How many have forgotten about this?

So Joe Budden has served his four years in prison and is now a free man. This was sent to SOHH exclusively via email:
"I'm probably then only guy on earth happy 2 be unsigned......honestly
this move is 3 years late, I want 2 thank the fans 4 being so patient,
and def jam 4 not realizing what they had... 2day is a new day."-- Joe Budden
Actually, he might be ONE guy out of many that are happy to be unsigned. Papoose came first.
Lupe Fiascogate-- that's what everyone is calling him-- called into DJ Kay Slay's Sirius Satellite radio show to speak on the Tribe Called Quest controversy. He said Vibe Magazine took an old interview he did a month ago and manipulated this quote...
"[Tribe] didn't sell 10 million records, so why would people think they had a blanket on the world like that? MC Hammer was way more popular to me than Tribe Called Quest.""Because there's kids in Harlem who right now would never ever listen to Midnight Marauders, I don't give a f*ck what you do, they'll never listen to Q-Tip."
...to make it look as if he was responding to Q-Tip's statement that was given to Miss Info. And because of all this, says Fiasco, he will be suing Vibe for "defamation of character."
Nah, seriously. I really feel bad for homie now. All jokes aside.
Listen to the interview here.
But think about it: Would the folks over at Vibe be so foolish to set themselves up like that? This is journalism. We know what is and is not acceptable. Manipulating a quote to the tenth, especially in this manner, is a big red "X." When taking something out of context, shady journalists usually try to be more subtle; they pick and pluck out a few words and insert their own, knowing that the artist won't exactly be able to recollect what he really did say verbatim. But this? kind of iffy. I'm not saying it's never been done, either. But what I do know is that when artists fall into violent scrutiny by the public, publicists often give their clients a pep-talk before an interview, advising them to tell a "pretty lie" to justify or sugar coat whatever mishap that had occurred. They even tell the artist exactly what they should say. In short, Fiascogate is lying. Poor dude. He'll be iight though.
And for the record, Kay Slay needs to get rid of that corn-ass clown he has on the air with him. Absolutely ridiculous. But of course it must be all for jokes.

Check out the official info for Nas' greatest hits compilation, in stores November 6th.
NAS - GREATEST HITS - Tracklisting
1) Surviving The Times (newly recorded)
2) Less than an Hour (Theme from Rush Hour 3) (newly recorded)
3) It Ain't Hard to Tell (from Illmatic)
4) Life's A Bitch (from Illmatic)
5) N.Y. State of Mind (from Illmatic)
6) One Love (from Illmatic)
7) If I Ruled the World (Imagine That) (from It Was Written)
8) Street Dreams (Remix) Feat. R. Kelly (original from It Was Written;
remix from 2002's From Illmatic to Stillmatic: The Remixes EP)
9) Hate Me Now Feat. Puff Daddy (from I Am ... The Autobiography)
10) One Mic (from Stillmatic)
11) Got Ur Self A ... (from Stillmatic)
12) Made You Look (from God's Son)
13) I Can (from God's Son)
14) Bridging the Gap Feat. Olu Dara (from Street's Disciple)
Irv Gotti spke with Hot 97's Angie Martinez. I know he has a reality show coming, but I don't see a comeback for The Inc. any time soon. Especially with all the shut-downs Ashanti has been receiving and Ja Rule constantly getting dissed for his sex-kitten vixen video.
I am, however, checking for that VH1 "Salt N Pepa Show."

I woulda loved to see what goes around comes around (poison) on nas's greatest hits, not that i woulda bought it as i got all the albums and made a nas compilation of my own. I also hate when niggas put knew shit on they album like the rush hour 3
Nas is truly a legend....and I wouldnt mind seeing Irv make a big comeback...And I still think Lupe is nice regardless
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that nas greatest hits cd is garbage. the tracklisting is bullshit and only 14 songs?! and dont get it twisted, nas is my favorite mc! they should have made a "best of", not a greatest hits.
I think we can all breath a sigh of relief that Nas dropped Oochie Wally frm the greatest hits tracks.
Joe who.....oh u mean the pump, pump, pump it up nigga. that was my shit even though nobody else in my clique felt it. His mainstreem career is a wrap, but dude is still nice. i wish him well.
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This Lupe stuff has went too far. No one really cares. But Reckless, WTF do u know about journalism? For real though, your one of the worst "reporters of news" on all the hiphop sites. No wonder SOHH lost the "best hiphop website award". 90% of it is probably your fault.
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Reckless = Rex Grossman of Sohh
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I hate to point this out, 4 of the 14 songs off of Nas' greatest hits, not counting 2 new ones, come from the same album. (proff that he has a one hot album every 10 year average. LAME!!!) #14 and #12 are two of his most boring releases IMO. Plus there are no songs coming from one of the most misguided rap albums of all time, better known as Street Disciple. No thank you Nas, i'll can make this "greatest hits" album using Limewire, or burn them on disk from my Ipod library.
streets disciple was the shit hands down, i dont see how people could hate on that album
I understand that this is a greatest hits cd, and not necessarily a best of, but damn, no Ether? Who made that call? Oh yeah, I think we all know who.
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The game is fucked up when new jacks start dissing legends. Fuck Who-Pe? for that shit. Little peon fuck stay in ya lane and bow down to greatness.
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nas where is Ether? without that joint I don't think there would be a Nas album coming out this year.....just my thoughts....that song was one of his best and really brought him back to life.
damn nas you should have killed them with "take it in blood!"
niggas aint ready still i guess...
I guess one hit wonders are made when labels abandon an artist after one huge hit. Joe Budden is a one hit wonder. I can't even recall his song right now but the momentum is gone for him. It's too bad the label did him in.
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I don't see how that Lupe quote is any differant or less offensive than the one we discussed yesterday. Still I ain't gonna waste anymore breath on the cat.
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I'm looking forward to Gotti and Salt & Pep's shows. I really want to see Irv as a human because right now I think he is an asshole wankster of the highest order.
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I'm from the tri-state area, yet I have never developed a taste for Nas. One Mic is the only song he released that I was feeling.
Nas got more powerful joints than Ether. Its just that niggaz like controversy. And Nas murked Jay with it.
Yeah a greatest hits dont really fit Nas. Maybe it should have been a #1's or a Best Of Volume 1. Nas catalogue is sick.
Joe Buddens went gold and Def Jam did not release his seconds album way before Jay-Z arrived. I remember one of their execs saying they didn't want him to be known as the pump it up guy and was trying to get him to make better singles. Apparently he didn't accomplish that. NOBODY sits on an artist after they go gold. Even Diddy wouldn't.
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End of the day all of yall are on Tribes nuts. They are only considered legends because they came out in the early years of hip hop on wax. Basically everybody back then are considered legends in the eyes of people today and that's pretty dumb. That's like automatically giving an old person a pass because they're old even if they're wrong.
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Irv Gotti and Ja Rule are done. I swear to god if I read another dude LYING on a website claiming they liked murder inc before 50 came I'm going to smack you homie. I never knew ANY ANY ANY ANY ANY ANY dudes who had Ja Rules cd's EVER. I remember before 50 came out I was driving my car and my mother left her Ja cd in that shit. Somebody seen it and was like wow you like Ja Rule. STOP LYING. Nobody that has a penis ever liked him except that murder murder track but that was his first one ever. We didn't know the real him. Ashanti is done and so is the Michael Jackson fag looking kid
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I don't see how anybody can like Nas. He is a fraud in so many ways and he only has a few hot songs here and there always with someone else doing the hook. That is a sign of someone who IS NOT a true mc. If he was a true mc like he says, his hit songs would be him on the hook. Only like 2 of his hit songs have him on the hook and don't bring up illmatic because nobody was copping illmatic cd's til the Jay-Z beef then niggaz started buying it off ebay.
FUCK LUPE BIATCHCO.
WHAT NOW HE HARD, CAUSE PEOPLE MADE FRONT OF THE FACT HE WAS WACK ALL THE WAY AROUND.
NOW YOU WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW YOU HARD CORE OR SOME SHIT. NIGGA COME SEE A REAL MEN, LUPEY YOU A BOY!
lupe needs to be smacked for mentioning tribe and mc hammer. thats what happens when u let non-nyers to join new york hip hop stars (old or new). nuff respect to the tribe, but midnight marauders is not a classic. stop talking about ether. the record was good, but only good enough to get him a job with jay.
i meant tribe and hammer in the same sentence. truth be told, once phife started getting marquee rapping status, it was over. just like vin rock and naughty. LL is talking about he was a shorty uptown with the drug legends, i bet those dudes used to snap on his big ass head under that kangol. Someone tell LL that to catch up to his career, he should chase his hairline.
This could be a good thing for Joey, his career was at a stalemate!
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Good Morning,
First order of business today: The Black Cracker Movement would like to formally announce a new alliance with the WABA (Worldwide African Bootleggers Association). Late last night the BCM and the WABA decided to join forces in order of the destruction the White man. From this day forward, we encourage all Black Crackers around the Globe to buy bootleg movies made by only white companies. We also encourage all of our African Bootleggers to record only "white movies." The days of bootlegging black movies are OVER!!!! For years Black Crackers have supported our African Brothers in the bootleg business, so it's only natural that the two movements would joined forces.
How will this change effect Black Crackers? It won't, this will make things easier. In out quest of impregnating the white female, some of our Black Crackers brothers have been forced to attend movies screenings. In the past some of us were even subjected to view these "white movies" in order to please our white bitches. Now that only "white movies" will be available on bootleg DVD, the average Black Cracker will no longer have to go the movies with their white bitch. Thus minimizing the ridicule from our Beautiful Black Nubian Queens, when they see us out with our white bitches.
Another benefit of this alliance is Black Filmmakers will be making more money and the White Filmmakers will lose money. In 2006 the WABA was responsible for 80% of all bootleg movies and music. Since the WABA has agreed to stop bootlegging Black movies, more black people will have to legally pay for these movies now, thus creating more revenue for Black Filmmakers. Once our Black Filmmakers start making more money, they will create more black movie projects, thus creating more roles for black actors. This is a "win-win situation." We are hitting the White man where hurts (his pockets) and gaining economical independence at the same time. Unfortunately we could not get the WABA to stop bootlegging black music. Our request was denied because a majority of the WABA revenues comes from black music. Rest assured the Black Cracker Movement is in the process of coming up with a solution to this music situation. Nevertheless, this new alliance marks another small victory in the war on the White man!!!
Thank you for your time,
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@ Ahem and anyone else silly enough to dis Nas..
Illmatic went platinium in like '93, wtf r u talking about. I see your a young dude so you'll get a pass but Nas is most definitely a legend and should be respected as such. Ya'll young dudes need to listen to the music before you start talking shit. Also it would help to know what the fuck your talking about too.
As for Lupe, he's officially a clown. Like people said, if you don't respect Tribe's music or their contribution then don't do a tribute to them on an awards show, that's fake as hell. Especially when you can't even take the time to get they lyrics right. As far as the Hammer quote, maybe he was misquoted by Vibe, the media do be on some shit so I guess we should wait until all the facts come out, but Lupe should just fall back cause he ain't helping his cause. By Lupe's logic the Ying Yang Twins are better than him because they sold more records and more people were influenced by their style of music than his. You see how stupid that shit sounds?
Imma partially defend Lupe, he never said Hammer was better, just mo popular, which was a fact, i was 10 when that hammer joint came out, and i made my mama buy it and lookin back, yeh it was nonsense album, but it was a multi platinum grammy album. every thing else lupe said was whack, show sum respect, how u gon honour a nigga, forget his words, then say u aint like a nigga like that anyway SMH
@ Everyone expecting a REAL Nas album:
Let's not forget, this is Nas' album, yeah, but Columbia is releasing it, not Def Jam. This is just a album to get out of the contract, people. Nas prolley has less than 2% say-so over the songs being used (Why would Ether be on there if he aint beefing with Jay no more??? There's the 2%). No, your not getting Thief's Theme, The N, Virgo, 2nd Childhood, Black Republican, Just A Moment, Life's A Bitch, Why? remix (1 of the best Nas verses of all time), You're Da Man, Project Windows....... it's NOT happening, deal with it.
AHEM says...
End of the day all of yall are on Tribes nuts. They are only considered legends because they came out in the early years of hip hop on wax. Basically everybody back then are considered legends in the eyes of people today and that's pretty dumb. That's like automatically giving an old person a pass because they're old even if they're wrong.
I don't see how anybody can like Nas. He is a fraud in so many ways and he only has a few hot songs here and there always with someone else doing the hook. That is a sign of someone who IS NOT a true mc. If he was a true mc like he says, his hit songs would be him on the hook. Only like 2 of his hit songs have him on the hook and don't bring up illmatic because nobody was copping illmatic cd's til the Jay-Z beef then niggaz started buying it off ebay.
October 11, 2007 8:48 AM
BOY!!!
GET UR DUMB ASS OFF THAT GOT DAMN COMPUTER & TAKE UR STUPID ASS 2 SCHOOL, & I'M TELLING U IF U BRING HOME ONE MORE "F" U BETTER THINK ABOUT WHERE U'LL BE SLEEPING, BECAUSE U AIN'T STAYING IN THIS HOUSE, U DUMB BASTARD!
Tell me who put out a better album or mixtape in 05 (or whenever it came out) then Mood Muzik 2? Tell me? Nobody!! exactly!!! Joe goes in everytime he touches the mic! Go listen 2 that freestyle he did on Greenlanterns show in march! He killed it! Dont sleep on Joey
@ Ahem,
U said the Tribe R only considered legends b/c they came out on wax? WTF?
SMH
& Now on 2 more serious matters....
My Nas Greatest Hits album would go like this....
The World Is Yours
Nas Is Like
It Ain't Hard To Tell
Life's A Bitch
The Message
Doo Rags
Made U Look
Thief's Theme
Street Dreams (The Original)
I Gave U Power
NY State of Mind
Ether
Blaze A 50
The Life We Chose
If I Ruled The World
Hate Me Now
No Idea's Original
One Mic
P.S.
Joe Buddens is a beast on the mic, y'all know he ripped Game a new one, stop frontin'
Hip Hop Album Sales: Week Ending 10/7/07
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October 10th, 2007 | Author: Aliya EwingNew Hip Hop releases are excluded from the coveted top three Billboard spots as Bruce Springsteen, Rascal Flatts, and Matchbox Twenty take those places (respectively)
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17-year-old Soulja Boy, no doubt due to the popularity of his single "Crank dat (Soulja Boy)" holds the #4 spot this week. His debut album, Souljaboyttellem.com sold 117k. Following Soulja Boy at
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#5 is singer J. Holiday whose Back of My 'Lac album sold 105k in its first week.
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Keisha Cole's Just Like You dropped four spots to #6 selling 94k (376k total), while
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Kanye's Graduation takes #7 with 92k (1.41M total).
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Trey Songz's Trey Day Debuted at #11 selling 74k copies, while
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50 Cent's Curtis lags behind at #17 selling 50k and still short of platinum status (957k total).
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Chamillionaire's Ultimate Victory holds the # 48 spot selling 17k this week (124k total).
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Gorilla Zoe took a deep dive from his #18 debut last week. Welcome to the Zoo dropped to #50 this week selling 16k copies (52k total).
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Boyz in Da Hood's Back Up n da Chevy debuted at #51 selling 16k.
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After starting at #10 only three weeks ago, Twista's Adrenaline Rush 2007 has dropped to #83. The Chicago rapper sold 11k this week (69k total), while
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Gucci Mane's Trap-a-Thon came in at #105 in its 2nd week selling 7k (20k total).
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Will.I.Am's Songs About Girls debuted 2 weeks ago at #38 and now holds the #107 spot with only 7k sold (28k total).
Yo, Ahem,
I agree with you about being old doesn't make you a legend. But if you we're one of the builders of something, then you are automatically a legend and a master. ATCQ is definately legendary and one of the best to do it. That's like saying James Brown ain't funky becuase George Clinton made funk music louder and more flashy. Or Muhammed Ali ain't a legend because he didn't hit as hard as Tyson.
@ AHEM:
You have got to be like 12 years old if you really think nobody bought "Illmatic" until NAS was beefing w/ JAY. "Illmatic" was (and still is) the most influential/groundbreaking album of the '90s. Learn your history, young'n.
Yo, Ahem,
As far as Nas goes, I heard the freestyle dis on Street Warz BEFORE Ether or Stillmatic dropped. I bought the album when it dropped because it was nice. Everybody had that album when it dropped. Nas is one of the best to ever pick up a mic, old school or new depending on how you look at it. It sounds like you were born in the mid to late eighties, and possibly the nineties. If so, then that would explain why you would make the comments you posted.
Brooklyn B:
DAMN!!!!! Those sales are horrible. Big up to Kanye for continuing to hold it down. I woulda never thunk Will.I.Am would sell so poorly. I thought the white folks loved him. I guess Keyshia is doing ok, right? Did her last album do better. Anyway, these numbers are sad man.
Peace to Dre "watch my feet" Guverra and Brooklyn B
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...fir Lupe
Those words should never come out of anyone's mouth. ATCQ are lyrical legends as well as production legends. Concept albums and all, these guys would still sell more records on one release than Lupe would sell in his career. I love Lupe's skills, as well as his content. But if that's his opinion, then so be it. I grew up on Ice-T, ATCQ, Spice 1, Too $hort, 8-Ball & MJG, Ice Cube, NWA, Jungle Brothers, Dougie Fresh, Kool Moe Dee, LL Cool J, Jay-Z, Nas, MC Lyte, Da Brat, Crucial Conflict, Biggie, etc. I still recognize all of them as important, and believe any one of them would still get play anywhere in the world. To compare ATCQ to MC Hammer in anyway other than record sales and fame is ignorant. I even recognize MC Hammer as important as well, becuase at times he even chose to speak on positivty even though he was from the streets of Oakland just like Suge Knight and Spice 1. Lupe should apologize and not make excuses for his comments. Forget Vibe. If he never said those words, they could never misquote him.
Bird says...
Brooklyn B:
DAMN!!!!! Those sales are horrible. Big up to Kanye for continuing to hold it down. I woulda never thunk Will.I.Am would sell so poorly. I thought the white folks loved him. I guess Keyshia is doing ok, right? Did her last album do better. Anyway, these numbers are sad man.
October 11, 2007 10:23 AM
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There's a wonderful, beautiful, surreal explanation for these lame ass dudes not selling. These are only the AMERICAN Nielson Soundscan #'s. Who the hell in China wants to "Superman that hoe"??? Who the hell in England even understands what the hell that means??? J. Holliday (DC stand up!!!!) is my dude too, but songs like "Bed" and "Be With Me" stop making noise EXACTLY right about where the U.S. Border Patrol posts up.
Get off Lupe. We all know how the media twists shit and hope that motherfuckers don't sue them. Lupe tried to explain that shit and all of you are still hating. Get a job, get a life, get off the internet and stop letting Reckless' political ass dictate how you all should think. He gave Tribe some love and it wasn't some old written ass report by a motherfucker trying to create controversy. This is how motherfuckers get in and divide us as a people. Get off the media's nuts, stop hanging from Reckless' tit's and think for yourself. Young faggots.
Peace to the real!
Nas is the best in hip hop history btw. I go back to the early 80's on hip hop and he has the longevity, catalog and swagger. For all you young motherfuckers, don't start speaking and dropping names of people you don't know either. If you haven't heard some of their shit, then don't challenge my opinion. If you feel someone is better, make your case. But, don't go googling track listings for joints that you've never heard before.
Joe Buddens, I'm say this.. I like Joe as an artist and his c.d. was aight, but nobody else bought into it and the powers that be seen that too, so that's why you never got your second chance at being a Big Dog on Def Jam, you wee, how can I put this a tax write-off.
Lupe had a point i there,by saying that kids in Harlem wouldn't listen to A Tribe... even though they was the shit IMO. It's just that most kids from the hood don't won't to be uplifted and listen to rhymes about what's going on in the world, they wanna hear what they are seeing when they step outside the house or what they want to acheive in the present and near future and thats mostly, money; hoes and clothes.
Nas greatest hit joint sounds good to go, but I would have liked that Oochie Wally joint on there, cause Jungle and Horse went in on that song.
Peter Griffin (no family Guy) says...
Peace to Dre "watch my feet" Guverra
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@ Peter Griffin,
what's with the "Watch my feet" business?
I understand I'm from the Chi, but not 2 many people here, including myself, even like that song, if that's what U wanna call it.
AHEM..... GO KILL YOURSELF, RIGHT NOW!!
Jay-Z: Gangster Musings 2.0
Published Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:20 AM
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By Chuck "Jigsaw" Creekmur
It's not really a make it or break it situation for Jay-Z. Still, the Def Jam president's tenth album, American Gangster, is critical in terms of his legacy and remaining relevant in a burgeoning era of T.I.’s , Lil’ Wayne’s and Kanye West’s. The late 30-something boss is calm and collected much like the infamous heroin pusher Frank Lucas who provided the inspiration for American Gangster. The album was put together in a short period and, in an even shorter period, the clamor began. The talk will continue as Hov reveals his side on Kanye’s “Big Brother,†his status compared to B.I.G. and Pac and the issue with LL Cool J. Oh, there’s also the matter of that album. [Click here to read "Jay-Z: Manifest Destiny (The American Gangster Story)"]
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AllHipHop.com: Do you still feel like you're sort of competing with B.I.G. and Pac even though they've been gone for over 10 years?
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Jay-Z: The funny things about that I really had to start slowing down because after a while when you start putting out so much, as great as they was it's kind of not a fair argument because they didn't get a chance to go through this thing - you have to go
through a lot, you gotta go through a lot of scrutiny and maintain a certain level. Though Pac has a lot of work, he put it all out at one time. If I made 17 records or when I was making Reasonable Doubt them s**ts would be retarded. They didn't get a chance to really fulfill their potential. When somebody's been around five years, it's different, and six and seven and as long as you be around and the longer you stay relevant, it's like “Damn, you can't really argue because they didn't really get a chance to go through it.†You don¹t
know what would have happened. It's like, you know, incomplete. What happens? What happens on a 7th album? 8th album? That shit is very difficult. Very difficult. That ain't easy. That's difficult. You know, ni**as when you fresh and crispy with the new slang - you could do that. You can just hit n***as with the slang, make the hook with the hot slang and ride it out. But to really make, 9, 10 [albums], it's something different.
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Interviewer: Your nephew has started rapping and making the rounds around New York City.
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Jay-Z: My nephew’s already winning a thousand talent shows. He’s already, uh, they had him on Hot97 and all kinds of stuff, winning talent shows. He wants to be a rapper. I mean I don¹t suggest at him. I want him to be whatever he want to be. Well, be a dope dealer….I wouldn't have let that happen. I told you I'm better than The Godfather, I did it. [laughing] But that's cool, if that's what he loves. As long as he knows the scrutiny that he's going to be under and the pressure that people are going to put on him and he's ready for that and he's willing to really work at his craft. That's what I tell him all the time. I don't even mess with him. I don't help him out. “Yo, work on your craft, work on it, work on it constantly until you get to a certain point, then I'll pull him.†Then he'll have a “Big Uncle†record and it'll be all good. [Referring to Kanye West’s “Big Brother.â€]
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AllHipHop.com: When did you start recording this album?
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Jay-Z: Maybe like three weeks [ago] total. Like I started, left a foundation, then I left it alone. The last two weeks, I really drew down on it.
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Interviewer: So there was no plan to do an album before you saw the film.
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Jay-Z: Nah…
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Interviewer: How did this album differ from all the other gangster movies you’ve seen?
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Jay-Z: Besides the Black guy being higher than the mob in everything…? [room laughs]
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Interviewer: You’ve put yourself in those positions before like as the Black Scarface.
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Jay-Z: I wasn’t hot when “Scarface†was hot. [room laughs] My Spanish action ain’t really all the way where it needs to be for that.
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AllHipHop.com: On “Blue Magic,†you say “F**k Bush.â€
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Jay-Z: Yeah. You had to pick that line. [room laughs]
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AllHipHop.com: I’m just saying… [room laughs]
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Jay-Z: It was really a triple entendre, double. “Money over broads, you got it, f**k bush.†F**k broads or f**k bush. I just thought it was some clever s**t. [room laughs]
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AllHipHop.com: Aiight.
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Jay-Z: That s**t was f**kin’ hot! The s**t is layered, man. F**k Bush. Get outta here or f**k bush. F**k bush! Come on, man. [room laughs.]
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Interviewer: You brought back “Ignorant S**t.â€
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Jay-Z: Yeah, its like one of those jams that you feel bad you let go. I recorded that for The Black Album. And it leaked, but I thought it was so great. “Ignorant S**t – conceptually in the album – when you are out of control saying, “F**k, s**t, a**, b***h, and you just going crazy. It also deals with censorship as well. It serves two purposes.
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Interviewer: You think Scarface the rapper is going to look at you sideways [for rapping about him]?
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Jay-Z: No, I’m sticking up for him. I’m saying “Scarface†did more than Scarface the rapper. I’m on his side. So no, absolutely not. Unless he wants to be in trouble. That s**t on him. Nah, Brad is my boy.
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AllHipHop.com: You’ve had over a 10-year run in terms of recording albums. What keeps you motivated?
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Jay-Z: I like the challenge of it. With rap music, you can make a hundred classic albums in a row and somebody make a hot song and compare you to him. It’s the only sport like that – well basketball a little bit. [They] did compare Harold Minor to Jordan when he first came out; for one second. But, the challenge of it. If everybody was like, “Alright, you got it [you’re the best]†then there wouldn’t be any reason to record an album. I’d go shoot jump shots at the next practice facility. The challenge of making material.
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AllHipHop.com: Did you ever go through a phase – and there is this whole G.O.A.T. discussion we can get into that too…
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Jay-Z: Yeah, that’s what we here for, n***a. [room laughs]
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AllHipHop.com: At one point, it seemed like you have to continuously tell us that you were the G.O.A.T. A lot of us feel like you had already established that without needing to say it. At one point, you were telling us a lot.
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Jay-Z: You have to say it if you want it, right? You gotta manifest your destiny. You gotta put it out there if you really want people to believe. I didn’t want anybody to guess.
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AllHipHop.com: Is there a possibility of you and LL Cool J lyrically going at each other?
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Jay-Z: Nah, I don’t think that’s [possible]. I’m sick of that. I don’t even want to be in that type of…its getting nasty for me. LL Cool J is great. You don’t have to market LL Cool J. If people were saying [LL’s last album Todd Smith] was fantastic, lets push it. That’s different. At some point you gotta take responsibility for your s**t too. With Kingdom Come, maybe it was too sophisticated. Maybe I f*cked up. I’m not saying, “F**k L.A. Reid [Def Jam chairman].†I mean, you made the album.
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Artists, we’re like that s**t. When we [have success], its our fault – we did it. “And I told them “Bang kill n***a and they said go with kill bang n***a.†[laughter] My shit popped off and I told niggas, “[You] can’t tell me nothing.†When it don’t work, [artists are] like, “See, look what you did! You f**ked my s**t up!†I respect L. He’s a legend. I’m not doing that. What happens? What do I get? That’s what I’m like. What do I get? N***as are like, “So.†There’s no win in it for me. “So. You won.†You know what I’m saying?
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Interviewer: Did it take the Jim Jones thing to make you say what you just said?
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Jay-Z: No one, no one, no one believed that. Nobody nowhere believed that.
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AllHipHop.com: Where does this album rank in your catalogue?
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Jay-Z: Its kinda early. Its gotta perform well for me. For me, the music, the lushness…its like Blueprint-esque. But the story lines and the way it put together lyrically (mumbles “Its almost like a sacrilege for me to say this) its like between Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint – a mix of those two albums.
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AllHipHop.com: You’re an executive and busy man, having you started writing your rhymes as opposed to doing them from memory?
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Jay-Z: No, its still the same process. For me, it feels better just to vibe with it. There’s something about the pen and paper that puts it in a box.
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AllHipHop.com: Is anybody else on the album?
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Jay-Z: No, that’s pretty much it. I still might switch some things around, but that’s the body. Bilal is singing on “Fallen.†Beans on “Ignorant S**t†and that’s pretty much it.
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Interviewer: Prior to seeing the movie, were you familiar with Frank Lucas?
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Jay-Z: No, he was so quiet. I knew his name, but I didn’t exactly know what he was about. I heard bits and pieces…about the bodies. I really didn’t know his story. The main draw was the emotion of what this represented. The movie shot great and is fantastic, but the emotion of it is what I was drawn to. And the character, his character…the way he was laid back. This guy made $250 million in the 70’s. That’s like $2 billion – cash. That’s a whole ‘nother story of why he didn’t stop. 10, 20 [million]…those are a whole lot of benchmarks 50? 100? That’s a whole ‘nother conversation.
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Interviewer: You know, the thing is Frank flipped [snitched]…
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Jay-Z: You know what the thing about Hollywood is, you can’t let it end good. That’s not a good message. But, what kids do anyway, regardless of the story, however they are – they pull what they want from the movie. No matter how it ends. Scarface died and he became a hero to everyone. He was in everybody’s lyrics and everybody patterned themselves after them and he died. The point was for you not to pattern yourself after him, because this is what happens. What you do is you pull out the things that relate to your life. I’m not Frank Lucas. That’s how he chose to live his life.
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Interviewer: Is there a difference with not being concerned with not having a hot single, but having this piece of work?
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Jay-Z: It's fun. Fun for me. I mean, and the inspiration is working out. It's really like a…it’s a good thing for me. I think you asked me last time, about cursing and shooting guns and sh*t. I said, “I ain’t never shoot nobody before†or something to that affect. So, [American Gangster] allows me to get the aggressive content out. [room erupts into laughter.]
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AllHipHop.com: Will you do anything else to support the album like touring?
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Jay-Z: I really look forward to touring, because of the music…the musicality of it all. I’m looking at a band right now. I’m looking to tour this summer. With all that instrumentation that’s in that album, forget about it. Forget about it.
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Interviewer: Outside of the creative nature, do you ever get to the point where you are like, “I think I should just stop?†Like, “I’ve already gotten this far. Maybe I should just stop.â€
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Jay-Z: Ahhh…I’m like the boxer. You know the boxer…boxers don’t stop.
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Interviewer: Even Tyson knew when to quit.
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Jay-Z: No he didn’t. [Laughs]
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AllHipHop.com: Lennox. You mean, Lennox Lewis.
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Jay-Z: [laughs] I was in Memphis. [Editor’s note: Lennox Lewis defeated Mike Tyson in Memphis, Tenn on June 9, 2002.] Remember the show right before the Tyson fight when I ran over there? Yeah, that was it. No good.
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AllHipHop.com: Can you speak on Kanye’s “Big Brother†record? I know you have commented on it before. But, it was praising you and also criticizing you as well. There was a lot said in that record. Do you have any opinion on his views?
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Jay-Z: I think it was brilliant, for one. Roc-A-Fella is tough love. His feelings are very understandable, because it’s tough love…nothing is given. There’s no free rides – none of that s**t. You gotta earn your way. You fail, you better get up so you can feel that. Those type of emotions [Kanye relayed]…for him to come out and say it, it actually brought us closer. [It was like] his true emotions. Everything on the song was true – it was true in his mind. That’s what made it great, because it was honestly how [Kanye] felt.
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AllHipHop.com: Is it all true from your perspective?
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Jay-Z: No. Of course not. We know everybody sees things differently. If I told you something like, “Carleen said I could buy two tickets,†you would think he didn’t get any tickets. He got four [tickets]. He wanted six. Its true, but…its really true. He wanted two more tickets, but if you heard that you’d be like, “Damn, them n***as ain’t give the n***a no tickets.†[room laughs] Come on!
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And [with] Coldplay – I introduced him! I gave him the number. I made the song happen. I did that. Like, [mimicking a phone call] “Coldplay, here’s Kanye. Here. [passing phone to imaginary Kanye]†Its great though, because its his truth. That’s what’s brilliant about him. It wasn’t no bulls**t – it was the way he felt.
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AllHipHop.com: How did it feel when you did the VH1 special on Reasonable Doubt? All the people were there, even Jaz-O [Jay’s estranged mentor].
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Jay-Z: I wasn’t there when they was interviewing everybody – just the people that I sat with. It felt great. I knew it was gonna be a great piece. Barry Michael Cooper (writer/film maker) really put his intelligent Black man on it though. It was great.
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AllHipHop.com: Was [“Blue Magicâ€] paying homage to Rakim, it's kind of obvious, but…
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Jay-Z: Yeah, yeah. It's like, lets strip everything down, put four little sounds, and some echoes, and just start the whole s**t over.
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Interviewer: Where is that song in the album list?
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Jay-Z: Its third, but I might make it a bonus, because it f**ks with me where it's at. I can’t really find a place for it. I’m going to create the saying "double bonus".
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AllHipHop.com: The “I Get Money†remix is on there too, right?
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Jay-Z: That was on there to make 12 records, but I don’t know if I’m gonna do that. I haven’t figured that one out yet. Triple Bar mitzvah.
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Interviewer: What about on the executive side? How long do you plan to do that?
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Jay-Z: I don’t know, I really don't. At this point, I want to do it to make history. I can’t look in everyone’s eyes – in the boardroom and look into everybody’s eyes and [if] everybody not committed to making history, I just don’t know. That's a big commitment. You commit to years, the next chapter, the next three years, I gotta really think about that. Look around and see if everybody's committed to being great, to chasing Berry Gordy, Motown and something like that.
everybody talks about joe budden being dope, where the fuck were yall when his first album came out. non of yall supported that shit. he did garbage numbers so they put that nigga on the back burner. he had "pump it up" out and the song was getting crazy airplay but he didnt sell units. i understand that business should not matter but if you dont make my company money your ass is gonna get fired. that is the way it works. he dont bring in money so if this is true, it was a business move.
I'm really starting to respect Lupe less and less. A Tribe Called Quest are legends in the game and I'm from the south where we love Eightball and G but come on man. You are in no place to try to minimize their impact on the game. Eight and G are legends in their own right but each group had their lane. Your entitled to your opinion but when you brought Hammer up....you ought to be slapped for that one....word.
Did yall see that preview for that Salt n Peppa show?
"Why dont you just give him head right there!"
LMFAO!!!!!!!
I saw a pic of spinderella the other day, DAMN. No wonder she aint on the show. (UGGHH)
Now on to the second order of business.
Behind of the scenes of the Black Cracker Movement, is a very busy environment. You probably didn't know this, but the BCM have people working around the clock, watching white TV and listening to white radio stations to see what the white man is up to. Which brings me to an injustice that I would like to bring to your attention.
While listening to this Top 40 radio station, we came across this song by this white group named Maroon 5. This group of white boys have a song called, "Wake up call" This song is about this white boy coming home to find his white bitch cheating on him (more than likely his bitch was with a Black Cracker) The song's message is basically saying he's done with her. But check out the lyrics to the chorus of this song:
[ Chorus ]
Wake up call
Caught you in the morning with another one in my bed
Don't you care about me anymore?
Don’t you care about me? I don't think so.
Six foot tall
Came without a warning so I had to shoot him dead
He won't come around here anymore
Come around here? I don't think so.
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First, I would like to know how is it that the White Man can get away with saying " I had to shoot him dead"? But I can't even "super soak that Hoe" on my radio station
Second you know his white bitch was in the bed with a Black Cracker. It's bad enough that this white group can get away with using violent lyrics, but violent lyrics towards a black cracker is ludicrous.
In response to this injustice taking place, we encourage all Blacker Crackers to contact the FCC, to report these violent lyrics. As you may know the Black Cracker Movement has a "no snitching" policy (no camron) UNLESS it will get the white man in trouble. So with that exception, you can contact the FCC at:
http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/complaints.html
or you can call them at: 1-888-CALL-FCC
We will not settle for violent lyrics towards Black Crackers. If the white man gets away with this then songs with violent lyrics towards Black Crackers will start popping up all over the place. We also don't want any crazy white boys to come home and see a Black Cracker in his bed and start shooting up the place. Even if don't support the Black Cracker Movement, we still encourage you to contact the FCC. If you against violent lyrics in general, we advise you to contact the FCC on these white boys. If you support hip hop and your tired of the way the media says hip hop is violent, I advise you to contact the FCC. If you hate racist faggots like Bill Hoe' Reilly, please contact the FCC. Do it for Black Crackers, do it for Hip Hop.
Peter Griffin
*** Vice President of the Black Cracker Movement ***
Let's just keep it 100.
....No matter what your opinion of ATCQ is, they are still well regarded and respected by the industry greats. Most of the poeple that MATTER in hiphop know all about ATCQ and fully respect tthem. Someone should've advised Lupe cause he just doesn't have enough clout, fans, or general public interest to make the statement he made about ATCQ. Tribe has generated tons of good will over the years that will outlast Lupe's entire career. But I do feel bad for Lupe cause he was just being a bit too truthful when it wasn't really necessary and now he's fucked.
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Joe Budden - This dude has always been a clown to me. No one in these parts has EVER been waiting, feening, or even thinking about another Joe Budd cd. Its something about him that I aint feelin.....he just don't connect.. I see him as a bootleg Redman...and I just can't get into it. What could Def Jam possibly do wit him...I mean really???
The Black Art Depot (www.blackartdepot.com) says...
I'm really starting to respect Lupe less and less. A Tribe Called Quest are legends in the game and I'm from the south where we love Eightball and G but come on man. You are in no place to try to minimize their impact on the game. Eight and G are legends in their own right but each group had their lane. Your entitled to your opinion but when you brought Hammer up....you ought to be slapped for that one....word.
October 11, 2007 11:29 AM
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Aye what up everyone, got a lotta work so i'll be on on later.
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what people dont understand is its not about 8ball and MJG because he dont do music like that, if he did something like arm robbery and shit the same arguement will be on but instead of say tribe they'll say 8ball and mjg. but that was yesterday.
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i went on ya site u got some good stuff i just wanna know
1) if your black
and
2) is this your site or u just directing heads there?
Dre Guevara says...
Peter Griffin (no family Guy) says...
Peace to Dre "watch my feet" Guverra
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@ Peter Griffin,
what's with the "Watch my feet" business?
I understand I'm from the Chi, but not 2 many people here, including myself, even like that song, if that's what U wanna call it.
October 11, 2007 11:10 AM
Black Crackers are not serious all of the time, we do joke a little bit. Would you like a new nickname brother Dre? How about Dre "hay in the middle of the Barn" Guevara?
Stop bitching, there's more important work to be done, like impregnating white bitches!!! You wanna bitch about names, how do you think I feel. Ever since that show the "Family Guy" came out I have been getting clowned. If you want to bitch about names, walk in my shoes for a week, or should I say "watch my feet" for week and see how you like it
Peter Griffin
*** Vice President of the Black Cracker Movement ***
co-sign e-fraizer 100% media twists shit all the time if you didn't hear and or see lupe saying those exact words STFU i got love for atcq and lupe they probably talked and forgot the whole sh*8 except for lupe suing vibe it must be SOMETHING there cause vibe can COUNTER sue him get real mofos need to quit gosd forbid any non nyer get misquoted on ny legends mofos start having hissy fits and throwing tantrums i heard lupe was a last minute stand in anyway alot of the same mofos that were praising lupe now want to diss him on some word of mouth shit? yall mofos need to get info somewhere other than the net ALL THE TIME listening to reckless as if that shit is written in stone?
Peter Griffin (no family guy) says...
Dre Guevara says...
Peter Griffin (no family Guy) says...
Peace to Dre "watch my feet" Guverra
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@ Peter Griffin,
what's with the "Watch my feet" business?
I understand I'm from the Chi, but not 2 many people here, including myself, even like that song, if that's what U wanna call it.
October 11, 2007 11:10 AM
Black Crackers are not serious all of the time, we do joke a little bit. Would you like a new nickname brother Dre? How about Dre "hay in the middle of the Barn" Guevara?
Stop bitching, there's more important work to be done, like impregnating white bitches!!! You wanna bitch about names, how do you think I feel. Ever since that show the "Family Guy" came out I have been getting clowned. If you want to bitch about names, walk in my shoes for a week, or should I say "watch my feet" for week and see how you like it
Peter Griffin
*** Vice President of the Black Cracker Movement ***
it's not really about bitchin' about names, if that was the case, I would've been locked up 4 killing every single pissant that ever called me "Lurch" I just don't like being linked 2 shit that I truly don't like, but since U mentioned the Family Guy, Peter Griffin, can U, like the cartoon character, name all 50 states in 1/2 a second?