50 Talks Kanye: "Jay's not gonna let that happen." Plus, Jim Says He and Cam Grew Apart, Kool Herc Holds the Title

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50 has had his album pushed back not once, but twice. And now, Kanye West has decided to go head-to-head with 50 on September 11th.

During an interview with Funk Flex on Hot 97, 50 began running off at the mouth when asked about him dropping on the same day as 'Ye:

"It's coming September 11th. I'm not moving nowhere. September 11th is the day, and I'm not pushing it back under any circumstances... I hope that they see and understand what's getting ready to happen. I'm not movin... If Kanye come that day he come that day. I mean, that will be great if he actually stays on that day. I think these people are smart. I think he's smart, too. And I think they'll move. But I'm coming September 11th. Jay's not gonna let that happen anyway."

If Graduation ends up overruling Curtis, then 50 should go ahead and kill himself, because he'll never live it out.
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Jim Jones sat down with MTV and finally filled in the blanks regarding the confusion between him and Cam'ron. They may still be boys to the death, but in the meantime they've both taken different routes:

"There was a little disruption going on in there, but it's still Diplomats by all means," Jim Jones said. "That's what that's all about, it ain't got to do with nothing else. It's about two brothers feuding, and brothers do feud, you can't take that [away]. I know brothers that go through it tremendously, even scrap. You know the media always look for something to pick on...I know if you seen me and Cam, wherever you seen Cam, you seen Jim Jones. But like I said, everybody gets older and sometimes best friends do grow apart as the time goes on, but you never know what could happen.


Then he went on to express interest in recording with... Nas.

"There's probably one person I wouldn't do a song with, and that's probably Jay[-Z]. I really ain't got no taste for that right there. That's not my side of the fence and that's not my speed. [However,for the other MCs]...I'm with it. You can bring your crew, I can bring my crew, we'll lock in the studio. That goes for 50, that goes for Nas, that goes for anybody."

Too bad Nas will never do a song with this dude in this lifetime or in the afterlife. And was "not my speed" a self-downgrade?
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Looks like DJ Kool Herc holds the title... and after July 23, it will probably be forever.

Three months after The Bronx's top-dog hip-hop pioneer expressed dissaproval and concern for the planned 1520 Sedgwick Avenue takeover, the New York State Office of Parks Recreation and Historic Preservation is approving a July 2nd application to make this address eligible to become a national historic landmark, since the site "meets the eligiblity criteria being that it is associated with events that have made a significant contribution to the broad patterns of our history."

A press conference will be held by organizers at 1520 Sedgwick Avenue in The Bronx on Monday, July 23 at 9:30am. Also recognizing the site will be the National Register of Historic Places.
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Two words: Poor Prodigy

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I’M GOING IN… IN NY TERMS THAT MEANS I BOUT TO BLAST OFF ON SOME SPACE SHIP SHIT, IF YOU AIN’T READY FOR IT AND HATE TO READ LONG POSTS REGAURDLESS OF WHAT’S BEING SAID HEALTHY OR NOT, DON’T EVEN BOTHER TO GO ANY FURTHER.

I was just in Philly for two days and I was peeping the new XXL with 50 who seems to always be on the cover; anyways he goes on in the article about how Nas is always reading and that made him “weird”. Shit made me laugh at first because that sounded like dumb connery shit I expect out of 50 anyways, but I thought about it and realized that this was a common consensus amongst our people. I mean I’ve always been a reader even on street corners and not Source magazines I mean Baldwin, Fanon, and Hughes. I don’t know how many times I’ve smoked an L and talked philosophy with my constituents and not the average “whose the best emcee” convo. The hustling wasn’t done because it was what we wanted to do it was done because some of us were paying the electric bill, or our mothers couldn’t do the rent by themselves; that didn’t make us dumb nor were we glamorizing the street life it was what it was. Today it seems like the notion of a person attempting to better themselves by manner of education is shunned. I am convinced that Gill Scott was correct when he said that the revolution would not televised, why… because niggas would be watching. Any attempts at a revolt would be stopped by laziness and lack of library card, revolution is not in your music, the LOX will not liberate you, 50 will not change your community and most of you will say it’s not their responsibility, but shouldn’t the people who contribute and help perpetuate the problems of the community be responsible for attempting to fix it. Tired of seeing these same mf’s at stop the violence rallies with their fast food rap (get it quick, not good for you, sells the most). I mean I listen to Common sense and it seems to me that Hip Hop can be done without genocidal lyrics and in true ESPN fashion he’s now, revolution needs to happen now; you need to educate the streets now; get the fuck out of your cubical and plan to escape despair in the form of every corner liquor stores, White T dope boys, Bling Bling, heartless relationships, and coon video channels. And FUCK Debra Lee and the whole BET staff. Don’t give me the balance argument; there is no balance in Hop Hop we can’t afford to be hypocritical anymore, the music is so strong it will change the weak. Aren’t you angry? Don’t you hate your Job? Aren’t you tired of the bullshit Music, the stereo typing? I’m fueled by the injustices in my community, in Philly in Camden, the South Side of Chicago, LA, Atl. WTF? You ain’t sick of this shit? And fuck it if this is too long for you to read and it’s too much to think about, I’m not being too intense YOU NEED TO BE MORE INTENSE, I’m not some cubical revolutionary, the world is my office, Brooklyn’s my home base and my son will take on the business of setting the minds of people on fire with the truth when I expire. If your positive I know it seems like your by yourself but I once looked out of project staircase windows and planned my escape. I ain’t asking you to do more than talk some sense into the person who looks at you and listens. You ain’t gotta listen to me if you disagree with me Fuck me, get your shit together, don’t disagree with me on parts of this shit, listen to the spirit of revolution that surrounds what I am saying to you and agree, period. Stop cooning and throw your fuckin fist up. The reign of the dumb nigga is over.

Big Sun ma bruda, ur posts are always fuckin' excellent. U really should open up an account on Blogspot n do summin.
My only gripe with your comment duke....PLEASE USE PARAGRAPHS!!!! Everything else is 1 hunned

Damn Why doesn't Big Sun have a blog on Sohh instead of fools like reckless? I agree with you 100% my nigga.

For the record I never have n never will feel any of Kanye's shit.
The only track I liked of Kanye's was when Talib was part of Rawkus n did the track 'Good To You'. Other than that, I think Kanye's gay. Not gay as in "I don't like him" but GAY as in he cuts his ass hole open with his newest CD so he can grab a cheap thrill off an empty Pepsi bottle. Sure he might have conscious rap, but I just feels he caters more to the white audience so parents can go " I bought my son dat Kanye CD n I ended up loving him". He's just a mommy's boy. It doesn't matter how good his flow is. Being true 2 urself n not being racist, ask urself how many white kids u know have a kanye west album. Fuck whether u like 50 or not, ASK URSELF HONESTLY, HOW MANY WHITE KIDS U KNOW HAVE A KANYE WEST ALBUM???
It's funny how all the people that scream hip-hop is dead are people dat like Kanye (gay), Wayne, (incest n tongue kisser), Game (4get tatooes n shit, brudda just a plain dick rider) Jeezey (constipated flow) etc. Dat 2 me is hilarious.
I prolly will cop dat Curtis on September 11th or I might bootleg it first 2 c how it goes, but in all honesty at least I know I'm gonna get some banging beats wid some new tracks. N I guess I'm just curious if Fif does it good on dis album. If he does a track wid Jim Jones b4 the album drops dat would be a good look 4 him.
I got high hopes for Pap this year (even though his track with snoop was just pure doo doo butter) n hopefully Uncle Murder, Crooked I n Tha Realest do summin this year 2 get a buzz goin, rather than listening 2 what the masses say. Coz if right now Kanye's catering 2 everyone n all their types of music (like Timberland) doesn't that make him commercial????
Dats another thought to think about, all the peeps mentioning "real" hip hop have artists blowing up the MAINSTREAM charts, so explain 2 me what da fuck is real hip-hop??? All these so-called mainstream artists are the truth huh. Well my nation of music lovers.....prove it.

a jim jones-nas track? for the people that think that would never happen and that jim is all about beef, he's actually talking about peace. that's a real surprise there.

Big Sun
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Well said as usual my brotha. My hands are clean on this one. 50 has never made a red cent off of me and I am a reformed ghetto chick who mentors young sistas.
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Gho$t Immortal
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Unfortunately this new format doesn't support paragraphs. I try to get creative with it myslef, but it still looks crazy.
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I have been wishing for a Community Development blog or something to that effect as well, but I just don't see it happening here. The powers that be need our ignorance on a wide scale so that people like 50 and Jay-Z can keep making them money.

No doubt. You brothers and sisters are speaking the treuth. It's refreshing to see more conscious people expressing their disapproval for this nonsense of a modern-day minstrel show on BET, MTV, VH1 and others. If you love hip hop, then by no means should you be supporting the jiggabooin' going on right now. Peace and blessings!

www.myspace.com/southcrak

go listen

@Big Sun

Genius my nigga, Genius

We as a people need to read more, A nigga's worst fear is the police, child support, and War and Peace.

I will never knock Kanye West....unless he french kisses a dude like Weezy did. But Ye breathed back life into Common's career...and for that u have to give dude respect. Common one of the last good MC's left.

As for Fif....yeah he'll probably beat ye's numbers.

I hope Nas never embarasses himself by doing a song with Jimmy. I guess 50 destroyed the Dips too.

Jim Jones is right that he cant keep up with Jay-Z...at last he admitted the truth.

lastly, Jay-Z needs 2 do a duet album with beyonce. that will be hot...f7k wot you think.

Gho$t immortal if you didn't feel"This can't be life" and "through the wire" than it is you who is gay...and not Kanye.

Kanye brought one of the most refreshing sounds to hip hop since Dr.Dre.

Pharoahe Monch -Desire.....period.

Muthaphuka that shit is not even on his Myspace page.....damn niggaz are turning into the "new bitches" this era.....hatin' and spreading bullshit like hoes in a hair salon....also, why do niggaz insist Kanye's gay? They showed the nigga posing in a photo not too long ago with his WIFE!

Besides "Can't Tell Me Nothing" is the hottest song I heard off Mr West, cd the rest is bullshit pop. Curtis has "I Get Money" "Fully Loaded Clip" " Straight To The Bank" and I'm sure more joints so i will be picking up 3 copies of Curtis and no copies of Graduation since I haven't bought a Ye cd since College Dropout. The UNIT Bitch

Fuck, if 50 does outsell Kanye, Ima have to hear all these stans say "See, my nigga 50 is killin em. He's untouchable." They're too ignorant to recognize real music. All they want to hear is "shoot a nigga and get some money." The lyrics to Can't Tell Me Nothing are some of the most thought provoking lines I've heard from rap recently.

Btw, Big Sun, that 'novel' was the truth. I just finished reading the Autobiography of Malik Shabazz (Malcolm X) and I think if half of these rap niggas read it, they will make more conscious rap. Instead we have ignorant Mr Bojangles laughing at another man for reading.

Smh, "I'm moving to Canada"
PEACE

Big Sun, I have to give it to you that was a good read. Have you ever considered journalism? I agree with you though , the media has people stuck on stupid.

i guess its easier to destroy your people then build them up.


50 out selling kanye?? if that happen then that soul plane movies the bomb

Kanye is a musical genius, fif is going down this time. ghost immortal is pus sy! ask ur self how many white ppl have fifty cent albums dumbass da hood dont by dat shit. u gotta be a hater or homo to hate on kanye west hes one of da few niggas keeping good hip hop in da mainstream.

DEF SOUNDS! defsounds.com!
Best Hip hop blog out...SOHH is full of biased dumb shits.

DEF SOUNDS! defsounds.com!
Best Hip hop blog out...SOHH is full of biased dumb shits.

Reckless still writing this? First off 50 got pushed back because he was trying to LEAVE Interscope. He CHOSE to not release the album because other labels were trying to offer him 100 million dollars for 4 albums (go to sites who actually keep track of this shit to get proof). He was trying to force Interscope to drop him or to let him buy out his contract. He doesn't like Interscope anymore which is why he wants to drop a double CD to end the contract.

You people act like somebody hot came out and pushed him back? It doesn't matter though. He is doing this as a hobby. He doesn't need the money and can make more money touring, performing old songs than he would from releasing this album.

BIG SUN killed it!....I totally agree that today's struggle is more of a concious decison than it is a set of circumstances...I also agree that the media has branded us and sabotoged our self esteem with exagerrated statistics and negative opinions to the point where some of our weaker brothers have found refuge, comfort, and a good sense of identity being the media generated super bad black man that everyone fears. We do need to turn off our tv's and start thinking for ourselves.

Never coppin another Curtis album ever. (last gunit aftermath album I got was massacre) To me he represents ignorance at it's highest. Yea he's a smart buisness man. But after that come on he said NAS was weird because he "reads". Reading, it's weird to read now?. WOW!! And people let their children listen to this nigga. Everybody can't be a rapper/hustler. Somebody has to be educated enough to run buisnesses and operate on people. Talks bad about Chamillionaire because he made a choice not to cuss ( and not to be the stereotypical rapper) Said that since he was so righteous go make a fuckin religous album. Oh yeah and ghostface and master P (but he was already lame P that is). I will cop Ye's album because of what he represents as a person he's different. People are too Homophobic in the hiphop community. He's gay because he's not gangsta??? I don't follow these so called stars into their personal life so I could care less for what the do behind close doors. They're still people. I just want know when did this buisness become what people talked about instead of what the music made you feel?? There is no feeling behind this crap anymore I'm going to country joe lol. naaa still listening to find out if somethings good coming. UNO

Since Big Sun has set off the blog with some real world issues and educational thought. What is everyone's thought on the "Hate-Crimes" bill which is being pushed by certain congress members?

People keep talking about No Cents money. Hammer had money too. An ignorant crack baby can run through a few hundred mil in no time so No Cent is not set for life. He needs to work to maintain his lifestyle and jewelry habit. Not to mention the fact that Tha Man is probably ganking him for a few dollars too.
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Its sad that people are putting this crack baby on a pedistal, but I am confident the chickens will come home to roost for ole dude. Yes I am hating on him. His comments about reading were deplorable and I can no longer put shine on his supposed business savvy when he is content to drag down our youth with his utterly ridiculous statements that are broadcast to our community. He's a bitch and I'd pay cash money to see him beat down to within an inch of his life. Punk

@BIRD

I'LL PAY FOR YOU TO GET YOU TEETH FIXED

Big Sun that post was real talk right there. If you respect true lyrics go to www.myspace.com/ghanghiskhan. Listen to Get right or Get Left. We need 2 start doing instead of talking.

@ Gho$t Immortal

Ask yourself how many white folks copped "get rich or die trying"...What about Wu-Tang's "Forever" album? Dude when an artist goes platinum it's because white people are buying the albums. Truth be told if it wasn't for white folks hip-hop would have died a long time ago.

Big Sun, your comments were xactly on point! Gimme some paragraphs next time tho man.

Big Sun, your comments were xactly on point! Gimme some paragraphs next time tho man.

Greetings my brother.
I was born and raised in Amsterdam, the netherlands and what i see here on the streets is not much different from what you discribe. I am a child of black slave ancestors as well, they just sent our asses to Europe. It's the same difference though; we ain't got shit. Now i normally don't respond to blogs becouse i fail to see the relevance in most of them. But this one right here... :) it just makes me smile. I'm on the other side of the world but they did us the same and they gone keep doing it if we don't rise up. Revolution will not be televised because they own tv and radio and almost every media outlet except the internet( why i luv it). So we need to do exactly like you said.. get your books, light a blunt and educate your niggas on the street. Hell, educate anybody who wants to listen and everybody who does'nt. Just keep telling them that this shit ain't never over unless we stop it. Our great great great grandfathers could've been brothers... we don't even know their names but still:

We are all ONE.

Love and respect From Amsterdam,

Ashar Medina

50 CENT says...
@BIRD

I'LL PAY FOR YOU TO GET YOU TEETH FIXED

July 20, 2007 9:30 AM


Bird says...

That's alright Boo Boo my self image is not dictated by men who probably jack off all day long to pics of Beyonce. I am madly in love with myself. If you want to hook me up then give me some money for these bills and college money for my girls.

Hahaa. I agree with Big Sun 100 % and the above comment.

Everything moves in cycles based on the generations of youth growin older and a new generation of suckers becoming adolescents that industries prey on. The sociopolitical rap is comin back and in about 10 years it will be replaced by materialistic criminal rap again UNLESS we manage to wrestle control of our image from the mediators of communication!

Buy my album on iTunes and Rhapsody
You Suckers suckers suckers suckers....

IF I FIX YOUR TEETH THEN YOU CAN GET A JOB STRIPPING AND THAT WILL HELP YOU PAY FOR YOUR GIRLS TUITION & BOOKS AT DEVRY. OR IS IT HAIR SCHOOL

Bird says...

I am madly in love with myself. If you want to hook me up then give me some money for these bills and college money for my girls.

July 20, 2007 9:48 AM
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you tell him girl, im in love with myself too

bitch ass websites hating on 50, he 's rich, he has a label, a solo deal, various business ventures that make him alot of money, you look real bad hatin on a brother I like kanye too, but it's the normal a nigga got to much let's hate,and oh yeah, if your not willing to say something to somebody's face shut-up, straight up punks period, bitches behind closed doors. you know t.i moved his album back because they didn't want to take the chance that hanna montana would come in no.1, check the facts, if 50 fails he still will sell more than t.i. and alot of other rapppers you praise.

OR HOW ABOUT I GIVE YOU A YEAR SUPPLY OF VITAMIN WATER. IT WILL GIVE YOU THE ENERGY YOU NEED TO GET OFF YOU LAZY BLACK ASS AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOU LIFE INSTEAD OF BITCHING LIKE THAT NIGGA BIG SUN.

IF YOU CAN FEED YOUR FAMILY YOUR USELESS. YOU MIGHT AS WELL GO OFF AND KILL YOURSELF

SINCE YOUR MADLY IN LOVE WITH YOURSELF HOW ABOUT I BUY YOU A DILDO.

DO YOU CARE IF THE VITIMIN WATER LOGO IS ON IT?

Bird says...

I am madly in love with myself. If you want to hook me up then give me some money for these bills and college money for my girls.

July 20, 2007 9:48 AM
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yeah sista, i aint afraid to touch myself

Bird says...

I am madly in love with myself. If you want to hook me up then give me some money for these bills and college money for my girls.

July 20, 2007 9:48 AM
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im in love with myself to honey

@ BIRD

FUCK YOU BITCH. YOUR RIGHT YOU ARE A HATER. TALKING ABOUT HOW I'M GOING TO FUCK UP MY MONEY BITCH YOU CRAZY. HOW DO YOU THINK I GOT THAT MONEY FROM VITIMIN WATER. LET ME TELL YOU IT CALLED INVESTMENTS. YOU DUMB BITCH. I GOT OTHER INVESTMENTS GOING ON AS WELL. I'M NOT YOUR AVERAGE NIGGA. I WILL ALWAYS HAVE MONEY COMING IN, PLUS I WAS RICH BEFORE THAT VITIMIN WATER DEAL. I GOT CLOTHES, RECORD LABEL, VIDEO GAMES, ENDORSEMENTS, TOUR MONEY. GET OFF MY DICK

BEAT IT BEAT IT

- MICHAEL JACKSON

Bird says...

I am madly in love with myself. If you want to hook me up then give me some money for these bills and college money for my girls.

July 20, 2007 9:48 AM
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Oh, yeah i luv my self too, you have to have faith!

JIM JONES IS A MOTHERF*@KING HYPOCRITE. Time always reveals truth. He changing up how he feel all of sudden with his new found fame. Cut it out. What happen to smacking niggaz CUFI off and all that (NAS). I love Nas and Jay. I like Jimmy when he went at them with CAM. I'm a still ride with NAS AND JAY but JIM and CAM are funny as shit. I fucks with CAM. JIM how can you not side with your man. You's a F@$KBOY. Now you want to make music with the enemy, NAS and 50. I won't side with CAM over Nas and Jay, but I still like CAM and I value his INTEGRITY. JIM JONES you need to get some, and some LOYALTY while you at it. You's a sucka, you ain't ballin', JAY paid that in taxes. YOU RITE YOU AIN"T IN HIS LANE......................

No Cents Stan
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No matter how hard you ride his dick he ain't doin nothin for you dude. Go watch some TV and listen to a gangsta rap album like he said and shrink your brain even further. This conversation is too deep for the mentally retarded.

* Mr. 908 says...
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Since Big Sun has set off the blog with some real world issues and educational thought. What is everyone's thought on the "Hate-Crimes" bill which is being pushed by certain congress members?
* July 20, 2007 9:27 AM
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good topic. i don't like the hate crimes bill. Now they gonna jail my black a$$ coz i dont agree with homosexuality? cummon man...what happened to free thought. I dont hate gays...but their activities r disgusting..theres a difference. what next, i have to agree with beastiality and pedophilia?
Our moral rights are being discriminated against.

NwordFuneral says...

good topic. i don't like the hate crimes bill. Now they gonna jail my black a$$ coz i dont agree with homosexuality? cummon man...what happened to free thought. I dont hate gays...but their activities r disgusting..theres a difference. what next, i have to agree with beastiality and pedophilia?
Our moral rights are being discriminated against.

July 20, 2007 10:21 AM
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beastiality is LEGAL in VA
dog fighting is not

if Michael Vick was screwing his dog he wouldnt get in trouble

Bird says...

"He's a bitch and I'd pay cash money to see him beat down to within an inch of his life. Punk"

July 20, 2007 9:28 AM
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Now I am a 50 Cent fan, but by no means am I a Stan...but this was just a hating ass statement you made right there. It's fucked up how black people are so eager to see another black person's demise. *SMH*

As much as I can't stand like 75% of the rappers in the game (Mims for example), I never enjoy hearing about a rapper being slain, pushed back, kicked off of their label, etc.

Damn that shit just ruined my day...Thanks Bird. And I used to actually respect the comments you made on this site until now. And you may not recognise my name on here, but oh well.

That interview with jim jones happened months ago reckless. Christ.

NwordFuneral

Not to mention, this goes against the word of "God" and the teachings of the bible. The act of "homosexuality" is a sin. This country was built on the principles of the word of "God". Why do think we’ve become the most powerful nation? It's because of our backbone of "Christianity" and God's word, but our stronghold will start to slip as our government and society grows distant from him. Our Declaration of Independence doesn’t even hold weight these day’s either, this is also a direct violation of our “Freedom of Speech”. Where is our morality?

How come the word "nigger" hasn't been outlawed?

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