Live and direct, Boogie Down Productions is LARGE!!!
------> KRS ONE “Criminal Minded ’08,†Produced by DJ Premier {LISTEN}
Listen all you little readers 9 and up who listen to Soulja Boy (Damn he put Sister Souljah to shameâ€"and he doesn’t even know who she is). You must listen to the LYRICS. Even some of you 17-year-olds will not understand, because your ears are not conditioned to comprehend messages in rap songs. Mmm kay?
“Cuz the world is so hood/ you must always be ready to let it blooooow/ I rather peeeeeeace/ but these rappers won’t let me so here we go/…God knows I try to live non violent/ But rappers be too defiant no doubt/ They make me wanna try this new magnum out/ They be draggin them out/ cause of death: magnum going off in the mouth/ What yall talking bout you better walk it out/ Yall start mumbling when that hawk is out/ … Stoppin the violence is what I’m all about/ Stoppin the violence is what I’m all about/ But you raise your fist to Chris I’ll… blow you out like a birthday wish.â€
FIYAH.
I highlighted the “violent†lyrics in this song because … just because.
Many will say that with the hard lyrics in this record KRS is contradicting himself with his newly replenished Stop the Violence Movement, which first took flight in the late ‘80s. But you can hear the explanation throughout; it’s clear that many aren’t respecting the positive vibe he’s trying to distribute… well maybe that’s because these so-called “rappers†don’t do their homework so they don’t understand who he is or what he represents. Which leaves KRS no choice but to take it back to that Criminal Minded ‘hood language. I still bang this album from time to time, btw.
KRS first launched this Stop the Violence Movement shortly after the second half of Boogie Down Productionsâ€"DJ Scott La Rockâ€"was killed, and this organization later birthed the 1989 “Self Destruction,†{peep vid} which featured some of the biggest East Coast hip-hop stars of that time... when NYC was one big, violent, war zone slum.
The latest edition of Stop the Violence includes contributions from acts such as 50 Cent, Busta Rhymes, Snoop Dogg, Fat Joe, Cassidy, Talib Kweli and femme fatale MC Lyte. As of February 9th, cornball Nelly had even stepped into the studio to show love.
Check the Myspace page.
BTW, here’s Boogie Down Productions- “Criminal Mindedâ€
Posted by: SOHH Reckless, 3:22AM
That KRS jump off is hot!!! I know some of the younger hip hop fan will not understand what KRS is trying to say...because lyrics are so simple today talking about the same 4 topics on every song, When you mention the best mc's you hear the same names tupac and biggie like hip hop started with them and know mention of KRS,RAKIM BIG DADDY KANE... This is th only industry that has no respect for the ones that came before them..People need to go and talk to some of the godfathers of hip hip or READ A BOOK to find out the real reason why they really started this thing we call HIP HOP!!!!
I'd Rather Hear This Type Of Stuff On The Radio Than T - Pain. I Think KRS-1 Needs To Do A Collabo W/ 50Cent & Kanye.
I Think All Old Skool Rappers Need To Do Make A Combined Effort To Support ,Educate & Instill Pride In What Hip Hop Is All About. Let Alone Where It Started & Let The Kiddies Know To Respect The Older Heads. Not Throw Them Away. Casting Them To The Side As A Washed Up Rapper.
KRS Da Blastmaster
Rap music come from the indian drum!
http://www.MIDNIGHTisHERE.com
new york is STILL one big, violent, war-zone slum. and jersey is just one violent, war zone slum
NOW THIS IS THE SHIT THAT I MISS....NOW THAT'S HIP-HOP 4 ALL U YOUNG HEADS. THAT'S THE MUSIC OUT OF NYC THAT I REMEMBER.....SFLA!
Comes hard like 86?!!! LOL! It's 2008!!! I never understood the love affair with KRS. His 1st album was his best and it's not a classic. Good album but no classic. His claim to fame is he beat MC Shan (whoop tee fucking do) in a battle, oh and let's not forget Shan's 14yr old sidekick Shante. LOL! Don't judge this champ by his competition. LOL!
His flow was very Dr. Suess but his delivery was powerful. In all fairness, Poetry, My Philosophy, Black Cop and The Bridge Is Over were HOT for their time but lets not get carried away with the accolades today... Please.
Just imagine if a rapper were to use a fake Jamaican accent today as much as KRS did back then. Some people think he's Jamaican still. LOL! He'd be the laughing stock of hip hop. LOL!
What killed hip hop is new talent doesn't get the chance to shine or develop because we're consumed with yesterday and pay no attention to today. Where's the young hot talent? Will they ever get a chance? KRS was 19 when he dropped. Thank God it was 86 because in 2008 he'd have to compete with a bunch of grown ass men acting like kids. LOL!
Okay. I must confess. I posted without listening to the new song cause I assumed it would be wack and you know what? I was RIGHT!!! LOL! His flow is as stale as ever and the track was wack. I know Premier can do better but I'm sure KRS insisted on that sleepy track to accomodate his sleepy flow.
Where's the Sandman when you need him?
@NIMROD - Replied. 1
@NIMROD - Replied. 1
DAMN !!! Some niccaz complain like hoes.
@Nimrod....youre a lame. No one has stopped the young dudes frm shining...they just lack the talent to shine! And for your info Criminal Minded is a hands down classic....dont be ignorant....just quit listening to hip-hop, coz your comments sound really lame. There is opinion and then there is silly ignorance...and your not the former
A SELECT FEW OF OLD SCHOOL RAPPERS GET A PASS... and the verdict is still out whether or not KRS-1 gets to keep his.
(just back in the city from a trip to Miami...)
We all know that most old school rappers have this complex of feeling entitle to being called "legends" and being immortalized JUST BECAUSE they were around back then. But then again, Hip Hop heads are also responsible for creating this complex.
BELIEVE ME when I say that there definitely are those who deserve their pass. And definitely, KRS deserves his pass. He has put out memorable and impacting records in his time. So, he gets to be graded on a curve for his flow and for the production.
ALL IM SAYIN IS we could do without the whole "I'mma put all the young kats in their place" vibe. Dude already got his pass, he can just fall back. As for the "violent" lyrics... scratchin my head and just overlooking it. And the whole "we gets money" talk... you still got a pass.
But dude better just stay in his lane and keep himself where people can appreciate him (actually the memory of what he did way back when). And if these 80s kats aren't either producing or running labels, SHOULDN'T THEY GO GET A REAL JOB???!!!
damn 86 i was just a baby then couldn't be no more then a couple of months i do remember the self destruction song though
o dang my bad wat up ny niggas
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um...no the verdict is not out on whether KRS-one gets a pass...he is a hip-hop legend in stone...only in soulja boy circles is it debatable
MOST 80s/90s RAPPERS ARE TOURING IN WESTERN EUROPE RIGHT NOW TO PAY THE BILLS.
It is very hard to stay relevant in a game that has changed so much - not to mention whose quality has been terribly degraded. I understand that KRS-1 is doin what he has to do. I hear him on radio and TV interviews all the time. HE IS AT HIS FINEST as an "ambassador of the music." I thought he was tough when he came on Bill O'Reilly - truly intelligent and knew how to articulate his point of view. So yeah, there's definitely a place for KRS in 08 Hip Hop. He gets a pass but sometimes gets dangerously close to having it revoked. (But I'm referring to things beyond this particular track)
Compare what he's doing to what rappers like Rakim, EPMD, Gangstarr, and my n-word Masta Ace is doin right now. Sometimes it's good to lay low and live off your Western Europe tour money, ya know.
THE BEST NEWS I HEARD WHILE OUT OF TOWN was that Nas' album is in jeapordy and L.A. Reid is finally starting to realize that have taken a gamble. Props to all who "prophesied" that. Poetic Justice. They should just retitle it to "The Nigger Who Cried Wolf."
PS @ Reality Check. HAHAHAHAHAAAAA.... my man, you're STILL on that sh*t???!!!
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why should he stay low...his last album sold over 100,000 copies so clearly he still has a fan base
moresickaMC says... um...no the verdict is not out on whether KRS-one gets a pass...he is a hip-hop legend in stone...only in soulja boy circles is it debatable
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Easy, there. I for one definitely appreciate his contributions and would say that he hasn't done anything to embarrass himself or the Hip Hop legacy. But don't get bent if others don't put him on that pedestal (cuz that's stannin'). If someone says, KRS aint done sh*t in Hip Hop, then yeah, you can take a shot.
As long as KRS keeps from slick talk and doesn't proclaim himself the sheriff of Hip Hop thats gonna clean the town of all wack young rappers, then he stays OK. Look at Nas - Nigger bout to have his pass suspended! Shouts to Masta Ace and Guru. Kats like that are grinding it out in Europe. The
@React
I agree with everything you said and more.
@moresickamc
Dudes like you are hilarious. If I'm wrong on any point expose it. You're the same type of cat talking about sales don't matter then you say he sold 100k. LOL! Who bought it?!! Next week you'll be telling me this wack single went gold. The hypocrisy around here is funny as hell. Everyone's nemesis is Soulja Boy. LOL!
Give it up already. KRS had a few hot songs and battled a poor excuse of a rapper 22yrs ago. He's not great he's just one in a long line of MC's who had their moments.
moresickaMC says... why should he stay low...his last album sold over 100,000 copies so clearly he still has a fan base
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If KRS-1 can still sell records, more power to him. But "laying low" means for him to not go hard at the "young wack rappers" and act like he's gonna "clean up the game." The track on this blog is heading that direction. And dude don't need to do that.
AND NO, IT'S NOT "FIYAH." Damn, I can't stand when y'all go ape for no reason. You appreciate the track because it is KRS-1, but quit actin like it's the greatest single of the year.
@ react
so basically u saying for the old school legends like doug e. fresh, rakim, krs one, and kool g rap that it's more better for them 2 grind overseas
Rise and shine SOHH. I'm at work now so I haven't actually had the time to listen to this joint yet, but I will. I'm glad to see KRS reinvigorating the Stop The Violence movement. We are definitely still suffering with a lot of Black On Black crime so the message is needed. I'm glad to see a pioneer showing longevity and branching out into other ventures such as The Temple of Hip Hop Kulture etc. Like somebody else posted above we need to bridge the gap between the so called old school artists and the new generation so we can have a strong united thriving Hip Hop scene!! That way when imbeciles like Bill O Reilly try to attack us we can all shut him down from the youngsters to the veterans!!! My brother Un once told me there is strength in numbers so don't let them divide and conquer!!! Www.myspace.com/layerissolidarity!!!!!
Rise and shine SOHH. I'm at work now so I haven't actually had the time to listen to this joint yet, but I will. I'm glad to see KRS reinvigorating the Stop The Violence movement. We are definitely still suffering with a lot of Black On Black crime so the message is needed. I'm glad to see a pioneer showing longevity and branching out into other ventures such as The Temple of Hip Hop Kulture etc. Like somebody else posted above we need to bridge the gap between the so called old school artists and the new generation so we can have a strong united thriving Hip Hop scene!! That way when imbeciles like Bill O Reilly try to attack us we can all shut him down from the youngsters to the veterans!!! My brother Un once told me there is strength in numbers so don't let them divide and conquer!!! Www.myspace.com/layerissolidarity!!!!!
CLASSIC krs!!! CLASSIC premo!!
EVEN FAT JOE TRYING TO GET A "LEGEND" CARD...
Simply because he's been out for a while. The sh*t gets ridiculous. I'M BOUNCIN'
Wat-it-do Nimrod. Do us all a favor and put Reality Check out of his misery. Just one bullet to the dome. The kid has gone beyond catchin feelings. Dude has gone ape - online as an anonymous blogger!!! Just kill him already for his own good.
GHOST! (at least till the late afternoon)
REAL TALK IN THE MOTHERFUCKING HOUUUUUSE NIGGER.
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I can't stand KRS-1 because unlike 90% of the other old heads, he just can't move on with his life. He feels the need to be jealous that today they make more money than he ever did and he's mad that he only sells 40,000 records even with his gimmicks to promote his cd's by bashing new talent.
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KRS is the original Nas. He is the perfect example. He says hip hop is dead because of the music, yet if you listened to his cd's, you'd see he always rapped about money and guns, and even had that shit as his album cover. What a gimmick. HE FUCKING BLEW UP BY DISSING ANOTHER RAPPER AND ENDING HIS CAREER. He attacked this man for no reason, didn't even know him like that, just blindsided him, and yet you people buy his bullshit?
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To the idiot that said New York is one big slum, you're an ignorant ass nigger. NY real estate isn't depreciating because IT ISN'T a slum. Every borough besides the shithole they call the bronx, gets better and better (real estate wise) and the city is glowing. Even crime dropped since people are making more money than ever working legit jobs. Know what you speak off nigger.
KRS-ONE IS A HYPOCRIT!!!!!! I BET HE SNORT A KEY WITH ONE SNIFF!! SEND HIM DOWN HERE TO M I YAYO, TELL HIM THEY CHEAP DOWN HERE!!
south central born says...
@ react
so basically u saying for the old school legends like doug e. fresh, rakim, krs one, and kool g rap that it's more better for them 2 grind overseas
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No disrespect but... NIGGA WHAT!!??!!
I'm sayin that that's what most of them are doing. If KRS can sell records in the States, more power to him. The very MINOR issue I pointed out is that he don't need to position himself as the "sheriff of Hip Hop" that rids the land of all "young wack rappers."
He hasn't gone there yet, but the track is heading that direction. Otherwise, he has a pass and is appreciated for his previous contributions. nuff said.
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@ react
got u
@react
@ nimrod
aight honestly which rapper u think can play that role as the sheriff of hip hop if they had 2 be one honest opinion
@South Central Born
Hip Hop doesn't need a Sheriff it needs diversity and balance. There was a time when all forms of the genre co-existed. Militant, gangsta, political, abstract, etc. Now everyone's a tough guy or drug dealer or gangbanger or take it to the left and cooning. It;s pathetic.
I said it earlier this week. I don't wanna hear new music from old school cats. I want them to tour and perform their classics. That's their strength and it's timeless. Slick Rick and Dougie Fresh did "The Show" in 84 but that shit is timeless and a performance to see. It's like that with a lot of cats.
What hip hop needs is more youth doing different things to attract young consumers. Who's really gonna buy KRS' album when even Jigga is having a tough time selling? Is he serious?
@ SOUTH CENTRAL BORN
Frankly I don't think anybody can because there's not one artists that is universally respected (because there's too much hate). Everybody luv Biggie now, but I don't think it woulda been the case if he was still here in 08. Rakim is supposed to be the most revered - but he's touring Uzbekistan in order to keep up with his mortgage. The artist closest to that "sheriff" status in 08 would've been Jay Z (I know Chi-town just spilled his coffee) and look how much hate he gets.
The more reason why KRS should try it. Soulja Boy will come out with a diss track TOMORROW. He dont give a f#ck who KRS think he is. If the young kats aint checkin for Rakim, what makes KRS think they'll listen to him. Its a different world in Hip Hop than it used to be 20+ years ago. And the kids who can twitch and wiggle a new dance that earns them ringtone sales are now sitting in the same room as "mighty" KRS-1. (For the record, I don't really care for dude, but there's such a thing as "respect" in Hip Hop)
@ nimrod
u right it was a time when hip hop had diversity and everybody supported different things but now its more 1 sided if u not talking bout how rich u are or how many cases u caught or a new dance den its consider wack. even i recognize that and im a young cat im only 21
I love Hip Hop!! I need to go cop a lot of CDs man. I used to love that KRS album with Step Into A World and Ah Yeah, I forgot the name of it. Damn he was droppin jewels.
And for all you hypocritcal stans always calling some rapper a snitch... Did you know when Scott La Rock was killed the entire BDP cooperated with the police to get the killer convicted. I'm not condoning nor criticizing what they did I'm just putting it out there.
I just read the quote about the magnum from his song which I couldn't finish listening too and shook my head. Why do people talk tough when they know they keep 911 on speed dial?
By Any Means Necessary is right! LOL!
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DAMN !!! Some niccaz complain like hoes.
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U KNOW IT'S THE SAME NIGGERS WHO BLAH BLAH BLAH EVERYDAY.
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DAMN !!! Some niccaz complain like hoes.
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U KNOW IT'S THE SAME NIGGERS WHO BLAH BLAH BLAH EVERYDAY.
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Some niggas are chicks with dicks who can't take it when they hear the ttruth about their favorite rappers...
'What hip hop needs is more youth doing different things to attract young consumers. Who's really gonna buy KRS' album when even Jigga is having a tough time selling? Is he serious?'
That has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've read in a while on this site, apparently the 100K people that bought KRS’ last album. This highlights one of the problems with hip hop, too many people want it to be just assimilated with youth culture so once an artist reaches a certain age their supposed to suddenly stop making music which is garbage. The fact is KRS has a fan base and so what he's not moving Kanye numbers that doesn't mean he should just stop putting out new music for his fans that want to hear it. If you're not feeling it then fine go support whoever you want but it's illogical to tell an artist that is passionate about their music to fall back just because you aren't feeling them anymore. How come r&b, jazz, and rock artists can have careers that span decades but in hip hop you're supposed to only be a 3-5 year flash in the pan and then disappear? That's bullshit and that's the problem. There are 5 billion people on this planet and over 250 million people in the states so even the biggest selling artists that go multi-platinum aren't even tapping into the fan base they could have. If KRS can still pack shows overseas and push enough records at an independent level and make a sizeable profit and never have to get a regular 9-5, why should he stop just because youth-oriented fickle-minded hip hop fans in the states aren't feeling his music? Artists make music for their fans that enjoy it so and if that's not you it doesn't make them irrelevant it just means they’re not making it for you.
KRS One has always proclaimed to be a hip-hop gatekeeper so y should he stop now? the consensus is hiphop is wack rite now, so his message is as relevant as ever...but I guess weak fans like react ar satisfied with soulja boys hits
@EST
NEWSFLASH: Hip hop originated with the YOUTH and was at it's peak a YOUTH movement.
I don't know of many R&B or Rock artists or even Country artists from 20 to 30 yrs ago who are succeeding with NEW music. The pattern is to live offf your catalogue. Aretha Franklin is STILL paid to sing R-E-S-P-E-C-T 40yrs later!!! Likewise with the Rolling Stone who still get paid to sing "Satisfaction." There are many more examples. If you're gonna follow the blueprint follow it to the letter!
I wish all the has beens and never was would stay in their lane.
Hip Hop is dying because adaptation, progress and creativity are SHUNNED!
End of Story!
Enough of this talk about somebody delivering a message. Rappers like KRS been delivering messages for 22yrs! What good has it done? No one's listening. Give somebody else the podium. You had your turn!
Go tour and pay your bills like all the other cats from your generation. There's nothing wrong with that. Let the next in line have the shot you got... What's wrong with that?
THE TRACK LIST FOR SPIDER JOKE ALBUM
1.Never coming out (feat the eastcoast crips)
2. Used to be game homie until he blew up feat (the gap band )
3. No one from los angeles knows about me (feat boy toy)
4. G unit dont support me (feat beaver teeth)
5. Born again fag
6. (Remix) I used to be game homeboy
7. I dont have no stripes from my hood
8. Get nervous in vegas (feat young buck)
Bonus track
1. I ran like a bitch when I got big fase knock out (feat big white boy from bws)
G-Unit stan, I mean killer, all your info is wrong nigger.
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1) Spider already LEFT minutes before Fase got knocked out. The video shoot been over and he was GONE. He shot the video right on "Games" block and they didn't do shit until AFTER he left.
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2) G-Unit is fucked with heavy out in Cali, HEAAAAAVY. Nobody out in Cali fucks with Game because they all know he's fake and they all knew Spider from ECC before he was down with G-Unit.
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3) Right now he probably got a few hundred thousand less than Game with NO album out, because Game doesn't have that much doe. He gets 3 cents per album and doesn't sell out arenas by himself.
NO ONE IN THE RAP GAME CAN FUCK WITH KRS-1!!!
Nimrod says...
Just imagine if a rapper were to use a fake Jamaican accent today as much as KRS did back then. Some people think he's Jamaican still. LOL! He'd be the laughing stock of hip hop. LOL!
February 21, 2008 6:34 AM
Can you say Lil Wayne?
When Snoop first came out, he thought he was half Jamaican/half Chihuahua
What about NORE & Peedi Crackk who can't and don't speak a lick of Spanish, but try to incorporate that shit into their raps?
DaEmph says...
NO ONE IN THE RAP GAME CAN FUCK WITH KRS-1!!!
February 21, 2008 9:55 AM
I think he meant to say no one in the rap game can fuck with KRS-1's nose size
EST says...
February 21, 2008 9:29 AM
I co-sign this entire post. The problem with younger people these days is that they think they've lived and done more than us old heads. There comes a time in your life when you'll be an old head and you'll want your experience to be appreciated. Hip hop doesn't only belong to the youth. Hell, most of the 80s rapper started out when they were already in adulthood. Very few were high schoolers. I coach my son's basketball team and I swear all of them think they've played in the league, retired and are now coaching instead of being 6th - 8th graders learning how to play. I'm not going to honor some young cat telling me what I should do, how I should live and what I should say. Why should a veteran MC? The one thing I've learned as I've gotten older is that the things that I thought I knew weren't always right. That's why I can't honor some of the things I've read here today. Don't mistake intelligence for knowledge. They are two different things altogether.
Lastly, KRS is one of the mc's on the Mt. Rushmore of hip hop. His catalog, his flow and his message has been memorialized and honored by many mc's both old and young. To say that he hasn't put out classic albums is short sighted. Criminal Minded changed hip hop. Before that it was Dougie Fresh, Run DMC and others. Cats were bringing that grimey street shit before that. Even the classic Paid in Full was more about the skills of the mc and DJ than it was about the gutter like Criminal Minded. When By Any Means Necessary dropped it was the most anticipated joint of it's time next to RunDMC's Raising Hell thanks to My Philosophy dropping on Yo MTV raps. The buzz was off the charts. Point is, before you start spouting off about things you've heard or read you have to actually have been there. That's the difference between a youngster with knowledge which I respect and someone that's been there who should be respected.
GIANT co-sign EST!!! I couldn't have said it better myself my man.
GIANT co-sign EST!!! I couldn't have said it better myself my man.