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Hov's Single from New CD, "American Gangster," Drops Today, No More "Nacirema Dream"- Papoose Dropped
Posted on September 20, 2007 2:37 AM
You read the title right. The news has been spreading like wild fire. After a not-so-stellar Kingdom Come, Hov is rebounding with the first joint off his next album, American Gangster, which is currently slated to hit shelves November 6th. The song that was expected to hit airwaves today is entitled "Blue Magic," said to be produced by Pharrell. I haven't heard the track just yet, but I swear this new single better not sound anything like that god-awful "Change Clothes."
So since yesterday proved that good, quality music still sells, can we get some 1998 swagger in this new Hov album? I was listening to those 1990s DMX albums, alongside with the Ruff Ryders Vol I, some of Jigga's old joints, then I ran across "Can I Get A," and it made me think about how tight knit New York City rappers once were. Now, Ja Rule and DMX are too washed up to ever be relevant again, and DMX can't stand to have Hov oversee any of his work. But ten years ago? Things were so different. And a Jay-Z album was worth the ten dollars. But Kingdome Come? ....*crickets*
In any event, it's clear that Def Jam is gearing up for another 4th quarter rampage. We'll see how long that November 6th date sticks.
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Wow.
Kay Slay speaks on Papoose being released from Jive Records (via Eskay) [LISTEN]:
"We have officially gotten our release from Jive f*ckin records. It was like a f*ckin year of hell... Unfortunately, we almost became victims of A&R hell.
"You cannot put a 60-something-year-old white man on a 20-something-year-old black kid's project from Brooklyn, and think it's gonna pop. And like I said this aint a bashing. It's a reality. But by the grace of everybody's... understanding, we are free. Free at last, free at last. Thank God Almighty, free at last. We are very happy, we're popping champagne. We got our release from Jive Records, and we're just moving on."
When you go on and on and on expressing how happy you are about something, it usually means you're disgusing the opposite. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being disappointed. Stop frontin.
Man oh man. But you know what? I shouldn't even be surprised, because those first two singles said it all. But it's all good. It's better to be released early on than to be helplessly held hostage and forced to make no money and end up working at The GAP. Like, say, a Bad Boy artist.
>>>>Oh yeah, and one more thing to make you mad: Speaking of quality music selling a million copies in one week, how do you corns feel about your favorite Southern invent-a-dance ringtone rappers bagging Billboard hits and smashing ringtone sales but constantly failing to move physical CD cases out of stores? Stop using downloading as a scapegoat. The end is near.
I knew that Papoose wasn't dropping shit, he just a mixtape rapper.. that single wif Snoop was trash in trash out. anyhow, i'm that 1 in a million person that has never really paid attention to Jay-Z, i hear people over here in S.A. hype him up, i mean one of my friends, before the downloading era, i think it was that time Jay released that Hard Knock life joint, i was bumping DMX, anyhoo this nigga went as far as to buy me that album, but i just wasn't impressed, even the blue print wasn't hot to me but for a few tracks, i preffered Still Matic.. that album wif change clothes i thought was to me his best album and it still wasn't that great, but since i keep on reading on these blogs how great he is, i'm gonna DOWNLOAD his catelog and see what's good wif this nigga, if he deserves to be compared to the greats (BIGGIE, PAC, PUN & Nasir)... i'll get back to u mufackas
Jigga >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pun, with that said though; Pun was pretty dope. Now back to the subject.
That Dr. Dre produced track by Pap shoulda been his first single, that shit was hot. But they paid him 1.5 mil, I mean honesly Pap isn't worth that much, he doesn't have the buzz 50 had when he signed to Shady/Aftermath (not to say 50's better, he just had a bigger buzz) As for Jay, all his albums are dope. Reasonable Doubt & The Blueprint are both classics, and Kingdom Come was more for the grown man crowd, it showed his growth as an artist. He went from selling drugs to running Def Jam, plus Jigga is the only dude that could collab with Big and sound as good as Big (Brooklyn's Finest). So I'm looking forward to the new single.
Glad to see REAL music selling again. Thanks Kanye, coz this wasnt ALL about the so-called feud with 50! I feel that in the end he sold more coz he really cared about the music. Peep Jay-Z's Entertainment Weekly interview. Apparently Good Life had 16 mixes! In Hov's words "Who does that!?" Maybe Hov will up the ante a bit (lyrically & creatively) with this next album. I gotta say though, Kingdom Come did end up growin on me. I think ringtone rappers toppin billboard singles charts and ringtone sales, then going wood is a mere reflection of the longevity good/real music has. I'm not too surprised about Papoose's situation. I was one of the few who weren't too excited about that $1.5mil deal with Jive coz I felt that label was just tryin to capitalise off his buzz at the time. Also, Papoose's material just cant breakthrough commercially. I think they are frontin, deep down they hurtin.
hahaha! why are yall so concerned about the sales....the record is tight, talk about the quality that is evident in the kweli record, the common record and kanye's record...those right there are emcees....i am sad for papoose who needs a name change by the way.....and ma, i kind of liked change clothes...pamoja!!!
Oh please, save our label's hip hop division again, Hov??? How can these cats hustle they own joints with the serious muscle, but can't get quality artists to put out a top contender to Weezy and TIP for album of the year??? Kayslay just frontin...... him and Pap owe Jive Records 1.5 mill (the advance in that contract signed like 2 yrs ago). That shit is eating him alive that he couldn't make Pap something he aint. All that b.s. about a 60 yr. old A&R....... Nigga, please!!!! You Pap's manager (so-called), they gave you 1.5 million BEFORE he ever dropped anything commercially, and besides, all a A&R do is "clean up" ya image and get you aimed at a particular fan base. If you his manager, YOU tell the A&R where Pap is coming from, not the other way around. That shit fell through becuz Pap was buzzing at the time, but him and Kayslay started running with these weak ass singles, thinking that the "Ringtone experiment" would also work for Pap, acting like true hip-hop fans is stupid. They had no biz even being on Jive in the 1st fuckin place....... same label as Kells, Britney Spears, Timberlake...... what rap artists is on Jive???? All they whole hip-hop staff is liquidated or bounced (i.e. UGK, Mystikal, Nick Cannon), so what the hell made them think they had a snowball's chance in hell over there??? In response to that last comment, (not sticking up for the South's corny dance rappers/ ringtone cats) that's what them niggaz is here to do. They aint never gon win lyricist of the year and they know the shit....... when have you ever heard Soulja Boy hop up and say "I'm the hottest in the game/ My album is fire...."??? D4L? DFB? T-Pain? They hustle is strictly making the ringtone songs thats gon have ya girl trying to assign a ringtone to every person saved in they celly (Trust me, I know). Stop knockin they hustle and worry bout why cats up top AINT interested in buying quality hip-hop like Talib, Common, Chamillionaire that has messages, everyday themes, etc. Most of them cats like Hurricane Chris, Soulja Boy, and such have contracts where 99% of what they sell goes to the straight to the label for they profit, and the artists themselves eat like mostly from selling the ringtones, video/radio spins and performances, so it IS a method to the madness. NO, I DONT FOLLOW THAT BULLSHIT, but I do understand the nature of the game. ONE
Pap is a good ocassional 16 bars. Not good songs or music. But I feel them on the a&r situation. These companies have college boys, girls, and senior citizens filtering out an art that was formed from the streets. The corporations are failing us, not the artists. Even if I think pap is garbage, he has fans, but these a&rs are fans of their own type of music, and want artists to conform. Some artist do, some artist don't. Christina millian and rihanna were supposed 2 b marketed the same. One said hell no, and one said okay. Guess who's who. But fuck a&rs, especially the ones at columbia. I won't call names, but yall staff is weak
They marketed Pap all wrong. Pap is naturally a hardcore artist...they should have marketed him like DMX or 50....not Faboulous or Chingy.
Kay Slay is a failure. Pap need 2 drop him real quick.
I hope Jay come with some good, good ish. Take it back to that reasonable doubt/hard knock life time.
Jay also need to do a duet album with Beyonce...should be fire.
whom ever wrote this is a straight hater and you shouldnt ever be in charge of a blog you hate the east coast and the south you should go write for a f@ggot azz blog because thats what you are
That whole Streetsweeper Gang is old as hell. Slay is like 50. Pap is like 35 and Big Lou got a 16 year old kid. That mean the nigga is pushing 40. Who the fuck gon sign a 40 year old rapper. This game all fucked up.
About time Jay! Hope this project isn't rushed like Kingdom Come even tho I liked it. Damn Papoose! How you gonna pay back the mil you got from your advance? Papoose is good but he Kay Slay should expand him outside the NY area. Your average person in Wisconsin probably doesn't even know who he is.
Here we go again, first it was 50 cent dick riderz talking nonsense that 50 gonna smash KW for the #1 spot, and look what happened. Now we have Jay-Z dick riderz saying all this garbage about his shit and soon to be shitty album. Jay-z is a wanna be biggie. He will never be bigg, he will never take biggs crown, if bigg would be alive, jay-z would be madd hatin on him with full of jeolusy. So you Jay-z dick riderz get off his nuttz 4 a sec and learn from the 50 cent dick riderz. Karma will bite you in the ass. Jay-z gonna flopp. And when that happens I will address you Jay-z dick riderz.
Looks like Hov is going try and use the movie to market his project like he used 50's release date and over confidence to maket Kanyes CD. Hopefully it will not work. Hov is washed up. He will be 39 years old this year, and he reach to death, the hunger is gone.
As for Pap- I KNEW IT!!!! Jive isn't for rap music
Artists need to tell these labels to keep their advance and just provide the essentials to make great music. If you skip the advance, that money can go to your marketing budget. But Pap probably thought he had enough buzz to forgoe a heavy campaign and just use Myspace as his primary source of advertising. Bad move homie..................................
..And I have to agree with Jaysiatic .Kay Slay is not an Exec. How you can't persuade these suits to let you have creative control when you supposed to have New York on smash???
And now to comment on the ever move making.
Jay-Z.
I wonder how much 50 paid him to get on that remix anyway???
I never was into the super bragadocious Style Jay-Z used to have. But his last album was something to listen to. I just wish he would do more track with underground artists. But he realizes that Gangsta Rap is dead and he has become more hip-hop focused.
He need to put Termanology or Strobe on his new album. I always wanted to hear a Jam with Jay-Z and Dave from De La. aslo known as Plug 2.
Check out these beats produced by Skrooge Banga. Feel free to leave comments. http://www.esnips.com/web/Skroogestrumentals
Who ever wrote this blog is a hater. That change clothes track was hot i don't know wat ure talkin bout. The Kingdom Come was a hot album too, the shit was a lil more on the grown folks side. Pap got the deal off the buzz he was carrying at the time. I saw this coming when he started to lose his buzz. Thta "bang out" with snoop was trash and so was the "fitted hat low". Kay Slay need to stop faking, he know he's fucking hurting off of this situation. 1!!
FYI American Gangster isn't Jay's latest...it's the soundtrack for the upcoming movie!
Honestly Kay Slay shoulda holla'd @ Mobb Deep B4 fuckin' with Jive, now that U think about it, that label has the right name.
How long do y'all think it'll be B4 Atlantic drops Saigon?
2 much 4 the industry 2 handle why don't you go hurry up and get to school because your a child for talking immature shit like that and obiviously don't know spell check. If you don't like Jay-Z's mucsic that's your opinion not mine but just because people on here are commenting saying they can't wait for the album doenst mean their dick riders. Their fans not dumbass haters like you who has no relevancy on this topic.
Are u from trini or just a perp???
HATE HATE HATE, is that all that comes out of your crusty little mouth Reckless? Some guy got on Breezy the other day talkin about how females shouldn't blogg on hiphop. Ur just giving is beliefs credibility.
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1st off, i have failed to see what was wrong with Kindom Come. Was it because all his songs weren't filled with clever drug saleing references or metaphores for fucking groupies? That album was for the grown, and showed the same growth all these other niggas need to pay attention to. Jay can't rap about the projects cause he aint there no more.
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But i'm still lookin forward to some new shit. Jay never dissapoints IMO. (Maybe with that billionare remix he did, but wateva)
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Who gives a fuck about the New NY savior, the spoken word artist Papoose. U should have known that nigga is NEVER EVER EVER EVER gonna blow up outside of NY. He better make up a dance or get T-Pain to sing a hook or something. He got dropped. End of discussion
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Oh and Reckless, fuck u for that lame shot at the south. Who's dick are u really on? 50's? i thought u hate him. His whole album is for the ladies or about shootin someone. And it can't be Kanye's cause he from the Chi.
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Again Reckless, how long has it been since a NY rapper even debuted in the top 10 again.........waiting.......waiting.....took too long, i'll answer it for u. It was Swizz Beatz at #7 with 45,000 sold. "Quality" music moving unit's right?
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NY couldn't break a new artist if every rapper from there was mad in Taiwan. U get money for ringtones even if u only sale a couple hundred thousand units. If niggas get lucky and make one hit, who are u to hate, that's one more hit than u made.
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Top 10 debuts of this year by region:
West:
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East:
Mims #4
Fabolous #1
Talib Kweli #2
Swizz Beatz #7
50Cent #2
Midwest:
Common #1
Kanye West #1
South:
Rich Boy #6
Young Buck #3
8ball & MJG #8
Paul Wall #8
Young Jeezy and USDA #4
DJ Kahled #8
T.I. #1
T-Pain #1
UGK #1
Yung Joc #3
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Men lie, women lie, numbers don't. The south aint goin no where, no matter how hard u close ur eyes and click the heels of ur dusty Tims. That's not a quality list, but it does show that we still can move units at the same rate, or better than any other region, regardless of quality.
Here we go AGAIN with a artist BLAMING HIS LABEL. Pap and Slay KNEW about Jive records. They tried to keep their deal on the low... I remember Slay gettin' all hyped up... and talkin' shit about the $$$ they received from the label... NOW LOOK!!
And I'm a Kay Slay fan, but itz a wrap for Pap. His style of rap will not be accepting in mainstream. There are niggaz NICER THAN HIM, who can't get a crack at mainstream (Royce, Budden, AZ).... so I don't see any hope... Dude should've gotten his break in the mid to late 90z... when cats were on their A games lyrically....
As far as Jay??? I don't know whether to get excited about hearing new music, or what? cuz all of the critics are about to shower these blogs YET AGAIN, about how he's "washed up," "how he should retire", blah, blah... just takin' all the fun out of his return...
Saigon knocked out Prodigy on stage.
RINGTONES ASS RAPPERS IS KILLING HIP HOP says...
The only reason why the south has that many Top 10 debuts is because your putting the WHOLE Souther region against one city. The same goes for Chicago.
Now if you Break it down by the City it would look like this:
Los Angeles: crickets
New York:
Mims #4
Fabolous #1
Talib Kweli #2
Swizz Beatz #7
50Cent #2
Chicago:
Common #1
Kanye West #1
Atlanta:
T.I. #1
Young Jeezy and USDA #4
Yung Joc #3
Some where in Alabama:
Rich Boy #6
Memphis:
Young Buck #3
8ball & MJG #8
Houston:
Paul Wall #8
UGK #1
Maimi:
DJ Kahled #8
T-Pain #1
So in conclusion NEW YORK WINS!!!
September 20, 2007 10:09 AM
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BROOKLYN STAND UP!
man fuck papoose that little fuck aint even dropped a album yet and he talking shit about the south. thats why they dropped his simple ass you still wet behind the ears. you did one song with busta and thought you was gone blow up naw fuck o. word to the wise if you new artist dont start your career off talking shit about the south. we aint from NY we buy our cd's around here. i hope he go wood when he drop, go back 2 africa you one hot 16 having ass figga.
HEY YOU FAGGOT! KINDOM COME WAS NOT 4 BLOCKBUSTERS,BLOCK-BUSTER! A,A HOL ON..98 SWAG?! NIGGA YOU SOUND STOOPID! NEW YORK IS NOT ON THEY SHIT,BUT YOU KNO WHO IS? JOEY CRACK,YEA FOOL AND DIPSET.SO FUCK THE PAST.AND BY THE WAY,CHANGE CLOTH WAS FOR FRESH NIGGAS,NOT MARK ASS NIGGAS LIKE YOURSELF WHO AINT BOUGHT A NEW PAIR AH SHOES SINCE THE LAST JORDANS(the ones you have on now)CAME OUT! "LOOK DOG,YOU DONT RIDE LEATHER AND WOOD, YOU ARE A SUBWAY NIGGA".TYPE OF NIGGA WIT THA LATEST I-POD N' SHIT!!! SO BE A BITCH ALL BYYOURSELF AND KEEP REAL NIGGAZ NAME OUT YOUR FILTHY BACKPACKING MOUTH!!!
@ Bobby "the fruit-cake" Drake
For the record if you think T-Pain is a rapper then you need to kill yourself with your goverment issue
@ RINGTONES ASS RAPPERS IS KILLING HIP HOP says
u can manipulate the facts how u want, but when rap music is getting put in categories it's always south, east, west, and mid-west. Even Reckless refered to the "south", not any one specific city. I would have included Phily and Jerzy and changed it from "NY" to "EastCoast", but both those cities aint done a damn thing in years.
Why is reckless hating on the song "Change Clothes". That song changed the game. That song got niggaz dressing like grown men - is something wrong with that?
If Hove hadn't drop that song, niggaz would still be wearing 7xxl white tee-shirts and throw back jerseys . . .oh my fault, them Gay-TL niggaz still do that.
I'm glad 2pac didn't make no songs like Change Clothes, Niggaz would have been wearing nose rings and tight leather vests!!!!!
yall seen Oscar de la Hoya's hot pics? hmmmmm DAMN!
Shouts to the real
Pray for justice, and peace in Jena Louisiana on today, September 20th.
JESUS IS LORD!
PZ
On the real though, this dude Jay-Z go around calling himself the "The Voice of the Young People" and shit like that but he ain't had shit to say about the Jena situation, Jay need to step the fuck up.
Kayne too, dude want to get all emotional about some VMA awards, but ain't said shit about the Jena 6.
No one is free while shit like this is going on. These hip hop dudes is looking real fucking weak, they only come around when they want you to buy they album or they clothes, but when you need them to use the fortune and fame that we, their fans and supporters, helped them gain they are no where to be found.
How the fuck is David Bowie going to give money to the cause before 50 Cent, Jay-Z, Puffy, Kanye, Nas, etc..All these dudes running around talking that "Black Power" shit ain't nothing but some pacified coons. I ain't supporting Jay until he speak out, to whom much is given much is expected and yes that means you.
Also where the fuck is Russell's HHANN or whatever the fuck they call themselves, the hip hop community is looking real weak right now. These rappers want to go hard on Al Sharpton but atleast he stands for something besides money, cars, and hoes.
PZ says...
Pray for justice, and peace in Jena Louisiana on today, September 20th.
JESUS IS LORD!
PZ
September 20, 2007 10:33 AM
What about me?
Just like it took folks 10 years to grasp to Reasonable Doubt it will take you young hip hop heads another 10 years to understand the growth of Hov on Kiingdom Come.
Pap get your business straight and rep Brooklyn to the fullest.
jay coming out with another album? so what? can't say i'm excited about it.....not surprised pap got dropped, it was just a matter of time
B- Stuy Long says...
Just like it took folks 10 years to grasp to Reasonable Doubt it will take you young hip hop heads another 10 years to understand the growth of Hov on Kiingdom Come.
Pap get your business straight and rep Brooklyn to the fullest.
September 20, 2007 10:56 AM
I will soon as you stop reppin Brooklyn with that old ass dusty Motor Bike. My little sister bike got a bigger engine then that piece of shit you riding!
These rappers want to go hard on Al Sharpton but atleast he stands for something besides money, cars, and hoes.
September 20, 2007 10:50 AM
People hate on "Kingdome Come" but Kanye's new album has the same vibe and I love both of them.
Papoose says...
B- Stuy Long says...
Just like it took folks 10 years to grasp to Reasonable Doubt it will take you young hip hop heads another 10 years to understand the growth of Hov on Kiingdom Come.
Pap get your business straight and rep Brooklyn to the fullest.
September 20, 2007 10:56 AM
I will soon as you stop reppin Brooklyn with that old ass dusty Motor Bike. My little sister bike got a bigger engine then that piece of shit you riding!
September 20, 2007 10:59 AM
Ahh nuccas hatin cause your boy got a 06 ninja and 07 charger, get a new pair of kicks cause the ones you have on is leanin
Let's be clear. Pap didnt get 1.5 mill up ffront. 1.5 mill represented 500k budget per album on a 3 album deal. since the first album never dropped the budget was never released so basically they didnt see any $ other the the money they had to pay scott storch, snoop, and other producers, features they used
@OJ
Whoever is posting as you is real childish. To even pretend to be you and type that when there are real deal things goin on down in LA. It shows a level of unmeasurable immaturity.
But for the real OJ...I'ma pray for justice in his case as well.
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
That is my fucken opinion brooklyn you fucken hater. And this aint school. people could spell the way they wanna spell. It seems your not readin this shit right if your not a jay-z dick rider why u defending jay-z dick writters, unless u are one yourself. Y O U R bitch ass needs to go to school, cause it seems your the type of dumb ignorant muthafucka that don't pay attention and talks out of your ass first. If your not Jay-Z a dick rider then don't let it get to you, its just my opinion joe
Jay finna shut a lot of niggas mouth....I can't wait til Nov 6.....he gone be so over these cats head it ain't even funny.......It's the Roc mothaphuckas....oh yeah Free Jena 6...or in old boys case Jena 1.....
Yeah like Abulance chasing, Face Time on TV and Hookers & Coke. says...
These rappers want to go hard on Al Sharpton but atleast he stands for something besides money, cars, and hoes.
September 20, 2007 10:50 AM
September 20, 2007 11:01 AM
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True Al Sharpton has many faults, but if was perfect his name would be Jesus Christ. For all his faults atleast the man isn't scared to put himself on the for front for his people, if the money is right and press will be there.
I don't agree with alot of what Sharpton does but he does provide a voice for our people. As a young black man who grew up in the 90's it would be cool to see one these hip hop dudes step up, but they to busy trying to make money to care.
Dudes go around comparing themselves to Malcolm X and other REAL freedom fighters but when the fight is on they running like Cam at the Rucker leaving the community to get defend itself like Jim Jones.
PZ says...
@OJ
Whoever is posting as you is real childish. To even pretend to be you and type that when there are real deal things goin on down in LA. It shows a level of unmeasurable immaturity.
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
September 20, 2007 11:07 AM
Praying? Is that how your contributing to the Jena 6, or did you make a new mixtape about the subject.
You Christians crack me up, when Dre and Brooklyn B was talking about this situation months ago you didn't say shit about it. Now that this is all over the news you wanna act concerned? GTFOH
Let me quess you have on all black today too right?
Dre Guevara says...
yall seen Oscar de la Hoya's hot pics? hmmmmm DAMN!
Shouts to the real
September 20, 2007 10:31 AM
Nah, we don't wanna cee that shit, U damn homo.
I saw the pic ya moms took 4 MILF magazine, U should be proud 2 have a mom that's a hot piece of ass, I'll fuck that bitch!
Be original, ya shit is sloppy, get off the dick U muthafuckin' carbon copy!
Xclusive BK Dude says...
PZ says...
@OJ
Whoever is posting as you is real childish. To even pretend to be you and type that when there are real deal things goin on down in LA. It shows a level of unmeasurable immaturity.
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
September 20, 2007 11:07 AM
Praying? Is that how your contributing to the Jena 6, or did you make a new mixtape about the subject.
You Christians crack me up, when Dre and Brooklyn B was talking about this situation months ago you didn't say shit about it. Now that this is all over the news you wanna act concerned? GTFOH
Let me quess you have on all black today too right?
September 20, 2007 11:15 AM
DAMN!!!!
That's Cold Bleed!!!
Papoose is garbage New York is not even on the map Mistah Fab gets more spins then any artist coming out of New York an he is independant local rapper from the bay. New York needs to reinvent its self or its cookies...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54g24QCKzMA
Fact of the matter remains, what the kids did was assult. They need to be tried for assault. Just because some whities put up a couple nooses (which isnt against the law for some reason) dosent mean you can go jump some kid 6 on one and send him to the hospital. Was the kid even involved in the noose thing?
@Xclusive Bk Dude
Why you always got somethin to say lil homey?
I hit up Xclusive BK Dude on myspace, and the man was laughin sayin it wasn't him on this blog talkin all that nois...so I ain't even gonna take you seriously.
Keep danglin you lil terd. lol
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
Xclusive BK Dude says...
PZ says...
@OJ
Whoever is posting as you is real childish. To even pretend to be you and type that when there are real deal things goin on down in LA. It shows a level of unmeasurable immaturity.
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
September 20, 2007 11:07 AM
Praying? Is that how your contributing to the Jena 6, or did you make a new mixtape about the subject.
You Christians crack me up, when Dre and Brooklyn B was talking about this situation months ago you didn't say shit about it. Now that this is all over the news you wanna act concerned? GTFOH
Let me quess you have on all black today too right?
September 20, 2007 11:15 AM
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Yo whoever this is PLEASE STOP STANNING ME, use someone else's screen name u can't have my shyt damn I don't even comment on this blog no more bcuz of u.
1st the SOHH Ya Heard Blog now this one get a fuckin' life homie or another screen name whichever comes first just do it.
PZ says...
@Xclusive Bk Dude
Why you always got somethin to say lil homey?
I hit up Xclusive BK Dude on myspace, and the man was laughin sayin it wasn't him on this blog talkin all that nois...so I ain't even gonna take you seriously.
Keep danglin you lil terd. lol
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
September 20, 2007 11:27 AM
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Yo PZ that wasn't me fam we already discussed this on myspace a couple weeks ago and if u think I'm lying I'll send u our conversation. Like I was sayin' there is a stan out to Defamate my Character but its not gonna happen bcuz I'ma expose his lame ass.
Peep the Ya Heard Blog he even tried to start a conversation with me yo I'm signing off this is MY LAST POST. 100
...but to address the questions that the lil terd brought up, if Dre and Brooklyn B brought it up, and I didn't speak up on it...it's because I wasn't familiar with it. I don't fish for cookies from nobody, don't need man's approval...I judge my beliefs on what the good book says. Right is right...and wrong is wrong...and that situation is wrong.
Am I draped in black? From head to toe BBBWWWOOOIIII!!!
I ride for my beliefs regardless of popular opinion, and if you ain't learned that by now..ttthhhheeeeennnn yyyyyoooouuuuu arrrrreeeeee ssssllllllooooooowwwwwww. RUN FOREST RUN! You'll catch up!
Dre and Brooklyn know me well enough to know I'm consistent. You consistent too...you a pest stanley, a pest.
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
Teenagers Accused Of Hanging Mannequin, Painted Black
POSTED: 10:28 am EDT September 20, 2007
MCDONOUGH, Ga. -- Henry County Police say three teenagers stole a training mannequin from the county fire department, sprayed it with black paint and the letters KKK on its chest and hung it near an embankment overlooking Interstate 75 south of Atlanta.
A preliminary hearing has been set for October 4th for 17-year-old Brandon McGill and 18-year-old Jarvis McCleod, both of Hampton, and 18-year-old Matthew Parsons of Monticello.
Police Sergeant Rene Swanson says the three were charged with burglary and interference with government property.
Police Captain Jason Bolton says the mannequin was pilfered from the Henry County Fire Department last week and was spotted by motorists hanging near an I-75 overpass Friday morning. Some were alarmed because they thought it was a human body.
The president of the county NAACP branch sees it as more than a prank. The Reverend Daniel Edwards said the three "were sending a message that says, `This is what we think of black people."'
PZ says...
...but to address the questions that the lil terd brought up, if Dre and Brooklyn B brought it up, and I didn't speak up on it...it's because I wasn't familiar with it. I don't fish for cookies from nobody, don't need man's approval...I judge my beliefs on what the good book says. Right is right...and wrong is wrong...and that situation is wrong.
Am I draped in black? From head to toe BBBWWWOOOIIII!!!
I ride for my beliefs regardless of popular opinion, and if you ain't learned that by now..ttthhhheeeeennnn yyyyyoooouuuuu arrrrreeeeee ssssllllllooooooowwwwwww. RUN FOREST RUN! You'll catch up!
Dre and Brooklyn know me well enough to know I'm consistent. You consistent too...you a pest stanley, a pest.
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
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consistent my black ass. I'm logging off for real now.
Xclusive BK Dude says...
PZ says...
...but to address the questions that the lil terd brought up, if Dre and Brooklyn B brought it up, and I didn't speak up on it...it's because I wasn't familiar with it. I don't fish for cookies from nobody, don't need man's approval...I judge my beliefs on what the good book says. Right is right...and wrong is wrong...and that situation is wrong.
Am I draped in black? From head to toe BBBWWWOOOIIII!!!
I ride for my beliefs regardless of popular opinion, and if you ain't learned that by now..ttthhhheeeeennnn yyyyyoooouuuuu arrrrreeeeee ssssllllllooooooowwwwwww. RUN FOREST RUN! You'll catch up!
Dre and Brooklyn know me well enough to know I'm consistent. You consistent too...you a pest stanley, a pest.
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
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consistent my black ass. I'm logging off for real now.
September 20, 2007 11:39 AM
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U FCUKIN' STAN STAY OFF MY SCREEN NAME BYTCH NI99A REAL TALK!
@THE REAL Xclusive BK
I didn't really think that's you, that's why I addressed him as a stanley.
Good music still sells? Ha! I guess that's why Common and Talib Kweli moved how many units? Don't kid yourself man. The only thing that has gotten better in hip-hop is the production and that's one of the reasons Ye out sold Fif. You all know you didn't buy Graduation for the lyrics you bought if because you knew that the beats would be nice and because 50 makes too much money for you to like him anymore.
Jena 6? They still committed a crime. says...
Fact of the matter remains, what the kids did was assult. They need to be tried for assault. Just because some whities put up a couple nooses (which isnt against the law for some reason) dosent mean you can go jump some kid 6 on one and send him to the hospital. Was the kid even involved in the noose thing?
September 20, 2007 11:26 AM
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Do you even know all the facts behing the situation or are you just talking out your ass, I'm go with the latter.
Google the shit then come back when you get your facts straight.
Teenagers get in fights daily, somewhere in America some teenager is beating up another teenager while we speak, but they ain't getting charged with ATTEMPTED FUCKING MURDER. Also the white kids beat up a black kid but NONE of them got charged with any crime, the black kids also got a shotgun pulled on them by an adult white man, again nothing came of it. Your obviously some white kids who just heard about this shit, like I said do some research then start to run your mouth.
HATE HATE AND MORE HATE says...
Why is reckless hating on the song "Change Clothes". That song changed the game. That song got niggaz dressing like grown men - is something wrong with that?
If Hove hadn't drop that song, niggaz would still be wearing 7xxl white tee-shirts and throw back jerseys . . .oh my fault, them Gay-TL niggaz still do that.
I'm glad 2pac didn't make no songs like Change Clothes, Niggaz would have been wearing nose rings and tight leather vests!!!!!
September 20, 2007 10:29 AM
You prefer Ny's new style of leather pants, leather hats and pastel colors. Fag go to a fashion show.
PZ says...
Am I draped in black? From head to toe BBBWWWOOOIIII!!!
September 20, 2007 11:34 AM
I'm not surprised, all the wiggers that swear they are black are dessed like that today, trying to give me a soul pound & shit. Fuck out of here with that White NIggaz bullshit. Black Crackers for life!!!! Shout out to O.J.!!!
fuck uuuuuuuuuuuuu says...
HATE HATE AND MORE HATE says...
Why is reckless hating on the song "Change Clothes". That song changed the game. That song got niggaz dressing like grown men - is something wrong with that?
If Hove hadn't drop that song, niggaz would still be wearing 7xxl white tee-shirts and throw back jerseys . . .oh my fault, them Gay-TL niggaz still do that.
I'm glad 2pac didn't make no songs like Change Clothes, Niggaz would have been wearing nose rings and tight leather vests!!!!!
September 20, 2007 10:29 AM
You prefer Ny's new style of leather pants, leather hats and pastel colors. Fag go to a fashion show.
September 20, 2007 11:56 AM
You must be a fag from FAGlanta that I was talking about. I can tell because your screen name looks like Soulja Boy wrote that bullshit. lmao @ youuuuuuuua
September 20, 2007 11:55 AM
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Ok, so what do those situations have to do with this one, are they related incidents? I read that they dropped the charges of AM on all but one kid who has yet to appear. They did beat someone's ass right? The black boy that was beat up, did he goto the police? Are these the same kids who got a shotgun pulled on them, and they were soo mad they found a random whitey to beat on? That makes it legal? I dont get ur logic here...
Shit, I forgot about the the Jena 6 rally today. I heard they are going to be a bunch of niggaz down there and you know niggaz like weed. Sorry Dre Guevara, but your gonna have to buy your regular bullshit $5.00 a bag of arizona from somewhere else! Holla
# bobby drake says...
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HATE HATE HATE, is that all that comes out of your crusty little mouth Reckless? Some guy got on Breezy the other day talkin about how females shouldn't blogg on hiphop. Ur just giving is beliefs credibility.
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1st off, i have failed to see what was wrong with Kindom Come. Was it because all his songs weren't filled with clever drug saleing references or metaphores for fucking groupies? That album was for the grown, and showed the same growth all these other niggas need to pay attention to. Jay can't rap about the projects cause he aint there no more.
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Well that pretty much sums it up for me...
To hear niggaz diss 50 Cent and drug rappers, and then turn around and called Kingdom Come wack shows how confused hip-hop fans are and how it is impossible to please them.
New York:
Mims #4
Fabolous #1WRONG FAB DEBUTED AT NUMBER 2 HOMIE
Talib Kweli #2
Swizz Beatz #7
50Cent #2
Chicago:
Common #1
Kanye West #1
Atlanta:
T.I. #1
Young Jeezy and USDA #4
Yung Joc #3
Some where in Alabama:
Rich Boy #6
Memphis:
Young Buck #3
8ball & MJG #8
Houston:
Paul Wall #8
UGK #1
Maimi:
DJ Kahled #8
T-Pain #1
So in conclusion NEW YORK WINS!!!*WRONG ACTUALLY CHICAGO WINS!*
CURTIS DEBUTED WITH 690,000, FAB 160,000, KWELI 60,000, SWIZZ BEATS 45,000, MIMS 78,000
DO THE MATH THATS 973,000 COPIES! KANYE ALMOST DID THAT BY HIMSELF. COMMON 155,000, KANYE 957,000 DO THE MATH=1,112,000 CHICAGO WINS! SORRY TO HURT YALL FEELINGS
Jena 6, Make Me Understand says...
September 20, 2007 11:55 AM
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Ok, so what do those situations have to do with this one, are they related incidents? I read that they dropped the charges of AM on all but one kid who has yet to appear. They did beat someone's ass right? The black boy that was beat up, did he goto the police? Are these the same kids who got a shotgun pulled on them, and they were soo mad they found a random whitey to beat on? That makes it legal? I dont get ur logic here...
September 20, 2007 12:01 PM
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no ass like big smoov said look it up then comment.
they aint find no random nothing the white kid called them black kids a nigger, and the 6 the locked up wasnt even positively identified as the ones who fought that kid. actually the kid that got "jumped" couldnt say who did what. the principle said nooses was a prank then turned around and said he wants them kids to get the maximum sentence so they dont "terrorize" another school.
the fuckin' DA said he could ruining these kids life with the stroke of a fucking pen.
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the white man that pull the shotty on the black kids got NOTHING the black kids got robbery charges
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a black kid got JUMPED in a all white party and THEM white kids got like 3 days in jail or some shit
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Yo if you DONT know then do research then comment, why comment on something u know nothing about.
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I GOT MY BLACK ON AND PUMPING MY BLACK FIST
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We might fight against each other but i promise you this, WE WILL BURN THIS BITCH DOWN IF U GET US PISSED!!!!!
NEW YORK HAD NO #1 DEBUTS, EVERY OTHER CITY HAD 1, BUT CHICAGO HAD TWO, I REPEAT TWO! I AINT TRYING TO TURN THIS INTO A CHICAGO VS. NEW YORK THING CUZ I FUCKS WITH ALOT OF THEIR ARTISTS I JUST HAD TO STATE THE FACTS
Ok, so what do those situations have to do with this one, are they related incidents? I read that they dropped the charges of AM on all but one kid who has yet to appear. They did beat someone's ass right? The black boy that was beat up, did he goto the police? Are these the same kids who got a shotgun pulled on them, and they were soo mad they found a random whitey to beat on? That makes it legal? I dont get ur logic here...
September 20, 2007 12:01 PM
Fuck you white ass pansies yuppie piece of shit. You dont never get black people's logic. So stay away. Stop listening to black music, wearing black clothes, talking black. Yes we have a copyright on all that shit. Crackers finna start having to pay interest on that shit. Whites are racist,materialistic, ungodly oppressive people by nature. Fuckin caveman.
RapIsAlive says...
# bobby drake says...
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HATE HATE HATE, is that all that comes out of your crusty little mouth Reckless? Some guy got on Breezy the other day talkin about how females shouldn't blogg on hiphop. Ur just giving is beliefs credibility.
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1st off, i have failed to see what was wrong with Kindom Come. Was it because all his songs weren't filled with clever drug saleing references or metaphores for fucking groupies? That album was for the grown, and showed the same growth all these other niggas need to pay attention to. Jay can't rap about the projects cause he aint there no more.
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Well that pretty much sums it up for me...
To hear niggaz diss 50 Cent and drug rappers, and then turn around and called Kingdom Come wack shows how confused hip-hop fans are and how it is impossible to please them.
September 20, 2007 12:07 PM
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CO- SIGN!!!!!!!!!
i realized today by reaching out to some of my friends how little we are in tune with the real issues going on in the real world. why is that more than half of the people i spoke with could tell me how many cds Kanye West sold his first week, but couldnt tell me a damn thing about the Jena 6 issue. its sad but true. I will be personally putting together a video of me meeting with people in the local Houston Tx community and interviewing them about the issue and just getting their opinion on the whole matter. also if you want to show your support being displayed, please email me pictures of you wearing your black at tragedy@therealcompound.com. A slide show will also be made of all the people showing their support.
@ brooklyn B
We cant just go burning shit down!! Niggas always get mad, but we end up fucking up OUR hood. They want us to burn our own hoods, so more of us can go to jail. Everytime there's a riot something like 15,000 hood niggas get locked up. We never go to the burbs and burn they shit down. We just make our hoods worse. Burned out abandoned houses making our hoods look Third World, only happens in black(and latino) neighborhoods. Go to a Senators house and fuck with them niggas.
slum lord says...
@ brooklyn B
We cant just go burning shit down!! Niggas always get mad, but we end up fucking up OUR hood. They want us to burn our own hoods, so more of us can go to jail. Everytime there's a riot something like 15,000 hood niggas get locked up. We never go to the burbs and burn they shit down. We just make our hoods worse. Burned out abandoned houses making our hoods look Third World, only happens in black(and latino) neighborhoods. Go to a Senators house and fuck with them niggas.
September 20, 2007 12:18 PM
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but if these kkrackas KNOW that if something happen to us there wont be no prayer, no meek bullshit. im not say burn our shit, but im saying if these racist fuckas no that there will be reprocussions to there racist actions thats the ONLY way in my opinion can we move foward in society.
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now when we learn to love and respect our self and take our title as the ORIGINAL MAN created BY the most high and is being tricked to believe that we aint shit by these devils thats how we move forward as a people.
Clown!!! I was born, raised and still live in Trinidad.
@Brooklyn B
There you go.
How do we break the cycle of "the hate that hate made"?
Yours is the answer? Your "most high"...who is he?
Mine teaches us to break that cycle by love...not tearin nothin up or beatin up on nobody. Because if somebody beats your family member down, how do you feel? Ok...someone beats a white persons family member down, how do they feel? I mean..ain't that the basics of what is going on in Jena?
I'm glad light is being brought to the issue, and I'm prayin that this thing goes off peaceful...then people see that we can get together peaceful and that it does work. If tearin stuff up worked, wouldn't it already be "better" then???
Where does that hate end according to that what your beliefs. I'd love to hear yous summarize the steps required to reach your ultimate goal, and what that utlimate goal would look like. Put it down on paper..type it up...let us see.
Brooklyn B says...
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now when we learn to love and respect our self and take our title as the ORIGINAL MAN created BY the most high and is being tricked to believe that we aint shit by these devils thats how we move forward as a people.
September 20, 2007 12:24 PM
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We didn't trick black people, we just forced Christianity down your ancestors throats (we forced dicks down the throats of females) and made them work in the cotton fields for 18 hours a day.
Being forced to do something and being tricked to do something are 2 different things.
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
PZ says...
@Brooklyn B
There you go.
How do we break the cycle of "the hate that hate made"?
Yours is the answer? Your "most high"...who is he?
Mine teaches us to break that cycle by love...not tearin nothin up or beatin up on nobody. Because if somebody beats your family member down, how do you feel? Ok...someone beats a white persons family member down, how do they feel? I mean..ain't that the basics of what is going on in Jena?
I'm glad light is being brought to the issue, and I'm prayin that this thing goes off peaceful...then people see that we can get together peaceful and that it does work. If tearin stuff up worked, wouldn't it already be "better" then???
Where does that hate end according to that what your beliefs. I'd love to hear yous summarize the steps required to reach your ultimate goal, and what that utlimate goal would look like. Put it down on paper..type it up...let us see.
September 20, 2007 12:38 PM
God burned them faggot's up in Sodom and Gomorrah, isn't that considered a hate crime?
And Brooklyn...when you said "if these kkrakas know"...I mean do you think these sick folks with that hate in their hearts, do you think it will pump fear? Honestly...if they was operatin on that plain of being able to contain their actions for fear of consequences, them clowns wouldn't be actin like they do in the first place. My point is, if you think that them white supremicists, or them white folks who is racist to the bone gristle is gonna back down...that's just ignorant. They want the race war probably more than anybody else...shoot they hold rallies all over the place acting a donkey.
The bottom line is that the only ones who are gonna suffer, are going to be the innocent bystanders, like the Reginald Dennies, and countless number of black folks who were not racist, yet caught in the middle because of their skin color. It ain't gonna hurt the ones ready to "die" under the militant cause, because they feel as strong about what they believe as you might what you believe. that's why the racist separation, the "us vs them"..that ain't gonna work and sure nuff won't fix nothing.
That's why you isolate the idiots who want to step contrary to peace and equality...you don't teach that separation "we are better than you" belief to your children, then racism chokes out. It only lives because it's watered and fed. And I'm sorry but the nonsense belief that every black man is god and that white folks is decendents of cave dwellers and is some gone bad science experiment...that's dangerous because again, it is setting one group of people above another and that ain't right. Don't believe me....just look back at history.
JESUS IS LORD!
PZ
CAN I POST?
Brooklyn B says...
Jena 6, Make Me Understand says...
September 20, 2007 11:55 AM
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Fuck that then. You cant explain it to me, I dont GAF.
You know what.. I was tripping earlier..I can't expect entertainers to be anything other than entertainers..these rapper guys are just that, entertainers and not to be taken seriously. All they want to do sing, dance, buy jewerly, and brag about how rich they are. And they wonder why won't nobody buy their album.
@Dre
No...the hate crime was conciously and repeatedly breaking God's law as though there would be no accountability, despite the warnings.
Thank God Jesus came, and is pleading on our behalf, or there would be alot of burnt up places and people gone because they decided to act a fool out against God...as though they were equal. Take a look back at the old testament and you show me any group of people who bucked God so openly and was not dealt with accordingly. I tell you what, there wouldn't be none of that "I'm God" stuff ya'll believe if it weren't for Jesus.
Nebachanezer (spelling) tried that mess...and where did he end up? In the wilderness...bent over like a beast...eating the grass.
Think about that one.
J AY Z IN NO GANGSTA HE IS A COWARD, AND ANOTHER NEWYORK RAPPER DROP, DAMM YALL WEAK
How many records did the "Watch my Feet" niggaz sell?
HONEST TO GOD TRUTH I DON'T LISTEN TO THE RADIO NOR WATCH VIDEOS. I DON'T KNOW WHO THEM NIGGAS ARE AND HAVE NEVER HEARD THEIR SONG...I DIDNT EVEN KNOW THAT YOUNG BERG WAS SUPPOSE TO BE FROM DA CHI, UNTIL SOHH SAID CHICAGO-BRED RAPPER YOUNG BERG FLOPS.
JAY Z IS CUTE AND HE HAS SOME SEXY LIPS. HE CAN STICK HIS BOOTY IN MY ASS ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
@PZ
when i see more whites getting gun down and beat by police then i can see where u coming from. when i hear white kids getting unjustly locked up, or drugs pushed in white communities and white schools not geting funding then i will "feel" what u saying.
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when i say the most high god that is MY god who gave the strength to MY people to with stand the whippin' of slavery, gave the power to the hatian brother to fight the white slave owners. when that willie lynch syndrome is implanted in you to hate your people and love, respect and fear the white man and ANY system that is used to oppress us as a race we as NUBIANS need to open our 3rd eye which is our mind.
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you can talk about peace and love and what your god say all day but im sure if you check YOUR history you will see that YOUR peace and love and living together is NOT how the white man came in to power.
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when the white man came to america he came with bibles and guns so dont tell me about peace and love, when crosses was burning on black people yards and hanging black bodies hanged on trees by the same preachers and cops and congress people that smiled and sat next to you in church.
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when other races feel the bullshit that black people always had to endur THEN and only THEN will i take advice from someone who is not being oppressed
@ PZ
Black people are different when it comes to the Lord. White people used christianity to opress black people. If God truly redeems all, then theres alot, alot, alot, alot of white people going scraight to hell.
slum lord says...
@ PZ
Black people are different when it comes to the Lord. White people used christianity to opress black people. If God truly redeems all, then theres alot, alot, alot, alot of white people going scraight to hell.
September 20, 2007 1:04 PM
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amen for those that dont know
@PZ
How do we break the cycle of "the hate that hate made"?
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1st the hate makers need to be called out, the hate that hate made, dude there are blacks that dont know where the fuck in "africa" there people come from. we are a race of people with NO COUNTRY, NO LANGUAGE AND NO FLAG. how do WE, WE as blacks dont do shit we need to build our self up cause WE didnt create the hate, we didnt create the kkk nor did we burn crosses on lawns, we didnt inject our self with syphillis, nor bombed up black wall street in oklahoma.
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fuck forming peace with a people that countinue to break us down, fuck that shit
@Brooklyn B and Slum Lord
I agree...they used Christianity to suppress black people, and I agree slum Lord, that them folks that did that is going to hell.
But see..here is where the problem is. You are allowing someone elses actions to dictate what you believe about something. If you read the bible, you will see for yourself that THEM WAYS...was not from the Lord, nor were they condoned or promoted....or please God.
It's the very stereotypical attitude that you hate to be placed on you. You don't want people judging you and telling you who you are, and what you are about...just based on the actions of others or what has been taught about you, yet you do it to Christianity.
It was misused, it was abused..and now we are standing up and calling it how it was. IT WAS WRONG...but it wasn't CHRISTIANITY..it was the idiots acting out up under God's name.
Matthew 7: 21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
Who do you think that was talking about? Who do you tihnk Jesus spoke most harsh too? The church folks...the folks fakin the funk up under His name.
What is hard to understand about that folks? Don't be tellin me about what other did under Christ name. You go find out what Christ was about and then you tell me what HE did wrong...or what HE teaches which is contrary to what is right.
That's alot of the problems...folks too busy lookin at MAN and not seeking God.
Here is a tip...man is ALWAYS gonna let you down. Name me one person in your life who hasn't let you down at least once, and I'll show you a person WHO AIN'T GOD.
@Brooklyn B
Ok...so let me ask you this. If you were to bring all that beef to my face, and have beef with me personally about it because I'm white and you are black....then what? What's that gonna do for you, and what's that gonna do for me?
I ain't denyin all what you sayin...but I'm breakin it down for you.
Then what?
You swing on me and get that anger out, and then I swing on you...and then we both bleedin red. Then what? What's next?
@Brooklyn B
Ok...that versus this.
Me and you going together, and me telling a black youth "look, what them christians tried to tell your ancestors, and how they took them from their land...they was WRONG FOR THAT..and it WAS MISUSING GODS NAME, and like Jesus himself said...everyone that claims his name does not come from him" and then you right next to me is you, telling them "you are a strong person, you're nothing you've been taught, you can't be held down unless you allow it. You're special, you're loved."
You mean that's not the answer? you really in your heart believe that your way is the right way.
The "naw man...fuck that" attitude you carry about...that's what we need more of???
Looks like Church is in session.
COME ON! says...
Looks like Church is in session.
September 20, 2007 1:32 PM
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Naw man...I ain't gonna preach. I'm speaking common sense. I'm done on that topic though, there ain't nothin else new I can say about it.
YHWH BLESS!
PZ
@PZ
didnt the devil convince the world that he didnt exist? whats the best way to trick god people? to tell them to follow a religion. it dont matter HOW many times you say THOSE people that used the lord name wrong will be punished and all that but it dont change the fact that it happen and it happen more then 3 times. i dont care how many times u try to convince me but religion is a sin and wrong and prolly created by the devil to help separate the minds of the people.
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you said all that peace and love shit but get tight when me or dre say peace god, peace allah. your the same one that said allah (which means god) is a moon god but on the same token say god have many names i guess just not allah.
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enuff of the pray for a better day its time for black people to regain there identity.
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Africa for Africans home and abroad
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free Jena 6
@Brooklyn B
Regarding your belief that the devil created "religion" to trick people, this verse sums that belief up.
Matthew 12
22Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. 23All the people were astonished and said, "Could this be the Son of David?"
24But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, "It is only by Beelzebub,[d] the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons."
25Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 26If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? 27And if I drive out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. 28But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
29"Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can rob his house.
30"He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. 31And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
33"Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. 34You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. 35The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. 37For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."
Satan can not come and preach "peace, and love" which is what Christ is about. How can satan be responsible for that?
Anyway bro, I'm done talkin circles. Keep working on your end and I'll keep workin on my end, and in the end...we'll meet in the middle.
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
PZ says...
@Brooklyn B
Regarding your belief that the devil created "religion" to trick people, this verse sums that belief up.
Matthew 12
22Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. 23All the people were astonished and said, "Could this be the Son of David?"
24But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, "It is only by Beelzebub,[d] the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons."
25Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 26If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? 27And if I drive out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. 28But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
29"Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man's house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can rob his house.
30"He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. 31And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
33"Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. 34You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. 35The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. 37For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."
Satan can not come and preach "peace, and love" which is what Christ is about. How can satan be responsible for that?
Anyway bro, I'm done talkin circles. Keep working on your end and I'll keep workin on my end, and in the end...we'll meet in the middle.
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
September 20, 2007 1:50 PM
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I thought Church wasn't in session?
NOW, U SEE, IF PAPOOSE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN WITH DEF JAM, HE MAY HAVE ALREADY CAME OUT. OR AT LEAST BEEN A PART OF THIS NEW YORK RAP REVOLUTION. BUT INSTEAD HES STUCK WITH HIS JAYZ HATIN BOSS SPINNING RECORDS THAT NO ONE REALLY CARES ABOUT. PAPOOSE IS A DOPE MC, BUT HE MUST SEPERATE HIMSELF FROM BIASED PEOPLE AND GET MONEY.
its amazing that with kanye selling 1mill in a week, you guys still have room in your hearts to hate jay z. i ask people why its so popular to hate jayz and they all say the same thing:
i dont know, i just do.
hate for a reason for christ sake.
Brooklyn B says...
@PZ
when i see more whites getting gun down and beat by police then i can see where u coming from. when i hear white kids getting unjustly locked up, or drugs pushed in white communities and white schools not geting funding then i will "feel" what u saying.
September 20, 2007 1:04 PM
Brother Brooklyn B,
If you join the cause of the Black Cracker Movement, one day this will become a reality. If you didn't know by now The Black Crackers stand for the deterioration of white supremacy by impregnating as many fine ass white women as possible. We also have a policy of ruining the credit of our white counterparts and selling dope to only white children. Get them while they are young. We also go to golf courses in the suburbs, country clubs, hockey games, and anything where a lot of white women will be, to intimidate the white masses and let them know the Black Crackers are in the establishment.
Joseph Carrington
*** President of the Black Cracker Movement 07 ***
hate for a reason for christ sake.
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I hate for Christ's Sake, thats my reason.
man BCM
im dead ass serious im not even joking right now, the number one tool the oppressors have is the mind of the oppressed.
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if thats what u wanna do col but im DEAD serious dude we as a people cant continue to be attacked and tricked with religion and politricks of this company called amerikkka.
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just like i tell PZ all the time until i see more whites getting oppressed by this society then we can build and talk about change but until then it will always be black vs white
And since Jesus is white, I hate niggers
Brooklyn B says...
man BCM
im dead ass serious im not even joking right now, the number one tool the oppressors have is the mind of the oppressed.
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if thats what u wanna do col but im DEAD serious dude we as a people cant continue to be attacked and tricked with religion and politricks of this company called amerikkka.
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just like i tell PZ all the time until i see more whites getting oppressed by this socie