Hov Admits he "f*cked up" with "Kingdom Come," Calls MIMS' Ringtone Hit "past salvaging,"; Nas Allows Fan On Stage to Help with Forgotten Lyrics

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Damn Mimi. You know son is hurt right now. When a legendary rapper comes through and smashes the best--and simultaneously the worst-- line you've ever spit, you know you're wack and that you should a) either go and hide under a rock, b) go back to the South or Long Island-- or wherever you're from-- and retire, or c) go sit on the third rail of a subway train track and finish yourself. If he can actually find his way around to a train station, that is.

"When a guy says 'I could make a million saying nothing on a track,' you know you've reached a bad place," Jay said to Rollingstone in regards to Mimi's 'This is Why I'm Hot.' "It's way past salvaging. I'm going the other way. That's why [my album] is the way it is."

Jay brought back the eerie memories I have of Nostrand and Willoughby. Bed-stuy was not a game. At the same time, it's too bad gentrification has now taken the soul out of one of the realest boroughs. Like I had said some time ago, that Biggie and Hov "Brooklyn's Finest" mural that once covered the side of a bodega on Marcy and Myrtle was painted over some years back, symbolizing the mean green takeover that was to come.

"The things that we have to see in one day [growing up in Brooklyn's Marcy Projects], a lot of people never see in their life. People could live their whole life and never see a crack vial or a dope needle or a shootout. When I saw my first person get shot, I was nine years old. It's typical to see people get shot before you're ten."

A lot of people said Jay did a half-ass job on Kingdom Come, and Timbaland recently expressed concern for Hov after he admitted that making albums was only a hobby. In retrospect, Hov said he was embarrassed of his claims of retirement and that he "cringed" when watching "Fade to Black" (documentary of the making of The Black Album), and said of his last album:

"Maybe it was too sophisticated. Maybe I f*cked up."

No. You did f*ck up. And if you f*ck up this one, you'll lose a lot of your respect.


Sitdownstandup has some exclusive footage of Nas slaughtering performing his new joint, "Surviving the Times," where a lucky fan got to fill in the lines that Nas admitted he didn't quite have memorized just yet:

To say the least, homey on stage looks real... happy. I mean, could you at least hide your excitement just a little bit? When I went to Nas' first listening party for HHID almost a year ago, an editor for a popular hip-hop website came up to me beaming like "oh my gosh look! It's Nas and Jay-Z!" She stared at Jay with a lustful smirk on her face for at least ten minutes before she... let me just omit the rest. She might be reading.

Lesson: Don't be a groupie.


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Only thing fckedup is that you got dummies like you running around saying Kingdom Come was wack. That album is hot. He was rappin about things that most "ni**as" can't relate to so it's wack? Nah, homie, expand your mind and realize that joint was just above your head. Album was 2 cuts away from classic. Anything and Hollywood should've been left off. So now he dumbs it down and spits the crack game state of mind of the 80's and now he's hot? This is a step backwards.

naw he aint fuck up, there is a large percentage of people that actually liked several songs on KC, myself included. As far as concern over making albums for hobbies shouldnt that be the way it supposed to be ??? dont make music to sell records but make music to make artistic statements


oh and fuck timbaland, that nigga makes one beat then re-does it 29 times and everyone calls him an innovator neeeeegro please.

The only thing he fucked up on was thinking the masses would understand that album. DA TRUTH is right it was 2 cuts away but HOLLYWOOD was aight, well the concept was. beat was aight.whoever wrote this blog needs to listen to the lyrical content and not think cause he not yelling like Weezy he not saying not.Listen to the intro. thats the game in a nutshell. He also fucked by letting JOE BUDDENS go

REAL TALK IN THE HOUUUUUUUUUUSE.
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Reckless you're so fake just stop. Sounds like you lived in NY (maybe) 20 years ago and now live down south or somewhere. You don't even like doing these blogs. It's so obvious. Gentrification isn't even that serious in Brooklyn. Brooklyn always had a lot of whites in every hood. It was never straight black even in "black" areas. Rest the blog is too corny to comment about.
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YOU CAN'T KEEP HIDING FOREVER AND YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKING TO PUSSY.

Kingdom come was a dope album. Niggas be listening to weak ass critics too much.

Jay did put out a wack album with Kingdom Come, there's no doubt about that... This next one BETTER be BETTER!!!

Holla at your boy for those free downloads!!


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Damn, these wack ass SOHH Gay bloggers can't write one blog without talkin shit bout the South huh? Yo, I'd fire these wack ass writers. By takin shots at the lower half of the nation, you don't realize you dissin about 50% of the country dumbass. That's not the best marketing scheme for a struggling website such as yourself. The South that wack huh? Aiight, show me a rapper, besides 50 or Jay, that can even fuck with Weezy right now. It'll be back to the freestyle on Mims' wack ass song. Murder them, when I murder them, fuck a competition, when I murder them. (And he'll do it in the reggae voice). And before you holla out, oh, Wayne all yall got......uh, Jeezy, Outkast, T.I., Luda, and probably the muthafucka that you bumpin in your cd player right now. That takes care of that. Jay ain't fuck up with Kingdome Come. That album was dope as hell. Your ears just ain't advanced enough dunny to even understand what Jay says. Matter fact, Reckless, I bet you one of those kids that likes to dance and shit. You wanna hear some Lil Mama don't you? Your lip gloss be poppin don't it? You can't stand to hear songs like "Minority Report", which tackles some of the real issues in the world without even jeopardizing the flow. He's still killin it and he ain't even rappin bout bling and money. Or maybe you mad because Jay called you out on "30 Something". A song that describes how a niggas mind is supposed to grow with age. A lot of yall bout 40 still rockin throwbacks. I'm 22 and put my shit up a long time ago. I get my grown man on on these hoes. Reckless you wack dawg. Go work for Google or somethin. Hip-hop, obviously, ain't your field bruh.

Jay z last few albums sucked the last good one was blueprint

@Docru they dont just hate on the south they hate on everybody check the other blogs its crazy.

CALL ME A HATER:


I don't care!! I'm I the only person happy to know TI may not ever make another album??? Thank God!

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Kingdom Come sucked monkey nutz and everybody know it. Only reason Jay sells is cuz you f@gz will buy it jus cuz its his album.

c'mon says...
Kingdom Come sucked monkey nutz and everybody know it. Only reason Jay sells is cuz you f@gz will buy it jus cuz its his album.

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It's called a following Jackass!! We don't talk shit to you when you buy Gucci Mane's album!


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I never bought a Jay album before Kingdom Come. I'm not a lil nigga influenced off bullshit. But the nigga came with something different, and it was a breath of fresh air. That's what he had to do. If you ask me the American Gangster will probably be less quality than Kingdom Come.

Me & my friends were talking about this topic over the weekend, about Kingdom Come, I mean it is what is, a rapper can't rhyme about being in the hood & slangin' all their life, Kingdom Come was more like a cross between The Blueprint & The Black Album.

P.S.
What rapper DOES'NT get paid 2 say nothing on a track these days?

THE-XFACTA says...
CALL ME A HATER:


I don't care!! I'm I the only person happy to know TI may not ever make another album??? Thank God!


http://cyberthugs.wordpress.com

October 15, 2007 9:07 AM

That's Cold Bleed

2 the fag that laughin cause ti or any other person is locked up is A clown. U can tell U live wit your mother. But if U A black man U better realize that all of us are only 1 bad desicion from bein in his shoes. And I would Love 2 catch A pussy like U on lock down. I would extort U and beat your ass until U hung yourself. Fake ass nigga. Lol

stick up kid says...
2 the fag that laughin cause ti or any other person is locked up is A clown. U can tell U live wit your mother. But if U A black man U better realize that all of us are only 1 bad desicion from bein in his shoes. And I would Love 2 catch A pussy like U on lock down. I would extort U and beat your ass until U hung yourself. Fake ass nigga. Lol


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Nah homie I don't live wit my moms and never have.. I ain't worried about a lil clown like you B.. I said what I said and I meant it! I'm talking about rich millionaire niggaz doing dumb shit.. Are you a millionaire?? Hell No! Then I wasn't talking to you B.. Fall Back!

Here are some funny ass T.I lyrics for yall

"Still kicking doors with them thangs in the air
Open Benny Honda, see me slang in dem chair
I will slang cane, no such thang as a jail"


"Pullin out that pistol nigga who you think u finna scare?
20 rounds of missles have you pissin in your underwear
I tote a pound, 40 cal, so you better tone it down
I suggest you adjust the bass, except for when it going down
A-town, west side club, you should catch me,
Right up at the top where Big Kuntry, Dro & Mac be
Jackers lying say they caught me slipping how could that be
I'm something like a stalker I be everywhere the strap be"


"We doing with them choppers, aint no problem where you running to?
We do it for the block, now why ain't nobody stopping me"

T.I. fucked up. That's what he gets for hanging with Dre Guevera. Instead of "watching each others feet" T.I. should have been "Watching his peeps"

Kingdome Come is the shit!

To da niggaz dats trappin on da block/Dude been a millionaire; how he rappin about da block/And its not that i'm tryin 2 come at Hova/I'm just tryin 2 make these old niggaz move over! "Take It Like A Man"- Maino


The nigga was rappin about his life at that point & yall sayin that Kingdome come is Wack! Listen 2 30 Something, Beach Chair (My favorite on the album) Dig a Hole, Lost Ones, damn the whole album was hot! Yall didn't get it!


Motherfuckers, say that I'm foolish I only talk about jewels
Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?- "Renegade"

Oh Yeah one More

The game's fucked up
Nigga's beats is bangin, nigga your hooks did it/ Your lyrics did and your gangster look did it/ So I would write it if y'all could get it/ Bein intricate'll get you wood, critic/On the internet, they like you should spit it/
I'm like you should buy it, nigga that's good business! -"The Prelude"

All the real Hova fans know the deal! He's all grown up! Like he said in the Barbara Walters Interview (yeah that's big nigga!) "We got rappers out here still rappin like they 16 yrs old & its embarassing!"


EVERYBODY GROW DA FUCK UP!!

I already told ya to holla at your boy for the lastest and greatest free downloads.... Ya know what it is!!

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Im glad Jay admitted that. Now he needs to admit ruining Def Jam as a label and bein an UT to the T.I.'s at Universal. We'll see what he can do. I agree the blueprint was his last really dope work.

YOU'RE TELLIN PEEPS DONT BE A GROUPIE RECK YOU DICKRIDER?!!? LMFAO! Why dont you hop off Eskays cock for once? You're probably jealous cause your home girl sucked off Jay Z and you were too fat to get a date from even a regular cat, none the less a star, lmaaaooo!

There was already a fifth element bitch, lol. You didnt know? Oh and Graff aint dead, you just dont know shit about it. How is it dead when we're having scribble jams like 10K strong? GTFOH. Its called FREIGHT TRAINS & WALLS WHORE. LMFAO.

Once again your terrible blogs are filled with hate and misinformation. You fuckin SUCK at this blog shit. Thats why you cant get a job at XXL no matter how much you cockride Mr. Nahright himself. hahahahaha!!

LOL @ YOU RECK

If you aint get that kingdom come album that means you got more groeing up to do.
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TI is DUMB for that shit that was the biggest news in GA but at the same time i hate hearing any black man getting locked, so i wuld like to take this time out to say fuck his "body gaurd" that snitched on him, I WISH ALL SNITCHES DIE SLOW LONELY DEATHS!!!!
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fuck them faggot ass boot camp instructors who killed....nah, MURDERED that 14 year old black kid on tape and got off.
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BLACK MEN WHERE BEING TARGETED this shit aint some oh it just happen blackmen in america is being attacked open ya eyes.
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shout out to the regs on the site,
fuck da police
NOV 6TH!!!!!!!! AMERICAN GANGSTA

Corny Jokes says...
T.I. fucked up. That's what he gets for hanging with Dre Guevera. Instead of "watching each others feet" T.I. should have been "Watching his peeps"

October 15, 2007 10:00 AM

he ain't get in trouble hangin' with me, U can't watch my feet, I'm 2 grown 4 that footwork jive.

I have to raise up a big middle finger to all the haterz tryin' to put Mims on the South. Dude iz a product of New York. Stop tryin' to act like every nigga rappin' in New York iz god. Ya'LL have jes' as many succ azz rapperz as any other coast in the United Statez, ya6itchez!

Manni Montana says...
Kingdome Come is the shit!

To da niggaz dats trappin on da block/Dude been a millionaire; how he rappin about da block/And its not that i'm tryin 2 come at Hova/I'm just tryin 2 make these old niggaz move over! "Take It Like A Man"- Maino


The nigga was rappin about his life at that point & yall sayin that Kingdome come is Wack! Listen 2 30 Something, Beach Chair (My favorite on the album) Dig a Hole, Lost Ones, damn the whole album was hot! Yall didn't get it!


Motherfuckers, say that I'm foolish I only talk about jewels
Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?- "Renegade"

Oh Yeah one More

The game's fucked up
Nigga's beats is bangin, nigga your hooks did it/ Your lyrics did and your gangster look did it/ So I would write it if y'all could get it/ Bein intricate'll get you wood, critic/On the internet, they like you should spit it/
I'm like you should buy it, nigga that's good business! -"The Prelude"

All the real Hova fans know the deal! He's all grown up! Like he said in the Barbara Walters Interview (yeah that's big nigga!) "We got rappers out here still rappin like they 16 yrs old & its embarassing!"


EVERYBODY GROW DA FUCK UP!!


October 15, 2007 10:00 AM

Co 2 tha Sign!

DoDo says...
I have to raise up a big middle finger to all the haterz tryin' to put Mims on the South. Dude iz a product of New York. Stop tryin' to act like every nigga rappin' in New York iz god. Ya'LL have jes' as many succ azz rapperz as any other coast in the United Statez, ya6itchez!

October 15, 2007 10:51 AM
NY diss wack rappers anywhere, inside and outside that state, if your wack your wack.
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the south is so happy to be on they'll co-sign anything with a beat.

who is this guy that posted this non sense, he said MAYBE, because kids like u didnt understand wtf kingdom come was about, and he aint losing no respect, u wont never even gain an ounce of respect dummy. dont hate cause all u claim to "understand" is guns and crack, knowing damn well u didnt go thru any of that.

Source: T.I. Didn't Do It!
Posted Oct 14th 2007 3:04PM by TMZ Staff
Filed under: Celebrity Justice

Is he packin' heat or isn't he? A source close to embattled rapper T.I. says that the gun charges leveraged against the hip-hopper are false; T.I. never tried to purchase guns -- it was all his bodyguard.

The source told MediaTakeOut.com that "[The bodyguard] asked T.I. for an advance on his [pay] and T.I. gave it to him. ...Whatever he spent money on -- whether it be guns, drugs, or formula for his children -- T.I. had nothing to do with it." That's it, he was buying formula!

And those guns found in T.I.'s house? "T.I. has security that lives with him and stay with him at all times. The gun that the [federal agents] found belonged to his security team" -- all of whom are licensed to carry them, the source claims.

"The government was just looking to pin a case on T.I. - they've been trying for years. So they pushed [the bodyguard] into snitching on T.I."

But according to CNN, authorities said they found three firearms in the car in which T.I. -- also know as Cilfford Harris -- drove to pick up the machine guns and silencers, "including one loaded gun tucked between the driver's seat where Harris had been sitting and the center console."

Conspiracy, or just caught up?

If u really get into it Jay is saying that he fucked up not for making a wack album, but for over estimating the sophistication of hip hop fans.

I dont think Jay fucked up on kingdom come, i think that album showed a different aspect of hip hop and life itself. He just said that to please the fans who is down his throat about the album. Honestly i do think kingdom come could have been better, but i do think he'll top that cus great ppl dont make the same mistake twice.

Honestly that was the best thing Mims ever said cuz it was the realest thing he said but I heard hes broke now so maybe not and Nas pulling the fan up shows professionalism on his part yea u supposed to kno ur damn rap(kinda suspect NaS) but if u dont, dont fuck it up jus play it off n that nigga was kinda groupie-ish i done met rappers and i treat them like ordinary niggas i dont look at em like celebrities i look at as people wit money nah mean they go into studios jus like i do only diff is they gettin paid out the ass and Hov is tellin ppl wat they wanna hear he knows ppl didnt like Vol. 1 and Kingdom Come so he says he dont like em either, and alot of ppl missed the concept of Kingdom Come cuz like he sed "Do yall listen to music or do yall jus skim thru i"

1) Kingdom Come was NOT wack. Reckless just doesn't know shit about hip-hop. I got about 300 rap cds, and it's a fucking shame that Kingdom Come was the first of it's kind. Everything else was either dope, hoes, fake messages, or "conscious lyrics". Nigga I was glad when Jay-Z made something different. That's why I like Kanye and that's why I liked Lupe's Food and Liquor. The rap game is stale right now, and niggas like Reckless are to blame. The fact that you actually think saying something is too sophisticated is an admission of a mistake shows how much of a dumb fuck you really are.


2) As someone who's supported T.I. since day one, I can honestly say that the nigga is dumb. He did exactly what I knew he would. Tip was always straddling the fence. He'll wear fancy suits and talk about chartered planes, but then he'd turn around and do some stupid ignorant shit to show he's still hood. WTF is a nigga as successful as he's been doing throwing chairs in Benihana's throwing chairs (yes that did really happen). Why is this nigga pulling a pistol in the parking lot of Magic City? That nigga has a serious identity problem. I hate to see ANY nigga get locked up though.


3) It amazes me how people like Reckless bitch ass blames the south even for their OWN garbage artists. Tell Mims to go back to the south. SMH

My interpretation of what Hov said about Kingdom Come is that he's probably his own worst critic, plain & simple, there's nothing wrong with that.

Nah Jay you ain't mess up with Kingdom Come , heads just need to get off the corners and look at whats next in life, cause a hustla won't ever have a 401k, retirement fund, stock options or will never be full invested into a Corprate Company. There is more to life then just slingin those thangs and flippin those birds. Make your music, don't let it make you. The weak will perish or wake up before it's too late.

harlemssweetest says...
If u really get into it Jay is saying that he fucked up not for making a wack album, but for over estimating the sophistication of hip hop fans.

October 15, 2007 11:04 AM

I'll co-sign to that. Go back and listen to one of 50's interviews when he talks about what him and Jigga conversate about. Even Fif will tell you, the fans wasn't ready for that shit. The fans only wanna hear that kiddie bullshit. That's why 106 & Parks top 10 countdown of songs usually feature songs I wouldn't have in my top 50 at the time. But hell, fuck it. My nieces watch that show. I don't. I'm a grown ass man dawg. And guess what, Kingdom Come is one of the few cd's made within the last 5 years that get p.t. in my cd player.

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if it's typical to see someone get shot before you're 10 years old, maybe that neighborhood NEEDS some gentrification.

That was Nas @ Sneaker Pimps last friday. He killed it. you can see exclusive pictures of the event at http://skillfuldischarge.com. EPMD was there too, they killed it as well.

Top 6 questions for T.I.


1. Why are you trying to buy machine guns that are the same size as you


2. Why did T.I.'s body guard for go around asking for unregistered machineguns


3. Why is T.I acting like a worker by picking up the guns


4.) Why is T.I. trusting someone he only knew for 18 months?


5.) Why are you buying silencers like your going to merk somebody


6.) Who is responsibe for the gun purchases T.I or TIP?


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KINDOM COME was a hot ass cd.. If Jay took off 'SHOW ME WHAT U GOT' & 'ANYTHING' it would of been a classic album, but fuk it it is what it is....

& damn is it just me or am I the only person that thinks that MIMS is nasty. If u listen 2 the whole MIMS album the kid is mad lyrical & has kraz! word play..

KINDOM COME was a hot ass cd.. If Jay took off 'SHOW ME WHAT U GOT' & 'ANYTHING' it would of been a classic album, but fuk it it is what it is....

& damn is it just me or am I the only person that thinks that MIMS is nasty. If u listen 2 the whole MIMS album the kid is mad lyrical & has kraz! word play..

@ X facta

Ti's whole defense, "Your Honor, it was T.I.P. that wanted to buy those guns!! See I have an alter ego that comes out when I take 3 extact pills and snort a few lines....."

Kingdom Come was kinda hot. It wasnt no classic shit, it just had a few hot songs. He was goin over my head with that super rich guy shit. You could tell he's decades past slangin dope, but he cant tell everybody not to do it, cause that was his "bread and butter" for his whole career.

And Jay fucked up when he said Just Blaze is the new Primo. Just Blaze will never make anything as good as D'Evils. There's only one DJ Premier.

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Once Atlanta crews began to draw the connection between the robberies of their distribution locations, all the dominoes soon fell in place. It was odd that men from a different state could suddenly show up and be immediately directed to the biggest playmakers in the city. The weak link was an Atlanta sell-out.
The names and faces were revealed. Frank Sinatra. Prinze. Slugga. Chopper. The crews and locations. 30 Deep... Campbellton Road....Bankhead... Mechanicsvile.

New Orlean's "Slugga" on the run... his brother gunned down outside an Atlanta night spot. New Orleans crews retaliated with bodies on Bankhead and Martin Luther King. New Orleans lost more soldiers with a murder at Club Onyx on Cheshire Bridge Road...

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LAS VEGAS - A co-defendant in the O.J. Simpson armed robbery case told a judge Monday he would plead guilty to a felony and testify against Simpson and four others in the alleged hotel room theft of sports collectibles from two memorabilia dealers.

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The plea agreement with Charles Cashmore, 40, of Las Vegas, ups the ante in the prosecution of Simpson. Cashmore can testify that guns were involved in the Sept. 13 confrontation with two sports memorabilia dealers at a Las Vegas casino hotel room, his lawyer said.

"He can establish who was in the room, what was said, who had guns, who didn't have guns, potentially who may have seen guns, who didn't see guns," Cashmore's lawyer Edward Miley said outside court. "I think he wishes he would have never met O.J."

Simpson and his lawyers have denied guns were in the room. His lawyers did not respond Monday to requests for comment.

Cashmore waived his preliminary hearing. Las Vegas Justice of the Peace Joe Bonaventure Jr., set arraignment for Oct. 23. He and the prosecution did not agree on a possible sentence before Monday's hearing, Miley said. He faces up to five years in prison.

"In District Court, he'll be pleading guilty to accessory to robbery," Clark County District Attorney David Roger told Bonaventure. "He's agreed to provide truthful testimony."

Outside court, Cashmore said he thought he'd done the right thing, but declined additional comment.

Cashmore was initially arraigned on nine felonies and a gross misdemeanor, charges that included kidnapping, armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon and conspiracy. A kidnapping conviction alone could have resulted in a sentence of life in prison with parole.

Simpson and the others, Walter Alexander, Clarence "C.J." Stewart, Michael McClinton, and Charles Ehrlich, are due in court for a preliminary hearing on Nov. 8 and 9. Bonaventure will decide then whether there is enough evidence to send the case to trial in state court.

If asked, Cashmore will testify if asked at the preliminary hearing that Alexander and McClinton were armed when they entered the room with Simpson, Miley said.

Simpson claims at least some of the items taken from collectors Alfred Beardsley and Bruce Fromong belonged to him, and his lawyers have maintained that no guns were used. Simpson and the others are charged with kidnapping, armed robbery, assault, burglary and conspiracy.

Cashmore was introduced to Simpson and most of the others in the group for the first time minutes before the alleged robbery, Miley said.

"He didn't know anyone. He didn't know what was going on," Miley said. "He didn't have a gun."

Cashmore, a journeyman laborer, bartender and disc jockey, surrendered to authorities six days after the encounter, and after police released images from hotel security videotapes showing him carrying a box from the room at the Palace Station hotel-casino.

Cashmore didn't look at everything in the box, but said some items included lithograph prints of football great Joe Montana, his lawyer said.

Cashmore should have immediately gone to the police and turned over the items he carried out of the room, Miley said. "He should have done something, but he didn't," Miley said.

In 1996, he plea bargained a felony theft charge to a misdemeanor and received probation in an embezzlement case in Utah.

Alexander's lawyer, Robert Dennis Rentzer, declined to say whether Alexander had a gun in the room, but expressed doubt Cashmore could say Alexander was armed. Rentzer said he was scheduled to meet later Monday with Roger, the district attorney.

McClinton's lawyer, Bill Terry, did not respond to requests for comment.

Be quiet Reckless. You know if Nas called you up on stage to help him out with his lyrics you would've creamed your pants too.


And T.I. ...man, I don't know. I really don't know.

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