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Update: Remy Released from Riker's - Plus Pics of Victim, 50 Cent's "I Get Money" Vid Circulates
Posted on July 16, 2007 2:33 AM
Pic via Straightouttanyc
So Remy Ma wasn't quite pursued by the NYPD, which is surprising, but rumors threw her name under the bus in the case of a wounded woman who was shot in the torso just before 4am Saturday morning during a confrontation that took place after leaving a bar in Downtown, Manhattan.
The cops told SOHH yesterday that even though they had spoken with witnesses and Remy was named a suspect, that they "are not releasing any information like that yet. We haven't named any suspect."
The victim, 23-year-old Makeda Barnes-Joseph [pictured far right], is in stable condition at St. Vincent's hospital.
Remy finally turned herself in to a precinct yesteray afternoon. Now, she's sitting in Riker's Island. Where officers lose their lives. She better be careful.
UPDATE: Remy was released from jail on a $250,000 bond Sunday. Barnes-Joseph, who is one of Remy's friends, is rumored to be after a quick payoff; in other words, the whole thing could have been a set-up. However, she claims otherwise:
"All I heard was the gun go off," she said from her bed at St. Vincent's Hospital in Manhattan. "I couldn't believe she shot me! What hurts me is that when she shot me she went over and dumped the bag. She didn't even say, 'Oh, my God, I just shot her.'"So what is "Shesus Kryst" to do now?
View Barnes' Myspace page.
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This is (yawn) Curtis' video for "I Get Money." Everytime I hear him say "I run New York," I think about how he got his album pushed back... for the second time.
Quite cliche. Your typical money-chicks-and-entourage kind of video. Next. This is not a good look for you, homie.
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This is a tad bit old, but what's funny is that it's more relevant now than it was when it first came out. Heads up: it's the middle of July.
"I been signed to Diplomat Records since two thousand and fuckin two. I'm droppin June 28th. That's my release date. For all the dumb c*ck-suckin f*ggots who think I'm not droppin an album. June 28th stupid. What the f*ck I look like not droppin an album? Is you crazy? I looked like I killed an album already! Look at me, stupid! Look at me! I looked like I put out an album already n*gga! I been signed to Diplomat Records since two thousand four. Whoever said that I'm not dropping is a mothaf*ckin clown man. What I look like not droppin? I'm one of the most important figures to the 'Set, n*gga. Bleek, you're not hot. Tru Life... I'm not even gonna talk about yall n*ggas no more, man."
Say word?
I gotta admit although the subject matter for 50 hasn't changed the song is the hardest shit in NY right now mainstream wise which hurts me to say. I think Remy is having bad luck at the right time; mixtape dropping, dropping bodies at the same time. I think we are living in a dead culture right now, where the fuck are we? I mean true story rap used to be diverse and even the hardest rappers back in the day used to be conscious to their surroundings and how fucked up they were and still are. I read a article by wise Intelligent yesterday where he says that the revolutionary in the artist should come before the artistry and I think he's right. I just honestly believe that most rappers are cowards and slaves hence someone owning your masters. I think the hip hop community has to formulate a plan to control itself. Coonery is at an all time high and I think that you need to create instead of kill. Where are the balls on these rappers? I love the LOX but lost so much respect for Jada when he recanted the bush knocked down the towers statement on "WHY". Jimmy iovine got in Jada's ass and he switched up the story, incredible house nigga mentality. I just feel disappointed with hip hop because I don't feel like their are that many people at all who represent me and my positive stance as a Black intellect with the exception of Common, Nas, and Mos Def. I'm for the people, not killing them. I was listening to my cousins CD the other day and it was trash, he's 20 not in school and works at the Hyatt in Manhattan, yet on the CD he's moving bricks running with AK's and Lexmarks, I told him his shit was ass and that if he wanted to really blow he would be himself. I think that these days the rappers attempt to fit the shoes of the position instead of creating a new facet of said position. Why isn't anybody speaking on the issues of aids in the Black Community, the violence that is continually perpetuated in the music. the rappers that talk about it ain't doing all it. The lives that we fictionally paint can come true and art is not imitating life today just the opposite is happening, we're immune to the chaos because we force feed it to ourselves. As a Blackman I'm happy 50's almost a Billionaire but if he ain't helping his community fuck him, same with Jay, he understand the need for clean water in Africa yet continues to Glorify the gamne that is no to be talked about. I mean if you wanna be real with itmost rappers talking about guns and drugs are snitches, white people got all that shit plus tons more but they songs are happy go lucky. They sing about whatever and really get ill with it and bomb a whole fucking country, hit them on the head and take what they got. That's power, the power is in the politics of your community and seeking everyday to make your community and family stronger to resist the bullshit coonery that is "Aye Bay Bay", "Wipe me Down" and just about everything the Ying yang twins have done. Stop fucking Cooning!!! I'm just having a hard time attemping to not slug people other than blacks that i wouldn't wear fronts (a grill) if some one gave them to me. I got a mean two step but I ain't chicken noodle souping it for their viewing pleasure and that my jeans ass stay on my ass instead of on my legs, take your fucking identity back as the people who created Black Wall Street, architectually designed Washington DC and the same people who invented the street light. Wipe me down? Fuck those idiots get you dingity back Black people. until then Get my pool in the backround.
50 SO COOL HE IS APPEAL TO EVERY OTHER RACES BESIDE BLACKS
WHO THE FUCK WANNA HEAR SOME UGLY BROKE BUMS FROM HOODS? WE (IM SOME WHITE/MEXICAN SCENE KID) WE WANNA HEAR THAT COOL SHIT LIKE 50'S
GGGGGG-UNIT THEY THE BEST MAKING US BETTR BANKS BUCK 50 THAT'S WHAT'S UP
@RECKLESS THE HOTTEST RECORD OUT..
NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY UR CALLED RECKLESS(UR A CLOWN) PERIOD.
50'S HOT OUT THERE AGAIN NIGGA, KEEP HATIN ALL U WANT BUT WHEN THE ALBUM DROPS U'LL SEE WHAT HE MEANS BY ''I RUN NEW YORK...FAGGOT...
Wow. It looks like 50 had a $10 budget for that video. The theme is stereotypical rap industry cooning just as the song's lyrics are. That being said I love the beat on the song if that means anything.
Your blog title is misleading and the blog on Remy in general is confusing. Remy is not on Rikers for murder, but attempted murder. Did you do that on purpose?
Did Hell Rell's CD drop?
Aye.when u got a trillion dollars in tha bank,what else can u rap about.ill rap bout my bread all day 2...shiit,fuck that.I wouldn't be rappin at all lol.
I tried to give SOHH.com another chance and once again you proved to me that your all haters just like Benzino, get off 50 case he does run NY if he don't who is runnin it. I Get Money is the summer banger and SOHH.com is the only site that seems to think different. For real I am really done with your site and I will stick to Allhiphop.com, and HiphopDX.com sites that know hiphop regaurdless who makes it. Peace For Good
Rap is corny. Hell Rell sounds like a lame trying hard to sound hard and look hard. These people are ignorant and should be ignored.
Remy must've been high. What type of men would've stood by and let that happen? Lames that's who. Those dudes with her were chumps.
50 has been the biggest artist not just in NY but the game for the last 4yrs. People hate him because their opinion of what hip hop is or should be isn't winning.
Rap is tired. EVERYONE is too old. The artists, blog writers, radio personalities, etc.
Immaturity is en vogue thanks to rap. Time to grow up people and be adults. If you're +30 forget about rapping. If you're +25 forget about "keeping it Gangsta."
So many people have to wait for adulthood to become cool teens. If you're a +25yr old cool teen then you're a lame ass adult.
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Remy Ma looks like a Black Labradoodle
http://www.rompindoodlesusa.com/Images/Cody/labradoodle%205.gif
Go Check out Talkin Vids blog today Fam, You know what it is.
Damn Nirod you spittin that fire this morning. I don't know if I agree with you totally. You can be an older rapper as long as you are not rapping about immature topics, such as I get money over and over again. There are older hip hop fans who would love to hear a rapper talking about things that effect them. Believe me when I tell you that you don't outgrow a love of music. As for radio DJs it takes time and experience to work your way up to that position so they can only be but so young.
U accidentally signed Nimrod instead of Bird, Bird. I thought that was odd I was like why is he having a convo with himself.
U accidentally signed Nimrod instead of Bird, Bird. I thought that was odd I was like why is he having a convo with himself.
Posted by: *Future* at July 16, 2007 8:28 AM
That wasn't me that was my rotten front tooth stanning again
Sorry
graet post big sun as usual, what more is there to say....
I guess I was thinking about you real hard Nimrod. I accidentally typed your name in the signature. :)
Remy is wildin!!!! Damm she is illin!!!... On tha real!!!
Hip Hop began as music for teens by teens. By the time rappers hit 24 they were once considered old. Hammer was 27 and everyone complained about him being old. LL called him an old gym teacher in one of his songs. Nowadays rappers don't get deals until they're 27. The lyrical content has aged tremendously as far as vulgarity and subject matter due to the increasing age of artists BUT the primary consumers of the music remain young people and that's where the problem lies. In order to relate to the consumer the artists are rewarded for childish behavior. They don't look like kids so the next best thing is to act like them.
Big Sun
You know what they say about black people not reading. The fact that your posts are long means many bloggers are not reading it. You be spittin some serious knowledge that they could at least store in their minds for later use. I just fear they are not reading it.
all I hear nowadays is stop cooning from others and stop acting white from the rest...BE YOUR FUCKING SELF....don't listen to any asshole on the internet thats for damn sure, ie. big sun, lol your fuckin hypocrite son...you talked a bunch of shit about white ppl havin all that shit and bomb countries...but you wanan blame hip hop for the problems that the world faces today??? you contradicted urself way to quickly...nothin else you say EVER on this website can have any intellgence to it.
OMG once again these writers on SOHH are hatin on 50.....I mean dayum leave the man alone he got the hardest record out right now.....it's favored by all the DJ's on HOT 97....don't believe me? hit me up and I'll give you the link to the interview 50 did before the premiere of the video & everyone one giving positive reviews on it....but NEwayz, I wonder what other shit ya'll gonna be talkin on 50 once that week comes and he sold 600,000 + records....go ahead and keep hatin cuz all ya'll niggas is doing is promoting him and building up more hype....GET EM 50!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Nimrod at July 16, 2007 8:08 AM
Immaturity is en vogue thanks to rap. Time to grow up people and be adults. If you're +30 forget about rapping. If you're +25 forget about "keeping it Gangsta."
So many people have to wait for adulthood to become cool teens. If you're a +25yr old cool teen then you're a lame ass adult.
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That's some real shit dawg. Download or listen to this song from Nas called second childhood, it's on his lost tapes cd, it talks about the same thing.
Hip Hop began as music for teens by teens. By the time rappers hit 24 they were once considered old. The lyrical content has aged tremendously as far as vulgarity and subject matter due to the increasing age of artists BUT the primary consumers of the music remain young people and that's where the problem lies. In order to relate to the consumer the artists are rewarded for childish behavior. They don't look like kids so the next best thing is to act like them.
Posted by: Nimrod at July 16, 2007 8:58 AM
I'd have to disagree with that whole statement. When LL started out as a teen he was considered to be VERY young in the game. That was not the norm. It used to be that it took some life experience and a level of intelligence to write a rhyme. Further men talking about how many hoes they smash, how much money they're getting on the street corner and how many negroes they killed for looking at them wrong is not a sign of being too old. It is a sign of ignorance and should be expected from a teenager and not a grown man and shouldn't be acceptable by either.
@Bird
100% co-sign, We as a people don't read enough. Its like our Great-Grandparents fought and suffered for all these rights and then we didn't do anything at all with them.
Me personally I've always loved to read, I've probubly read hundreds of books. On the other hand I can't get my brother to read my posts.
Big Sun always comes with some thought provoking posts. I only come to the NY blog to see what the young revolutionary has to say.
@ Big Sun:
The people don't want enlightenment. They love ignorance, that's a Fact. When so-called "positive" rappers come out, people don't buy them, mainly because they suck and you can't move to it. Black People dance. Having said that, if all rap was preaching, it would suck too. Just because you can't feel a song doesn't make it trash. "Wipe Me Down" is a dope ass track. Your cuz will sell big talking about what he is becuz people want that. If you want to find a concious rapper, just go to any loading dock, that's where they're working.
More so than the lyrics what I'm most offended by are the images of black people presented as the norm in hip hop. I recently opened a XXL and saw a picture of Webbie and Lil Boosie. Both were tatoo'd and shirtles wearing tacky jewels. One had a medallion which read "Dope Zone." They might as well had been wearing blackface. They and their kind are the modern day minstrels and Tupac was the prototype.
The only way to deal with their like is to separate ourselves from them. Some people don't want to change so let them reap what they sow. It would help if images like that wasn't promoted on TV, radio and in magazines. Without the attention maybe these morons would just go away.
@Bird
You're right. LL was considered very young but I don't think I referenced HIS age anywhere in my post. Typically, rappers were 18-19yrs old when they dropped their first album and as far as life experiences go then as today rappers relied mostly on what they saw or resorted to the now played out bragadoccio style. (well maybe it's not so played out. LOL!)
Anyway, do your research and you'll see all the great rappers from that era whether Rakim, Kane, KRS, G Rap, etc, had peaked before their 23rd birthday. They tended to come on the scene around 18 and drop an album every year. By the 3rd album all had slipped.
Be easy Bird. I like you. LOL! ;)
Btw, no disrespect to anyone but the school system in the NE was excellent in those days and produced MC's who actually understood the vocabulary. Not to mention the incorporation of the five percenter teachings which was prevalent at the time. Cats from other areas couldn't keep up so they dumbed it down and now we've followed suit... The blind leading the blind.
Just because you can't feel a song doesn't make it trash. "Wipe Me Down" is a dope ass track. Your cuz will sell big talking about what he is becuz people want that. If you want to find a concious rapper, just go to any loading dock, that's where they're working.
Posted by: T from ATL at July 16, 2007 9:12 AM
Who's your favorite rapper?
See there, Remy shouldn't have put up that mixtape cover.
Let her go down for this, then I bet you she'll be callin on Jesus. Whatever it takes....her soul is worth it.
I'm out!
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
See there, Remy shouldn't have put up that mixtape cover.
Let her go down for this, then I bet you she'll be callin on Jesus. Whatever it takes....her soul is worth it.
I'm out!
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 9:40 AM
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that gotta be 1 of the dumbiest shit i ever heard of.
so this shit happen over a figgin' drawing of a mixtape cover, GTFOH
shesus kryst, you be on some other shit
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Posted by: T from ATL at July 16, 2007 9:12 AM
Who's your favorite rapper?
Posted by: ?uestion at July 16, 2007 9:35 AM
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what up T
his favorite rapper is me!
ay bay bay
Posted by: T from ATL at July 16, 2007 9:12 AM
Who's your favorite rapper?
Posted by: ?uestion at July 16, 2007 9:35 AM
Deeze Cheezeburgerz
Man, I'll suck your dick!!!
LOL!!!
Big Sun
You know what they say about black people not reading. The fact that your posts are long means many bloggers are not reading it. You be spittin some serious knowledge that they could at least store in their minds for later use. I just fear they are not reading it.
Posted by: Bird at July 16, 2007 9:00 AM
@ Bird,
it's like the Gr8 Chris Rock said....
"Niggas love not knowin' shit"
he also said....
"Books 2 Niggas R like Kryptonite 2 Superman"
shesus kryst, you be on some other shit
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 9:44 AM
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The dumbest shit on this site is you constantly sayin "BROOKLYN STAND UP" and not ever speaking up on what you stand for, all while danglin' on my nuts while I'm reppin my King.
I believe blasphemy don't go unchecked. Do you homeboy... while I carry my cross.
Sit back down..BROOKLYN.
JESUS LIVES!
PZ
so this shit happen over a figgin' drawing of a mixtape cover, GTFOH
shesus kryst, you be on some other shit
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 9:44 AM
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Of course not . . . well sort of. You see instead of praying for world peace and ending hunger in places like Africa, I prayed for something bad to happen to Remy. I also prayed for the stans, Bird's front tooth, and for you to stop saying "Brooklyn Stand up" . . . God that gets on my nerves!!!
CHRIST UP!
PZ
@Brooklyn B
My bad bro..you just get on my nerves always tryin to check me when you ain't really sayin nothin. I ain't bout to "e-battle" you today about these same things we talk about everyday.
Holla at me when you get that myspace up though...and I'll holla at you when we up in Brooklyn.
SHALOM!
PZ
See there, Remy shouldn't have put up that mixtape cover.
Let her go down for this, then I bet you she'll be callin on Jesus. Whatever it takes....her soul is worth it.
I'm out!
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 9:40 AM
Damn PZ,
So I guess U feel like Pac deserved what he got 4 the Makaveli album 2, huh?
The dumbest shit on this site is you constantly sayin "BROOKLYN STAND UP" and not ever speaking up on what you stand for, all while danglin' on my nuts while I'm reppin my King.
I believe blasphemy don't go unchecked. Do you homeboy... while I carry my cross.
Sit back down..BROOKLYN.
JESUS LIVES!
PZ
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 9:57 AM
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PZ
what the fuck was blasphemist about a figgin' picture?
a drawing, you prolly believe that your moms would break her back if you really stepped on a crack retard
and you want me to post what i believe
fine mutha fucka
THE BLACKMAN IS GOD!!!!
carrry that on your back
Damn PZ,
So I guess U feel like Pac deserved what he got 4 the Makaveli album 2, huh?
Posted by: Dre Guevara at July 16, 2007 10:01 AM
If blasphemy don't go unchecked, how come nothing happened to me . . . oh yeah Carmen fucking Jay Z and writing a book about it. Oh well, you win some you lose some
Damn PZ,
So I guess U feel like Pac deserved what he got 4 the Makaveli album 2, huh?
Posted by: Dre Guevara at July 16, 2007 10:01 AM
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I never said that, and I never said that Remy deserved it. I pray for people's repentance, not their destruction.
Vengeance is the Lords...not mine.
I'm just sayin....people think it's a game, and like it ain't nothin to be concerned with by doing something like that. What I'm sayin is when you do it, then it happens like that....don't be surprised. That's my point, yet people still blind to it and the world would rather believe in the theory of "coincidence" than the idea of accountability.
I will continue to pray for change.
JESUS LIVES!
PZ
Just because poeple are starting to get tired of 50 and his usual theatrics does not make you a hater. Were folks Ja haters when they chose to go in another direction????? 50 is basically becoming what he was supposedly so against (singing on every hook, starting beefs he won't finish, walking around with his shirt like some greased up homo) and basically became that. Everyone sees it now. It's just some of you die hards won't realize it. and to be honest that's ok too. Reality will set in. Everyone's "lil day" comes....and his appears to be coming at a record pace. When have you known 50 to keep pushing a "supposed great album" back. I can refresh your memory. It was around the time of the "massacre" trash ass album that even he admits was trash....lol He doesn't have the Game or Dre to blame this time around should this album do just as bad on it's opening week. and for those dropping first week numbers for him 600K would be awful for him. That would be 50K more than T.I. opening week. Not a good look for the guy who "runs NY"....lmao He wants to release it world wide so the numbers look sick! Don't you Gunit groupies get it. He doesn't give a fuck if some kid in Germany gets the same time as a kid on Fulton gets it. He just wants the soundscan number to be high. So when you see 900K in the first week "worldwide" you'll be like "oh shit, I got to go and cop that". Oh and don't hate on SOHH. Maybe SOHH is the only site that refuses to dick ride!!!
Second it should not matter how old you are in the rap game, just stay relavent. The minute you feel as your not.....leave and don't return. That looks worst then coming out and straight flopping!
As music and artist matures...so does the fan. Don't cut folks out because their over 25. We all have to grow, remember that. Almost everyone that controls their piece of the music industry (and I mean really controls the music industry) is well over 35.
Russell Simmons--Lyor Cohen--Kevin Liles--Jay-Z--L.A. Reid--J. Prince--Hollywood (Slip and Slide)--Jermaine Dupri--Suge (at one time)--Clive Davi
You can see where I'm going with this.
and you want me to post what i believe
fine mutha fucka
THE BLACKMAN IS GOD!!!!
carrry that on your back
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 10:04 AM
Church!
I will continue to pray for change.
JESUS LIVES!
PZ
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 10:08 AM
Fuck change I'm praying for dollars, millions nigga!!
@Brooklyn B
My bad bro..you just get on my nerves always tryin to check me when you ain't really sayin nothin. I ain't bout to "e-battle" you today about these same things we talk about everyday.
Holla at me when you get that myspace up though...and I'll holla at you when we up in Brooklyn.
SHALOM!
PZ
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 10:01 AM
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Im saying, this is a picture a drawing of her. kanye, nas, maddona, actors, famous artist all draw or protrayed the like ness (or there like ness) of the son of god, its called freedom of expression.
and you keep comin' on her pushin' your thoughts and dont expect a response.
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Hell Rell-what does "eblivarated" mean?
THE BLACKMAN IS GOD!!!!
carrry that on your back
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 10:04 AM
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Then GET OFF THE DAMN COMPUTER and make change fool! You god...what you sittin at work for dependin on a check from another man for????? Go clean up Brooklyn.
Like I said...get your myspace up, holla at me...and I'll holla at you when we in Brooklyn.
@Dre
This weekend, I was thinking about when you said last week that man creates knowledge. But isn't knowledge something that is discovered and gained...not created??? If not..why do we "seek" something that is not there.
Also...as I was thinking about it, and after reading up more on Scientology....what is the difference in 5% and scientology?
Hell Rell-what does "eblivarated" mean?
Posted by: yupyup at July 16, 2007 10:12 AM
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you dumb muvafucka that means when you be ebliverating niggas, ebliverated is AFTER i done done it.
go cop my abum
You can see where I'm going with this.
Posted by: Boston George at July 16, 2007 10:09 AM
No, I can't see a God damn thang!
Also...as I was thinking about it, and after reading up more on Scientology....what is the difference in 5% and scientology?
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 10:15 AM
We eat pork!
Then GET OFF THE DAMN COMPUTER and make change fool! You god...what you sittin at work for dependin on a check from another man for????? Go clean up Brooklyn.
Like I said...get your myspace up, holla at me...and I'll holla at you when we in Brooklyn.
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like i said you be on some dumb narrow minded shit.
keep looking to go to heaven when you die, and i'll continue makin' mines on earth
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
No, I can't see a God damn thang!
Posted by: Stevie Wonder at July 16, 2007 10:17 AM
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aight stevie thats blasphemy and that shit don't go unchecked!
*SMH*
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
The dumbest shit on this site . . .
JESUS LIVES!
PZ
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 9:57 AM
Damn, I see yall got Ace Ventura's panties in bunch mad early
that was the most ignorant 8 minutes of my life
aight stevie thats blasphemy and that shit don't go unchecked!
*SMH*
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 10:22 AM
How is that blasphemy? I'm blind!!! I can't see shit!
Nigga I got herpes and I wear beads, I'm already living in hell!!
like i said you be on some dumb narrow minded shit.
keep looking to go to heaven when you die, and i'll continue makin' mines on earth
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Posted by: Brooklyn b at July 16, 2007 10:20 AM
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And you sit around thinking that somebody like me ain't workin to bring heaven to earth and you confused.
I'm down here grinding for change...you do the same and maybe we'll meet halfway. Maybe in BROOKLYN!!! lol
But hurry up...get off the block, the whole world needs change and you takin too long up there.
@Triple OG...what up DJ Bazerk. lol
@Boston George
I don't know of any black man in the music business who runs anything. Jay-Z, Russell Simmons, Kevin "House Nigger" Liles and the rest are merely the gateways through which corporate America exploits black imagery. Their co-sign is required to dupe the likes of you.
They're not even after OUR dollars because we're so fickle. All they need is the illusion that what they put forth originated in the "hood" and is therefore "cool" to get the money from the white kids fascinated with "black culture."
Rap once mirrored what was happening in the streets but now the streets reflect what is happening in rap and none of the black people you mentioned control that. Rather, they are handsomely rewarded for aiding and abetting in the total exploitation of our community by those who care nothing about us.
I don't hate rap because I've done worse but at least I was aware of what I was doing. I'm sick of NIGGERS acting as if hip hop is all we have when it has so little to do with us anymore.
Black music is controlled by, Doug Morris, Jimmy Iovine, Edgar Bronfman, Lyor Cohen, Clive Davis, Tommy Mottola, etc. All white and most sexual deviants. The negroes you mentioned will do a jig and shuffle their feet for 30 pieces of silver and people like you desperate for heroes embrace them and uphold them.
Take off your bandana, uptowns, throwbacks George. While you're at it pull your pants up and take off those sunglasses at night.
Time for you to grow up too and find another hustle.
Remy=Blasphemy... I know others were crucified but clearly her intent was to put herself in the same shoes as Christ himself. So maybe she'll really feel what it's like to be publicly humiliated. But to me it's a publicity stunt to follow her mixtape cover, which I believe will not work in her favor. Cops wasn't even looking for her as the prime suspect. People stoop to whatever for attention these days, that's when you know your soul has been exchanged for dollars and fame. Ne way Hell Rell is not that nice, and no one is checking for him.
And you sit around thinking that somebody like me ain't workin to bring heaven to earth and you confused.
I'm down here grinding for change
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 10:27 AM
The people don't want enlightenment. They love ignorance, that's a Fact. When so-called "positive" rappers come out, people don't buy them, mainly because they suck and you can't move to it." Black People dance. Having said that, if all rap was preaching, it would suck too. Just because you can't feel a song doesn't make it trash. "Wipe Me Down" is a dope ass track. Your cuz will sell big talking about what he is becuz people want that. If you want to find a concious rapper, just go to any loading dock, that's where they're working.
Posted by: T from ATL at July 16, 2007 9:12 AM
Y'all act like it would kill U 2 listen 2 some Common, Talib Kweli or any other MC who's conscious every now & then, honestly, all of this "Wipe Me Down" & "Ay Bay Bay" business is redundant, call me a hater, b/c I know most of U will, but y'all say the same thing about how positive rappers suck & act as if that is justification. Last time I checked, we as a people were 2 fuckin' broke 2 party like rockstars, we have so many problems going on in "the hood" Black on Black crime, poor education, police brutality, AIDS, poor healthcare, drugs, racism, yet these issues R not addressed in songs.
I can't believe some of y'all work so hard 2 be so stupid
My post from the SOHH Ya Heard blog:
As for Remy, she goin to hell for that CD cover unless she get on her knees and repent. God don't like ugly. I see bad things in her future.
Posted by: Bird at July 11, 2007 11:43 AM
I don't get on the blog and preach like my boy PZ, but I am a Christian and I knew Remy was going down and it took less than a week. Some things are just taking it too far. Remy is no Jesus Christ as she was referring to herself. That was blasphemy of the highest order.
I don't expect anyone to understand. It comes from seeing it over and over again that you finally get the picture about how the Lord works and Satan for that matter. God provided some level of protection for Remy because her friend is not dead despite being shot twice at close range, but Remy is gonna have a few years in prison to take stock of her life. Hopefully she'll come out a better person. In the mean time her children will have to live without here.
I don't expect anyone to understand. It comes from seeing it over and over again that you finally get the picture about how the Lord works and Satan for that matter. God provided some level of protection for Remy because her friend is not dead despite being shot twice at close range, but Remy is gonna have a few years in prison to take stock of her life. Hopefully she'll come out a better person. In the mean time her children will have to live without here.
Posted by: Bird at July 16, 2007 10:32 AM
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Thanks for posting Bird. I know I get overtly excited...and get defensive too much when it comes to parrots tryin to mock what I'm sayin.
So thank you for being that balance.
And you sit around thinking that somebody like me ain't workin to bring heaven to earth and you confused.
I'm down here grinding for change...you do the same and maybe we'll meet halfway. Maybe in BROOKLYN!!! lol
But hurry up...get off the block, the whole world needs change and you takin too long up there.
@Triple OG...what up DJ Bazerk. lol
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 10:27 AM
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if you check any and every post you ever post YOU are the one telling someone what there doing. no one assumes what your doing or not doing, you get on here and wanna say "get of the block"? what the fuck are you talking about im at work?
there other things ouside of brooklyn, i dont live in brooklyn no more.
what changes are you making, who are you?
your so quick to push your christianity propaganda on here for shit that have nothing to do with god, christ, the holy sprit or whatever god you praise.
no one pushes nothing on here except a different form of hip hop or there hate on certain artist.
dre is 5 percenter but you really wouldnt know unless you click his page, your the only one on here that points fingers, judge and assume that someone is NOT doing something with there life or you know more about it then them.
get your head out your ass and see that the world is more then just whats in king james version of the bible
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Tupac was the prototype
-nimrod aka clown of the year
OK AFTER A COMMENT LIKE THAT NOW I OVERSTAND YOUR NAME.
SHALOM
don't get on the blog and preach like my boy PZ, but I am a Christian and I knew Remy was going down and it took less than a week. Some things are just taking it too far. Remy is no Jesus Christ as she was referring to herself. That was blasphemy of the highest order.
I don't expect anyone to understand. It comes from seeing it over and over again that you finally get the picture about how the Lord works and Satan for that matter. God provided some level of protection for Remy because her friend is not dead despite being shot twice at close range, but Remy is gonna have a few years in prison to take stock of her life. Hopefully she'll come out a better person. In the mean time her children will have to live without here.
Posted by: Bird at July 16, 2007 10:32 AM
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show me where she posed, or painted that mixtape cover, wayne got a cover of him eating jayz brains does that make wayne a friggin cannibal. give me a break. so i guess something gonna happen to kanye soon huh cause his mixtape cover on hiphopdx have him with thorns and the whole nine
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
@Tool On Deck
Do you even know prototype means? Prior to Tupac did anyone see all these shirtless tatoo'd artists? Can't you see how Tupac's popularity affected the generation behind him. Look around or maybe you should just look in the mirror. It's not a coincidence that excessive tatoos became style after Pac. He IS the prototype and that's a nice way of saying the obvious.
Hell Rell-what does "eblivarated" mean?
Posted by: yupyup at July 16, 2007 10:12 AM
LMAO!!
get your head out your ass and see that the world is more then just whats in king james version of the bible
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Posted by: Brooklyn b at July 16, 2007 10:36 AM
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It's your misconception that Christians just sit around and look at the sky which is off base.
My response to you about "get off the block"...you God right...then why you earnin your money from another man?
It may sound sarcastic...but it's a straight up question. I don't come on pushing nothing, I state my beliefs when the opportunity affords itsel..and then you chirp up like a lil bird to create the tension and debate. I NEVER come on pushing nothing...I just don't back down from you clowns. And call that judging or whatever you want homeboy, but I call it like I see it.
You get MOST defensive when I call you on NOT DOING NOTHING. My point is..if you not doin nothin, then you are part of the problem. And if you a "god"...how can you be working against yourself? Anyway...like I said...I ain't gonna debate this stuff.
Like Bird said, I can't expect you to understand. Regarding Dre.....don't bring my discussions with that man up when me and you are talking, that man got's my respect. Me and him have been through all this for a long time on the blog. I was askin that man serious questions that came up over the weekend to hear his side..I wasn't talkin to you.
So if me being me bothers you...then worry about what you need to do to do you. I ain't gonna debate with you how I need to do me, I don't come on here to do that...but when you constantly chirpin in like a lil child at dinner when I'm talkin to grown folks, expect me to address you. So check it...look back and tell me where I just come on pointin at anybody...and realize, the best way to find that is to look in the mirror.
If the shoe fits, put it on and kick yaself in the butt with it.
@Dre..I wasn't tryin to disrespect..you know that. I could holla at you on email if that'd be better.
And @Brooklyn B...if you really wanna talk thangs with me let me know and I'll email you too. You the one for the lil public display of nonsense..that ain't me. Keep your ignorance to yourself and dont' address me with it, and then I won't ball the BS up and throw it back to you. Cuz I don't want it.
Yoooo Yoooo!
Peas to the real, already.
I see Reck is hatin again. This bitch should change her name to SOHH HATERISH, real talk.
That shits a BANGER, hes got a CONTORTIONIST in that shit, and how he harasses about his baby's moms n shit. That shits dope. The song is about money ya dumb bitch, what you want some jesus walks, diamonds are forever, Kanghey video? Fuck Outta here bitch.
1 hunned.
50 is a sell-out. When is the last time you heard him make something uplifting for his community. Now that KRS-ONE video is what real hip-hop is about.
Posted by: Nimrod at July 16, 2007 10:44 AM
Do you even know prototype means?
^^^^
just b/c u just went and googled up a word don't make u know what ur talking about.
Prior to Tupac did anyone see all these shirtless tatoo'd artists?
^^^^^
Last i checked being "tatoo'd" up was a hood thang (atleast where i'm from) and how do u even know that they were pac fans? Go to there hoods and see all the men, women, and kids that are tatted up that are not rappers. Oh, i geuss PAC started that and made them want to do that too?!! Or better yet i'll put that blame on D4Ls new single tat tat tatted up!
Try using logic instead of words that you heard on the history channel next time folk.
SHALOM
It's funny how the double standards on this site never end....TI does 487K his first week and that's great...but if 50 does 50 K more than that..then it's not good enough...
Jay had his best opening week numbers on kingdom come yet people downplay the album like it was not good...I guess cause no one was pop lock and dropping on the album...
50 put out a dman good record where he is not harmonizing on the hook and people still find a reason to hate..they talk about the video....
did any of yall think that maybe since sales are down niggas are cutting corners so that they can recoup more?? if you spend less on a video then it's more profit in your pocket.....learn the bussiness end of things before your make certain comments...
all in all..if yall can sit there and listen to TI say he is the king and no one step up to take his title...then why is it such a hard pill to swallow when 50 says he runds NY...
just like someone said earlier...he is the biggest star in rap right now...hate him or love him..
Y'all act like it would kill U 2 listen 2 some Common, Talib Kweli or any other MC who's conscious every now & then. Last time I checked, we as a people were 2 fuckin' broke 2 party like rockstars, we have so many problems going on in "the hood" Black on Black crime, poor education, police brutality, AIDS, poor healthcare, drugs, racism, yet these issues R not addressed in songs.
Posted by: Dre Guevara at July 16, 2007 10:31 AM
@ Dre Guevara:
Black People partied during Slavery, the Civil Rights Movement, and Today. Dancing and Celebrating is part our our African heritage. If you want to walk around angry all the time, be my guest. It won't change anything. I like Boosie, I like Common. It's possible to like both. I don't like a lot of "concious" rap because the production sucks on a lot of it. Spitting 88 bars over the "Shook Ones' beat wont work here. You all are looking for something from ENTERTAINERS they can't provide. If you want to enlighten your hood, DO IT. Stop looking for Russel or Com to do it for you. Common and Talib are signed to record deals and trying to sell just like Boosie and Wayne. The industry is the industry.
show me where she posed, or painted that mixtape cover, wayne got a cover of him eating jayz brains does that make wayne a friggin cannibal. give me a break. so i guess something gonna happen to kanye soon huh cause his mixtape cover on hiphopdx have him with thorns and the whole nine
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 10:43 AM
Ya know, the image wasn't the worst thing. She referred to herself as Jesus Christ albeit with an ignorant ghetto spelling. That is blasphemy. As someone said last week, Jesus was not the only person to ever be crusified. I am not aware that Kanye referred to himself as Jesus and as a matter of fact he put out a gospel rap that was well received. I see good things in his future.
Anyway I don't like to discuss religion too much on blogs because each person's spiritual walk is a personal matter.
KRS-ONE video is what real hip-hop is about.
Posted by: O.B.G. at July 16, 2007 10:53 AM
^^^^^
The 80's wont be back until 2080 homie! that's 73yrs and when they do come back they be nothing like ur KRS 80's so (in the words of Ice Cube)L.I.G. it folk!
SHALOM
@Dre
This weekend, I was thinking about when you said last week that man creates knowledge. But isn't knowledge something that is discovered and gained...not created??? If not..why do we "seek" something that is not there.
Also...as I was thinking about it, and after reading up more on Scientology....what is the difference in 5% and scientology?
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 10:15 AM
I said that 2 create something from nothing, is the manifestation of knowledge, knowledge is something that is also gained, yet we teach that Knowledge is the basic foundation of all things in existence, like man is the foundation of his family & the sun is the foundation of the solar system.
Honestly, I think Scientology is a joke.
@Tool On Deck
I guess your idea of "logic" is name calling. LOL! Am I supposed to sound ignorant to make you feel comfortable? You're one of those people who've bought into the concept wherever black people live is the hood. Poor kid. You need help and a hug. LOL!
Tattoo's have historically been part of an outlaw culture. Most black men who served time in prison or the military would get one or two. Most women with tats tended to be whores, strippers or women of ill repute. Go get your dictionary so you can keep up today. Class is in session moron. I'm gonna learn ya whether ya like it or not. LOL!
I'm not going to go further because I'm really casting my pearls before swine with you. Hopefully someone else will see this because I know you're a waste of time.
Shalom? Bet you think that's some cool shit to say... Grow up lil boy.
@T from ATL
You are ignorant as fuck cuz. You sound like one of these sell-out ass rappers who go mainstream and forget about their people. I don't give a fuck who likes to dance, we have a responsibility to uplift and preserve our hip-hop nation. We should not be cooning and promoting ignorance just to make a buck.
I guess cause no one was pop lock and dropping on the album...
^^^^
But they were "Shawty show me what u got lil mama! Now wave! Wave! Wave!!!" Now those are some real lyrics right there B!
SHALOM
Honestly, I think Scientology is a joke.
Posted by: Dre Guevara at July 16, 2007 11:01 AM
Fuck you buddy!!
But they were "Shawty show me what u got lil mama! Now wave! Wave! Wave!!!" Now those are some real lyrics right there B!
SHALOM
Posted by: Tool on Deck at July 16, 2007 11:03 AM
I know that's why I had the BEST selling album in 2006
It's the ROC
The 80's wont be back until 2080 homie! that's 73yrs and when they do come back they be nothing like ur KRS 80's so (in the words of Ice Cube)L.I.G. it folk!
SHALOM
Posted by: Tool on Deck at July 16, 2007 11:00 AM
co-sign and tell niggas that I'm not coming back from the dead
@ O.B.G.
You preaching brothas are full of shit, still thinking good-sounding rhetoric equals action. O.K. Elijah, what are YOU doing personally to uplift your hood and the hip-hop nation?
Sell-out rapper? Yeah, because NO ONE ever signs a record deal hoping NOT to sell records.........
imma answer every dumb shit you just posted.......
It's your misconception that Christians just sit around and look at the sky which is off base.
My response to you about "get off the block"...you God right...then why you earnin your money from another man?
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so if jesus was "god" or "is god" then why his father had to work as a carpenter? why jesus and come down here and end hunger and oppression.
i can ask the same dumb questions....grow up
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It may sound sarcastic...but it's a straight up question. I don't come on pushing nothing, I state my beliefs when the opportunity affords itsel..and then you chirp up like a lil bird to create the tension and debate. I NEVER come on pushing nothing...I just don't back down from you clowns. And call that judging or whatever you want homeboy, but I call it like I see it.
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you post shit thats going on in Texas on a NY blog site? got to sohh dirty with that shit. you say you state your beliefs when the opportunity affords itself, so you come on and criticizes every and anything that goes against what YOU feel is right, but IM a parrot when i comment on your dumb shit. i do the SAME thing you do nothing difference but your quick to comment on what i do and dont realize you do the SAME THING.........grow up
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You get MOST defensive when I call you on NOT DOING NOTHING. My point is..if you not doin nothin, then you are part of the problem. And if you a "god"...how can you be working against yourself? Anyway...like I said...I ain't gonna debate this stuff.
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what you saying is DUMB i didnt get mad because you saying im not doing nothing, i know what im doing and what im not doing i leave all that ASSUMING and shit to you, your good at it.
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Like Bird said, I can't expect you to understand. Regarding Dre.....don't bring my discussions with that man up when me and you are talking, that man got's my respect. Me and him have been through all this for a long time on the blog. I was askin that man serious questions that came up over the weekend to hear his side..I wasn't talkin to you.
So if me being me bothers you...then worry about what you need to do to do you. I ain't gonna debate with you how I need to do me, I don't come on here to do that...but when you constantly chirpin in like a lil child at dinner when I'm talkin to grown folks, expect me to address you. So check it...look back and tell me where I just come on pointin at anybody...and realize, the best way to find that is to look in the mirror.
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and like i said look in the mirror??? dude for real for real i can compare me and your shit and you would see how similar that shit is so while you commenting on me saying brooklyn stand up and your saying christ live its the same shit. if anything I AM YOUR MIRROR
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Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 10:50 AM
Brooklyn Stand Up!!!
We should not be cooning and promoting ignorance just to make a buck.
Posted by: O.B.G. at July 16, 2007 11:02 AM
Why you got to be talking about my new Movie like that?
@Tool On Deck
I bet you're one of those people always bragging about the murder rate in your town. You're proud of stuff like that aren't you? Tell the truth. I know your type. You learn about the streets from music, movies and magazines. You live your life as if you're in a video. Work you job to make it rain on payday. Let's not forget the grill with the bad breath that comes with it. Oh, you're gangsta. I'm shaking in my shoes typing this. You probably got some nasty looking dreads too. LMAO!
It may sound sarcastic...but it's a straight up question. I don't come on pushing nothing, I state my beliefs when the opportunity affords itsel..and then you chirp up like a lil bird to create the tension and debate. I NEVER come on pushing nothing...
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 10:50 AM
You probably got some nasty looking dreads too. LMAO!
Posted by: Nimrod at July 16, 2007 11:11 AM
We all do, even tho it's 110 degrees almost everyday
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 10:50 AM
Brooklyn Stand Up!!!
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 11:09 AM
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You forgot to upper case it.
Like I said...you chirp up everytime I say something yet offer no alternative. Everytime I speak what I believe, it is in opposition to an opposite belief. I don't allow one sided foolishness to go on. If you feel what I speak is foolishness, that's cool. At least when I speak it, the people have "two foolishnesses" to choose from. Then my job is done.
But here you go...
(in a parrot voice)..
AAAWWWCCKKK!!!! that gotta be 1 of the dumbiest shit i ever heard of. AAAWWWCCKKK!!!!
so this shit happen over a figgin' drawing of a mixtape cover,
AAAWWWCCKKK!!!!
GTFOH
AAAWWWCCKKK!!!!
shesus kryst, you be on some other shit
AAAWWWCCKKK!!!!
Them "AAAWWWCCKKKs" was that parrot noise. You offered nothing but just jumped at my belief. If you don't believe it..let it go, unless you are accountable to a higher (or lower) power which says you have a responsibility to dispute the truths I speak. Wait...that's right, until you understand the workings of Satan...that one is "whoooosh"..over the top.
SHALOM!
PZ
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 10:50 AM
Posted by: WHAT A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT!! at July 16, 2007 11:13 AM
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Just be you Brian....you ain't gotta front on how you feel...just be you.
Ya know, the image wasn't the worst thing. She referred to herself as Jesus Christ albeit with an ignorant ghetto spelling. That is blasphemy. As someone said last week, Jesus was not the only person to ever be crusified. I am not aware that Kanye referred to himself as Jesus and as a matter of fact he put out a gospel rap that was well received. I see good things in his future.
Anyway I don't like to discuss religion too much on blogs because each person's spiritual walk is a personal matter.
Posted by: Bird at July 16, 2007 10:58 AM
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theres a BUNCH of mexicans with the name jesus
she spelled it SHE-sus Kryst no diferent then jay saying Jay-HOVah
or a chick spelling her name erika instead of erica.
so the play jesus christ superstar or the t-shirst that say jesus is my homeboy is what?
i never saw so many GROWN people scared of a image
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
never saw so many GROWN people scared of a image
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 11:18 AM
I don't get it either, my nigga!
Shalom? Bet you think that's some cool shit to say... Grow up lil boy.
Posted by: Nimrod at July 16, 2007 11:02 AM
Co-sign
Just be you Brian....you ain't gotta front on how you feel...just be you.
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 11:17 AM
@Lt. Frank Drebin (naked gun movies) aka PZ
I didn't post that. It's a shame you have to put my goverment name out there just because Brooklyn b is gettin in that ass (no homo).
We can see you sweating Andy
You forgot to upper case it.
Like I said...you chirp up everytime I say something yet offer no alternative. Everytime I speak what I believe, it is in opposition to an opposite belief. I don't allow one sided foolishness to go on. If you feel what I speak is foolishness, that's cool. At least when I speak it, the people have "two foolishnesses" to choose from. Then my job is done.
But here you go...
(in a parrot voice)..
AAAWWWCCKKK!!!! that gotta be 1 of the dumbiest shit i ever heard of. AAAWWWCCKKK!!!!
so this shit happen over a figgin' drawing of a mixtape cover,
AAAWWWCCKKK!!!!
GTFOH
AAAWWWCCKKK!!!!
shesus kryst, you be on some other shit
AAAWWWCCKKK!!!!
Them "AAAWWWCCKKKs" was that parrot noise. You offered nothing but just jumped at my belief. If you don't believe it..let it go, unless you are accountable to a higher (or lower) power which says you have a responsibility to dispute the truths I speak. Wait...that's right, until you understand the workings of Satan...that one is "whoooosh"..over the top.
SHALOM!
PZ
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 11:16 AM
its funny you always result to kid shit when you run outta shit to say.
learn something and you wont be so limited
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Yall are all fuckin boring. Can we talk about music, or lyrics, or whats hot for once instead of the ongoing battle of good and evil / crusades in this bitch. Its getting old.
I know that's why I had the BEST selling album in 2006
It's the ROC
Posted by: Jay Z at July 16, 2007 11:05 AM
^^
Actually T.I. did. And buying up 500K of your own shit and spending 20mil on marketing wasnt a good look, Old Head.
its funny you always result to kid shit when you run outta shit to say.
learn something and you wont be so limited
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 11:24 AM
co-sign
first the cursing . . .*smh*
He's putting people personal information out there (a bitch move) and now he's name calling, very childish.
I expect more from a Christian! Now go repent!!!
i never saw so many GROWN people scared of a image
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 11:18 AM
As long as that latin dude named Jesus don't claim to be the savior he's straight.
We could go on all day about this, but I don't play with people's spirituality too heavy. Do you baby boy. You will never convince me to stop doing me, so this is a fruitless discussion for the time being.
Actually T.I. did. And buying up 500K of your own shit and spending 20mil on marketing wasnt a good look, Old Head.
Posted by: EReal at July 16, 2007 11:28 AM
Eat a g-unit dick because this rap shit is over for them niggas
As long as that latin dude named Jesus don't claim to be the savior he's straight.
Posted by: Bird at July 16, 2007 11:31 AM
When did I claim to be yall niggaz savior?
When did I claim to be yall niggaz savior?
Posted by: Remy Ma at July 16, 2007 11:35 AM
My bad chica. I actually heard you said you were the savior of New York on THIS blog weeks before that mixtape came out. I didn't think anything of it until I heard you were calling yourself Shesus Khrist and then came out with that CD cover. I will not admit that all this could be an SOHH conspiracy against you.
We could go on all day about this, but I don't play with people's spirituality too heavy. Do you baby boy. You will never convince me to stop doing me, so this is a fruitless discussion for the time being.
Posted by: Bird at July 16, 2007 11:31 AM
I aint trying to convince you to do shit, i aint say stop reading or dont go here or there i said how can i PAINTING of remy on the cross and the name thats used have NO "J" in it so its not saying jesus. she DIDNT have thornes and was smiling, she aint have blood runin from her feet and hands. but she mimicing jesus?
you said as long as the latin brother dont CLAIM to be the savior, when did remy say she was the savior? the BX savior? shit jay said he's hip hops savior.
like i said i gives to shit who u pray too, thats not what i was speaking on i was speaking on the association of remy shooting some one to a picture that was drawn so do the artist get damned for it. i mean come one yous a grown women so (and not saying its right) but guns, shooting, and drugs is a part of hip hop now like apple pie is american or how ever the saying goes, but to say if she DIDNT have that cover she wouldnt be going through this is dumb
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Eat a g-unit dick because this rap shit is over for them niggas
Posted by: Jay Z at July 16, 2007 11:32 AM
^^
And that has to do with what in my comment you ignorant faggot. Why you got dicks on your mind homo? Oh wait, cause Larry Johnson is your bitch. Fuck outta here.
Oh and BTW, who has the hottest track in NY right now? Hmmm... ya fuckin loser.
To anyone who wants to help me out with some seious shit, feel free.
So, my Myspace been actin up lately. Therefore, I wasnt able to read all my bulletins stop. So I couldnt repost important messages. So I started doing the math, and I got at least 50 yrs of bad luck comin my way, for no reposting in less than 10 mins.
PZ: since u into religion, should I take it that serious, u also got Myspace, so u should know what im talkin about... anyway, what u think
PEACE
Oh and BTW, who has the hottest track in NY right now? Hmmm... ya fuckin loser.
Posted by: EReal at July 16, 2007 11:40 AM
DEEZ NUTTZ
@Lt. Frank Drebin (naked gun movies) aka PZ
I didn't post that. It's a shame you have to put my goverment name out there just because Brooklyn b is gettin in that ass (no homo).
We can see you sweating Andy
Posted by: TRIPLE OG STAN at July 16, 2007 11:24 AM
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See...you tellin on yourself just like you been doin, and not even knowin. Ain't nobody know I was talkin to you.
That's cuz you guilty, you took the name TRIPLE OG STAN cuz that's them games you like to play. All the little posts under the other names...we know that's you. You can't play me homeboy, when you gonna learn??
@Brooklyn
Result to kid stuff? naw man..I'm showin you your actions, breakin it down in the most simplist of ways so you can hopefully see it. That's what you do...just like a parrot.
And believe me when I tell you this, I'm far from a dumb dumb. You wanna talk about reading a book....I got my knowledge of my book, you got your knowledge of all your propoganda as well. But we can talk history, nature, science...anything you want to outside of our normal discussions...and it's whatever.
I done told you about tryin me....I can walk the dog on any topic you wanna talk about.
Trust when I tell you...I ain't get to where I am by being a dumb dumb. Ain't but four people across the world in my career field who make more than me...so God is blessing a saint, believe me when I tell ya. All glory to God!
And how do I know that information you might ask? Check the signature block...you got the email.
I usually dont get involved arguing with pz, but u on some dumb shit today... So you saying god made her try to kill some1 over that cover? anyway, what was that parrot shit
P.S: u need god in yo life
Since Music is my Savior will bad things happen to me?
@Brooklyn
Result to kid stuff? naw man..I'm showin you your actions, breakin it down in the most simplist of ways so you can hopefully see it. That's what you do...just like a parrot.
And believe me when I tell you this, I'm far from a dumb dumb. You wanna talk about reading a book....I got my knowledge of my book, you got your knowledge of all your propoganda as well. But we can talk history, nature, science...anything you want to outside of our normal discussions...and it's whatever.
I done told you about tryin me....I can walk the dog on any topic you wanna talk about.
Trust when I tell you...I ain't get to where I am by being a dumb dumb. Ain't but four people across the world in my career field who make more than me...so God is blessing a saint, believe me when I tell ya. All glory to God!
And how do I know that information you might ask? Check the signature block...you got the email.
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 11:46 AM
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i'll ask you the same thing i asked bird
what was the association with the shooting and that mixtape cover?
she was on a cross with NO thorns....didnt jesus have thornes
she aint say she was jesus or non of that.
bird wanna say and i forgot to mention the gospel song he had jesus walk had curse words in it and he said nigga a bunch of times.........unless thats cool in gospel music now?
mexicans run around all day and name there kids jesus
whats the difference
remy said shes the BX savior
hov said he's hip hop savior
and mims said music is his
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
@Lt. Frank Drebin (naked gun movies) aka PZ
I didn't post that. It's a shame you have to put my goverment name out there just because Brooklyn b is gettin in that ass (no homo).
We can see you sweating Andy
Posted by: TRIPLE OG STAN at July 16, 2007 11:24 AM
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See...you tellin on yourself just like you been doin, and not even knowin. Ain't nobody know I was talkin to you.
That's cuz you guilty, you took the name TRIPLE OG STAN cuz that's them games you like to play. All the little posts under the other names...we know that's you. You can't play me homeboy, when you gonna learn??
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 11:46 AM
Fuck everyone else . . . YOU put my name out there so I'm addressing YOU on that bitch move, bitch. The reason why I'm taking offense is because I come back from the bathroom and see my goverment name on the blog. Just because you have your personal information out there, doesn't mean everyone else wants there's to be known.
Secondly you don't know shit. One week your saying it X-facta doing all the Stanning then a week later your saying it's Xcl..bkdude (whatever his name is)
Frankly, I think there is nothing worse than being accused for something your not guilty of doing!!!
This a fucking blog!!! Not Church but a blog that me an others come on to talk shit everyday while at work.
There are more important issues in the world you should be addressing since you have taken on the "we are the world" title.
You’re the biggest critic on here, any time we say anything that doesn't agree with you or your bible you make it your mission to be Christ's spokesman. I already know your going to respond by saying you connect with people by using the blog . . .who cares on how many people you claim to have connected with outside of the blog!! That's good, now go talk that Jesus shit with them, not us!! My point is there are billions of people in the world to talk religion with. It's like your beating a dead horse.
Then you start throwing hissy fits and say "I speak the truth, that's why everyone is always attacking me".
No niggas attack you because WE come in here to bust it up about hip hop and current events (sometimes religion, but not every fucking day).
You seriously need a life outside of this blog.
I usually dont get involved arguing with pz, but u on some dumb shit today... So you saying god made her try to kill some1 over that cover? anyway, what was that parrot shit
P.S: u need god in yo life
Posted by: ONE at July 16, 2007 11:47 AM
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No..I didn't not say that God made her. Don't put words in my mouth.
Check this...to me, everything in existence is either CAUSED by God, or ALLOWED by God.
Check the book of Job. Job was the most righteous man alive, and yet God allowed satan to come test him. His own wife told Job to "curse God" for what he was going through, and he wouldn't. God ALLOWED the roof to fall in on Jobs family and kill them all. Did he cause it? NO. Did he allow it? YES. You see...satan had to ask permission too.
My point is that God allowed it to happen. When people begin to understand that it is not a battle of the flesh, but rather one in spirit...and it's good vs evil...YEP..just like that.
So she is on that cover claimin to be "shesus", mocking the very nature of Jesus.
Now if guilty, Remy will be callin on the name of Jesus from prison...apologizing and repenting. All while no longer being a factor in furthering the nonsense she is doing here on the streets.
The lady shot will live.
What was meant for bad can and will be used for good.
why is it only like 5 people responding to each other? you niggas need to go to oprah. if you don't like rap or the street shit then don't come to hip hop blogs and listen to rap! buy some gospel music. and nimrod sound like he too old to be accepted as "cool" or maybe u just a lame. stop judging others actions and go to church biatch!
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 11:57 AM
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If you CAN NOT see the mockery in that, then you are blinded or really in denial reaching hard to try and make a point.
There is no comparison to women naming their kids Jesus in rememberance and in honor of the Lord, and calling yourself "Shesus" with a mocking picture in hopes to create a buzz for yourself.
If you can't see that...I can't explain it.
Poor Nimrod....lol I almost didn't respond to this, but thought I have 5 mins to spare why not. Are you a member of the Klan or something? you drop the n-bomb as if you were working a slave trade or something??? Are you totally against Blacks that are doing well at their positions?? They may not be owners of the companies they work for, but they all are pretty sucessful at thier postions. (speaking of ownership, do you own anything???)
You're talking shit about the Black Execs I mention, but appear to be immortalizing the white Execs. Please explain this to me??? "They will do a jig for 30 pieces"....lol Are you serious??? Jimmy,Tommy and Edgar may want to get their tap shoes out of the closet, (where you've been apparently) because we all have to answer to someone. Shareholders are the people who run even the the white execs that you mentioned. If they wanted to drop Tommy Matolla's ass it could be done. If 50 flops do you think that Jimmy doesn't have at least 10 or 11 other motherfuckers he has to answer too???? Are you going to suck their d**k in your lil editorial too.....lol I was wondering where the King of the Burbs and Kramer went! I think we all now know what rock they've been under.
I didn't say that these folks "run" anything, they are mearly power players! You don't have to be old ass Edgar to be a power player. You have 40 threads a day that would make you a "blog" power player! Rather you like it or not! (it appears that someone has forgotten they're nothing more than a blogger with a strong opinion and not a journalist)
Why is it that whenever certain Black Execs in the industry are mentioned, folks that haven't made well with their own lives like to tear them down. The fact that you are mearly a hip hop site blog king is something that you shot for and accomplished, don't be mad at Kevin Liles, Russel Simmons, J. Prince, Berry Gordy, Catherine L. Hughes (who ass the white folks you mentioned have to kiss in order for their records to be played) are doing their job. No matter how small it may appear to you or anyone else. It's not about putting them above everyone else to make them appear immortal. It's about recognizing their contributions and respecting it. I don't see what you would be changing by "trash talking" on a website none of them read....lol
I don't wear throw backs and bandanas. No need to pull my pants up and only corny dudes rock sunglasses past 7 in the summer....lol There will be no need for me to grow up. I think I've done that at 32 and that was the whole point of me riding with the older crowd.
The person that needs a career change would be the gentleman that has nothing more to do with his time than to sit and tear other folks with a job and a title. Instead of you trying to change the world with your fingers and other "pissed off" bloggers WHy not go and get a real job. You can't be doing much if you're in here all day yapping!
Ain't but four people across the world in my career field who make more than me
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 11:46 AM
Kirk Franklyn
Billy Graham
Jimmy Swaggart
The Pope (but the church just settled a 660 million dollar lawsuit . . . so you may be number 3 Andy)
Poor Nimrod....lol I almost didn't respond to this, but thought I have 5 mins to spare why not. Are you a member of the Klan or something? you drop the n-bomb as if you were working a slave trade or something??? Are you totally against Blacks that are doing well at their positions?? They may not be owners of the companies they work for, but they all are pretty sucessful at thier postions. (speaking of ownership, do you own anything???)
You're talking shit about the Black Execs I mention, but appear to be immortalizing the white Execs. Please explain this to me??? "They will do a jig for 30 pieces"....lol Are you serious??? Jimmy,Tommy and Edgar may want to get their tap shoes out of the closet, (where you've been apparently) because we all have to answer to someone. Shareholders are the people who run even the the white execs that you mentioned. If they wanted to drop Tommy Matolla's ass it could be done. If 50 flops do you think that Jimmy doesn't have at least 10 or 11 other motherfuckers he has to answer too???? Are you going to suck their d**k in your lil editorial too.....lol I was wondering where the King of the Burbs and Kramer went! I think we all now know what rock they've been under.
I didn't say that these folks "run" anything, they are mearly power players! You don't have to be old ass Edgar to be a power player. You have 40 threads a day that would make you a "blog" power player! Rather you like it or not! (it appears that someone has forgotten they're nothing more than a blogger with a strong opinion and not a journalist)
Why is it that whenever certain Black Execs in the industry are mentioned, folks that haven't made well with their own lives like to tear them down. The fact that you are mearly a hip hop site blog king is something that you shot for and accomplished, don't be mad at Kevin Liles, Russel Simmons, J. Prince, Berry Gordy, Catherine L. Hughes (who ass the white folks you mentioned have to kiss in order for their records to be played) are doing their job. No matter how small it may appear to you or anyone else. It's not about putting them above everyone else to make them appear immortal. It's about recognizing their contributions and respecting it. I don't see what you would be changing by "trash talking" on a website none of them read....lol
I don't wear throw backs and bandanas. No need to pull my pants up and only corny dudes rock sunglasses past 7 in the summer....lol There will be no need for me to grow up. I think I've done that at 32 and that was the whole point of me riding with the older crowd.
The person that needs a career change would be the gentleman that has nothing more to do with his time than to sit and tear other folks with a job and a title. Instead of you trying to change the world with your fingers and other "pissed off" bloggers Why not go and get a real job. You can't be doing much if you're in here all day yapping!
EReal/Brooklyn B/ 3x OG/ Dre G./ PZ/SLIM/Bird/T from Atl/ Big Sun......
TAKE NOTES FAM!
THIS IS HOW YOU OBJECTIVELY ERADICATE/ETHER A STAN!
Posted by: Nimrod at July 16, 2007 11:02 AM
You're one of those people who've bought into the concept wherever black people live is the hood. Poor kid. You need help and a hug. LOL!
^^^^
Well, I actually reside in Dekalb county (Lithonia to be exact) which is the 2nd wealthiest black county in America only behind Maryland's Prince George County. So I would know about the whole concept of "wherever black people live is the hood". Plus i'm a Commerical Real Estate Agent who Specialize in CDCs (those are community development corporations for the uninformed. Keep ur help and your hug, i'll settle for the knowledge.
Tattoo's have historically been part of an outlaw culture. Most black men who served time in prison or the military would get one or two. Most women with tats tended to be whores, strippers or women of ill repute. Go get your dictionary so you can keep up today. Class is in session moron. I'm gonna learn ya whether ya like it or not. LOL!
^^^^^^^
Lets Get It!!!
Just a brief history of tattoos homie (i got 2 myself)
the word tattoo is said to has two major derivations- from
the polynesian word ‘ta’ which means striking something
and the tahitian word ‘tatau’ which means ‘to mark something’.
the history of tattoo began over 5000 years ago and is as
diverse as the people who wear them.
Just a few cultures that has been getting tatted up for ever! I just that they were all thugging let u tell it...lol!
The STARTER
bronze age
in 1991, a five thousand year old tattooed man ‘ötzi the ice man’
made the headlines of newspapers all over the world when
his frozen body was discovered on a mountain between
austria and italy.
this is the best preserved corpse of that period ever found.
the skin bears 57 tattoos: a cross on the inside of the left knee,
six straight lines 15 centimeters long above the kidneys and
numerous parallel lines on the ankles.
the position of the tattoo marks suggests that they were probably
applied for therapeutic reasons (treatment of arthritis).
PAZYRYK culture
in 1948, 120 miles north of the border between russia and
china, russian archeologist sergei rudenko began excavating
a group of tombs, or kurgans, in the high altai mountains of
western and southern siberia. mummies were found that date
from around 2400 years ago.
the tattoos on their bodies represent a variety of animals.
the griffins and monsters are thought to have a magical
significance but some elements are believed to be purely
decorative. altogether the tattoos are believed to reflect the
status of the individual.
EGYPT
written records, physical remains, and works of art relevant to
egyptian tattoo have virtually been ignored by earlier egyptologists
influenced by prevailing social attitudes toward the medium.
today however, we know that there have been bodies recovered
dating to as early XI dynasty exhibiting the art form of tattoo
JAPAN
the earliest evidence of tattooing in japan is found in the form
of clay figurines which have faces painted or engraved to
represent tattoo marks. the oldest figurines of this kind have
been recovered from tombs dated 3,000 BC or older, and many
other such figurines have been found in tombs dating from the
second and third millennia BC.
CHINA
from southern china the practice spread along the silk route.
POLYNESIA
in pacific cultures tattooing has a huge historic significance.
polynesian tattooing is considered the most intricate and
skillful tattooing of the ancient world.
polynesian peoples, believe that a person's mana, their spiritual
power or life force, is displayed through their tattoo.
NEW ZEALAND
the maori of new zealand had created one of the most impressive
cultures of all polynesia. their tattoo, called ‘moko’, reflected their
refined artistry - using their woodcarving skills to carve skin.
INDONSIA
borneo is one of the few places in the world where traditional
tribal tattooing is still practiced today just as it has been for
thousands of years.
INDIA/THAILAND
hanuman in india was a popular symbol of strength on
arms and legs. the mythical monk is still today one of the
most popular creations in thailand and myanmar.
AFRICA
in africa, where people have dark skin, it is difficult to make
coloured tattoos as we know them.
but they want to be tattooed anyway, so they have developed
another technique - they make scarifications (this is not really
tattooing, but it is related to tattooing). made by lifting the skin a little,
and making a cut with a knife or some other sharp thing
special sands or ashes were rubbed in to make raised scars
in patterns on the body, it can be felt like braille lettering.
ANCIENT GREECE AND ROME
the greeks learnt tattooing from the persians.
their woman were fascinated by the idea of tattoos as
exotic beauty marks.
the romans adopted tattooing from the greeks.
roman writers such as virgil, seneca, and galenus reported that
many slaves and criminals were tattooed.
THE CELTS
were a tribal people who moved across western europe in times
around 1200 and 700 B.C. they reached the british Isles around
400 B.C. and most of what has survived from their culture is in
the areas now known as ireland, wales and scotland.
celtic culture was full of body art.
permanent body painting was done with woad, which left a blue
design on the skin.
CENTRAL & SOUTH AMERICA
in peru, tattooed inca mummies dating to the 11th century
have been found. 16th century spanish accounts of mayan tattooing
in mexico and central americareveal tattoos to be a sign of courage.
NORTH AMERICA
early jesuit accounts testify to the widespread practice of
tattooing among native americans.
among the chickasaw, outstanding warriors were recognised
by their tattoos. among the ontario iroquoians, elaborate
tattoos reflected high status. in north-west america,
inuit women's chins were tattooed to indicate marital status
and group identity.
MIDDLE-EAST
during the time of the old testament, much of the pagan world
was practicing the art of tattooing as a means of deity worship.
VIKINGS
it is very likely that the vikings were tattooed.
at around year 1100 the arab ibn fadlan described a
meeting with some vikings. he thought them very rude, dirty
and covered with pictures.
ENGLAND
explorers returned home with tattooed polynesians
to exhibit at fairs, in lecture halls and in dime museums,
to demonstrate the height of european civilization compared
to the ‘primitive natives’.
after captain cook returned from his voyage to polynesia
tattooing became a tradition in the british navy.
FRANCE
in the 18th century, many french sailors returning from voyages
in the south pacific had been tattooed.
in 1861, french naval surgeon, maurice berchon, published a study
on the medical complications of tattooing.
after this, the navy and army banned tattooing within their ranks.
stereotypical and sensationalised association of tattoo design
sailor
criminality
circus
Shalom? Bet you think that's some cool shit to say... Grow up lil boy.
it's actually Hebrew for peace
I have have blog on the word "SHALOM" on my myspace blog that give the full break down. I try my best to personify this word in my everyday life.
I bet you're one of those people always bragging about the murder rate in your town. You're proud of stuff like that aren't you? Tell the truth. I know your type.
^^^^^^^
Naw brah i already told you bout my county "Get Money Dekalb" We deal with the facts over here. All black neighborhoods starting in the high 700's.
O KAY I'M RELOADED!!!!!!
SHALOM
curtis is really desperate...dont worry white teens still believe in your shhit
Check this...to me, everything in existence is either CAUSED by God, or ALLOWED by God.
Check the book of Job. Job was the most righteous man alive, and yet God allowed satan to come test him. His own wife told Job to "curse God" for what he was going through, and he wouldn't. God ALLOWED the roof to fall in on Jobs family and kill them all. Did he cause it? NO. Did he allow it? YES. You see...satan had to ask permission too.
My point is that God allowed it to happen.
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 11:59 AM
God is one sick fuck!
I'm in the building.
@ Ereal:
(cont'd from last week)
"....They do whatever I say jack (Sajak) like Wheel of Fortune."
Weezy is a entertaining ass dude, but c'mon..... that was one of them DFB, Nelly type punchlines.
If you CAN NOT see the mockery in that, then you are blinded or really in denial reaching hard to try and make a point.
There is no comparison to women naming their kids Jesus in rememberance and in honor of the Lord, and calling yourself "Shesus" with a mocking picture in hopes to create a buzz for yourself.
If you can't see that...I can't explain it.
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 12:03 PM
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i dont see the mockery because its PERSONAL OPINION.
your telling me a mother can name there child JESUS not know if this kid is gonna be a murderer or what thats cool, but remy gettin a picture made of her on a cross because she calls her self the BX savior.
how you know she aint do that in honor of the lord? because you or reckless say so?
did you ask her, email her or did you just judge the pic?
theres preachers who play that religous shit all day stealing and molesting she have a picture of her on a cross MADE by an artist and she's a mockery.
explain to me WHO indicates whats a mockery and why she couldnt be stating a point?
shit 3-6 mafia get a show on VH1 i guess thats gods will since juicy j pops is a preacher
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
The Pope (but the church just settled a 660 million dollar lawsuit . . . so you may be number 3 Andy)
Posted by: TRIPLE OG STAN at July 16, 2007 12:04 PM
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what they had to pay for?
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
@ Dre Guevara:
Black People partied during Slavery, the Civil Rights Movement, and Today. Dancing and Celebrating is part our our African heritage. If you want to walk around angry all the time, be my guest. It won't change anything. I like Boosie, I like Common. It's possible to like both. I don't like a lot of "concious" rap because the production sucks on a lot of it. Spitting 88 bars over the "Shook Ones' beat wont work here. You all are looking for something from ENTERTAINERS they can't provide. If you want to enlighten your hood, DO IT. Stop looking for Russel or Com to do it for you. Common and Talib are signed to record deals and trying to sell just like Boosie and Wayne. The industry is the industry.
Posted by: T From ATL at July 16, 2007 10:58 AM
it's not about being angry all the time, U can be conscious & make music 2 party & dance 2, alot of rappers did back in the Golden Era, & don't even trip, b/c I strive 2 keep my people in the hood enlightened, so no, I'm not looking 4 Russell Simmons 2 change a damn thing either, fuck him 2, but U're absolutely right, the industry IS the industry, it's been dumbed down 4 the love of $, & all I'm saying is that there needs 2 be that balance again, Lil Wayne (no Slim, I'm not dissin' him) & Lil' Boosie & all the other Lil's & Youngs' R being force fed by the industry 2 the young fans 2 like these so-called "Hot" rappers, it's cool 2 play that on the radio, but @ the same time, play some Black Star & some of the other who don't glamorize & promote coonery.
Think about it, anytime a rap group is denied video or radio play 4 being "too intelligent" that should be a sign that something is wrong in the industry, but hey, if that's what the masses wanna hear, so be it, just stop talking down on the positive MCs, then calling the fans of those MCs haters b/c they choose not 2 follow what is considered the norm.
Shareholders are the people who run even the the white execs that you mentioned. If they wanted to drop Tommy Matolla's ass it could be done. If 50 flops do you think that Jimmy doesn't have at least 10 or 11 other motherfuckers he has to answer too????
Posted by: Tool on Deck at July 16, 2007 12:06 PM
Shareholders are technically the ones who run major corporations, but 9 times out of 10 these "White execs" are the majority shareholder of the company they work for. When major decisions are made by the share holders they usually vote on it. If you own the majority shares of a company you can veto shit like the president.
5% makes me laugh. It's nothing but a perverted manipulation of the english languauge with a cute cliche. Wisdom=Wise the dome Knowlegde=Know the ledge. What if wisdom had been pronounced muffin, then what. Caught up in the midst of 6. What a joke! The only thing 5% is good for is the rap industry.
"shame on a nigga" the prophet ODB from the book of WU-Tang
what they had to pay for?
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 12:14 PM
Your average preacher's favorite pass-time. Fucking little boys!
All black neighborhoods starting in the high 700's.
O KAY I'M RELOADED!!!!!!
SHALOM
Posted by: Tool on Deck at July 16, 2007 12:06 PM
That why them niggas is foreclosing left & right down "therre"
Your average preacher's favorite pass-time. Fucking little boys!
Posted by: TRIPLE OG STAN at July 16, 2007 12:19 PM
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ohhhhhhhhh
and they talking about remys mixtape cover.
wow
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!!
To anyone who wants to help me out with some seious shit, feel free.
So, my Myspace been actin up lately. Therefore, I wasnt able to read all my bulletins stop. So I couldnt repost important messages. So I started doing the math, and I got at least 50 yrs of bad luck comin my way, for no reposting in less than 10 mins.
PZ: since u into religion, should I take it that serious, u also got Myspace, so u should know what im talkin about... anyway, what u think
PEACE
Posted by: Dre Guevara at July 16, 2007 11:41 AM
WTF?
Dear "Bizarro" Dre Guevara
Since U're so concerned with putting words in people's mouth, U should concern Urself with puttin' a dick in yours......
Fuckin' Clown!!!
P.S. I don't believe in bad luck, WTF is that?
FUCK DIPSET!!
FUCKIN COCK SUCKERS.
EReal/Brooklyn B/ 3x OG/ Dre G./ PZ/SLIM/Bird/T from Atl/ Big Sun......
TAKE NOTES FAM!
THIS IS HOW YOU OBJECTIVELY ERADICATE/ETHER A STAN!
That why them niggas is foreclosing left & right down "therre"
Posted by: *SMH* @ Black people going broke trying to floss at July 16, 2007 12:23 PM
That would be b/c of mortgage fraud which has everything to do with appraisal fraud but i wouldn't expect you to overstand none of that RHETORIC....LOL!
SHALOM
Posted by: Black man can't even be president, how can he be god? at July 16, 2007 12:19 PM
Black men coud be president if other black men believed in it..... 5%??? If you cant get down with it leave it alone.
@ Remy Ma:
Before you can save a burrough, 1st you must be the hands down, undisputed best of that best there. Jay can save hip-hop if he the richest and most popular artist at the time, saying the most relevant/intelligent shit.
@ Tool on Deck:
Jay said that, but c'mon, I've heard SOOOOOOO much worser shit. That was a hook, duke...... I hear whole verses that stink WAAAAAY worse than that (i.e. Hurricane Chris, Huey, Bow Wow, and the Chicken Noodle Soup broad). Cut the dude some slack, he got talk to dumb-heads too.
Posted by: BY USING GOOGLE? at July 16, 2007 12:28 PM
YEAH....ITS CALLED UTILIZING KNOWLEDGE?
TRY IT SOMETIMES, IT WORKS...LOL!
SHALOM
@jaysiatic
"One life to live, never ask for a mulligan" - Wayne (black repub. remix)
WTF!?
5% makes me laugh. It's nothing but a perverted manipulation of the english languauge with a cute cliche. Wisdom=Wise the dome Knowlegde=Know the ledge. What if wisdom had been pronounced muffin, then what. Caught up in the midst of 6. What a joke! The only thing 5% is good for is the rap industry.
"shame on a nigga" the prophet ODB from the book of WU-Tang
Posted by: Black man can't even be president, how can he be god? at July 16, 2007 12:19 PM
opinions R like assholes 2, everybody has one.
Oh B4 I 4get,This quote needs 2 be posted in the Negro Please column in XXL
LADIES, GENTLEMEN, & Low Lifes....
"I been signed to Diplomat Records since two thousand and fuckin two. I'm droppin June 28th. That's my release date. For all the dumb c*ck-suckin f*ggots who think I'm not droppin an album. June 28th stupid. What the f*ck I look like not droppin an album? Is you crazy? I looked like I killed an album already! Look at me, stupid! Look at me! I looked like I put out an album already n*gga! I been signed to Diplomat Records since two thousand four. Whoever said that I'm not dropping is a mothaf*ckin clown man. What I look like not droppin? I'm one of the most important figures to the 'Set, n*gga. Bleek, you're not hot. Tru Life... I'm not even gonna talk about yall n*ggas no more, man."
he asked "WTF I look like not droppin' an album?"
someone who put his foot in his mouth.
That why them niggas is foreclosing left & right down "therre"
Posted by: *SMH* @ Black people going broke trying to floss at July 16, 2007 12:23 PM
That would be b/c of mortgage fraud which has everything to do with appraisal fraud but i wouldn't expect you to overstand none of that RHETORIC....LOL!
SHALOM
Posted by: Tool on Deck at July 16, 2007 12:28 PM
It's actually houses down there that APPRAISING at like 600,000, but on the market sell for like 180,000 because of location, property value, age, and how long they been on the market. It's more to house values than it looks like.
That would be b/c of mortgage fraud which has everything to do with appraisal fraud but i wouldn't expect you to overstand none of that RHETORIC....LOL!
SHALOM
Posted by: Tool on Deck at July 16, 2007 12:28 PM
RealtyTrac™ (www.realtytrac.com), the leading online marketplace for foreclosure properties, today released its first annual 2006 U.S. Metropolitan Foreclosure Market Report, which ranks the foreclosure rates of the top 100 metropolitan areas. This year’s report, based on data captured over the first quarter of 2006, shows Indianapolis, Atlanta and Dallas having the highest foreclosure rates among the nation’s largest 100 metropolitan areas. Cities in the Sun Belt and Rust Belt generally had the highest foreclosure rates in the first quarter of 2006, while cities in the Northeast and Gulf Coast documented some of the lowest.
RealtyTrac publishes the largest national database of pre-foreclosure and foreclosure properties, with more than 600,000 properties in more than 2,500 counties across the country, and is the foreclosure data provider to MSN Real Estate, Yahoo! Real Estate, AOL Real Estate and Knight Ridder Online.
“Indianapolis narrowly edged out Atlanta as the city with the highest foreclosure rate in Q1,†said James J. Saccacio, chief executive officer of RealtyTrac. “Most of the cities with the highest foreclosure rates have above-average unemployment rates and below-average home price appreciation. Unemployment is a major reason why homeowners stop making mortgage payments, and slow home price appreciation can make it harder for homeowners in default to refinance or sell to stop foreclosure.â€
Saccacio added that other economic factors such as decreasing affordability, rising interest rates and speculative buying can also fuel foreclosures. He cited Jacksonville, Fla. and Las Vegas Nevada, both of which documented foreclosure rates in the top 10 despite below-average unemployment and above-average home price appreciation.
“Because of the high home prices in many areas, more home buyers have stretched themselves financially with creative, and often risky financing that involves adjustable interest rates, interest only and negative amortization loans†he said. “Home buyers with these types of loans are more susceptible to default and foreclosure when interest rates move higher
@ Ereal:
I read them shits from last week saturday morning, off the "I worked hard as shit yesterday and couldn't hop on NYC." I dont get that either. But off the Weezy quotes for a sec.:
"I'm just kidding like Jason...." Nelly, Hot in Herre
Yeah, I know.... that's sort of a throwback, but that joint is horrible to this day.
Black men coud be president if other black men believed in it..... 5%??? If you cant get down with it leave it alone.
Posted by: Jaysiatic at July 16, 2007 12:31 PM
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Won't be obama. God's been God forever, black mam has been black forever. If Black man is God he should have already been pres. No one believes in it. 95% of Americans believe in some form of God, 80% believe in Christ. Thus proving (lol) Black man is not God.
Question: Why would black man make himself a slave to "white devils" if he is God? That seems out of order
No niggas attack you because WE come in here to bust it up about hip hop and current events (sometimes religion, but not every fucking day).
You seriously need a life outside of this blog.
Posted by: TRIPLE OG STAN at July 16, 2007 11:59 AM
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Naw..it's cuz when you showed your real face and acted like your real self..like a grown man acking like a little child...we shut you down on it, the whole room...nobody was feelin your cornball ways and you got shut down. Then you go take on an assumed name and get back to bein your normal child like self.
And me the bitch? Where I come from, bitches deal in fake and phoney ways....those was the bitches. Now..who is that? Is that "TRIPLE OG STAN" whose whole existence on this blog is geared around a fake person wanting to be somebody else?
@Brooklyn B...I already told you that if you couldn't see the mockery in it, it wasn't nothin I could do about that or explain it to you any other way. No need to try and keep askin me....it's like me runnin up on a blind man talkin bout.."you see that?"
I ain't bout to be patty cakin wit ya'll no more on here.
@Tool...get it homeboy. FYI- after the event on the 17th, on the 18th we settin up a stage over deep on the far west side of San Antonio...the roughest parts and hittin them streets. Kingdom resources is supplyin the food and we gonna be goin door to door giving awa the free meals and just showin that Christ like love. You still comin? lol
Nigga, we all know what you look like NOT dropping an album... Can someone tell me what you look like dropping an album?
Question: Why would black man make himself a slave to "white devils" if he is God? That seems out of order
Posted by: Black man can't even be president, how can he be god? at July 16, 2007 12:40 PM
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Why would jesus get tortured and hung on a cross by MAN who he created if he was god
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
RealtyTrac™ (www.realtytrac.com), the leading online marketplace for foreclosure properties, today released its first annual 2006 U.S. Metropolitan Foreclosure Market Report, which ranks the foreclosure rates of the top 100 metropolitan areas. This year’s report, based on data captured over the first quarter of 2006, shows Indianapolis, Atlanta and Dallas having the highest foreclosure rates among the nation’s largest 100 metropolitan areas. Cities in the Sun Belt and Rust Belt generally had the highest foreclosure rates in the first quarter of 2006, while cities in the Northeast and Gulf Coast documented some of the lowest.
RealtyTrac publishes the largest national database of pre-foreclosure and foreclosure properties, with more than 600,000 properties in more than 2,500 counties across the country, and is the foreclosure data provider to MSN Real Estate, Yahoo! Real Estate, AOL Real Estate and Knight Ridder Online.
“Indianapolis narrowly edged out Atlanta as the city with the highest foreclosure rate in Q1,†said James J. Saccacio, chief executive officer of RealtyTrac. “Most of the cities with the highest foreclosure rates have above-average unemployment rates and below-average home price appreciation. Unemployment is a major reason why homeowners stop making mortgage payments, and slow home price appreciation can make it harder for homeowners in default to refinance or sell to stop foreclosure.â€
Saccacio added that other economic factors such as decreasing affordability, rising interest rates and speculative buying can also fuel foreclosures. He cited Jacksonville, Fla. and Las Vegas Nevada, both of which documented foreclosure rates in the top 10 despite below-average unemployment and above-average home price appreciation.
“Because of the high home prices in many areas, more home buyers have stretched themselves financially with creative, and often risky financing that involves adjustable interest rates, interest only and negative amortization loans†he said. “Home buyers with these types of loans are more susceptible to default and foreclosure when interest rates move higher
Posted by: I read too black man at July 16, 2007 12:37 PM
Dont worry Tool, I'll handle this one:
@ Person with the obviously "I've never been to the hood a day in my life" cracker-written article excerpt posted above:
ATL is also one of the most highly populated cities in USA, so it kinda balances out. it dont really say that in the article though..... Just FYI.
opinions R like assholes 2, everybody has one.
Posted by: Dre Guevara Presents: Opinions R Like Assholes at July 16, 2007 12:34 PM
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Opinions are like souls, everyone has one.
Why would jesus get tortured and hung on a cross by MAN who he created if he was god
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Posted by: Brooklyn b at July 16, 2007 12:44 PM
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That comment RIGHT THERE shows that you have NO knowledge regarding the Christian belief, and why Christ came and sacrificed himself for mankind.
You just showed your "lack of knowledge" (for lack of a nicer word) regarding everything you sit on here and try and dispute.
BROOKLYN....SIT DOWN.
guess who's back in the motherfucking house with 2 big horns for your motherfucking mouth!!!
BROOKLYN....SIT DOWN.
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 12:47 PM
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And with that....I'm out!
Brooklyn B...you still in Brooklyn. TRIPLE OG, you still fakin, it's still Monday and Jesus is still alive!
SHALOM!
PZ
Why would jesus get tortured and hung on a cross by MAN who he created if he was god
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Posted by: Brooklyn b at July 16, 2007 12:44 PM
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It was the ORDER. It was priests who prepared the sacrificial lamb whose blood covered sin. Old Testament.
Jesus came in the order of the laws God gave moses "not to destroy it but to fulfill it"
Thus it was pharaseetical priests who called for His death. The Lamb of God who takes the sin of the world.
He was done by men -- not the devil.
He submitted to the order he set because He is not a liar.
So He submitted to himself.
HEAVEN STAND UP!@!!!!!!
That comment RIGHT THERE shows that you have NO knowledge regarding the Christian belief, and why Christ came and sacrificed himself for mankind.
You just showed your "lack of knowledge" (for lack of a nicer word) regarding everything you sit on here and try and dispute.
BROOKLYN....SIT DOWN.
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 12:47 PM
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PZ
your dumb theres no other way for me to say it but just like that your dumb.
its funny that you would comment on my comment but not what i was responding to.
do what u do best and judge, insult and push your beliefs on people that wanna hear that shit.
now for what i was responding to was:
Question: Why would black man make himself a slave to "white devils" if he is God? That seems out of order
Posted by: Black man can't even be president, how can he be god? at July 16, 2007 12:40 PM
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Why would jesus get tortured and hung on a cross by MAN who he created if he was god
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i know alot more then you would want to believe, i see that, and keep noticing how you keep making assumtions of who i am and where im at, lol,
and its crazy that your on SOHH NYC and get tight that i say BROOKLYN STAND UP something relevant to NY.
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
He was done by men -- not the devil.
He submitted to the order he set because He is not a liar.
So He submitted to himself.
HEAVEN STAND UP!@!!!!!!
Posted by: Black man can't even be president, how can he be god? at July 16, 2007 12:52 PM
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and again he got done in by something HE created? wow.
and the blackman went through slavery and is now the biggest influence in the world..........
okay, your point is what
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
it's still Monday and Jesus is still alive!
SHALOM!
PZ
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 12:50 PM
Your right it is Monday, meaning church was yesterday
Won't be obama. God's been God forever, black mam has been black forever. If Black man is God he should have already been pres. No one believes in it. 95% of Americans believe in some form of God, 80% believe in Christ. Thus proving (lol) Black man is not God.
Question: Why would black man make himself a slave to "white devils" if he is God? That seems out of order
Posted by: Black man can't even be president, how can he be god? at July 16, 2007 12:40 PM
Now I gotta get on my PZ/Big Sun type shit. If Blacks just had it SOOOOOO easy, we wouldn't have had such a relevant history now would we??? (No offense) White people's history dates back as far as past the biblical days (depending on what you believe) and yet today, u have so many anti-christ, atheists, and homo-superior white folks. The main part of Black history is mostly starting at our entry into slavery days, which is something NO Black man can deny as being part of their heritage. There is tragedy in every positive part of life, so we lost 40 acres and hundreds of people fought for us so that today Blacks would be able to enjoy and appreciate the concept of freedom. Main Point: If you started at the top, would you really appreciate being at the top as much as if you had to work from the bottom to get there??
Opinions are like dicks in mouths... We all have one(or 2 xoxox)
Opinions are like dicks in mouths... We all have one(or 2 xoxox)
Hell Rell-what does "eblivarated" mean?
Posted by: yupyup at July 16, 2007 10:12 AM
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you dumb muvafucka that means when you be ebliverating niggas, ebliverated is AFTER i done done it.
go cop my abum
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Thanks for the "definition(?)" Putting that 6th education to work I see.
"What do you believe in, Heaven or Hell?
we don't believe in Heaven cuz we're livin' in Hell"
@Jaysiatic
Too bold, too cold like wet salami and - Wayne "My Daddy"
^
No Homo. LOL.
I'm lookin fa Mrs. Bubble Gum
I'm Mr. Chik-O-Stick
I wanna (dun dun dunt) (oh)
Cuz you so thick
@ Ereal:
Uggh!!! Won't go near that.
"I'm in the hood like Peanut Chews and Mike an' Ikes"- That nigga Hell Rell up there, Wouldn't You like 2 B a Hustler Too???
I'm not really sure bout the name of the song.
@ Dre:
They actually say Bubble Gum and Chic-O-Stic, down there in place of they counterparts, so it's not a bad quote, it's just a regional quote limited to those in ATL.
@Xclusive BK Dude
How come you on the ATL blog, but never on the NYC blog no more? Or are you undercover?
@Tool on Deck
Your stupidity has drawn fire from others in here. Dekalb is The second richest "black" county? Whatever bozo. Your county wreaks of corruption. Panola road and wesley chapel are a far cry from prime real estate.
Prince George county has the highest murder rate outside of Baltimore in MD and you use that as an example? Stop while you're ahead before you bury yourself.
@Boston George
I referred to white execs as sexual deviants but guess who the sex slaves usually are? Oops you're probably one of them.
This is my first time on this blog in months because I actually have something to do. I don't hate black execs per se. I simply refuse to promote lies. I pointed out inaccuracies in your statement. Shareholders don't run the companies they hire Ceo's Cfo's and so on to do that but you obviously don't know that. You perpetuated the myth of power YOUR heroes have and I dispelled it. The truth proved too much for you to bare.
Have a nice day young man. 30 is the new 20. LMAO!
@Tool on Deck
Your stupidity has drawn fire from others in here. Dekalb is The second richest "black" county? Whatever bozo. Your county wreaks of corruption. Panola road and wesley chapel are a far cry from prime real estate.
Prince George county has the highest murder rate outside of Baltimore in MD and you use that as an example? Stop while you're ahead before you bury yourself.
@Boston George
I referred to white execs as sexual deviants but guess who the sex slaves usually are? Oops you're probably one of them.
This is my first time on this blog in months because I actually have something to do. I don't hate black execs per se. I simply refuse to promote lies. I pointed out inaccuracies in your statement. Shareholders don't run the companies they hire Ceo's Cfo's and so on to do that but you obviously don't know that. You perpetuated the myth of power YOUR heroes have and I dispelled it. The truth proved too much for you to bare.
Have a nice day young man. 30 is the new 20. LMAO!
Posted by: Nimrod at July 16, 2007 1:31 PM
My bad, I got in here a lil late today.... but what about PG County???
@Tool on Deck
Your stupidity has drawn fire from others in here. Dekalb is The second richest "black" county? Whatever bozo. Your county wreaks of corruption. Panola road and wesley chapel are a far cry from prime real estate.
Prince George county has the highest murder rate outside of Baltimore in MD and you use that as an example? Stop while you're ahead before you bury yourself.
Posted by: Nimrod at July 16, 2007 1:31 PM
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Lets deal with the real and let it be. If those are not the 1st and 2nd riches black counties in America then you prove it. Not subjectively but objectively. oh yeah, do u still believe that tats came from an "Outlaw element"? lol! in the words of Dre Guevara "Niggaz are working so hard to be so dumb" *SMH*
What up Jay?!! I see ya folk!
SHALOM
@Boston George
Re: Cathy Hughes
No one kisses her ass to get records played on her stations. They simply pay her and her son Alfred who only dates white women by the way. Despite her pro black charade she helps promote some of the most negative images of blacks on her airwaves. Not surprised you're impressed with her too. You're consistent. I'll say that for you. You and your crew of role models are no different than the negroes who helped capture Africans and sell them into slavery only to end up on the same boat when it was all over. Enjoy your momentary pleasure. You'll find it shortlived... Now I've got work to do so wallow in your ignorance while I'm gone.
^^^^^ Never mind I scrolled up to it. As a resident of PG county, I co-sign that statement to the fullest, only because my house is worth 500 thou + and we bought it originally for 200 thousand. And we building all new houses and neighborhoods where all them fuckin trees used to be, so we getting to being like 85% urban, 15% rural. And whites mostly live out in Montgomery, Anne Arundel, Calvert, and Frederick counties, though they in even more expensive houses. Know where you at, duke. Tool, you can't edumacate e'erybody. Some cats feel like reading a book or 2 makes them a doctor.
@Tool On Deck
How many people wearing Tats today give a rats ass about your wikpedia history lesson? They wear them to intimidate and fit in. Just like the dreads and pitbulls and gold teeth. Nothing but defense mechanisms for cowards. Hoping if they look tough no one will bother them.
In the black community the current tat trend started with Tupac a decade ago. There were people with tats before him and THEY were usually part of the outlaw element. Like everything else, Hip Hop took something with negative connotations and glorified it. Just like drug dealing, killing, etc. Why do I have to break things down for you? Are you slow? Or are you in denial? I couldn't give a fuck about lost causes like you. My concern is for the youth. I don't want history to repeat itself. Now fuck off and go find someone else to play with.
ALL YOU SMART MOFOS MUST'VE STAYED AT A HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS LAST NIGHT....
How many people wearing Tats today give a rats ass about your wikpedia history lesson? They wear them to intimidate and fit in. Just like the dreads and pitbulls and gold teeth. Nothing but defense mechanisms for cowards. Hoping if they look tough no one will bother them.
In the black community the current tat trend started with Tupac a decade ago. There were people with tats before him and THEY were usually part of the outlaw element. Like everything else, Hip Hop took something with negative connotations and glorified it. Just like drug dealing, killing, etc. Why do I have to break things down for you? Are you slow? Or are you in denial? I couldn't give a fuck about lost causes like you. My concern is for the youth. I don't want history to repeat itself. Now fuck off and go find someone else to play with.
Posted by: Nimrod at July 16, 2007 1:56 PM
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@ Dre:
They actually say Bubble Gum and Chic-O-Stic, down there in place of they counterparts, so it's not a bad quote, it's just a regional quote limited to those in ATL.
Posted by: Jaysiatic at July 16, 2007 1:12 PM
I hear U jay,but I'm not a big fan of Laffy Taffy, there4, I did'nt post that bullshit.
Lets deal with the real and let it be. If those are not the 1st and 2nd riches black counties in America then you prove it. Not subjectively but objectively. oh yeah, do u still believe that tats came from an "Outlaw element"? lol! in the words of Dre Guevara "Niggaz are working so hard to be so dumb" *SMH*
What up Jay?!! I see ya folk!
SHALOM
Posted by: Tool on Deck at July 16, 2007 1:39 PM
According to the US Census Bureau with 27.8 percent of people in poverty, Atlanta is the 5th poorest place in the US with a population of 250,000 or more residents
@Jaysiatic
Was my statement about the murder rate in PG county wrong?
Besides, I never heard of black county statistics before. What "book" can I find that in? How do you legally define a "black county" in terms of real estate? Are any whites permitted to live in "black counties?" LOL!
I don't care what your house was appraised for. PG County is a high crime county and not a good place to raise children. Neither is Dekalb for that matter.
Some people will make up shit just to sound smart.
@ Stan who stanned Dre:
Why not just drive ya car off a bridge with ya baby moms in the trunk and get it over with??
@Xclusive BK Dude
How come you on the ATL blog, but never on the NYC blog no more? Or are you undercover?
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 1:26 PM
We dont have cars, nor baby moms.
According to the US Census Bureau with 27.8 percent of people in poverty, Atlanta is the 5th poorest place in the US with a population of 250,000 or more residents
Posted by: US Census Bureau at July 16, 2007 2:03 PM
What's that got to do with property value of houses??? And that's just like that article up there, it's another half truth. The census bureau calculates how many people per square mile of a given city, state, etc. That don't say how rich or poor they are or how much money that city generates. Based on that, it could be 10 poor people in PG county living next to 1 rich person, and PG would be the poorest county. Do some more research on that 1 and get the math right.
Posted by: US Census Bureau at July 16, 2007 2:03 PM
That true to but please prove my claim wrong since u have the knowledge.
@Nimrod
google it u clown!
SHALOM
We dont have cars, nor baby moms.
Posted by: Stans who Stan Dre at July 16, 2007 2:09 PM
Then just run and jump off the bridge with your computer strapped to ya back typing, "Oh shit, I forgot/ How am I s'posed to send this shit out????" until you hit the bottom of the river.
I like my county. There's a nice mixture of all races.
@Xclusive BK Dude
How come you on the ATL blog, but never on the NYC blog no more? Or are you undercover?
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 1:26 PM
Posted by: U CANT HIDE COWARD THE STREETS R WATCHN at July 16, 2007 2:06 PM
@ Nimrod:
That statement is true and false. PG has prolley the highest murder rate amongst Black counties, true. But once again, there is more to that story. PG is also the largest county PERIOD in the state of Maryland based on population. As is the case with most large populated counties, most of that population lives in the hood/ghetto (where I was born and raised), where 95% of the murder/crime takes place. Where I live now (clinton,md) is still PG county, but considered "boondocks" cuz it aint that citified, but the murder rate out here is low. Furthermore, the property value, of course, in the hood is lower, but in clinton, houses is going up. Same is the case with dekalb. See, what you gotta realize is these crackers (no offense to any) take lil things like that and flip it so that when you get that info, it's not the whole truth, but you think u really getting Smart. They do that why??? So you'll be scared to move to these areas (like you sounding right now) or so that they can charge you double what a house is worth in some other area that is highly populated with a so called "lower crime rate". U smell me???
@ Nimrod:
That statement is true and false. PG has prolley the highest murder rate amongst Black counties, true. But once again, there is more to that story. PG is also the largest county PERIOD in the state of Maryland based on population. As is the case with most large populated counties, most of that population lives in the hood/ghetto (where I was born and raised), where 95% of the murder/crime takes place. Where I live now (clinton,md) is still PG county, but considered "boondocks" cuz it aint that citified, but the murder rate out here is low. Furthermore, the property value, of course, in the hood is lower, but in clinton, houses is going up. Same is the case with dekalb. See, what you gotta realize is these crackers (no offense to any) take lil things like that and flip it so that when you get that info, it's not the whole truth, but you think u really getting Smart. They do that why??? So you'll be scared to move to these areas (like you sounding right now) or so that they can charge you double what a house is worth in some other area that is highly populated with a so called "lower crime rate". U smell me???
"And I Don't Mean Basketball When I Say I Don't Know Yao"
"I'm A Paper Chasin Dog Check My Toenails "
"Party time Excellent Yeah Wayne's World, Campbell's Soup On The Wrist Just Call Me Earl "
Lil Wayne - "Get High, Screw the World"
That true to but please prove my claim wrong since u have the knowledge.
Posted by: Tool on Deck at July 16, 2007 2:11 PM
Well, lucky for you the Census website doesn't have information on counties. But I did find an article in the NY post that proves the claim you made about mortage fraud invalid:
ATLANTA — Despite a vibrant local economy, Atlanta homeowners are falling behind on mortgage payments and losing their homes at one of the highest rates in the nation, offering a troubling glimpse of what experts fear may be in store for other parts of the country.
The real estate slump here and elsewhere is likely to worsen, given that most of the adjustable rate mortgages written in the last three years will be reset with higher interest rates, said Christopher F. Thornberg, an economist with Beacon Economics in Los Angeles. As a result, borrowers of an estimated $800 billion in loans will be forced in the next 12 months to 18 months to make bigger monthly payments, refinance or sell their homes.
A big reason the fallout is occurring faster here is a Georgia law that permits lenders to foreclose on properties more quickly than in other states. The problems include not just people losing their homes, but also sharp declines in property values, particularly in lower-income and working-class neighborhoods.
For example, a three-bedroom house near Turner Field, where the Atlanta Braves baseball team plays, fetched a high bid late last month of $134,000 at an auction by the bank that took possession of it. Almost three years ago, the new home was bought for $330,000.
While the surge in foreclosures in other big cities like Cleveland, New Orleans and Detroit can be attributed to local economic challenges, Atlanta more closely reflects the nation. Its unemployment rate, 4.9 percent in May, is low and close to the national average of 4.5 percent. And businesses here are adding jobs, albeit at a slower pace than they were last year.
Like others across the country, homeowners here took out aggressive mortgages in the last few years when interest rates were low and housing prices were soaring. Now many are falling behind — some have lost jobs or experienced other financial difficulties, but many others are not able to refinance because their homes are worth less than they paid for them and their credit is now too weak for them to qualify for another loan.
So far, the pain has been limited to those on the financial margins, but as more loans are reset to higher rates and home prices continue to slide, more homeowners will be unable to meet rising payments or to refinance. “This is a process that is starting low and will go high,†said Mr. Thornberg, the economist in Los Angeles.
Atlanta also serves as a microcosm for some broader national trends: wages have been stagnant for much of this decade, homeowners have taken on record amounts of debt, and mortgage fraud has been on the rise.
“We are a very affordable place,†said Mike Alexander, the chief of research at the Atlanta Regional Commission, an organization that serves local governments. “But our incomes are very low, and if anything went wrong, it would be very hard for people to maintain their homes.â€
An estimated 2.7 percent of all housing units in the region were in foreclosure at the end of last year, up from 1.1 percent in 2000, according to an analysis by the commission. Nationally, less than 1 percent of all housing units were in foreclosure, according to data from the Mortgage Bankers Association and the Census Bureau.
Though Atlanta has added jobs in recent years, they pay less than the jobs the region lost after the technology boom of the late 1990s ended. The median household income was only 7.6 percent higher in 2005 than in 2000, according to the Census Bureau. That is about half the rate of inflation during that period, and it mirrors what has occurred nationally.
While wages have languished, average Atlanta families are shouldering more debt. As of March, residents had bigger credit card balances, mortgages and car loans relative to their income than average Americans, according to data compiled by Moody’s Economy.com. And the equity that Atlanta residents have in their homes — the value of their house minus what they owe — has dropped 14 percent since peaking in late 2005.
By comparison, in California — the state where mortgage lending was most aggressive, real estate prices climbed fastest and homeowners have the highest debt burdens — home equity values have dropped about 10 percent from their peak in 2005.
Georgia’s foreclosure laws have also accelerated a process that can drag on for months in legal proceedings in other states. Lenders can declare a borrower in default and reclaim a house in as little as 60 days.
“Because of the foreclosure laws, it may be that people go from delinquency into foreclosure much more quickly in Georgia,†said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Economy.com.
That still would not explain why so many people fall behind on house payments in the first place.
At the end of March, 6 percent of all mortgages in Georgia were more than 30 days past due, the fourth-highest rate in the nation, according to the Mortgage Bankers Association. Mississippi, Louisiana and Michigan had more loans past due.
Rajeev Dhawan, an economics professor at Georgia State University, has started studying the characteristics of loans on homes that are in foreclosure. His preliminary analysis of data from April shows that nearly half were for adjustable rate mortgages and many were issued in the last two years.
“Everybody thought if the home prices kept going up, the lenders will keep refinancing you,†he said.
In recent years, industry groups and law enforcement agencies have also cited Atlanta for being home to some aggressive mortgage fraud schemes. It may have been an easier target because the prices of homes in the same neighborhood can vary greatly here, making it easier to inflate appraisals.
Auctions for a dozen homes conducted one day in late June across the Atlanta area — from gritty inner-city neighborhoods to the affluent suburb of Marietta — provide a window into how the real estate slump is playing out here.
The most prized property on offer that day was a stately four-bedroom brick home in Marietta that sits on a tree-covered lot measuring three-quarters of an acre. It fetched a high bid of $646,000, about $60,000 more than the last mortgage on the property. More than 200 people turned up at the auction, and the winning bidders were a young couple, Cameron and Jamie Clayton, who are expecting a second child this year.
“I wouldn’t say it is a steal,†said Mr. Clayton, who is an executive at The Weather Channel. “We paid the same price we would have paid on the market, maybe more.â€
But about 25 miles south, an auction for the three-bedroom home near Turner Field produced a starkly different result. Corey Neureuther, a 29-year-old accountant, was the winning bidder. He said it was his first real estate investment and he was surprised that others did not bid the price up at the auction, which drew about 30 people. Having recently moved to Atlanta from New York, he said he became interested in buying property after learning about foreclosures in the area.
“I thought for sure it would sell for $200,000 plus,†he said. Mr. Neureuther said he thought that he could make money by renting out the house.
Stephanie Calhoun, the former owner of the home, could not be reached for comment. Property records show she took out two loans to finance 100 percent of the purchase price. She borrowed the money from Ownit Mortgage Solutions, a California company that sought bankruptcy protection in December after many of its customers defaulted on their loans. Investors who bought bonds backed by Ownit loans will bear the loss on her home.
Dean Williams, the president of Williams & Williams, the firm that conducted the auctions, said results of the sales in Atlanta and elsewhere in the country showed that real estate prices were inflated during the recent boom, especially in less affluent areas.
“When you find out what the market price really is, it can be a joke,†said Mr. Williams, whose family-owned firm is based in Tulsa, Okla.
Economists say auctions are generally the most efficient way to determine prices. But only about 1 percent of residential real estate sold in the country last year by dollar value was auctioned.
Most sellers still list homes and wait until they get an offer close to their asking price. At the end of March, 2.8 percent of all owner-occupied homes nationally were vacant and for sale, up from 1.8 percent at the start of 2005. That is the highest vacancy rate in the 51 years the Census Bureau has been tracking it.
But as more homes end up in the hands of banks and trustees for mortgage bonds — who are typically looking to minimize losses — auctions may play a bigger role.
Mark Rollins bought a house southwest of downtown Atlanta for $78,000 at one of the Williams & Williams auctions. The property sold for $255,000 in summer 2004. Mr. Rollins, who is a Realtor, said he planned to live in the house for a couple of years, fix it up and resell it for $150,000 when the market recovered.
Why did the house sell for so much more in 2004? Mr. Rollins has a simple theory: “The market was hot, the interest rates were low, and they were giving all kinds of deals to people.â€
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Posted by: LETS PLAY THE WACKEST PUNCHLINE EVAR GAME!! at July 16, 2007 2:33 PM
"You just roll ya arms, and just put 'em in rotation/ From side to side and stomp ya feet like the Temptations. Dog, I'm all outta state, doing the dance, they never seen that/ I aint Fat Joe, but snap ya fingers, then u lean back."
Pimpin of DFB, "Lean Wit...."
Posted by: LETS PLAY THE WACKEST PUNCHLINE EVAR GAME!! at July 16, 2007 2:33 PM
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"BROOKLYN STAND UP! -Brooklyn B
"BROOKLYN STAND UP! -Xclusive BK Dude
or so that they can charge you double what a house is worth in some other area that is highly populated with a so called "lower crime rate". U smell me???
Posted by: Jaysiatic at July 16, 2007 2:26 PM
Well I guess I'll be paying double because I don't want my kids growing up in a crime infested neighborhood!!!
"You can't put a price on safety"
We dont have cars, nor baby moms.
Posted by: Stans who Stan Dre at July 16, 2007 2:09 PM
Then just run and jump off the bridge with your computer strapped to ya back typing, "Oh shit, I forgot/ How am I s'posed to send this shit out????" until you hit the bottom of the river.
Posted by: Jaysiatic at July 16, 2007 2:14 PM
@ Jaysiatic,
Maybe that's the problem, b/c he sits @ his mom's computer studying someone else's odds when he needs 2 study his own. Son, U need 2 step away from the blog 4 @ least 1 hour, go outside, maybe U'll meet a lonely lame such as yaself.
@Jaysiatic
Unlike a lot of people who google info before pretending to know it all along I try my best to speak from a firsthand basis.
I'm VERY familiar with PG. Clinton is a nice area as is much of PG but for me the problem is how close danger lurks. I also know how deceptive nice looking neighborhoods can be. I'm from NY but I put it in all across the country. In PG my stomping grounds was Palmer Park. Muncy street to be exact. Compton has nice looking areas too. I laugh at people who think because I've taught myself how to read and write properly on the computer that I'm a square. LOL!
Back to PG. I'm not scared to live there. I choose not to invest there. As more people get pushed out of DC into PG the increase in your home may disappear. I could be wrong but that's only my feeling and I'm entitled to that.
Posted by: NY POST at July 16, 2007 2:39 PM
I'll give you credit.....that article was a lil bit better displaying both sides of the spectrum, but it only further illustrates my point about how THEY throw those lil facts out there to scare people into buying houses in "less crime occuring" communities. That part about the house in Marietta selling for more than what it sold for before that, plus in the "outside of Turner Field" AKA the city, them houses sold for far less..... Yeah, that's basically what I said ^^^^^^. By the way, housing off of bank forclosures and auctions generally do sell less than when the house 1st hit the market because the banks/state is just trying to make any $$$, if poss., at that point. They'd rather have somebody living in it giving them $$$ vs. nobody living there and them having to upkeep the property and pay quarterly inspection fees.
Question: Why would black man make himself a slave to "white devils" if he is God? That seems out of order
Posted by: Black man can't even be president, how can he be god? at July 16, 2007 12:40 PM
That question was stupid, we did'nt "make" ourselves slaves, THEY made us slaves, they did'nt say "Black Man, come help me build AmreiKKKa", NO! they said "Nigga get yo' ass in that boat, we're gonna build AmeriKKKA off the blood, sweat & tears of Ur Black ass".
"You can't put a price on safety"
Posted by: Concerned Parent at July 16, 2007 2:44 PM
the key words is "So Called" You can't put a price on complete comprehension either.
Much respect to all those who keep talking that real shit objectively. I feel compelled to throw in my 2 cents and contribute.
50 cent's video I think is a good look, he's not promoting violence in the video and its not overtly demeaning to women. Its simple, visually appealing, and simply a hot track. Check his interview on XXL, he makes music for the masses and uses no cop outs for why shit doesn't sell. He plays music he made for himself for himself, and does not release it. He is an ENTERTAINER, not a role model, and as is his job he has to entertain or he is no longer relevant.
Remy Ma is just foolish. Every action has a consequence. She ethered herself.
As for black execs being "house niggers" and selling out the black community, thats bullshit, Hate in disguise. While I'm sure there are black people in positions of power that do not in fact give a shit about the black community, I'm sure most in fact care, but realize the futility of the situation. Its difficult to help people when all they do is spit venom at you and each other. The crab mentality is devastating.
As for the real estate game in ATL I'm not as well versed as I could be but I've been doing heavy research into purchasing Income properties in Austin, Tx. Anybody been there or add to that?
You can't put a price on safety"
Posted by: Concerned Parent at July 16, 2007 2:44 PM
the key words is "So Called" You can't put a price on complete comprehension either.
Posted by: Jaysiatic at July 16, 2007 2:57 PM
That's real girly of you to add in insults when your trying to make a point.
Did I insult you in any way? No
Since your so smart what other stats or reports can a future homebuyer go by when looking for a house in another city. Let's just say I'm moving from across the country and I know nothing about the crime in the area I'm about to purchase a home in. What tools would I use to help me make a decision since all the media outlets and the government are "juking the stats" to make me believe I'm moving into a "so called" crime free area?
Posted by: Knowledge at July 16, 2007 2:58 PM
^^^^^^^^
Knowledge bone, whats the science baby!!!
Knowledge bone, whats the science baby!!!
Posted by: Method Man at July 16, 2007 3:08 PM
50 has the hottest song in nyc right now, this shit is bangin all over brooklyn fa real.
yall cant stop this kid unless you have someone to take his place and there is nobody else doing shit.TI ALBUM I S WACK except for a couple tracks, this nigga has alot of hype and it shows in the 1st week.ppl will tell they frens to not buy it.shame cause i like his last album.we will see what 50 does this niggas album has like 20 cuts and aint no other rapper giving us that much for 12.99
@ Nimrod:
1st, Palmer Park is like right next to DC (just outside Landover if I'm not mistaken). That's the hood, patna. Refer to my posting above about "so Called" Crime Rates/ living in the ghetto.
2nd, Clinton is nice, yeah, I been here for like 12 years (still 23). Yeah, some shit pops off (shooting at AMF Bowling), but compare that to DC or NYC (cops is majority of that). We mild as shit. You gotta look at it like violence is everywhere, but what's the less of the evils.
3rd, in response to people being pushed outta DC living here, I strongly disagree. Older people that lived in the slums in DC or neighboring ghettos move up in the world and get blessed enough to buy a house in a suburb (me and my moms case). But other people are older and can't afford no other living outside DC where "Concerned Parent" would buy a house for twice what it's worth instead of just rasing ya kids right, investing in that tool (no pun) if you gotta, throwing alarms on ya shit, making good with ya neighbors so y'all watch each other backs, etc. Then there are cases where kids in the suburbs get 18 and wish to move out for whatever reason, and the cheapest and most metro accessible housing/apartments is in DC, so they move there. I think it's kinda like a cycle of living rather than being herded around like THEY did the Native Americans.
4th, I don't treat anyone on here like a herb, square, whatever you call it where u from because i don't know y'all face to face. All I do is state facts and opinions (mostly facts) and try to respect even those lacking in knowledge, except for the Stans and that bullshit Stan-ly reunion that post from time to time. So dont take it like I'm talking down, homie.
Anybody been there or add to that?
Posted by: Knowledge at July 16, 2007 2:58 PM
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First off Knowledge..I checked your site out, and I'm feeling your movement and want to get involved. I'll be in touch with you from my email address off of here.
Regarding Austin...I'm about an hour and a half south here in San Antonio. Have driven through it a couple times...that's about it. I can tell you it's beautiful...that's about it though. lol
Holla at me if you need anything from these parts..I might be able to get a hand on it. I got some connections up there in Austin.
SHALOM!
PZ
the one who attracts more people wins and 50 cent is that guy to do it
50 is appealing to all people, blacks asians whites ,mexicans and w/e he is true form of what rap artist should be
only thing i got problem with him is that he wore furs in the past and that sucks animals should not be harmed by rappers i'm vegegterian and that's the problem i got but other than that it's all good 50 i hope you see this
@Knowledge
Here is a link for your site:
http://cms.komen.org/komen/index.htm
They are heavily involved out here in San Antonio.
CHRIST BLESS!
PZ
That's real girly of you to add in insults when your trying to make a point.
Did I insult you in any way? No
Since your so smart what other stats or reports can a future homebuyer go by when looking for a house in another city. Let's just say I'm moving from across the country and I know nothing about the crime in the area I'm about to purchase a home in. What tools would I use to help me make a decision since all the media outlets and the government are "juking the stats" to make me believe I'm moving into a "so called" crime free area?
Posted by: Concerned Parent at July 16, 2007 3:07 PM
Oh boy, I really didn't think I was talking insults, but it is wat it is, i guess. Take it how you want, all I'm saying is don't let lil articles and bullshit half truths convince you that you are completely educated on something cuz most of them articles is written by folks who sit and read numbers all day and make assumptions and so-called "Educated Guesses". I spent half my life in the hood, the other half in the burbs. I didnt get killed, hooked up with no crime, gang-related, etc. I just had a real good PARENT (single parent family life is great aint it???). So be a real good CONCERNED PARENT, ok, but be a FULLY EDUCATED PARENT too.
^^^^ By the way, I only insult stans and those who choose to insult me......YUP!!!
I am really proud of you young men today. While many of you have resorted to name calling the fact remains that you are having a very intelligent debated. I've just been taking it all in as I get breaks here and there and I am very impressed.
we are all sick and tired of seeing ugly ass fat niggas with no necks on tv rapping abuot how cool they are THEY AIN'T COOL
g-unit is the real coolest they fit they can rap they got amazing beats they got flow they appeal to ladies cause they got styles and images
and i'm not talking about Yayo and any motherfucking toysoldiers on g-unit they suck and need to get the fuck outta The Unit cause they are the ones that made the G-Unit look bad for a minute
now EVERYONE AGREES THAT GUNIT NEED TO GO BACK TO BEING A 3-MEN GROUP(FIDDY, LLOYD BANKS , YOUNG BUCK)
GGGGGGG-UNIT!
FUCC THE EAST!
NIGGAS MAD CAUSE OF T.I.'S 1ST WEEK RECORD SELLS.
I WONDER IF U NIGGAS SAID THE SAME THING ABOUT ALL THE MONEY POURED INTO GAY-Z'S PROJECT LAST YEAR? DOUBT IT!
THIS Y I RIDE ON U BITCH ASS NIGGAS. U MOFOS SOME ALL-AMERICAN HATERS.PUSSIES!
SOUFF IN THIS BITCH...RUNNING SHIT SENSE 2000. 7 YEARS BITCHS!
WE ON YALL RADIO AND U GETS NO PLAY DOWN HERE.......LOL. PUSSIES!
I am really proud of you young men today. While many of you have resorted to name calling the fact remains that you are having a very intelligent debated. I've just been taking it all in as I get breaks here and there and I am very impressed.
Posted by: Bird at July 16, 2007 3:24 PM
This is what happens when I moderate the discussion. Oh and when BKB and PZ be Ease.
Take it how you want, all I'm saying is don't let lil articles and bullshit half truths convince you that you are completely educated on something cuz most of them articles is written by folks who sit and read numbers all day and make assumptions and so-called "Educated Guesses". I spent half my life in the hood, the other half in the burbs. I didnt get killed, hooked up with no crime, gang-related, etc. I just had a real good PARENT (single parent family life is great aint it???). So be a real good CONCERNED PARENT, ok, but be a FULLY EDUCATED PARENT too.
Posted by: Jaysiatic at July 16, 2007 3:21 PM
I didn't ask for your life story I asked the question about what tools should people use if we can't trust stats from the media and government?
Posted by: Concerned Parent at July 16, 2007 3:07 PM
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I feel ya...alot of folks believe that "THEY" (use white folks) are the puppet masters managing this whole creation down to the detail in an effort to destabalize the black race and keep them down for ever and ever and ever and ever and ever.
At least now I've figured out who "they" is. Everybody always says "well they said this" or "they said", so the "THEY" is the almighty white man??
Good LAWD it's absurd. OZ was just a movie... LOL Or maybe he does exist, it's just I'm blind to it because I'm a white man, so I can't never understand.
The only "THEY" is THOSE with the money and then those that don't have it. It's all about them dolla dolla bills ya'll.
@Jay
On another note...did you get the beats I sent you?
I am really proud of you young men today. While many of you have resorted to name calling the fact remains that you are having a very intelligent debated. I've just been taking it all in as I get breaks here and there and I am very impressed.
Posted by: Bird at July 16, 2007 3:24 PM
me too
I WONDER IF U NIGGAS SAID THE SAME THING ABOUT ALL THE MONEY POURED INTO GAY-Z'S PROJECT LAST YEAR? DOUBT IT!
Posted by: TEXXXAS
All WHAT money??? He took a bunch of songs leftover from The Black Album, maybe added artists to the mix like Ne-Yo and dropped it and still went Platinum. TIP gets 30 mill for a budget and will only go like 1.7...... do the math, if you can.
"You aint my crew, who are you??? Beat it!!!"
G-Dep, "Let's Get It"
Posted by: Jaysiatic at July 16, 2007 3:21 PM
I didn't ask for your life story I asked the question about what tools should people use if we can't trust stats from the media and government?
Posted by: Concered Parent at July 16, 2007 3:31 PM
When your done tap dancing will you answer my question?
I didn't ask for your life story I asked the question about what tools should people use if we can't trust stats from the media and government?
Posted by: Concered Parent at July 16, 2007 3:31 PM
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You can do eenie meenie miney moe, or rock paper scissors. LOL
Or you can just throw your hands up, and give up..or not try, and then blame it on the fact that the media and the government skew all the facts.
See there...now you got me concerned too.
Signed,
PZ, the other concerned parent
Seriously though...I got a question, and it plays off logic.
If everything is a big play against the black race by the white race, where would that put me and my family? Wouldn't the white race hate me more for tryin to "inter-mingle" with the black race, and shouldn't I face as much if not more opposition than the black man. I mean, if the whole thing is geared towards keeping the black man down, wouldn't I be considered a traitor, as even less than the black man.
What ya'll think? From that perspective, it makes senese to me. I know I would hate a traitor worse than my enemy...right?
If everything is a big play against the black race by the white race, where would that put me and my family? Wouldn't the white race hate me more for tryin to "inter-mingle" with the black race, and shouldn't I face as much if not more opposition than the black man. I mean, if the whole thing is geared towards keeping the black man down, wouldn't I be considered a traitor, as even less than the black man.
What ya'll think? From that perspective, it makes senese to me. I know I would hate a traitor worse than my enemy...right?
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 3:41 PM
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ever heard of thomas jefferson?
brooklyn stand up!!!
@ PZ:
They isn't meant to mean "white folks".... I DO know how to say Whites, white folks, etc. "THEY" in this sense was s'posed to mean those no good real estate brokers, agents, and the like who take the statistics given by the government obtained through legal surveys and population counts, and THEY flip it to manipulate people for the better of the real estate business. A lot similar to the way "THEY" use corny ringtone songs, songs with bullshit content, and dance crazes to manipulate consumers into thinking what is real/fake hip-hop. The reason behind THEY is because Tool said somewhere up there that he is in real estate. But on that note, a lot of real estate brokers in my area are White, just FYI. And no I didn't get the songs...... razhai@aol.com
@ Concerned Parent:
Refer to @ PZ. I aint saying don't listen to the gov. I'm saying a lot of people put out b.s. to manipulate consumers like yourself (seemingly) by posing as someone having ties to the government with a title and name of an organization that sound legit as hell, but might not be nothing more than someone in conjunction with a real estate company, not saying they don't work for who they work for, but saying they getting paid to twist the info up to get you twisted up. If a nigga who been there and done that aint better info than some article..... no comment.
"It takes a wise man to learn from somebody else's experiences."
Jaysiatic- SOHH NYC 7-16-07
You can do eenie meenie miney moe, or rock paper scissors. LOL
Or you can just throw your hands up, and give up..or not try, and then blame it on the fact that the media and the government skew all the facts.
See there...now you got me concerned too.
Signed,
PZ, the other concerned parent
Seriously though...I got a question, and it plays off logic.
If everything is a big play against the black race by the white race, where would that put me and my family? Wouldn't the white race hate me more for tryin to "inter-mingle" with the black race, and shouldn't I face as much if not more opposition than the black man. I mean, if the whole thing is geared towards keeping the black man down, wouldn't I be considered a traitor, as even less than the black man.
What ya'll think? From that perspective, it makes senese to me. I know I would hate a traitor worse than my enemy...right?
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 3:41 PM
ever heard of thomas jefferson?
brooklyn stand up!!!
Posted by: Brooklyn b at July 16, 2007 3:48 PM
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Yeah...what's your point? Let's not patty cake, state your point..in a complete thought from beginning to end. Don't leave room for intepretation, then when someone doesn't interpret it how you meant it then it is that other person's fault. I think me and you went down that road in the beginning.
So what is the point you are tryin to make, or is there one?
@Jay
Oh ok...the only place it caught my attention was in your THEY when it referred to herding native americans. I'll send them beats tonight if I remember.
If everything is a big play against the black race by the white race, where would that put me and my family? Wouldn't the white race hate me more for tryin to "inter-mingle" with the black race, and shouldn't I face as much if not more opposition than the black man. I mean, if the whole thing is geared towards keeping the black man down, wouldn't I be considered a traitor, as even less than the black man.
What ya'll think? From that perspective, it makes senese to me. I know I would hate a traitor worse than my enemy...right?
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 3:41 PM
PZ,
honestly, the typical right wing, aryan white supremacist would want Ur head on a platter 4 cross breeding, but it has become somewhat the norm these days, me personally, I used 2 get upset ceeing a sister holding hands with a white boy, thinking, "she woulda been better off with me" but it is what it is, un4tunately, not everyone is acceptive of that, but as long as U & Ur wife R happy 2gether, that's the only thing that matters.
P.S. That also means U're no longer considered white.....Brother!
LOL
Yeah...what's your point? Let's not patty cake, state your point..in a complete thought from beginning to end. Don't leave room for intepretation, then when someone doesn't interpret it how you meant it then it is that other person's fault. I think me and you went down that road in the beginning.
So what is the point you are tryin to make, or is there one?
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all ways assuming.........
was thomas jefferson considered a traitor. its just that simple. you aint the first person to have kids outside your race.
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!!
If everything is a big play against the black race by the white race, where would that put me and my family? Wouldn't the white race hate me more for tryin to "inter-mingle" with the black race, and shouldn't I face as much if not more opposition than the black man. I mean, if the whole thing is geared towards keeping the black man down, wouldn't I be considered a traitor, as even less than the black man.
What ya'll think? From that perspective, it makes senese to me. I know I would hate a traitor worse than my enemy...right?
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 3:41 PM
I see why BKB argue with you a lot..... Ok, everything isn't "black being kicked around by white, so lets get em", at least not for me. But I'm not gonna ignore the fact that there are a lot of crooked politicians (the majority of whom are Whites) who fuck interns, committ adultery/ cheat on they wives of many years, and STILL can't run the got damn country because they focused on they own folks (not saying other Whites, but the other people that is close to them) getting even more ahead of the minorities. In short, there are a lot of politicians (most of whom are White) who treating runnning the country as if it where a business, with the rich getting richer, eeven though they salary is guaranteed to them when they get in office. Not even getting on those who may have racist intentions. Same for Black politicians (i.e. Black Republicans), but they like a small percentage compared to Whites. I respect everybody as a whole, fuck White women the same way I fuck Black women (never from the back though), so dont throw me in no Black POWER!!!! parade, champ. Right is right and wrong is wrong to me, Black or White.
Signed,
Jaysiatic for President in 2008
P.S. That also means U're no longer considered white.....Brother!
LOL
Posted by: Dre Guevara at July 16, 2007 3:57 PM
lol. Okay I'll play black for now, but when the Revolution starts believe you me, I'm falling back on my whiteness to save my ass
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 3:41 PM
Posted by: THIS GUY USE HIS KIDS AS GHETTO PASSES at July 16, 2007 3:55 PM
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LOL! It wouldn't work...my kids look white.
@Dre
We like the United Nations in my family. My baby's with my wife (and her sister) are black and white, I got a son with a female from El Salvador, and my stepson's dad is mixed with Asian and Mexican. According to this clown that said I use my kids as ghetto passes, then I got passes in every hood all over the world. LOL
Seriously, I love nothing more than to see an older interracial couple, and when I say older...I'm talking 60s and 70s. Now THAT is a real love right there, because everything about how they was brought up was against that...yet that love was stronger than any hate they experienced or where taught. Them is the ones I would want to sit around and listen to them tell stories.
@PZ
Thanks man. Any support for the cause would be great. I'll check out that link a little later too. I have to work on this real estate investment proposal tho.
@Everyone else
Take a look if you get a chance. I'm just trying to do something positive for all those personally and peripherally affected.
Also, the refers to those in positions of power and influence. Most of them are white, although now its becoming a much more monetary issue. However, even Danny Glover in a business suit can't get a cab. My mom's boyfriend a CEO of a major staffing firm still gets pulled over for driving a BMW, so race is still in effect.
I can break down the "THEY" conspiracies more later on if that is still a topic of debate.
Signed,
Jaysiatic for President in 2008
Posted by: Jaysiatic at July 16, 2007 4:04 PM
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Now you see i dont just be buggin
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
@Jay
Oh ok...the only place it caught my attention was in your THEY when it referred to herding native americans. I'll send them beats tonight if I remember.
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 3:56 PM
Well, the whites in the government at the time (in those days, i believe Blacks were unable to vote, let alone be politicians) still worked with whomever was in real estate at that time to find the Native Americans "suitable" lands for reservations. Why do you think NA's reservations is in like New Mexico, Wyoming, places that is all mountains and forests, while you and me is in developable lands???
I read this blog everyday and I have never felt compelled to respond. I am a 27 yr old professional female who enjoys hip hop and is a devout Christian. I know most of the time the blogs focus on the same 5 people going at it about their personal views. But I'm really feeling it. No I'm not here to preach (although I am an ordained minister) What I really want to say is keep speaking. I find it refresing that you all can come to this blog everyday with something noteworthy. Although I may not agree with every post. I feel good logging off. It is a constant reminder that we are still alive. We see what is happening in our communities, on the airwaves, and across the world and we have something to say about it. Although mainstream media paints us as a culture that is dormant and detached you all continue to refute those claims.
BTW...50 runs New York that's why we expect him to do greater numbers than TI. He is the biggest name in rap we expect him to do big numbers. Can's allow a skinny dude from the south to out do him!!!
Right is right and wrong is wrong to me, Black or White.
Signed,
Jaysiatic for President in 2008
Posted by: Jaysiatic at July 16, 2007 4:04 PM
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That's right, and it's that simple!
But naw...me and Brooklyn B go back and forth cuz he's one of them conspiracy theorist who believes creation exists around "keep the black man down" and I don't stand for that nonsense. Then he got beef with Christianity when he don't even know what it's about..and I don't stand for the silly talk on that either.
Like I said, I caught onto that "THEY" reference you made and that's what I was talkin about. It's all good...so long as you agree that right is right, and wrong is wrong...we can definetly build together. I agree with everything you said too..and I'll add that I believe it is because of the corruption of man kind from the beginning.
Let's just get a few things out on the table.
1. Black Americans are the only race on God's green earth who "freely" vote for one political party.
2. Be it financially or physically, if a Black sees another Black getting his ass whooped, he'll just see a Black getting his ass whooped.
Welfare has absolutely DESTROYED the Black family. Why do Black women need men to raise their kids when the GUBMENT is giving out "free" money? So, until the day welfare is eliminated, Blacks will always be dependant on the GUBMENT. Until that day, Blacks will ALWAYS envy those who are more affluent.
Before desegregation, Black neighborhoods were vibrant with great schools and businesses. Now what do we have? Failing schools and "legitimate" businesses that fold within 2 to 3 years of opening.
And with all the problems going on with Black folks, if I hear another Black artist talk about global warming, I'm gonna snap!!!!!
@ Goodiva:
If you noticed, we haven't had a stan invasion today. The convo is generally good when the stans get let out of SOHH on vacation.
Seriously, I love nothing more than to see an older interracial couple, and when I say older...I'm talking 60s and 70s. Now THAT is a real love right there, because everything about how they was brought up was against that...yet that love was stronger than any hate they experienced or where taught. Them is the ones I would want to sit around and listen to them tell stories.
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 4:05 PM
My aunt and uncle are in their 70s. Of course my uncle is black and my aunt is white. They are each other's second marraige, but they have been married for over 30 years now. They are cool with the exes two as they have children wit them.
But naw...me and Brooklyn B go back and forth cuz he's one of them conspiracy theorist who believes creation exists around "keep the black man down" and I don't stand for that nonsense. Then he got beef with Christianity when he don't even know what it's about..and I don't stand for the silly talk on that either.
Like I said, I caught onto that "THEY" reference you made and that's what I was talkin about. It's all good...so long as you agree that right is right, and wrong is wrong...we can definetly build together. I agree with everything you said too..and I'll add that I believe it is because of the corruption of man kind from the beginning.
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 4:12 PM
1ST off
i know about christianity unlike you PZ i dont speak on opinion
and the reason why we get at it is because you like talking about things you dont know (ie the plights of a blackman).
you saying theres no racism, theres no conspiracy when it comes to black people (ie bush signed the bill for blacks to vote for another 25 years, when does white people voting rights exp.)
you wanna talk about or figure out shit that happens with black people and it comes off stupid.
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Dam, it really is so true, and you fags dont even shy away from it. All you do is hate on 50. It doesnt matter what it is, whether he is in the news, a new song, a video, all you do is fucking hate. Get a fucking life. I Get Money is the hottest song out in NY, number 1 on the countdowns, Angie, Flex, DJ Envy's top 20, the vid is all over the net. And its a fucking internet video, not an MTV, BET video, Interscope didnt even no 50 made this video, so he either used part of his budget to do it, or used his own money, ether way, you aint gonna spend mad money for an internet video. And the vid is hot as usual. But you fags only go after him, how many videos come out, yet I never see shit about anyone else's videos or anything. In another blog, someone said some dumb shit about 50 having more money to market his album than TI, but nobody said shit about when Jay spent 20 mill on marketing, but you bring up what 50 will spend. Your a fucking clown, and I come by this site to see shit every now and then, but these blogs really are gay, you are 16 year old white kids from the burbs woo think they know something about rap, shit I would hope you are 16, shit probably like 30 and shit. Get off 50's dick, face it, I think with Ams. Park and STTB, which werent bad songs, but they werent bangers, people thought he was done, so they started the hate, but now its like oh shit, he came crazy on this joint, which is the summer banger, which Flex, Angie, Mister Cee, Enuff, Envy, Slay, Whoo Kid and all the Hot 97 DJS keep saying is so crazy, its number 1 on all the countdown shows, Flex said the clubs are going crazy for it, that makes you mad, of course in another blog one fag made a joke about it not being the summer anthem, cause they cant give him any credit. But face it, 50 RUN NY, Runs the rap shit, when his album comes out and smashes this shit, what will you say then you fags.
Posted by: Skrait Niggnoranceâ„¢ at July 16, 2007 4:15 PM
I take it you live in a poor Black community???????
However, even Danny Glover in a business suit can't get a cab. My mom's boyfriend a CEO of a major staffing firm still gets pulled over for driving a BMW, so race is still in effect.
I can break down the "THEY" conspiracies more later on if that is still a topic of debate.
Posted by: Knowledge at July 16, 2007 4:06 PM
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No doubt brother, I'm definetly gonna be supporting.
Regarding the post above, I agree. Racism does still exist, and we gotta let it die. I've also been pulled over in my BMW by an old nerdy black cop, harrassed and ticketed for a license plate tail light...but really...it was because my black queen is prettier than his and it tore him up..cuz I'm a white man.
And regarding Danny Glover...that's a perfect example of how money talks. That brothers has got two movies he's about to be working on, completely financed by the Venezulean government. Money talks...regardless of principle.
But please believe me, I never deny that racism still exists..I just do not believe it is the driving force behind existence, like it was just 50 or 60 years ago. Not that we are where we need to be yet, but we are definetly far from where we were. Because ANY MAN OR WOMAN regardless of race or sex can get to where they wanna go. There are still obstacles to overcome, but now they are just hurdles. Soon they will be speed bumps, and then they will be gone all together. But not so long as we keep teaching our youth that racism is what makes the world go round.
1ST off
i know about christianity unlike you PZ i dont speak on opinion
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 4:20 PM
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You asked earlier why Jesus would hang himself on the cross.
BROOKLYN...SIT BACK DOWN!!
Posted by: Conte at July 16, 2007 4:20 PM
You must be talking bout a Jay album a minute ago cuz he didn't spend 20 mill on Kingdom Come. I doubt he spent 10 on it. The statement is true though, 50 is gonna spend more than TIP on marketing (who the hell cares by the way, get $$$$), but 50 also got a better label and more of his own $$$$ to work with, if nec. I say the day 50 dies in this rap shit is the day 50 dies, but until that day comes, I refuse to speculate (i.e. RECKLESS) and "That's all I got 2 say about that!!!!)
(ie bush signed the bill for blacks to vote for another 25 years, when does white people voting rights exp.)
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 4:20 PM
What do you mean by that? Where did you see that?
You asked earlier why Jesus would hang himself on the cross.
BROOKLYN...SIT BACK DOWN!!
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 4:27 PM
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no Mr i read what i want
i said that because the question was if the blackman is god why would he let the whiteman have him in slavery
stop with the picking and choosin' and read the whole comment if you dont overstand then ask
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
(ie bush signed the bill for blacks to vote for another 25 years, when does white people voting rights exp.)
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 4:20 PM
What do you mean by that? Where did you see that?
Posted by: Bird at July 16, 2007 4:28 PM
Publicity stunt/rumor/early ass campaign smear
You asked earlier why Jesus would hang himself on the cross.
BROOKLYN...SIT BACK DOWN!!
Posted by: PZ at July 16, 2007 4:27 PM
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no Mr i read what i want
i said that because the question was if the blackman is god why would he let the whiteman have him in slavery
stop with the picking and choosin' and read the whole comment if you dont overstand then ask
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
(ie bush signed the bill for blacks to vote for another 25 years, when does white people voting rights exp.)
Posted by: Brooklyn B at July 16, 2007 4:20 PM
What do you mean by that? Where did you see that?
Posted by: Bird at July 16, 2007 4:28 PM
Publicity stunt/rumor/early ass campaign smear
Posted by: Jaysiatic at July 16, 2007 4:32 PM
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Also Known As
PROPOGANDA
@Brooklyn B
Ok...so you know why Jesus hung himself on the cross. So then answer the original question asked to you...that you so gracefully tap danced around and answered by asking that question.
Are you saying that there is a comparison in beliefs? If so...speak on it.
we are all sick and tired of seeing ugly ass fat niggas with no necks on tv rapping abuot how cool they are THEY AIN'T COOL
g-unit is the real coolest they fit they can rap they got amazing beats they got flow they appeal to ladies cause they got styles and images
and i'm not talking about Yayo and any motherfucking toysoldiers on g-unit they suck and need to get the fuck outta The Unit cause they are the ones that made the G-Unit look bad for a minute
now EVERYONE AGREES THAT GUNIT NEED TO GO BACK TO BEING A 3-MEN GROUP(FIDDY, LLOYD BANKS , YOUNG BUCK)
GGGGGGG-UNIT!
Posted by: igetmoney at July 16, 2007 3:26 PM
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completely agreed
I used 2 get upset ceeing a sister holding hands with a white boy, thinking, "she woulda been better off with me" but it is what it is, un4tunately, not everyone is acceptive of that.
Posted by: Dre Guevara at July 16, 2007 3:57 PM
^^^^^^^^^
...and you think that shyt is cool!?
That shyt is not cool homie, that's not cool, sisters should always stick with the brothers, not with the white boys, that shyt is not cool.
This is what I mean. All we talk about is how other Blacks get money. As per the creation of this web site and sites like this one, we've turned into fortune tellers. We can gaze into our magical crystal balls and know absolutely how much artists spend on promotion, how many unit they're gonna push, ect....ect. The point is that at the end of the day, while the world is spinning, we've basically discussed nothing.
And why am I here then? Hell, I love HIP HOP. I love music. Hopefully, before my time is up, I'll see at least one day where Black folks have broken the bonds of GUBMENT dependacy. That's all I'm asking for. Even if it's on a HIP HOP gossip web site.
@everybody:
You fuck all this lame ignorant talk blaming white people for all the problems in the world. Because there's only one color that matters and that's green. Get money and you can buy your way out of almost any situation. Don't nobody owe you shit so you got take what you want in this life. Stop complaining and get your hustle on and stop begging for a handout!!!!
lololo reckless only hates on 50 to get hits on his blogs simple. yall fall for it everytime.
i got to go to the gym now. see
ya
ps. im buying 5 copies of curtis whenever it drops.
SOUFF IN THIS BITCH RIDING ON U BITCH ASS NIGGAS.
GOT U NIGGAS TRYING TO SOUND LIKE US.
I WISH U NIGGAS WOULD GO BACK TO SOME DAS EFX OR WU TANG.
NIGGAS KNOW WHAT IT IS........WE ALL ON YALL RADIO AND U GETS NO PLAY DOWN HERE.PUSSIES!
OH YEA, WAYNE WOULD MURK GAY Z. "I GOT MYSELF A GUN" WAS A WEAK DISS RECORD. NAS RAPED HIM.
WE DONT HAVE TO STAND UP WE ALREADY STANDING........SOUFF
Big Sun I agree with most of the things U said. If not all. I just wish U could've said them when Kid n Play was "cooning" as U put it. Or when the LOX were "gettin jiggy wit it" or even when puff had niggas doin the "harlem shake". The reason I say this is because people weren't sooo digusted with all the dancin until NY cats wasn't the ones makin up the dances. I remember A time when there was concious rap, gangsta rap, and party rap and it all played on the radio at the same time.(And by the way hip hop was first started 2 rock parties"yeah makin people dance" AND " 2 let the world know what was goin on in the hood." Like I said, I agree with U but don't be so outraged now by the "snap dance" movement when it was all good when NY rappers were basically "cooning" as U put it back in the day. If it was all good then what's the problem now? The region maybe?
Big Sun I agree with most of the things U said. If not all. I just wish U could've said them when Kid n Play was "cooning" as U put it. Or when the LOX were "gettin jiggy wit it" or even when puff had niggas doin the "harlem shake". The reason I say this is because people weren't sooo digusted with all the dancin until NY cats wasn't the ones makin up the dances. I remember A time when there was concious rap, gangsta rap, and party rap and it all played on the radio at the same time.(And by the way hip hop was first started 2 rock parties"yeah makin people dance" AND " 2 let the world know what was goin on in the hood." Like I said, I agree with U but don't be so outraged now by the "snap dance" movement when it was all good when NY rappers were basically "cooning" as U put it back in the day. If it was all good then what's the problem now? The region maybe?
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