It's Bigger Than the Music: Nas Puts a Political Spin on the Phrase 'Hip-Hop is Dead'

"All respect to all rappers on Def Jam, I love the label. Without disrespect, I'm about to be the craziest shit on Def Jam." --Nas, MTV News
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His ability to back up this claim can be deemed, for the most part, undisputed. However, we're still waiting to see if the current "album release date," December 19th, will manage to stick (*crickets*).

The legendary Queensbridge MC--who claims his marriage to Kelis was his second marriage, as he married hip-hop first-- had words for the DJs of today (who, unlike pioneers like Red Alert, make it too easy for garbage to sabotage the airwaves), and some words for inquiring minds wishing to know exactly what 'hip-hop is dead' really means.

He told MTV:

"Let's be real. DJs play a big responsibility of what hip-hop is doing. … At the end of the day, it's up to us to control and to own hip-hop. DJs need to challenge us rappers. They got so much power, they need to challenge us. We don't challenge DJs by making crazy shit enough.

"When I say 'hip-hop is dead,' basically America is dead. There is no political voice. Music is dead. B2K is not New Edition. Chris Brown is great, I love Chris Brown, we need that, but Bobby Brown sticks in my heart. Our way of thinking is dead, our commerce is dead. Everything in this society has been done. It's like a slingshot, where you throw the muthafucka back and it starts losing speed and is about to fall down. That's where we are as a country.

"I don't wanna lose nobody with this, but what I mean by 'hip-hop is dead' is we're at a vulnerable state. If we don't change, we gonna disappear like Rome. Let's break it down to a smaller situation. Hip-hop is Rome for the 'hood. I think hip-hop could help rebuild America, once hip-hoppers own hip-hop. … We are our own politicians, our own government, we have something to say. We're warriors. Soldiers."

When the 'hip-hop is dead' thing first hit the scene, I always thought he meant mainly the quality of music; I guess it's a lot deeper than that. That's real shit.

Thoughtful words coming from "the school dropout," who "never liked the shit from day one."

Posted by SOHH Reckless at October 12, 2006 04:22 AM

Comments

I feel Nas as well, real shit....

only thing i can't believe that nigga said , was of all R&B pioneers and stand-outs and shit, the nigga choose Bobby Brown as his real nigga of R&B shout out?! Bobby Brown was king of R&B for a fucking year...

Posted by: Africa at October 12, 2006 05:36 AM

second!! nas was right. they've stolen our culture and are making it their own. just pay attention next time you watch tv and see how many commercials have hip-hop music in the background and the product has nothing to do with hip-hop. take mcdonalds for instance. 10 years ago it was all ronald mcdonald. now they have people rapping about their favorite mcdonalds food (on radio) and playing basketball in commercials. look at domino's. on the brooklyn-style pizza commercial there's a shot of a brother at the ballpark who you can hear because he has his trunk open and his speakers blaring. how ridiculous. oh well, if we don't read between the lines hip-hop will never be powerful again. they were scared of it at first but now they're capitalizing off our culture. it always happens. just check the history of music. one.

Posted by: fasteddie at October 12, 2006 06:26 AM

You see Nas is the truest defination of a rapper/writer.
That Jim Jones needs to really shut his ignorant coon ass up.

Posted by: NYGIANT at October 12, 2006 06:36 AM

Hip Hop is on its deathbed for sure but that's nothing new. The industry has run out of gimmicks and ways to mask it. No bought scans, spins or great white savior can extend the lifespan. Hip hop died when old ass men failed to make way for fresh blood. Nas admits to being 33 which could mean just that or older in an industry where everything is a fucking lie. If he truly loved the culture he would've stop clogging the lane years ago. For all you old farts who'll take issue with that perspective know this - hip hop originated as music made by kids for kids.

MC Hammer was considered too old to rap at 27 while Kane, KRS and damn near everyone before Hammer were pretty much done by their mid 20's. That's a fact. Nowadays, rappers don't get deals till 27.

The trend of old rappers from places like LA, Miami and damn near everywhere outside of the tri-state started the process. With these old ass ringers came very mature, aggressive, explicit subject matter and the road to where we now stand was set. I'm talking about people who had to wait for adulthood to become cool kids.

In attempts to keep up and remain relevant NY followed suit and used superior vocabulary and talent to further advance the foolishness. Now they say Hip Hop is dead and lovers of Black people, culture and arts everywhere say good riddance!

Posted by: Nimrod at October 12, 2006 06:38 AM

Whats up to the usuals, long time... Odhis, X-clusive, I've always said Hip-Hop ain't dead and I have to take Nas' side on this.

The people who are Hip-Hop, who are responsible for putting it out there, have to keep the standard up. That ish that they are passing at our noses just isn't what we want to be putting out there.

I saw The Roots on 'Rap City: The Pale Imitation' yesterday and Black Thought kept saying that its already three times platinum.

That statement should've been factual, not sarcastic, not ironic, just the facts. He made light of it, but when will that be the truth.

And don't tell me 'nobody wanna hear the Roots' , Game Theory is that ish that i'm talking about.


OK, I'm back, OK, I'm back...

Posted by: ODEMIC at October 12, 2006 06:53 AM

WHY SHOULD WE LISTEN TO NAS OUTTA ALL THE RAPPERS TELLING US HIP HOP IS DEAD?
WE DONT CARE ABOUT IT AT ALL NAS HAS BEEN OUTTA TOUCH FOR SOME YEARS..THE DJ'S ARE THE ONES WHO PLAYED YOUR SHIT WHEN U WAS THUGGED OUT AND BLACK GIRL LOST...NIGGAZ KILL ME THINKING WHAT THEY THINK SHOULD STAND IN MUSIC..NIGGA SHUT UP ITS GOOD TO SEE THE OTHER REGIONS HAD TO GROW AND DO IT THEMSELVES BECAUSE THOSE SAME DJ'S AND RADIO STATIONS IN NEW YORK WASNT SHOWING LOVE..AND TO SAY CATS MUSIC IS MICROWAVE IS COCKY COMING FROM A NIGGA WHO DOESNT GO PLAT AND IS KNOWN MORE FOR ETHER THAN 1 MIC...IF HOV DIDNT MAKE TAKEOVER WOULD NAS BE WORTH 3MIL?WOULD NAS VOICE STILL MATTER?SOHH WE HAD A BLOG YESTERDAY ABOUT CATS THAT ARE OLD AND OUTTA TOUCH..THIS NIGGA SHOULDVE BEEN 1# AND IF HIP HOP IS DEAD AINT A CLASSIC NA SLP WILL COME WHEN HE'S ABOUT 37..AND REALLY OUTTA TOUCH..NIGGA NEED TO HELP KELIS MOVE SOME UNITS AND STOP HATING ON THE GAME RIGHT NOW...WHERE IS 50 WHEN YOU NEED HIM TO SHUT THIS NIGGA UP!!!!

Posted by: HATER at October 12, 2006 07:02 AM

This nigga bitin my style son....
I posted this shit up yesterday.
Anyway.... " NAS IS COMING".......

Posted by: ihadnochoice at October 12, 2006 07:11 AM

NaS is the truth!

Posted by: Hitman at October 12, 2006 07:20 AM

Nas Still has a voice... yeah he fell off and for a minute but sometimes when your great at something you go in cruise control, like he did for a few albums.. yeah Hov woke him up but a lion is a lion, sleeping or prowling he will fuck you up... Damn even Jordan dropped 33 a game but saved his 50 point games for when Nigga got cocky and started talking that "i can stop him" shit... thats life...

Posted by: Urban Legend at October 12, 2006 07:23 AM

Posted by: HATER at October 12, 2006 07:02 AM

Now thats some motherfucking hate for ya...
I hardly agree but goddamn that some good hate...

IF YOU GOT HATE IN YOUR HEART LET IT OUT NIGGA

but....

Other than that you sound like a fucking idiot.Dudes like Nas,Jay,Pac,Face,BIG,Snoop are timeless. They put shit out 10 years ago that would smash anything out now. Nas has never made music to be popular and sell records and he still manages to be at the forefront of this shit. So you can Lean and Rock your Laffy Taffy ass to death while we get ready for Game,Jay and Nas.

Posted by: ihadnochoice at October 12, 2006 07:23 AM

That's right, Nas is right. I don't know what happened. But it is dead. I don't get the same feelin i did when i heard Rae, Pac, or Big. I had to put in my Ready to die shit last night just to get a taste of what i used to feel. I love my south artists. But what's goin on? And dat kid talkin about where is 50 when u need him!? What are you serious. His last album should be used for holdin blunt guts.

Posted by: VAfinest at October 12, 2006 07:28 AM

Hip Hop was never dead......
You see hip hop everywhere. The music may have suffered a bit but it was at the expense of the culture expanding. Advertisers are eating hip hop up and hip hop artist are making more money than ever due to them expanding their business ventures. Its gonna get watered down due to expansion but there is never a shortage of good hip hop.We had our "Afros" and Biz Markies also. We had our fill of gimmicks with ONYX and GRAVEDIGGAZ. We set off the fucking "running man" and the "Roger Rabbit" so why cry now that the south is doing their thing ? Let them niggaz eat

Posted by: ihadnochoice at October 12, 2006 07:38 AM

^ that man is a wise man smartest shit i read all week i co-sign 100 percent hip hop expanding so much
but real talk we probably would not hear from nas if jay didnt call him out or sign that nigga jimmy is right nas is a hypocrit or however you spell it

Posted by: randy at October 12, 2006 07:52 AM

nas is one of my fav rappers cause he can speak the truth , he can spit hardcore,gansta,pop,and club.and be deep,he can do more than one style at the sametime be true,but if you dident understand what nas meant when he said hip hop is dead hes talking about all the beefs, all the djs that get payola to play wack songs ,and the wrong rich dudes in hip hop makeing poor rappers do songs they dont wanna do for money,once we get rid of all of that hip hop will be alive.like i was talking about yesterday these recond labels are finding poor people that are black weather they can rap good or not they sign them write something down for them do rap about and million clubs buy the wack dance songs,its ok to make dance songs but atlest make good ones with taste like how biggie,fablous,and jay z does,not no taffy taffy,chickn noddel soup , or that wack ass shoulder lean song.cause theirs like a million clubs out their and you no in clubs they will play anything to make people` dance,fans ant really buying dat its the clubs, but like i said yesterday im 28 and these 17 year olds are finnally learning that that laffy taffy shyt is wack and thats not how you rap,thats vanallia ice shyt rite their, few kids are learning the truth here and their and in 2 years it will be world wide,and if they try to lie to kids that are younger than that those kids that are 17 will teach them ,hip hop is dead till dec.oh and nigaz ant haten on the south cause their from the south ,were up set cause 80 percent of them is fucking wack as fuck,we all no their wack rappers in every coast the the south tops the wackest out of all,hip hop is dead till dec, all you snaping ,or gay pop fans go hide in the corner ,real hip hop is back and the wack labels that promote that wack shyt are catching fire from hip hop.1

Posted by: million hands at October 12, 2006 07:57 AM

As long as folks make QUALITY music, people will support it.....be it record store or BOOTLEG.

I agree with 90% of what Nas said. I will add that as a BLACK man in America, FUCK music. We're sitting here claiming that Hip Hop is dead; screw that. Half the ABORTIONS in this country are of male Black babies. (They count Latino babies as white.) There are more Black women than Black men here in the States. The female body knows exactly what society needs. The need is to balance out the sexes. But, through legalized ABORTION, Black females are quick to take innocent life. Black females are the MAJORITY "benefactors" of late-term ABORTIONS. Meaning, more times than none, the Black female knows that she's having a male BLACK baby.

Most of us call certain politicians the "Devil". I say that people who willingly and proudly kill unborn children the Devil.

So, keep dancing. Keep them hands up because obviously we STILL DON'T CARE.

Posted by: Mom had an abortion with me, but a Nigga LIVED. at October 12, 2006 08:05 AM

New Music
"Touch Da Ceiling"

From: I.W.

New Album/Mixtape coming soon

Posted by: Essex at October 12, 2006 08:08 AM

Nas has never made music to be popular and sell records and he still manages to be at the forefront of this shit
^^^^^i dont wanna take anything away from the topic BUT didnt nas have a single on the charlie's angels soundtrack talking about "how a should girl can work it like that,be fly,something about her jeans etc"??its just that the commercial route never really worked for him.he just didnt have the right swagger,image,background(past)

Posted by: haha at October 12, 2006 08:14 AM

and another thing you dont have to make a full album with dance songs or pop songs to sell, look at eminem,2pac,wu tang,game, nigaz like dat they sold millions of records its all about how you promote your self you can make the most hardcore shyt in the world if you promote your self good people will notice you,its ok to make 3 or 4 pop songs for an album but dont make it all pop or wack and call it rap cause its not ,make it at least 70 percent hip hop thats if you feel you have to do a few pop songs to sell, like i said people are catching on to that wack shyt people are knowing now ,thats why ti was the only platim rapper so far this year,but i think a lot of rappers will change that in the 4th quater, let pop be pop, let rap be rap, let r and b be r and b, let rock be rock,you wanna mix it around sometimes then its ok once inwhile but dont make a hambuger and call it tuna fish,no what im saying,listen we ant mad at the south , we ant mad at people going platium were all mad at the wack songs that are out, then you have people saying oh if you dont like it turn off the tv or turn off the radio, wel you se why should we have to turn that off , it shouldent have to come to that, if you like hip hop you watch the hip hip video channel or radio station why the fuck should we turn off something,that were apart of.real hip hop is back and all them sorry ass killers of hip hop are being laugh at.. the real shyt is first and the wack shyt is out of style ..

Posted by: million hands at October 12, 2006 08:23 AM

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Posted by: eze at October 12, 2006 08:36 AM

and another thing you dont have to make a full album with dance songs or pop songs to sell, look at eminem,2pac,wu tang,game, nigaz like dat they sold millions of records its all about how you promote your self you can make the most hardcore shyt in the world if you promote your self good people will notice you,its ok to make 3 or 4 pop songs for an album but dont make it all pop or wack and call it rap cause its not
all those people had some image that a lot of people found very fascinating.

Posted by: haha at October 12, 2006 08:38 AM

Why are black people from the hood so damn negative?

Why are black people from the hood so mean?

Why are black people from the hood so ignorant?

Why are black people from the hood so hateful?

Why are black people from the hood so eager to rob, kill, or sell drugs?

Why do black people from the hood promote violence?

Why do black people from the hood always blame other people for their short comings?

Why do black people from the drop out of school?

Why do black people from the hood support doing wrong?

Why are black people from the hood so eager to destroy their own race?

How come black people from the hood won't except Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior?

PLEASE ANSWER


Posted by: whothehellleftthegateopen at October 12, 2006 08:39 AM

yea and the image is called skillz.not laffy taffy faffy paffy caffy staffy..

Posted by: million hands at October 12, 2006 08:40 AM

@ ihadnochoice

Nigga makin sense.

Hip-hop aint dead, the culture, slang, and fasion couldn't be more alive. U got 50 yr old polititians on CNN calling someone a "hater".not to mention how big it is overseas. i spent 2 years in japan and hiphop is huge there.

Rap music is just suffering cause label heads water the hard stuff down so that it feels less threating to people outside hiphop culture. They need 16yr old becky from malibu to buy the blackeye peas and chingy.

All Nas is sayin, is what chuck d and krs-1 been sayin for a long time and that is there is so much that hiphop has the power to do, but we not using it right.

But no, hip-hop aint dead. just look at current pop culture.

Posted by: Bobby Drake at October 12, 2006 08:40 AM

hip hop is dead till dec.if you disagree your eaither working for a label that trys to get money off of wack shyt or some one who nos nothing about real hip hop,just rember ,1979 and under is old old school,1980 threw 1991 is old school ,1992 threw 2000 is middel school, 2001 threw 2006 is new school, but the middel school type shyt sounds more new than the new shyt , lot of these new rapers rap too simple with no skillz,their wont be no real new school till like 2010,hip hop is dead till dec.all these white labels makeing people that cant rap notice will all fall , and the real rappers will stand.and nas new album is gonna be fire,but this fire cant be put out,read that wack ass paul wall blog with him talking about rap is nothing its easy and any body can do it,well you se yea any body can rap , but not everybody can rap good people like paul wall are the laughing stock of hip hop,the real shyt is coming get used to it, if not go listen to children songs cause thats whats been playing for the last 4 songs,but now the kids are calling it wack, lol ha, but yea real hip hop is back fix your face.

Posted by: million hands at October 12, 2006 08:49 AM

Posted by: haha at October 12, 2006 08:14 AM

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He has plenty of songs like that. I mean there is nothing wrong with having songsz like that becuase niggaz go to the clubs and get their bop on so why not rap about it ? Dudes holla at fly females so why not write about it ? Why does a nigga have to talk about shooting niggaz all day to get respect ? That shit is shallow and fake.

Posted by: ihadnochoice at October 12, 2006 08:49 AM

nas ain't fall off ya'll just stopped buying his shit if you a real fan you copped his shit even before stillmatic like Nastradamus,I Am. but alot niggas think just cause those ain't his most played albums then he fell off don't forget some of the best albums ain't mainstream

Posted by: eze at October 12, 2006 08:51 AM

This some real ish. There is no real substance in music aside from the coke, crack substances. I really hope Nas backs up his claim as the craziest on Def Jam. I think the brother can

Posted by: Emeka at October 12, 2006 08:52 AM

MAN WE GOT SOME HOTT ALBUMS LINED UP COMING OUT WE GOT NAS new ALBUM JAY Z NEW ALBUM,GAMES NEW ALBUM,DR DRES NEW ALBUM,EMINEM,SNOOP,REDMAN,WU TANGS FULL ALBUM,FAT JOE,PAPOOSE,AZ,THE LOX FULL ALBUM,JADAKISS,,STYLESP,HI TECK, YO THE NEXT FEW YEARS ARE GONNA BE HOTT IM HAPPY THOSE WACK SNAPING SONGS ARE GOING AWAY.

Posted by: S at October 12, 2006 09:02 AM

also to the cat talkin bout old men need to leave the rap game why is it we the only music genre to disrespect the niggas who came before us and don't say that you ain't disrespectin cause if you did respect them why not let the "old rappers" do they thing if they still wanna rap let them niggas do that they ain't takin no money off no young niggas plate. jay-z and nas ain't stealin no spotlight from nobody if you like they shit but it if you don't then.i'm sick of niggas actin like this shit is a sport it ain't a sport, music is your opinion on shit whether you like political shit or club bangin shit or gangsta shit whatever you like rap about that shit you can't ever get too old to have an opinion to have an idea

Posted by: eze at October 12, 2006 09:05 AM

It's funny how people say "he's old" or hip hop is made for kids, There not letting younger artist shine. That has to be the dumbmest shit I ever heard. People in there 30's grew up on hip hop, as a matter fact alot of them saw the birth of hip hop. It was music they loved are you saying once in your 30's you can't like hip hop anymore? Man, that's ridiculuos. These young kids out here trying to get into the industry saying "These older artist are not letting us shine" That's an excuse only people who don't have the motivation have excuses. When Jay, Nas stepped on the scene where they crying about "Oh Big Daddy Kane or Rakim won't let us shine of when NWA stepped on the scene" Oh Ice T won't let us shine. No, They stepped on the scene and came at it hard. That's the problem with the younger generation they don't know how to put work in anymore, they want everything handed to them on a platter. Sound like a bunch of spoiled children. Get your grind on, come and take it. For the record Jay-Z "Old ass" is about push some serious units. Oh Jay please don't hurt them! The young kids will be whinning "We can't come out cause Jay is selling records. Get over it older adults like to shake there ass too. Hell I'll be shaking, hip hoping my ass to my grave. Real Talk!

Posted by: MY 2 CENTZ at October 12, 2006 09:08 AM

yea and the image is called skillz
^^^^^do u honestly think that if pac(on death row) LOOKED like nelly he would have sold as much as he did or if 50 LOOKED like lupe fiasco he would have sold as much???????

they are above average rappers but the image really seals everything.talib is good but HIS SALES havent been that impressive

Posted by: haha at October 12, 2006 09:09 AM

Jim Jones dun dissed that faggot Jay....ALARM
That shit fire!

Posted by: KINGofSOHH at October 12, 2006 09:10 AM

"when I speak, I need cemetary silence." Nas is right, music, collectively is watered down and we need a new direction. with him, game, and jigga dropping, (maybe raekwon?) fans will see what a real artist rap album sounds like.

Posted by: the one at October 12, 2006 09:16 AM

do u honestly think that if pac(on death row) LOOKED like nelly he would have sold as much as he did or if 50 LOOKED like lupe fiasco he would have sold as much???????

they are above average rappers but the image really seals everything

Posted by: haha at October 12, 2006 09:09 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Biggie and Big Pun were the fattest bastards in rap history and they are remembered as legends and they both are platinum(Biggie Multi-Platinum) selling artist. So how the hell can u only say image is everything...ni99a this ain't a fuckin' Sprint COMMERCIAL!

Posted by: Xclusive BK Dude at October 12, 2006 09:18 AM

no no no its not on how you look you fucking ass hole look at eminem hes white with blonde hair he sold mad albumd and is very popular, look at nas, nas is short ass hell ,and he is all so very popular, look at biggie , he was fat as hell and ugly ,and mad nigaz love him, so looks dont mean a damn thing and style doesnt eaither look at wu tang they dress grimy as hell and they one of the best known groups ever, so do me a fav get your shyt rite its about skillz baby and ythe truth nigaz with true skillz will stand for ever.im off to work peace

Posted by: million hands at October 12, 2006 09:19 AM

do u honestly think that if pac(on death row) LOOKED like nelly he would have sold

Posted by: haha at October 12, 2006 09:09 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


And one more note: Nelly has sold over 8 million albums twice...so WTF are you talking about??? You ain't nothing but a fuckin' clown

Posted by: Xclusive BK Dude at October 12, 2006 09:20 AM

Posted by: KINGofSOHH at October 12, 2006 09:10 AM

So! Ask Jay if he cares about a little dude like Jim Jones.

Nas said exactly what we all are saying. At least he is in touch with the fans and what we are thinking. Now, they probably won't play his shit but he doesn't need it. He never got that much play on the radios down here in Chicago anyway. They played "If I ruled the world" and "Street Dreams" remix to death but he never got much shine on anything else. He doesn't need it. Nas is a true icon and he has easily made it into the pantheon with Cube, Dre, Jay, Big, Pac and all the other early 90's rappers. I really can't wait for him to drop now.

Peace to the real! My 2, I C U homie.

Posted by: ernest frazier at October 12, 2006 09:21 AM

I feel where Nas is coming from, but I dont feel hip hop is dead I just think these record execs are putting artists out for the wrong reasons. In the old days, the A&R would sign a artist because they may have seen the potential and been willin to work with the artist, nowadays all it takes is a club banger to generate a buzz and labels are throwing deals at you. The only new artists that I listen to are Little Brother and Lupe Fiasco, but its sad because as dope as these artists are in the mainstream sense these guys are just underground artists who probably wont even go gold. Hip Hop is in a very vulnerable state and to some extent you can blame the DJ's cuz there the ones playing the same bullshit 5-6 times every hour which saturates the weak minded and the children giving them the impression that hip hop aint about actual talent but rather a catchy hook and a beat that everybody can dance too. Being from GA, Im dont mind those snap songs when Im in the club but the other 95% of my life thats Im not in the club I wanna hear that real shit, but everything moves in cycles, this is no different than when Puffy started the Jiggy era and everyone thought he was gonna ruin hip hop.

Posted by: TeezyW at October 12, 2006 09:21 AM

when I speak, I need cemetary silence." Nas is right, music, collectively is watered down and we need a new direction. with him, game, and jigga dropping, (maybe raekwon?) fans will see what a real artist rap album sounds like.

Posted by: the one at October 12, 2006 09:16 AM

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As far as Rae is concerned...that nigga is a wrap. Aftermath has been around for years and all they do is push niggaz shit back. Rakim ? Eve ? Game ? Truth Hurts ?
If it ain't 50 or Em, it ain't coming out on Aftermath. Their history speaks for itself.

Posted by: ihadnochoice at October 12, 2006 09:24 AM

Biggie and Big Pun were the fattest bastards in rap history and they are remembered as legends and they both are platinum(Biggie Multi-Platinum) selling artist. So how the hell can u only say image is everything...ni99a this ain't a fuckin' Sprint COMMERCIAL!

Posted by: Xclusive BK Dude at October 12, 2006 09:18 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

LMAO!

What up yall?

All I can say is I cant wait for the nas to drop. I dont care if its December or May, WHENEVER it hits the racks, its as good as copped.

Posted by: Dig at October 12, 2006 09:25 AM

Biggie and Big Pun were the fattest bastards in rap history and they are remembered as legends and they both are platinum(Biggie Multi-Platinum) selling artist. So how the hell can u only say image is everything...ni99a this ain't a fuckin' Sprint COMMERCIAL!

Posted by: Xclusive BK Dude at October 12, 2006 09:18 AM

co-sign!

That is some stupid shit. Jay is the ugliest nigga around, Big even acknowledged being black and ugly. Diddy only has swagger, that's an unattractive dude(all according to my wife). Looks don't sell shit!

Posted by: ernest frazier at October 12, 2006 09:26 AM

Hey peoples:-)

I hate to say it but...hiphop is dead or slowly dying...it's fucked up b/c that's what most of us grew up on but how do you think our parents felt when hiphop started...they were like wtf? b/c they grew up on motown classics that everybody loved, but it eventually died out...I understand the fuss but that's what happens every 20 years or so...a new genre of music is created & the previous is old news...

Posted by: slimgoody at October 12, 2006 09:31 AM

What's up Dig?

I'm laughing at some of these posts. I respect people's opinions but some of these people are extremely misguided.

@ihadno

I think Dre is going to put Rae out quickly. I think when he signed Rakim he was in a creative funk because of his own album. I also think there was still a disconnect between NY and Dre during that time also. He bought it back with "Big Bang" and I think he discovered a formula for nationwide fans. I mean "One Blood" is hot as hell. I'm holding out for that new "Cuban Linx" and I'm copping whether it's good or not. I'm a Rae stan!

Posted by: ernest frazier at October 12, 2006 09:31 AM

Wud up Ernest, Xclusive BK Dude!

Posted by: MY 2 CENTZ at October 12, 2006 09:31 AM

nas need to shut the f*ck up,what has he been doing all these years while his mates are making the cheddar,nigga need to make his money,why aint jay talking sh*t? cos they all rich, nas dont expect new generations to listen to his novel he calls verse,matter er fact nas is boring although am a fan.

Posted by: 4qu at October 12, 2006 09:31 AM

What's up slim!

Nas hit the nail on the head. The radio is the reason for hip hop's dying state. I don't care though. I'm still going to buy Nas and Jay. I'm still going to get what I can for my whip. I don't think it's dead yet it just isn't what it used to be.

Posted by: ernest frazier at October 12, 2006 09:33 AM

People are so focused on the current state of hip hop that they fail to see the current state of THE COUNTRY. The reason for the watered down music is because of this watered down society.

If music is a reflection of real life than what does the current music say about the current state of our lives?

It's not just hip hop that's feeling the wrath, it's in other genres as well. Rock, alternative, hell even country. I saw a country music video that was titled "Honkey Tonk Baddonka Donk" wtf?

This country is going to hell in a handbasket because of the smut, trash and filth that's being shoved down our throats everyday. If it's not the Girls Gone Wild commericials, it's the Levitra commericials that come on in between our favorite shows.

It's 2006 and you can now hear, bitch, ass, I even heard bullshit, on REGULAR TELEVISION. THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH AMERICA, not just hip hop.

The music is a direct reflection of the type of images that we are protraying to our children and even to adults.

Everybody wants to be a gangsta, everybody wants to be a killer, everybody slang dope, everybody fucks four broads at once. It's sickening and we need to look at the bigger picture, not just at hip hop.

Morality, values and decency have been pushed to the side and THAT is the reason that you have so much nonsense floating over the airwaves. Peoples goals and priorities are intermingled in a sexually charged immoral mindstate.

But hey, that's just my opinion.

Posted by: N-Site at October 12, 2006 09:34 AM

Whats good usuals its way 2 many to name.

I'm glad Reckless finally has a decent topic but I know the same stan thats been attacking the blog since Monday morning is lurking in the background so I'ma just fall back b4 he gets here. Everybody have a good day.

FUCK THE STANS!
BROOKLYN STAND UP!

Posted by: Xclusive BK Dude at October 12, 2006 09:36 AM

@ Slim

Well said. You know what, I'll be playing the hip hop oldies in 20 years. Saying what you know about that? That's grown folk music. LOL

Posted by: MY 2 CENTZ at October 12, 2006 09:36 AM

We need to just support each other.
Give a nigga some help fool.

Stop hating on niggas.
Then we can all come up.

New Music
"Touch Da Ceiling"
From: Intellectual Wizardry/I.W.

Off the forthcoming Album/Mixtape
"The Faculty"

Click the link below to listen

Posted by: Essex at October 12, 2006 09:37 AM

I touch myself

Posted by: Anonymous at October 12, 2006 09:37 AM

Nas hit it right on the head. Chuck D once called Hip Hop the Black CNN now it is just Black Buffoonery for the most part.

What else is new, Nas is on point and clearly stated my views...I mean I could not have said better if my name was Nasir...

Posted by: BIGUP2BK at October 12, 2006 09:39 AM

Correction:

What else is new, Nas is on point and clearly stated my views...I mean I could not have said it better if my name was Nasir...


Peace to the Real...

Posted by: BIGUP2BK at October 12, 2006 09:40 AM

Posted by: ernest frazier at October 12, 2006 09:31 AM
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Rae is my nigga too but "Aftermath" and quick release is an oxymoron to say the least. Dre can't even get his own album out. I'll believe it when I see it but I don't have faith in Rae dropping anytime soon. He had Rakim rotting away . He had Eve in the bucket and let her go. He couldn't put Game out so he shipped him to G-Unit. Truth Hurts left just as fast as she came. Stat Quo is not the status quo on there either. I just don't believe it will happen.

Posted by: ihadnochoice at October 12, 2006 09:41 AM

BIGUP

Wud up? Any other trips down memory lane? I'm going to have to go through my tape collection now.

Posted by: MY 2 CENTZ at October 12, 2006 09:41 AM

I hope his shit ain't garbage, what he tryna kick knowledge?

Guess we'll see in 2nd Quarter 2007 after Hov flops. Nas WILL NOT sell a mil. Despite that, I hope itz iLL. He has a big responsibility to drop some dope shit no matter what spin he puts on the title.
I'll be suprised if Jay makes it to a mil. Hope he comes better than those first two singles. Well at least the first one. Second one is "ehh"

Damn, I musta had a 32oz Haterade this mnornin!

L U M P

Posted by: the mayor Dick Daley, Chi-Town at October 12, 2006 09:44 AM

@ ihadnochoice

They just signed this new cat name Joel Ortiz. Dude is sick, his style and flow reminds me of Big Pun but I think his going to get shelved too. It's a shame cause he is raw fresh talent comming out of Brooklyn.

Posted by: MY 2 CENTZ at October 12, 2006 09:45 AM

Hey E. Frazier

Yes, that's true, it's not all the way dead but dying...slowly...things change, there are still a few peoples that are waiting on hiphop to come back, but the truth is it's never gonna be like it was....
Like my 2 cents stated, we gonna be listening to rap/hiphop in 20 years old as hell, talkin bout "what u know about that"....everything is a big circle...hiphop had a great run but now it's over...

Posted by: slimgoody at October 12, 2006 09:45 AM

What up, Ernest?

Slim/NSite/BigUp and everybody else Im missin.......

NSite: State of the Country? State of the WORLD! To me thats the issue though. Thats what hip hop USE to be. Hip hop use to be the avenue by which "we" voiced our concerns and opinions about the "our" world and the world at large. Today - where's the message? Where's the profound thinking? Where is the lyricism? All that shit - just like the world around us - has gone to shit. I sooo feel you.

Posted by: Dig at October 12, 2006 09:45 AM

Well said. You know what, I'll be playing the hip hop oldies in 20 years. Saying what you know about that? That's grown folk music. LOL

Posted by: MY 2 CENTZ at October 12, 2006 09:36 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
LOL, exactly!

Posted by: slimgoody at October 12, 2006 09:46 AM

@ My 2

Man...I was in Hip Hop heaven going down Hip Hop memory Lane....lol.

It's 2 bad you have do an all out investigation on a joint today b4 U copp it when back in the day U knew the joint was money and U didn't have to ask anyone for an opinion ... it was understood that the joint was hot....Those were the days...

Posted by: BIGUP2BK at October 12, 2006 09:48 AM

nas is too old period, and he could cure somebody with insomnia with that boring flow and fucking cryptic code lyrics. Hip hop is for the young youthful people of the world, so if you over 30 listen to jazz and grow up youve got to mature at some stage.

Posted by: topgun at October 12, 2006 09:49 AM

The Jay singels ain't all that to me. They are alright but I hope there is better to come. The stuff that I've heard from Nas since he signed are hot. The Diddy and Ceelo joint is fucking flawless. He had Diddy sounding like he should get the crown. That Hi-Tek joint is crazy also and I won't even begin to speak on the Game shit. I can honestly see Jay coming out the gate for 700K easy. Just the anticipation alone is gonna drive sales up. That has no bearing on the quality of the album but I never worry about quality when Nas and Jay are the topic. Nas will sell because he is dropping right before Christmas and that is always the biggest selling week but fuck the sales... I just want a classic.

Posted by: ihadnochoice at October 12, 2006 09:49 AM

Hip Hop is dying cuz people like E.Frazier are waiting on a Raekwon album!
Folks dont wanna hear real talk from Saigon, Southern Cats like Z-Ro...ya'll wanna hear recycled Non-Sense from the likes of Jay-Z...Not tryin to start an argument on Jay, but damn, pass da mic...He aint talkin bout shit! Look toward the future and not the past and maybe Hip Hop will have some life!
NAS is tha truth tho!

THA KING HAS SPOKEN!

Posted by: KINGofSOHH at October 12, 2006 09:52 AM

Peace to Dig, Slim and N-Site and everyone else

Posted by: BIGUP2BK at October 12, 2006 09:55 AM

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Posted by: FLAVORRRRRRRR FLAVVVVVVVVVVVVV at October 12, 2006 09:55 AM

Sup Slim, Dig, N-Site, X-clusive, Big-Up...

Posted by: ODEMIC at October 12, 2006 09:56 AM

@ ihadnochoice

They just signed this new cat name Joel Ortiz. Dude is sick, his style and flow reminds me of Big Pun but I think his going to get shelved too. It's a shame cause he is raw fresh talent comming out of Brooklyn.

Posted by: MY 2 CENTZ at October 12, 2006 09:45 AM

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Joell is nice. Its just that Aftermath isn't the best place for a new artist. Its hit or miss with dre. There is never any in between. Its almost as if he won't put a nigga out unl.ess he is gonna sell 500K the first week. Dre is an amzing producer and all that but he has had his fair share of flops as far as his label is concerned. The Firm album was hot but it seemed as if everything went wrong on that project. I dig Dre but I just don't believe in him developing any artist.

Posted by: ihadnochoice at October 12, 2006 09:57 AM

i mean ive got to admit im looking forward to the nas album more than jays. I mean id go as far to say id rather listen to lil john, than them two jay tracks, the south seems to have become the lyrical capital know.

Posted by: BIGUP2BK at October 12, 2006 09:59 AM

Posted by: FLAVORRRRRRRR FLAVVVVVVVVVVVVV at October 12, 2006 09:55 AM


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I told ya'll ni99as the stan is coming we need to start our own fuckin' blog especially since Reckless punk ass don't want to block these stupid ni99as IP Addresses. E. Frazier lead the way homie.

Posted by: Xclusive BK Dude at October 12, 2006 10:00 AM

Posted by: BIGUP2BK at October 12, 2006 09:59 AM


^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That was not BigUp who made that stupid ass comment I put money on that shyt. Don't mind me I'm just tryna pick off all the stans as they come people, if it gets to overwhelming I'm done.

Posted by: Xclusive BK Dude at October 12, 2006 10:01 AM

Niggas and their juvenile Shit.....

Anyway, I think that it is is not that shit is old and we are asking for it to be recycled but we just hunger for some relevant and meaningful shit at some point.

Personally, I want some meat at some point. I don't want meat exclusively b/c that will give me colon cancer. However at some point give me some real meat and not just candy...that is my metaphor for the game (past and present)as I see it.

Posted by: BIGUP2BK at October 12, 2006 10:02 AM

Personally, I want some meat at some point. I don't want meat exclusively b/c that will give me colon cancer. However at some point give me some real meat and not just candy...that is my metaphor for the game (past and present)as I see it.

Posted by: BIGUP2BK at October 12, 2006 10:02 AM


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Don't ever say "i want some meat" again...lol.
I'll let it slide this time but never again...lol.

Posted by: ihadnochoice at October 12, 2006 10:05 AM

You guys & gals know it's 2 many of yall 2 name but here it goes anyway...

Whats up,

E. Frazier, Dig, N-Site, Odemic, Xclusive BK Dude, Bigup2bk, my 2 cents, & anyone else I 4got...& the rest who r coming...Disrespect, Chevy, Naj, SK, KSH...

Posted by: slimgoody at October 12, 2006 10:07 AM

@XBX

I already did that one.

My blog is new and it's not about hip hop, I leave that to Reckless.

These fucking stans make me want to throw up. I shouldn't have even mentioned this KingofSohh cat in my post. Now he referenced me in his. I don't care about all the innuendo, I'm copping Jay, Nas and any other dope mc out here. I still have Lupe in the plastic because I'm still stuck on Ice Cube. I'm going to pull it out this weekend for my tailgate party before the Bears on Monday night.

Posted by: ernest frazier at October 12, 2006 10:08 AM

I thought that nigga album was droppin next month????

Posted by: WTF at October 12, 2006 10:09 AM

@ BIGUP2BK

Yea, they were. I wouldn't change it for the world. Hip Hop back then was so different, so rebelest. You had to stay up to listen to 98.7 kiss FM Red Alert to get your dose of hip hop because coporate america frowned on it. Parent use to say "that's not music". Then the late 80's, you thought to yourself hip hop couldn't get any better but by the 90's corporate america finally starting accepting it. Hip Hop radio stations started popping up, it started to explode into mainstream then by the late 90's into 2000 it just started to become a gimmick a way of corporate america to capitalize of it. I tell you this too when Puffy stepped on the scene this is when all that hip hop mixed into pop imerged. Recycling beat with no content in it. I never liked puff from day one. Just because how he just butchered hip hop. As a DJ back then I had to buy his records because people wanted those party traks. You see the DJ has to play what people like, your goal is to get people on that dance floor. So to blam a DJ for playing BS it's not there call, it's the listeners and party goers. Hip Hop has definitely changed for the worse

Posted by: My 2 CENTZ at October 12, 2006 10:09 AM

I swear we already touched on this topic

@ the Nas fell off comment

same thing that happened to Wu Tang
happened to Nas except he handled it better.
He came into the industry as a hybrid between a MC and the streets and the streets embraced him. However all Artist when they get successful and financially leave the streets. Grow in a different direction. In alot of ways his growth left alot of ngz who hadn't grown with him, behind. Corner ngz want to listen to Corner nga sht. They don't care how much skill is in it. Just spit that hard street sht that I living right now. Perfect example is Jeezy lyrically is terrible Rick Ross is avg lyrically Dipset is terrible but they sell cause they're saying the sht corner ngz want to hear. They want you to stay confined to the lifestyle they are still living. For me at lot of Nas' contradictions are due to Nas trying to balance growing as a man and still trying to be loyal his backpack/emcee fan base and the streets he grew up in. However, He's out grown those streets he grew up in. And them ngz when you ask em about Nas say I ain't feeling him no more. Cause he ain't spitting that crazy crack, shot em up, street dreams sht he was spitting when he first came out. Its why so many artist try so hard to keep it real. So they won't get back to their hood and have ngz say, you changed when the truth is you grew and they didn't, Ex Im into Big things listen to the chorus.
When Jay said that shit is garbage what you tryin spit knowledge, that was how Nas was viewed by every lil nga on the block still slanging. Jay is still spitting that crack sht. He still reps us. (Bull you know how much mental insite was on reasonable doubt and In my lifetime vol 1 Jay switched up for sales and now yall love him)
Trust corner ngz ain't trying to hear dat sht.
Even though Jay later contradicted himself after his Blueprint album struggled in sales. And said "Yall don't respect my knowledge yall respect my dollars." I.E. saying yall are ignorant.
I tried to give you something real and ain't buy the record which is what Nas goes through trying to stand up and say something meaningful to the street he grew up in. Nas never fell off he grew
those that didn't grow with him say he fell off. The proof in the type of people that say Nas Fell off.

Posted by: Banga! at October 12, 2006 10:10 AM

Nas spaeks tha truth.
but who's with 'em?
who is ready to put away makin they millions of dollars to go political with this thing?

and thats where the probablem occurs, alot of these rappers never made money like da wasy they makin abd how easy they makin it and they just not ready for all dat.
because black folk dont stick together no mo'. everybody's out to get theirs and theirs only.


Texas baby!

Posted by: Disrespect at October 12, 2006 10:10 AM

these stans are getting unbearable. Anyway ive got some info before i go, im moving from detroit to new york at some point, i need a change in my life as im getting closer to 30, and i want to experience different things.

Posted by: slimgoody at October 12, 2006 10:11 AM

wuttup world? htownmike is in the building??????

nas go hard.

anybody hatin' a legend eat a dick.

Posted by: htownmike at October 12, 2006 10:11 AM

@ihadno

Like I said earlier, I think Dre just took a little time to find his lane and he had 50 and Em doing major shit. Eve's album with Dre did some nice work. My wife played that shit like it was the only joint out a few years ago. I think he connected with the NY public when he put out Busta.

BTW

HI slim!

Posted by: ernest frazier at October 12, 2006 10:12 AM

Posted by: ernest frazier at October 12, 2006 10:08 AM


^^^^^^^^^^^^

The bears are MONSTERS this season I still can't believe how good they've become in just 2 season together. Its all gravy bcuz the Giants are back on track baby, New York taking it, Giants & Mets...what more can I say???

R.I.P.
Yankee Pitcher Cory Lidle

Posted by: Xclusive BK Dude at October 12, 2006 10:12 AM

and please don't ask why i just put questions marks after i made a comment, damn it's still kinda early LOL

Posted by: htownmike at October 12, 2006 10:13 AM

Nas needs to shut his mouth. like Cam said,"and u claim to ba a hip hop head, doo wop, 2 shots in his hip hop head, this way the whole world know that hip hop dead!" he's dead, he 45 yrs old, jay 52, they need to give it up. chancletas and kufis.lol!

Posted by: king jaffey joe at October 12, 2006 10:16 AM

Nas spaeks tha truth.
but who's with 'em?
who is ready to put away makin they millions of dollars to go political with this thing?

and thats where the probablem occurs, alot of these rappers never made money like da wasy they makin abd how easy they makin it and they just not ready for all dat.
because black folk dont stick together no mo'. everybody's out to get theirs and theirs only.


Texas baby!

Posted by: Disrespect at October 12, 2006 10:10 AM

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But its a job... its their employment. They don't have built in pensions and healthcare. Niggaz know thaty they only have a couple of years in this business so they try to get as much as they can while they can. I don't hate on a nigga for going after the paper because in the end of it all, we ain't gonna take care of him when he stops rapping. As fans, we get it twisted as far as the business is concerned. We can't expect these niggaz to sit in a studio and make music with no intention of making money behind it. Time is money and they need that kick back. I don't fault a nigga for going left and going after that paper but you have to deal with it when it backfires on you. No one person is responsible for bringing this hip hop shit to the forefront and no one person can bring it down. How sad was it to see that nigga from Goodie Mob taking collections to get a prosthetic limb after his accident ? Where were the fans at for that ? Niggaz got family to take care of.

Posted by: ihadnochoice at October 12, 2006 10:17 AM

yo hater you's a dumb soft sack ass nigga cause you said Nas don't go plat? NIGGA are you fucking dumb? check Riaa.com ALL OF HIS ALBUMS HAVE GONE PLAT THE ONLY ONE THAT DIDN'T GO PLAT SOON AFTER REALESE WAS ILLMATIC AND THATS CAUSE IT WAS SLEPT ON AT THE TIME. DUMB FUCKIN ASS CLOWN. I don't hop in on the beef shit and say fuck this group or that group but nigga when you speak speak truth look the shit up. Garbage as fuck nut! Damn I can't stand lil bitches comin slick out the mouth and don't know shit.
DAMN!

Posted by: hiphophead at October 12, 2006 10:17 AM

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Posted by: ? at October 12, 2006 10:18 AM

Yea, I'm not staying long either. As soon as htownmike's stan shows up, the blog goes to shit.

Slim, I'm sure that isn't you dropping shouts and talking about moving from the "D" so I'm not going to respond any further. If it is you, then I'm sorry.

Here's my page.

http://360.yahoo.com/profile-y_dPZZ00aahZchV7zGVqcLcBC5.a

For all my homies, drop by every once in a while.

I'll hang in here for a little while longer. The stans are getting obnoxious and Reckless isn't blocking them.

Posted by: ernest frazier at October 12, 2006 10:19 AM

@ihadno

Exactly...

need this topic be elaborated anymore?

i mean that just said it all.

texas Baby!

Posted by: Disrespect at October 12, 2006 10:20 AM

this is a classic case of a house school nigga not feeling the new cats.
nas and busta wanna take it back to the rope chain and kangol days but thats not happening because the younger generation are the one's buyin hiphop.chris to bobby brown?nas is really desperate to be heard,nas should have young mentor and a label then he would not feel this way.dude is outdated am 30 years old no bias.but i keep up with all hiphop and this aint the 2000.

Posted by: k-rob at October 12, 2006 10:20 AM

@ihadno

Like I said earlier, I think Dre just took a little time to find his lane and he had 50 and Em doing major shit. Eve's album with Dre did some nice work. My wife played that shit like it was the only joint out a few years ago. I think he connected with the NY public when he put out Busta.

BTW

HI slim!

Posted by: ernest frazier at October 12, 2006 10:12 AM

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Eve never released anything under Dre. She was signed to him a while back and he let her go to Ruff Ryders. They have a joint venture now (of course after she has established herself) and her next joint will come out under Ruff Ryder/Aftermath but who know if that will ever happen. Dre always get love here in NYC because he is just that nigga. There are certain artist that get love regardless of where they are from and Dre is one of him because you can't deny his contributions to this game. But never the less, I hope Dre makes me eat my words in regards to Rae. Cuban Linx Two mixtape is incredible.

Posted by: ihadnochoice at October 12, 2006 10:22 AM

don't lose faith Slim
you still cool wit me


Yo I can't stop bumping Trey Songz

Yo I highly recommend everyone support this dude he's gotta gift for writing
his sht is tight!

Posted by: Banga! at October 12, 2006 10:23 AM

i mean ive got to admit im looking forward to the nas album more than jays. I mean id go as far to say id rather listen to lil john, than them two jay tracks, the south seems to have become the lyrical capital know.

Posted by: BIGUP2BK at October 12, 2006 09:59 AM

Homie, is your fuckin existence so bad that U have to try to suck my dick and niggas’ dick all day long, every day.

Are you so fuckin inconsiderate and retarded that when a group of educated Black people want to gather in a forum to speak about issues that matter to us a community and as a people that U would daily come on here and fuck it up. Do you hate your own people that much?

Are U doing this simply b/c U are a fuckin uncle Tom and the idea hate of Black people, Black Progress and Black progressive conscious thought? Does the idea of Black people engaging in a meaningful topic infuriate you so deeply and severely that in your pervasive cognitively deficient feeble mind you feel you accomplished some kind of warp victory coming on here and being a asshole and a Uncle Tom?

Perhaps you are whiteboy who is just a vicious racist and you chose this blog to fuck up b/c out of this blog (and others) you see progressive political, social BLACK conscious thought and so being the racist cracka that you are you have decided to fuck up the blog.

Which is it….in my view either way you are an enemy to our people and are worthy of the severest penalty that one should suffer when they betray their people or openly hopeh for the destruction of Black people as you clearly are doing.

And Reckless where is your ethics.

You need take some lessons from Soulman. Why is it that Soulman does not let his blog get corrupted by Uncle Toms, racists and gay juveniles but day after day you let this shit ride? Are you getting paid by the each posts and thus don’t give a fuck about what goes on on your blog. Maybe we all should go over to Soulman or some else who is willing to shut the shit down.

Homie each day I sign on here I am loosing more and more respect from you b/c you are starting to looking like an unethical ho… Deep in my heart I saw U as real cat but every since this shit has been going on you have lost your dick and nuts. Nigga, stand the fuck up and shut these mumfuckas down or risk everyone eventually breaking the fuck out.

Stop bowing down to the lute and not standing up for what is right.

If you deleted that bullshit it would not happen. However b/c of the Cheddar U R sitting on your ass letting these fuckin sambos and klansmen do this shit.

U R fucking up, son…real talk.

Posted by: BIGUP2BK at October 12, 2006 10:24 AM

Nas needs to shut his mouth. like Cam said,"and u claim to ba a hip hop head, doo wop, 2 shots in his hip hop head, this way the whole world know that hip hop dead!" he's dead, he 45 yrs old, jay 52, they need to give it up. chancletas and kufis.lol!

Posted by: king jaffey joe at October 12, 2006 10:16 AM

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Cam is 2 years younger than Nas so what the fuck is he talking....

Posted by: ihadnochoice at October 12, 2006 10:24 AM

theres no way im gonna buy jays shit, the motherfuckas 37 and is still gonna be talkin bout selling crack on this album when he was doing it 15 years ago. I mean for fuck sake put your grandpa slippers on and shut the fuck up nigga. And this nigga nas need to sit his 33 year old ass down and let people like banks,weezy,game,buck and other YOUNG niggas do they thing, cause the niggas past it period.

Posted by: topgun at October 12, 2006 10:26 AM

Personally, I want some meat at some point. I don't want meat exclusively b/c that will give me colon cancer. However at some point give me some real meat and not just candy...that is my metaphor for the game (past and present)as I see it.

Posted by: BIGUP2BK at October 12, 2006 10:02 AM


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Don't ever say "i want some meat" again...lol.
I'll let it slide this time but never again...lol.

Posted by: ihadnochoice at October 12, 2006 10:05 AM

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Good Point!!!!

LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

Why R U fuckin with me, son

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Hip Hop Meat....ahhh fuck it....

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Point well Taken...

LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: BIGUP2BK at October 12, 2006 10:26 AM

I hope the stans are happy...your job is done you can now kill yourself...you've officially ran me off the blog...if I could whoop your ass like your mother should have or your daddy, but didnt stick around for your ignorant ass, I would, but since I can't, I'm out...

*Thanks E. Frazier for recognizing that shit wasn't me...I didnt write that shit about moving to no damn NY, but I see my fans know where I'm from...just dont come stalking me...*

ANY POST AFTER 10:31AM IS NOT slimgoody!!!

Posted by: slimgoody at October 12, 2006 10:31 AM

*************TOPIC CHANGE***************

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

They don't make woodchucks like they use too. wood chucks killed hiphop!

Posted by: MY 2 CENTZ at October 12, 2006 10:31 AM

hater check the facts:

Illmatic 1x Plat 12/1101
It Was Written 9/06/96 2x Plat
I Am 5/5/99 2x Plat
Nastradamus His weakest Lp 1x Plat 12/22/99
Stillmatic 1/16/02 1x Plat
God's Son 1/14/03 1x plat
Streets Disciple 11/18/05 1x plat

That's all his shit except the Firm shit which don't really count because it won't SOlo and it still went GOLD NIGGA. SO stop fuckin hating.

Posted by: hiphophead at October 12, 2006 10:31 AM

Oh yeah E. Frazier

I can't check your page out from work but will make sure to check it when I get to the crib, have a nice day:-)

Posted by: slimgoody at October 12, 2006 10:32 AM

Corrections; I wrote so fast out of my anger for Reckless not standing the fuck up that I had madd typos in my post earlier...Anyway, fuck the other typos in the post but this part below needed clarity:
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Are you so fuckin inconsiderate and retarded that when a group of educated Black people want to gather in a forum to speak about issues that matter to us as a community and as a people that U would daily come on here and fuck it up. Do you hate your own people that much?

Are U doing this simply b/c U are a fuckin uncle Tom and the hate idea of seeing Black people building; Black Progress and Black progressive conscious thought?

Posted by: BIGUP2BK at October 12, 2006 10:32 AM

Posted by: BIGUP2BK at October 12, 2006 10:26 AM
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LOL...
I am just looking out for you. People might get the wrong idea about the "meat" and how bad you want it.... nah mean...lol.
Aight.. I'm done with the "meat" talk.

Any D.C. cats up in here ? I'll be down there to bang out some of yall hoes for Howard homecoming so hide your women.

Posted by: ihadnochoice at October 12, 2006 10:33 AM

FUCK THIS BLOG I'M OFFICIALLY AN SOHH SOULFUL BLOGGER!


PEACE 2 EVERYBODY WHO'S LEFT BEHIND IN THIS SHITTY BLOG!

Posted by: Xclusive BK Dude at October 12, 2006 10:33 AM

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Posted by: germs187 at October 12, 2006 10:34 AM

U R fucking up, son…real talk.


Posted by: BIGUP2BK at October 12, 2006 10:24 AM

Co-sign! That is exactly what I was thinking yesterday when I migrated over to Soulful for a few threads. It's hard to build when you don't know whether you're responding to a stan or the real deal. Htownmike has been destroyed over here thanks to this stan. I'm not over stating the fact that I was convinced that mike was making those posts, but I'm sure that we were all fooled.

Reckless, I don't understand your motives but I do understand this point. I went to your man Soulful yesterday and not one stan got through. I know you have to ability to stop a lot of this shit. You're losing your entire crop of people that have expanded your shit to match Soulfuls amount of posts. Letting the stans add to that is like addition by subtraction. You lose integrity, but you gain whatever it is you have gained from allowing it. I guess we know your price, brother!

Posted by: ernest frazier at October 12, 2006 10:35 AM

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