...Because that's what he wants it to be.
Can I get an encore.... 'cause it seems as if the very same beef from back in May has resurfaced. Cam'ron doesn't understand that no matter what he does, he will never get under Hov's skin. The lyricism in him just doesn't exist. Who really takes the Dips that serious anyways? You could hear the mockery and playfullness in Hov's "Brooklyn" dis record.
"Whatchu done to me, you say they pulled guns on me?/ That was fun to me, this year I faced a 1 to 3 (Rikers)/ 6 building, 4 main they placed the bull/ To the left man you acting irreplaceable/ You must not know 'bout me You must not know 'bout me" --Cam'ron "You Must Not Know"See Rucker, Run For It. I guess I can take these few bars serious coming from someone who told authorities the shooters "threw up the diamond."
Jay-z. Jim Jones. Cam'ron. Jay-Z. Hell Rell. Jay-Z. This is becoming extremely monotonous. Cam'ron please sit down. You're suffocating me with your baby wipes. Does anyone even look at this as a real "beef"?
this game is over..i wonder if the dipset knows.....You in a hole!
damn......i don't know what's mo pathetic, the game/ ye song on vida n melyssa or cam tryin to get at jay....
can someone tell me who cam ever battled n had a legitimate beef with since he came up in the game?
we can't afford to take this nigga serious...matter of fact i think we giving him mo attention than he deserves.....
just noticed that isn't it funny just how before jay drops, there is always some nondescript rapper tryin to get at him.....if i didn't know better i would say that cam is on his payroll to create hype for the album...
PAMOJA!!!
Goddamn.. the whole dipset crew is now getting @ Hov after the Jenny Jones diss.. lol and guess what they got him in a chock hold & r goin to end it there...
If this nigga Hov wasn't this mightier than thou, greedy, egotistical person he might still have actual rappers (Beanie Siegle, Freeway even Cam) as friends to hold him down when the rap industry turns on him instead of his weed carrier who can't rap to save the damn weed bag.
Brooklyn high, thats very shallow and to my surprise some niggaz are feeling it. JayZ been wack for a good minute now. Since he dropped the Blueprint, He has gone soft, and can`t come any harder. Camron spits fire, although sometimes, he does silly rhymes, but he can come hard, but just because it`s Cam, yall be looking down on everything he do. Jay never does no wrong in your eyes, he is the definition of perfection. Show me what you got pretty lady, Kingdom come, and yall still Jigga is the man, you all fucking jokes.
Yall niggas have to understand that Dipset is doing whatever it takes to put food on their tables. Even though most people really don't consider this shit to be legitimate beef it still got people talking about "Dipset". If there wasn't any beef with Jay would will still be discussing them? So all the motherfuckers who don't like Dipset should just stop talking about them and the buzz will die!
"Feel like I'm playing cards with my brother's kids"!
Personally I think The Diplomats are VERY underrated! They're the modern-day Wu-Tang Clan. Let me explain:
Dip Set have like 9 or 10 rappers. They're almost all colorful personalities, just like how most of the Wu are. They set their own trends: slang, pink, purple, Dip Set furs, Sizzurup liquor, movies, albums... Sound familiar? They're a real movement that's heavily Blood-affiliated. Dip Set are for real in the streets.
Obviously G-Unit is the biggest movement in Hip Hop, but they have Interscope PUSHING them. Dip Set are an independant movement that's just as big. And they nice. Cam put Jay in his place. Jay's a chess player, he knows what Cam's capable of. B.I.G was the first Nigga to tell you about Cam. Jay pretended Cam wasn't worthy, but thats bullshit.
You'll see this week by jays small sales the damage been done.
Jay shouldn't waste his time with responding to Cameron...
Oh man, i dunno why niggaz still feel Jay shit; it's whack the nigga's gone too soft for the hood's liking man and yeah we can see he's comin back like Jordan for the Wiz's! I mean it's a comeback give us some hard shit! May be the nigga's too old Jim Jones is gettin under his skin and he's lot the art to fight back how can you go back on a nigga supposed to be 100 miles under you over his own song? Damn Jay is done it's time for the new Hip Hop alliance watch out Nas is Gonna fuck you in your own House mate!
Yo' Odhis holla back, Pamoja Milele!
I AGREE! THE PINK PANTHER IS TRASH! HE ONLY HAS 1 PLATINUM PLAQUE AND THAT'S UNDER ROCAFELLA! HE'S FALLING OFF BIG TIME SINCE 1998. BACK THEN, HE USE TO HAVE GREAT LYRICS! NOW HE SAYS THINGS LIKE "LIONS, TIGERS, BEARS OH MY". THAT CAME FROM JIM JONES' "CERITIFIED GANGSTAS". THIS DUDE IS JUST JEALOUS OF HOVA! THERE IS A REASON WHY DIPSET IS ON KOCH! THEY CAN'T SELL RECORDS.
DOnt really get down with the DIPSet but cant hate on them for what they are doing. if you remember before Ether and Takeover, there were shots taken by Freeway, Memphis Bleek and whoever else was down with them. So Dip is just following the format. NAS IS COMING!!!
it doesnt matter if you love cam or hate him...love jay or hate him. the beef shit is so fucking wack and childish. bunch of grown ass men with money talking about how they dont like each other. how fucking bitch like is that? and neither one of those niggas gonna shake shit...just talking out they ass. ill be SO happy when hip hop grows up *sigh*
"Personally I think The Diplomats are VERY underrated! They're the modern-day Wu-Tang Clan."
Posted by: Kyser Soze at November 21, 2006 07:16 AM
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I'm from the south, and even I want to smack you for that. Wu Tang had their own swagger, not a BS "style" that gets made fun of all the time. People who don't even like Wu Tang are familiar with ODB, RZA, Ghostface, Method, and Raekwon. No one outside of SOHH viewers even know who the hell is in DipSet. Believe it or not, the average Joe doesn't know who the hell Jim Jones is.
That's the difference between DipSet and Wu Tang - most of Wu was functional as independant pieces. Most of the niggas in DipSet rap just like Cam, or sound like a carbon copy of Juelz.
TELL CAM'RON TO GET A LIFE MAN..NIGGAZ IS ALWAYS TRYING TO GET ON JAY..LET THIS MAN DO HIS THANG..DIPSET SUCKS ANYWAYS..NONE OF THEM NIGGAZ CAN'T RAP FOR SHIT...JUELZ IS COO..BUT EVERYBODY ELSE SUCKS..J.R WRITER=WHO IN THE HELL IS J.R WRITER..TELL THIS MAN TO SIT DOWN AND GET A LIFE..TELL HIM TO GET HIS GRAMMAR IN HIS RAPS RIGHT!! HE NEEDS TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL...LIKE J.R WRITER IS HELLA DUMB...(HEY J.R WRITER IF YOU WANT ME TO HELP YOU OUT MY DUDE..WHY DON'T YOU TAKE A FEW CLASSES AT HOWARD UNIVERSITY...LOL..LOL..THAT'S RIGHT YOU WOULD NEVER MAKE IT HERE YOU DUMB ASS FUCK. FUCK CAM, JIMMY, HELL RELL, AND J.R WRITER AND THAT UGLY ASS BITCH JHA JHA...FUCK DIPSET!!
Its so funny everytime I read a blog here u niggas shit on dipset all the time. Always tryin to clown Cam u mad his trunk is like an elephant the shit is in the front LOL Its all good just b a bit more impartial myspace.com/ninohnewjack myspace.com/ninohnewjack myspace.com/ninohnewjack
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NO LIE!
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BBBRRROOOKKKLLLYYYNNN!!!!!
Jay is that dude, Kingdom Come IN Stores NOW!
Go cop that!
Blue Carpet Treatment IN Stores NOW!
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Doctors Advocate IN Stores NOW!
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Me, Myself & I IN Stores NOW!
Go Cop that!
Sorry 4 not commenting on the whole Dip-Set vs. Jay-Z bullshyt but I ain't got time for gimmicks I'm 2 busy filling my MP3 player with REAL FUCKIN' HIP-HOP!
PEACE!
BROOKLYN STAND UP!
Read these bars from a Nas freestyle lollz
Jim Jones u aint a rhyma/ u a vagina/ its time for some vagisil/ cos Nas gonna crush your career like a Budweiser can of beer/... (Jim Jonessssss) is a wack rapper/ but aint a bad promoter (ha)/ imma dig up a deep whole/ so your wack album can rest in sleep/ you can put your lyrics in it/ those gimmicks can rest in peace/ you in some trouble dude/ jay don't like you (BROOKLYN HATE U)/ now u got trouble in doubles dude (Queens hate you)/ the only way to shut up is a muzzle to muzzle you/ u aint the king/ i know cos i'm the nigga who built the castle/ Nas gonna kill the tick-tock/ you got in that flea market wrist watch (ha)/ i pull my back hand and turn you/.......
Watch u punish who? imma pull my back hand nd slap and turn you to a dizzy rascal/ can't keep my name out cos he got my dick in a lip lock/ man Jimmy i'm jus sayin get off my genitalia.
It goes on but FUCK JIMMY JONES. FUCK CAMMY and the rest of ya crew. I HATE DIPSET cos dey suck dick.
Cop Nas ALBUM.
Cop Game ALBUM and real hip hop. TO hell with these bitches. DICKSET and GAY-Unit lolllz
Oh yeah FUCK BK Xclusive dude cos u a bitch, u a lil blogging nigga who aint got no life. Actin all tough on this blog go fuck urself. Acting like ur da gran daddy of SOHH. HOw much does Sohh Pay you? Go read and u aint a real nigga 4rm Brooklyn cos i know u. BITCH ASS NIGGA go read and step up ir money.
FUCK all of you niggas who dont co-sign me
im baaaaalin bitchez
DIPSET IS THE WORST. all the members of that crappy music group all flow like Camron. EWWW fuck Cammy i know he will flop hard body!!!
All I have to say. Jay-Z Kingdom Come officially in stores today. So I have my Blueprint Album officially in my CD Player today. For all the people purchasing his album today all I have to say to you is don't expect Jay-Z all your getting is his carcass a fucking shell the remains of a great emcee. This will be the second album I refuse to buy of his Hard Knock Life was the first one. But this album Kingdom Come really worries me it doesn't sound like him anymore. I hope this dude comes around because I really don't want to believe his washed up. I look foward to the next album then. As far as him going at Dipset let's put it like this if this was the Jay from a few years ago there would of never been a response from Dipset because it would of been a rap.
fuck u all who say dipset is wack....i want u all to repeat after me," i am pussy...who the hell is jigga that camron can get into under his skin , thats why new york will never be on top again cos u think it is one ruler ,,nope look at the south tip can say he is the king but he recognised luda and he knows master p and them re bout bout.
Who is Cam? Did'nt he ruin his own career (I wanna end ur career, you gonna do it for me)....
gu gu ga ga, dipset is the worst thing to happen to hip hop, gone tomorrow, no tomorrow, slow tomorrow, i cannot rap tomorrow....
Jim Jones? LOL I wonder if people actually try to convince their boys he has any lyrical skill LOL
If i cop all them albums i might go broke!LOL
Does Mpho have short term memory, cause damn. This dude don't remember "You Gotta Love It" before Killa Season and that wack shit Cam spit on the young jockstrap remix. This nigga Cam need to stop before Nas and Jigga end the Dips career (and get murder inc.ed) none of these dudes have have half the track record Jay or Nas have and these two are lyrically miles ahead of all of em put together. Hell Rell and JR are in my opinion the nicest out the group and Jay or Nas will rap circles around these two and 99% of the emcees out. Cam and Jim Jones ain't tryin to win no battle they just tryin to get more attention, they no lyrically they can't fuck wit none of these two they just wannna see on how many sohh blogs they can get on before they get jaruled. Thats my word
I agree with Keyser soze! the Diplomats are underrated, I fucks with them because the have loyalty. Freekey just got home and when Hell Rell got home Killa(Cam) picked him up in a stretch limo and place the Dipset chain on his neck, the same way Xzibit did Ras Kass. Dudes like Jay-Z and Diddy dont have loyalty, did Jay-Z visit Sigel in jail? Hell no because he has no ethics, matter of fact the only cats who visited Sigel was Oschino and Sparks. Does Diddy visit Shine? Did yall know Black Rob and Eightball & MJG dropped and album this year? Hell no because he has no ethics, like Killa said "you can fool the rest of the world as long as New York knows" that applies to both of them disloyal, bitch-made punk muthafuckers. Fuck Jay & Diddy until they learn loyalty!
WE FLY HIGH!!
NO LIE!!
U KNOW DIS!!!
HARLLEEEEMMMMM!!!!!!! :-/
I felt obligated to say it cause I'm from harlem but KINGDOM COME in stores right now go cop and watch jay continue to fight the odds!!! FUCK DIPSET!!!
WHEN KINGDOM COMES.......YOU READY!?!?!?!?
Cam'ron needs to do him he losing all the time
Word? Naiga King?
How can I say... Akwa Ibom State?
What up XBK. Long time no speak.
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Whats good Ms. Rocky, how are you today?
Lol. X! What's up my dude? How are things going with you? I'm good today. Not a lot of sleep last night. Too much talking on the phone. You know how that goes. Lol. But all is well. Just stopping by to say hello to everyone, and wish them a great Thanksgiving. Its about more than turkey, you dig.
I look at this situation like this, it's grown man sh*t. If someone says or does some disrespectful sh*t to you, you return the favor. This has been brewing for years between these two. And one more thing I wanted to touch on, I don't understand why some people on these blogs feel like Jay Z can't be addressed or responded to. He may call himself Hova but he ain't God. It just seems to me that alot of people take being a rap music fan to a whole different level when they say things like Cam'ron can't say anything about Jay or Jim Jones can't say anything about Nas or Jay. Why can't they? Who cares if Jay Z sold more records or has more money, he should've sold more record made more money he has 10 damn albums. Cam'ron and Jim Jones are well on their way to catching Jigga in the money department somewhere down the road. Whether you like it or not they both are up on their business and it doesn't hurt to have Dame Dash in your corner either if you don't believe me ask Jay Z about that one. And if you really look at it when Jay Z and Nas where 30 they weren't driving around in Lamborgini's like Cam'ron's doing right now at the age of 30. Now don't get it twisted, I'm not taking sides in any way, shape or form. I'm just saying that the idea of Jay Z being somebody you can't address or respond to is ridiculous.
WATS ROCIN XBK?
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EVERYBODY KNOWS IN THE STREETS WHEN IT COMES TO EAST COAST HIP HOP THAT ITS G UNIT AND DIPSET ALSO D BLOCK BUT THEY FELL OFF BECAUSE THEY HATE TO MUCH NAS ANS JIGGA PLEASE LOOK LIKE 2 OLD ASS GROWN MEN LIVING THEIR 2ND CHILDHOOD ESPICALLY NAS GOING AT THE DIPS WHILE RAPPING WIT THE DUDE WHO FUCKED YOUR BABY MOMS WHEN YOU WAS WITH HER. 2 ALL YOU STUPID GAYME FANS ITS GAYME OVER YOUR BOY ALBUM IS HOT GARBAGE DONT KNOW ANYONE WHO COPPED THAT SHIT NO RADIO PLAY IN MY CITY
Posted by: Rocky at November 21, 2006 08:28 AM
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You have a Happy Thanksgiving as well sweetheart, hope 2 c u and Fab in December(u better keep ur promise ;-)
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What up Tah, Huey I c ya'll!
2 ALL YOU STUPID GAYME FANS ITS GAYME OVER YOUR BOY ALBUM IS HOT GARBAGE DONT KNOW ANYONE WHO COPPED THAT SHIT NO RADIO PLAY IN MY CITY
Posted by: GAYME IS A THUG WIT A TOUNGE RING at November 21, 2006 08:34 AM
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CO SIGN!! LMAO
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You make a very valid point. And thought I said I was only going to come through and post like once, I want to respond really quickly. See, I love Dipset as much as I like the Roc. But in a way, I don't feel that Cam (or any of the others) can hold light to Jay. Maybe Bleek, but not Jay. Not that he is god or something. But it is like Cam's status (lyrically and financially) is no match for Iceberg. That's like Beyonce challenging Chaka Khan or Patti to a sing off. Let's be real.
But, I'm loving that Jim Jones album, and Jay's was banging on every player I have for the past week. The whole feud thing is annoying frankly. Like stepping in a pile of ants and realizing it too late. You get stung, but just move on. That's what Jay is doing. But him going back to stomp the ants is futile- hence the reason why he should have never made a diss track over We Fly High.
But it is cute how Jim Jones borught NY back something awful. Gotta hand it to him. I said a while ago that a big weight will not be putting NY back on the map. And I was right.
FUCK ALL U GAY Z SUPPORTERS..JIM JONES CLOWNED HIM SILLY ON THAT BEEF MIX....AND THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE JIM JONES WHO EVERYONE CLAIMS HAS NO LYRICAL ABILITY..WHERE IS THE ONE LINE CAREER ENDING LYRICS HOVI WAS SUPPOSE TO KICK,,,JIM JONES WON THAT ROUND...
I DONT KNOW WHAT YALL SEE IN JAYS MUSIC..THAT SHIT IS TRASH...JAY WONT WIN THAT BATTLE...DIP SET HAS DIE HARD FANS SO THEY ALWAYS GONNA EAT...JAY Z IS SELFISH AND HAS DONE NOTHING FOR THE RAP GAME.....
DIP SET HAS MADE MORE STARS OF PEOPLE THAN JAY Z,,,,JAY HAS MEMPHIS BLEEK (lol>>lol>>lol)....JAY IS JEALOUS CUZ HIS SWAGGER IS NON EXISTANT..ALL HE DID WAS SELL RECORDS...BUT IF YOU RIDING WITH JAY CUZ HE SOLD RECORDS THEN YALL MUST BE VANILLA ICE AND MC HAMMER FANS TOO RIGHT?..
JAY KNOW HE WONT WIN THAT BATTLE CUZ IF U KNOW NY HIP HOP, CAM COMES FROM A CREW OF BATTLE RAPPERS LIKE BIG L, MASE, THE LOX...CHECK THE HISTORY...HE KNOWS HOW TO BATTLE AND JAY KNOWS THAT...CAM WASNT THE 1ST ARTIST TO GET SIGNED TO BIGGIES LABEL BY ACCIDENT ...
THEY AINT COMIN AT JAY JUSS CUZ HE IS THE TOP DOG OF RAP...THEY JUSS THINK HE IS A BITCH ASS NIGGA...AND I PERSONALLY WANNA SEE JAY GONE CUZ HE IS A BAD REP FOR RAP....HE WENT TO DEF JAM AND STUNK THAT UP..ALL HIS BIGGEST ACTS THERE ARE R N B ARTIST...HE BROKE NO NEW ARTIST..NOTHING...I CAN SEE Y HE COULDNT GET A DEAL IN THE BEGINING
Modern day WU? Nigga what you smokin. you out there in OC Cali huh? Them niggas will not now or ever touch Wu can't lace their boots. Name one nigga that spit better than Rae? Name one nigga that spit better than MEF? name one nigga that spit harder than GHOST? I thought not. That purple and pink shit. In the words of Riley Freeman "Dem niggas is Gay." You oughta be smacked for saying some dumb shit like that.
2 ALL YOU STUPID GAYME FANS ITS GAYME OVER YOUR BOY ALBUM IS HOT GARBAGE DONT KNOW ANYONE WHO COPPED THAT SHIT NO RADIO PLAY IN MY CITY
Posted by: GAYME IS A THUG WIT A TOUNGE RING at November 21, 2006 08:34 AM
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IMMA B BACK IN A MIN IM TAKING A TEST! BUT I DO HAVE TO SAY: CAM'RON IS A FUCKIN' WANNABE...I DIDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WIT HIM UNTIL HE STARTED FRONTIN LIKE HE COULD GET AT JAY! STUPID, STUPID!
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I bet u all u niggaz won't b here next week when Jay's number come out...you'll b 2 embaressed 2 say anything...y'all knw dat Dipset aint a movement...
you know what would be a better beef, hell rell vs Jay. not Camron vs Jay..come on now...hell would actually make this interesting.;
Anyone who has the balls to compare the Wu and Dipset needs to be taken to the psych ward. All of Wu had flow. ALL of them.
I bet u all u niggaz won't b here next week when Jay's number come out...you'll b 2 embaressed 2 say anything...y'all knw dat Dipset aint a movement...
Posted by: holla@urboi at November 21, 2006 08:46 AM
Your a dumb fuck if you think for one minute Jay won't sell. Even with a mediocre album.
First of all if you ain't from NY you don't know about this nigga Cam. Before he signed to the ROC he was broke. Dame has always tried to make money off of anybody he could. If he couldn't make money off of you then he left you behind. Look at Original Flava, Dame was their manager. He made a little bit of money of off these niggas and now they eating out of the garbage.
I am pretty sure that he got his hands in Cam's pocket.
Think about it if Cam would not have dissed Jay would you have known that he had an album coming out?
If Jimmy Walker wasn't in the video acting like jay z would you have known he had a video?
Name one other song off of his CD.
Juelz is my man I knew him for years but ask him where he get the name juelz from . Check Reasonable doubt. Ask the interns at the ROC.
We need to see the footage of Cam acting like Tom Cruise on 106 and park when he got signed to the ROC. Jay was his man then.
You see These Dipset niggas live their life around Jay z.
Jim Jones even said that he listened to Jay's CD. Do you think that Jay z is listening to Jim Jones CD or Cam's CD.
Please!!
JAY'S ALBUM SHOWS A MATURE SIDE OF HIM! UR NOT GONNA GET A REASONABLE DOUBT...UR GONNA GET A MATURE ALBUM! THATS IT! IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN ITS BCUZ U RATHER FOR JAY TO BE THAT SAME OL NIGGA DOIN WHAT HE USE TO DO! SHIT CHANGED FOR HIM! THATS IT!
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DID ANYBODY C THAT NIGGA GAME ON TV YESTERDAY? HE TALKIN BOUT IF HE DONT GO A MILLION IN HIS 1ST WEEK THEN HE GONNA RETIRE?!?! LMAO!
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sorry but dipset is gettin bigger, jay-z can't win this battle dipset runns ny
Read these bars from a Nas freestyle lollz
Jim Jones u aint a rhyma/ u a vagina/ its time for some vagisil/ cos Nas gonna crush your career like a Budweiser can of beer/... (Jim Jonessssss) is a wack rapper/ but aint a bad promoter (ha)/ imma dig up a deep whole/ so your wack album can rest in sleep/ you can put your lyrics in it/ those gimmicks can rest in peace/ you in some trouble dude/ jay don't like you (BROOKLYN HATE U)/ now u got trouble in doubles dude (Queens hate you)/ the only way to shut up is a muzzle to muzzle you/ u aint the king/ i know cos i'm the nigga who built the castle/ Nas gonna kill the tick-tock/ you got in that flea market wrist watch (ha)/ i pull my back hand and turn you/.......
Watch u punish who? imma pull my back hand nd slap and turn you to a dizzy rascal/ can't keep my name out cos he got my dick in a lip lock/ man Jimmy i'm jus sayin get off my genitalia.
It goes on but FUCK JIMMY JONES. FUCK CAMMY and the rest of ya crew. I HATE DIPSET cos dey suck dick.
Cop Nas ALBUM.
Cop Game ALBUM and real hip hop. TO hell with these bitches. DICKSET and GAY-Unit lolllz
Oh yeah FUCK BK Xclusive dude cos u a bitch, u a lil blogging nigga who aint got no life. Actin all tough on this blog go fuck urself. Acting like ur da gran daddy of SOHH. HOw much does Sohh Pay you? Go read and u aint a real nigga 4rm Brooklyn cos i know u. BITCH ASS NIGGA go read and step up ir money.
FUCK all of you niggas who dont co-sign me
Posted by: Naija King at November 21, 2006 07:50 AM
--- No hate to nas but your a fraud piece of shit for crediting him with that rhyme, and even gayer for switching up the names.... that was chamillionaire dumbass like 4 yrs ago
My review on both albums n hip-hop in general:
I copped both albums on Saturday morning and listened to both right through. I got much love for both artists as I still remember getting kicked out of a Holiday Inn when we first played '22 2s'. I still remember getting a bootleg tape of Doggystyle which I had 2 bump in my walkman cause in the early 90's police considered hip hop listeners as suspects for whateva. Some shit ain't changed, but the hip hop has.
Coming back to both these artists...I first listened to Jigga's album which I was hyped about, though I personally felt dat if Nas dropped first it would've been a bigger blow. However, though I was impressed, I somehow didnt feel that same fire as I heard in previous Jigga albums. Don't get me wrong, the album is good, very good if you must, but it doesn't reflect for me some of the Jigga aspects. Instead, it shows a much more mature artist. If you listen to Reasonable Doubt and then everything inbetween, you can see how he has grown, but Kingdom Come for me didn't show an album which I can expect further growth from. More like of an album that says 'I have done it. Though I have made millions from hip hop and other business ventures, this album says I have done it. I have accomplished everything I wanted to do in my life to show the critics and lovers alike what I have done'.
It takes a much more mature listener to understand where he is coming from. I didn't think the beats were as up to par as The Black Album, and considering there are hardly any features from hip-hop artists but mainly R&B artists can be looked @ it from to sides. Positive: Jay done hip-hop now try a different challenge. Negative: Jay supposed to be a king but with no subjects? Ne-yo, Beyonce, Usher, Pharell, 2 other nobody's n Chris Martin.
I don't know how the Jay-Z fans are gonna react. They'll most likely love it cause it's Hov, but I just feel that to bow out on an album like The Black Album, I would've thought a king of hip-hop would made a more powerful entrance. A bit like how Dre did when he dropped 2001 summin summin years after The Chronic. I would've loved to have seen other Def Jam rappers or even whoever is left on the Roc to take part. Lyrically Hov still got it for me on tracks like Minority Report, Oh My God, Kingdom Come. Even though he lyrically strong on others i feel the beats let him down. Or even if da beat was phat, the new attitude of 'accomplishment' might have done it. I don't know. Like I said, mature listeners might like it more. I played it to a producer I know who is in his 30's and he loved it cause he could relate to some of the samples. Oh n speaking of Dr. Dre, he produced, Lost Ones, 30 Something, Trouble and Minority Report he mixed the whole album for Hov, check the credits on every track. Nevertheless, this is a very good album and you will be stupid to not give it a look and believe after the 2nd time listening some of the songs I passed on the first time, started to grow on me (don't get it twisted, 'Hollywood' wid B, is just plain awful and I jus can't get into 'Show Me What You Got'). This is an album that reflects Hov's personal growth and maturity as well as his fans from back in the day. An artist that has grown with his fans. Almost waiting in hope that the same kids that were hungrey for success when Reasonable Doubt came out have grown to be successful by the time Kingdom Come came out, just like Jigga.
Now onto Snoop. I feel he followed the same format as R&G. Those who loved dat album, will love dis while those who hated it might take a 2nd look here. There are quite a few bangers (Candy, Gangbangin 101, LAX, Bitch I Knew, Don't Stop), fillers (10 Lil Crips, I Wanna Fuck You, Pssst!) n a couple of lame ones (i thought Crazy with Nate Dogg could've been done better), but it was as I neared the end of the album that I made this album a classic in my mind. 1 track stood head n shoulders above every thing else. It is for this 1 song that I would probably say this album is better than anything I have heard this year (e.g. Meth, Banks, Ghostface, Game, Jay-Z...anyone).
The track I'm referring to is Imagine with Dr.Dre and D'Angelo. From the second I heard the piano keys I knew it would be an immortal track. Then u hear Dre raspy on the beat, then the violins and then your mind is blown. Then I heard the Dre lyric:
'Imagine Biggie wid his son/ Imagine Pac getting called 'Pop' by one/ Imagine a mother struggling/ dealing with a system that don't give a fuck who shot her son.'
...n I almost damn near cried cause I think that is summin every true hip-hop fan has wondered since 1996/1997. Whenever u hear a great mentioned in hip-hop nowadays, u hear a comparison or some dillusion of grandure that if dey were alive dey would be riding with that particular artist or whateva. That was the truest, heart-felt lyric I have heard all year. It is for just those simple words, that one thought that I put Blue Carpet Treatment above any album I liked this year. I don't think there will be an album released this year that would have a song on it with a lyric like that. What made me proud is that, you hear all these artists screaming their the king of this n that BUT THE GREATEST LYRIC ON A SONG THIS YEAR WAS FROM A SONG THAT WAS DONE BY THE TWO MOST INFLUENTIAL HIP HOP STARS OF THE WEST COAST. It wouldn't have mattered if it was from a southern or east coast artisit but I mention this because there has been alot of debate as to who is King of the West recently (just like who is the King of NY) but you can define a king by their actions and Snoop & Dre showed why they don't need to scream it. Real recognise real.
In the end, there have been alot of album's this year that have been amazing but slept on (e.g. Rotten Apple, 4:21, The Format etc.) n this is the reason why people say 'hip hop is dead', because we, the fans, are killing it by our stupid allgiance to just one particular artist. Even though I don't like Mariah his album, Doctor's Advocate (sorry I couldn't resist!) had some good beats and though I may not like The Game or his lyrics, I can't take away credit from the guy who has worked hard on summin and achieved what he has. If I stay loyal to what a few artists say, I would miss the beauty of hip hop and all her faces. Death is an eternal sleep, so if we the fans sleep on albums just because of our loyalty to other artists or regions, then we give little life to the one thing which is our lives. Just a thought. No more hate. Peace.
Camron is awful and thats putting it lightely, Dipset is awful and thats telling the truth. These cats will never be nothing more than nickel and dime hustlers and you sorry slow minded ass niggas that follow that shit will never be nothing yourselves, but low budget in the hood niggas, that wont make shit out of yourselves, while white people and society scuffs and looks down on you. niggas get a life. Whos the model for you, where is your sense of accomplishment...? Selling that 8 ball on the corner last night, is that what it is all about or pretending to be a fake thug with a lil 380 pistol in your dipset belt buckle. Niggas wake up and smell the green, not weed, money my nigga, responsibility my niggas, real life, real talk.
Dont get mad at Jay for wanting more out of his life, be happy for a black man for once in your life. the hate is ridiculous seriously. Niggas you cant ride a dick all your life, your ass will get sore eventually. Nas and Hov together =success, showing real niggas how to do it and come together to get rich, carry the hood. You niggas in the hood complain cause you dont want anything better for yourselves. You cant blame the white man all your life, eventually it comes down to you, look in the mirror faggot and get out to do something for yourself. you dont have to be worth 300 mill to be something in life. But I guess you niggas are satisfied.
Till Kingdome Come!