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D*ckriding Lil Wayne Bows Down to Curtis, ...& is in the Works of Ruining the Classic Songs of Brooklyn Legends!!!!
Posted on February 26, 2008 2:43 AM
Let me address this quickly (via SOHH News):
"Jay-Z, Ratner, and Barclays are connected due to mutual interests in the development of a $4 billion Atlantic Yards project in Brooklyn. Ratner plans to build over 6,000 apartments and a new arena for his NBA franchise the New Jersey Nets at the site. As a partial owner of the Nets, Jay-Z has been a major advocate for Atlantic Yards and has made appearances at press conferences for the project, while Barclays owns naming rights to the arena."
This confirms that Hov doesn't give a f*ck about his own people... in his own borough. Guess he really is in fact down with the "black Republicans."
Damn. You come up, get loads of guap, and then sh*t on the hood that made you the "legend" you were.
SMH.
But down to the point of the post:
"That n*gga's crazy," Lil Wayne told MTV. "I ain't f*cking with 50. He's too high up there. That's my n*gga, though. I respect that my name even came out the homie's mouth. I just took it as a compliment. I would never go back at 50; he's a trillionaire. I'm trying to get there, homie. I'm smart. I ain't dumb."
Wow. Take Fif's c*ck from out the back of your throat. Have some pride.
Then he said "smart." So smart, you bought too much jewelry to pay for, 'cause you're always stocking up on coke and vicodin. With this trend, let's see how far you get on your quest for that Curtis dough. FYI- substance abuse is one of the main factors contributing to why many of your favorite "Where Are They Now" actors have desperately taken jobs as security guards... with the only numbers on their receipts reading as negative.
But wait-- the main point: Lil Whoopi also said he's in the works of making a mixtape called Hello Brooklyn, after he did a horrifying job with Hov on his record-- "Hello Brooklyn." I'd like to thank Sellout Jay for giving this dude the idea. Whoopi says he will dissect, rape, and gas chamber many classic records from BK's finest-- including Biggie, Big Daddy Kane, Hov, and possibly others, and make it the contents of this mixtape.
Utter disrespect.
Why? Why are people allowing this to happen? This is sickening. This is almost worse than Ballerina P's blasphemous line to 50 Cent.
SMH.
And since Jay is the dominating factor on today's blog, how about that NYDailyNews rumor of he and Nas doing an album together? I would link, but since when do these people ever get anything right?
Posted by: SOHH Reckless, 3:14AM
wayne is so overrated
Im going to bone each and everyone one of your moms below me.
At the end of the day, Weezy is the best rapper out, and he'll have plenty MORE skrilla after the Carter 3 drops... But go ahead and keep hatin. lol I'm sure Weezy cares what u think... smh
"Why are people allowing this 2 happen??"....
Damn! U sayin it like we can just bum rush the studio he recordin in..
We caint control what he want his mixtape 2 be about...
Let wayne do him
Wayne secretly wants to be a New Yorker?
nway...who cares wot beat he raps over...hes still average as far as an MC. Jay-Z is still the best
And I hope that Nas/Jay-Z album is true
I LIKE LIL WAYNE'S CONCEPT FOR DA MIXTAPE. HE GOIN POP SOME PILLS, TOOT SOME BLOWS, AND RECORD THAT WHOLE THING IN ONE DAY.
http://www.myspace.com/jdubbthayounghectic
Thats why 50 the boss of the gangsta rap game. Got the south's top rapper doin the harlem shake. LMAO
1. The lawsuit against Jay is frivolous.
2. What Wayne said is just consistent with everyone else in rap except Fat Joe. People are very careful of what they say publicly about 50. Either because they ar afraid of him or because they have hopes of working with him in the future. No matter what people say he's the biggest name in the game STILL. If any of these dudes had a choice between doing a collabo with Kabye or 50 they're rolling with 50 hands down.
3. Sad but true... The NY Daily News has a better accuracy rate than Reckless. I'd believe something I read there before I believe what I read on the Net. Usually, the entertainment stories are leaked from the artists publicists themselves. Whereas on the Net people get their info from other sites and papers like the NY Daily News.
I NEED THAT TRANNY LOVE YALL-CATCH ME ON SPRING AND 3RD AT 2AM IN THE ATL.
I don't think weezy knos how nice he is is...he can lyrically rip tha shit out of 50...fuck tha money he needs 2 expose 50...at first I thought it was buck dat was scarin him cuz buck kno some shit bout his career but buck gon now so fuck 50 up....that's how I see it but 2 all tha new york niggas that's gon come on here later on 2day 2 talk shit....like it or not weezy is top 5 lyrically in tha game right now n when tha carter 3 drop he makin history believe dat
N for jay.....I would expect this from him because he is a dirty nigga dats only out 4 tha money
Yeah wayne man up man up rep your set rep that be a thug.
Heres what theyll say when you do.
1. If you try and fail your career will be destroyed then they will say "shouldve known wayne you shouldVe known better"
2. If you both shoot at each other and die foolish then theyll say"we need more love in the game shame on you wayne"
wayne did the right thing.
if bloggers was alive when big and pac was alive yall would ve sped up their death.
Lil Wayne a bitch he 1st has da nerve to not get at 50 when 50 got at him and he disgracing BK rappers when he comin out with his shit,stay to the south homie,NY aint for u.
I really want wayne to make the mixtape then come to bk and get robbed and smacked up more then he does on night's he shares his bed with baby fuck lil gaye and his gay homothug movement bk bville stand the fuck up holla at ya folk
@Dareal
It stopped being about skills a long time ago. People who don't understand that keep getting disappointed when their idea of "real" hip hop flops. 50 is the 800lb Gorilla in rap. He's not going verse for verse with anybody. He threatened to buy the Lox's publishing and shut them down. He made Dre back off from Game. I don't think people who think this is lyrical understand what it means to take on 50. He's slipped a lot but so has everyone else so things remain the same.
@Montana
Big and Pac's death wasn't the result of a rap battle. That's what happens when entertainers take the act too far and get involved with TRUE and living G's who react differently to beef. While rappers get on Youtube or make a diss or have a fist fight in a club or shoot in the ceiling of a club real G's put your lights out.
Both Pac and Big made the mistake of getting too close to the streets. Neither were really street dudes. Pac assaulted a notorious gang member (high on weed I'm sure) and it cost him his life. Big or Puff owed real gang members money for whatever and failed to pay and we know the rest.
If they had both stayed in their rap lane they'd be alive today. I haven't heard of tough talk or 16 bars killing anyone yet.
Why shouldn't Jay be bout that guap? The Nets in BK? Yesssir! God knows the Knicks aint doing nothing for NY. Do you understand how many jobs this will bring to the BK.
The Nas/Jay-Z album should be the topic of the blog. When that shit comes out Dr. Dre gon have to step his schedule up cause that shit could go Diamond
Most people cant afford to live in that part of Brooklyn and alot of these "working poor" are getting top dollar to relocate.
At least Game put his career on the line to go at 50. Game went for broke and he won that shit.
Now Weezy don't wanna fuck up his money by going at 50? It's a sorry state of affairs in hip hop right now.
Stop complaining about Jay-Z and his buisiness moves. Get some real paper instead of writing BS blogs and do you. You talking about Lil Wayne got 50's cock in his mouth, but you got your piehole stuffed with Jigga's.
RECKLESS JUST PULLED A NAS & KELIS... PROTESTING ABOUT SOMETHING YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT...
ON THE ATLANTIC YARDS/NEW ARENA PROJECT, THE FOOL SAID: "This confirms that Hov doesn't give a f*ck about his own people... in his own borough. Guess he really is in fact down with the "black Republicans." Damn. You come up, get loads of guap, and then sh*t on the hood that made you the "legend" you were.
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Haterism is one thing, but IDIOTIC haterism is absolutely intolerable. How the f#ck is Jay "sh*ttin on his own people" by being involved with the Atlantic Yards Project!?! NIGGA WHAT!!!???
That deal is one of the best things to happen in Brooklyn in decades, from a commercial/financial standpoint.
1) IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, Brother React is in the construction business and this thing has meant MANY NEW PROJECTS which spells MANY NEW JOB OPPORTUNITIES for EVERYONE, including the local folks.
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2) They're gonna have to clear out some additional buildings along the Atlantic Yards, which means the people who own that property will be gettin $$$ for it (which normally wouldn't have sold in this current housing slump).
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3) Part of the deal to go through with the project required that a number of SCHOOLS also be built in the area, not just hotels and retail stores. In all, it's going to be a renaissance of sorts for the area.
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4) I've complained about the negatives on this blog before. Those include the traffic (Flatbush and Atlantic is bad enough). The small shop owners were complaining about the competition, but that's already the case. My own complaint was the fact that I was being outbid by all the Jews (no offence); not enough minorities are getting a piece of the pie. SO IT'S A GOOD LOOK THAT JAY OF ALL PEOPLE IS IN ON IT.
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BUT NO, Y'ALL WANT TO KEEP THE SLUMS AND PROJECTS, RIGHT!. Reck-kelis better study up on sh*t before you unleash the hate. You, of all people, actually should keep your Nigger t-shirt ON.
Whut do u call those people that have an inate fear of change... Oh yer HATERS. I bet the weezy mixtape will be fire!!
REAAAAAAL MOTHERFUCKING TALK IN THE HOOOOOOOUSE...NIGGERS
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1) Wayne is saying what everyone knows. 50 is like the national mafia boss and everyone else are just paper voters on the council. They will never go directly at 50, music wise or street wise. Once a man gets a certain amount of money and wealth, he just becomes too strong to challenge. Even if you thought 50 was pussy (which his own enemies say otherwise) you'd have to be an idiot to want street beef with him. Like he said "I can make the pope get shot".
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2) I don't like Jay-Z because he's like Nas in my eyes, except he doesn't pretend to care about blacks, people just assume he does. The thing is though, building an arena in Brooklyn WILL increase revenue to the community. It increases tourism, outside visitors, who then need to buy gas, buy food, stop at a clothing store they see, etc etc. Brooklyn is also going through reverse flight, and tons of whites are moving in. New apartments are needed so blacks have a place to go, since we're losing our brownstones.
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3) Game didn't win shit. Does anyone mention Game anymore? He's not even rich. He gets a few pennies per cd and he's signed to 4 labels, so they each have to recoup before he sees a penny.
ON THE ATLANTIC YARDS PROJECT, THE ONLY PEOPLE CRYIN ABOUT IT ARE THOSE WHO WERE TOO DUMB TO NOT GET INVOLVED...
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It caught a lot of heat and still is getting it to this day - but it's going through. I personally was present at a few of the meetings. And y'all shoulda seen it - among all the investors, hardly any Black-Americans. I fought tooth-and-nail to get my piece, but there are a lot of heavyweights involved - and that's why it's gonna go through, lawsuit and all.
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THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF NIGGERONIAN LOGIC... and please believe that I'm not some self-hating Black man; I cherish my culture more than the average man, and know how important it is to be able to constructively criticize the obvious.
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Many of us (not all) say we want to see our culture/race succeed in areas like owning businesses and properties. But then we approach something like this with the most narrow-minded idiocy imaginable. ONE REASON IS MANY OF US ARE CONFUSED WITH THE DEFINITIONS OF "ADVANCEMENT" VS. "KEEPING IT REAL." Think on that one for a minute.
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We complain about the slums, the drug-dealing and violence. But then we don't want to clean it up because we wanna "keep it real" or "keep it gangsta," etc.
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The Atlantic Yards project is just "business as usual." Aint no different from anything done elsewhere. But my regret is that more Black Americans are not getting in on the investment and ownership side.
@ REAL TALK
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You wrote: "I don't like Jay-Z because he's like Nas in my eyes, except he doesn't pretend to care about blacks, people just assume he does. The thing is though, building an arena in Brooklyn WILL increase revenue to the community."
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THAT'S ALL I'M SAYIN! You don't gotta like the dude, but we should be able to see this for what it is. The project will benefit the city. (But I reiterate that more Black owners and investors should have been involved)
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Vote "No" to Niggodry
@React
Peace!
Reckless is from the Bx and she obviously rarely ventures out her 4 block radius.
I said it before and I'll say it again. There's a rejection of success among people who are resigned to failure.
They HATE anyone doing what they are afraid to even dream about because they might fall short in their dreams.
Since Wayne is this generation's "go to" rapper, I'd like to officially go on record and say that he is prolley the biggest contributor to declining hip-hop due to irrational and ignorant comments like the one post above. If anything, and I'm speaking strictly about the money which has been quoted by Forbes and Fortune 5 so in no way am I trying to be "in his pockets", the biggest chunk of 50's money is not even hip-hop related (i.e. Vitamin Water, GRODT the movie, Pontiac, Reebok, and G-Unit clothes). He's sold a hell of a lot of units compared to a lot of other people, no doubt, but that aint where the majority of his money comes from. Meanwhile, Weezy has no major endorsements, and for y'all young nuccaz that never seen the hustle, if you poppin and blowing part of ya supply, you losing money in the end somewhere, no matter how you slice it, no matter what drugs he move. So in short, Weezy has garnered a lot of people's attention solely thru the rap game (and by getting arrested a few times), so why would you say 50's is over his head??? If Baby would slap him in his nappy roots a few times for him to put the pills down, he could see that he has the people in his corner and enough lyrical skill to smash 50 (and it helps that he aint broke like the Lox was). Not only that, but that comment made him look poor as shit, like everything he say on records is fluke. EASY
Damn Jay not suppose to get money gtfoh. Reck dude you mean to tell me sohh didn't profit off blacks tell me who owns the rights to this site you so righteously blog for everyday. Stop being jealous homey get in where you fit in, if not fall back
@ Jaysiatic...
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Dude you're wilden. Wayne has NO money. He barely touches platinum, most times goes gold. He doesn't see any money from his albums and then he doesn't sell out entire arenas. He most likely is not even a millionaire at this point.
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As far as 50, yes a large part of his money comes outside of rap but I don't think you understand how the game works. Remember he made over 60 million his first year, before he had all this outside investments. He owns G-Unit records and sees 50% of all profits from that. So Buck, Yayo, Game, Banks, made him about 75 million before tax and expenses. He also sells out entire arenas of 20,000-30,000 people and at $50-500 a ticket, that adds up to a lot of money. Vitamin water just was the biggest lump sum, but most money still comes from the rapping.
@ Jaysiatic again...
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By the way, it's about fans. Wayne barely goes platinum, so he has maybe 1 million fans on a good day. 50 still has millions worldwide and can make you a clown. Game never recovered, no matter how many people online swear he "beat" 50. Half of people see Game as disloyal and the rest know he's a huge gimmick, he never banged a day in his life.
@Nimrod
U 100% right 50 is tha real elephant in the room but u also lose respect in tha game if u somebody like weezy that's says he's tha best rapper alive but when another rapper comes at you....you act like a bitch because of tha money....50 is a genuis when it comes to tha business/marketin side n dis shit so yea weezy aint fuckin wit him on that level but this shit is about respect and longevity n tha game...weezy gotta go at that nigga...he's way more popular than jada n all tha other niggas that tried to go at 50 so he jus need 2 get at him cuz weezy is lyrically better anyway...I think it would benefit his career
@Nimrod
U 100% right 50 is tha real elephant in the room but u also lose respect in tha game if u somebody like weezy that's says he's tha best rapper alive but when another rapper comes at you....you act like a bitch because of tha money....50 is a genuis when it comes to tha business/marketin side n dis shit so yea weezy aint fuckin wit him on that level but this shit is about respect and longevity n tha game...weezy gotta go at that nigga...he's way more popular than jada n all tha other niggas that tried to go at 50 so he jus need 2 get at him cuz weezy is lyrically better anyway...I think it would benefit his career
@Nimrod
U 100% right 50 is tha real elephant in the room but u also lose respect in tha game if u somebody like weezy that's says he's tha best rapper alive but when another rapper comes at you....you act like a bitch because of tha money....50 is a genuis when it comes to tha business/marketin side n dis shit so yea weezy aint fuckin wit him on that level but this shit is about respect and longevity n tha game...weezy gotta go at that nigga...he's way more popular than jada n all tha other niggas that tried to go at 50 so he jus need 2 get at him cuz weezy is lyrically better anyway...I think it would benefit his career
@Nimrod
U 100% right 50 is tha real elephant in the room but u also lose respect in tha game if u somebody like weezy that's says he's tha best rapper alive but when another rapper comes at you....you act like a bitch because of tha money....50 is a genuis when it comes to tha business/marketin side n dis shit so yea weezy aint fuckin wit him on that level but this shit is about respect and longevity n tha game...weezy gotta go at that nigga...he's way more popular than jada n all tha other niggas that tried to go at 50 so he jus need 2 get at him cuz weezy is lyrically better anyway...I think it would benefit his career
@Nimrod
U 100% right 50 is tha real elephant in the room but u also lose respect in tha game if u somebody like weezy that's says he's tha best rapper alive but when another rapper comes at you....you act like a bitch because of tha money....50 is a genuis when it comes to tha business/marketin side n dis shit so yea weezy aint fuckin wit him on that level but this shit is about respect and longevity n tha game...weezy gotta go at that nigga...he's way more popular than jada n all tha other niggas that tried to go at 50 so he jus need 2 get at him cuz weezy is lyrically better anyway...I think it would benefit his career
Sorry 4 all tha post my phone was fuckin up
Are ya'll really bickering about these nigga's money, Damn these comments are getting so wack I don't even wanna really post.
Will somebody please say something interesting.
@NIMROD
.You said:Also remember without the State of Israel there's no Armageddon. There's no return of the Messiah to Jerusalem and so on. By creating Israel those prophecies received a makor boost. What christians won't acknowledge is that during Jesus' time the jews rejexted Jesus because according to their interpretation the Messiah would be a warrior. 7o years after Jesus, Bar Kopka came on the scene and the Jews rallied behind him in his fight against the Romans. That was the decisive battle that caused the Romans to destroy Israel.
*************************.You believe that there was a jesus? Born of a virgin,walked on water,healed the sick,got persecuted,died and was resurrected...the ancient egyptians I believe have a character in there religion that has the same or similar story line,and this is thousands years before the supposed jesus was born...and is there any historic proof that a jewish state ever existed before 1948? And where was it? The only ancient jewish or christain state I know of is the kingdom of axum located in ethiopia,but I'm not sure,and that still might not make the bible true... Continue:Without the existence of Israel much of what is in the bible rings hollow since the book is based on the existence of Israel.
*************************.True. But what about the new testement? Many people believe the new testement with jesus makes israel obsolete also.they believe that if you try to live like jesus and believe in him you shall have everlasting life.
.Continue:Rastas for example in an attempt to make the book relevant to their beliefs substitute Selassie for the Messiah and Marcus Garvey for Moses. LOL! Unless you're a decendant of the original Israelite you'll have a hard time connecting yourself to the figures in the book although people do get creative. LOL!
************************* .LMAO! Hahahahahaha! I try my best not to shit on people weard beliefs but you set it off...I know selassie tried to say that he was related to king david,but what if the characters in the bible didn't exist? and if they did maybe it was just a made up story to glorify the king.
Are ya'll really bickering about these nigga's money, Damn these comments are getting so wack I don't even wanna really post.
Will somebody please say something interesting.
@NIMROD
.You said:Also remember without the State of Israel there's no Armageddon. There's no return of the Messiah to Jerusalem and so on. By creating Israel those prophecies received a makor boost. What christians won't acknowledge is that during Jesus' time the jews rejexted Jesus because according to their interpretation the Messiah would be a warrior. 7o years after Jesus, Bar Kopka came on the scene and the Jews rallied behind him in his fight against the Romans. That was the decisive battle that caused the Romans to destroy Israel.
*************************.You believe that there was a jesus? Born of a virgin,walked on water,healed the sick,got persecuted,died and was resurrected...the ancient egyptians I believe have a character in there religion that has the same or similar story line,and this is thousands years before the supposed jesus was born...and is there any historic proof that a jewish state ever existed before 1948? And where was it? The only ancient jewish or christain state I know of is the kingdom of axum located in ethiopia,but I'm not sure,and that still might not make the bible true... Continue:Without the existence of Israel much of what is in the bible rings hollow since the book is based on the existence of Israel.
*************************.True. But what about the new testement? Many people believe the new testement with jesus makes israel obsolete also.they believe that if you try to live like jesus and believe in him you shall have everlasting life.
.Continue:Rastas for example in an attempt to make the book relevant to their beliefs substitute Selassie for the Messiah and Marcus Garvey for Moses. LOL! Unless you're a decendant of the original Israelite you'll have a hard time connecting yourself to the figures in the book although people do get creative. LOL!
************************* .LMAO! Hahahahahaha! I try my best not to shit on people weard beliefs but you set it off...I know selassie tried to say that he was related to king david,but what if the characters in the bible didn't exist? and if they did maybe it was just a made up story to glorify the king.
Essex you dumb ass nigger. The reason money is being brought up is to explain why Wayne won't leap. 50 is just too strong for him, fan base, money, influence, street influence, etc etc. So stfu NIGGER.
@NIMROD
.You said:Also remember without the State of Israel there's no Armageddon. There's no return of the Messiah to Jerusalem and so on. By creating Israel those prophecies received a makor boost. What christians won't acknowledge is that during Jesus' time the jews rejexted Jesus because according to their interpretation the Messiah would be a warrior. 7o years after Jesus, Bar Kopka came on the scene and the Jews rallied behind him in his fight against the Romans. That was the decisive battle that caused the Romans to destroy Israel.
*************************.You believe that there was a jesus? Born of a virgin,walked on water,healed the sick,got persecuted,died and was resurrected...the ancient egyptians I believe have a character in there religion that has the same or similar story line,and this is thousands years before the supposed jesus was born...and is there any historic proof that a jewish state ever existed before 1948? And where was it? The only ancient jewish or christain state I know of is the kingdom of axum located in ethiopia,but I'm not sure,and that still might not make the bible true... Continue:Without the existence of Israel much of what is in the bible rings hollow since the book is based on the existence of Israel.
*************************.True. But what about the new testement? Many people believe the new testement with jesus makes israel obsolete also.they believe that if you try to live like jesus and believe in him you shall have everlasting life.
.Continue:Rastas for example in an attempt to make the book relevant to their beliefs substitute Selassie for the Messiah and Marcus Garvey for Moses. LOL! Unless you're a decendant of the original Israelite you'll have a hard time connecting yourself to the figures in the book although people do get creative. LOL!
************************* .LMAO! Hahahahahaha! I try my best not to shit on people weard beliefs but you set it off...I know selassie tried to say that he was related to king david,but what if the characters in the bible didn't exist? and if they did maybe it was just a made up story to glorify the king.
Essex you dumb ass nigger. The reason money is being brought up is to explain why Wayne won't leap. 50 is just too strong for him, fan base, money, influence, street influence, etc etc. So stfu NIGGER.
@NIMROD
.You said:Also remember without the State of Israel there's no Armageddon. There's no return of the Messiah to Jerusalem and so on. By creating Israel those prophecies received a makor boost. What christians won't acknowledge is that during Jesus' time the jews rejexted Jesus because according to their interpretation the Messiah would be a warrior. 7o years after Jesus, Bar Kopka came on the scene and the Jews rallied behind him in his fight against the Romans. That was the decisive battle that caused the Romans to destroy Israel.
*************************.You believe that there was a jesus? Born of a virgin,walked on water,healed the sick,got persecuted,died and was resurrected...the ancient egyptians I believe have a character in there religion that has the same or similar story line,and this is thousands years before the supposed jesus was born...and is there any historic proof that a jewish state ever existed before 1948? And where was it? The only ancient jewish or christain state I know of is the kingdom of axum located in ethiopia,but I'm not sure,and that still might not make the bible true... Continue:Without the existence of Israel much of what is in the bible rings hollow since the book is based on the existence of Israel.
*************************.True. But what about the new testement? Many people believe the new testement with jesus makes israel obsolete also.they believe that if you try to live like jesus and believe in him you shall have everlasting life.
.Continue:Rastas for example in an attempt to make the book relevant to their beliefs substitute Selassie for the Messiah and Marcus Garvey for Moses. LOL! Unless you're a decendant of the original Israelite you'll have a hard time connecting yourself to the figures in the book although people do get creative. LOL!
************************* .LMAO! Hahahahahaha! I try my best not to shit on people weard beliefs but you set it off...I know selassie tried to say that he was related to king david,but what if the characters in the bible didn't exist? and if they did maybe it was just a made up story to glorify the king.
@NIMROD
.You said:Also remember without the State of Israel there's no Armageddon. There's no return of the Messiah to Jerusalem and so on. By creating Israel those prophecies received a makor boost. What christians won't acknowledge is that during Jesus' time the jews rejexted Jesus because according to their interpretation the Messiah would be a warrior. 7o years after Jesus, Bar Kopka came on the scene and the Jews rallied behind him in his fight against the Romans. That was the decisive battle that caused the Romans to destroy Israel.
*************************.You believe that there was a jesus? Born of a virgin,walked on water,healed the sick,got persecuted,died and was resurrected...the ancient egyptians I believe have a character in there religion that has the same or similar story line,and this is thousands years before the supposed jesus was born...and is there any historic proof that a jewish state ever existed before 1948? And where was it? The only ancient jewish or christain state I know of is the kingdom of axum located in ethiopia,but I'm not sure,and that still might not make the bible true... Continue:Without the existence of Israel much of what is in the bible rings hollow since the book is based on the existence of Israel.
*************************.True. But what about the new testement? Many people believe the new testement with jesus makes israel obsolete also.they believe that if you try to live like jesus and believe in him you shall have everlasting life.
.Continue:Rastas for example in an attempt to make the book relevant to their beliefs substitute Selassie for the Messiah and Marcus Garvey for Moses. LOL! Unless you're a decendant of the original Israelite you'll have a hard time connecting yourself to the figures in the book although people do get creative. LOL!
************************* .LMAO! Hahahahahaha! I try my best not to shit on people weard beliefs but you set it off...I know selassie tried to say that he was related to king david,but what if the characters in the bible didn't exist? and if they did maybe it was just a made up story to glorify the king.
@ NIMROD...
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What-it-do, chief!
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Reck-kelis sure got me to "react" with that moronic comment. And I know that he/she/it would want to play it off as something they MEANT to do just to get the bloggers to go off - YEAH RIGHT. He/she/it seems to enjoy making a fool out of itself every morning.
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But that takes me back to our current "king of bullsh*t" right now: NASIR JONES. Some bloggers have already begun to say "stop beating a dead horse!" But the horse has hardly come out the gate yet.
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Yesterday they posted a track supposedly off the "Nigger" album, and most of the bloggers missed the point. IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW GOOD OR BAD OR MEDIOCRE THE TRACK IS. No, no, no! This is a CONCEPT ALBUM that's tackling a huge subject and has stirred up mad loads of controversy and anticipation. I don't care if it turns out to be "Illmatic" calibre - WHAT DOES IT DO OR SAY ABOUT THE TOPIC!?! How is it working towards universally ridding the stigma of the word!?!
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Yeah, I know that it's only 1 track so far. But based on the concept, that first shot was an air-ball. L.A. Reid & company gonna look real short for having supported Nas and giving him a blank check for this one.
@ NIMROD...
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What-it-do, chief!
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Reck-kelis sure got me to "react" with that moronic comment. And I know that he/she/it would want to play it off as something they MEANT to do just to get the bloggers to go off - YEAH RIGHT. He/she/it seems to enjoy making a fool out of itself every morning.
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But that takes me back to our current "king of bullsh*t" right now: NASIR JONES. Some bloggers have already begun to say "stop beating a dead horse!" But the horse has hardly come out the gate yet.
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Yesterday they posted a track supposedly off the "Nigger" album, and most of the bloggers missed the point. IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW GOOD OR BAD OR MEDIOCRE THE TRACK IS. No, no, no! This is a CONCEPT ALBUM that's tackling a huge subject and has stirred up mad loads of controversy and anticipation. I don't care if it turns out to be "Illmatic" calibre - WHAT DOES IT DO OR SAY ABOUT THE TOPIC!?! How is it working towards universally ridding the stigma of the word!?!
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Yeah, I know that it's only 1 track so far. But based on the concept, that first shot was an air-ball. L.A. Reid & company gonna look real short for having supported Nas and giving him a blank check for this one.
@Dareal
I hate to say this but you can't expect people who only talk about money and materialism to not bow down to the power of the dollar. It's like expecting a whore to be noble.
When any of these guys promote their wealth the intent is to tell those who don't have it and want it to bow down.
Beneath the tatoos, gang affiliation, tough talk and all that we're talking about people who put money before principle, honor, righteousness and even their own MASCULINITY in more cases than the average fan can stand to know.
Money is his god. Why wouldn't he submit?
@Dareal
I hate to say this but you can't expect people who only talk about money and materialism to not bow down to the power of the dollar. It's like expecting a whore to be noble.
When any of these guys promote their wealth the intent is to tell those who don't have it and want it to bow down.
Beneath the tatoos, gang affiliation, tough talk and all that we're talking about people who put money before principle, honor, righteousness and even their own MASCULINITY in more cases than the average fan can stand to know.
Money is his god. Why wouldn't he submit?
@REACT
I was gonna question reckless's knowledge on this matter also,but unlike reckless,I'm willing to admit that I don't have full knowlede of the subject matter.isn't it true that the people getting moved out aren't prodominently black and there getting paid to move?
From my understanding,this isn't like the situation in manhattan where columbia university muscled the residents out of there business's and apartments using eminent domain.
@Agnostic
I believe a man named Jesus walked the Earth 2000yrs ago. I'll wisely plead the 5th on all else pertaining to him.
It's not important what I believe though. The things I discussed yesterday are staged for those who believe in those things and their #'s are many.
It tough to counter emotion with intellect and faith with science. Ultimately, the result we acquire will validate or invalidate the choices we make.
Personally, I believe we are all on a unique path to the same destination which is knowledge of SELF. Some will get there sonner than others but eventually we all get there. If not in this life then surely in another.
Back to hip hop. LOL!
wat up ny niggas shout out to react, dre, nimrod, real talk,
and da rest of ya'll. now for my opinion to me lil wayne picks his battles that just from what i observed cause he goes hard at the clipse who isn't that much main stream then he is but 2 me lyrically they can go head to head with wayne. so in a fucking nutshell da nigga picks and chose his battles that he feel will benefit him.
o yea yo boy is a dad this morning just had 2 put that shit out there to.
ABOUT MR. CURTIS "BULLETPROOF" JACKSON...
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I'M NOT SURPRISED BY WAYNE'S COMMENTS. What really amazes me about 50 is for the amount of hate he has caught in the last 2 years, the fact that he's still surviving is miraculous - even the haters have to admit that.
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F#ck what you see on Youtube, there's GOTTA be something on the low that has other artists reacting the way they do. It's one thing to be a studio gangster (which virtually all of them are); but quite another to be an industry hustler. FORGET ABOUT HIS MUSIC FOR A SECOND. Why can't his haters destroy him? Why do some of the biggest names respect him and do business wit em (by that I'm referring to Jay)?
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On a level playing field, he's no different than Nas or Jada, etc. He must have some kind of army in the shadows to be have the influence he does.
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NEVERMIND IF YOU HATE HIM OR LOVE HIM. Why can't they destroy 50 Cent after all this time???
Real talk from Real Talk...React, 50 holds crazy weight in the streets. Only people who don't know that are people who don't be in the streets. The rap industry is basically controlled by the streets, so if everyone is connected to 50, how can he not control the industry? You can go to almost every major hood out there, and a bunch of the local sets will be aligned with G-Unit. Niggers be blinged the fuck out, got cars for days, money for days, and bang on anybody that says fuck 50.
Whatsup with all the double and triple post.
We might've got tricked today...LoL!
I'm bowing out of this one. This is a prime example of irresponsible journalism. A frivoulous lawsuit, 50 cent and Lil Wayne. Please! Anytime you mention 50 on this site, every G Unit stan in America pops out of the woodwork to co-sign his greatness. But, Nas is the subject of everyone's anger and criticism. Wow! This is the same 50 that stated that George Bush did a good job with Hurricane Katrina. Nas is stating that he will bring the word to the forefront for discussion but he's a fraud. Jay is attempting to revitalize his city but he doesn't care about Black people. Wow! I see we're in Bizarro Sohh NYC today. I think I'll just fall back.
ernest frazier you ignorant monkey ass nigger...50 said that Bush did the best he could do. It was a NATURAL DISASTER. I don't like Bush either, but that's why we have governors and mayors. It's their job to take care of local problems and make sure that the dam would hold in place. What was Bush supposed to do AFTER the shit already happened? Stop being stupid.
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Fuck Nasir Nigger Jones. He ain't trying to do shit except RECYCLE OLD SONGS and put a controversial title out there, to move the SAME OLD RECYCLED SONGS. This nigger care so much he using old lyrics?
Catholic officials in Fort Worth, Dallas said that a priest has the AIDS virus and, even worse, he is one of the church’s more infamous predators. People had long complained about the sexual conduct of Rev. Philip Magaldi and how he acted with young boys and young men. Now, they are going to speed up the process of getting him out of the ministry forever…but…that’s only after finding out he had the disease that there is no cure for. The church had received repeated complains on the Rev. – for years. Now, the police are involved and reports say that he’s been HIV positive AT LEAST since 2003. They say that he’s been getting his swerve on with the kiddies since the mid-90’s. This is the second such case of an HIV-positive priest for the Forth Worth Area.
NEVERMIND IF YOU HATE HIM OR LOVE HIM. Why can't they destroy 50 Cent after all this time???
February 26, 2008 8:41 AM
I do have to respond to this one. Maybe because they're not trying to. Who wants to see another young brother go down? That's it.
Brooklyn B, get the fuck out of here with that shit you ignorant ass monkey lipped nigger. We know the way to cnn.com, if we wanted the news, we'd go read it.
Real Talk says...
Brooklyn B, get the fuck out of here with that shit you ignorant ass monkey lipped nigger. We know the way to cnn.com, if we wanted the news, we'd go read it.
February 26, 2008 8:55 AM
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nigga u must be the fort worth preacher nigga thats why u mad.
You juxing and jiving, fake black panther, want to be Pac, ignorant ass back to the Congo nigger, do you think you and the others of your ilk are accomplishing anything by posting retarded shit like that or putting love africa flyers up on light poles? Why don't you go kill yourself, you nigger.
REACT says...
F#ck what you see on Youtube, there's GOTTA be something on the low that has other artists reacting the way they do. It's one thing to be a studio gangster (which virtually all of them are); but quite another to be an industry hustler. FORGET ABOUT HIS MUSIC FOR A SECOND. Why can't his haters destroy him? Why do some of the biggest names respect him and do business wit em (by that I'm referring to Jay)?
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react
you acting like 50 got more then jay (since u made reference to him) what business deals did jay have with 50? freeway album? the i get money remix?
i'll give 50 his props for having some kind of hustle cause i hate when these "im a hustler" rappers get in the game then wanna cry cause they got jerked instead of gettin on they grind but to say why do jay do business with him, list what these businesses is
Real Talk says...
You juxing and jiving, fake black panther, want to be Pac, ignorant ass back to the Congo nigger, do you think you and the others of your ilk are accomplishing anything by posting retarded shit like that or putting love africa flyers up on light poles? Why don't you go kill yourself, you nigger.
February 26, 2008 9:00 AM
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ladies first
I've read what yall had to say and some of you nigga's is trippin.First things first the only reason 50 was in forbes was cuz of Vitamin Water,that check put him over the top, and second if you think Wayne aint got no fans you trippin(someone said he almost has a million). As far as not selling out arenas maybe you should go to a show cause if you see a sopt where Wayne is on the billing it's pretty much packed if not all the way. As far as this Jay-z shit it's turely sad that most of you niggas hate the man cause he rich and doing something with it he's tryin to turn Brooklyn into the new Manhattan and if the folks getting paid to leave then I'm sure there getting a nice lump sum,thats how business works you niggas give 50 all this love and what the fuck has that nigga ever done for NY besides bring it further down. And to the person who thinks Jay respects 50 and do business with him it's for Jay's own come up that why the I get money remix couldn't come out til after their cd's dropped cuz Jay knew his shit was soon to drop.
@NIMROD
Understood!
@react
You said:On a level playing field, he's no different than Nas or Jada, etc. He must have some kind of army in the shadows to be have the influence he does.
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.yea,jimmy iovine,and a army of security...LoL...
@ AGNOSTIC
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I was gonna question reckless's knowledge on this matter also,but unlike reckless,I'm willing to admit that I don't have full knowlede of the subject matter.isn't it true that the people getting moved out aren't prodominently black and there getting paid to move?
From my understanding,this isn't like the situation in manhattan where columbia university muscled the residents out of there business's and apartments using eminent domain.
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Wassup, mayne!
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Like I said already, this is "business-as-usual." So far it's been the battle between the team owners and the city getting their demands met. We who stand to benefit are looking on and trying to make deals. The businesses want their presence felt, and people like myself are bidding to design and build their structures. It's a constant toss up with the Buildings Commission BUT THE ARENA IS A DONE DEAL, SCHEDULED TO OPEN IN 2 YEARS. Various groups had brought their complaints to the city. But all that has basically been resolved because the city wants this deal to work.
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As far as who is being relocated, understand that the area is far from a slum. My office is a few blocks away. This is a middle-class area and Park Slope and Brooklyn Heights (even more affluent) is adjacent. Now the actual properties along Atlantic Ave may not be the plushest, mark my words when I say that those people are happy to be selling their properties - due to the current housing market.
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So idiot Reckless got it wrong to suppose that it was deep in the hood. It's a pretty well-mixed area - Blacks, Whites, Jews, etc. They're not knocking down the Marcy projects and throwing people on the street.
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WHAT I SAID WAS, this being Brooklyn, the Black population who are so passionate to claim this city hardly showed up for this and missed the opportunity.
Mack, you're a retard.
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1) 50 only got 100 million from vitamin water, but he has over 300 million. So vitamin water gave him all his cash right?
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2) Wayne does not sell out ARENAS, you idiot. A club holds maybe 500-1000 people, that's not Madison Square Garden. Learn the difference and he is NEVER the headliner. Whenever he is, it's a cash money tour and Birdman is eating.
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3) 50 put on a lot of NY dudes. Ask Maino. 50 got him a deal. 50 has a lot of NY dudes on the payroll and I mean A LOT. Why don't you go outside and experience the love that is 50?
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4) All of Jay-Z money came from lowballing Dame to get full control of Rocafella, and Rocawear knowing it was worth a lot more and that he had willing buyers, then turning around and selling it for that 250 million. Jay-Z did some underhanded, sneaky, back door dealing shit. He didn't build an empire dolo by himself and he doesn't have more than 50. That Forbes list was made before all of 50's money was accounted for. When's the last time Jay-Z did anything successfully in music or clothing? Anybody from his labels?
Nimrod says...
@Dareal
I hate to say this but you can't expect people who only talk about money and materialism to not bow down to the power of the dollar. It's like expecting a whore to be noble.
When any of these guys promote their wealth the intent is to tell those who don't have it and want it to bow down.
Beneath the tatoos, gang affiliation, tough talk and all that we're talking about people who put money before principle, honor, righteousness and even their own MASCULINITY in more cases than the average fan can stand to know.
Money is his god. Why wouldn't he submit?
February 26, 2008 8:23 AM
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what up nim
now riddle me this
i saw a youtube interview with jay where he was discussing the advertising thing him and i think chris lightly got and he was talking about he wanted to show black people in a different light, he said something like we dont just walk in record stores and start break dancing.
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the reason why i pointed that out is because WE DONT OWN SHIT not even our image (we can see that in rap). i dont get why jay gets burned EVERYTIME he explores another business venture. barclays?? come the fuck on, we're gonna bitch about hov doing buisness with barclay but not bitch about every other race owning stores in our community?
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hov got the i will not lose campaign which shows sean bell widow and the other BLACK PEOPLE in the ads in positive lights. so to say hov dont like black people or its all about the doe is crazy.
if he did what half of the people on these blogs said then he will still be a roc a fella artist on def jam bitching about lack of promotion
@React
50 is strategic. I don't know about other hoods but in Queens where he's from he has no real street connects. He doesn't need them. He is where everyone wants to be and he manipulates that well.
In music he aligned himself with Em, Dre and Jimmy Iovine. need I say more?
In the hood he throws around the HOPE of getting down with him and street dudes kow tow.
He insulates himself well. He's not in any hood but he routinely signs fringe rappers like Spider Loc and MOP to cover his flank and give the appearance of strong ties to the hood he needs to bamboozle corporate America who thinks he's the gateway to the hood. He's shrewd and plays the game from the neck up. As far as shooters on lock that's a fairy tale. He'd be a fool to indulge on that level and he's no fool.
Peolple have to also understand his support of Bush (republican) and Hillary (Democrat) was just more shrewdness on his part. He doesn't care who's president just so long as they don't turn him into the next Sista Souljah. He makes his money promoting illegal activity and the last thing he wants to do is piss off a president or someone with political power who can stop his cash flow.
Now, this may come as a surprise but the people with real street ties are Murder Inc. You go around the Inc on any given day and you could run into some of NY's most wanted and feared. TRUE story. And no one extorts them by the way. For whatever reason dudes like them and the free access they offer. Irv and his brother don't even have bodyguards. They move around freely as if they don't have a concern and other than the police they don't. Last I remember a notorious stick up dude from Queens named Billy Bang who robbed TI at Ashanti's album release caught a bad one at the next Inc affair he showed up at. E-thugs can talk all the shit they want but truth is stranger than fiction.
A person wanted for the murder of Big L's older brother Lee was arrested up at Def Jam a few years back. He regularly visited the Inc when they were in the same building.
Of course it was the "gangsters" from Dipset who were always up at Rocafella back then who alerted the police but that's what hip hop gangsters do. LOL!
Nobody goes at 50 because they're not built like that and he knows it. The only people he feared in the game was the Inc and they're pretty much irrelevant now due to lack of funds and lack of desire. They don't take him seriously and they can't afford another tangle with the feds.
Real Talk says...
ernest frazier you ignorant monkey ass nigger...50 said that Bush did the best he could do. It was a NATURAL DISASTER. I don't like Bush either, but that's why we have governors and mayors. It's their job to take care of local problems and make sure that the dam would hold in place. What was Bush supposed to do AFTER the shit already happened? Stop being stupid.
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Fuck Nasir Nigger Jones. He ain't trying to do shit except RECYCLE OLD SONGS and put a controversial title out there, to move the SAME OLD RECYCLED SONGS. This nigger care so much he using old lyrics?
February 26, 2008 8:52 AM
I almost bit but I'm not going to.
Jay-Z, James relationship should worry Cavs
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
Feb 25, 4:19 am EST
As Jay-Z made a toast next to his co-host, LeBron James, at a VIP dinner during All-Star weekend, he spoke of branding, about a new world order of celebrity businessmen. They declared this the Two Kings dinner in New Orleans and the star-studded list of invitees included NBA owners and stars, music label executives and A-list performers. Jay-Z talked of a tomorrow when these two monuments to music and basketball will transform the rules of engagement for the iconic performer, one witness said. He talked of making history.
For the Cavaliers officials watching, there had to be something of a collective gulp. They have been uneasy witnesses to a dance between James and Jay-Z, a bond between a generation’s most celebrated entertainer and athlete. These two spend a lot of time together – traveling, talking and sharing big ideas.
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What’s unnerving to Cleveland is that Jay-Z happens to be a part owner of the New Jersey Nets with unlimited access to James’ heart, mind and ambitions. Of course, the Nets are plotting a move to a sparkling new arena in Brooklyn, perhaps as soon as the 2011-2012 season. They’re clearing cap space and planning a pursuit of James when he can opt out of his contract in the summer of 2010.
Cleveland officials won’t talk about James and Jay-Z, but if you were wondering about the franchise’s fear of losing him to the brighter lights and bigger city, understand that the trade owner Dan Gilbert and general manager Danny Ferry made had everything to do with winning now and crushing James’ concerns that Cleveland is unable to surround him with a championship cast.
LeBron doesn’t want to just win titles. His stated wants include becoming sport’s first billionaire athlete. Among his advisors, he counts Warren Buffet. Jay-Z has helped James focus his mind on chasing something bigger than basketball. The question will be this: For the kid out of Akron, will his hometown – will even winning – be enough to hold onto LeBron James?
So yes, Sonny Vaccaro has been fascinated to study the burgeoning partnership since the days Jay-Z – whose real name is Shawn Carter – visited James at Vaccaro’s high school All-American camp in New Jersey. Vaccaro is responsible for some of the most profound marketing marriages in basketball history. He sold Nike on paying college coaches to be billboards for shoe companies, on spending everything they had on North Carolina’s Michael Jordan. When everyone else believed Jordan had a chance to be an excellent pro player, Vaccaro was convinced he would be transcendent for the company.
Vaccaro is out of the game, but forever connecting and consulting with those shaping the landscape. If nothing else, he is sure of this: In two years, Cleveland could be fighting a perfect storm of circumstances.
“I think that LeBron will have to look long and hard about leaving Cleveland,†Vaccaro said. “Dan Gilbert and the city have embraced him. They’ve done everything they can to make a championship-type trade. Danny Ferry did a good job with that. But knowing LeBron and knowing the world as I see it, the most appetizing thing would not be the New York Knicks for him, but the Nets with Jay-Z.
“Jay-Z is the one person that I can put in a parallel universe with LeBron from where they started and where they are now. If LeBron has a role model in life, it’s Jay-Z. I’ve never been around a more perfect match of young genius. What would be better than these two kids in New York?
“Maybe this is only able to happen once, when the money is there in New Jersey, and his contract is up in Cleveland. When you think of the marketing roll that LeBron could be on after winning gold in Beijing, wow. …I’m not sure the sun and moon have ever aligned like this.â€
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LeBron James has stated he wants to become sport’s first billionaire athlete.
Jay-Z is a Grammy Award-winning rapper, the ex-president of a record label, a club owner, a clothier, a hotelier. Now, he has started a new ad company – Translation Advertising. This is the kind of fortune, the kind of legacy, that James is chasing for the long run.
This drive and determination isn’t lost on Gilbert, the Cavaliers owner who absorbed several million more dollars in salary and luxury tax with the trade that brought Ben Wallace, Joe Smith, Wally Szczerbiak and Delonte West to the team on Thursday.
James initially sounded cautious about the trade. After a blowout victory over Memphis on Sunday night, James gushed over its promise. Ferry delivered James shooting and the ultimate wildcard, Wallace. If Wallace has nothing left from his Detroit days, this deal could be doomed. Still, Cleveland feared the status quo in the East. Between the Cavs and the conference’s two best teams, Boston and Detroit, the gap has grown too profound.
Two years ago, the Cavaliers heard Jay-Z’s public position on LeBron’s future and could only imagine what might be said in private. When asked about the possibility of him someday joining the franchise, the Nets’ part-owner paid no mind to league tampering rules and gushed, “How amazing would that be? I tell people all the time, he’s my friend first. If Cleveland is building a championship team around him then my advice is to stay there. If it’s the Nets who are building a championship team that could be around him then my advice is to come to the Nets.â€
The league office noticed the comments, but never leveled a fine for tampering. What can Cleveland do? Complain? No chance the Cavs will try to tell James who his friends can be, especially when they pre-date his days in the NBA.
When it comes to branding, nothing and nowhere could be bigger for James’ global profile than becoming the King of New York. There has always been a belief that his endorsement deals, including Nike, include clauses that trigger bigger payouts if James lands in a major market.
The Nets are clearing cap space for a free-agent class that includes James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, but James is the unmistakable target. So much so, the Nets have an internal business plan for the move into the new Brooklyn arena that includes a modest section on his eventual recruitment, estimates of his marketing worth and the salary-cap space that needs to be cleared for his signing.
This is the kind of advanced planning every team does, but there’s a credibility to the Nets’ pursuit that comes out of Jay-Z’s relationship. As for changing the landscape as iconic branders, it was no coincidence that James showed up at a New York-Cleveland American League division series game in October wearing a Yankees cap. Whatever calls of traitor ensued in Cleveland, the deed was done: Suddenly, the world identified LeBron as a Yankees fan.
Mere months later, Nike has a LeBron-Yankees shoe planned for March release. For those wanting to believe James is setting the stage for a move to the big city, the line of shoes does forward the idea that he wants to be identified with New York.
Between now and the summer of 2010, this promises to be a fascinating story line. Jay-Z has opened LeBron James’ mind to looking far beyond basketball, beyond the traditional journeys to superstardom. Together, they talked about changing everything for the global icon. Between now and 2010, the Cavaliers have to sell LeBron James that all that can still happen in Cleveland.
@ Real Talk:
I see you still only tell half of the story. 1st, read what Essex said again.......Are ya'll really bickering about these nigga's money, Damn these comments are getting so wack I don't even wanna really post.
Will somebody please say something interesting.
February 26, 2008 8:16 AM
Which is basically what I'm saying in regards to Wayne talking bout he won't see 50 becuz of unrelated hip-hop money. What the fuck does that have to do with a hip-hop battle??? Jay-Z/Nas never brung no money up in they disses (other than "You got a 1 hot album every 10 year average" if u really count that). My point is if dudes is really "the best rapper alive"/"the hottest in the game"/ "you wanna hear the worse joke..... I am broke!!!" then why is money the 1st thing to come out ya mouth??? And for the record, you're leaving out a very important detail about 50...... he answers to Jimmy Iovine over at Interscope, which is why he don't fuck with rap too tough anymore. whatever records he doing, he owe Jimmy off the top.
DAMN U NIGGA STUPID IF U THINK WAYNE AND 50 REALLY HAD A PROBLEM IT RAP ENTERTAINMENT WEEZY AND 50 WANT DA MONEY THAT'S IT U CAN HAVE DA BEEF AND AWARDS IT'S BOUT GETTIN PAID TO BOTH OF THESE NIGGAZ
Jay, Jimmy is nobodies boss. He owns a distribution company. 50 is an independent contractor and CEO of G-Unit records. They have a joint venture. To compensate for Jimmy using his resources to distribute the cd's 50 shares a cut of the money. That is not a boss, how your boss is. That is like a NBA player signing a contractor. They are independent. At any time, once the contract is fulfilled 50 can go to any company he wants. He has no boss like you people portray it.
@ Real Talk
No nigga the reason ya'll talking bout these niggas paper is because you on they dicks.
@Brooklyn B
Jay was being politically correct. You like Jay but Real Talk said something truthful, Jay doesn't really care about the plight of black people or rather it simply isn't a priority.
That venture is really the brainchild of Steve Stoute. Steve shows rappers how to pimp the game. He tried with nas but Nas wasn't bright enough and marketable enough.
Basically, celebrity endorsement deals pay a celeb for delivering his fans to the manufacturer. The way Jordan had us buying $200 sneakers that cost 5 bucks to make. We love our black celebs for bending us over sor corporate America. They receive pennies on the dollar and we're left with financial hemorrhoids. LOL!
Not singling Jay out but he's no different from any of the others. It's just business for them. Sometimes we benefit sometimes we don't. Either way it's just a by product of their primary goal... Making money.
We really gotta stop placing false expectations on athletes and entertainers. They're not social activists.
Weezy should start by making a Shook Ones Pt.3...lol
@"Real" Talk...jay-Z is worth around $600 mill, so yeah hes still richer than Fif.
Why does this website hate on rappers/producers/executives conducting big business. Jay is doing what many of us wish we were doing. Having a major influence in boardrooms of huge Fortune 500 and Fortune 250 companies. And stacking heavy paper. Let him do what he do. As far as Wayne, he is giving props where props is due. That's that. The whole object of the so called "game" is to get as much $$$ as possible. So stop hatin on those who are paper chasin. To quote Jay " They paper hatin, i'm paper chasin". What do you'll want?
LIL WAYNE MUST HAVE HAD A THREESOME WITH SOMEBODY MOM AND GIRL SOHH HATE ON WEEZY LIKE HE DOIN SOULJA BOY RAP IT ENTERTAINMENT I GUESS U WANT HIM AND 50 TO SHOOT EACH OTHER UP U SAY RAP BEEF IS STUPID THAN WHEN NIGGA GET ALONG U SAY IT'S DICK RIDIN NIGGA MAKE UP YOUR MIND
@ Real Talk:
No, sir. 50 is "partnered" with Dre and Eminem (Shady/Aftermath). Interscope is the boss of all that shit. There aint no, "50 does what he does" in there. 50 answers to Iovine the same way Dre answers to him, the same way Wayne/Baby answer to Universal becuz they are recording artists. 50 isn't "partnered" with Interscope until you get to talking about G-Unit Records, then 50 is the boss and Iovine is just a "contractor". That shit you said dont even make sense, kid. If 50 got clout, money, and Iovine don't got nothing on him, then he would just buy out his remaining contract becuz he just losing money now putting out albums when he could be doing other ventures. Get ya weight up, homie. EASY
Whoever wrote this shit is on some serious vicoden/coke. Wayne is the king of hip hop right now. All the other rappers are 1000 yards behind him. I went to a Wu tang show in Cali last year and it was ok. Then I went to a wayne show and it was bananas. The dude is lyrically in a class or his own and he doesnt write or have a ghostwriter........
Back to reality. Jay-Z has 1/3rd of that. All of his money came from selling Rocawear and Rocafella. Stop inflating numbers when the Forbes shit was listed on every website.
ROFLMAO!
I love the fact that Reckless is sofaking mad.
"Its too late to hate!" - 50
So, trying to bring jobs and money into the hood is shitting on your own people? How many people you think they're gonna need to run that stadium? Parking, Vendors, Janitors, Security, The surrounding shops, ect. Bringing money and jobs into the hood is shitting on it?
Oh and if you think that Jew-Z has ANY say so on who gets the naming rights to the stadium, you're a damn fool.
I have a Jay & Nas mixtape and they sound horrible on the same records. Maybe if they actually recorded together, but I dont think they mesh well, even on black republicans they didnt mesh well to me, but whatev.
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Wow you're wrong Jay...
50 has G-Unit records which is "signed" DIRECTLY to Interscope. I also have a company that is signed to a distributor so I know how it works. As part of the deal, the distributor takes 50% of your companies stock or profit and it's called a joint venture. All interscope does is distribute for artists. Just like Def Jam and KOCH.
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Now 50 is signed to Em and Dre, but he sold so many records that he was able to rework his contract and he keeps a large part of his profits. The point is, it's called being a contractor. Interscope doesn't control your working hours, doesn't give you health benefits, doesn't do this and that, you do all that shit on your own. You are your own boss, like who ever made the website for SOHH, that guy is a contractor who had an agreement to do this and that for thing long. Get it?
@ the Peace Makers before me:
My fault y'all, I'm not really out to see nobody get shot. I'm a 80s baby, last time I checked, hip-hop was competition..... not money, not jewels, not Forbes, just competition. I didn't think I was asking a whole lot for that nigga Weezy to own up to his claim to be the "best rapper alive since the best retired". That shit aint no giving props.....He pulled a straight son move!!!! He went at Jay, a MUCH richer dude than 50 with prolley 10x as much clout in the game, but you getting sonned by 50????
I can give a shit less about they money and street affiliations, how bout lets get back to why this is hip-hop.
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Whoever wrote this shit is on some serious vicoden/coke. Wayne is the king of hip hop right now. All the other rappers are 1000 yards behind him. I went to a Wu tang show in Cali last year and it was ok. Then I went to a wayne show and it was bananas. The dude is lyrically in a class or his own and he doesnt write or have a ghostwriter........
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You accuse the blogger of being on drugs & yet your hero Wayne is on lean(the dumbest drug ever).And how is lil wayne 1000 yards ahead of others? no classic album...a few decent mixtapes. thats it? about 20 rappers alive that would lyrically eat him. he has bitched out of battling 50 twice!
Fuck it, these ignorant niggers don't understand anything so I'll make it simple. You look in the newspaper or whatever website for a job, you see a sales job that says 30% commission. The salesmen gets 30% profit for helping to sell your product. That is all Interscope does. They get your products on the shelves and in return, you give them a piece of the pie. They are not an "employer" of rappers. That is why there are contracts. An employee can quit any job any any time. It's called "at will" employment and is a law.
Rappers alive who would lyrically slaughter Lil Wayne:
-Andre 3000
-Crooked I
-Royce da 5'9
-Lupe Fiasco
-Ludacris
-Jadakiss
-Nas
-Jay-Z
-Eminem
-Big Boi
-Pharoahe monch
-Talib Kweli
-Papoose
-Skillz
-Ghostface
...tell me when to stop
Real Talk says...
Back to reality. Jay-Z has 1/3rd of that. All of his money came from selling Rocawear and Rocafella. Stop inflating numbers when the Forbes shit was listed on every website.
February 26, 2008 9:49 AM
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Thats my whole point. Jay is cashed out at this point, he sold his companies and is trying to start new ventures. Just like Puffy sold most of bad boy, but he still gets that guap from Sean John. Aint no more Rocafella cash comin Jay's way. 50 still owns all his ventures except Vitamin Water, who he's still being paid to promote and have his own flavor. Why you think Jay is "partnering" on hotels and clubs n shit, trying to create new companies and sell em off. Thats how you get really really rich. lol.
I can see real Gay Talk is on here giving his daily blow job to 50. Yes 50 is wealthy but he also yesterday Hip Hop news. His clothing business dried up (and don't tell me about it made 70 million dollars in revenue - what was the total debt. Corporations that are profitable do not fold.); his artists have absolutely no buzz - none of them. And he barely sold 1.1 mill cd in the US. And yall remember that I told you those crackas will take his money just like the took Micheal Jackson and Tyson. Mark my word! He made a Jewish slur and those Jews don't forget they get even.
Anyway the gimmick is up for that dude and I'm glad because personally I am tired of the soft pop Justin Timberlake - Robin Thicke garbage songs that he make.
And Reckless you are right; Wayne is sucking 50's nuts almost as hard Real Gay Talk sucks 50's dick.
Now to cats who are actually still relevant in the game. Business is dirty and Hov is not a conscious cat. He is my man but his level of consciousness is not great. With that being said though I want to here some additional information before I throw the homie under bus.
Peace to the real!
Not this ugly big lipped monkey nigger again. Actually, his business didn't fold up. He saw the new styles coming out and got different designers, manufacturer, etc etc and is coming with new designs to fit into the new "fitted" style. How's Rocawear going? It hasn't been relevant since 2000. Doesn't matter what the debt was, because it's tax deductible, but clothing doesn't cost that much to make or manufacture.
in other news for the hip-hop heads who actually respect the culture(that excludes fake talk n a few others)...Im hearin the rumour that Pete rock didnt make T.R.O.Y and it was a Dilla beat!! Good grief...can a hiphop fan get any more disturbing news than that(respect to dilla...but)
This news needs confirmation & a new column
THEY LOVE MEEEEE!!! THEY LOVE ME!!! NIGGEEEEEEEEEEEEER
Anytime I hear New Yorkers talk about 50, it really makes me laugh. He has done more damage to rap and the image of black folks thab any other artist has and made a shit load of money for it.
Guess what? That is not genius. White folks have it set up so that you can't make any money in rap unless you portray the uber thug drug dealing gangster. 50 just did what the white folks been wanting a nigga to do. FUCK 50. all this does is reinforce the stereotype that niggas are criminals. this in turn reinforces what white folks think about us and keeps us from getting jobs, loans, and success.
50 Cent could have 100 million dollars ( which he doesn't) and still be a bitch. I don't know one major corporation in which a black rapper would be able to reap any huge benefit from their investments. shit even Jay is a lowly minority owner. None of these bitch made rappers are busting their gun for me or did crimes with me. So
, fuck em.
Real Talk says...
Not this ugly big lipped monkey nigger again. Actually, his business didn't fold up. He saw the new styles coming out and got different designers, manufacturer, etc etc and is coming with new des