So I Was Wrong About Fat Joe

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Someone told me that I "hate New York City more than I hate Field Mob." And maybe it's because I cut down on G-Unit and Fat Joe so bad that this would be the only assertion one would come to. However, while the rigid despise for the Unit remains, I am forced, based on agreement with someone, to publicly apologize for calling the Trinity Ave MC "Fat Joke."

His album is actually decent. Now I didn't know what the hell he was thinking with that awful Lil Wayne collabo, "Make It Rain," 'cause the song is so poorly produced, poorly written, and just flat out poor period, that I could only scratch my head and wonder why he would even do a vid for this as a means to promoting his LP.

But that's just the problem with Joe... or so I thought. According to his publicity camp, he had tried to create some buzz with the take-it-back-to-the-streets joint "Damn," which is, I must say, something the hip-hop head Reckless would definitely rock. But unfortunately, because these program directors have their dicks so far up their ass, Joe had to take it to the bandwagon route to bag a little bit of airplay.

Before I knew what went down behind he scenes, and before I heard the cuts "Damn," "Pandemic," "Breathe and Stop," and a couple of others, it seemed as if Joe had scratched "My Lifestyle," scratched the first Terror Squad album, scratched street-anthem cuts like "Take a Look in My Life," and all that other good, grimy music to jump the bandwagon as a means to recapturing that R. Kelly collabo sound to go platinum once again.

Many say that on Me Myself and I, Joe has taken a return to the roots from which he started... and I listened. It's true. His album is pretty good. But with two tracks on the album with this little black troll, this Lil Wayne shit has got to stop. Seriously. Just stop it. Duke is not that serious. Just because Jay co-signed this little elf doesn't mean its official. Hov signed Lady Sovereign for crying out loud. Stick a fork in it.

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I never bought a Fat Hoe album, and never will. Wrap it up!!!

what? i can't believe this...Joe...crack? i had given up hope on this dude as an emcee first then as an individual.....but if Reckless is willin to swallow his words i guess i better wait for my man to cop the album n give it a listen....

shit i need more than this post to get me to spend my on money on a Fat Joe record...i hope this shit is concrete!

PAMOJA!!! what's good kiss...caught your post yesterday...Niaje!

*edit* my own money on

PAMOJA!!!

He sold 61k his first week, lol. Nobody bought it.

Can somebody please tell me why is Fat Joke still rappin. Does anybody care about what he has to say? How many hits does he have under his belt? The only reason he got problems with Jay n 50 is cause they do what he cant do "MAKE HITS". Pun was the illest to come out of TS then Remy. Remy had more hitz on 1 album than he had in 10 yrs. A chick is reppin his team better than him. How could the leader of TS not have a classic album, and claim he the king of NY. He aint even the king of his team, Remy is

Dont be fooled by the single joes album is mad street it feels like 90s hip hop myspace.com/ninohnewjack myspace.com/ninohnewjack

what a waste.....

First off, why the hell is everyone all of a sudden hatin on lil wayne? you bloggers kill me. Gillie da kid comes out with some bullshit and now everybody hates him. Nigga has been nice since the start of cash money, now he's a little troll? Fat joe hasn't been hot since Pun died(check Don Cartegena). He's had Remy and some other cat write for him. He's boring. His production is hot but he's not. You niggas don't know music

wayne isnt that bad...i actually liked tha carter 2...it was actually one of my favorite albums from last year...wayne is not as good as everyone thinks though...his last two albums were tight as are his rhymes but some of the things he says in interviews and some of the topics in his songs are ridiculous...i respect him as an emcee and i think he will be one of the few from the south that will survive when new york returns to prominence

Ohdis:


Whats good my dude!
I was tryna put ni99as on to Me, MySelf & I.
That album is str8 fire and like Reckless said the worst 2 tracks are with Lil Wayne so that should tell u something.
Hip-Hop is back, Snap Yo Fingers is Wack and that Kingdom Come is CRACK!
I damn near spent $70 in Music Factory yesterday on albums alone.

Jay-Z - Kingdom Come: COPPED IT!
Snoop Dogg - Blue Carpet Treatment: COPPED IT!
Akon - Konvicted: COPPED IT!
Game - Doctor's Advocate: COPPED IT!
Fat Joe - Me, MySelf & I: COPPED IT!


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Ya'll ni99as better start supporting real music!
Just bcuz 50 Cent said a ni99a is wack or broke or wateva otha shyt he usually be poppin' does not mean u have 2 dick ride! G-Unit Groupies take the d!ck out ur @ss and open ur mothafuckin' EYES!

Toni Gayo is not HIP-HOP!
50 Snitch is not a Lyricist!
Lloyd Banks is a Zombie!

And yes I copped Rotten Apple and I like the 1st 10 tracks, everything after that is ass cheeks.


HIP-HOP AIN'T DEAD IT LIVES IN MY IPOD!

PEACE!
BROOKLYN STAND UP!

For the first time in history SOHH Reckless isn't hating on someone??

I can't buy this cd untill he come out with something gutter. I thought he was independant, what do u mean he had to release the song with lil wayne? Wayne is my nigga (no homo) but that song is straight garbage.

Jay-Z - Kingdom Come: got it
Snoop Dogg - Blue Carpet Treatment: got it
Akon - Konvicted: Next Week
Game - Doctor's Advocate: Next Week
Fat Joe - Me, MySelf & I: still in the air
Jim ONes - took a chance, it's aight

Comming soon:
Nas
the clipse
UGK
Young Jeezy

@ Xclusive BK Dude

U got that Flava Flav yet, i heard it's crack son!

NIGGA YOU AINT WRONG FAT JOE IS STRAIGHT GARBAGE.
HIS ALBUM IST ASS, SOLD JUST 60.OOO FIRST WEEK LOL.
i LOVE HOW A FAKE ASS LIKE THE GAME SOLD 150.000 ON HIS FRST DAY.
GAMES ALBUM IS DOPE EVEN THOUGH IT SOUNDS CHEESY KNOWING HOW MUCH HE LIES.

FAT HOE IS OVER NIGGASZ THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF HIS END.

YOU WEREN'T WRONG! YOU WERE RIGHT! YOUR FIST INSTINCT WAS NOT LEADING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION! SLOPPY JOE IS GARBAGE! THAT'S WHY ATLANTIC DROPPED HIM! THE DUDE ONLY SOLD 65,0000 RECORDS! ON TOP OF THAT, WHY ISN'T THIS DUDE TAKING CARE OF PUN'S (HIS BEST FRIEND) FAMILY? WHY DID HE HAVE SOMEONE SLASH CUBAN LINK IN THE FACE? WHY DID HE DO REMY MA WRONG? THERE HASN'T BEEN A TERROR IN SQUAD SINCE THE PUN ERA!

The problem with Fat Joe is that he really thinks he is a BOSS. HE acts BOSS and talks BOSS but nobody believes he is BOSS. You would think that the nigga has gone platinum and won grammy by the way he carries himself and thats all good.
He actually would be a BOSS if he paid attention to anybody but himself but since nobody else pays him attention he HASNOCHOICE.

Fatsoe's made some bangers. But he is one arrogant self-minded bully. Look at the way he acted on Wild N Out, couldn't even take a joke.

And what about the interview on Funk Flex's show, where he didn't even let Funk speak, although Funk just sounded like he was scared of him and just sucked up to him.

And Fatsoe wants to go on about how he's for the people. Which people? The same communities he floods cheap crack to? That's AGAINST the people.

He needs to be in jail, not in the charts...

If u niggaz would pull ur heads out of ur asses long enuff to actually listen some music, u would kno that joe's album is fire. Stop da fukking hating homos. If the shit is good, just say it. Aint no extra charge for a positive comment even if u dont like da guy. And i bet some of u got kidz. What a fukking example u are.

Reckless,

Pu$$y ass nigga stop hating on Wayne.

Tha carter is super nice on the mic and you know it.

SOHH NYC

What do ya'll have against Lil Wayne? I dont get it. The dude is fire. Is it because he's from the South and not your precious city?

Fat Joe's album is way better than I expected. Cop it!!!

Go Cop:
Me, Myself, & I
Blue Carpet Treatment
Hi-Technology 2
Doctor's Advocate
Kingdom Come
School Was My Hustle
Konvicted

Save For:
Hell Hath No Fury
Hip Hop is Dead
Thug Motivation 102
Buck the World

Damn I gonna be broke for a minute

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Co-Sign, 2 much good music out there and the holidays are right around the corner.

Hold the hell up! Wayne is not that serious?? Ufk Jay-Z, Jay doesn't have to co-sign him. He's nice all on his own. And that make it rain shit is hot because of Wayne(the lyrics are terrible). Now Joe's album, YES it actually IS hot. I was on the "Fat Joke" trip too....because he is. But I heard the album and was like "well,damn...look who done stepped their game up".

But please, ufk Jay's co-sign, Weezy wee is fire right now. And has been since 500 degreez.

Don't judge an album off of how many other people brought it. Go listen and judge it for yourself.


YOU WEREN'T WRONG! YOU WERE RIGHT! YOUR FIST INSTINCT WAS NOT LEADING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION! SLOPPY JOE IS GARBAGE! THAT'S WHY ATLANTIC DROPPED HIM! THE DUDE ONLY SOLD 65,0000 RECORDS! ON TOP OF THAT, WHY ISN'T THIS DUDE TAKING CARE OF PUN'S (HIS BEST FRIEND) FAMILY? WHY DID HE HAVE SOMEONE SLASH CUBAN LINK IN THE FACE? WHY DID HE DO REMY MA WRONG? THERE HASN'T BEEN A TERROR IN SQUAD SINCE THE PUN ERA!

Posted by: DREDRICK TATUM at November 22, 2006 08:09 AM

............................................................................................................................. Co-sign

SOHH NYC

What do ya'll have against Lil Wayne? I dont get it. The dude is fire. Is it because he's from the South and not your precious city?

Posted by: rocK at November 22, 2006 08:33 AM

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Damn! U NY niggaz still hatin on Wayne? U cant be serious. U Ny niggaz are funny man.

bobby drake

Joe's album is gutter. I was fucking shocked. You like gutter it won't disappoint. I thought he was going to do a commercial album, I was wrong. I myself was talking shit about Joe too but I had to take it back once I heard the album.

LOOK, I read yo blogs daily...and you always have some BIASED OPINION about someone. I can't stand it. The shit u said about weezy is stupid. Plain ole stupid. You may not think so, but ask any nigga in the industry, WAyne is the truth. HANDS DOWN> ONE QUESTION: HAVE YOU HEARD HOLLYWOOD DIVORCE????? U DUMBASS

^real talk

to be honest all those artist brag a lot until they help out the hood they wont be getting my hard earned money i will listen for free thanks to downloading fuck all them artist they dont give a shit about me

LIL WAYNE >>>> fat joe

If u niggaz would pull ur heads out of ur asses long enuff to actually listen some music, u would kno that joe's album is fire. Stop da fukking hating homos. If the shit is good, just say it. Aint no extra charge for a positive comment even if u dont like da guy. And i bet some of u got kidz. What a fukking example u are.

Posted by: ghettoyute at November 22, 2006 08:30 AM

I have to co-sign this. You dudes try to get all personal with these artist. They are fuckin artist what the hell does it matter what type of person they are. I buy albums because I like there music not because I like them as an individual. Some of you are some sensitive super fans.

Peace Xclusive BK.

I had 2 ether htownmike yesterday

Posted by: Huey Freeman at November 22, 2006 08:46 AM


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Huey wats really hood!

Yeah i peeped the convo. u and mike had yesterday the shyt was dumb funny to me lol.
I don't take him 2 serious anyways and BTW, his new name is Kramer.


My 2 Centz:

Whats good fam I ain't gonna front I've always been a Fat Joe, Ja Rule, D Block, supporter even when it wasn't cool. And I bump Dip-Set when I'm in the mood for Harlem music. Bcuz it ain't about a rappers image to me, who gives a fuck if u pussy or sweet or a sucker for love as long as a ni99a makes good music I'm bumpin they shyt. Real Talk!

What do ya'll have against Lil Wayne? I dont get it. The dude is fire. Is it because he's from the South and not your precious city?

Posted by: rocK at November 22, 2006 08:33 AM

I'm sorry but Lil Wayne is overrated.

Posted by: Huey Freeman at November 22, 2006 08:54 AM

Shit, It's no different then dudes hating on Jay. Just like Kat Williams said "What are you all complaining about? You need haters, that's there fucking job too hate. So let them do there job." Sorry but so true.

whats up odhis,,,,,niaje
doctors advocate is straight fire....jus get used to t he game name droppin...but i think it will sell more dependin on the next single he releases...
old english ,da shit or that song with will.i.am compton can be singles...am his fan though i thought called out dr.dre too many times...

Granted Reckless may have come at Lil Wayne a little hard, but what I took from it and agree with is that no artist needs to have any guest on their album twice. One collabo is enough.

My 2 Centz:

Whats good fam I ain't gonna front I've always been a Fat Joe, Ja Rule, D Block, supporter even when it wasn't cool. And I bump Dip-Set when I'm in the mood for Harlem music. Bcuz it ain't about a rappers image to me, who gives a fuck if u pussy or sweet or a sucker for love as long as a ni99a makes good music I'm bumpin they shyt. Real Talk!

Posted by: Xclusive BK Dude at November 22, 2006 08:57 AM

That's what, I'm saying homie. I don't like Jim because he runs his mouth too much but I can't front either I've sreamed BAAAAALLLLLING! jamming in the ride. It's a hot song, period. By the way I went to try to cop Jay's Kindome Come, I ended up leaving with a copy of S.Carter Vol 3, I lost my copy. I can't buy Kingdom Come, I think it's a bad album. Since his album released I've been getting reacquainted with his past albums Blueprint and The Black Album. Jay really put no effort into his KINGDOM COME Album. Can you believe 106 and park handed him the whole fuckin show today? Yo I never seen them do that shit for Diddy. Damn, who has the key to the city now.

what happened to the 'revolover' song? if that was the only song i heard on the radio, i would have bought it already, but that song with wayne is on some band wagon shit. i know the south runs it right now, but we can tell when u just doin something cause it's hot.bright side is, the plaque he'll get for going wood will match the walls of his house.

da shit or that song with will.i.am compton can be singles...am his fan though i thought called out dr.dre too many times...

Posted by: bari the kenyan at November 22, 2006 09:06 AM

100% Co-sign those are my two favorate tracks on the CD. As much as I respect and appreciate Dre's skills Game is giving him way too much love after dude turned his back on him.

Posted by: rocK at November 22, 2006 08:33 AM

personally I like Lil Wayne
but not everyone has the same ear for music
everyones not gonna like what ub like and vice versa
perfect example
I think Dipset sucks! but there's alot of people that love them mofo's
it has nothing to do with where he's from everyones not gonna feel him

don't get it twisted mad people up north love him
don't start this North vs South BS Please

anyway
Ima take a chance on Fat Joe
I did like Loyalty
the single is maaad Commercial so I expected more of the same corney sht he's been on.
But alot of yall are saying he took it back. Ima wait till I heard a few more cuts and then If I'm pleased I'll cop it.

Whats the Verdict on Jay-Z album
and I'm hearing SNOOP new jt is off the Chizzzain!

Whats the Verdict on Jay-Z album

Posted by: Banga! at November 22, 2006 09:13 AM

Jay-z came stupid soft and effortless on this album. Even the the good joints on there is mediocre. I think lost ones is the top dog on the whole album.

********To everyone angry at Reckless for dissing Wayne*****************

For the first time in this blog's history, Reckless DID NOT, and i repeat DID NOT take a shot at wayne. He just stated that the colabo WITH wayne was garbage. and it was, wayne didn't even spit a verse, the beat was wack, and the whole song is wack. want proof, look at the charts, aint nobody bumpin it.

RECKLESS u owe me!

I'll give you one thing Reckless, you are consistent. You consistently find some way to bash a Southern artist in EVERY post you make. W/E do you.

I'm glad people are starting to fall out of this region hate. Its good for us all.

anyone heard joe dissin jigga on power 99 radio in philly...dissin 50 too...

@ Huey FreeDman

Gettin' on me this a.m. before i even get to work my man? Hell i wasn't even on the blog, but it's good to know i stay on your mind like like baseball caps and beanies.

@ SOHH NYC

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!

WUTTUP WORLD???


What do ya'll have to be thankful for today?

1.) I gotta good job

2.) A great/fine ass fiance

3.) I'm fixin' to buy a new pit this weekend.

4.) I'm 23 and own a home

5.) Good Health

6.) I'm getting a new motorcycle within the year.

Everybody post what you are thankful for....

What's up NYC?

I gotta say that The Blue Carpet is ssssooooo not what I expected - it's better! Snoop really went back to the shed and pull out a damn hand granade!

I am anxiously awaiting Nas and I got a lil sneak Preview of The Clipse - and they got me sold! I am buying that shit 2 times - one for me and one for my lil brother!

I got so much damn music I get a migraine trying to decided what to play.

The Game is hot! Kingdome Come is good!
Akon - I will get that next week! Snoop is that shit though - this my favorite overall right now!

Banga!:
Please buy Snoop - you will not be disappointed - please believe!

Jigga's album is okay. It's a good listen but this not that gutta shit ya know. My brother did not like it. He said it was too soft for him - but I like it alright - of course I gotta go with Snoop for the best - Game is tight but Snoops shit is the best so far!

Another blog of RECKLESS takin shots at the south!
its a damn shame.
Lil wayne is what new york needs right now, he is the only one from the south right now that really fucks wit new york and being that he went platinum on all his albums, he has alot of die hard dick riddin fans, so if he go new york then so will his millions of fans, so yeah its actually the best look for new york right now. But yet here's reckless talkin sideways tryn to start some plex.


Texas babY!

I had 2 ether htownmike yesterday

Posted by: Huey Freeman at November 22, 2006 08:46 AM
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You's a silly dude.

How you "ether" somebody with a verse in a blog? After you typed the blog....you was walkin round the job with your chest bowed up??? You invited your coworkers to come read it???

I was respectin you (and still do) cuz you go back and forth with me on some knowledge, but then I read that I was just shakin my head.

Oh yeah....I "ethered" your twist of truth on the "God calling us god" on that NY blog. Go check it out...then come holla at me...lemme know if you got questions.

Also my man...how come you ain't come through "MySpot" and "drop jewels"? That was your oppportunity homeboy. That light was shinin too bright for you?

Matter of fact...NONE of ya'll 5%ers, Muslims...nobody used the opportunity to come spread the message of "their god". Ya'll was gettin ya chat on about other grown men's life. That's cute, yet unproductive to society.

Oh yeah Huey....is that you and your brotha in the IllCommunity on AHH?

Get at me. It's a slow day here today.....I'm bout to go drop the kids off at the pool, read a little bit from my pocket bible...then come back to check up on my man Huey.

Christ Bless!
PZ

"..... Reckless DID NOT, and i repeat DID NOT take a shot at wayne. He just stated that the colabo WITH wayne was garbage."

Posted by: bobby drake at November 22, 2006 09:25 AM

No, he clearly said:

"But with two tracks on the album with this little black troll, this Lil Wayne shit has got to stop. Seriously. Just stop it. Duke is not that serious. Just because Jay co-signed this little elf doesn't mean its official. "
Posted by SOHH Reckless at November 22, 2006 04:35 AM

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Now if that wasnt a shot at him then I dont what is. Everyone is not going to like everyone this is true. But I honestly believe that just because this nigga is from the South, alot of up North cats hate on him.

Because if your a true hip hop head like alot of you niggaz claim to be then, you would recognize that this nigga is the truth on the mic.

Banga!:
Please buy Snoop - you will not be disappointed - please believe!

Jigga's album is okay. It's a good listen but this not that gutta shit ya know. My brother did not like it. He said it was too soft for him - but I like it alright - of course I gotta go with Snoop for the best - Game is tight but Snoops shit is the best so far!

Posted by: That's Dat Shit at November 22, 2006 09:43 AM

I gotta co-sign that. I picked up Jay yesterday too. It's bad before I even had listened to any tracks, I already had perceived in to be soft. He came thru on a couple tracks, though. The dude is corporate, a mogul, and major investor now. So, I don't expect his subject matter to be compared to that of Reasonable Doubt.

That Snoop is crack though! I guess he got real pissed at the state of hip hop and tired of people saying he went "pop". He came back with a vengence. Best since Doggystyle i.m.o.

Gangsta Rap is started to come back. A solid album by Cube, the Game, and now Snoop! Ahh...I just don't know what to do, and I'm not even from the West Coast.

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