Posted on November 13, 2007 2:36 AM

Saigon was on the radio [listen] talking to a caller who asked about that fight he had with Prodigy a while back:
"N*ggas stay sex-on-the-beach.... come on man. ...That's a stupid question n*gga. ... He can't even come out his cell n*gga I'm The Yardfather. ... Let me tell you something about New York State Correctional Department: he can't come out his cell. Any jail he go to in New York state, he gonna get punched in his face wherever he goes. I'm The Yardfather. ...He can't go nowhere. The whole three-and-a-half years, he gonna be in a box his whole bid. He gonna be in his cell."
But according to Prodigy, jailtime is going to make him the next Malcolm X (*snicker*).
In addition to addressing Ballerina P the future inmate, Saigitty also said, "I made a mistake a signed to a major record label."
And by the way, Saigon spoke to SOHH about his album push-back. The Greatest Story Never Told will not be hitting shelves until next year. The further along they delay it, the more the name of the album seems like a curse.
Damn, Sai.

And speaking of Zshare links, check out Lil Kim's "Chillin Tonight" [listen] ...
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Here's G-Unit's video for "I Still Will," featuring Akon. Not saying I like the joint, but why didnt 50 stick with the hard-core sound used in this song for his lead singles? Instead of selling out and doing corny tracks with Timberfake and Robin Thicke, and coming up with trash like "Amusement Park," and the other single that I can't even remember the name of, he should've fronted his thugged out role a little more. Because now?
He f*ckin sucks.
Trash.
Basura.
Doo-doo.
Sounds like Jay's "American Gangster Live" show at the Hammerstein Ballroom in NYC was crazy Sunday night.

According to BET, Lil Whoopi hit the stage to spit the first verse off of Hov's "Hello Brooklyn," then called himself "the next rapper in line"-- a steep downgrade from his arrogant-- and very inaccurate-- proclamation as "the best rapper alive."
I guess f*cking with a real rapper who's been doing it big for over a decade-- consistently (key word: consistently)-- will do that to you. You run your mouth that much just to get invited by your so-called competition to spit a verse on his track only to do a half-ass job? LOL @ yourself.
Then moving on to the more important segment of the show, Hov brought the kid Jadakiss on the stage during "Roc Boys," announcing: "Ya'll already know Memph, ya'll already know Beans, ya'll already know Free. But what ya'll don't know... Ruff Ryder, Roc-A-Fella, Roc Boys, Jadakiss is in the building."
Hmmm. What we want to know is, is the ink still drying? Or does the line have yet to be signed?
In addition to the Young Gunz-- who I didn't know still existed-- performing "Can't Stop Won't Stop," Freeway, Memphis Bleek, and Beanie Sigel showing face, and Diddy stepping on stage for 50's "I Get Money remix," Hov did a dedication for Kanye West's late mother, Donda West, with a moment of silence. He also performed "Jigga My N*gga," "Big Pimpin," and other classics.
So Hov still knows how to put on a show. And sell over 400K the first week. Good sh*t.
I Been tellin Niggaz Prodigy Gon Do His Whole Time In A Box...Roc Boys yea But Where Tru Life N Uncle Murda!!!
saigon might as well sign to koch. wezzy will be the next rapper in line if he stops runnin his damn mouth.
Saying 50 Cent sucks is like saying Bush is weak.
I hate Bush's political, domestic and international, policies, but I'm not dumb enough...or biased enough, to not recognize how "powerful" he's made himself and how ambitious his policies are.
The same goes with 50. In no way can you say he sucks. "Curtis" wasn't a bad album. True, it was marketed horribly, songs were leaked, weak songs were pushed to the forefront, ill songs were censored and swiss cheesed up, and even better songs were cast aside all together. If you think 50 sucks, listen to "Sabrina's Baby Boy" the mixtape. Same guy, same pen, but entirely better album.
"Still Kill," Man Down," Moving On Up," "Fully Loaded Clip," "I Get Money," "Curtis 187," "All of Me" and even the smoothed out "Follow My Lead" are great songs. That's 8 songs from his album that easily top the average rapper's current material. Anyone saying otherwise is just blinded by their bandwagon-fueled bias.
I'm not even going to speak on Wayne. He's the most polarizing individual in the game now, igniting debates on issues ranging from artistry, authenticity, ambition, and even homosexuality. Dude's going down in history for making an entire culture look at itself and self-analyze.
when 50 pushes 690,000 he flopped?gay-z a.k.a self proclaimed g.o.a.t flops with 400,000 it's o.k?sohh just hates 50 but guess what......gay-z never has and never will outsell 50!ever!
Fuck that first bullshit. anyway why is everybody hatin on 50, is it because he's rich, or cause he dropped three platinum albums in a row, or because he dropped a mediocre album and still sold more than ya favorite rapper's last album. The video was straight kinda reminded me of Universal Soldier or even Soldier wit Kurt Russel, awe yeah I like Jay-z and all but I still don't understand what the hell he's doin, but shit I guess if you got the money then fuck it!
i heard when prodigy said jail is gonna make him like malcolm x. martin malcom rosa parks everybody from that era turned in their graves when he said that.
1st
Thats a gr8 look for Jada. I hope he represent cus that nigga got mad talent and a gr8 team to run with 2.
Ask for saigon, soon Atlantic is goin to drop him cus they are seeing that he is not goin to sell shit.
I'm on work so i cant see that 50 vid, but that song is hot so i expect a hot vid from 50(but i'm not at all a 50 fan).
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Kill yourselves haters!!!!!
Yeah 50 sucks right but the only time this bullshit website gets any hits is when you talk about him look to the right of your computer screen under hot topics 50 cent is always has the highest number beside his name. I Still Will by the way is better than any song on KanGay West faggot ass album sohh backs a homo like KanGay West rather than support real street hip hop like 50 Cent. I don't understand this website sohh hurts hip hop more than it helps it what would you rather hip hop not exist or would you just rather see hip hop stay stuck in the 90's forever because thats the only rappers this site seems to like are 90's rappers
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Dont make a fool out of yourself dude...Tru Life was on stage. Watch the video before you comment.
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What's good ya? That comment by Saigon was mad foul, I lost mad respect for him. He's been on lock before too so he should just keep his mouth closed. That Lil Kim song?? Hmm that was posted yesterday right??? Stay up ya!
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50 Cent's 1st week numbers are bad because he pushed 1.1mill last album. Jay's numbers are good because he hasn't gone to Justin Timberlake to get him a hit.
Somebody needs to tell that fool Saigon that nobody cares if he can beat up Mobb Deep this is music not boxing. As for music Mobb Deep have 4 hip hop classic albums The Infamous in 95 Hell on Earth in 96 and Murder Music in 99 and P first solo was a classic also. This fool Saigon dont even have a classic verse much less a classic song , much less a classic album. Saigon is in his prime he definitly wasent as hot as when Mobb Deep was in theres back in the 90's
50 sells 690 000 first week in which he was against a major comepetitor (Kanye) and thats called a flop.
Jay z does 450 000 his first week with a clear lane and you call that great stuff???
FUCK OUTTA HERE
50 sells 690 000 first week in which he was against a major comepetitor (Kanye) and thats called a flop.
Jay z does 450 000 his first week with a clear lane and you call that great stuff???
FUCK OUTTA HERE
50 sells 690 000 first week in which he was against a major comepetitor (Kanye) and thats called a flop.
Jay z does 450 000 his first week with a clear lane and you call that great stuff???
FUCK OUTTA HERE
50 sells 690 000 first week in which he was against a major comepetitor (Kanye) and thats called a flop.
Jay z does 450 000 his first week with a clear lane and you call that great stuff???
FUCK OUTTA HERE
50 sells 690 000 first week in which he was against a major comepetitor (Kanye) and thats called a flop.
Jay z does 450 000 his first week with a clear lane and you call that great stuff???
FUCK OUTTA HERE
50 sells 690 000 first week in which he was against a major comepetitor (Kanye) and thats called a flop.
Jay z does 450 000 his first week with a clear lane and you call that great stuff???
FUCK OUTTA HERE
50 sells 690 000 first week in which he was against a major comepetitor (Kanye) and thats called a flop.
Jay z does 450 000 his first week with a clear lane and you call that great stuff???
FUCK OUTTA HERE
50 sells 690 000 first week in which he was against a major comepetitor (Kanye) and thats called a flop.
Jay z does 450 000 his first week with a clear lane and you call that great stuff???
FUCK OUTTA HERE
50 sells 690 000 first week in which he was against a major comepetitor (Kanye) and thats called a flop.
Jay z does 450 000 his first week with a clear lane and you call that great stuff???
FUCK OUTTA HERE
50 sells 690 000 first week in which he was against a major comepetitor (Kanye) and thats called a flop.
Jay z does 450 000 his first week with a clear lane and you call that great stuff???
FUCK OUTTA HERE
it is about time one of you use the word consistency with Hov, every album since vol 3 has sold in the 450-650k range first week (and black album was a short week), 2-3 million every time out. See I am not hating on Wayne, he is ight, but not the greatest alive. He gets on a lotta tracks with avg cats and outshines them, u put him on a track with the big dogs (jay-z) and he comes up a little small. Jay never sold himself short when he was paired with Biggie twice!
God Damn Fuck Outta Here is a stupid mutherfucker 50's singles were flopping until he got Timberland and Justin. Jay is doing good numbers without doing Pop shit. Straight To The Bank FLOP Amusement Park FLOP Singing with Justin Timberlake HIT. If Jay did a song with Justin & Timbo he would move the SAME numbers as 50
WTF? how come 50s sales keep on chopping in half with every album? sorry but ur boy aint a consistent record seller, I understand he aint going to do 8 mil again (I am talking US only) then he sold 4, now with this one he wont make it to 2 mil (US only, selling another mil across the other continents are not a big deal to me)
Dennis stop trying to save ur boy 50s career, in a couple of more years he will be looked @ as an afterthought, someone who came and went (like Ja), his name will never be mentioned when it comes to talking about the top mcs of all time, cause he is all beats and hooks, no lyrics. let the man get his money cause when he is long gone, his name wont still be ringing bells like Big Pac and Jay
oh yeah and ur boy 50 is all about numbers, Jay is more consistent @ selling and on top of that.........critical acclaim is PRICELESS, Jay has had more classics than 50 has had albums! and he is getting more critical acclaim with American Gangster! 50s first (real) album was hot cause he was HUNGRY, he lost the hunger, Jay has the hunger to make classic material. 50 never dropped a classic!
WHO CARES IF 50 WONT BE MENTIONED IN THE SAME BREATH AS JAY OR PAC OR BIG??
BUT IN TERMS OF CASH HE WILL BE UP THERE WITYH PUFF AND JAY, WHILST YOU LOSERS ARE STILL HATING
HAHAHAHAHA
ur the one worried about his cash man, as Nasir once said "whats it all worth, cant take it with under this earth" thats why i said let him make that paper, cause he wont be remembered for being a great MC
50 shoulda dropped that video first thats the only decent song on the cd...akon killed it...who is saigon never heard of him???...lol his name sounds like a marvel character or something...as for Jada am I the only one who thinks he should have his own record label by now...he supposed to be a boss not a employee...I mean TI & young jeezy got they own label and they started after Jada...lol Jada rocked with BIG...he been in the game for over 10yrs and he still an employee...I dunno know Jada you lost a few stripes for that one...if im doing shomething for 10yrs I better be a boss by now...thats just me..
Okay Lil Kim gotta a nice joint there make me wanna stay in this weekend and handle some business.
I like that 50 video, it's on point.
Jada on the ROC, now that's a good look . I'm hoping for another Resevior Dogs that song went and still goes hard everytime I hear it.
1. man how you gonna say 50 cent suck when he sold more than Jay Z the first week.
2. Saigon you are garbage. why dont you shut the F up and put out your album. You act like you run NY and the jail. How you gonna tell this man he cant come out of his cell.. you an idiot
b. dizzle in the building tonight...
Sai and his people are fooling themselfs thinking he's that anticipated. Maybe to us folks (i'm checkin for him) that really know something about rap music, but for a vast majority of the listeners, they don't know who the hell he is. He should just give the people the damn disk already. He'll sale a reasonable amount for someone without a hit single and a small fanbase, and if he puts out hot joints, he'll be successful eventually. Nobody knew are cared who Robin Thicke was when he first dropped, but he evenually blew up because people found out his music was good. Same with Chamilionare and Corinne Bailey Rae.
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50 fucked up his career with that candy shit. none one to blame but himself. That G-Unit album looks like it'll be fire though. Hate if yall want but Tony Yayo got the hardest verse on that "Feel Good" joint, and that song is tight.
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I've been listening to that "American Gangster" intensly for the past week. I've come to the conclusion that the 75% of the best albums grow on you instead of instantly grabbing you in. I don't know if i'd call it a classic yet, but it's deffinitly in Jay's top 3 best albums. "Ignorant Shit" better be the next single.
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Is it me or does Lil Wayne sound like he's imitating Prince on "Hello Brooklyn"? I he kills his verse and the hook, but don't that nigga sound like he was rockin assless chaps in the studio when he was recording?
Wussup blog!
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@Brooklyn
I watched that Storyteller special, and man...it took me back. Tell me something, isn't that album more indication of the poo-poo that folks is settling for now a days. Them beats...good lawd...who made them beats on that album??
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After hearin that, it makes me not even wanna come in this blog no more and hear about no 50 Cent, or none of the other gibberish talk regarding "hip hop" now. It's just not what it used to be.
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A couple things I wasn't feelin....the cross Jigga man had on his back, and why the blue skulls flashin?
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And I think I've finally decided, in my older age...maybe I've become a "back packer." I think that term has just defined itself to me as I'm bumpin this Kanye West in my headphones at work. To me, back packer music is that which is meant to be enjoyed by one's self..where you can appreciate the tremendous beats, the flow of the lyrics and the entirety of the song. So based on that definition, it has also defined itself to me as "grown folks" music.
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I tell you what, you put this Kanye West on some headphones and feel the whole vibe of the CD. That dude is a monsta...I don't care what nobody says. Them beats is untouchable....but you gotta catch it in headphones where you can feel the entirety of it. Would love to hear this whole CD in a storyteller setting. There's so much to them beats that you miss on a quick run through.
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That Flashing Lights, Homecoming and Big Brother is insane.
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Ya'll be blessed!
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CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
50 cent still outsold kingdom come, so i know def jam and haters bought that kanye west joint, but r.i.p. im glad his mom got to see him go out on top.
50 cent that sabrina's baby boy is a cold mixtape...family matters whoa...this boy is still hungry.
jay-z is now like mike jordan on his second stint with the wizards: washin up fast. this "concept" album american wanksta is garbage ...stop lyin to yaself...his music dont move me, shit is lame as jay...jay was not a real hustla...he hung around some real hustlas...
tell me you get the same energy when blue magic comes on as you get when i get money or i still kill comes on and you lying...
jay's flow is bukake...i ran contraban that they sponsored..iran contra...please nigga let that LL album out and stop with your corny lines.
jay got nice lyrics and metaphores, but dude whole style is stiff, corny, and boring...
bobby drake says...
Is it me or does Lil Wayne sound like he's imitating Prince on "Hello Brooklyn"? I he kills his verse and the hook, but don't that nigga sound like he was rockin assless chaps in the studio when he was recording?
November 13, 2007 11:02 AM
I think its just you...weezy killed the hook and verse...even if weezy spit a hot verse people still find something bad to say about it..i dont understand people sometimes.
SWAG says...
50 shoulda dropped that video first thats the only decent song on the cd...akon killed it...who is saigon never heard of him???...lol his name sounds like a marvel character or something...as for Jada am I the only one who thinks he should have his own record label by now...he supposed to be a boss not a employee...I mean TI & young jeezy got they own label and they started after Jada...lol Jada rocked with BIG...he been in the game for over 10yrs and he still an employee...I dunno know Jada you lost a few stripes for that one...if im doing shomething for 10yrs I better be a boss by now...thats just me..
November 13, 2007 10:49 AM
I take my last statement back because I've been beating my dick for over 15 years and I'm still not as good as the PZ aka the boss of dick beating
for the asshole that said 50 dont have classics, 50 got mixtape that are more classic than jay's real albums, check 2050, check back in business, check sabrinas baby boy, check power of the dollar, 50 cent is the future, no mercy, no fear
they say jay aint run to justin, but didnt jay do joints with mary j blidge, and other artists to get a hit?
get rich or die trying = classic
jay only had 2 classics = reasonable doubt, blueprint...then nas ate him, dips got at him, jay os a clown
who ate 50? no one...
Yo... Fo realz I agree with SWAG.. Jada should be his own BOSS.. He's been in the game too long... Jada should've just signed as DEF JAM not under ROC. On the whole 50 vs. Jay thing.. I don't know I think 50 be riding Jay-Z d*ck... Every interview 50 does, he compares himself to Jay. 50 always trying to say he's better... But, 50 is always playin catch up.. For instance, Jay drops Kingdom Come, to try to switch it up and do the grown sh*t folk, then you get 50 dropping, Curtis, which to me seems like the similiar to Kingdom come, trying to appeal to a larger audience.. Then Jay-Z switches it up again to American Gangster.... Let's see 50 next project. Jamaica, Queens Gangster- Kenneth Supreme Griffin, starring CurtisSSs...
bobby drake says...
but don't that nigga sound like he was rockin assless chaps in the studio when he was recording?
November 13, 2007 11:02 AM
@PZ
the cross and blue skulls?? it was a hoody, ask the designer.
AMERICAN GANGSTA IS A CLASSIC ALBUM!!!!!
the whole album is hot and he address real life situations not fake tales.
but the "back packer" thing is stupid, i think music like kanye is real life music, shit u can relate to on a everyday person level not a black, ghetto, drug dealer, gang banger, etc... level just a everyday person level.
but that Hov album is sick, i been listening to it non stop since the saturday before it came out and have no urge to put another CD in.
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lil wayne verse on there was ass, all the wayne talk should be over, i always said wayne was a average rapper that sound "great" cause the MAJORITY of people he do shit with is ass.
IF IM BUGGIN' WHAT LINE WAS "FIRE" FROM THAT BROOKLYN 2.0? even wayne said he's the NEXT rapper in line, what happen to the best?
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and hov 1st week numbers being 400k is good for a great album. why 50 got so much flack? cause HE made it a competition. but i bet hov album dont get stuck like 50's album or kingdom come (see i aint bias)
niggaz always try to diss 50 for doing something they wack favorite rapper does...case in point:
"You Make Me Wanna" jadakiss featured Mariah Carey and was a much more commercially driven love song
k-i-s-s meeeeeeeeeeeee! and i just wanna make love...now thats a jada kiss love song ballad with mariah carey, jada and style did joint with j-lo and ben affleck in the video lickin her ass, but thats ok right get the fuck outta here..
lox was dancin in shiny suits and doing spins and pirrowets. and that gets a pass...fuck outta here...50 is the only nigga keepin this shit ganksta...he should be able to make and expand the types of music he does, but he still returns to the essence of that grimy NY queens hood shit...i still kill, curtis 187, my gun go off...respect 50 or die!
1thug says...
for the asshole that said 50 dont have classics, 50 got mixtape that are more classic than jay's real albums, check 2050, check back in business, check sabrinas baby boy, check power of the dollar, 50 cent is the future, no mercy, no fear
they say jay aint run to justin, but didnt jay do joints with mary j blidge, and other artists to get a hit?
get rich or die trying = classic
jay only had 2 classics = reasonable doubt, blueprint...then nas ate him, dips got at him, jay os a clown
who ate 50? no one...
November 13, 2007 11:37 AM
Didn't 50 got a song with Mary J blige on the Curtis Cd?
At least Jay Z don't be singing like 50 Cent or Lil Wayne. This is supposed to be street Hip hop not R&B !!!
@Brooklyn B
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Coincidence "god MC" has a cross bejeweled on his back? Naw man.
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Regarding the "back packer", my point is that it's the kind of music you might just toss your back pack on, with the headphones and just start headin down the street. So it makes sense to me.
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And you right about that Jigga. I think it's actually good that he's laying it out as entertainment yet at the same time addressin the ideas and thoughts behind the tracks showin the real life behind it. It brings it to life and then it becomes more than just ignorant "shoot em up and slang dope" type of music which is what comes across on so many other folks attempts.
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I bet your face is real strong though after listenin to that CD for that long. That's a lot of cheesin. lol
Besides 50 Cent singing all the time here is a list of real singers that have been on his CD's
Curtis Cd - Robin Thicke, Justin Timberlake, Mary J Blige, Akon
GRODT Cd - Nate Dog
The Massacre - Olivia and Jamie Fox
Jigga is the best to do it, hands down. He will have 10 number1 albums this week, tied with Elvis. No other rapper, can say that. As far as sales overall, Jigga has sold the most. Check the forbes list. Jigga is #1.
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I want to send a R.I.P. to another fallen soldier who was one of Brooklyn's Finest. It's been like 3 years.
ODB
Wu-Tang
LMAo @ 1 Thug, are u trying to bring mixtapes into this equation, wtf are u talking about, Rd, BluePrint, Black Album and American Gangster are classic, Get Rich was a hot album cause he was hungry, it is not a classic. Please spit a classic verse 50 has ever wrote and dont give me the first verse off of "in the club", u believe in that "gangsta" stuff way too hard my man, be easy
Why are you hatin' on 5-0? If he would have stayed with the same hardcore stuff, you would have criticized he for not having any content. He did what his label wanted him to do, found out it didn't work for "him". Now it's back to the drawing board. The album is not bad but because it is 50, people want some titanic album. His album is better that 90% of the rap acts out right now but if he is not better than say 98%, his album is garbage? Give me a break.
As for the Yardfather, all that clout he so called has his not getting his album out. Why do all these people act like they were Nino Brown in prison when the fact is 1 out of 4 people are going to get raped in prison!!! That number might be higher also. Should you really get props for not doing the right thing and going to prison. Something to teach the youth I guess.
Before he steps in the studio
"2 niggas in the front, 2 niggas in the back, 4 niggas strapped in grandpas Cadillac"
After:
Son I spit fire, how many niggas know 2 plus 2 is Fo'? Shit let me get back in this booth, uhhh how am I going to flip guns and crack again? Maybe I should do guns and crack and then talk about the girls, yeah yeah yeah man that'll sell. I dont care if Kanye believes in his music, guns and crack sell! Who got Robin Thickes number?
No oneee nooo oneeee
Prodigy is gonna be in protective custody, that nigga aint even gonna be in general pop for his cell location to matter.
And @ Haboogie, maybe your faggot ass will get raped in jail cause your a faggot, but in truth the only people getting raped in jail are molesters, rapists, snitches,and faggots, the lowest scum, which is prolly your type of crimes, so YOU would get raped. The average jail person doesnt have to worry about rape unless they're a true bitch who scared of people and shit.
B- Stuy Long says...
I want to send a R.I.P. to another fallen soldier who was one of Brooklyn's Finest. It's been like 3 years.
ODB
Wu-Tang
November 13, 2007 12:17 PM
Yall forgot to realize that since we're in the age of downloading albums now..that ur fav rapper will not sell as many recs as before...niggas will never see a 1.1 mil in a short week again!!! So with that being said: 50 and Jay albums so called flopping is def not the case...
On J-kiss: its a good look, he got that brand name...so he's gonna be a monster ya dig??
and finally LMAO @ Lil Whoopi!!
Yall forgot to realize that since we're in the age of downloading albums now..that ur fav rapper will not sell as many recs as before...niggas will never see a 1.1 mil in a short week again!!!
Oh, so its impossible for 1.1 mil people to download a album?? Thats out the question?? WTf, Kanye just sold 900 something first week.
Okay since im being a dumbass...so if a couple of years ago Kanye and 5th come out on the same day u think that they woulda sold more recs right??? and furthermore yeah its possible for 1.1 mil to be downloaded if U did it for FREE!! just think Jay, 5th, and Ye woulda did better #s if niggas aint get shit bootlegged or free off the 'net...dig??
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Kanye's mom died during a tummy tuck procedure.
@ Kush City, you seem to feel sensitive to the fact the Rapes Do happen in jail and it is not just the molesters or the rapist or what not. Plus I have never had the previlage of going to jail. You sound very hurt son. Did you get your cherry popped or something. Or maybe you are the Raper. Just saying
450,000 da first week aint no fucking flop every song was on da internet dont compare jay to niffty cent.Niffty is a ja rule wanna be he hated on ja for singing yet that all he does plus jay didnt need all dat fake hype for his shit like kanye R.I.P. DR.WEST .and niffty cent had going on.
@ haboogie
Great joke. LOLOLOL. Dont talk about street shit when you know nothing. Just stay away from bad people and you will be okay. You're "just saying" youre afraid of jail because youre a closet homo who would have the possibility of being raped. I was just tellin you jail is not a movie. You're the type of faggot who would get raped in the processing room. Now thats funny. Lil hip hop bitch, stop listening to rap, it isnt for you.
"The percentage who dont understand/ is higher than the percentage who do/ check yaself/ what percentage is you??" Jay-z
1Thug - dude you are a clown. You haters become so full of hate that it blinds yall to the obvious. Either that or you're just dumb as shit.
I'm a 50 and Jay fan and the truth is 50 sold more than Jay BECAUSE of the buzz surrounding him and Kanye at the time. Neither Kanye or 50 would have sold as much without that Publicity stunt. People treated that shit like it was an election.
Jay didn't have nearly as strong of a marketing scheme. And I would consider Chris Brown and Cassidy decent competition. Especially Chris Brown.
Bottom line - Neither one of them flopped. Jay has gotten extremely good reviews for this album so you can expect to good numbers coming from this album long after the first week.
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What's good ya? That comment by Saigon was mad foul, I lost mad respect for him. He's been on lock before too so he should just keep his mouth closed. That Lil Kim song?? Hmm that was posted yesterday right??? Stay up ya!
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Saigon's album will be in a box it's whole bid.
PZ says...
I tell you what, you put this Kanye West on some headphones and feel the whole vibe of the CD. That dude is a monsta...I don't care what nobody says. Them beats is untouchable....but you gotta catch it in headphones where you can feel the entirety of it. Would love to hear this whole CD in a storyteller setting. There's so much to them beats that you miss on a quick run through.
November 13, 2007 11:19 AM
the news nigga says...
Kanye's mom died during a tummy tuck procedure.
November 13, 2007 1:08 PM
@Kush City, If you knew anything, you would know that you just quoted someone who never been to jail but you still think he is street. Just because someone is raised around the ghetto doesn't mean you have to fall to the ghetto. If you have walked in my shoes or seen the things I have seen, I gurantee you that you would cry like the bitch you are. Don't tell me about the streets when the closes thing that goes as real is a line from Jadakiss. Just ask any C.O., if you know one from the viewpoint of not being behind bars yourself. It is a dog eat dog world in there. If you like going to jail, maybe you like hot man on man action also. Instead of fighting with me because you hold your jail time as a badge of honor, if you even have been to jail, and tell the people especially the kids the real deal with jail. Stop adding the ignorance.
And the winner is PZ...my man? SPEECH!
First of all I wanna say I love gay sex
Thats most important next to the church givin me checks
Thanks to the faggs, that apart of my chior mass
The silver collection plate for holding all this cash
Boys in church who let me buss a nut on his ass
Even though that fool gave me a rash
The Church Boys in the building tonight
Oh what a feeling I'm
Praising Christ
Fuck all you lames who poke fun in the lords name,
One Prayer from me & Christ will tear that ass out the frame
Jesus Christ will stop your bafoonery
Especially the person thats Bootlegging the SEALS CD
To Dude and them, you know Dre Guverra and them
You know the one sayin watch my feet man
Yeah, thanks to God for masturbation
And most importantly you, the congration
Chorus: PZ [Kanye West]
The Church Boys in the building tonight
Oh what a feeling, I'm feeling life
You don't even gotta pull your penis out
SEALS are the faggs of the year, dicks is in our mouths
[They in our mouth, mou-, mou-]
The Church Boys in the building tonight
Oh what a feeling, I'm Praising Christ
You don't even gotta pull your penis out
SEALS are the faggs of the year, dicks is in our mouths
[They in our mouth, mou-, mou-]
[They in our mouth, mou-, mou-, HEY]
NOW GO GET YOUR SHINE BOX!!!
I am a fan of all three rappers ( Jigga, Fiddy, and Weezy). Stop hating on 50 because he gets money and outsells Jay-Z. I admit Jigga is a better rapper but the man did say Men lie, Women lie, and numbers don't. So what does that say about him and 50? And Wayne is hot stop hating on the dude and listen to what he says in his raps. Its a whole lot better than most rappers today. He is very creative in his raps. Jay-Z is still the greatest but I don't believe you are a true fan of hip-hop if you don't believe that Wayne is next in line. Check his rap sheet Wayne been in the game for about 8 to 10 years.
all these people talking shit about 50 i bet you want say in his face bitch ass nigger by the way sohh blog need to be shut down
What's good ya? That comment by Saigon was mad foul, I lost mad respect for him. He's been on lock before too so he should just keep his mouth closed. That Lil Kim song?? Hmm that was posted yesterday right??? Stay up ya!
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Thats "Sabrina's Baby Boy" right there. Like the vid. Didn't like Curtis that much but that Sabrina's Baby Boy mixtape has been in my deck 4 the longest. 50 go hard on that muther, thats the 50 I love. We need more of that mixtape 50, the real 50.
for the record, cats like Haboogie, trying to sell/discredit ur street cred on a message board doesnt make u any tougher, its only the internet
this is jay's 10th album (not to mention the 2 with r.kelly and the 1 with linkin park and the streets is watching and mtv unplugged) not his third like 50 cent and kanye (who works for jay by the way) so 50 and kanye should be sellin more. lets see after 10 solo albums if 50 cent is still relevant i think kanye will but only time will tell-AMERICAN GANGSTER IS A CLASSIC
my homeboy used to be locked up wit saigon, he was called shy girl, in the box, yardfather, cuz he was blowing guards for yard time, now he out he wanna be saigon, i try to shake that image too
cosign, im in new york and heard that sht about shy girl, too, real talk, well look at the pudgy bastard, who would let a chubby two chinned punk say run anything in prison besides tube steaks up his ass, saigon you cant fool nobody u can sure run fast for a fat fuck i saw the video
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SHIT ON KIM FACE?
@kushcity
its different in LA my boy...
we dont rape mem in jail out here unless he a homo, child molester, rapist (and in some cases they get a pass)...
are on some gang shit were the victim is from the gang are from a enemy gang....
if you black and stay to yourself and get down for yours when its that time... you good in the box out here...
shit the county is wayyyyyyyy worst then the pen out here...
now in Y.A its a diffrent thing!!!
now if the queens card is real they wont let yo boy get raped in there... maybe some scrapin/razor tag but not a rape...
Like dude stated earlier these clowns at Sohh like to hate on 50 cent and say how much he sucks but everyone time they write something on 50 cent the traffic on this site go up. Look how many post a 50 cent post get versus anyone else. If 50 cent sucks so bad dont post anything but Sohh wont do that because it would have to shut this wack a$$ site down because of lack of hits. No matter what they think of 50 if anyone else sales less than 691,000 first week in 07 which 99% of everyone else has call a flop like you called it with 50.
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What's good ya? That comment by Saigon was mad foul, I lost mad respect for him. He's been on lock before too so he should just keep his mouth closed. That Lil Kim song?? Hmm that was posted yesterday right??? Stay up ya!
http://cyberthugs.wordpress.com
Listen were going to end this conversation about 50 cent and his proclaimed "pop" singles versus his "street" singles right now! First the majority of 50 cent's music is very aggressive but he always had marketability even before he was shot! If you take the radio and video singles from his first album Get Rich or Die Trying you will get-Wangsta, In the Club,I'm a P.I.M.P, Many Men, 21 Questions and If I can't.What is so gutter and hardcore about them. On his second album his singles were- Candy Shop, Disco Inferno,In my Hood, Piggy Bank,and Just a Lil Bit. On his lasted offering you have: Str8 to that Bank, Fully Loaded Clip, I still Kill, I get money and Ayo Technology !
Sounds to me like his formula is pretty consistend a mixture of party songs,and street music!
50 cent is the same to me cus one thing u have to figure besides Lil Wayne he is probably the hardest working man in Hip Hop.He's always on the mixtape scene and drop a crazy amount of mixtape music. So for his career he will alway be in the top 10 most hardcore artist. The only thing that has changed about 50 cent's music and u can print this is he's turned down the use of punchlines and metaphors! Other than that stop saying he's soldout ! Since he blew up his formula and music really isn't that different. Go listen to Curtis and GRODT! GRODT may be a better album but Curtis is still a 4.0 out of 5 to me! All 50's albums have been album.Like i siad i just wish he and Banks would step up their punchlines! Banks used to be the second best after Kiss with his punchlines and now he's lost his mojo, hopefully he will get it back on the new G-unit album.
fck whoever rote dis shit...50 wil b rememberd for bein he best ever rapper wen es gone...dnt argue just wait nobody can rite as many songs which r gd as d kid... n yea 50 creates his own buzz.proli cus es had the BEST rap albums n mixtapes EVER...believe it r not 50's d best rapper.who's better jay-z?? plz,dat man got ate by nas who sucks now 2...SHOT TO KILL!!!!
niggas dont read much... weez fucked wit the hello brooklyn track a minute ago and then hov picked it up and spit on it.. wouldn't weezy actually spit hard if he knew from the beginning it would be a track on jay cd.. haters hate
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