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SO THE FUCCCCCC WHAT!!! DAME STOP CRYING AND MOVE THE HELL ON! THIS SHIT IS GOING TO KEEP GOING ON AND ON SO SOHH STOP HEADLINE'N THE SAME STORY EVERY TIME DAME CRIES!......DAMN ALREADY!!!

First Bitches....................!!

Dame needs to move on man, yeah Jay got you, you still rich, get your hustle game up and chill out.These Harlem celebrities are some emotional people.lol. That Ghostface joing is fuego. I've heard most of the New Wu-Tang album. Their is no lead smash single like Triump or Cream but overall the album is definately worht copping and lyrically NOBODY is touching them dudes. They really, really go hard lyrically on there. I just wish it was longer, like another double Lp. but i haven't heard all of it so... Also RIP to Sean Taylor.

PLEASE STOP BLACK ON BLACK CRIME AND SUPPORTING IGNORANT MUSIC. IT DESTROYS OUR PEOPLE AND OUR BOTH SIMULTANEOUSLY.

Peace to Chicago, all my muslims out there and everybody that not caught up in the hype and is real to self!

p.s. Damn i heard that TI got caught up with 3 other gun charges after he copped his first felony and they release him without being charged. That sounds like a snitch to me?

Many of you today will come after but none before me........................!

You beat me out while i was bullshitting telling these chicks to stop worshipping my body while i was trying to type.lol. Damn now my post is somewhat tarnished.

Oh well. I'm the most important blogger on this site anyway.

niggers

LIL WHOOOPI?.L MA O!!!!!!!!!!

IM NOT MAD! IM HAPPY YOU STOLE ALL MY MONEY!! JAY Z THE AMERICAN GANGSTER WITH MOB CONNECTIONS. WASHING ALL THE MONEY! YOU KNOW COVERING UP THE MURDERS MOLESTATIONS KIDNAPPINGS AND CONSPIRACY!! IM NOT CONCERNED WITH IT!! I WANT YOU TO GO TO JAIL SEAN CARTER!! YOU KNOW WHATS EVENTUALLY GONNA HAPPEN!! WE KNOW NOW ITS REALLY ALL MY MONEY!! LOLOL!! GOODLUCK!! I AINT DAME!! NO DISRESPECT! AND WE WAS NEVER PARTNERS!! YOU WAS A FAN A PHONY A SNAKE A PUSSY A STAN!! YOU AND YOUR SHORTY!! GOODLUCK!! SHE BRAGGING IN HER VIDEO PUTTING THE KID AND GIRL IN THE TRUNK!! YOU NIGGAS IS ALL DONE!! FUCK THE RAP GAME!! NIGGA THIS MOE!! SO BELIEVE ME WE ENIMIES!!

Dame need to STFU. It's his own fault he's not down with the rebuild. He would have been in the ROC boys video like everybody else if he wouldn't have co-signed Cam'ron's gay ass press relese last year.

Nigga if you the ultimate huslter why did you get hustled.

You see,I ain't even knw what I think right now,so dont ask me what I think of HOV.I mean...the man is thinkin like that...he thinks at his own time while I such his dick like that.R.O.C. bitch,fuck 50!!!

All ya'll talkin all this shit about Dame, but let ya Nigga turn on you and let's see how long you talk about it! i'm sick of people tellin this man to "get over it". if that was my man i would still be mad too! the ROC was like a Fam, (well thats what Dame looked at it like) and Jay just kicked him out. Fuck that, Bicth all you want Dame i know i would.

I agree with Essex. He got hustled like a straight up bitch and now he's crying like a bitch. Damn!

Dame need to get over it. He not working wit Hov no more so he need to figure out how to make his money and quit talking on stuff he keep saying he isn't worried about. He said he wasn't discussing business with friends but that's all he does. Hov had a song with a verse mentioning the situation but this dude come up wit something every week

Damn Dame learn how to knit or something b it's over. Jim Jones, Dame Dash, DeHaven all need to start a support group together for their future without Jay-Z and get off his nut sack. Chalk that shit up like a man and make money nigga. He should not have got in the postion to let Jay "screw him over" in the 1st place. Trust yourself for now on.

its easy to say get over it, but 1, that niggas seed is jays godson, and 2 u need to appreciate how they came up, aint on no, release one catchy dance song and they blow, they grinded fo years. 3 also, its much easier for jay to move on cos he got the better end of the deal. dame defiantely trying to do him, im sure people ask him the questions and he just answer, nothin wrong wit that. had he let had jay had them reasonable doubt masters like jay wanted, it coulda gone a whole different way

"But I can't blame him. When someone is supposed to be your right hand, how do you get over something like that?

You don't."

i agree tho,but lyk they say,there's never one type of business man.them sh**s come in all sorts:considerate, loyal, brutal, ruthless,etc etc....
jay jus happens to be one of the last two i mentioned (or both).now dame saltier than 50 after the showdown.atleast 50 lost no money.
p.s:american gangster's "no hook" is heat

Thats why balck folks have the problems that we have right now.WE ARE NOT LOYAL TO ANYTHING,NOT EVEN SELF.LOOK AT IT FOR WHAT IT IS THE R.O.C WAS BLACK OWNED AND OPPERATED AND JAY SOLD OUT TO THE WHITE OWNED BIG CORPERATION JUST BECAUSE HE LET HIS EMOTIONS GET IN THE WAY.A TRUE LOYAL FRIEND COULD AND WOULD HAVE WORKED OUT AMMICABLE TERMS FOR BOTH PARTIES,BUT JUST LIKE A BITCH THAT IS TIRED OF BEING LESS POWERFUL THAN HER HUSBAND HE RAN TO THE MAN TO SAVE HIM.B.I.T.C.H A..S.S N.I.G.G.A.THE REAL REASON THAT HE DONT WANT TO GIVE UP THE MIC IS BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING TO GO HOME TO DUDE HAS NO LOYAL FRIENDS,THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET NOTICED WHEN HE STOPS RAPPIN ITS DONE,DUDE AINT NO BARRY GORDIE OR QUINCY JONES OR L.A REID OR JD NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOU UNLESS YOU ARE RAPPIN AND THATS OVER AMERICAN GANGSAT WAS SUB PAR.

Dame is the unloyal one. He tried to sneak his man's and them into the company when jay was on vacation.

Dame is forgetting that he tried to diss Hov right after the split. At that point it was business, there was no beef. but then Dame got with Dipset and tried to diss the dude who he just said was his best freind.

Niggas is shady

Dame need to push on and man up. He shoulda spoke on this shit when it first happen. He should know u really can't trust a muthafucka anyway kinda goes back to that saying in NY Harlem make it Brooklyn take it he should have always kept that in the back of his mind business is cutthroat and u should always expect the unexpected. But I always like Hov better anyway Dame is just like his Dipset flunky's more comical than anything. That Gangsta Gangsta track was nice might have ta cop his CD
Detroit stand up
Murda Mitten rise

Dame needs to stop. Aint he the one that started this shit by making Cam president while Jay was on vaction. Now "When someone is supposed to be your right hand, how do you get over something like that?"

Bad things happen to good dudes. As a person from the streets. I can tell you that good, loyal friends are hard to come by. If you wait on them long enough, you'll see the snakes in the grass. Good luck Dame.

Check out my music on myspace.com/LifersEnt. Add me as a friend, one lucky female will receive a coach. One dude will win a Footlocker gift certificate. Brought to you by Lifers Ent.

Dame you got rich off other people talents so just be happy dude. You never rapped or produced a beat and you got millions. Dame you still winning so chill

Ya on the real, Mayo is right, black folk CANT run business there's no loyalty or structure. I ain't arguing that Jay aint one of the greatest rappers (or the greatest rapper) of all time but come on you and dude's grinded for years to get where ya are and ya goin do him like that?!

I actually feel sorry for Dame. Dame (aka the business man) got hustled by Jay Z (aka the worker) in front of the whole world. I know Dame feels really stupid . . .I know I would. But he do needs to get over it. Him and his big mouth is worse that all my ex-girl friends I shitted on.

Damon Dash must have homosexual tendencies to be still talking about Sean Carter all this time, damn homey!! If you did not go behind Jay-Z's back & try n make Cam'Ron vp in the first place, none of this would have happened. if u were tht close to Jay,u shud hav known that Jay n Cam did not get along.

Dame Dash...moveon.org dawg....its life, people grow apart, this is not high school homie. Dam u looker gayer than baby n wayne rite now

I guess he misses that Roc bread...lol

Mel Nitty says...
Dame needs to stop. Aint he the one that started this shit by making Cam president while Jay was on vaction. Now "When someone is supposed to be your right hand, how do you get over something like that?"

November 28, 2007 8:30 AM
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people always 4get to mention that

GATES says...
Bad things happen to good dudes. As a person from the streets. I can tell you that good, loyal friends are hard to come by. If you wait on them long enough, you'll see the snakes in the grass. Good luck Dame.

Check out my music on myspace.com/LifersEnt. Add me as a friend, one lucky female will receive a coach. One dude will win a Footlocker gift certificate. Brought to you by Lifers Ent.

November 28, 2007 8:37 AM

are you kidding me forget what dame says did you here that ghostface shit feat. meth and chef blow the horns rewind that back!!!!!!!!!!

What I want to know is how did Jay screw him over, from what I heard, Rocafella was sold to Def Jam, and the three of them split the money, and then when Jay negotiated his deal with Def Jam, part of the deal is that he remained in control of Rocafella. So all dame is really mad about is that Jay is a better business man than he is. I guess he would be happy if Def Jam owned Rocafella instead of Jay. I think Dame is just hating and needs to get over it, he got rich off of Jay.

How quickly we forget. They sold half Rocafella years back to Defjam. A couple years later they were supposed to sell the other half and that's what happened. Dame did a lot of shady shit like trying to make Cam VP while Jay was on vacation. When Jay was gettin offers from other labels to run them it was Defjam who came to him and said we will give you your masters and the Rocafella name. Jay in turn went to Dame and Biggs and wanted to have sole possession of his masters to Reasonable Doubt in exchange for giving them the Rocafella name back. They said no, so Jay took the offer from Defjam and the rest is history. So there was alot more to it. And Dame is now tryin to rewrite history, but that shit ain't flyin over here.

Dame is lame..he really needs to move the fuck on because Jay clearly has...

I cant stand Dame cause I hate dudes that are incapable of growing hair!

NO, SOHH.COM IS LAME...
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Why don't these blog authors find another topic! Wasting time on Dame and Saigon! If all else fails, hate on 50! Y'all need to learn a little from the other hip hop sites. Cuz you know that the only thing that keeps this NYC blog poppin is when we bloggers start our own topics... which are usually 10X more insightful than the flunkies hired at sohh.com
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I MEAN, DAYUM! THIS IS ALL U GOT FOR A NYC TOPIC???
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Where's PZ at when we need him?
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Do a mixtape review or shed some light on the huge underground hip hop scene in NYC... (why don't y'all work with that)

dame can't ova the situation because everyday he gets up , he hear the name jay-z, if jay had fell off i don't think dame would be talking bout him like that, the thing is dame said he made hov but really if hov wasn't hot dame wouldn't be known for shit they wouldn't be no rocawear or anything else it would just be rocafella records, the name jayz is a brand let's face it the nigga came up , dame should try to turn these harlem dipshit into the roc, oh wait a minute they ain't hot..................baaaaaaaaaalin

I can understand why dame is hurt but, he never mentions the fact that he tried to make camron president behind jay's back. Like that shit wasn't a big reason why they fell out. Not to mention he started signing a bunch of tax write offs. MOP, NOREAGA, ODB. Just a bunch of random niggaz.

Dame needs to stop answering these questions, and finally put this shit behind him. He of all people should know that its business and not about friendships. Corporate America is EXTREMELY shady and doesn't allow much room for loyal friendships over bad business relationships. He should ask himself what did he do wrong and how can he grow from it. I understand his ego is hurt, but crying over spilled milk and doing nothing positive for him at this point.

Poor Dame...

"Sensitive thugs. Y'all all need hugs..."

Yall need to read that nigga Essex blog because he got Dame snuck the shitty ass dipshit in while Jay-z was vacation with B and everybody know Harlem and Brooklyn don't get along so there was no loyalty there so as soon as Jigga got the chance he got pay back and the only reason dame is mad because Jigga got to them before he could

You could tell Dame wish he was still in the music business. The position he is in right now, he would have to start from almost scratch and when you were once on top, that is a bad look.

Dame had to put those harlem cats in there because he too is from Harlem. Jigga was basically the only one going platinum until he brought in Cam and Kanye to the Roc. Dame was brains and Jigga the talent. Def Jam would be doing a whole lot better if BOTH of Them were in charge.

Haboogie says...
You could tell Dame wish he was still in the music business. The position he is in right now, he would have to start from almost scratch and when you were once on top, that is a bad look.

Dame had to put those harlem cats in there because he too is from Harlem. Jigga was basically the only one going platinum until he brought in Cam and Kanye to the Roc. Dame was brains and Jigga the talent. Def Jam would be doing a whole lot better if BOTH of Them were in charge.

November 28, 2007 10:34 AM
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how is def jam doing bad?

MOST PEOPLE ON THIS SITE SAYS TO GET OVER IT. HOW CAN YOU GET OVER SOMETHING THAT IS DELICATE AS THIS? MAN THEY GOT SO MUCH MONEY INVESTED THAT YOU JUST CAN'T WALK AWAY UNLESS YOU HAPPEN TO BE FRIENDS. WHY DO YOU THINK THE RUSSEL AND THAT UGLY EX WIFE IS NOT BREAKIN UP THE BABY AND PHAT FARM COMPANY. TOO MUCH MONEY ON THE TABLE TO WALK AWAY. DAME ( I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE) BUT MAYBE HE WALK AWAY FROM THE TABLE DUE TO THEIR FRIENDSHIP. THEN WHEN HE FINDS OUT THAT HE IS NOT "TRUE BLUE" FRIEND, HE VENTED OUT. THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. SOUNDS LIKE A NASTY BUISNESS DIVORCE. BUT TO HIS DEFENSE. MAN YOU CAN SEE DAME AT THE BOXING PPV WITH THOSE PROMOTERS. HOMEY STILL HAS HIS FACE OUT THERE. BUT THAT HAS TO BE SOMETHING SHADY IN REGARDS OF ROCA FELLA. OH YEA. AMERICAN GANGSTER WAS USED WITH DRUG MONEY. IT WILL COME TO LIFE AND THE MONEY MADE FROM THIS MOVIE WILL BE SNACTHED BY THE GOVERMENT. PLEASE BELIEVE IT.

mayo says...
Thats why balck folks have the problems that we have right now.WE ARE NOT LOYAL TO ANYTHING,NOT EVEN SELF.LOOK AT IT FOR WHAT IT IS THE R.O.C WAS BLACK OWNED AND OPPERATED AND JAY SOLD OUT TO THE WHITE OWNED BIG CORPERATION JUST BECAUSE HE LET HIS EMOTIONS GET IN THE WAY.A TRUE LOYAL FRIEND COULD AND WOULD HAVE WORKED OUT AMMICABLE TERMS FOR BOTH PARTIES,BUT JUST LIKE A BITCH THAT IS TIRED OF BEING LESS POWERFUL THAN HER HUSBAND HE RAN TO THE MAN TO SAVE HIM.B.I.T.C.H A..S.S N.I.G.G.A.THE REAL REASON THAT HE DONT WANT TO GIVE UP THE MIC IS BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING TO GO HOME TO DUDE HAS NO LOYAL FRIENDS,THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET NOTICED WHEN HE STOPS RAPPIN ITS DONE,DUDE AINT NO BARRY GORDIE OR QUINCY JONES OR L.A REID OR JD NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOU UNLESS YOU ARE RAPPIN AND THATS OVER AMERICAN GANGSAT WAS SUB PAR.
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U got to be a hater or jay prolly took your girl or something. For u 2 say that american gangsta was sub par u goota be hating. Yeah he might of done Dame wrong but that liofe if Dame was the hustler he proclaimed to be he would not have been whinning like this all the time. He needs to move and try and find some other wat to make money and humble himself.
Live from Trinidad!!!!
Haters kill yourself PLEASE!!!!!

@ Brooklyn B

Besides what Kanye generated for himself and Jigga being a self promoting Jugganot, who else at Def Jam rapping-wise is making any noise? It's definitely not the Def Jam of old, that's for sure. They are making most of their money on R&B acts eg. Rihanna & Neyo.

"I'm hearing mothafuckas saying they made Hov, made Hov say ok, make another Hov." - JayZ

i gotta listen to Beans album in depth to pass judgement on.....

Styles album does sound like it's commin along great from the tracks i heard as well.....

so is Ghostface solo shit....

i don't blame Dame for still talkin about this, it's alot of shit that has been said over the past 3yrs, but theres also a shitload of things probably never discussed between the two that he just want/needs some real clarity to and not some "politcal" type answer....

Peace!

"It's not a diss song, it's just a real song" - Jay-Z

Dame put them harlem cats on because he is a loyal cat.He started Cam career and he felt like if the lil homie needed his help he was going to give it to them.Whoever said that was the downfall of Rocafella,and the start of Cocafella.Jay dont know anything about loyalty so he would not understand why that was dont,at the end of the day you was still splitting ownership profits with Dame and Bigg sp it wasnt taking no money out of your pockets,that move put more money in his pocket,because them niggas had platnum clientel.If jay is such a made man where he is from why he always run to Harlem to get the heat 1st Dame now Diddy.Kline and D-haven aint lie they knows dude best,even he said dude was and is a B.I.T.C.H.

The Divorce is final. Jay-Z gets the house and the kids.

What I don't understand is what the fuck was Dame's motivation when he tried to bring dipset into the fold?
I mean signing Cam is one thing but Making him prez...... hell to the Naw.

And does anyone remember when Cam first signed to the R.O.C. and was complaining that he didn't have a track with Jigga......oh non self sufficient ass.

Just to pull a 360 and diss him after the divorce.
What happened to the days of a crew standing strong and having total support of each other.

Dame and Dipset should have just layed back and went shopping until Jay was able to bring everybody back which I think he had all intentions of doing.

Beyonce had to take a restraining order out against Sandra rose. No wonder why Sandra obsesses over her & Jay every day. Disgusting!!!:

Matthew Knowles:
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According to reports, Beyonce fears for her safety after allegedly being stalked by Sandra Rose, 46, who began stalking and harassing her in 2005.

According to sources close to Beyonce, Rose, a photographer specializing in celebrity events, was commissioned to photograph a party following a Destiny’s Child concert in 2005. Rose introduced herself to Beyonce and a conversation followed. Following their brief meeting, Rose began sending nude pictures of herself and sexually explicit emails to Beyonce’s publicist offering to perform [sexual act] on Beyonce and saying that she wanted “a relationship” with Beyonce.

After Beyonce and her publicist declined her advances, Rose reportedly became enraged and began a campaign of threatening emails, phone calls, and faxes to Beyonce’s publicist and her management company.

Beyonce was reportedly so distressed by Rose’s harassment that she cancelled a month of album promotion and left the country out of fear for her safety.

According to sources, Rose’s harrasment of Beyonce is sexually-charged and may escalate to violence.

“Ms. Rose’s attempts to contact Beyonce often contain disturbing sexual references and graphic sexual language,” says sources.

In the restraining order Beyonce may request that Rose stay at least 300 feet from her as well as her family and employees, and be barred from attending her July 20 concert at Phillips Arena.

Sources close to the incident agree that a restraining order is prudent in the situation. “Her fascination with Beyonce has grown into an obsession that we fear may grow into something much worse. If given the opportunity we fear that she may harm Beyonce.”

BTW: Damn sounds real pu$$yish right now!

Ayo son, Dame is that nigga b. U know us New York niggas are crabs in a bucket, and we hate to see another nigga makin quap without us yo. But my mans said he out freestyle battled Dame dash on the subway the other day yo, word to my moms.

I always thought the Second Verse on "Lost Ones" was about Jay & Dame... hmm...

Haboogie says...
@ Brooklyn B

Besides what Kanye generated for himself and Jigga being a self promoting Jugganot, who else at Def Jam rapping-wise is making any noise? It's definitely not the Def Jam of old, that's for sure. They are making most of their money on R&B acts eg. Rihanna & Neyo.

November 28, 2007 10:46 AM
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damn i forgot i was waiting for a response
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didnt jeezy go plat?
didnt fab go gold?
didnt luda go plat?
freeway album i only hear good reviews
ghost face dropped 3 albums 2 of them in one year
and lets not 4get that fab was traded for musiq who had a sick album (that didnt mean nuffin' but still,lol)
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def jam is making more noise now then they did b4 jay, a matter of fact who is really fucking with def jam now?

Jay-z
Lost Ones
I heard muthaffuckers sayin? they made Hov?

Made Hov say ?OK, so, make another Hov??

Niggas wasn?t playin? they day role

So we parted ways like Ben and J-Lo

I shoulda been did it, but I been in a daze though

I put friends over business end of the day though

But when friends?business interest is day-glo

Ain?t nuffin left to say though, I guess we forgot what we came for

Shoulda stayed in food and beverage, too much flossing

Too much Sam Rothstein, I ain?t a bitch but I gotta divorce them

Hov had to get the shallow shit up off him

And I ain?t even want to be famous

Niggas is brainless to unnecessarily go through these changes

And I don?t even know how I came to this

Except that fame is the worst drug known to man

It?s stronger than heroin, when you can look in the mirror like ?there I am?

And still not see what you become

I know I?m guilty of it too, but not like them

You lost one...

Chorus

Lose one, Let go to get one
Get one, lose some to win some
Story of a champion
Sorry, i'm a champion
Ya Lost One

[Verse 2]

I don?t think it?s meant to be (B?)

For she loves her work more than she does me

And honestly at 23 I would probably love my work MORE than I did she

So we ain?t we, it?s me and her

Cause what she prefers over me is work

And that?s where we differ, so I have to give her

Free time?even if it hurts

So breathe, mami, it?s deserved

You?ve been put on this Earth to be all you can be like the Reserves

And me? My time in this army is served

So I have to allow she, HER, time to serve

The time?s now for her, in time she?ll mature

And maybe we can be we again, like we were

Finally, my time?s too short to share

And I ask her now it aint fair?

So yea she lost one

[Verse 3]

My nephew died in the car I bought

So I'm under the belief it?s partly my fault

Close my eyes and squeeze, try to block that thought

Place any burden on me, but PLEASE NOT THAT LORD

But time don?t go back, it goes forward

Can?t run from the pain, go towards it

Some things can?t be explained what caused it

Such a beautiful soul, so pure (shit?)

Gonna see you again, I?m sure of it

Till that time, little man I?m nauseous

Your girlfriend?s pregnant, the Lord?s gift?

Almost lost my faith, that restored it

It?s like having your life restarted

Can?t wait for your child?s life to be apart of it

So now I?m childlike waitin? for a gift

To return, when I lost you, I lost it

A New York Nigga says...
Ayo son, Dame is that nigga b. U know us New York niggas are crabs in a bucket, and we hate to see another nigga makin quap without us yo. But my mans said he out freestyle battled Dame dash on the subway the other day yo, word to my moms.

November 28, 2007 11:28 AM

That's Black people in general, not just in NY, but any ghetto in AmeriKKKa

info4you says...
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Wow, who didnt know Sandra Rose and Gyant were stalkers? Gyants already beenn arrested in fulton county for that shit, the fuckin freak and then he IP banned me when I exposed his faggot ass.(II)

Fuckin SOHH STALKER

Jay and Dame came out a couple of months after it happened and told both there sides of the story in XXl and the Source. And at that time...the stories matched up about the mutual split...now dame is losing money and salty, he's trying to get sympathy...Dame Dash is pathetic....

Dude, didn't we have 60 pounds of pot? Wed Nov 28, 7:27 AM ET
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TAMPA, Fla. - The Florida Highway Patrol says anyone missing two big bags of pot can call their Tampa area office. A crew picking up litter from along Interstate 4 near Tuesday morning made an unusual find: two big plastic garbage bags stuffed with freshly harvested marijuana.
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FHP Trooper Larry Coggins says the 60 pounds of pot might be worth around $54,000 on the street. It probably fell off or was thrown from a car on the interstate.
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The plants appeared freshly picked and some had intact roots.
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Coggins says it's not the largest amount of pot ever dumped along a roadside, but it's certainly not a common find.
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damn! my eyes are starting to tear up,lol

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Brooklyn B says...
Dude, didn't we have 60 pounds of pot? Wed Nov 28, 7:27 AM ET
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TAMPA, Fla. - The Florida Highway Patrol says anyone missing two big bags of pot can call their Tampa area office. A crew picking up litter from along Interstate 4 near Tuesday morning made an unusual find: two big plastic garbage bags stuffed with freshly harvested marijuana.
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FHP Trooper Larry Coggins says the 60 pounds of pot might be worth around $54,000 on the street. It probably fell off or was thrown from a car on the interstate.
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The plants appeared freshly picked and some had intact roots.
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Coggins says it's not the largest amount of pot ever dumped along a roadside, but it's certainly not a common find.
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damn! my eyes are starting to tear up,lol
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Naw man, those were the shwag plants, they had spiderwebs n mold n shit. I kept all the goodies.

EReal says...
info4you says...
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Wow, who didnt know Sandra Rose and Gyant were stalkers? Gyants already beenn arrested in fulton county for that shit, the fuckin freak and then he IP banned me when I exposed his faggot ass.(II)

Fuckin SOHH STALKER

November 28, 2007 12:04 PM
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let'em no ereal
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i dont even go on sohh atl no more cause of that sissy
and sandra "i hate jay z guts" rose that bitch dont even put comments under any articles about hov no more cause people be telling her how much of a hater she is.
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shit fuck around sandra rose and gyant might be the same person, cause they damn sure got the same qualities

@Ereal
yo, everytime i hear about weed being bagged up and thrown some where it put tears in my eyes.
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most recently though this mother fucka had like 20 pounds from texas sent to his fake "job" and when he went to get it he aint no them boys was already waiting
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stop with the weed abuse!!!
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dont be mean, smoke the green

What's goin on blog, it's me...PZ. Signin in, and signin out for the last time.
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I know we go round on here and sometimes the discussion is good, sometimes the discussion is something other than good, but it's always some kind of discussion.
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And I know some of ya'll like to throw salt on a saint and dish dirt when it's brought to light about any man (or woman) of God "falling into sin."
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Well, ya boy PZ is human...and though I'm a child of God, I'm still bound in the flesh. So with that, comes the same desires, temptations, etc that everybody go through. I know ya'll got jokes and comments about SEALS Ministryz and the work we doin, but real talk...God is really using usin a major major way, and has placed us in positions on high, and continues to open doors. Now...this is where the reasons for my departure come in.
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As of late, I been gettin attacked on the spiritual level to a degree that the flesh just ain't handlin too well. I recognize it as spiritual, but at the same time know and realize that I'm still human. So I'm really having to refocus my energy at myself and my walk and relationship right now. God's work is too important for me to allow myself to get in between and cause any speed bumps or to bring shame upon the name of God by my actions. So right now, I'm going through a season of repentence. Of course, repentence must be a way of life...but you gotta understand the spiritual battle. When you break free from a demon, when it comes back...he brings his homeboys with him and it ain't no joke. And I'm battlin some serious demons right now, one's that I've fought off under God's grace, but who are now finding cracks in my armor and tryin to bust on through.
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Bottom line, I'm out. Time to get my focus back...get back in the Word like I should be and like He desires, and get my priorities back in line. I can't afford to mess up God's purpose in my life and SEALS Ministryz because of my own foolishness, the consequences are too great.
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Why am I typing this? Well, alot of ya'll think that Christians is supposed to be perfect, and I ain't never had no problem being an open book. So yeah...we still go through things, but the difference is..we are to accept our faults and turn from them. Not deny they exist.
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So ya'll stay blessed! I might be back, might not. Receive Jesus in your heart and trully begin to live. And you can always contact me at any time at my websiste linked to my name, or in email at:

mrpeezy@yahoo.com

Keep the discussions alive but also put walk to that talk. Words ain't got feet to mobilize and arms to make change...they need a body.

CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
S.E.A.L.S. Ministryz Co-founder

1 Timothy 1: 15Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst. 16But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life. 17Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

@ Brooklyn B

Ghostface flopped ( surprisingly because I like him)
Fab was inherited. Normal numbers.
Jeezy was also somewhat inherited and he made his own noise.
Freeway as it stands now is a flop.
Luda is Luda. He always made noise and Jay didn't help him

Is Jigga a great MC. Yes. Is Jigga a good business man? Yes. When it comes to running a record label and finding and helping talent, is he good? Not really. Remember, he supported and put out Lady Sovereign real quick after one meeting but could do that with Joe Buddens, or put any money up for Redman or Meth for that matter. When it comes to helping and finding talent, all I am saying is Dame would've helped out a lot. The could blame him basically for the Dip movement taking full swing. He put Kanye on when Jay didn't believe in him. The rest, as they say, is history.

dont be mean, smoke the green
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LOL!

PEACE PZ! ILL SEE YOU IN HELL! LMMFAO!

"I'm hearing mothafuckas saying they made Hov, made Hov say ok, make another Hov." - JayZ

dame did...it was Kayne West and the Diplomats.

Haboogie says...
@ Brooklyn B

Ghostface flopped ( surprisingly because I like him)
Fab was inherited. Normal numbers.
Jeezy was also somewhat inherited and he made his own noise.
Freeway as it stands now is a flop.
Luda is Luda. He always made noise and Jay didn't help him

Is Jigga a great MC. Yes. Is Jigga a good business man? Yes. When it comes to running a record label and finding and helping talent, is he good? Not really. Remember, he supported and put out Lady Sovereign real quick after one meeting but could do that with Joe Buddens, or put any money up for Redman or Meth for that matter. When it comes to helping and finding talent, all I am saying is Dame would've helped out a lot. The could blame him basically for the Dip movement taking full swing. He put Kanye on when Jay didn't believe in him. The rest, as they say, is history.

November 28, 2007 12:19 PM
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nah, you aint hearing me
or i wasnt as clear
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fuck meth and red str8 up cause they problems aint start with hov. and lets not 4get that GHOST is wu so is meth, ghost fucks with jay, meth dont, ghost didnt SELL but was still able to drop another album at the end of the year and another album in december, PLEASE tell me who else or what company is doing that?
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and he signed jeezy so it doesnt matter if jeezy made his own buzz or not, a matter of fact isnt a artist supposed to make himself hot?
i dont like lil wayne but WAYNE makes wayne hot, not cash money, not the hots boyz, not baby.
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and jay only help who want to grind, when bleek 1st came out he said jay was no where, no sessions, no beat selection nothing and in my opinion bleek 1st album was the shit (outta the others,lol)
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joe budden? you HAVE HAVE HAVE to read the interview he gave on allhiphop or xxlmag.com where he basically said he wasnt giving def jam NO MUSIC, and lets not 4get budden 1st album dropped when 2000- 01, so jay wasnt even in the picture.
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and put kanye on? even kanye said he was wack and he guess if the album was corny then damn would just put cam on all the tracks.
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bottom line the artist that fucks with hov is eating
fab
jeezy
nas
ghost
neyo
dream
rihanna
luda
and whoever else im forgetting
freeway
beans
but sales wise if they fans aint buying it that have nothing to do with hov (refer to LL).
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but answer this
what other company is doing it like def jam?

AY, PZ...
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All I've got to say about your "retirement from the blogs" is you beat me to the punch... SERIOUSLY.
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Remember that discussion we had on here about "Christian" Hip Hop and my opinions regarding it (generally against the concept)? Well, that got me thinking about the "mixing" I'm doing myself... and I thought I'd better step off myself or else I'm being the real hypocrite.
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The common blogger comes on here to make a one-liner, whether it's really from their heart/mind or it's just what they want others to hear. Ya know, it's anonymous, nobody really know each other, and it's all about just having fun with the music.
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But when we were pressed to it, you found out that tons of the regs on this blog have a Christian/church/religious background. And the principles that stand for make it diametrical opposites to this here music we are listening to and talking about. That's what I was going at you with, but it's what I needed to preach to myself.
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(Thinkin...)

Brooklyn B says...

but answer this
what other company is doing it like def jam?

November 28, 2007 12:31 PM

SEALS Ministryz Bitches!!!!!

Opps!! See yall the saint be black slidin, that's why the good state of Texas doesn't allow me within 100 feet of male minors. Y'all be blessed.

JESUS LIVES!
PZ

LOLOL @ that letter from PZ like this nigga is Saigon or some shit...i hope I had at least some minor part in that ethering...be gone PZ! SEALz are wack nigga just like you!

BLOGGIN IS FUN... IT'S A RELEASE FROM THE PRESSURE...
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I run a small business right here in Brooklyn and love "escaping" from the pressure every now and then. About 3 months ago is when I got into posting comments on these blogs, mainly due to irritation at the knuckleheads who were posting idiotic, non-sensical comments on something that I (used to) love... Hip Hop (like the Common joint).
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It's been just that, escapism; a way to get away from the stress during a hectic day. An interest. It's anonymous and it is supposed to only be about the music and culture. But when the faith matters came up, even by my own disagreement of the mixing of secular and Christian, I got convicted... with myself!
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This is probably not what you're going through. In all honesty, in the very beginning I too became irritated by some of the little kids on here, but learned to maintain my "grown-man" even when clowns were clowning. Still, I don't know what type of demons you wuz going up against.
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DAYUM. IT'S BACK TO THE REAL WORLD... But it was inevitable that this would happen. There's a time for fun and games, but there's also a limit; we all know what's really important.
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I'M RIGHT BEHIND YOU, B.I.C.; although for different reasons.

@ REACT

I like how you ducked out yesterday nigga...

PZ says...
What's goin on blog, it's me...PZ. Signin in, and signin out for the last time.
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I know we go round on here and sometimes the discussion is good, sometimes the discussion is something other than good, but it's always some kind of discussion.
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And I know some of ya'll like to throw salt on a saint and dish dirt when it's brought to light about any man (or woman) of God "falling into sin."
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Well, ya boy PZ is human...and though I'm a child of God, I'm still bound in the flesh. So with that, comes the same desires, temptations, etc that everybody go through. I know ya'll got jokes and comments about SEALS Ministryz and the work we doin, but real talk...God is really using usin a major major way, and has placed us in positions on high, and continues to open doors. Now...this is where the reasons for my departure come in.
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As of late, I been gettin attacked on the spiritual level to a degree that the flesh just ain't handlin too well. I recognize it as spiritual, but at the same time know and realize that I'm still human. So I'm really having to refocus my energy at myself and my walk and relationship right now. God's work is too important for me to allow myself to get in between and cause any speed bumps or to bring shame upon the name of God by my actions. So right now, I'm going through a season of repentence. Of course, repentence must be a way of life...but you gotta understand the spiritual battle. When you break free from a demon, when it comes back...he brings his homeboys with him and it ain't no joke. And I'm battlin some serious demons right now, one's that I've fought off under God's grace, but who are now finding cracks in my armor and tryin to bust on through.
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Bottom line, I'm out. Time to get my focus back...get back in the Word like I should be and like He desires, and get my priorities back in line. I can't afford to mess up God's purpose in my life and SEALS Ministryz because of my own foolishness, the consequences are too great.
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Why am I typing this? Well, alot of ya'll think that Christians is supposed to be perfect, and I ain't never had no problem being an open book. So yeah...we still go through things, but the difference is..we are to accept our faults and turn from them. Not deny they exist.
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So ya'll stay blessed! I might be back, might not. Receive Jesus in your heart and trully begin to live. And you can always contact me at any time at my websiste linked to my name, or in email at:

mrpeezy@yahoo.com

Keep the discussions alive but also put walk to that talk. Words ain't got feet to mobilize and arms to make change...they need a body.

CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
S.E.A.L.S. Ministryz Co-founder

1 Timothy 1: 15Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst. 16But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life. 17Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

November 28, 2007 12:16 PM

hey dame here is a quarter call .somebody who gives a fugg you or jay ain't giving me no scratch and i'm a big jay fan mofo charging 400.00 a ticket for new year's eve opening of his 40/40 club here in vegas fugg outta here but more importantly
RIP SEAN TAYLOR
GO BEARS!!!

nyc_minded says...
LOLOL @ that letter from PZ like this nigga is Saigon or some shit...i hope I had at least some minor part in that ethering...be gone PZ! SEALz are wack nigga just like you!

November 28, 2007 12:41 PM

CO-SIGN

I was thinking the same thing, who the nigga think he is Saigon? This nigga up in here confessing like he Usher. lol

Thanks for that good laugh PZ. BTW nobody in here cares about your bitch ass feelings or why you leaving. We're just glad your leaving and hopefully you won't come back!!!!

@ NYC_MINDED:
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"Ducked out?" You aint talkin bout me. I posted the last of my 3 successive comments at 3:04pm and shouted you out again at 4:47pm:
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react says...
NYC_MINDED, WHERE U AT?... Waiting for a response and continuation on the topic... if not, we'll go back to the music.
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You didn't respond until 5:39pm. So, nah, nobody ducked out. If anything, you were the one who was MIA. But we all have our busy schedules, so...
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@REACT

Sorry dog, I have somewhat of a busy schedule so I usually only have limited windows of opportunity to get my points across in here. Thanks for your civility though, I appreciate it. But anyway, here goes:

@ Brooklyn B

Interscope my friend. Interscope for a while was over shadowing Def Jam. But to keep it 100% they are both under Universal Music Group so One main management is getting all this money while we are sitting here bickering.

And with Kanye, Jay didn't believe in him because of his style. Jay was following everyone else think of bling and tough guy stuff. Dame gave Kanye the chance to make that first album after hearing and make Kanye pay for "Through the Wire." Jay jumped on the bandwagon after he was getting some success. He just wanted him to make beats.

@Brook B

Get ya tissues ready,

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A major drug-growing operation consisiting of marijuana plants with a street value of more than $1 million was busted by police and drug agents at an Orlando house Tuesday night, leading to a man's arrest, officials said.

Pedro Thomas, 37, who rents the home off Hidden Trail Road near the Orange-Osceola county line, was arrested by Metropolitan Bureau of Investigaton agents, who said it was one of the largest indoor cannabis grow operations they have seen in years.

"We don't know very much about him except that he is running this property. This property is very secluded. It's the perfect location for something like this," MBI Lt. Carl Metzger said.

Officials said they found 30 plants in a shed and numerous plants inside, including one room in the 1,600 square foot house that was filled with pot plants, drying fans, heat lamps and humidifiers.

"We were pretty certain about what we were going to find just based on the odor. It was strong. We knew that it was here once we were able to get fairly close to the house," Metzger said. "We needed to jump on it quickly, and we did. We were quite astounded at what we found."

It is not known if the owner of the house knew of or was involved with the operation, officials said.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.
^^

Its gonna be a DRYYYYYY winter homie. lol.

Jay said something to dame after he showed up on the video with cam dissing him. Dame needs to stop acting like a chick. damn...

haboogie says...
@ Brooklyn B

Interscope my friend. Interscope for a while was over shadowing Def Jam. But to keep it 100% they are both under Universal Music Group so One main management is getting all this money while we are sitting here bickering.

And with Kanye, Jay didn't believe in him because of his style. Jay was following everyone else think of bling and tough guy stuff. Dame gave Kanye the chance to make that first album after hearing and make Kanye pay for "Through the Wire." Jay jumped on the bandwagon after he was getting some success. He just wanted him to make beats.

November 28, 2007 12:59 PM
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interscope?? they aint shit with out g-unit
just like arista aint shit with out TI
and universal music group is another topic.
but like i said that was THEN but def jam is doing they thing now, when interscope was doing them jay wasnt even president, unless im mistaken.
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and jay's right with wanting him to just do beats, when u hear something new that shit have to grow on you or whatever.
thats like listening to a song NO ONE heard b4 you might like it more when it hit mainstream or vice versa you might hate a song cause it got TO popular.
i say that to say this
kanyes through the wire was hot, i cant front
but the joint he had with twista was wack, not the song his verse i should say. when i 1st heard it (and didnt know who kanye the rapper was) i was like damn whos that other nigga on twista song? that nigga is wack, "...light skin girl look like michael jackson got a dark skin girl that looks like michael jackson....."
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and how did jay "jump" on a bandwagon when kanye was on jays dick?

EReal says...
@Brook B

Get ya tissues ready,

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A major drug-growing operation consisiting of marijuana plants with a street value of more than $1 million was busted by police and drug agents at an Orlando house Tuesday night, leading to a man's arrest, officials said.

Pedro Thomas, 37, who rents the home off Hidden Trail Road near the Orange-Osceola county line, was arrested by Metropolitan Bureau of Investigaton agents, who said it was one of the largest indoor cannabis grow operations they have seen in years.

"We don't know very much about him except that he is running this property. This property is very secluded. It's the perfect location for something like this," MBI Lt. Carl Metzger said.

Officials said they found 30 plants in a shed and numerous plants inside, including one room in the 1,600 square foot house that was filled with pot plants, drying fans, heat lamps and humidifiers.

"We were pretty certain about what we were going to find just based on the odor. It was strong. We knew that it was here once we were able to get fairly close to the house," Metzger said. "We needed to jump on it quickly, and we did. We were quite astounded at what we found."

It is not known if the owner of the house knew of or was involved with the operation, officials said.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.
^^

Its gonna be a DRYYYYYY winter homie. lol.

November 28, 2007 1:02 PM
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police in helicopter, search for marijuana, police man in the field, looking for collie weed
IF YOU CONTINUE TO BURN DOWN THE HERBS, WE GONNA BURN DOWN YOUR CAIN FIELDS!!!!!!!!
who know that old reggae tune, lol

dame know exactly what happened. he signed cam and the dipset and once they saw success, dame became dummy. thats like a cat from the bx doing business with a cat from queens and once they see significant success the queens cat peoples come in on some fuck that bx clown shit. then it gets to your head and u want your fellow queens nigga to take over while your bx nigga is with his bitch doin them. then the bx cat comes off vacation, makes it extra hot for the company and shits on them for even thinking that the bx cat could be irrelevant to any talks of position. at the end of the day, talent is what sells. you can have 10 record deals, but if u dont sell records, it means dick.

why is niggas actin like dame is a victim that nigga got money and mayo jay did not run to diddy for heat puff called jay and said he got some beats to check out

i meant
IF YOU CONTINUE TO BURN UP THE HERB, WE GONNA BURN DOWN YOUR CANE FIELDS. cane as in sugar cain

This broke ass nigga will not stop sayin Hov's name. He's a bootlicker. A leech. A crab. He can't get anybody to pay attention to him unless he mentions Jay. What a loser. Can't provide for his family without another man...sad

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You can talk about stabbin somebody in the back all you want, but that don't change shit. A spade is a spade. Damon was a problem. He was bad for business. I wasn't in that shit and I can tell. Fightin like a little bitch with Lyor and Steve Stoute. Blowin smoke and yappin yo gums up there at the office. Bringin in wack ass Cam while Hov was on vacay. Disrespecting Bleek, and for all we know Ty-Ty too, at the Change Clothes video shoot....all this shit. This is just what we KNOW about. Imagine the shit that Hov down play all in the name of takin the high road. Damon is officially a LOSER. He's a loser....

@REACT
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Man..honestly, I was called to this blog to let folks know about Christian Hip Hop. Not to be mixed up in the regular discussion. And I've been effective at that, but as of late..I don't know. It's like I just been sucked in the blog and same circles of discussion.
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But that's not my point man. My issues have nothing to do with the blog. Although something has has been brought to my heart is that I do still have some feelings of not being able to handle the blatant disrespect in an upright, Christian manner. I really believe that had I had these same discussions with some of these folks in person, and they came at me like that...I'm not sure I wouldn't open hand slap half of the folks when that blatant disrespect came.
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But honestly homey....my whole thing has always been lust. And lately, the devil has been throwin situations at me that I ain't been handling as I should. In fact, in direct opposition as to how I should. Also, pride has been creepin in and as you know Christ IS humility and that's my example. So I don't ever want to think that I have anything to do with this high place that God is placing me with the ministry, but I must keep in mind that it's all about Him and I'm just a vessel he's using. It could just as easily be someone else.
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So that's it man. My three main things are lust, pride, and the turn the other cheek. And I'm not benefiting nor growing in these areas by remaining a regular contributor on this blog. I am to rep Christ at all times, in all areas regardless of whos eyes are on me, because I know His are at all times.
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So like I said...the time I spend on this blog can be refocused in a direction of information or guidance which can help me grow stronger in the areas I'm dealing with. In order to grow closer to Christ, not closer to the world.
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But brother, regardless of our difference of opinion on the Christian Hip Hop, I really believe we would both be blessed by keeping in touch. So holla at me for real. I stay connected not just with Christians or people who are identical in my walk or what I believe, I connect with all kind of folks...so our relationship ain't based on our agreement/disagreement of how hip hop can or should not be used...but our relationship is based on realness, and our serving the same God...so get at me for real homey.
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mrpeezy@yahoo.com
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Everybody else, ya'll know how to find me. I'm in San Antonio Texas, my name is Andrew Pruett and my contact information is on my page. I'm the same me all the time, so get at me if you real. And be watchin out, I'm tellin you...SEALS Ministryz is where you at, or headed that way.
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CHRIST BLESS!
PZ

BK Repper says...
why is niggas actin like dame is a victim that nigga got money and mayo jay did not run to diddy for heat puff called jay and said he got some beats to check out

November 28, 2007 1:37 PM
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co-sign
them beats was about to be beating in the trash.
are these articles and interviews not available to every1?

Late but hey it's Da ROC Bi%$*&es.
Yo! Dame go jump off a cliff now, you wanna talk about disrespect, you bringing in your boys and cuttin Jay's employees while he chillin on vacation, you was about to mess up that mans paper flow being arrgont and ignant with real money makers, you lucky you still alive, cause I know wome dudes that will take out there own Mama if she messes up there money Dame Dummy. So Be-Ez greasy and stop bumpin your gums like a true Bi^%*.

EReal says...
@Brook B

Get ya tissues ready,

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A major drug-growing operation consisiting of marijuana plants with a street value of more than $1 million was busted by police and drug agents at an Orlando house Tuesday night, leading to a man's arrest, officials said.

Pedro Thomas, 37, who rents the home off Hidden Trail Road near the Orange-Osceola county line, was arrested by Metropolitan Bureau of Investigaton agents, who said it was one of the largest indoor cannabis grow operations they have seen in years.

"We don't know very much about him except that he is running this property. This property is very secluded. It's the perfect location for something like this," MBI Lt. Carl Metzger said.

Officials said they found 30 plants in a shed and numerous plants inside, including one room in the 1,600 square foot house that was filled with pot plants, drying fans, heat lamps and humidifiers.

"We were pretty certain about what we were going to find just based on the odor. It was strong. We knew that it was here once we were able to get fairly close to the house," Metzger said. "We needed to jump on it quickly, and we did. We were quite astounded at what we found."

It is not known if the owner of the house knew of or was involved with the operation, officials said.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.
^^

Its gonna be a DRYYYYYY winter homie. lol.

November 28, 2007 1:02 PM

I cried twice after reading this.

@ small forward/free safety chi-hop

how long do U think it will be B4 the know-it-alls in the media try 2 link Sean Taylor's murder 2.....

a) Hip Hop
b) Michael Vick
c) Tank Johnson
d) Drugs

Ya'll are about as lame as you are stupid. Everybody's post is the same. Here, let me switch it up. Dame isn't rich without Jay; that's why he keeps bringing this up. Deep down he wants Jay to smooth it over so they can work together again. Until then he'll be at Diplomats headquarters over there at Koch Records beating his meat in a studio like, "Oh yeah that's tight right there, I like that sample right there, yeah yeah, good job Hell Rell, you're a great rapper". And Rell is gonna be like, "What the Fuck B?" Have you ever heard the story of Humpty Dumpty? All the kings horses and all the kings men. It's sad how far he has fallen. Oh well, he sucks now; and the stretchmarks on his fat stomach look like a cracked windshield.

@ Brooklyn B

Jay jumped on the bandwagon with Kanye's first album's success. When the Roc split, Jay tried real hard and won Kanye because by then, he knew he was hot. Interscope is really Interscope-Geffen-A&M. They have right now besides G-Unit, Shady Records, Aftermath, Star Trak, Will I.Am and a crazy amount of other artist like Keyshia Coles and Common.

The only thing I would give Kudos to Jay for is that he is signing some of the hottest he has under Rocafella so when he goes, they go w/ him

Dame Needs To Get Off Jays Dick And Thats All There Is To That Shit. Fuck Dame, He's A Bitch Just Like a Dame

PZ says...

So that's it man. My three main things are lust, pride, and the turn the other cheek. And I'm not benefiting nor growing in these areas by remaining a regular contributor on this blog.

CHRIST BLESS!
PZ

November 28, 2007 1:39 PM

Lust? Being on this blog is helping you grow in that area?

So who have you been lusting over on this blog PZ, because there is nothing but dudes on this blog - so who have you been having homo thoughts about?

I'm almost a shame to say this but Interscope has Soulja Boy also.

Haboogie says...
@ Brooklyn B

Jay jumped on the bandwagon with Kanye's first album's success. When the Roc split, Jay tried real hard and won Kanye because by then, he knew he was hot. Interscope is really Interscope-Geffen-A&M. They have right now besides G-Unit, Shady Records, Aftermath, Star Trak, Will I.Am and a crazy amount of other artist like Keyshia Coles and Common.

The only thing I would give Kudos to Jay for is that he is signing some of the hottest he has under Rocafella so when he goes, they go w/ him

November 28, 2007 2:09 PM

You must be kidding me to actually think Jay tried real hard to keep Kanye. Kanye looks up to Jay and his style and what he's done in the game. Thats why Kanye is on the Roc still and those other artist that left wish they would've stayed.

1.typical of New York Niggers.....fake, no loyalty, back stabbers, haters......
2. Anyway RIP Sean Taylor and Kanye Mother
3. Find another topic besides Dame, 50.
4. I fucks with Styles P.....he underrated in the rap game
5.

Haboogie says...
@ Brooklyn B

Jay jumped on the bandwagon with Kanye's first album's success. When the Roc split, Jay tried real hard and won Kanye because by then, he knew he was hot. Interscope is really Interscope-Geffen-A&M. They have right now besides G-Unit, Shady Records, Aftermath, Star Trak, Will I.Am and a crazy amount of other artist like Keyshia Coles and Common.

The only thing I would give Kudos to Jay for is that he is signing some of the hottest he has under Rocafella so when he goes, they go w/ him

November 28, 2007 2:09 PM
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lol, u knew it woulda came out soon, lol (talking bout the soulja boy comment)
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jay did the same with bleeks 1st album, i dont see whats wrong with showing and proving.
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and look at beans (who im hearing good things about the album) he was with dame and left, kanye leaving was a good business move, kanye aint have a gun to his face or a contract obligations. dame isnt puff, dame isnt.........what the fuck do dame really even do? lmao...just thought of that

kae says...
This broke ass nigga will not stop sayin Hov's name. He's a bootlicker. A leech. A crab. He can't get anybody to pay attention to him unless he mentions Jay. What a loser. Can't provide for his family without another man...sad

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You can talk about stabbin somebody in the back all you want, but that don't change shit. A spade is a spade. Damon was a problem. He was bad for business. I wasn't in that shit and I can tell. Fightin like a little bitch with Lyor and Steve Stoute. Blowin smoke and yappin yo gums up there at the office. Bringin in wack ass Cam while Hov was on vacay. Disrespecting Bleek, and for all we know Ty-Ty too, at the Change Clothes video shoot....all this shit. This is just what we KNOW about. Imagine the shit that Hov down play all in the name of takin the high road. Damon is officially a LOSER. He's a loser....

November 28, 2007 1:38 PM

100% Co-Sign

@ Brooklyn B
I was just thinkin who else did Dame make a mega star outta of that was on Roc-a-fella? Then it hit me: Nobody!!! Everybody that liked Kanye liked him cause he was different than your normal thug that was on da Roc. People still didn't really like Kanye till he went up against 50 for album sales and publicty.

B- Stuy Long says...
@ Brooklyn B
I was just thinkin who else did Dame make a mega star outta of that was on Roc-a-fella? Then it hit me: Nobody!!! Everybody that liked Kanye liked him cause he was different than your normal thug that was on da Roc. People still didn't really like Kanye till he went up against 50 for album sales and publicty.

November 28, 2007 2:32 PM
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word, if dame had artist thats doing they thing then he got a leg to stand on. he KEEP crying about kanye, but what about the dips?
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and i co-sign your last ye comment, i know people that was hating on or just starting to fuck with ye during late registration

I agree w/ b Stuy. Enuff already you thgt u was the man all by your lonley signing and giving positions to your Dipset peoples and now lOOK!!! why cry n whine n cry n whine NOW u made ure bed SLEEP in it. JUMP off the J issue DAME n move ON get a new hustle its OVER! this bitchn u keep doing aint a good look U aint the 1st or last to get done dirty by a FRIEND so wht dont kill u shld make u strnger !( oops tht was his artist ) BOUNCE back THTS the best revenge!

Cracked WIndshield says...
1.typical of New York Niggers.....fake, no loyalty, back stabbers, haters......
2. Anyway RIP Sean Taylor and Kanye Mother
3. Find another topic besides Dame, 50.
4. I fucks with Styles P.....he underrated in the rap game
5.

November 28, 2007 2:22 PM

Loyal just like

Cash money and all them niggaz they fucked over!!!!
Trick Daddy and Slip n Slide
Jeezy and Boys in the hood
Suge and Snoop
Dj Tromp and TI

@ Brooklyn B and B-Stuy Long

Dame is doing anything now because he is heartbroken. He got his balls cut off.

And not to make a joke about it. Cam got big on Roc-a-fella. Who did Jay make big on Roc-a-fella? No one.

Love them or Hate them, G-Unit is the only group of guys where almost all their artist saw some sort of success and are all eatin'

Haboogie says...
@ Brooklyn B and B-Stuy Long

Dame is doing anything now because he is heartbroken. He got his balls cut off.

And not to make a joke about it. Cam got big on Roc-a-fella. Who did Jay make big on Roc-a-fella? No one.

Love them or Hate them, G-Unit is the only group of guys where almost all their artist saw some sort of success and are all eatin'

November 28, 2007 2:50 PM
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jay WAS a artist it really wasnt his job to do nothing but rap really
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and even then jay put people on but its not up to JAY to make a rapper rap or have crazy fans.
rell was hot
amil had some bangers on her shit (i guess, lol, liked the single though)
bleek did his thing
so did beans
christion or whatever there name was i like there single too but at the end of the day its up to the artist.
diamond in the ruff
rocafella had some talent run through there camp but like i said its up to the artist.
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if ya mans put you on and you dont generate a buzz thats ya mans fault?
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i was looking at cronicles of jr mafia and cease said ON THE JR MAFIA CD BIG WROTE HIS LINES then in the same sentence wanted to bitch about puff for wanting a demo, lol.
at the end you gotta take responsiblity for your sucess as well as your failure. dame should have kept riding for that brooklyn boy.
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and gunit yeah they had a good one album run,lol
but even then and like alotta posse groups there is always THAT dude (50, em, jay, nelly, BIG, etc....) then the other guys(gunit, stlunitics, d12, JRmafia, etc....).
i WILL say that everyone DID eat off gunit i always give them that but after that 1 album what happen? at the end you cant keep piggy backing off that dude you have to make a lane 4 ya self and if you dont you cant get mad.............J HOOD, lol

LOL @ PZ "confessing like he usher" lol that shit made me laugh 4 real. Let me break down PZ's long ass goodbye letter for you all:

I waste my whole day sitting around here posting blogs instead of doing whatever "job" it is that i do in the (wack) SEALz minisistry. When I'm not blogging, I'm looking at porno on the internet & playing with my lil PZ (thats where the "lust" comes in). Basically the SEALz found out what a lazy bum i am & threatened to fire me as their hype man. It's REALLY that simple.

PZ dog, you the worst perpetrator i ever seen in my LIFE. you're a prime example of why ppl should think twice before giving a cent to any church. You're gona end up 60 yrs old & one of those lame ass white preachers on BET late at night talkin about send me money and I'll send you this blessed prayer cloth. You're a fucking joke son and I'm so glad you wrote your lil sob story & got the fidduck outa here.

@REACT

Wassup dog, you only blog up until 5pm? Don't got a computer back at the crib, huh? Well the blog from yesterday is still up there so if you got anything to say, then hit that shit up. I saw that you said that you own your own business out in bk & if thats true then big ups, real talk. But anyways, holla. I'll do my best to respond in a timely fashion.

@ Brooklyn B

I guess you are right about these cats having to take advantage of their slot. The problem w/ these labels however is that they back the wrong horse. To me, if Jay is going to be the Label guy, be the label guy. Don't try doing that and being the best MC on the label because at the end of the day, that energy you put into being the best artist could have went to helping the artist on you label, doing business that a label requires to be successful and lining your pockets because of it. Just look at Puff or Diddy or whatever he calls himself. It hurts the label.

Haboogie says...
@ Brooklyn B and B-Stuy Long

Dame is doing anything now because he is heartbroken. He got his balls cut off.

And not to make a joke about it. Cam got big on Roc-a-fella. Who did Jay make big on Roc-a-fella? No one.

Love them or Hate them, G-Unit is the only group of guys where almost all their artist saw some sort of success and are all eatin'

November 28, 2007 2:50 PM
I can dig you on that what your saying, but jay did give Bleek his like first two albums it's up tyo him to him to find his spot, and plus Bleekwould have never filled Jay shoes, not even if they wore the same size Air 1's. Also peep this Biggie couldn't even make Junior Mafia pop off like he wanted too. Your in control of your own destiny. But at least Jay stuck by his lil man and is making sure he is eating off the plate, now that is LOYALTY!!!

Bottom line, Dame fucked up. He was an asshole to everybody in the industry, BECAUSE HE HAD THE BEST RAPPER. But then the rapper went on his own, because of Dame's assholish ways.

Jay explains it all in lost ones. Dame lost his head, "too much flossin". He was disrespecting other people in the industry, and that in turn was hurting Jay's business, because the industry is like "thats your boy, check ya homey..." Not to mention he let that other Harlem nigga become president when Jay was on vacation. I just think Jay and Dame was on two different levels, Jay is like "I wanna be in this industry forever", and Dame is like "I got money, watch me pour champagne on some hoes".

@NYC_Minded
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You feel better bout yaself?
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See, you the type I'm talking about...that would cause me to spit in your face in person and open hand slap you.
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Yes..I said SPIT..and I said OPEN HANDED, when I should be prayin for you and pleading to God on your behalf. Thanks for shinin light that I still got growth to reach for.
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JESUS LOVES YOU !(yes...even the ugly kids)

Just kidding, but for real....get at me if you wanna take it past any of this discussion. mrpeezy@yahoo.com
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Other than that...blog on blogger.
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If you wonderin why I'm here, I'm checkin back for REACTs response. No more addressin the stans from here on out no matter what kinda bait ya'll throw out.

Haboogie says...
@ Brooklyn B

I guess you are right about these cats having to take advantage of their slot. The problem w/ these labels however is that they back the wrong horse. To me, if Jay is going to be the Label guy, be the label guy. Don't try doing that and being the best MC on the label because at the end of the day, that energy you put into being the best artist could have went to helping the artist on you label, doing business that a label requires to be successful and lining your pockets because of it. Just look at Puff or Diddy or whatever he calls himself. It hurts the label.

November 28, 2007 3:15 PM
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aight i see ya point but what about fif?
the same can be said about him, he doing movies and clothing lines and vitamin water and g-unit was slowly sinking. is that 50 fault? he got a gang of artist on there for the sole purpose of generating money, 50 cant just stay a rapper. look at em was it the movie he was in that made d12 invisible? or pac and the outlawz was it..........well i guess it was pacs death, lol but regardless like someone said earlier its talent, either u got it or not.
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chingy was down with luda, LEFT and realized he wasnt as hot as he thought and he went back.
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*correction i meant to say atlantic isnt hot with out TI*
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there are sooooo many artist you can say that about and the more u say it and change the rapper after while u gonna just say damn THEY gotta step they game up.
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if i find that joe budden article imma post it, dude actually said HE WASNT GIVING DEF JAM NO MUSIC, jay had a interview and they asked about budden and jay said i havent recieved no music so i cant say when he's droppin.
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PZ says...
@NYC_Minded
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You feel better bout yaself?
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See, you the type I'm talking about...that would cause me to spit in your face in person and open hand slap you.
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Yes..I said SPIT..and I said OPEN HANDED, when I should be prayin for you and pleading to God on your behalf. Thanks for shinin light that I still got growth to reach for.
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JESUS LOVES YOU !(yes...even the ugly kids)

Just kidding, but for real....get at me if you wanna take it past any of this discussion. mrpeezy@yahoo.com
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Other than that...blog on blogger.
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If you wonderin why I'm here, I'm checkin back for REACTs response. No more addressin the stans from here on out no matter what kinda bait ya'll throw out.

November 28, 2007 3:29 PM
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I WISH U WOULD!

kush city says...
Bottom line, Dame fucked up. He was an asshole to everybody in the industry, BECAUSE HE HAD THE BEST RAPPER. But then the rapper went on his own, because of Dame's assholish ways.

Jay explains it all in lost ones. Dame lost his head, "too much flossin". He was disrespecting other people in the industry, and that in turn was hurting Jay's business, because the industry is like "thats your boy, check ya homey..." Not to mention he let that other Harlem nigga become president when Jay was on vacation. I just think Jay and Dame was on two different levels, Jay is like "I wanna be in this industry forever", and Dame is like "I got money, watch me pour champagne on some hoes".

November 28, 2007 3:26 PM

I don't know if you can remember the time when Jay and Dame use to say this.
Dame use to call Jay a fake rapper and Jay would ssay back at him Stay outta my videos.

lol thanks rev. al, i know you got my back...PZ like I said, your a fucking clown & a half my nigga...wassup tho u came back out of retirement already? U tryna go from Saigon to Jay-z just like that? lol...u aint spittin on or slappin shit but your hand & ur lil pink PZ nigga so shut the fuck up!

PZ says...
@NYC_Minded
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You feel better bout yaself?
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See, you the type I'm talking about...that would cause me to spit in your face in person and open hand slap you.
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Yes..I said SPIT..and I said OPEN HANDED, when I should be prayin for you and pleading to God on your behalf. Thanks for shinin light that I still got growth to reach for.
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JESUS LOVES YOU !(yes...even the ugly kids)

Just kidding, but for real....get at me if you wanna take it past any of this discussion. mrpeezy@yahoo.com
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Other than that...blog on blogger.
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If you wonderin why I'm here, I'm checkin back for REACTs response. No more addressin the stans from here on out no matter what kinda bait ya'll throw out.

November 28, 2007 3:29 PM

"but for real....get at me if you wanna take it past any of this discussion. mrpeezy@yahoo.com"
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GET YOUR FUCKING ASS BACK TO WORK

@PZ

Your are losing your faith messing around with us backsliders up in here. lol!!!

@ NYC_MINDED...
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REACT
Wassup dog, you only blog up until 5pm? Don't got a computer back at the crib, huh?
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Keep it grown, bruh. We doin good so far and we're having an articulate discussion. But, like I said, the bloggin is a diversion. I've got 9 people workin for me so I can afford to take long lunches or take days off. (Funny thing is, one of my employees be on this blog sometimes, but he's not allowed to access it while he's workin.)
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I don't make a life of bloggin, no matter how fiery and lengthy my responses can be at times. But linkin this back to PZ for a sec, it's been good getting a diversity of input on some of the more interesting and substantial subject matters on this blog. PZ always came through and ruffled up somebody's feathers. Like I've said before, I wuz always down for a good Brooklyn B vs. PZ debate...
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Dems my dudes (in a cyberspace anonymous blogger "friendship" kinda way, ya dig). Negroes like B-Stuy (WAH GWAN!), X-Facta, Dre... even the kid Rev Kush City and Chi Hop. What happens is that a person can get invested in this bloggin thang and begin to see it as productive and then get a bunch of negative foolishness from 13 year-olds wantin to act up.
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YOU SHOULDN'T GET SUCKED INTO IT... ITS JUST AN ANONYMOUS BLOG... but I can see trouble brewing if you had invested a lot into it.
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So this bloggin bidness should be reserved for either light comments or "respectful" discussions. Of late, we've had some good ones. One that comes to mind is the whole "F-da-police" one which multiple facets of it were discussed. Brooklyn B and PZ was some major contributors to that one. Keep it grown; don't come at kats insulting they mamas or just goin off on some b*tch like rant. LOL, I did that once or twice when I first started gettin into these blogs (dayum, that's some stupid sh*t). I repent!
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As for yesterday's discussion... I'm glad you like continuing things...

B- Stuy Long says...
@PZ

Your are losing your faith messing around with us backsliders up in here. lol!!!

November 28, 2007 4:03 PM
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1 FOR THE DEVIL
0 FOR JESUS
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OOOOOOH IT BURRRRNS

B- Stuy Long says... Your are losing your faith messing around with us backsliders up in here. lol!!!
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LOL. You're wrong for that one, negro. But it's actually true. But you should take your foot off his neck and let a dude breathe. We don't know how invested people are in what they do. In all seriousness, PZ is prolly the one who does the MOST to help the community through the music. The rest of us are just some bullsh#tters and bootleggers. NUFF RESPEK

REACT says...
B- Stuy Long says... Your are losing your faith messing around with us backsliders up in here. lol!!!
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LOL. You're wrong for that one, negro. But it's actually true. But you should take your foot off his neck and let a dude breathe. We don't know how invested people are in what they do. In all seriousness, PZ is prolly the one who does the MOST to help the community through the music. The rest of us are just some bullsh#tters and bootleggers. NUFF RESPEK

November 28, 2007 4:13 PM

Wah Gwan Mi Breden?
Yeah The Good Lord knows Ijoke alot but I keep the faith my him.

@PZ I was just tryin to make light of the situatuion. keep your head up!

ONE THING I DON'T DO IS STRAIGHT DISRESPECT RELIGION...
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I don't care if you Muslim, Hindu, whatever. I WILL definitely "react" and give my 50 dollars worth of opinion; but bashin another man's religion for no reason is straight juvenile.
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THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS SAY THERE SHOULD BE AN AGE LIMIT ON THESE BLOGS... you'll be in the middle of an interesting exchange and some snot-nosed punk wanna jump in with they wack one-liners.
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BY THE WAY, THE DAME TOPIC IS SO OLD AND STALE that it's not funny. Everything has already been said not just here but MONTHS ago. The story beyond the story is always more interesting.

Yo everybody with some serious input dig this. Tomorrow at my firm we will be blessed with the chance to meet Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, Sr.. I already have some questions for him pertaining to the past and present state of black man vs the police in the hood, but is there anything else I should ask of him and what is is organization tryin to do to end all the madness?

B- Stuy Long says...
Yo everybody with some serious input dig this. Tomorrow at my firm we will be blessed with the chance to meet Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, Sr.. I already have some questions for him pertaining to the past and present state of black man vs the police in the hood, but is there anything else I should ask of him and what is is organization tryin to do to end all the madness?

November 28, 2007 4:22 PM
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ask him if he is grooming someone to be his aprentise or whatever.
and who do he think would win a fight between his son and david banner,lol

i WILL say that everyone DID eat off gunit i always give them that but after that 1 album what happen? at the end you cant keep piggy backing off that dude you have to make a lane 4 ya self and if you dont you cant get mad.............J HOOD, lol

November 28, 2007 3:04 PM
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G-Unit is still selling more than the average rapper out there. Look at their sales, even Jay didnt touch 50, and as far as the rest, they're still outselling everyone. Just because they arent plat that dosent mean shit. Watch when that Shoot to Kill drops I bet its fire.

Its like buck said "I wanna start with thankin the haters, cause if it wasnt for them, we'd never be this major"

Options for decent bangers are runnin out, I suggest you peep that G-Unit Radio 25 or G-Unit is the Army... they comin...

@Brooklyn B
That first one i'll ask him but htat last one he might look at me like I'm some crazy negro. lol!!

AY PZ...
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I know I'm talkin all around you but not directly at you. I'll be the first to admit that when I first decided to start posting, I got heated and went in too deep. I came on because of my love of the music, not to mention my many years of experience tryin to make a lane through it. Y'ALL REMEMBER THAT I CAME ON AS "DIAMOND D." And after series of grown exchanges with other bloggers, the little kids got to me... but in the beginning it didnt sink into my head that they was just some snot-nosed punks with internet connection and too much time.
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LMAO. Yo, B! I laugh back at how caught up I was. But I guess I had too high expectations on having thoughtful discussions, as well as some good ole fashion clean bullsh*tting now and then. I LEAVE U WITH THIS:
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There's a time and place to get into your personal life, views, and opinions. But you also know that there are some incredible idiots that come on here. Nothing is sacred to them. There's no honor or loyalty among bloggers (LOL). You can't give up too much information nor give in too much investment. Posting a serious and personal comment is like throwing piece of meat into a tank of piranhas. BLOGGERS ARE WACK!

@REACT

Yea dog, I'm always down to keep it heavy but like i said yesterday (in case u missed it) I aint really for the xtra-long posts...Unless its some hilarious shit like the Confessions of a PZ, I think that the more verbose a post becomes, the less impact it carries. I'm the type of cat that prefers 2 go straight for the jugular, feel me? But I made my points on yesterday's topic on that blog, so if you want to continue that discussion, thats where I'll be checking for responses.

As for today, if you let this shit become anything other than something fun to occupy some spare time, thats on you (not you specifically, but "you" in the general sense). So as for PZ, in a matter of a couple days I've literally watched this dude crumble and fall apart in front of me, real talk. He went from not being able to respond to a very straightforward argument to practically begging me to "put some shine on my face" to announcing a tearful goodbye to the blog game to challenging me to a fight via his yahoo email address. Dude is exposed and finished and I can't help but take a lil satisfaction from it.

So anyways, get at me dog.

@PZ

"You know i really study my art, break you apart"--Memphis bleek

Brooklyn B says...
B- Stuy Long says...
Yo everybody with some serious input dig this. Tomorrow at my firm we will be blessed with the chance to meet Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, Sr.. I already have some questions for him pertaining to the past and present state of black man vs the police in the hood, but is there anything else I should ask of him and what is is organization tryin to do to end all the madness?

November 28, 2007 4:22 PM
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ask him if he is grooming someone to be his aprentise or whatever.
and who do he think would win a fight between his son and david banner,lol

November 28, 2007 4:28 PM
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Ask him why the Young Black Male is blamed for basicly every social problem out there and none of the blame is being placed on the generation before them (aka the crack generation) for the mistakes that led to the mindset instilled in the Younger generation that basicly raised themselves or were raised by the streets or t.v. and why more focus isnt shifted into highlighting those problems instead of banning Santa Claus at the mall from saying ho ho ho, which further perpetuates the 'slander' of various phrases that people didnt even think twice about before..... for starters., I mean, IMO.

B- Stuy Long says... I already have some questions for him pertaining to the past and present state of black man vs the police in the hood, but is there anything else I should ask of him and what is is organization tryin to do to end all the madness?

November 28, 2007 4:28 PM

Tell him to keep it pushin, ya dig. I was a Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton hater, thinkin they dont do nuthin but run they mouths, then I listened to them. Them niggas be talkin real shit. If you actually meetin dude, tell him to keep it pushin. Tell him to work on creating more music, sports, and business, and gang PREVENTION afterschool programs for the kids. Tell him to work on more graffiti cleanup efforts. Tell him to tell the police to stop racial profiling, lol. Nigga cant even smoke a blunt in peace out this muhfucka.

@EREAL I got that thats whassup. I always thought about that, especially after the HIP HOP vs America special on BET when I thinkT.I. posed a question like that.

@ NYC_MINDED:
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Recap of yesterday's discussion on homosexuality, particularly why it is rejected in the Hip Hop/Black community in general. I recall there being only 2 people (yourself included) who defended homosexuality versus the overwhelming majority.
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Some folks were on here talkin bout killin gays on the street. But when you got at me, I chose to respond according to logic and known facts. I'll add that it takes a bit of courage to stand up for homosexuality if (a) you're not actually one yourself and (b) you're sincere about it as opposed to just wanting to go against the grain.
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After I signed off, I think the Honorable Reverend Kush City (LMBAO) picked up from my last comment and kept at it with you.
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I'll repost your comment with some brief responses for now (cause I really gotta go):

@Kush I can dig that, cause we do need more outlets in the hood and they seemin to forget about us these days. Don't feel bad I use to feel the same way about both of them myself but as i got older and realized that they don't hold that much weight as they should. Also I miss the days that the crew use to be huddled on the block passing like ten L's amongst 5 people and not worryin about the Po-Po. lol

EReal says... Ask him why the Young Black Male is blamed for basicly every social problem out there and none of the blame is being placed on the generation before them (aka the crack generation) for the mistakes that led to the mindset instilled in the Younger generation that basicly raised themselves or were raised by the streets or t.v. and why more focus isnt shifted into highlighting those problems instead of banning Santa Claus at the mall from saying ho ho ho, which further perpetuates the 'slander' of various phrases that people didnt even think twice about before..... for starters., I mean, IMO.

November 28, 2007 4:40 PM

I was raised by tv and later on the streets. My PARENTS(yes nigga I had em both) was workin, so i was on that latchkey tip(as whitefolks would say). But you cant let ya big homeys, or the media, or any outside forces, guide your life. You gotta take bits of they knowledge, and add it with your own thinking. I mean, we could talk all century about how fucked up the institutional systems of America treats us, but we as a people dont do much to help, or prove them otherwise. This is comin from a nigga you would perceive in real life as your run of the mill dopeboy thug type nigga. They DONT WANT us to feel comfortable in their systems, they want us to NOT be apart of society. When we are apart of they shit, they dont want us to be ourselves, they want us to be darker versions of them. And we buy right into it, THATS the major problem. There's no point in complainin, cause the shit is already fucked up. So nowadays its all about gettin money, AND setting a GOOD example for the NEXT generation. If you a g, tell the kids how its not good to be a g, fightin all the time, stayin strapped, watchin your back, hidin from police, all the shit that you wouldnt get in a Jay or 50 song. At least if they still take that route they'll have some gems to move forward with.

Message!!

@ NYC_MINDED...
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YOU WROTE: "I don't know about you, but I am not a biologist, psychologist, or biophyisicist, so I am definitely not qualified to speak on homosexuality in technical terms, such as "gay genes" or any of that."
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1) You don't need to be any kind of expert to understand the simple sexual functions of human beings. Add to that things such as hormones, anatomy, etc.
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2) The theory of there being a "gay gene" was purported years ago BY HOMOSEXUALS in an effort to prove it as being something inherited and predetermined as opposed to an "acquired behavioral pattern" - and the point is that theory has been resoundedly disproven.
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YOU WROTE: "I am going to speak on behalf of what I believe to be the respectful and understanding way to treat my fellow man."
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Not a problem. You DEFINITELY didn't see that "kill the gays in broad daylight" stuff coming from me. In the beginning of the discussion, I wrote the following:
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"Well, I don't condone outright violence on any person. I mean "hater" in the way that we use it in hip hop these days; I'm TOTALLY and WHOLLY against the homosexual movement."
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(Last one for now) YOU WROTE: "I did not choose my heterosexual orientation (i understand that you disagree with the use of that term but it does not change the fact that "orientation" is the widely accepted termanology). Therefor, when someone says that they did not choose to be homosexual, I am inclined to believe him or her."
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1) The misuse of the term "orientation" is not a mere coincidence or mild mistake. The agenda of the homosexual population is to make it seem that such behavior is genetic (as I mentioned before with the "gay gene" theory). It's an effort to indoctrinate the masses and we're being forced to accept it as truth. But I don't buy it because it is scientifically erroneous.
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2) It is absolutely possible for people to have abnormal fetishes and appetites. But the fact that they are brave enough openly declare it doesn't change whether or not that behavioral pattern is abnormal, immoral, or perverse. For instance, most of the world is still against pedophilia (at least for now). There are millions of people who are into child pornography and child sex. For one of those pedophiles to come on TV and admit that he is a pedophile doesn't make his disgusting behavior acceptable. Yeah, I believe he's telling the truth... and I believe he needs to be locked behind bars for it as well.
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It is unfair and close-minded for a pro-homosexual individual to label everyone who is anti-homosexuality as someone who "hates" them or is "afraid" of them. Do we say the same for those who are anti-pedophilia?

@ KUSH CITY...
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watts good, Reverend.

B- Stuy Long says...
Also I miss the days that the crew use to be huddled on the block passing like ten L's amongst 5 people and not worryin about the Po-Po. lol

November 28, 2007 4:51 PM

Man!!! Who said you cant still do it!!?? You gotta get your blunt-stomp-out-or-toss-the-weed-in-the-bushes game up. See them pigs, act NORMAL, thats niggas number one problem, we flinch and get nervous as hell when they come around.Then they be like "why are you nervous??" and we like "NIGGA, YOU A COP!!" But acting regular throws em off. I aint gonna front, when I see police i get cold sweats and fast heartbeat, EVEN if im not doin anything illegal. Its just the fact that I might LOOK like a nigga who just fucked some shit up, lol. Also dont get them mad, just go along with the shit. Cops dont like when you point out racial profiling, lololol.

@REACT

1) Because an opinion is in the majority does not make it in the right.
2) I am very sincere about all issues involving civil rights, and I do not separate gay rights from them.

kush city says...
B- Stuy Long says...
Also I miss the days that the crew use to be huddled on the block passing like ten L's amongst 5 people and not worryin about the Po-Po. lol

November 28, 2007 4:51 PM

Man!!! Who said you cant still do it!!?? You gotta get your blunt-stomp-out-or-toss-the-weed-in-the-bushes game up. See them pigs, act NORMAL, thats niggas number one problem, we flinch and get nervous as hell when they come around.Then they be like "why are you nervous??" and we like "NIGGA, YOU A COP!!" But acting regular throws em off. I aint gonna front, when I see police i get cold sweats and fast heartbeat, EVEN if im not doin anything illegal. Its just the fact that I might LOOK like a nigga who just fucked some shit up, lol. Also dont get them mad, just go along with the shit. Cops dont like when you point out racial profiling, lololol.

November 28, 2007 5:22 PM

Naw Dude that don't work no more they locking you up for a roach out here and they also checkin the entire area you was standin in. Trust me me and my crew was da block for many years, so now we just take it in the crib and do it real big ya dig! I'm out till tomorrow smoke and be safe in your house or someone else's

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1) Because an opinion is in the majority does not make it in the right.
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No biggie. Majority of opinion wasn't one of my arguments; just recapping what went down on yesterday's blog.
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2) I am very sincere about all issues involving civil rights, and I do not separate gay rights from them.
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"Gay rights" is a totally different animal from the civil rights movement; it upsets me that the distinction is being lost. This isn't about "fair and equal treatment." This is about sanctioning. protecting, and encouraging an abnormal and perverted behavioral pattern. It's not about people practicing their weird fetishes behind closed doors - it's about indoctrinating the whole human race in something that is not only against the laws and rules of science, but also destructive psychologically. Children are learning to question their bodies and emotions and believing that they are "oriented" differently. No, this isn't about civil rights.
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What's next, rights and privileges for pedophiles, those who engage in beastiality, cross dressers, transvestites, etc.?
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All that the homosexual agenda has proven is that the human being (as an animal) inspite of anatomy and hormones, has the psychological weakness to fall into abnormal, perverse patterns of sexual behavior. There's no need to give rights and privileges for such individuals. Rather, they need all the best help that medicine can afford in order to function normally.
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yeah, I said it.

Whut it dew, react??

@ Nyc_minded

No offense, but are you gay or something?? Or have a gay friend or relative?? Gay people are weird, bro. They arent normal. Sick in the head. Its not right to be homo. There's a HUGE diference between accepting people for what they are, and CELEBRATING people for their own perversions. Thats like saying its natural for women to be whores, or its natural to bang an animal or a relative, lol. What makes you think its right for two men, or two women, to get married and raise kids?? WTf? What about the kids?? Are "mommy and mommy" goin to tell them kids to be gay, or are they gonna admit their lifestyle is wrong and shouldnt be followed?? ITS NOT NATURAL!! I dont wanna sound super old school, but got damn!! What in your right mind tells you that homosexuality is RIGHT?????? Nobody is saying dont let people be themselves, BUT DONT ACT LIKE THAT SHIT IS RIGHT!!!! Most of us in here cant get over the fact that you CONDONE dudes havin sex with each other....WTF!!!!

NO "SPECIAL" RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES.
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It's like giving special rights to...
those who engage in incest.
those who have foot fetishes
those who shove squirrels up they assh*les
those who wack off their pet dog
those who fondle farm animals
etc.... (LOL) it's ridiculous, isn't it?
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HOMOSEXUALITY ISN'T A COMPLEX DEBATE. What, were talking about people who engage in abnormal and perverse acts with their genetalia. So we want to be "proud" of that? We want to make society accepts this as "normal" behavior? We want them to marry and adopt children and pretend they are "normal."
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And check it, I have yet to bring religion into this.

Minister react says... All that the homosexual agenda has proven is that the human being (as an animal) inspite of anatomy and hormones, has the psychological weakness to fall into abnormal, perverse patterns of sexual behavior. There's no need to give rights and privileges for such individuals. Rather, they need all the best help that medicine can afford in order to function normally.

November 28, 2007 5:36 PM

CHUUUUUUUUUUURRCH!!!!!!!!!!!

@ Kush City...
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SUP, REV! (Preeeeeeaach!)
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Tell him to keep it pushin, ya dig. I was a Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton hater, thinkin they dont do nuthin but run they mouths, then I listened to them. Them niggas be talkin real shit. If you actually meetin dude, tell him to keep it pushin. Tell him to work on creating more music, sports, and business, and gang PREVENTION afterschool programs for the kids. Tell him to work on more graffiti cleanup efforts. Tell him to tell the police to stop racial profiling, lol. Nigga cant even smoke a blunt in peace out this muhfucka.
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Well you a better man than I to have given JJ and Al the benefit of the doubt. I've heard them speak minimally, and to me it was the same ole crowd-pleasing politics. I'd love to hear speeches when they said something that sounded genuine to me. And both of them got gwap! I'd love to see them put their money where their mouths are. Other than that, they've always come off as poster-boys and puppetts to me.
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I'M OUT LIKE SCOOBY (ZOINKS, I'M GETTIN OUTTA HERE!!!!)
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NYC_MINDED, post a reply if you wish and I'll get back to it late tonight.
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In the words of PZ,
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Christ Bless (pouring out my Ginger Ale for a fallen soldier/blogger)

@Kush City

No, I'm not gay. I'm straight. I'm not Palestinian either, but does that mean that I should not speak up on behalf of injustices being against Palestinians? If I was not black, would you say that I should not speak up against lynchings? The same theory applies. You can hate people because they're gay all you want, you can talk shit about wanting to stone them, and you can condemn them to hell. But what you CAN'T do is violate their Constitutional (Civil) rights.

I don't have any close friends that are gay either, as far as I know. But if I found out tomorrow that they were gay, would it change my friendship towards them? Absolutely not. They are my friends because they have shown me love & looked out for a nigga, and thats what I respect. I'm loyal like that. When you say that "they're sick in the head" your making a generalization, and that is never a basis for a strong argument, so that pretty much ends the rest of your post.

@React

1) To carry on a debate in technical terms you do have to be (highly) educated in that field. I'm not, and the more you talk the more clear it becomes that neither are you.

2) This is some conspiracy-theory bullshit. Sorry dog, that argument hold absolutely no weight.

3) (your #1) Stop arguing about semantics. We all know what "sexual orientation" means. As for your "homosexual agenda" that falls in the same category as #2 (conspiracy-theory bullshit)

4) (your #2) If the behavior is commonly practiced, it cannot really be called "abnormal." As for immoral and perverse, those are subjective terms, meaning that whats immoral to you may not (in this case is not) immoral to me. When you're the dictator of America, you can put into place laws that enforce your morality on everyone else. Until then, you're out of luck.

Pedophilia is not comparable to homosexuality because the former involves one party preying upon another unwilling party, or a party that, due to their age, can not be legally considered willing. Homosexuality involves consenting adults. It's really sad that you refuse to see this difference.

What "special rights" are you referring to? I don't know any "special right" that homosexuals want other than to be able to get married. If two gay guys want to get married, that has ABSOLUTELY no negative effect on me, my life, or the people I care about, so therefor I don't have a problem with it. If you mean shows like Next on Mtv that sometimes feature same-sex couples, I understand why people would be offended to see that, but I would argue that two heterosexual people acting like degenerates is equally immoral, but that refers back to my earlier point. I am not in a position to dictate people's morals, nor should I (or anyone else) be. Basically, if you don't like it, don't watch it. When you bring YOUR morals into a debate, that is the equivalent of bring your religious opinions into a debate; they hold no weight because, like I said earlier, they are subjective.

You can believe in a "homosexual agenda" all you want, but the fact is that YOU YOURSELF are not a credible source. Who leads the "homosexual agenda"? Where is its headquarters? Those are concrete questions that you can't answer because your referring to some vague, conspiratorial organization.

@ Kush City & React

It's clear that for whatever reason you two have serious issues with a homosexual's choice of lifestyle. At the end of the day, though, they're not going anywhere and I would advise you to accept it.

Lets not forget Dame is mad but he made Camron VP of the ROC at one point behind jays back. Lets not forgot jay-z was gonna let them keep the roc. All he wanted was the master to reasonable doubt. It Dame and Jay was boy dont you think it would have been a honorable thing for him to say " yo we boys, here are the masters to reasonable doubt" Fuck Dame he would not even have a name without jay-z. Jay-z made the ROC.

@ NYC_MINDED... (Spoken sarcastically) I really appreciate your use of the word "bullsh*t." Inspite of that, I will still respond to your post:
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U WROTE: "To carry on a debate in technical terms you do have to be (highly) educated in that field. I'm not, and the more you talk the more clear it becomes that neither are you."
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(LOL) Who needs to be "highly" educated to understand the basics of human sexual/reproductive functions. Do I need to go over the "Birds and the Bees" with y'all? 9th Grade Sex Ed class would suffice.
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U WROTE: "This is some conspiracy-theory bullshit. Sorry dog, that argument hold absolutely no weight."
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A conspiracy theory is something like "9/11 was an inside job." The homosexual agenda is no conspiracy; it's a social/political effort and initiative that has been laid out in plain sight for all to see. There are marches, speeches, and parades... in hollywood there are increasing gay subject matter, storylines, and characters... there are legal efforts such as legalizing gay unions... etc. And to make all of this acceptable to the masses (the great majority which happens to be straight/normal) there pro-homosexual pundits teaching everything from "gay genes" to "sexual orientation."
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U WROTE: "If the behavior is commonly practiced, it cannot really be called "abnormal."
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You totally misquoted me there (but still are incorrect). My point was NOT that it was abnormal based on whether or not it is accepted/practiced by the minority (and yes, homosexuals are a very small minority of the population). HOMOSEXUALITY IS ABNORMAL TO THE NORMAL SEXUAL FUNCTION OF THE HUMAN BODY. It's back to sex ed/birds and the bees again.
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Allow me to break it down for everyone: a penis of a male animal is designed/intended to function with a vagina (found in a female animal), not an anus. (LOL) That's where all of this stems from.
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It's like trying to drink a liquid through your nose or ear. That's not what those organs were made for. So, even if the majority of the population drank their milk through the nose, it would still be ABNORMAL BEHAVIOR.
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The ONLY way to condone homosexuality is if males mutated and evolved, and grew vaginas (LMAAAAO). Until then, it's perverted use and function of the sexual organs we have been pre-oriented with.
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U WROTE: "When you're the dictator of America, you can put into place laws that enforce your morality on everyone else. Until then, you're out of luck."
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Actually, virtually all laws are inherently based on morals or ethics. That's why it's not okay to LIE on the witness stand or on your taxes, etc. (more later)
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U WROTE: "Pedophilia is not comparable to homosexuality because the former involves one party preying upon another unwilling party, or a party that, due to their age, can not be legally considered willing. Homosexuality involves consenting adults. It's really sad that you refuse to see this difference."
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What's "sad" is not being able to see that the blatant connection is BOTH ARE ABNORMAL SEXUAL BEHAVIOR FROM THE BASIS OF WHAT IS PROPER. In the case of pedophilia, adults should not have sex with children. In the case of homosexuality, males should not (attempt to) have sexual contact with other males (its the whole biology thing again). Speaking of pedophilia, one can argue that it is actually LESS perverse than homosexuality, as far as biology and gender is concerned. AND, there is the law called statutory rape which technically prohibits an 18 year old from having sex with a 16 year old. Thats a good example of a law based on a moral code.
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We can go on and on about this (which we will) and you'll see that simple logic is the tallest hurtle for homosexuality to overcome. The favorite accusation of pro-homosexuality pundits is to say that those who are anti-homosexuality are "hating" others. But where do you see hate in my response? I, too, have friends that are gay, or "became" gay later in life. I don't hate them as persons, but acknowledge that their ACTIONS are improper/abnormal/indecent. It's like having a family member who is a heroin addict. You love the PERSON but don't approve of their actions.
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NYC_MINDED wrote: "You can believe in a "homosexual agenda" all you want, but the fact is that YOU YOURSELF are not a credible source. Who leads the "homosexual agenda"? Where is its headquarters? Those are concrete questions that you can't answer because your referring to some vague, conspiratorial organization."
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(LOL). Ever heard of GLAAD? Ever heard of any of the other hundreds of organizations in cities of countries across the world that organize marches, parades, sit-ins, protests? Ever heard of politicians who seek for the support of pro-homosexuality organizations by voting for bills that favor their causes? How do you think the push for laws permitting gays to marry or adopt came into being? Who's doing the pushing? And need I say more about the media and hollywood?
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LOL at "concrete questions"

NYC_MINDED wrote: "I am not in a position to dictate people's morals, nor should I (or anyone else) be. Basically, if you don't like it, don't watch it. When you bring YOUR morals into a debate, that is the equivalent of bring your religious opinions into a debate; they hold no weight because, like I said earlier, they are subjective."
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Even with the decay in American society, this country (and the world) still runs on morals and ethics. That's why there's an outcry when a politician or CEO has an affair. That's why in the current election people make a big deal over a candidate's past personal actions, such as whether or not he/she did pot, was an alcoholic, etc.
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U WROTE: @ Kush City & React. It's clear that for whatever reason you two have serious issues with a homosexual's choice of lifestyle. At the end of the day, though, they're not going anywhere and I would advise you to accept it.
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I've clearly detailed the "whatever" reason - According to medical journals, homosexuality is a mental disorder that leads one to engage in abnormal and perverse sexual acts with the same gender. So now it's "choice of lifestyle"? I thought it was "sexual orientation." True, their not going anywhere; but neither or the biological laws. I'll change my views when the facts change.

NYC_MINDED
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Just convince the world of one thing: that a penis is anatomically intended to be inserted in another man's anus. And that the two males can reproduce that way (which is what sexual intercourse is).
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Get past that one and I'll begin to take this theory seriously.

DAME IS CRYING CUZ HE BROKE AND OWE MONEY, PAY YA DEBTS HOMEY! 2 MILL PLUS INTEREST ON THEM TAXES, PLUS IF HE GOTTA GO TO FED COURT FOR THEM TAXES HE GONNA DROP ANOTHER MILL IN LEGAL FEES....DAME ACTIN BRAND NEW, HE DID SOME SLIME SHIT AND HOV TOOK HIM OUT THE GAME...HE SAYIN HOW HE WAS A BROTHER IN BUSINESS WITH JAY, BUT HE BROUGHT CAM IN WITHOUT CONSULTING JAY WHO HE SAY WAS HIS BUSINESS PARTNER AND BROTHER, SO JAY GOT THAT SUCKA DAME OUT HIS MIX, DAME DID A BITCH MOVE AND GOT PLAYED LIKE A BITCH THAT HE IS...DONT BRING CLOWNS LIKE CAM AROUND WHEN YA MAIN HOMEY DONT GET DOWN WITH THEM...AND DONT APPOINT THEM TO A PRESIDENCY....GOOD FOR DAME, THANKS TO A LIL CHANGE I TOOK YOU OUT THE GAME...I DIDNT LIKE JAY BEFORE, BUT I GUESS IT WAS DAME WHO I DIDNT LIKE. THAT ROC BOYZ JOINT IS FIRE....NO HATE/REAL TALK...DAME PAY YA TAXES, I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH MR. JOSH SAUDERBERG AT THE IRS, THEY WANT THEY MONEY IS T-BILLS FAST, NO PAYMENT PLANS THIS TIME.

Cracked WIndshield says...
1.typical of New York Niggers.....fake, no loyalty, back stabbers, haters......
2. Anyway RIP Sean Taylor and Kanye Mother
3. Find another topic besides Dame, 50 [don't fogrt Lay-Z, Shitset, and Siagon (the homo girl slapper]
4. I fucks with Styles P.....he underrated in the rap game
5.

November 28, 2007 2:22 PM
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Cosign! I've been to NYC (never will go again, though), and that's how they really are too so, this blog is only the tip of the iceberg. These niggers stay sippin' haterade.

@REACT

Dog...your pathetic....you got an insane amount of hate in your heart for people that have done absolutely nothing to affect you, your livelihood, or the well-being of your loved ones. Thats what it boils down to at the end of the day. Your arguments are totally ridiculous. It's pretty much impossible to argue against people like you, because you think that you know everything. That's obviously not the case, but go ahead and keep thinking it.

@REACT

Please explain to me in detail just why the fuck you got nothing to say about lesbians? You knocking the fags right, cuz they ain't anatomically correct for each other, but what about two dykes? See, that's where you fucked up, your whole story, all that fucking space took up, when all you had to do was say "I hate fags". So why you ain't just say it?

And in addition to that - why the fuck are you talking about that shit anyway? What's two dudes fucking got to do with hip hop?

Damn, I see why he did that. Dame is annoying as FUCK!

I have to agree with Mayo @some others.It's easy for MOfu's to sit-up and say "GET OVER IT" I want to see what the fuck some yall do if your'e boys fuck ya on the slick.I GURANTEE none of you wouldn't be sayin half the shit you putting out.