'LL NIGGAZ DON'T GOT NIGGAZ STANIN YA'LL ON HERE LIKE ME. U KNOW WHY?? BECAUSE I SPIT THAT G-UNIT CRIP TRUTH LOL THIS NIGGA GOT ISSUES HE CAN'T STOP STANNIN I'M WORKING ON SOMETHING TO DRAW THE REAL FROM THE FAKE THOUGH. "" WHENEVER YOU SEE ** ITS ME

March 11, 2008 12:26 PM

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G unit stan, you troll ass lame nigga. You aint from watts, you here until midnight posting your homo mixtapes and big uppin the g unit crips. And the g unit crips are old ass niggas from the 70's who aint made a move since the 90's that 50 uses to protect himself in LA because he shouted out hoover, like hoover aint one of the most hated hoods out here.

@ dre guevara


The brush fires didnt hit the hood cause the hood aint around the forests. In LA all the richest people live in the wilderness to escape us savage blacks and latinos, lol. So god pays em back with forest fires and landslides. But come to south central, shiiiiit, you'd think there was brush fires out this muthafucka. There's buildings niggas aint fixed since those riots. And there are black serial killers my nigga, they called gangmembers, lol. I know niggas in the hood who clap niggas to relieve boredom, thats a psychopath in white america.


people go to spider loc's shows by accident says...


March 11, 2008 12:25 PM


LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


I can imagine the people getting mad at the show and saying, "NIgga, I thought you said this was a Tone Loc show"

I DONT SEE NAS OR MOBB DEEP AS SELL-OUTS BECAUSE OF WHO THEY SIGN TO. THIS IS A BUISNESS PEOPLE. BUISNESS PERIOD.
http://www.myspace.com/jdubbthayounghectic


The Layer says...
Gentrification, poverty, incarceration, yeah were under attack! Time for a Black United Front! Www.myspace.com/layerissolidarity

March 11, 2008 12:18 PM


What are you talking about niggas be frontin everyday. Just look at the rap game

black wall street says...
G unit stan, you troll ass lame nigga. You aint from watts, you here until midnight posting your homo mixtapes and big uppin the g unit crips. And the g unit crips are old ass niggas from the 70's who aint made a move since the 90's that 50 uses to protect himself in LA because he shouted out hoover, like hoover aint one of the most hated hoods out here.
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THIS SHIT IS TOO FUNNY JUST WORRY ABOUT TELLING GAYME NOT TO DROP THE SOAP LMAO. HIS ASS HOLE SHOULD BE GOOD AND SORE ABOUT NOW. YAYO DID ALMOST 2 YRS AND GAYME IS ALREADY CRYING ABOUT THE BING AFTER 8 DAYZ LMAO. TELL HIS STARFACE, STRIPPING, CHANGE OF HEART BEGGING HIS EX GIRLFRIEND BACK HAVING ASS BROTHER BIG FACE AKA GET MY ASS KNOCKED OUT INFRONT OF SPIDER LOC LOL TO SUCK A FAT DICK TOO. P.S. NAME ME 1 ARTIST FROM BLACKWALL STREET?!?!?!?! THATS FUNNY CAUSE YOU CAN'T EITHER DJ SKEE IS THE ONLY NIGGA REPUTABLE NIGGA FROM YOUR CAMP LOL. BLACKWALL STREET IS FINISHED THATS JUST SOMETHING GAYME STARTED TO GET MORE PUBLISHING POINTS YOU DUMB NIGGA AND 50 BOUGHT HIS WHOLE CREW WHIPS WITH THE 25% INTAKE HE GETS ON ALL GAYMES CD SALES DUMB ASS LOL SO GET YA WEIGHT UP YOU DUMB BITCH AND GET A DECENT ARTIST LOL

G-UNOT KILLA/THE REAL ONE says...

HEY NIGGA DATS MY MOM YOUR TALKING ABOUT, AND BESIDES SHE DONT CHARGE NO 5500 NIGGA. AND FOR THAT STAN GET OFF MY DICK NIGGA BEFORE I GIVE YOU SOME THUG LUVIN' WHEN I CATCH YOU

March 11, 2008 12:16 PM


I just bet you will, you pillow bitin' power bottom!

@ BLACKWALL STREET
HOW CAN YOU BACK BWS WHEN HE GETS SONNED FOR 25% OF HIS CD SALES FOR THE NEXT 3 ALBUMS??? NAME 1 BLACKWALL STREET RAPPER??? PLEASE ANYBODY HELP THIS DUMB BITCH NAME 1 BWS ARTIST?

kush city says...
@ dre guevara

The brush fires didnt hit the hood cause the hood aint around the forests. In LA all the richest people live in the wilderness to escape us savage blacks and latinos, lol. So god pays em back with forest fires and landslides. But come to south central, shiiiiit, you'd think there was brush fires out this muthafucka. There's buildings niggas aint fixed since those riots. And there are black serial killers my nigga, they called gangmembers, lol. I know niggas in the hood who clap niggas to relieve boredom, thats a psychopath in white america.


March 11, 2008 12:32 PM

yes it is.

G-UNOT KILLA/THE REAL ONE says...

HEY NIGGA DATS MY MOM YOUR TALKING ABOUT, AND BESIDES SHE DONT CHARGE NO 5500 NIGGA. AND FOR THAT STAN GET OFF MY DICK NIGGA BEFORE I GIVE YOU SOME THUG LUVIN' WHEN I CATCH YOU

March 11, 2008 12:16 PM


I just bet you will, you pillow bitin' power bottom!
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LOL @ MY STAN TAKING HEAT, NIGGA I TOLD YOU THIS G-UNIT CRIP SHIT IS HARD. NOW YOU BRANDED AS A FAIRY LOL DUMB ASS FATAL ATTRACTION NIGGA! LOL LOL GOOD EVERYBODY KEEP GETTING ON MY STAN DO MY JOB FOR ME LOL YOU DUMB NIGGA WORK FOR ME ANYWAY DUMB BITCHES KILL MY STAN LMAO

@Nimrod
There wasnt anything anywhere NEAR the backlash that Mobb caught from signin with GUnit.
I havent seen anyone on here like FUCK NAS, I AINT FUCKIN WIT NAS NO MORE CAUSE HE SIGNED WIT JAY. I havent seen anyone say that. Ive seen people say that about Mobb.

Plus that "diss" was a one liner that he was actually dissing someone else, I think it was Jada. He said "Ill do yo lil ass like Jay did Mobb Deep" and the fact is, Jay murked them, its called a refrence, it wasnt aimed twords them, Some of 50s hottest shit was over Mobb beats, he fucked with them cause they're from queens.

G-UNOT KILLA says...
@ BLACKWALL STREET
HOW CAN YOU BACK BWS WHEN HE GETS SONNED FOR 25% OF HIS CD SALES FOR THE NEXT 3 ALBUMS??? NAME 1 BLACKWALL STREET RAPPER??? PLEASE ANYBODY HELP THIS DUMB BITCH NAME 1 BWS ARTIST?

March 11, 2008 12:47 PM

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I guess you live too far out in the boonies to get XXL, where clyde carson was listed number 1 for up and coming west coast rappers. Clyde carson is signed to black wall street through capitol records. Who the fuck is g unit puttin out?? Spider loc, NOBODY in la fucks with that fake ass nigga. Private school nigga stole his older brothers life and calls it his, he sounds worse than game. Plus he looks like a shermhead who smokes black and milds dipped in bleach. Plus mase is a gay preacher, plus mop makes songs with fat joe now, plus banks is too doped up to spit fire, yayo is trash and pushin 55 years old, buck should get a