Stop the speculation, stop the speculation.
If the Bush Administration has established a bill that prohibits blacks from voting 23 years from now, we will never know because a) Republicans do everything under the table and b) We will NEVER see the documentation. EVER. So how Nas has come to this, I have no idea. And I'm not saying that Nas' claims are completely false, because only God knows what America's corrupt government does behind closed doors. Maybe someone tipped him off?
But what I think Nas is referring to is the Voting Rights Act:
"President [Lyndon] Johnson signed the resulting legislation into law on August 6, 1965. Section 2 of the Act, which closely followed the language of the 15th amendment, applied a nationwide prohibition against the denial or abridgment of the right to vote on the literacy tests on a nationwide basis (aka black people). Among its other provisions, the Act contained special enforcement provisions targeted at those areas of the country where Congress believed the potential for discrimination to be the greatest (aka the South).
"Congress renewed in 1982 the special provisions of the Act, triggered by coverage under Section 4 for twenty-five years."
And the Devil renewed the Act in 2006. It expires again in 2031-- 23 years from now. My only question is why they're keeping a "25-year" extension on the Act instead of a PERMANENT one.
Other than that, Nas--- please don't cause alarm like this. Unless he knows something we don't? He's foreseen the rise of what he calls "this thing" -- the Republican Party-- who overthrows all "democracy" in America, which explains why they won't renew the Act when it expires in 23 years. That's my only guess... unless he oversaturated his brain with too many history books and got the story f*cked up. I think so.
Come on, Nas.
But peep the video below. The way Kelis mentioned John Lennon's song in the clip above, it's as if she was suggesting that he was trying to be another Bill O'Reilly or Don Imus. And while I understand Lennon's logic behind the whole thing, 1972 was just WAYYYYY to friggin early for a song like this. Way too early. In '72, most racists didn't even know that "n*gger's" real meaning is "ignorant." And if the word "n*gger" will cause a black man to catch a case in '08, then I'm for damn sure that Lennon was wrong when he claimed in this video that this word's (vulgar) meaning had changed. Fresh out of the '60s? I doubt it. Highly doubt it.
Kelis damn. Did you even hear the song for yourself? I bet someone just told her about it. Hearing it, it's clear that Lennon wasn't trying to be malicious, although he could've chosen a better word, for crying out loud.
I heard that Lennon song ages ago, Kelis is a smart girl and is influenced by a lot of music, i think this should not be her first time hearing it.
I think Nas better have a good theme for the songs on his Nigger album and hope he is not trying to sell album based on shock value.
This better not be Reckless ass posting this shit.. WTF do that nigga know bout Politics. This nigga hate on everything that isn't Jay-Z, ol Jay-Z nuts hangin ass nigga
Whoever wrote this blog, must go back to school. Anyway ignorant is a bliss.
Sorry I meant IGNORANCE
1st of she was usin the TITLE as a steppin stone if he can write\perform a song of that title why cant NAS DO IT 2 but differently
the power of this word is amazing
http://www.myspace.com/jdubbthayounghectic
what the hell is nas talking about?
This article is what Nas was talking about. In regards to kelis, its clear that she was using lennon as 1) backup to Nas' definition of the word. She doe say and its still true today. 2) as an attempt to difusse the controversy and get people to accept the concept that her husband is using as something that has been done in the past by a legend. Now i know you and i both saw the same clip above, but how you deduce a onesided and narrow observation leads me to just call you ignorant, just as Nas would himself, and yes inorant = n
ok let me sum some things down for some people ok fist off.their isent any bill from prez bush saying that blacks cant vote in 23 years. i think nas is going too to many far left web sites. "far left meaning the people who think bush took down the towers insted of osama. witch is so untrue. osama made tapes saying he was ploting to do that .dont get me wrong bush is a fucked up dude but bush dident knock down the towers.he dident save the people in new orleans and he made taxes high for poor people hes fucked up for that.but he dident knock down the towers. and the reason why we are at war is because you have terroist coming too the usa trying to kill all of us. you can even find you tube videos of terroist saying that and cutting off our armys heads on tape.their sending people over here to kill us theirs millions of them and bush is trying to stop that. theirs nothing wrong with that.as for new orleans yea he should of helped them. i mean come on people have to stop reading stupid things crazy things people put on sites i red one saying bush was a ufo lol .as for the nigger album.i think nas can say more than he can handel.and that song lennon had wasent ment to be racist. nigger just ment dumb people back in those days.and if you look it up lennon did protest with the black panthers and was among a lot of white people that dident like the idea of blacks being treated unfair. and some body killed lennon cause of that..also kelis was talking to the cnn reporter like if the reporter had something too do with all slavery. just cause a person is white doesnt mean you can talk to them like if theyt had something to do with slavery.blacks put blacks in slavery thousands of years ago, whites put blacks in slavey hundeads of years ago. now whos rite and whos wrong???try watching the history cannel or the science channel, insted of some radom website that says dumb shitt.its crazy how stupid people infect our brains.and nas should stop trying to act like malcom x . i rember when nas did that song with jadakiss on the first jadakiss album and the song was called "show discipline" were nas sang the hook saying " kill ur mom, "kill your seed" kill your dad. come on man these people are so dirt.
and also insted of nas wearing a t shirt. that says nigger or a album that says nigger wont he ralley up some people and go too them small racist towns in the south and make them stop treating blacks unfair.thats the only way it can be done.wearing t shirts is doing nothing but wearing a t shirt. what im saying is stop talking and do.and those 2 girls that where with nas and kelis id like to bend them over bother backwards and do my thing for 8 hours straight .haa
Can y'all please listen to the album first before you start throwing tantrums? Y'all act like you dont say nigger damn near everyday...lol! All of a sudden the word nigger is shocking cause you saw i on CNN? Stop acting ignorant and being niggers....listen to the album first then pass judegemtn. And Nas is ahead of his time...y'all are stuck listening to booty shaking and trapping crap. Nas is talking about relevant sh*t that affects us.
You can't stop the illmatic street prophet.
I know youve been waiting for me,and i also see the sibliminal shots at me and my little team(u know who u are) the last two blogs...it just makes me so damn happy that we get on your nerves and have so much influence over your actions..question? Why do bloggers sound like flunkys in some rappers entourage thinkin that they gonna get on if they ride or die with the rapper??? anyway back to the nas topic that we started on the bronx ETHUGGIN on fat joe blog....i came late yesterday and wanted to make a comment but was pleasantly suprized that my points saturated the last blog via people who think like me in some ways...and these two or three people,using there common sense they basically told u what the blogger wont tell u,which is...1.this album will not come without some sort of censorship of the title or the album,point blank period...2.NAS is a lil "special"and sometimes his intentions are good,but he's NOT built like that...and we all know that people who have good intentions and fuck up cause as much damage as people who have bad intentions...which is why i reject his publicity stuntin with the N word with no solid arguements that you can spit at these crackers when they come for you,you cant come half steppin like u did with hiphop is dead,this is a totally different ball game dude...you have to be well versed and ready to defend the stance u take,like the real black leaders of the past and present are...you cant just mumble about some draconian Law that the blogger(more on that racist later)is trying use as some sort of excuse for u to use the n word on your album cover...you have to be well versed and know what the hell your talkin about when your defending your position or nas is gonna get clowned like cam did on cnn...them crackers and black activist is gonna eat nas alive bruh,LOL....he is not built for this...trust me... ANd i hate to agree with al sharpton but i made a comment the other about how they bleep out any reference to jews in rap records even if its positive,and i started to think*well damn,we should respect ourselves like that too*and what do these jews really think about us calling each other niggas when they dont even allow us to say the word Jew....
Nas is whylin, he needs to stop with this bullshit, he's talkin 'bout ignorance but on the real he's been a real ignorant.
The fucked up part is that what Nas is saying is true. If they really wanted blacks to vote they would make it a permanent amendment instead of an extension of rights act. How you gonna use that title but be wrong. Nas did not lose.
it's a fact that it's an act that makes it fucked up. who cares if they may renew it when times up.
A MONKEY FOR A BLOG AUTHOR:
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* This is hilarious! First, you didn't care about Nas & Kelis' (aka Mr & Mrs Coon) episode at the Grammys (wrote an article on Fat Joe instead).
* Then you come out defending him as a genius yesterday...
* And this morning you're calling him ignorant (like most of US were yesterday!)
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So much for being "one of the last real hip hop journalists in the game." DO YOUR HOMEWORK, GET AN OPINION, AND STICK WITH IT!
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But regarding the real fraud: Nas. A whole bunch of kats did a good job of airing Mr. Nasir Jones out on here yesterday - still many stood strong by they manz side, calling him a genius, artist, and what have you.
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THE MORE NAS IS ALLOWED TO SPEAK, THE MORE HE IS BODYING HIMSELF. Repeat, Nasty-Nas is a great, great lyricist in Hip Hop history... but this personna of a intellectual, social activist aint foolin nobody.
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BASED ON THAT ALONE, I TAKE EVEN GREATER OFFENSE ABOUT WHAT HE'S DOING WITH THE "NIGGER" ALBUM TITLE. He aint gonna enlighten sh*t! Instead, he's going to disregard and make light what is a very serious matter in the history of the Black Culture.
PEOPLE REMEMBER ONE THING ABOUT THIS: JOHN LENNON IS FROM ENGLAND AND TO THEM THE WORD DIDN'T MEAN THE SAME THING AS IT DID TO WHITE AMERICA. YOU SEE HE SAID "IGNORANT" AND WHAT NAS IS DOING IS EXPLOITING ALL YOUR IGNORANCE ABOUT THE SUBJECT! NAS IS FUCKING A SMART! HE'S ALSO PLAYING ALL YOU WHITE PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD MEANS. IF HE NAMED HIS ALBUM "IGNORANT" NO ONE WOULD SAY SHIT BUT BECAUSE HE NAMES HIS ALBUM "NIGGER" YOU LOOK DOWN ON IT BECAUSE YOU STILL THINK IT MEANS "BLACK MAN"
@ Protect Your Cup
First of all lets not act like the U.S. government has been without it's share of under handed dirt, What do you mean Bush didn't have anything to do with the knocking down of the towers? Have you ever done the investigation? Have you ever heard of Operation North Woods? It was a government operation planned by the government in the 1960' s designed to scare the American people into going to War with and invading Cuba to overthrow Castro and the communist regime.In the plans they wanted to stage false flag operations like bomb federal buildings, and fly unmanned planes into buildings and say that there were college students onboard going on spring break vacation. How about Kennedy being Killed and the undisclosed documentation being sealed for 75 years after the Warren commission comes to there conclusion that one man who was a average shot at best pulled off an assasination that not even the best FBI sharp Shooters could pull off when tested, Oh yeah than he ran 8 floors downstairs was not out of breathe as seen by witnesses walking and went to the movies. How did they know he was in the movies? Why are all would be assassins of presidents known by three words (ie. John Wilks Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinkley Junior.) These are not mistakes, you made the mistake of believing that you live in a system of control. Your controlled everyday, it's getting ready to snow everybody runs out to the supermarket to buy shit they don't need; Yellow alert day, Red Alert day, Green Alert day ironically after bush was re-elected these high and low alert days have stopped hmmm? You see your a lamb and you are being hearded into any fenced in gate they lead you to, if you think for a minute that they have no plans on creating a larger populace of slaves for cheap labor your a nut or a white rich republican who doesn't give a fuck anyway but I do my history studies and from where things are going now it's count down to fascism. Wake the fuck up.
THIS IS WHAT "FLY-BY-NIGHT" MICROWAVE-COOKED REVOLUTIONISTS DO...
...get some face time from talkin out they ass, quoting the latest conspiracy theory which they have no clue about.
Yes, it is foul how the federal government enacts laws for specified periods of time. But notice that they do this with MANY OTHER LAWS. Even the Patriot Act has a time limit; abortion laws; tax cuts; a whole slew of other laws. Part of the reason would be that in the event the situation changes in the future, the government will have the leeway to adjust it. (For instance:
1) What happens if the literacy rate is no longer an issue; that it's equal among all races? (I pray that happens)
2) What happens if the country DOES want to keep it in effect to prevent illegal aliens from being coaxed by either political party to vote for them when they really are ill-equipped? (I lived in Florida during the 2000 elections and there were many accusations of that happening - by the DEMOCRATS!)
HOWDAF#CK is Nas gonna talk about a conspiracy 23 years down the road!!!???!!! So this fool got hookups with the CIA, the Illuminati, and sh*T!!!???
NIGGER, SIT YA ASS DOWN!!!
DAMN IM UP EARLY AS A BITCH BUT BACK 2 THE SUBJECT MAYBE NAS DOES KNOW SOMETHING WE DON'T OR MAYBE HE JUST IS CAUSING SOME PUBLICITY BUT I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS SUSPECT WITH THE WHOLE VOTING RIGHTS PROCESS INVOLVING AFRICAN AMERICANS ANYWAY I MEAN IF U LOOK AT SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS AND THE REQUIREMENTS 2 VOTE IT STILL SOMEWHAT LIMITS THE RIGHTS OF SOME BLACK FOLKS
Let's not forget that Republicans kept Black people from voting in Florida circa 2004.
NAS WORSHIPERS: YOUR GIVING HIM TOO MUCH CREDIT...
Some people are still poppin off with comments like "Nas is a genius; this is what he wanted to happen." N-WORD PLEASE!!! Let nobody give him credit for having "created" intelligent discussion on these issues like this is what he "planned" and "had in mind" all along. Daayum! Celebrity worship has reached new heights. It's like saying Britney Spears and Amy Whinehouse purposely planned their f#ck-ups to bring new awareness to the effects of substance abuse.
Nas has yet to say one intelligent word on the purpose of the title of his new cd. Instead, he's muttered dumb sh*t like "We all 'Niggers' - Blacks, Whites, Latinos..." (If anyone has that clip, hook me up please.)
Credit would mean that he has been doing the media circuit, meeting and discussing the matter with historians and local community leaders, and CLEARLY EXPLAINING what he is doing. It would mean that he would have some sensible, viable ideas on a solution and an improvement.
WHAT I WISH ABOVE MANY THINGS RIGHT NOW IS TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS MR. JONES MYSELF! Whether in person or on an online forum. I ain't gonna cuss him out from the get-go or nuffin. I just want to have him explain himself and see how much "knowledge" the brother really got!
There's so much one can do. But since we've seen absolutely nothing, there's no need to give dude "credit" for anything remotely positive that has come out of this.
I'mma walk outside and scream the word "FAGGOT" throughout the streets of Brooklyn. Then when people read about it and discuss it on blogs, y'all can give me credit for being a genius and having made people "deal with the word."
The point for some of you who didn't get it was that their shouldn't be a issue with this every 25 years, the notion that people need to get their right to vote constantly re-newed when no other race in america does is a criminal act within itself and if this is being pointed out how has Nas lost for educating the people? It's a lot of donkies in hear straight fucking haters. Wake the fuck up, if a man trying to drop knowledge and create awareness why would you hate on him when no one else is. No one is saying anything about all the rappers talking bout selling Coke or killing people but Nas lost fo reducating them, Check your motives. I'd rather my son hear the truth than run around thinking that selling drugs and killing people is without it's consequences.
Che Guevarra says...
Let's not forget that Republicans kept Black people from voting in Florida circa 2004
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COSIGN
@big sun its sounds lke you read too many far left web sites you no the ones where it says paris hilton is a ufo from the plant comack lol. if you really really thing all those things you need zolft.cause the things you just typed are things you read from crazy sites that make up crazy things. when those towers where getting knocked down people on that plane where calling their familys cells phones some dident answer messages where left on that phone. saying their where terroist on that plane trying to get in the cock pit and make the plane crash. and the dudes that they said where trying to do it wernt no us goverment agents.goverment agents wouldent kill each other like those crazy bombers do.big sun or can i call you big dumb you are nuts and you need help.towards some of the other stuff you said about the goverment could be true who knows but as for 911 please stop with those theorys their soo far left.and yea the goverment does a lot of sneaky shitt but to make up all these things are crazy.you got terroist on video tapes that are all over the internet saying that they want to kill all of us. what are you blind??what does it take osama for you too walk in your living room and slap you with his future plains.and trust me the us isent all that bad you go to other countrys you will get your face cutt off for stealing a sandwitch.compare to any place in the world the usa is the most fair in the world even with the messed up things that still happend in the south. so if you dont like the us go too iraiq where woman cant drive cars cause their girls, also where if you are not musilim or covert to being muslim their will send you to jail and hanh you.go their.you se we cant talk about about our prez you go over their you will get your tounge cut off. we still have problems in the usa. but we are more free than any other pleaces in the world weather it will remind like this only time will tell. good day..and big sun kill you self.
I always laughed at attempts to equate hip hop to a religion but from some of the quotes yesterday it's apparent that hip hop is most certainly more than MUSIC for some. I liken it to a CULT where your favorite artist is some type of deity figure (God MC "Rakim" God's Son and Hova) and the anti-christ is usually some poor kid from the south like Soulja Boy. LOL!
Before any black artist begins to tackle the ills in society at large I'd like to see them deal with the issues in THEIR world, the music business.
1. Where are the Black concert promoters who handle entire tours? I don't wanna hear about some local promoter waiting to do leg work for a few crumbs when massa come through.
2. Where are the black owned distributors?
3. Where are the black owned hip hop publications?
4. Where are the black owned publishing companies?
5. Where are the black owned ANYTHING in hip hop? And don't feed me those misleading headlines about "Hova's" new business ventures cause he doesn't have a controlling interest in shit.
Some people are behaving as if naming an album NIGGER is the equivalent to Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat. NEWSFLASH people: It's not.
Memo to Nas: I don't know what your intent is or what the content of the album is nor do I care. If you wanna bring about change help break the spell your industry has on the minds of our people. Expose the fallacy of hip hop being black culture or black business because that's why people are hypersensitive about it. They have actually been decieved into thinking by defending rap they are defending blackness and black empowerment. Show them what a lie that is.
That would be a truly bold stand because it would mean undermining your livlihood for the sake of the greater good. Then again naming your album NIGGER and talking about things you have no power over is the easy way out. At least when you fail you'll have an acceptable excuse... NIGGERS!
HONESTLY I THINK NAS JUST TOUCH ON SUBJECTS THAT NEED 2 BE ADDRESSED AT THE POINT AND TIME HE ADDRESSES THE NOW INSTEAD OF THE FUTURE I MEAN LOOK AT ILLMATIC WHEN IT WAS ALL BOUT LYRICS AND FLOW THAT WAS THE ALBUM WHEN IT WAS SHIFITING BACK TO A LIL BIT OF BLACK PRIDE IT WAS WRITTEN WAS THERE 2 CAPTURE THAT WHEN HE WAS LEANING TO THE MORE COMMERCIAL APPEAL OF RAP HE DROPPED I AM AND NASTRADAMUS. DEN HE CAME BACK FULL CIRCLE WITH STILLMATIC WHICH COULDN'T TOUCH ILLMATIC BUT IT WAS STILL GOOD. THE HE KINDA KEPT IT UP WITH GOD SONS THE LOST TAPES AND STREET'S DISCIPLE. BUT WHEN PPL STARTED SAYING HIP HOP WAS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN HE DROPPED HIP HOP IS DEAD. AND NOW WITH THE NIGGER CONTROVERSY HE DECIDED HE GON ADDRESS IT WITH THIS ALBUM. SO HE BASICALLY MOVING WITH THE TIMES AND TRENDS BUT IN HIS OWN WAY
i spelled a few thing wrong cause i typed it fast but im sure you understood what i said.big sun your a war with people that are helping you.
@ React
No one here is worshipping Nas honestly you sound like you have a grudge against the man, Have you heard any of the songs that you know are on the album I haven't. Part of being intelligent is maintaining the ability to be objective to the unknown, you've just shot at the man and not heard what he said so to me your rant comes of more as a personal attack than one of having knowledge of what you are dealing with. Question are you white? Not coming at you neck or anything, but it's like Nas said in Hate me now "Niggas fear what they don't understand". If you a person who believes himself to be intelligent truly recognizes it, than you will take the next step into wisdom and stay objective until you hear the album. I mean it's not like he has not dropped knowledge in any of his other albums why be angry at consistancy? Why not be angry at hipocracy that you find in the business itself? Why aren't you feeling the need to debate Jeezy or any other rappers claiming to be black setting their own people back years instead of forwarding the cause of righteousness in the Black community? You fighting the wrong people, and asking the wrong questions, and you hating on a dude with well intentions.
CASE IN POINT: MR. BARACK OBAMA IN 2008
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Race relations are far from being cured in America (much less the world). But something that acts as a gauge is the current presidential campaign of one "Barack Obama." I'm not saying he's going to win; I'm not even saying that I Black people should vote for him just because. But for all that is wrong and negative and backwards, the fact that a Black man is THIS close to being president truly shows the sacrifices of the "real" revolutionists of yester-year were well worth it.
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NO, the US Govt isn't doing everything right and decently. But you can't help but feel hope for a brighter tomorrow - if we as people work hard for it.
That said, Nas' buffoonery is counter-productive. And for the last time, I don't care what's on the CD... it's what he's not doing now (since the can of worms has been opened) that matters. This is bigger than music. Talking out ya ass on conspiracy theories aint "answering the critics." That aint intelligent; that aint progress.
@ React
So you are a rich white Boy.
with out the bad spelling.@big sun its sounds lke you read too many far left web sites you no the ones where it says paris hilton is a ufo from the plant comack lol. if you really really think all those things you need zolft.cause the things you just typed are shitt you read from crazy sites that make up crazy things. when those towers where getting knocked down people on that plane where calling their familys cells phones some dident answer the phone so messages where left on those phones saying their where terroist on that plane trying to get in the cock pit and make the plane crash. and the dudes that they said where trying to do it wernt no us goverment agents.goverment agents wouldent kill each other like those crazy bombers do.big sun or can i call you big dumb you are nuts and you need help.towards some of the other stuff you said about the goverment could be true who knows but as for 911 please stop with those theorys their soo far left.and yea the goverment does a lot of sneaky shitt but to make up all these things are crazy.you got terroist on video tapes that are all over the internet saying that they want to kill all of us. what are you blind??what does it take osama for you too walk in your living room and slap you with his future plains.and trust me the us isent all that bad you go to other countrys you will get your face cutt off for stealing a sandwitch.compare to any place in the world the usa is the most fair in the world even with the messed up things that still happend in the south. so if you dont like the us go too iraiq where woman cant drive cars cause their girls, also where if you are not musilim or covert to being muslim their will send you to jail and hang you.go their.you se we can talk about our prez you go over their you will get your tounge cut off. we still have problems in the usa. but we are more free than any other pleaces in the world weather it will remain like this only time will tell. good day..and big sun kill you self.
@ BIG SUN. LET ME ANSWER THAT...
"No one here is worshipping Nas..." >>>The sum of the comments from yesterday and today essentially is that Nas is a "genius" and "this is what he wanted to happen all along." But in actuality, his actions so far are along the lines of gimmickry and publicity stunts. I'm not just talking about the "Nigger" album title, but especially following it up with the "Nigger" outfits at the Grammys and the lack of a good explanation for either one. FOR PEOPLE TO STILL CALL HIM A GENIUS AND DEFEND HIM after such offensive actions HAS to be celebrity-worship.
"you sound like you have a grudge against the man" >>> That couldn't be further from the truth. As a rapper, he's always been one of my favorites. But I take offense to these ill-advised stunts. If any of us were mad over Imus or that golf chick (who made the comments about Tiger being lynched), then we should DEFINITELY be upset with Nas.
"Have you heard any of the songs that you know are on the album I haven't" >>> For the last time, this has nothing to do with the songs on his album - but they damn better do right by the controversy. "Nigger" exists outside of Nas album. It has a long history and great social implication. So if you're gonna walk around with "Nigger" outfits on national television, you better give an immediate response as to why, rather than saying "wait till you hear the songs on the album!" Nas aint create the word or the issue.
"Question are you white? Not coming at you neck or anything, but it's like Nas said in Hate me now "Niggas fear what they don't understand". >>> THAT IS THE DUMBEST LINE OF REASONING YOU COULD'VE CONJURED UP. When a Black man criticizes something having to do with his own culture, the idiots in the room want to call him White. What is it that YOU don't understand here??? "Nigger" is not something the teenagers made up in the 90s as a way of addressing each other. It is attached to a long history of the demoralization and mental-destruction of an entire race of people... MY race of people. It's akin to being worthless animal who doesn't deserve the normal, common things in society and of the human experience. Our ancestors have fought long and hard to remove that poison and be allowed to get their just do.
SO WHEN A MUSICIAN WANTS TO COME AND MAKE LIGHT OF THAT, AND ARROGANTLY CLAIM TO BE ABLE TO MAGICALLY UNDO ALL OF THAT (through music nonetheless), I take personal offense to it. As pointed out yesterday, "Nigger" will never be a personal issue because it is attached to a whole race of people across the globe who have gotten the same ill-treatment. Nobody can say, "To ME, Nigger don't mean sh*t so it won't bother me."
HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR YOUR HISTORY AS WELL AS YOUR CULTURE TODAY!!!
Nas is an idiot. The 15th amendment guarantees the right to vote and that can never be taken away, the Civil Rights Act was only because of poll taxes and other things going on in the south.
big sun what does him being a rich white boy got to do with any thing?? are you from the 5 percent nation??? the 5 perecent nation stole the flog of turkey and try to use it as their simbol and they try to call them selfs gods. i like to se big sun go to turkey and say he is god while he trys to use their simbol as his belif. they will stone him to death..big sun are you reading this???
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@ React
You clearly don't have the intelligence to deal with me. Your a pseudo- ( that means semi or partially; gotta break it down for you React) intellectual that when tested by a person with a higher grade of education needs to resort to name calling and what you believe to be slick comments; hence you not taking your ass to the library or looking up Operation north woods to see that it is actually a real pentagon document that anyone can look up. I am presenting what exists your persist in propaganda and force your own rhetoric upon others without properly educating yourself. Come on now I don't have to post shit twice to get it right the truth only needs to be spoken once. Get on my level hoe. Pick up a book and stop wasting what little intelligence you have on hating, and grow the fuck up as a man. Trying to speak to you on real man terms without the insults can you handle that? Stop throwing shit when you ain't got out of the bowl homie you aint that bright.
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@ React
So you are a rich white Boy.
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OH MY GOOOOOOD!!! (Laughing at you and feeling very, very sorry for you!) How old are you, little guy? There's no way that you even finished high school, judging by that failed attempt at logic. So predictable! When in doubt, call him a White Boy. Hell, PZ (who we all know is White) makes 10x more sense than you.
I'm sorry for having addressed an idiot. I really did wasted the last 15 minutes of my time just now. Look, here's a word of advice. Step back and study the big picture. Remember that Hiip Hop is just music and Nas is just a dude. (Lamenting at the situation.)
I'm I a White Boy? No, muhfucka, I'm green and from the planet Mars. AND I STILL THINK NAS' ACTIONS ARE DISRESPECTFUL!
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING (aka PATHETIC)
BIGSUN wrote:
* You clearly don't have the intelligence to deal with me.
* hence you not taking your ass to the library or looking up Operation north woods...
* Get on my level hoe. Pick up a book and stop wasting what little intelligence you have on hating, and grow the fuck up as a man.
* Trying to speak to you on real man terms without the insults can you handle that? Stop throwing shit when you ain't got out of the bowl homie you aint that bright...
DAYUM, MR. BIGSUN, SIR! You really got me now (LMAO). You win, you win... I give up, oh most intelligent one!... So... now can I call you a Nigger? HAHAHAHAHHAAAAAA
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Take it easy, young-blood. Enjoy the day off from school.
@ Crazy Yellow Boy
No I am me, I am self contained, I carry my own torch no religion, just spirituality and respect for the truth. Let's not make assume anything ok. Yeah i'm reading while your assuming. ANd where did you come from with that anyways? What does him being a rich white boy have to do with this? Well 1. he has expressed those views from what seems to have been an outsiders view of the state of things that are in Black America. Who is the furthest from understanding the struggle of black people, RICH WHITE MEN. Hence the lack of their compassion for the atrocities of indegineous people of this land and African american people. 2. I can't understand a person having listened to a Nas album and not recognized that if he creates a diversion or draw to his album people will recognize it's existance. When DIck Gregory put the Book Nigger out where was the outrage? Did we not see the importance of it than because he was a comedian? When a person in the music industry puts out art why do people feel the need for censorship? Are you for censorship because I am not. I believe that if you are a parent you should explain to your children at the appropriate times what things are and let them know that doing their own investigation creates a wiser man. Where are you at with yours. Are you christian , who is your GOD? The truth hasn't presented itself to me and i'm not the only one in that boat, i'm just not willing to plug the holes of a religion with faith.
My first and last post on this one.
Big Sun, I co-sign a lot of your posting. I can't go with the back and forth between you and React. If you remember, I don't get into that kind of shit. But, I've read some seriously near-sighted stuff on here today. Here's the bottom line. None of us have heard any material from the album. Nas is dropping hints on the things that he will address on the disc. I'm curious to get another spin on the things that I think affect my people. I think it's a bad look to shit on someone before you've given them a chance to express themselves. You can go back and find my comments from yesterday in order to get how I feel about this topic and the artist. It isn't like Nas doesn't have precedent for Black Nationalism. He has always used deep metaphors to discuss the problems of the world today. I just hope he delivers. I'm reserving my judgement until then on Nas. I for one respect the element of career suicide associated with him making an album with this title. If it doesn't deliver then he will be done with his Black audience. If he does deliver, those marginal white consumers will turn on him. His label will have the excuse they need to drop him if it doesn't sell. He will be a pariah. I think that risk alone makes me appreciate the effort. Much respect to React and Nimrod, but I don't share your view.
@React
You right, there is continual hope and it continues to get better.
These 5% guys try and envoke continual fear as a method for maintaining their "godly" status. To admit things are improving from what they are is to admit that they are not god and their will and want to be looked at as "supreme" will die by the way side because civilization strives past that nonsense.
He said "you must be a right white boy." Big Sun...grow up DUDE. And naw, you ain't come at his neck, but you came at mine by asking that question simply because the man spoke up in disagreement with your belief that "nigger" is ok.
CHRIST BLESS!
"not so rich white boy"
PZ
I would have thought that Nas was deep enough to know that there are way too many other issues that need to be dealt with before trying to take on this NIGGER concept. The actual problem is really not about the word itself, its about the psychology of those who use it. The civil rights movement wasn't that long ago so for us to ALREADY have such a disconnect from our history is absolutely dispicable. We should not want to use that word just out of respect for those who died, got beaten, attacked by dogs, burned alive, and hung for our freedom. Nas is in over his head with this one. The lyrical content of this album has to be 100% on point... to the point where the average Souljaboy teenage rap fan can get it or its a wrap for Nas and a mockery of our struggle.
@ REACT
@ NIMROD
SO BE HONEST ARE BOTH OF YA'LL GON GO COP THE NIGGER ALBUM WHEN IT DROPS
If you are puerto rican or white, stay out of this conversation about the word nigger or nigga. This is a black issue and for black discussion.
However, I do find it interesting that puerto ricans and other non blacks are so focused on this nigger issue. Plain and simple Nas has the freedom of speech. He should be allowed to title the album anything he wants. Besides would it be worst than the references to killing and murder that is prevalent in this sorry excuse for a music genre? Nope.
Our rappers are allowed to talk about killing, rape, shooting, dealing drugs and being pimps. These are all contributions to the destruction of our family structure and community. But, when we attempt to confront the gatekeepers who control the content, all of a sudden we are crazy. This is very similar to when Prince was being mistreated and he painted the word slave and went around in public with the word o display. He was immediately attacked as being crazy and a degenerate.
This is the same thing that is happening to Nas.
If the repeated examination of Nas' judgment is a weak attempt for non blacks to justify their use of the word nigga. Just stop. ENOUGH ALREADY. It won't work.
@big sun well i dont belive in god i think nobody knows what happend in the begining of time. infact i belive in science i think we came from star dust and gasses that formed plants and gave life to humans and plants and .how we got here who knows.thats how i belive.i belive in mind power tho but thats a hole diffrent story.but with the name big sun sounds like a 5 percenter name.well man i ant gonna fight with you plus i have to go i have to get some new sneakers. its just me being half white i took offense by you saying to some one." are you a rich white boy" as if all whitre boys are rich " and the way you said white boy like if theirs something wrong being white.ok im out.. da door.
HERE I GO WASTING MY TIME AGAIN...
@ BIGSUN. We'll take this very slowly.
You wrote: "he (REACT) has expressed those views from what seems to have been an outsiders view of the state of things that are in Black America... (like the) RICH WHITE MEN."
So you think that my comments represents that of "rich white men."? Just answer this. My position is that making light and gimmickry of the term "Nigger" is offensive and disrespectful; that walking around in Nigger outfits is distasteful; that Nas has not given adequate reasoning to what looks like a publicity stunt.
IS THAT WHAT RICH WHITE MEN ARE SAYING ON THIS ISSUE? Just think about the foolishness you've just written. As you've chosen to categorize all "rich white men" as one diabolic portion of society (which is pure ignorance in and of itself), would "they" say what I'm saying???
Absolutely not. IN FACT, THEY WOULD SAY WHAT NAS IS SAYING: "Let's forget about the long history of the demoralization of Blacks in this country! Nigger? Why, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that word! We're ALL niggers, hahahaha!!! I'm a nigger, you's a nigger, she's a nigger! Lets all walk around wearing Nigger outfits! I need me some Nigger brand sneakers and jeans!"
KID, YOU ARE ALL MIXED UP. And the reason for it is for your blind celebrity worship. What Nas is doing is ABSOLUTELY, UNEQUIVOCALLY WRONG. No songs on a CD can turn that around.
@ React, and Nimrod. Please dont respond to these two post because they don't like Nas and for that matter hiphop. What Nas said is important because sadly the Hip Hop community is not aware of this bill that has to be renewed every 25 years, which is absurd. Nas only responsibilty is to educate the Hip Hop community and that is all.
@ protect your cup says...
I agree with the first couple of things u said regarding the towers and bush raising taxes and letting people drown and what not. But u must be reading far right propaganda to think that we are at war because of terrorist. We went to Afgahnastan to get Bin Laden and Al Queda, those are the ones who claim they knocked down the towers. We are in Iraq to find WMD that don't exsist, and now we're stuck. Them folks in Iraq aint have nothing to do with terrorism over here. The only reason Al Queda is in Iraq now is because we invaded. Bush made Iraq unsafe for us here in the US. Those sects are killing each other, their not worried about us. But at the same time we fighting phantom terrorist in Iraq, the real terrorist in Afganhastan are re-organizing. Don't believe them FOX New scare tactics. If we left Iraq, planes won't be flying into buildings everyday.
1. According to the United States Department of Justice, Both the 15th amendment to the U.S. Constitution and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 guarantee that no person can be prohibited from voting because of race or color. That guarantee is without expiration. The Voting Rights Act does not expire. Lawmakers did add some provisions to the law, however, that are up for review in 2007. Those include things like a ban on poll taxes, allowing the government to register voters if local registrars of voters refuse to do it, and monitoring of elections where there may be concern over everybody getting a chance to vote.
2. Both acts and laws are actions of congress and are the law. There is no distinction in terms of how long they exist. It depends on how they're written.
3. These special provisions of the Voting Rights Act were to originally expire in 1970, but congress voted to extend them. They were extended again in 1970, 1975, and 1982. The chances are good that congress will extend them again.
4. An extension does not any approval by the states. Somebody's gotten that mixed up with an amendment to the Constitution, which does require the approval of at least 38 U.S. states.