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Grandmaster Flash: I am Hip-Hop

Written by SOHH Reckless

Posted on November 20, 2006 4:38 AM

Hip-hop was invented by Kool Herc in The Bronx in 1971. Two years later, 138th and Cypress Avenue's Grandmaster Flash came along. He later invented the turntable techniques that would become known to many as "cutting" and "backspinning" and whatnot. And unbeknownst to most, he created the (human) "beatbox."

Everything you hear DJs like Green Lantern doing on the turntables now (what few DJs actually have some talent on the tables), this dude is responsible for...

To both the schooled and un-schooled, I present to you the winner of the BET "I Am Hip-Hop" Icon Award.

grandmasterflashradio.jpg

If there were more DJs like him today, then there would be less idiots like Chamillionaire, and all the other cornballs in the South who pretend they know who Grandmaster Flash is. But before you get your panties in a bunch, let me just give you Flash's view on where hip-hop is today:

"Myself, Kool Herc and Afrika Bambaataa, we are the creators of this artform. Whatever direction it goes you gotta look at it like this here: whenever something that's created is loved by so many people there will be different musical and lyrical points of view. In life, nobody likes all of anything. A vehicle that you like is a certain vehicle that you hate. That's just the way that it goes down. So me, I say that to all MCs and to all DJs, explore all options. That is the only way why hip-hop is the biggest music on the planet where at one time you guys looked at it as a bastard."


Whoever thought this would be the view of one of the creators of hip-hop. Interesting... a far cry from the response I expected.

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183 Comments

1ST WHORES..............I ALWAYS WANTED TO DO THAT

SO FLASH WAS BASICALLY SAYING TO EACH HIS OWN......WHILE RECKLESS WAS TAKING ANOTHER LAME SHOT @ THE SOUTH TO GET 1,000 POSTS?

I GUESS THERE'S NO REAL HIP HOP NEWS TO REPORT.

THE TITLE 'GRANDMASTER'IS TO BE EARNED, NOT SELF PROCLAIMED LIKE "KING OF NY" OR "KING OF THE SOUTH". RESPECT TO GRANDMASTER FLASH !!!

DESPITE WHAT 'DISGRUNTLED RAPPER' AKA RECKLESS SAYS (like he has ever been outside NY)I'VE BEEN A FAN SINCE THE SUGARHILL / ENJOY RECORDS DAYS!!! I EVEN HAD A 'FLASFORMER' HOOKED UP TO MY MIXER(HA!)

"FLASH IS ON THE BEATBOX, DO IIIIIIIIITT!!! AN'...AN'........AN'.CAN'T FRONT I THOUGHT THEY MEANT BEAT BOX AS IN DRUM MACHINE. OH WELL.

WAS CALLING CHAMILLIONARE AN "IDIOT" ALL THAT NECCESSARY? BEING BORN IN THE SOUTH, I FEEL KINDA "BABY LIGHT WEIGHT" DISRESPECTED. SHIT EVERY COAST HAVE THEIR "FAIR SHARE" OF CORNBALLS (ex: THE WRITER'S OF "CHICKEN NOODLE SOUP") BUT TO DIRECT ALL THE CORNBALLS FROM THE SOUTH, MAN COME ON WIT THAT BULLSHIT. SO ARE YOU BASICALLY SAYING PEOPLE DOWN SOUTH DON'T KNOW WHAT REAL HIP-HOP IS? I THINK YOU SAID THAT JUST TO START ANOTHER EAST COAST VS EVERY OTHER COAST BLOG AGAIN.

EVERYBODY "WORLDWIDE" RESPECTS FLASH, AND HONOR WHAT HE'S DID AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO FOR HIP-HOP. HE'S A "WALKING MEMORIAL", ALONG WITH KOOL HERC. AFRICA BAMBAATAA.

hey dude.....mad props to Grandmaster flash....i didn't know that bout beatboxing.....

Chamillionaire is a hot rapper i think the boy had a few respectable verses on that sound of revenge...Rick Ross on the other hand is prolly the wackest lyricist in the game....shit he makes Joc sound like a legend!

Let us all enjoy hip hop n the bits we don't like we should bear with....the darkness makes u appreciate the light, right?

PAMOJA!!!!


I don't think that Grandmaster Flash IS hop hop ... or WAS for that matter ...

I believe Grandmaster Flash was the embodiment of the Hip Hop pioneer ... the Hip Hop connoisseur ... he is for Hip Hop a popularized icon that people associate with Hip Hop music ...

its rediculous and egocentric for anyone to claim they are a particular form of music

peace

YEAH WTF IM FROM BROOKLYN NY AND I STILL FIND IT FUCKED UP U CALLIN CHAM AN IDIOT...WTF DID HE DO TO U? U MIGHT AS WELL CALL BONE THUGZ FAGGOTS WHO CANT MAKE MUSIC IF THEIR LIFE DEPENDED ON IT....LAST TIME I CHECKED, CHAM CAN MAKE MUSIC BUDDY WHEN U HARMONIZE UR VOICE UR REALLY SINGING. WHICH IS TRUE FORM OF HIP HOP CUZ ITS MUSIC. ITS NOT JUST TALKIN LIKE MOST OF YOUR FAV "NY" RAPPERS U IDIOT....RECOGNIZE REAL TALENT U JERK OFF...NOT EVEN DICK RIDING....BUT WHEN SOME1 GOT TALENT ITS ABLE TO BE SPOTTED...UR APPARENTLY A SENIOR CITIZEN AND CANT SEE VERY WELL.......WTF DOES CHAM HAVE TO DO WITH THIS GUY?! POINTLESS BLOG MAN U MADE ME WASTE MY FINGER STRENGHT

I wish niggas would stop talkin shit about the south and attaching NYC to it all the time, thats probably why some niggas act like they got so much to prove to NYC cause niggas like this.
Flash is god, no question about it, but I think we got it my man, he started scratching, cutting, from the BX, no doubt...dont preach about it though, niggas cant ever change the fact hip hop started in NYC, no matter how much niggas get sick of hearing it, cats take it very personal being reminded about New Yorks importance...

NO SOHH--

I AM HIP-HOP

WHY YALL STAY HATING ON THE SOUTH

LEAVE THEM NIGGAS ALONE AND GET YOUR MONEY RIGHT NIGGA!

SOHH U PLAYING UR SELF -TRYING TO START UP SOME HATE AGIANST THE SOUTH

WHY MENTION CHAMILLIONAIRE AT ALL-YALL ACTING LIKE BITCHES SOHH

Don Gonzaléz,

In case you didn't know, hip hop is not a form of music. Hip hop is a culture. Rap is a form of music and hip hop music is a form of music (rap music and hip hop music are the same thing) It may look or sound confusing but you have to understand what the creators of the culture mean when they say they are hip hop or anyone who makes that statement for that matter. If you live the culture, practice one of the elements ie rap, dj, break, graffiti, clothes, language, street business, you are hip hop as well.
peace

My personal opinion,

I think that rap music is about to be a wrap. It's not the south's fault totally. It's everybody's fault, mainly radio, the labels, the consumers - all of us. We make everything about first week sales, not allowing anyone to grow. Biggie's first album took 6 months to go platinum. There's no artist development anymore.We're at the point where a cat over 30 is seen as over the hill - that's bullshit. Real talk - I hope hip hop music dies - crash and burns and goes back to the underground where it can be creative again.

"Whatever direction it goes you gotta look at it like this here: whenever something that's created is loved by so many people there will be different musical and lyrical points of view. In life, nobody likes all of anything. A vehicle that you like is a certain vehicle that you hate. That's just the way that it goes down."--Flash says that and you go and hate Chamillionare? Did you even read what you put on the page? Im not hating or a stan (hell i didnt even think that album was that hot, but homie is humble.) But why say all that? By the way, HIP HOP Aint dead anywhere except NY!!

WATS ROCIIN SOHH?

=TAH=

Hey Rizzop,

You are wrong about hip hop being dead in NYC - maybe mainstream hip hop is dead but not underground. I remember when you could count the number of hip hop mainstream artist from the south with one hand - that didn't mean that hip hop was dead in the south. I knew tons of underground artists from the south that were selling and doing well in their own hood. Hip hop was not dead in the south then. See this is what I'm talking about. All you people are concerned with what mainstream tells you is hot and everything is about sales -as if we make a dime. Who give a shit about what another grown ass man sells. I just like the music. This is no disrespect to you Rizzop or anyone but we gotta be careful about what we interpret.

Man fuck this nigga grandmaster trash, i hate thes fucking old ass niggas talking shit all the time. There should be an age limit on who can be involved in hip hop from 18-32, any older go listen or talk about some fucking blues music. This niggas so irrelevant its embarrassing, hes a fucking joke and waste of blog space. I mean us young niggas have improved this rap shit so much, were better rappers have better flows, better beats and better lyrics than the old niggas. We are just more intelligent than the older generation and are more willing to talk about important issues within our community and important social issues period.

@ Tahjack50n

Goodmorning tah you get my email from this weekend?

BIG SUN

IDK, IM GONNA CHECK RITE NOW. I GET LIKE 60 THINGS OF MAIL IN ONE DAY! SO I B DELETING ISH! LOL!

HOW WAS UR WEEKEND?

=TAH=

teenagemutantnigga

Hey little boy, didn't your mommy tell you to shut the hell up when you here grown folks talking. You are a stupid young fuck. What the hell you Nelly, Ti, Young Jezzy stans gonna say when you turn 30-33. Somebody needs to just put some chrome in ya big mouth and squeeze the trigger.
Punk mutherfucker

Mad props to the originators and by extension Marley Marl, KRS, Eric B. / Rakim, Melle Mel, Big Daddy, Sugar Hill, MC Lyte, Queen Lah and all the pioneers who swated to build this part of our culture and can today go un-noticed in a department store because of our selective memory.

"Broken glass everywhere
People pissin' on the stage, you know they just don't care
I can't take the smell, can't take the noise
Got no money to move out, I guess I got no choice
Rats in the front room, roaches in the back
Junkies in the alley with a baseball bat
I tried to get away but I couldn't get far
'cuz a man with a tow truck repossessed my car..."

Just so y'all don't forget.

BTW, I like Chamillionaire.


BIG SUN

YEAH I GOT THE EMAIL.

=TAH=

i MEAN AM I THE ONLY ONE TIRED OF ALL THIS JAY Z PROMO SHIT...WITH THE PROMO HE HAS GOTTEN IF HE DOES NOT DO MORE THEN GAME WHICH IS GONNA BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 400,000 THEN HE NEEDS TO DIG HIS OWN HOLE.

@ tah

Yeah let me know what you think when you get home and listen. My weekend was cool I flew back home my little sis got married so I was happy about that, the wedding was cool. I'm staying here till friday then i got to go back out to washington for 3 more days I'm just tired as hell.

BIG SUN

OK...BACK HOME? WHERES UR HOME? OH THATS GREAT SHE GOT MARRIED! SHIT MY SEXY PRINCIPAL GOT MARRIED, IM PISSED! LMAO!

=TAH=

Wow, Reckless. Just wow. Its people like you and comments from people like you that get people all riled up. I will state this only ONCE. New York is not the only place that is hip hop. If you think otherwise you are an idiot. People are always inciting this South vs East Coast trash. Hate it or Love it, if there are certain elements of hip hop that you don't like, that doesn't make them non-hip hop. Ya'll don't own hip hop. And when I say ya'll I mean anyone from anywhere that has a closed mind when it comes to hip hop.

How can you give props to a nigga who hasnt done anything for 20 years, unbelievable. Chamillionaire is fucking superman compared to this worn out old timer. Im just speaking on what everybody else is too scared to say.

teenagemutantnigga

Wow! You even have a preschool name. This child is a prime example of hip hop ignorance.

How can you give props to a nigga who hasnt done anything for 20 years, unbelievable. Chamillionaire is fucking superman compared to this worn out old timer. Im just speaking on what everybody else is too scared to say.

Posted by: teenagemutantnigga at November 20, 2006 09:08 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! This kid is funny

i MEAN AM I THE ONLY ONE TIRED OF ALL THIS JAY Z PROMO SHIT...WITH THE PROMO HE HAS GOTTEN IF HE DOES NOT DO MORE THEN GAME WHICH IS GONNA BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 400,000 THEN HE NEEDS TO DIG HIS OWN HOLE.

LOL Hater

@teenagemutantnigga cosign like a motherfucka. These old tramp ass motherfuckers need to bow to the superior more improved young nigga, because we made this hip hop what it is with our creativity. If we wouldnt have come in and saved hip hop i dread to think what it would be like know. Young niggas stand up old niggas sit down.

hey teenagemutantnigga

Flash is djing all over the world and has been doing that for 20-30 years. Just because you don't know about it don't mean he ain't doing nothing. Check out is website investigate nigga. How old are you by the way and what have you been doing all these years besides being a bitch ass nigga, mommas boy and a overall ignorant monkey slut.

Much love and respect to Grandmaster Flash!

Reckless, good job! I'm done with you!

TO ALL THE YOUNG HIP HOP FANS AND ARTISTS

CONTINUE TO GROW LEARN,AND ADVANCE HIP HOP, BUT RESPECT YOUR ELDERS. KEEP LIVING AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE YOUNGER THAN YOU SAY TO YOU WHEN YOU'RE 35-40 - IF YOU MAKE IT WITHOUT BEING A RECKLESS FUCK AND GETTING YOUR SELF KILLED. REMEMBER - YOU CAN NEVER KNOW MORE THAN YOUR MASTER. AND READ A BOOK KIDDIES

I mean, did you even read his comments. He's not judging the south but you continue to invite these little punk ass kids up in here. I guess this is what you want. This blog used to have a building rep for progressive thinking. Sure, we ethered kids and stans but for the most part it stayed interesting. Now, all you have left are kids cussing each other out over some wack ass regional beef. If that's what you want, that's what you have.

Peace NYC

@ Tahjack50n

I live in down town Brooklyn Fort Green, my JO sends me damn near everywhere so lately I been spending sometime in the air. I was out in seattle last week and I got to go back for a couple more days after thanksgiving.

much respect to grandmasterflash melle mel and the furious five one of my first exposures to hip hop was these cats matter of fact first was sugar hill gang and rappers delight then came these cats then kurtis blow etc etc anyway ive never came on here and said ish about the creator of the blog but that was b.s. calling the man an idiot and dissing the south htf you know who they know? my mother and father from the south and i got hella fam in the south ala miss,ark,tenn&ga. so i wanna humbly say fu** you you stirring up the real idiots who gonna come on this mofo and talk sh** I WANT TO KNOW WHAT BLACK PERSON HONESTLY BELIEVE THEY DONT HAVE TIES TO THE SOUTH? if you think not you are the idiot PEACE TO ONLY AND ALL THE REAL P.S. THAT NEW GAME IS BANGIN AND SO IS THAT DAZ JAY-Z TMRRW REP WHERE YOU FROM BUT WE ALL BLACK FIRST AND WE ALL CAN EAT OFF THIS HIP HOP GO BEARS GO BULLS PEACE!!!!!!!!

BIG SUN

WELL ITS GOOD TO TRAVEL! THATS COOL!

=TAH=

@ Huey

What up my dude?

@fukface yo nigga you shouldnt put yourself down like that, sometimes people are just unfortunate but youll get through it nigga once you embrace your ugliness. Anyway back onto grandpa trash where the fuck he been djing the black hole of calcutta, cause i aint seen that golden oldie anywhere. Last time i seen a nigga like him he was looking in a bin, true story.

Good Morning everyone..
Hip Hop will fail if we continue to disrespect our legends.

On another note Chamillionaire is the first artist to make an entire song about racial profiling.

I appreciate him for that alone.

Jay touched on it 99 problems but Chamillionaire was very specific in his detail.

The only reason I don't mind the washington trip is cause the sticky is grrrrrrrrrrreat. There is absolutely nothing to do in Seattle the clubs are wack as hell the radio stations make me feel like I am in some twilight zone. It's mad hippies out here though they cool that's who I get my green from. But other than that I just miss home when i'm gone. I'm enjoying my time right now got off until I go back so I'm probably going to hit the gallery up get the shopping for the holidays out the way.

@teenagemutantnigga you a funny ass nigga but you need to chill with that shit cause im only 18 and i got mad respect for the pioneers. You giving the teenage niggas a bad name up in here.

@ RECKLESS

That was a really fraud ass chump shot at Chamillionaire. You obviously don't know his background in this game very well. He has more RESPECT and KNOWLEDGE about hip hop than a whole lot of rappers in this game right now... check his resume' He is a pioneer of bringing this game back to where it needs to be... Honestly at first RECKLESS i had very little respect for you to begin with, now i have none.

@ RECKLESS

That was a really fraud ass chump shot at Chamillionaire. You obviously don't know his background in this game very well. He has more RESPECT and KNOWLEDGE about hip hop than a whole lot of rappers in this game right now... check his resume' He is a pioneer of bringing this game back to where it needs to be... Honestly at first RECKLESS i had very little respect for you to begin with, now i have none.

My bad for the double post ya'll....


ANYWAYS....


WUTTUP WORLD????????????

im up in this bitch!
First off FUCK RECKLESS!
dat nigga a hoe

Shout out to the nigga Mafioso

go to myspace/unknown@streetstructure.com

They should name this shit from School of Hip Hop to school of salty niggas. From the writer to the little pussy ass kids on here who prolly get they ass beat all the time on the block.A nigga does something big in rap he a hoe or sell out. Why? Cuz he got tired of jail and gettin shot at. An artist go plat yall still say he flopped. Then when he sell a shit load yall still play that bullshit and say it aint all about sales. I swear minorities in general need to stop cuttin each other throats. If the next man is eating find out wha he did and step ya game up.Yall lil motherfuckers think its about the chump ass change ya makin now. BUt what yall gon do when ya mom kik ya bitch ass out the house. That bling gonna seem a lil worthless. And that ride ya mom was payin for gonnna get a lil expensive when ya gotta pay bills on ya own crib. Step ya game up and open ya mind.
Talkin bout the young niggas made the game what it is is; nigga kill yaself.
What is anybody from any coast talkin bout anymore:Whip, murder, drugs, and bitches. What ever happened to brenda got a baby, letter to the president and shit like that. Shit ain been around for a good minute on the mainstream or anywhere. That aspect of hip hop is dying.WHen people realize that hip hop will be even more huge and alot more respected.

In every song niggas dealin the work/talkin about how many niggas that they willin merk/ but how many niggas you gon kill a verse/ you gotta convince me dogg- Cassidy

Death to you playa hataz dont let me find ya - PAC

@DIS whats good my nigga its been a while, you get bored of the blog shit for a minute? cause i know i do if shit dont pop off. Cant believe the nigga reckless started taking shots at the south for no reason, he didnt even need to mention chamillionaire.

What makes you think Chamillionaire and other rappers from the south don't know the history of Grandmaster Flash? I guarantee you there are an ass of NY rappers who don't know shit about him as well.

Here we go again. Another fuck the south blog. Why? We know that Hip Hop started in NY. It's the birthplace, foundation, the Mecca..yadda yadda yaddda. We got love for all the forefathers. We got love for all the elements djing, emceeing, b-boying, graffiti.
The hip hop culture started in NY. It was a representation of what was going on in the streets. So why when other regions rep what they are doing, you NY niggas (Reckless) gotta hate? We are not NY, so we don't do what NY does. We have our own thing and we represent our culture. If we copied NY it would not be authentic. And you niggas would say we were biting your style. Damn get off the South's dick my nigga. Focus on NY and what yall need to do. Cause truth be told the South really don't give a fuck. We going to continue doing us. Regardless of what anybody thinks.

RECKLESS NUMBER ONE

KEEP UP NEW YORK!

FUCK THE SOUTH, THEIR MUSIC IS GARBAGE.

@Anonymous did i touch a nerve nigga, how can you say the young niggas aint make the game when we the ones that made it the most popular music out, fall back nigga. The reason why the old niggas couldnt talk about bling and whips was because thay were broke ass bums who couldnt make hit records. Letter to the president my ass, that shit didnt even make it through the post.

@teenagemutantnigga cosign like a motherfucka. These old tramp ass motherfuckers need to bow to the superior more improved young nigga, because we made this hip hop what it is with our creativity. If we wouldnt have come in and saved hip hop i dread to think what it would be like know. Young niggas stand up old niggas sit down.

Posted by: sexiestthugalive at November 20, 2006 09:24 AM

Ok. Now this makes sense this is sexiest homo co-signing himself what's the odds of someone just as dumb as you talking the same bullshit on here

@kingOFNC

i thought i would never say this but Nigga i Co-Sign!


@mafioso

yaeh i feel u.
i dont be on here that much neither.
now that i got my new helio mobile device(its not a phone lol!) i got myspace mobile so now they cant blcok at work LOL!

Your absolutly right!!! Kool Herc, Gran, and Afrikka Bambaata are walking memorials! Weve honored the dead long enough sheesh! let other rappers shine and stopped trying to lambast them all the time! Not to point fingers in any case, but not matter how much you try, 1986 cannot be made into 2006 really?

Based on the title I thought this was going to be a good blog. Then I read the Cham diss that came way from left field. Maybe you should have explained that remark. Anyway, since the blog started off on the wrong foot, I know it will only get worse so I'm out for the day. Damn Reckless you almost had it.

@ SOHH AS A WHOLE

PLEASE RELIEVE RECKLESS FROM HIS DUTIES ON THIS BLOG... HE IS DOING MORE DAMAGE TO HIP HOP THAN GOOD. HIS EFFECT IS SMALL YET NEGATIVE, AND NOT NECESSARY. THE IMPACT HE HAS WILL EFFECT SOHH.COM AS A WHOLE, AND ALL AFFILIATED. YOU ALL WOULD BE SMART TO RELIEVE HIM OF HIS DUTIES.

Ok. Now this makes sense this is sexiest homo co-signing himself what's the odds of someone just as dumb as you talking the same bullshit on here

Posted by: MY 2 CENTZ at November 20, 2006 10:40 AM

---LOL YUP... COSIGN...


@teenagemutantnigga

Dude you really need to learn your history before pop off at the mouth like that.

What tha business is djflame?
Back on topic:
SOHH Reckless Go Slap yourself for that Cham comment!
One thing that is killing Hip Hop/Rap that it has become stagnant creatively everthing has to a comercial package and I agree that there is no more artist development anymore.

WHY THE HELL DID U EVEN MENTION CHAM'S NAME IN UR BLOG? I WAS READING IT LIKE "MAYBE THIS CLOWN FINALLY WROTE SOMETHING POSITIVE AND CONSTRUCTIVE ABOUT NYC WITH TAKING ANY THING AWAY FROM THE SOUTH"

NOPE, I WAS WRONG

WHAT DID CHAM DO TO DESERVE GETTING CALLED OUT? RECLESS, DO NY A FAVOR AND SHOOT URSELF IN THE FACE WITH A HARPOON!

Good Morning all, I hate my job. (x_x)

Im the main nigga on this blog so im gonna break down the rules of this hip hop shit. Firstly if you over 32 get your ass off this blog, your time has passed your not allowed to listen to hip hop anymore. Secondly forget these old ass motherfuckers who are older than turtles, so we dont have to hear them talking shit like they still important. Lastly i am the youth of this hip hop, the person to carry the candle so we can get out the cave hypothetically(no applause... please) speaking and achieve even more greatness. The youth is the future the old are the past and should stay there and let us improve on there poor example they set.

FucK WORTHLESS I MEANT RECKLESS

@DIS yo my nigga are you gonna try and start some shit up in soulful? they was wonderin were you were abit ago. If you do ill be back in about an hour to check that shit out, i got work to do till then peace.

@ teenagemutantnigga

Actually it's your parents who carry hip hop right now they pay your allowance to buy the CD's. Also that’s what’s wrong with Hip Hop/Rap now the teenagers don't respect the past. When I was 16 we respected the old school and learned the lessons from if it the youth need to look back at the golden age of hip hop and find where we have lost or way and start to correct that.

If teenagemutantnigga made up the ages of every rapper, and signed of with

Free Alpo

who would he remind yall of?

I'm glad that we have older hiphop heads. Hiphop culture needs to grow up and stop being so materialistic, simple minded, and ignorant about the world around them. and all that comes with age.

@ teenagemutantnigga

Actually it's your parents who carry hip hop right now they pay your allowance to buy the CD's. Also that’s what’s wrong with Hip Hop/Rap now the teenagers don't respect the past. When I was 16 we respected the old school and learned the lessons from if it the youth need to look back at the golden age of hip hop and find where we have lost or way and start to correct that.

Yo Reckless...get a new job homey. You've contributed NOTHING to NOTHING...so where does that leave you.

What all ya'll cats on this blog need to do is stop using this particular blog as a "chat room"...then maybe SOHH admin will take noticed of Reckless not bein the man for the job. I'm sure he's only keepin his job on this blog due to number of posts. It ain't like he's doin anything for NY hip hop, let him burn out.

Regarding the post from the "originators" of rap...I might ruffle some feathers with this one. Folks been tapping on desks, strumming strings, blowing on sticks, humming...singing, making all kind music in their minds and putting words to beats far before any of them old timers did ANYTHING park. I don't personally feel that any one person or group can claim responsibility for hip hop.

They was just THAT person at THAT place at THAT time when it was SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. Cuz truth be told, if it wasn't them, it would've been someone else that did that thang.

These young heads nowadays don't have the experience of what it was like "before" hip hop and the early days of hip hop. Therefore, they can't appreciate the beginning. Just like we was all born with TVs in existence...so how can we really appreciate them. Or electricity...it goes with everything.

But what you "never heard" is whoever invented the TV putting out PSAs sayin "yo, I invented the TV...so take notice of the originator and how I used TVs." I know it may not be the best example, but grownfolks understand what I'm saying.

Nothing is new to God, everything is revealed in His timing. There are things yet to be discovered by man, but that doesn't mean that haven't existed from the beginning...waiting to be discovered. Men with all the pride of the flesh always finds a need to stand up and say "look what I did".

Hip Hop was destined to happen, and the world is about to find out why.

Now, with that said..I'm off this blog. I ain't addin no more posts in order to prevent the appearance that I'm contributing to Reckless's ingnorance by supporting the blog he is responsible for.

Christ Bless!
PZ

1 Timothy 1:15-17


I FIND IT AMAZING THAT ANYONE UNDER 30 CAN BE A REAL FAN OF THIS MUSIC THAT I LOVE. SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED THE GREATS. THE LITMUS TEST FOR BEING A TRUE HIP HOP FAN SHOULD BE IF YOU LIKE KRS ONE. IF YOU NEVER HEARD OF THE MAN THERE IS NO WAY YOU'RE A TRUE FAN

@teenagemutantnigga

Na homie the rules are as follow

1. If you have any reference of a Ninja turtle in your name your disqualified to make any statement on hip hop

2. If your mother still cooks and cleans your underoos your disqualified to make any statement of hip hop

3. If you own a fucking turtle period your disqualified.

4. Your statement "Lastly i am the youth of this hip hop" It's more like the toddler of this hip hop

5. Since you have a problem with grown ups go let your mom know she's too old. I'm sure she will find that amusing just don't expect to watch your ninja turtle cartoons and get your ninja turtle underoos washed anymore.


bobby drake

I already caught that. That is sexiest fag aka ninja fag

@ Elementry Guidance Counselor
Cosign x 2

How am i ignorant for not liking old school, they didnt make this shit popular. They just did it because they were broke and had nothing else to do, so how come they get any credit when we took it to the next level. And if we sent this nigga africa bambaata to africa to rap theyd send him back. These niggas yall mention are nobodys just street corner peasants trying to get a piggy back from the young successful hip hop niggas of 2006 not 1976.

3. If you own a fucking turtle period your disqualified.
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LMAO! End of discussion!

REAL TALK:


I should be writin' this damn blog.

teenagemutantnigga, man you probably hate the contribution of MLK, Rosa Parks and those likes to the advancement of blacks in general. Man you are a fraud to the fullest. So what the current generation "took it to the next level", where do you think they got their groundings? The likes of Flash and that generation. Building on past generations does not make those same generations pointless.

Like I said, you are a fraud.

@reckless, my nigga u definitely know how to instigate, got damn. lol but believe it or not, hiphop does live in the south and we will be here loving this music like we been doing. congradulation to grandmaster flash and all my pioneers of hiphop, thank you brothers..

@Elementry Guidance Counselor excuse me nigga, but were is there a ninja turtle in my name you dummy. Stop talking about cartoons which you used to watch when you were young, yeah when you used to paint yourself green and wair a purple headband and carry two forks, dont lie nigga.

EVERYDAY SOMEONE INTRUDES THE BLOG AND KNOCKS EVERYONE OFF TOPIC

KRS ONE

Buck buck buck-buck-buck, buck-buck buck buck!
All rude bwoy lissen up!
Black cop!! Black cop black cop black cop
Stop shootin black people, we all gonna drop
You don't even get, paid a whole lot
So take your M-60 and put it 'pon lock!
Take your four-five and you put it 'pon lock!
Lookin for your people when you walk down a block
Here in America you have drug spot
They get the black cop, to watch the drug spot
The black drug dealer just avoid black cop
They're killin each other on a East Coast block
Killin each other on a West Coast block
White police, don't give a care about dat
Dem want us killin each other over crack
Anyway you put it it's a black on BLACK
Black cop black cop black cop
Black cop black cop black cop
Thirty years, there were no black cops
You couldn't even run, drive round the block
Recently police trained black cop
To stand on the corner, and take gunshot
This type of warfare isn't new or a shock
It's black on black crime again nonSTOP
Black cop!! Black cop black cop
Black cop black cop black cop

"Don't be the sucker..
Don't be the sucker comin into my face..
Don't be the sucker.."

Here's what the West and the East have in common
Both have black cops in cars profilin
Hardcore kids in the West got stress
In the East we are chased by the same black beast
The black cop is the only real obstacle
Black slave turned black cop is not logical
But very psychological, haven't you heard?
It's the BLACK COP killin black kids in Johannesburg
Whassup black cop, yo, whassup?!
Your authorization says shoot your nation
You wanna uphold the law, what could you do to me?
The same law dissed the whole black community
You can't play both sides of the fence
1993 mad kids are gettin tense
Black cop!! Black cop black cop black cop
Stop shootin black people we all gonna drop
You don't even get, paid a whole lot
Take your four-five and you put it 'pon lock!
Take your M-60 and put it 'pon lock!
Take your uzi, put it 'pon lock!
Black cop black cop black cop
Black cop black cop black cop

"Don't be the sucker..
Don't be the sucker..
Don't be the sucker..
Don't be the sucker comin into my face
Don't.. don't be the sucker comin into my face
Don't-don't-don't be the sucker comin into my face
Don't-don't-don't-don't
Don't be the sucker comin into my face
Don't-don't, don't-don't
Don't be the sucker comin into my face
Don't-don't-don't!
Don't be the sucker comin into my face with that yang-yang!"

HIP HOP VS RAP

You you can't can't be be ripping the mic the mic
like do re me me measels are contagious like my lyrical pages
ripping and flipping the mic
from back in the back in the days the days its kinda hectic hectic
when these suckas don't respect it, check it. Flame on.
I know the light is bright but keep on watching me
I'm stolen property, kicking the flavor to society.
Police be clocking me, but logically they got to be
cause they were taught that serious poetry would come from Socrates.
But that ain't it, in 94 I'll kick the hit
and if I was in front of Shakespear, battle a punk and take his shit.
I'm not having it,
bust a narrative and come to get with it.
Rap is something you do, hip hop is something you live.
The difference is kids nowadays, they got the videos.
Rappers don't need skills to build so they don't really know.
Hear me yo, I'm four times on Arsenio,
got ten videos, but does that help me flow? No.
That's why when I come to the show MC's act like they don't know
cause they were too young to rock up in the disco
Frisco disco the disc is like a Nabisco
chocolate chip cookie, don't fuck with me rookie.
I'm rocking beats and
with death defying feats and
I'm never sneaking
always peeping when I'm speaking
inside I'm keeping a statement for police and
I'm down for peace and but not turn the other cheek and
so this DJ, he gets down
mixing records while they go
round and round round we go
two years ago a friend of mine
and Flash is gonna rock your mind
welcome to the Terrordome, the Terrordome
I wonder if I take you home
E-F-F-E-C-T a cool operator operating correctly
but back in the day I knew rap would never die
too late baby bwai
bai in a body boy head head
head insane in the membrane
take the train, take the train
M-E-T-H-O-D Man
'Hattan keeps on making it
Brooklyn keeps on taking it
We keep coming back with more and more hits
party people, I came through the door, I said it before
Two years ago, super hoe
If my train goes off the track,
pick it up, pick it up, pick it up back back
back to the grill again, the grill again
friends
how many MC's must get dissed?
Before somebody says don't fuck with Chris
Hey! Ho! Keep on moving don't stop no
body beats the Biz
Let's do the dance called the Pee Wee Herman
Hey, Erick Sermon, Hey
you you get off my cloud,
go down baby, go down baby, the gods must be crazy
you ain't fresh, you ain't fresh
Yeah!

@Elementry Guidance Counselor excuse me nigga, but were is there a ninja turtle in my name you dummy.

Posted by: teenagemutantnigga at November 20, 2006 11:41 AM

Your real fuckin stupid if you don't see that one..............LMAO

How am i ignorant for not liking old school, they didnt make this shit popular. They just did it because they were broke and had nothing else to do, so how come they get any credit when we took it to the next level. And if we sent this nigga africa bambaata to africa to rap theyd send him back. These niggas yall mention are nobodys just street corner peasants trying to get a piggy back from the young successful hip hop niggas of 2006 not 1976.

Posted by: teenagemutantnigga at November 20, 2006 11:31 AM

If it wasn't for their contributions t Hip Hop would be here. Yes the point is to innovate but you don't forget where you came from. I bet you also don't know how Hip Hop and Reggae are connected do you? Scratching lead to finding the break beat which lead to sampling then came the drum machine which leads us to production today (If I am missing anything or got anything wrong anybody feel free to correct me). If you had the respect and knowledge of Hip Hop you wouldn’t be on here making these comments.

ATL Colli Park

The only thing that kid knows is what time the Ninja Turtles come on TV

I think if the kid can get some science then he might respect the past. Thats the job of the old heads and cats like us who remember the golden age and what true skills are.

@ATL Colli Park ive got major respect for my people but i think they exaggerate the importance of these supposed icons. An icon to me is someone everybody recognises, if these niggas was walking down the street i wouldnt have a fucking clue even if grandmaster was carrying his decks.

I give props to flash for supporting all types off hip-hop. His vision is why hip-hop has gotten so far.

Check out hi-flitones.com

If they hadn't of done what they did then Hip Hop might have been different or maybe not existed at all. They layed the ground work thats why they get that respect.

I think blacks need to get out of hip-hop all together. Let whites start rappin' cause we are more intelligent and creative, and let blacks take over the majority of pro sports... Not bein' racist but it would make both things that much more entertaining.

im just gonna fall back and let htownmike teenmutant and homothug take over.
respect to my nigga flash.when he was on the tables whyle fab 5 looked on in WYLD STYLE and did the back spin you just knew he was destined to be one of the few icons of this culture.

I think blacks need to get out of hip-hop all together. Let whites start rappin' cause we are more intelligent and creative, and let blacks take over the majority of pro sports... Not bein' racist but it would make both things that much more entertaining.

Posted by: htownmike at November 20, 2006 12:33 PM

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Can we go one day without your stupid ass comments? We all know you want the attention. I guess ingorance works for you. So So Sad.

IN THE NAME OF THE USUAL SUSPECTS, U, HTOWNMIKE, R OFFICIALLY BARRED FROM THIS BLOG, FOR MAKING SUCH AN ASSININE STATEMENT.

triple co-sign.
its long overdue.

So I assume nothins really poppin in NYC (still) seein asthough yall gotta rehash the careers of old rappers from the 80's an its almost 2007. That post was only helpful in exposing all the old school andy ass niggas on hear reminising about stainwashed jeans and "stupid fresh" beats. NYC is sad just like this blog.

IN THE NAME OF THE USUAL SUSPECTS, U, HTOWNMIKE, R OFFICIALLY BARRED FROM THIS BLOG, FOR MAKING SUCH AN ASSININE STATEMENT.

Posted by: Huey Freeman at November 20, 2006 12:46 PM

I co-sign, that shit should have been happened. But once again, Reckless is Useless.

RECKLESS, if u want to make up for some of them lame as blogs, u should ban this ignorant fools IP address.

RECKLESS, if u want to make up for some of them lame as blogs, u should ban this ignorant fools IP address.

Posted by: bobby drake at November 20, 2006 01:21 PM

I second the motion

REAL TALK:


I should be writin' this damn blog.

Posted by: htownmike at November 20, 2006 11:34 AM

SHUT THE FUCK UP H TOWN COCKROACH.
THIS IS A NY BLOG WTF ARE U CORNY
NIGGAZ DOING HERE ANYWAYS?

FUCK THE SOUTH AND POAY RESPECT WHO
PREPARED THE STAGE FOR YOU TO EAT.

UR DUMBED DOWN TRASH MUSIC IZ STRAIGHT ASSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You youngn's have to learn were you came from before you can get some were, yall need to be spanked for even disrespecting Grand Master Flash name like that. But I see it's too late to teach yall manners, but yall better wise up to wha t really goin on in life and learn somethings, cause in school they taught History and this is what most of yall teenagers need schoolin in HIP-HOP, It's never too late I think I still got some ol school mix tapes. Shawty!

What up people...
Quick Question...

Who is a better EMCEE ??
Dre 3000 or Eminem...

This is just skills at the table.....

Anywayz....

HOW 'BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!

NEW YORK AINT SAFE NO MORE!!

Chamillionaire or tony yayo? Slim Thug or Jim Jones? Trick Daddy or Diddy? I think the south has y'all beat on this one. Ballin'!! Chicken noodle soup, chicken noodle soup...HAHAHA!! I'd rather lean wit it rock wit it.

Ya misuse something, and it's taken from ya. Hip Hop has been misused for too long...time to take it back, in Christ's name.

Glory to God..SOHH.COM posted up that PZ "MySpot".

The Kingdom Is Coming, and Jay-Z is invited!

Christ Bless!
PZ

1 Timothy 1:15-17

Who is a better EMCEE ??
Dre 3000 or Eminem...

This is just skills at the table.....

Posted by: ihadnochoice at November 20, 2006 02:07 PM

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3000 all day ev'day. Dre is a more complete mc. You really have to study his rhymes to understand where he's coming from. Em is nice and has sick flow. But he can not compete with Dre. Besides both of their styles are different. It's like comparing apples and oranges.

Chamillionaire or tony yayo? Slim Thug or Jim Jones? Trick Daddy or Diddy?
all those rappers except cham are wack.what is your point?

why dont you compare some real niggas.nas,jigga,kiss,loaded lux,murda mook,styles p,son i can go on but i think you get the point.

@ihadnochoice EMINEM is straight up better than ANDRE period, the best in the rap game. Hes just a better rapper simple as that.

I think blacks need to get out of hip-hop all together. Let whites start rappin' cause we are more intelligent and creative, and let blacks take over the majority of pro sports... Not bein' racist but it would make both things that much more entertaining.

Posted by: htownmike at November 20, 2006 12:33 PM


AMAZING!!!!

NY is the birthplace of hip hop, but if you wanna get technical, couldnt we say Mississippi is the original home of hip hop and all music period. All forms of music was started from these musicians down here in MS, for example, Blues, Rock, Soul, Gospel, Everything. Hip Hop, Rap originates from these Mississippi Roots. Considering most people got fam who originated from Mississippi. So to all you NY folks, who say Hip Hop originated in NY, think again. Cus MS folks been rhyming, making beats in their heads, and all that since the slavery time. Yall were just the first to make Rap mainstream. So really, NYC is what made Rap mainstream. Not placing blame on anybody, but how u gonna put a blame on a certain region for mainstream rap, when yall was the first to make rap mainstream and known to the World.

Shoutout to all my Mississipians: Folks wanna claim they hoods the hardest and brag about livin in projects. They needa step and live the life of Mississippians where majority of the folks is black and the poorest state in the US. These folks dont know the real def of hood and poverty ya dig.

The first record that I ever bought was Sugarhill Gang's "Rapper's Delight". I am a child of hip hop and I am from Houston, TX. I was at every Fresh Fest that came to Houston...I had the pleasure to see Run DMC, Whodini, LL Cool J.... I have seen hip hop all it's stages...from the party days Kool Moe Dee, to Socially Conscience days Public Enemy, to Gangsta Rap NWA and back to party ( Diddy and Biggie) to the bling bling era...So don't tell me that I don't know hip hop....I love Afrika Bambata & Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five.. I am a child of Hip Hop....and I'm from Houston, TX....

@ihadnochoice EMINEM is straight up better than ANDRE period, the best in the rap game. Hes just a better rapper simple as that.

Posted by: mafioso at November 20, 2006 02:40 PM

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LMAO. THE BEST RAPPER IN THE GAME...LOL. DO YOU LISTEN TO THE MUSIC OR DO YOU JUST SKIM THRU IT? EVERYONE HAS THEY OWN OPINIONS THOUGH. I AINT MAD AT CHA.

WELL PUT

@ihadnochoice EMINEM is straight up better than ANDRE period, the best in the rap game. Hes just a better rapper simple as that.

Posted by: mafioso at November 20, 2006 02:40 PM

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LMAO...EM THE BEST RAPPER IN THE GAME...BETTER THAN 3000...LOL. DO YOU CATCH THE LINES AND THE HOOKS OR ARE YOU STILL FISHING. EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN OPINION SO I AINT MAD AT CHA.

New York New York

The city so nice, we had to beat em 2wice!!!

CROWN OUR ASS!!!!


callin Chamillionaire an idiot was unecessary though. i'm from the Chi, and damn do u hate. I don't even usually call haters haters, but every blog you throw lil pot shots at the South... that just false, doggy. Cham was a humble (blowed, but humble) dude at them ATL HipHop Awards brought to you by BET. I ain't mad at him.


THEY ARE WHO YOU THOUGHT THEY WERE...

DA BEARS!

CLICK THA NAME, SEE WHAT ALL THE FUSS IS ABOUT...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=120054828860&rd=1&rd=1

U know Hip Hop used 2 be all about having a good time

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Amazing! But when the South does it its not hip hop somehow. I know I left off the rest of the statement but that had to be said.

Get the Fuck out Lames.

Much love to all free thinking hip hop heads.

Who is a better EMCEE ??
Dre 3000 or Eminem...

This is just skills at the table.....

Posted by: ihadnochoice at November 20, 2006 02:07 PM
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LOL. Em even says Dre 3k is better in one of his tracks.

@ Mississippi
Cosign 100%

All forms of music was created there, so they must've been doing this Hip Hop stuff way before the other regions. Its funny though, cus MS prolly one of the originators of this hip hop but they got some of the fewest rappers in the game and the rappers they do got are all underground.

Well anyways, this North Carolina hip hop scene is poppin right now and we bout to bring real hip hop back. Def Jam:Carolinas is on the way:Artists from North and South Carolina, Little Brother gonna blow with thier album, GetBack, in stores Jan. Ricky Ruckus gonna blow, reppin that Tre-Fo, Winston Slums. Brandon D gonna blow, M.O.S signed to Jive and gotta tight single. Bow Boa gotta smash single and he gonna blow. Kenney G gonna blow, *Free Kenney G*, them Illspitta Boyz, D.D.E boyz and A.O.G gonna blow, and hell theres just so much more. Be on the lookout for them Carolinas.

The Ghost is back prepare for the massacre,
the gun and the knife and the bat and the gloves and the mask and the rope are on the seat of the passenger,

And when you say you hard I'm a laugh at ya
-SP

Well anyways, this North Carolina hip hop scene is poppin right now and we bout to bring real hip hop back. Def Jam:Carolinas is on the way:Artists from North and South Carolina, Little Brother gonna blow with thier album, GetBack, in stores Jan. Ricky Ruckus gonna blow, reppin that Tre-Fo, Winston Slums. Brandon D gonna blow, M.O.S signed to Jive and gotta tight single. Bow Boa gotta smash single and he gonna blow. Kenney G gonna blow, *Free Kenney G*, them Illspitta Boyz, D.D.E boyz and A.O.G gonna blow, and hell theres just so much more. Be on the lookout for them Carolinas.

Posted by: NorthCak336 at November 20, 2006 03:12 PM

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DAMN HOMIE. GOOD TO SEE AN NC FACE IN THE PLACE. I LIVE IN DC NOW BUT I STAY REPPIN THA 336 ALL DAY. YEAH WE ON THE COME UP. I USED TO LISTEN TO LIL RICK(RICKY RUCKUS) ON 102 FOR THE FREESTYLE BATTLES. DUDE IS REAL NICE. THAT TRACK BRANDON D. HAD "HEART OF CACK CACK" WAS THAT HEAT. AND LITTLE BROTHER ON DECK TO DROP ANOTHER CLASSIC. SINCE YOU IN THE 336(TRE-FO, THE BORO, THE POINT AKA THE CITY). WHAT CLUBS IS STILL POPPING. ATLANTIS?

Let me backup a little on my earlier statement, i believe it came across a little more bluntly than i intended...

I feel most of you agree that without blacks in say... basketball for instance. Watching an nba game would be fairly boring!!! am i right??? i'm sure you all would say, yes. There is nothing racist about that, as it is simply fact. Physically blacks are better athletes... it's just how God made us all... no harm no foul.

However we'd all also agree a minimal number of whites are good at basketball and some better than blacks... your larry birds, stocktons of old, there are some.

On a large scale blacks are better.

2.) I am not saying that whites are smarter, but on average like blacks with basketball, whites have a larger vocabulary and are better with words, and if they were to become more predominant in this rap game, we would excel far beyond than the current will likely lead hip hop... are there great black rappers, OF COURSE... but i would be willing to bet the bank if there were more whites allowed to rap in this game without the fault of "no street cred" strictly lyrics... the skills of your jay-z's and your nas' (no disrespect to them) would not seem as out of this world as currently percieved...

That is all i'm sayin'

On that note...

"i'm still livin'" z-ro's album is fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One of his best...

whites have a larger vocabulary and are better with words
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Thats the whole problem with your argument. You are basically saying "blacks are ignorant".

Stop Trying.

We don't believe you, you need more people.

whites have a larger vocabulary and are better with words
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Thats the whole problem with your argument. You are basically saying "blacks are ignorant".

Stop Trying.

We don't believe you, you need more people.

Posted by: Animate at November 20, 2006 03:35 PM

---I understand your argument and see where you are coming from, but your argument is based on emotion. I am not saying blacks are ignorant, no more than i say all whites are unathletic. I am saying as a majority blacks are more athletic than whites... and i'm saying as a majority whites have better vocabulary and speaking skills than blacks. Not racist, it's just what i feel is true... You have you larry birds in basketball just as you have your condoleeza's in regards to speaking, i'm talking majority though, by your statement you are letting your heart get ahead of your head (no pun intended) and missing my point completely...

and i'm saying as a majority whites have better vocabulary and speaking skills than blacks. Not racist, it's just what i feel is true...

Posted by: htownmike at November 20, 2006 03:42 PM

you are absurd!!!!

@ KingOfNC

Yea, club Atlantis still poppin, Club Montague poppin, the Chrome Room in Winston is whats up and that strip club, the Sugarbear always been poppin. Oh yea, cant forget Club Platinum. Theres many more but them is whats really jumpin right now. But yea, homie keep on reppin the homeland, cus soon we gonna bring that real hip hop to the game and we gonna be the next ATL in the game with rap artist poppin everyday. Except we wont be with all the snappin and dancing like them A-Town boys

@ huey

I have never had a problem with you, other than occasionaly i feel you go overboard with that sun, god, moon, mumbo jumbo... I still don't get that stuff... but whatever.

My comments are hip hop related so why do you feel the need to tell me my opinion is not welcome? That is why so many blacks do not prosper in society, they think i'm attacking their race and intelligence, when in fact i'm just stating an opinion i have. No more no less. Get off your high horse, stop being so defensive, and if you are as enlightened as you portray yourself to be than be open to my opinion with out outlashing against someone who has a viewpoint that differs from you.

it's just what i feel is true
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And thats why its called an opinion. You have yours, I have mine. No love lost though.

2.) I am not saying that whites are smarter, but on average like blacks with basketball, whites have a larger vocabulary and are better with words, and if they were to become more predominant in this rap game, we would excel far beyond than the current will likely lead hip hop... are there great black rappers, OF COURSE... but i would be willing to bet the bank if there were more whites allowed to rap in this game without the fault of "no street cred" strictly lyrics... the skills of your jay-z's and your nas' (no disrespect to them) would not seem as out of this world as currently percieved...

That is all i'm sayin'

Posted by: htownmike at November 20, 2006 03:27 PM

Wow! So I guess Vanilla Ice, Everlast, Pete Nice, The Beasties, Kid Rock and all of them white guys have made Jay and Nas look illiterate.

I can name more white guys that have tried to flip the game. All those guys have credibility but they are not even in the ballpark with Eminem, who by the way is in the ballpark with Nas and Jay.

Mike, that opinion is for lack of a better word, stupid. I guess I left my vocabulary at home today.

I have never had a problem with you, other than occasionaly i feel you go overboard with that sun, god, moon, mumbo jumbo... I still don't get that stuff... but whatever.

Posted by: htownmike at November 20, 2006 04:03 PM

ITS NOT MEANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND
YOU ARE A WHITE DEVIL
AND YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THAT BLACK MEN ARE GODS...

@ KingOfNC

Yea, club Atlantis still poppin, Club Montague poppin, the Chrome Room in Winston is whats up and that strip club, the Sugarbear always been poppin. Oh yea, cant forget Club Platinum. Theres many more but them is whats really jumpin right now. But yea, homie keep on reppin the homeland, cus soon we gonna bring that real hip hop to the game and we gonna be the next ATL in the game with rap artist poppin everyday. Except we wont be with all the snappin and dancing like them A-Town boys

Posted by: NorthCak336 at November 20, 2006 03:54 PM

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I AINT BEEN TO NC IN A YEAR IN A HALF. I MIGHT BE DOWN THERE CHRISTMAS DEPENDING ON MY WORK SCHEDULE. DAMN I FORGOT ALL ABOUT SUGABEARS. HAD MANY A DRUNK NIGHTS AND SPENT MANY A DOLLARS UP IN THAT BITCH. I LOVE WINSTON. THE GARDENS, PIEDMONT CIRCLE I STAYED FUCKIN SOMETHING. I AINT EVEN GONNA START ON GREENSBORO. RAY WARREN, SMITH AND HAMPTON HOMES. HIGH POINT ROAD ON THE WEEKENDS OR A&T AND WSSU HOMECOMING. DAMN MAKE A NIGGA HOMESICK. GOOD TO KNOW NC STILL IN HOLDING IT DOWN. YEAH MAKE SURE THEM BOYS DON'T DO THAT GAY ASS SNAP SHIT. WE AINT THE ATL. PEACE DOG.

htowndyke you have been banished.with your bitch ass.the sad thing is your like all those other racists white people who dont even know there racist.

Damn Htown....
I see some things never change huh...

wow man when will new york give up and just accept that they time they had controlling the game is gone man lolo flash needs to sit his cry baby as down just because he aint making money no more he dont gottah hate on nobody.and for all you bitch ass back packers who reading this suck a dick because right now i beat yall reading this and gettin man if yall really knew anything hip hop came from reggae-dancehall music but no one gives props to them none what so ever and if you dont belive me go check out the dvd history of b-boy and kool herc says it himself that he got the foundation of hip hop from dancehall whne he grew up in jamaica .before he came to new york on cypress ave but im out south for eva

THE SOUTH (ESPCIALLY HOUSTON) VS. THE WORLD I'M FROM THA SOUTH YALL HEARD WHAT FAT JOE SAID (WHY IS EVERYBODY SO MAD AT THE SOUTH FOR CHANGE UP YA GAME SWITCH TO SOUTHPAW).

Here's something for Teenage Mutant to think about. Rappers today might have so-called better flows and better beats, but one day, YOUR favorite rapper is gonna be 45 years old, and some young punk is gonna come along and say he's washed up. True artistry and talent never dies. I grew up on Nas, Wu-Tang, Boot Camp, etc. But any true hip-hop head knows that Rakim, Kool G Rap, and KRS One can STILL lay the smackdown on Jenny Jones, Layme, Cheezy, Young Cock, and whoever is supposed to be hot TO THIS DAY - regardless of sales or spins. Respect the architects.

Wow! So I guess Vanilla Ice, Everlast, Pete Nice, The Beasties, Kid Rock and all of them white guys have made Jay and Nas look illiterate.

I can name more white guys that have tried to flip the game. All those guys have credibility but they are not even in the ballpark with Eminem, who by the way is in the ballpark with Nas and Jay.

Mike, that opinion is for lack of a better word, stupid. I guess I left my vocabulary at home today.

Posted by: Easy F Baby at November 20, 2006 04:08 PM


--- You and i both know i was not saying ALL white people... all those artists you mentioned are jokes with the exception of em and beastie... you are still missing my point i'm afraid. Let me be a little more clear to you all what my point exactly is:

IF WHITES ACCOUNTED FOR 50% OF HIPHOP "SUPERSTARS" STARTING TODAY 15 YEARS FROM NOW I BELIEVE 7 OF THE TOP 10 LYRICISTS WOULD BE WHITE MALES

@EVERYONE i think htownmike is right, black people are physically better generally and white people are mentally more intelligent. I mean look at all the great inventors, scientists they all are white and dont give me that stuff about black people were poor and shit because alot of the greatest scientists didnt have shit niether. And look at Europe and Africa, i dont even need to explain that.

i hate to say it but dude got a point.

@EVERYONE i think htownmike is right, black people are physically better generally and white people are mentally more intelligent. I mean look at all the great inventors, scientists they all are white and dont give me that stuff about black people were poor and shit because alot of the greatest scientists didnt have shit niether. And look at Europe and Africa, i dont even need to explain that.

Posted by: Trillest at November 20, 2006 04:52 PM


--- my point exactly, and it's refreshing to find someone who can actually step back from emotions and take an educated reasonable viewpoint... These cats are calling me racists, actually need to do some inner examination i believe.

teenagemutantnigga,

YOU A FUNNY STYLE NIGGA FOR REAL - A RECKLESS TALKING FAGGOT. A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD'NT RECOGNIZE ALOT OF GREAT PEOPLE DOES'NT MAKE THEM ANYLESS OF A ICON. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ALL ARE RESPONDING TO THIS FAGGOT, CAUSE REAL TALK - AND HE KNOWS IT - HE'D GET PUNCHED IN HIS FACE LIKE THE FAGGOT HE IS IF HE GOT CAUGHT FACE TO FACE TALKING RECKLESS LIKE THAT
PUNK MUTHAFUCKA

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Posted by: The Playa at November 20, 2006 04:49 PM


----- LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at those names!!!

ITS NOT MEANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND
YOU ARE A WHITE DEVIL
AND YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THAT BLACK MEN ARE GODS...

Posted by: DRUGSFORU at November 20, 2006 04:09 PM

LOL

Listen, it's scum like you who keep the racist flag up. What you're saying is straight up racist, real talk.
Most of the popular rappers these days can't even talk straight. "Nahmean", sizzle dizzle, please learn to talk properly. An entire generation of juveniles with no orientation is looking up to degenerates and they risk their future by talking like idiots.
Face it, if you go to a job interview, you have to turn the ghetto off.
If they send you home it is not because the employer is racist, it is because you do not have the required qualifications.
I work with spics, kikes and crackers and I don't give a shit. I do my job, get paid and stay out of trouble. I never bought into this 'blacks are gods' bullshit, what kind of gods are we when we shoot ourselves up in the hood? I try to buy myself a house while my old class mates brag about their stolen chain. This is not good and if you think so you are a fucking moron who has no future.
I don't care about your color, I care about my pay check, because this will ensure my future, not some delusional "we are better than You" divider mission.
It's 2006, it's not where you're from, it's where you're at.
It is your own fault if you still live in the ghetto. There are so many ways out, but if you prefer the club daily and the rims and the chains then you deserve to stay where you are.
You are a disgrace to blacks and you should be ashamed of yourself. We have moved up, trash like you will always be the stereotypical coon act.
Black men are gods, is that your excuse that you fuck up your life by believing in this nonsense? Negro please.

@EVERYONE i think htownmike is right, black people are physically better generally and white people are mentally more intelligent. I mean look at all the great inventors, scientists they all are white and dont give me that stuff about black people were poor and shit because alot of the greatest scientists didnt have shit niether. And look at Europe and Africa, i dont even need to explain that.

Posted by: Trillest at November 20, 2006 04:52 PM

A FOOL IS BORN EVERY SECOND

"I work with spics, kikes and crackers and I don't give a shit."

Listen, it's scum like you who keep the racist flag up. What you're saying is straight up racist, real talk.


shut the fuck up.really do us all a favor.your post made no sense.

ITS NOT MEANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND
YOU ARE A WHITE DEVIL
AND YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THAT BLACK MEN ARE GODS...

Posted by: DRUGSFORU at November 20, 2006 04:09 PM

LOL

Listen, it's scum like you who keep the racist flag up. What you're saying is straight up racist, real talk.
Most of the popular rappers these days can't even talk straight. "Nahmean", sizzle dizzle, please learn to talk properly. An entire generation of juveniles with no orientation is looking up to degenerates and they risk their future by talking like idiots.
Face it, if you go to a job interview, you have to turn the ghetto off.
If they send you home it is not because the employer is racist, it is because you do not have the required qualifications.
I work with spics, kikes and crackers and I don't give a shit. I do my job, get paid and stay out of trouble. I never bought into this 'blacks are gods' bullshit, what kind of gods are we when we shoot ourselves up in the hood? I try to buy myself a house while my old class mates brag about their stolen chain. This is not good and if you think so you are a fucking moron who has no future.
I don't care about your color, I care about my pay check, because this will ensure my future, not some delusional "we are better than You" divider mission.
It's 2006, it's not where you're from, it's where you're at.
It is your own fault if you still live in the ghetto. There are so many ways out, but if you prefer the club daily and the rims and the chains then you deserve to stay where you are.
You are a disgrace to blacks and you should be ashamed of yourself. We have moved up, trash like you will always be the stereotypical coon act.
Black men are gods, is that your excuse that you fuck up your life by believing in this nonsense? Negro please.

Posted by: The Doc at November 20, 2006 05:05 PM


For the record I was raised in the projects of Philly. I now live in the the most exclusive neighborhood on the west coast.

The details are not important

I worked my way to the top and I am never looking back. My life is good and I will not let you or others discourage black men such as myself. The point is white men fear black men. They create policies to hold us back and throw us in prison over nothing. I know my history and it's apparent that you don't.

I work with spics, kikes and crackers and I don't give a shit. I do my job, get paid and stay out of trouble. I never bought into this 'blacks are gods' bullshit, what kind of gods are we when we shoot ourselves up in the hood?

Posted by: The Doc at November 20, 2006 05:05 PM


You are sad and that's why guys like you live paycheck to paycheck.

You hate yourself and its clear.

Thats why I fly back and forth from one coast to the other. I am living dude. I am the same dude you can't look at in the eye. A Black King who knows his worth and will never settle.

2.) I am not saying that whites are smarter, but on average like blacks with basketball, whites have a larger vocabulary and are better with words, and if they were to become more predominant in this rap game, we would excel far beyond than the current will likely lead hip hop... are there great black rappers, OF COURSE... but i would be willing to bet the bank if there were more whites allowed to rap in this game without the fault of "no street cred" strictly lyrics... the skills of your jay-z's and your nas' (no disrespect to them) would not seem as out of this world as currently percieved...

That is all i'm sayin'

Posted by: htownmike at November 20, 2006 03:27 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The diference is this..

If u put a black kid in a good school, he would be just as smart as any white kid. and he would still be a good athlete.

And if u put a black kid in a bad school, he wouldn't be as smart, but he'd still be a good athlete.

a white kid in a good school is smart but won't be a good athlete no matter what school he's in.

So in a sense, black people are the superior race. we are capable of being just as smart as white people at the same time, be twice as athletic.

White people have been far more advanced than the black man for thousands of years. We were building and creating empires when the black man was still chasing tigers with a spear. Thats not to be offensive, but we had big ships and built great civilisations when the black man was still in a cave or lived in a tree in the jungle.

HTOWNMIKE HAS WON AGAIN. ONCE YOU(WE) STOP PAYING THIS FOOL NO ATTENTION. HE'LL GO AWAY. RESPONDING IS ONLY ADDING FUEL TO A SPARK. HE GETS OFF ON THIS. THAT'S WHY HE USES RACIAL SLURS AND SAYS IGNORANT STATEMENT. TO GET YORT ATTENTION. TO ENGAGE IN POINTLESS CONVERSTION. HE IS A CERTIFIED RACIST, POINT BLANK. SO WHY EVEN TRY TO REASON WITH HIM. HE KNOWS WE'RE NEVER GONNA SEE HIM FACE TO FACE SO HE JUST DOES THIS BECAUSE HE KNOWS HE CAN. LET THIS CRACKER, WIGGER, RACIST FADE THE FUCK OUT. IF YOU RESPOND TO ANY OF HIS COMMENTS FROM THIS DAY FORTH, YOU ARE JUST AS GUILTY AS HIM.

Htown...It may be the African American people that you are with contact with...let's not forget, I am from Houston, Tx...your great President Bush said Yall on national tv and he's from Texas...he is not the most intelligent individual...please do not get it twisted, we have some of the intelligent and articulate speakers in the world..ie Oprah Winfrey, Maya Angelou, James Earl Jones....you really need to free your mind and get off of that down south mentality.....

Peace and Blessings

On a side note:

@ k-boogie...

I have no problem with bush saying ya'll i mean that's not an issue with education that's part of the language/speech we are raised on in texas... i mean take note i type "ya'll" damn near everytime i post at sometime or another, so no prob with that... but incase anybody cares i officially have changed my stance on George W. Bush... it's been along time coming but i am now pissed at this man and it's time for him to do something and step up and make a change with this war... i've supported his ass for sooooo long and defended him in conversation, but htownmike is finally done with him, but that's another story...

@ anonymous

You're just a hater. God forbid i like to talk about important stuff that impacts people. Grow some balls and at least post under your name so i can defend myself. I'll address you no more. Be gone.


White people have been far more advanced than the black man for thousands of years. We were building and creating empires when the black man was still chasing tigers with a spear. Thats not to be offensive, but we had big ships and built great civilisations when the black man was still in a cave or lived in a tree in the jungle.

Posted by: Trillest at November 20, 2006 05:20 PM

--- I agree with where you were going, but that last statement coulda been taken as a little racist... be easy we're all workin' for the same goal... i've found speaking with respect gets more respectful conversation, but yes some of these cats just refuse to listen at all so them don't waste your time trying to make a point.

LAST BUT DEF NOT LEAST:

@ BOBBY DRAKE

GOD DANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD POINT YOU MADE... HTOWNMIKE HAS TO GIVE YOU THAT ONE...LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUNNY TOO


And look at Europe and Africa, i dont even need to explain that.

Posted by: Trillest at November 20, 2006 04:52 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Man get over this crap ass argument. Look at the history of these places before responding. Who knows what things would have been like if Africa was not ravaged by the slave trade of America.

West upper...

all im going to say is your name speaks for it's self reckless.

i honestly dont know why you hate 50 you have that reckless commenting shit in common...

CHAM is a humble dude who gave props to ALL of hiphop...

man stop on Cham and save your uneccesary hate for the unit like you love doing...

What up people...
Quick Question...

Who is a better EMCEE ??
Dre 3000 or Eminem...

This is just skills at the table.....

Posted by: ihadnochoice at November 20, 2006 02:07 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Em says Dre is better. I agree, however in a one on one (on stage in front of a crowd) battle I think Em will eat Dre. Overall though 3000 is that dude. I'll buy an Eminem and 3000 compilation album before I would buy a Nas and Jay-Z album. Sure Jay and Nas will have all the hoes and the thuggins on it but the E and 3 album will have EVERYBODY!!

For the record I was raised in the projects of Philly. I now live in the the most exclusive neighborhood on the west coast.

The details are not important

I worked my way to the top and I am never looking back. My life is good and I will not let you or others discourage black men such as myself. The point is white men fear black men. They create policies to hold us back and throw us in prison over nothing. I know my history and it's apparent that you don't.

Posted by: DRUGSFORU at November 20, 2006 05:11 PM

I will not address your previous post, it is too ignorant and too dumb to deserve a response.

You made your way to the top, good for you. The details are not important? So you are criminal maggot, an individual that has made money of the misery of others, feeding your own community with drugs - you are scum, literally.
White mean might fear black men, but they don't respect them. I don't respect you either. So what do you want to do, "shootmeup"? You will always be a project child, a primitive and disgusting idiot.
I do get respect and people like me who integrate in the real world and don't live their lives on Hip Hop planet do more for a positive reputation for blacks than you will ever do. Trash like you just confirms the modern day coon act.
What I say is encouraging and not discouraging. Not for racists like you, I mean real people. Whatever you have will be taken away, and since you have no dignoty nor morals, tyhere will be nothing left to for a criminal like you. People like you bring our race down to its knees. Again, the color means nothing anymore. Criminals like you should be removed from this world, forever.
Education is the key word to make it in this world, not stealing, robbing and pillaging because you are too dumb to do anything else.
Shame on you. Or in you black gods garbage, 'knowledge doesn't equal wisdom".

That was me.

Grandmaster Flash, changed the D.J. game in such a major way that his trailblazing techniques still reverberate throughout the world till this day.
Owning a Flash tape back in "The Bronx" and throughout the NYC in the late 70's and early 80's meant that you was one cool and happening N*$$@, and was Down By Law.
Congratulations to "Grandmaster Flash" in all his achievements and accolades, you are truly an Hip Hop revolutionary.
Go out and buy any Flash CD at your local music outlet so you can experience true authentic Hip Hop!......
Peace and Love to The Bronx - always creating and never imitating - that's how real Bronx N*$$@s roll!!!.

I will not address your previous post, it is too ignorant and too dumb to deserve a response.

You made your way to the top, good for you. The details are not important? So you are criminal maggot, an individual that has made money of the misery of others, feeding your own community with drugs - you are scum, literally.
White mean might fear black men, but they don't respect them. I don't respect you either. So what do you want to do, "shootmeup"? You will always be a project child, a primitive and disgusting idiot.
I do get respect and people like me who integrate in the real world and don't live their lives on Hip Hop planet do more for a positive reputation for blacks than you will ever do. Trash like you just confirms the modern day coon act.
What I say is encouraging and not discouraging. Not for racists like you, I mean real people. Whatever you have will be taken away, and since you have no dignoty nor morals, tyhere will be nothing left to for a criminal like you. People like you bring our race down to its knees. Again, the color means nothing anymore. Criminals like you should be removed from this world, forever.
Education is the key word to make it in this world, not stealing, robbing and pillaging because you are too dumb to do anything else.
Shame on you. Or in you black gods garbage, 'knowledge doesn't equal wisdom".

Posted by: The Doc at November 20, 2006 06:43 PM

What gave you the impression that I was a drug-dealer. You are an idiot who makse false assumptions based on a name that i chose. For your information I happen to have an addictive personality and close friends say I am like a drug. Hence the name drugsforu. I happen to be a banker with a series 6 and 7 license. I buy and sell stock for the largest brokerage firm in the world. I also work from the comfort of my own home. I have said a negative word on this blog. Check the facts. My mission is to uplift those like you and bring you into the light.

seriously, hip hop is dead.. when i'm waiting for a whiteboy to bring it back (slim shady, best rapper alive, sorry u homosexual weezy fuckin baby whatever) you know something is up... seriously, after em, jay, and nas actually finally retire... wow... we will be left with game and young jeezy :/

CTFU@I WAS RAISED IN THE PROJECTS OF PHILY AND I NOW LIVE IN THE MOST EXCLUSIVE HOOD ON THE WEST COAST LMAO HOW DO YOU KNOW YOUR HOOD THE MOST EXCLUSIVE YOU NEXT TO BILL GATES HUH? OR MAYBE WARREN BUFFET? OR MAYBE JUST MAYBE THE PRINCE OF ZUMUNDA?? HUH HUH?? SOUND LIKE SOMEBODY BEEN WATCHING TOO MUCH FRESH PRINCE OF BEL-AIR

I never understood how people can call another person anything negative if they haven't met him or her ever. It's better to let people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. No need to call Chamillionaire an idiot even if you THINK he is, thats just plain wrong. Don't need to be callin anyone an idiot or assuming you know everything about someone. Stick to talking about real shit instead of filling space with junk one liners. Fake man real fake

Bobby Drake you get props for pointing out a very real study done by psychologists but where you lose points is saying that ridiculous irrelevant shit about being athletic as a factor of race dominance. That is just plain wrong. How many people actually go on to play Pro anything? The most successful are the ones that use their minds. Do you really consider who is the better athlete to be the final determining factor of who is "The dominante race" I sure hope not. For that matter why do you even care about dominant race, thought we were past that

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