SOHH NYC

Props SOHH NYC!

But there's one thing you gotta remember though. All these southern rppers aren't like the wack ass Pimp C's, D4L's of the south. There have been some very high quality southern rappers over the years, and just as you dont want people to take 50 Cent and Dipset as NY Hip Hop you shouldnt take UGK and D4L as real southern hip hop.

Outkast(one of the best duos in ALL of rap), Ludacris, Ghetto Boys, Scarface, even T.I. are all examples of good southern rappers. Dont forget, they do exist.

btw, FIRST!

Why be so bitter about Pimp C`s remarks, truth hurts, don`t it. He sure said the real man, what you are saying is if a nigga go to school and gets successful, he gotta not forget his teacher coz she gave him knowledge. Grow the fuck up man and use some common sense. A stupid person do`nt analyse shit ad try to make sense of things, but rush to defend themselves yet noone is attacking you. l love NY rap and l hate the south, but that don`t mean there is no good rappers there. Ludacris and Pimp C himself to name a few. Record sales don`t say shit b, why you downplay the Pimp. He is good at what he does, you hate so much thats why no good shit comes out of NY nomore. NY shit is not bubbling because the shit is not good, niggaz ain`t being creative, they all say the same shit, no style in teir raps. Look at the cats who ran NY for a minute, they all got different styles that nobody has, X, Mase, Jigga, Nas, Cam, Ja, LL, KRS, Meth, Biggie(RIP), since all these cats got familiar, nothing good came out. 50 got on not because he is good, but because he had a story, about being shot, not that he had a flow. So nigga use common sense when you decide to attack true statements. l don`t wanna hear someone`s life story over and over again and how they sold drugs and how their pops left them and they had to grind for their family when in actual fact they were grinding for shine, not for food. Fuck niggaz, they make me sick. Cop that "year of the dog again" if you want that real NY shit.

DAMN RECKLESS ITS 2 EARLY IN THE MORNING 4 THIS SHYT!

But yo on the real u put them below the Mason-Dixon line ni99as on the spot lol thats fucced up how u shouted out grown ass woman that can't even defend themselves on the blog fam. What if ya moms couldn't read and ni99as shouted her out and threw it in ya face...thats asking for an ass woopen. But instead of taking your anger out on the entire south bcuz of one dudes mouth u should have just came at him(Pimp C) directly. Damn and I thought Iraq had alot of collateral damage.

But seriously the public education system in the south is one of the worst in the country and instead of teasing our southern breaden for there lack of knowing their slave language we should be trying to help build them down bottom and up-top. NYC school systems are fucced up also, believe me I know i work for the Dept. of Ed. Alot of these teachers are numb-skulls that couldn't get a real job outside of the education department. Nevertheless, the statement by Pimp C was disrespectful and uncalled for I was surprised to see it was him who said that stupid shyt in the 1st place. I was expecting it to be Mike Jones or Pastor Troy. Anyway Reckless I smell a 1,000 post blog today let me get the hell out of here b4 the stans sign on.

SHOUT OUTS 2 THE USUALS!

PEACE!
BROOKLYN STAND UP!

whoooaaaaa chillout homeboy! The reason Pimp C moved so few units is because he's on a HORRIBLE LABEL (rap-a-lot) who has quite possibly the worst promotion out there.

this looks like a classic case of "damn we got called out and we don't like it!" I'll reiterate what pimp c said...STOP CRYING MAYNE! god ya'll niggaz make me sick. Ya'll carried the torch throughout the golden years and helped usher in the current situation of guadiness, glitz and glamour. A la' puffy, biggie, jay-z, nas...

I love NAS he's my favorite rapper. I'm from the south and I have more East coast cd's than I have south cd's and it's because I favor lyricism. But lately it's been hard for me to pic up an east coast cd's cuz ya'll niggaz are conforming! i.e. GRILLZ, TRAPPIN', USING OUR SLANG...

IT'S NOT OUR FAULT THAT THE NEGRA CHANNEL *BET ISN'T BEHIND YA'LL LIKE THEY USED TO BE IN THROUGHOUT THE 80'S TO 2000. YA'LL HAD A SERIOUS DECLINE IN QUALITY MATERIAL BEING RELEASE!!!

the reason NY is falling off is because the people who grew up loving rakim, ATCQ, LL COOL J, biggie, *insert favorite ny rapper, didn't put bugs in their kids ears. So, naturally if they didn't have any direction the kids will stray to the fucking idiot box and watch all the shuckin' and jivin' on the negra channel *BET. You best believe my child will know about SCARFACE, OUTKAST, LUDACRIS, CHAMILLIONAIRE, ETC...

people change and situations change.. GROW UP AND QUIT CRYING....

-micah

https://www.myspace.com/kingmicah

p.s. YES D4L is garbage, but I remember having to listen to plenty of NY BULLSHIT ALSO! need i remind you about das efx who wasn't shit w/o premo production?

nelly murdered KRS one in a battle!-FACT.haha.dirty south stand up!

The thing is no one can really blame the Blacks in the south for how they speak because a lot of them got their speech and interest in learning from the Redneck southerners. You know how Redneck southerners "talk" and how much they care about learning (not including "Massa" time). Wait, I didnt make that sound any better did I? Um, in modern times...Black southerners are a lot smarter than they once were (in general) but I guess some think "acting" dumb is...cool? But anyway, I try to look at it from a southerners point of view and I can honestly understand what Pimp C is saying about "Back in the day..blah"...I just simply don't give a fuck because of the lyrical content shown TODAY. And of ALL the rappers to say some shit like this, it had to be some non-rapping ass, flopping ass, washed up "Pimp C"? I could take it into consideration more if someone who actually had TALENT said all this, but...come on lmao. Didnt this herb get locked up for pulling some shit out on a female or what? lmao. I mean I may be off on the details but I know Im close. But there is talent in the south. The thing is nobody is seeing the talent so how the hell are people supposed to look at the South differently when there arent many rappers we see presented differently...including Pimp C? Maybe this fool should concentrate on bettering his "rhymes" first cause if HH is dying, he would be one of the wack ass fools killing it lol. Seriously though...theres talent everywhere that needs to be seen and heard to clear all misconceptions about all regions and coasts up, but Pimp C aint one of them. Hell, I didnt even know who he was until "Big Pimpin". He does need to "get in the know" of how much he sucks ass on the mic though. I do wish that the south would be presented correctly though...every region to be presented correctly. Cause niggas like Pimp C, New Camron, Wolfpack, and Chingy are just embarassing for everybody.

jack - nelly isn't from the south...read a book.

yo SOHH RECKLESS once again i feel you....you would think that at least someone in the rap game would know they history and how the south takes our NEW YORK styles after ware it out for like 15 years, how he can say we copying the south bout wearing grills is beyond me and check it; we NEW YORKERS dont call em "grillz" we call em fronts....if the south wants to listen to rap of the 80's or early 90's they gonna have to bump that NEW YORK flavor, the south is the only region that dont got a old-school like the east coast and the west coast. Its a proven fact the south is whack if u want a bubble gum rapper or a snapper holla at the south, they gotta make up dances and all that to hide their nursery ryhmes they cant let str8 up lyrics sell like we do on the EASTCOAST...and as for the guy named jack up above sorry to bust ya bubble but nelly is from ST.Louis that aint in the south and also he aint even write his song "grillz" and when did it become cool for a rapper to not write his own ryhmes???..i feel bad for this new generation they only gonna hear whack snap music if they dont catch up with the real music

AHH...Now this is tha sucka ass, hatin ass RECKLESS that i know...
Just like a bitch ass nigga to take shit out of context...
If you read tha niggaz interview from ALLHIPHOP.COM(a real HIP HOP site) you'd know that tha man knows the history of hip hop.
Damn, a month ago, you were saying that SALES dont determine how dope a rapper is....now you're persucuting PIMP for not sellin'...
RECKLESS...ur a hypocritical bitch!
As far as PIMP, "gettin paying gigs", that nigga has a pass anywhere across tha south, midwest, westcoast, and even tha east!
All he's sayin, is that ya'll niggaz need to quit hatin on tha south and learn how to make money from this game instead of gettin raped by tha company!
Since tha south is so slow, how come these "Southern Corny" rappers got bread?!
YA'LL NIGGAZ IS CRABS IN A BUCKET!

THA KING HAS SPOKEN!
"THA SOUTH IS IN THA HOUSE...OH MY GOD!"

Pimp aint said nothin but the truth. Yall have been eatin for years, now it's our turn. And yall was wearin them gay ass fronts, we took grills to the next level, now yall jockin. Yall niggas did help kill it cause yalls material got wacker and wacker and we just picked up where yall left off and made it better.

And lets not get on sales. Rap-a-lot is a horrible label. Yall probably never heard of Trae and he could give any one of yalls no unit movin rappers a run for they money in the lyrics department. For every 1 southern flop, there's 10 out of New York. Yall need to "get in the know" of how do make money like we do and quit hatin cause yall aint eatin.

And u mention all the hiphop legends out of NY, but yall been in the spot light for the longest, so no shit. and for every couple of legends yall got, u got a hand full of wack ass niggas 2. We got our legends and developin new ones while yall shit is stagnant. When hiphop fans look back on this period, the legends to them gonna be Tip, Wayne, Luda and so on. Who yall got workin on legendary status now besides them old ass niggas??

And i wish yall stick-in-the-booty, no fun havin, sidewall ridin ass NY heads stop hatin on D4L. Look at all them old niggas makin break dance, and pop lockin songs in the 80's with no lyrics. What genious rhymes did Africa Bambata spit on "Planet Rock"? D4L make songs for the club just like they did.

Aint nobody tryin to listen to metaphores and punchlines all the time. we got Cham and Luda and Wayne that do that down here, but just cause u don't make a nigga de-cypher every fuckin thing yall u say dont mean u cant put a quality rhyme together.

Do ya thing Pimp. Port Arthur Texas and that Golden Tri stand up!!

Blah...Pimp "C" is still Corny.

nelly murdered KRS one in a battle!-FACT.haha.dirty south stand up!
Posted by: jack at September 12, 2006 06:34 AM

Dude, if you think that St. Louis is located in the southern region of this country, you are as dumb as you sound. HAHA...Idiots stand up!

Once yall outta state homos are out of line. The fact of the matter is we started this thing so it belongs to us. Until yall negros can create something of your own than you can claim shit. Until that happens this is our house an yall lames are renting. I think P forgot if it wasnt for JAY that nigga would be known on his block.

Only be known on his block. In the words of Jay-z "your future is my past/ive been there before" you guys are our sons. Think about most of the yall look up act like they're Ny including young cheezy an your wack king Ti. Fuckin lames.

@ NY GIANT

yall started it so it belongs to yall, right?

So yall got jacked for yall work and now we sellin it in yalls neighborhoods for double the price

Texas Stand Up

Posted by: sizzle at September 12, 2006 07:30 AM

^^^^^^^^^^

This is the most ignorant ni99a in the UNITED STATES please everyone just ignore this dude you should've seen the shyt he said biggin' up George Bush on yesterdays blog. I smell a house ni99a.

@ Xclusive BK Dude

Yeah, please check out what i put down on that blog. I work in the FUCKIN PENTAGON so i dont have a clue what the fuck im talkin 'bout.

I smell a ignorant ass ni99a

Texas stand up!

I definatly wouldn't call Pimp C a "Great Rapper", but he was speaking the truth.
Pimp C is a no better emcee than Too Short,and they are both legends in their own right. UGK been in the game longer than alot of these Rappers today, longer than Biggie, Jay, Wu, and Nas. They have a very loyal fan base and are respected by many in the game. Some of you gotta understand that different places on the map are feeling different things. If you were to have been born and raised in Texas then you would be felling UGK also. If you were to just open your mind up and try to listen and appreciate other sounds than your own then there wouldn't be so much hatin.
I'll tell you right now that these East Coast Rappers did it to themselves. They sold out for the dollars. All the sudden you had to have catchy hooks and "dancable" beats to make a buckl, and for the majority of these East Coast Emcees, dancing and flashy glam videos wasn't there thing. So they either sold out and flopped, or just faded away. Thats what happened. Maybe the good ol days will come back maybe they won't, I hope they do, I'm from the East. Until then Stop the Bitchin!!!!

@ SOHH Reckless:
You seem to never cease with this "North vs. South" beef. Ten years ago, it was "Eastcoast vs. Westcoast", with the same sort of complaints. The fuck do you expect? Every other region in this country to kiss the ass of NY, all day everday, because Rap was invented there? Get the fuck outta here with your stupid ass declarations! If you want respect, then you have to give it. Simple and plain.

Then you go so far with your hatred, that you try to insult how Blacks pronounce the English language in the South? Who the fuck died, and made you Encyclopedia Brown, huh? With all of your typos and the backward-ass way that you formulate your syntax? The fuck, did you graduate from Yale University with honors? Hell to the naw! So fuck off with that "We speak the White Devil's language better than Southern folks" bullshit! As if the educational system in every city that minorities dominate isn't already shot to hell!

And who the fuck told you that a garbage ass song like Laffy Taffy is worshipped and recognized in the South as real rap music? It's probably the same nigga that you sniff dope with every morning before you write these ignorant ass blogs! Laffy Taffy was a simple ass song, made by some simple ass niggas! Period. Every region has some Rap artists that are an embarrassment to the area, and NY is no exception. You don't hear niggas bringing up that "Chicken Noodle Soup" shit every week now do you? So let them D4L niggas die slow... for some nigga leave you dying slow, you bitchass nigga!

PIMP C SOUNDS LIKE A CLOWN DANCINIG WITH COKE UP HIS NOSE! HE SOUNDS BAFOONISH! PIMP C IS OVERATED ANYWAY! I LIKE T.I., YOUNG BUCK, YOUNG JEEZ, PAUL WALL, SLIM THUG & BG. BUT THIS SOUTHERN THING IS JUST A FAD! THEY WILL NOT BE DOMINATING THE CHARTS FOR THAT MUCH LONGER! I COULDN'T EVEN TELL YOU THE NAME OF A PIMP C OR UGK SONG! I DIDN'T FIND OUT WHO THEY WERE UNTIL I HEARD THEM ON JIGGA'S "BIG PIMPIN". PIMP C SHOULD SHUT UP AND THE CRITICISM LIKE A MAN! I'M TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT CANY PAINT & SYRUP! IS THAT ALL THESE SOUTHERN RAPPERS KNOW?

I'll tell you right now that these East Coast Rappers did it to themselves. They sold out for the dollars. All the sudden you had to have catchy hooks and "dancable" beats to make a buckl, and for the majority of these East Coast Emcees, dancing and flashy glam videos wasn't there thing. So they either sold out and flopped, or just faded away. Thats what happened. Maybe the good ol days will come back maybe they won't, I hope they do, I'm from the East. Until then Stop the Bitchin!!!!

Posted by: The Dude at September 12, 2006 07:40 AM

^^^^^^^i aint from the eastcoast , but i couldnt agree with that more

Posted by: sizzle at September 12, 2006 07:45 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^

Shut ya dumb ass up and go to SOHH Houston with the ignance.

its funny because I was wacthing these old MLK movies of marches and shit and half the dudes had fronts or gold teeth remember this was the 60's in the south way before rza with the fangs or whoever pimp c is right abouth the teeth trust me both my grandpas got fronts when they were teenagers the south got the golds on lock dog thats one thing yall cant say yall started trust me baby

@ Xclusive BK Dude

Lol, this salty ass nigga. hows bout u make an intelligent argument against anything i'm sayin instead of provin to this blog that u cant be no older than 15. lil ni99a

Texas stand up!

A Jack Nelly is Mid West I mean damn yall niggas need to know what the fuck your talkin about

Im from NY and right now Almost all muzic (specially NY) is garbage...
If hip hop is dead im here to bring it back to life...
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http://www.myspace.com/thorobredz

fuck all u up north niggas all you all talk about is d4 fucking l they weak as hell, but look what u all got chicken noodle soup, the whole wu-tang clan they aint sold shit since they first albums everybody first album, then all up north niggas bring up is jay-z and nas and old skool rappers ,and i know u are not going to talk about fucking dipset them corny ass niggas the only person up there that is making money is 50 and g-unit thats it, then my homeboy went up north and what HE hear in people cars is young dro TI YOUNG JEZZY RICK ROSS EVEN FAT JOE HAD TO GO IN GET A SOUTHERN PRODUCER TO TRY IN BRING HIS CARRER BACK U ALL TALK ALL THIS SHIT ABOUT SOUTHERN RAPPERS BUT U DONT UNDERSTAND WE RUN THIS SHIT RIGHT NOW ALL THE RECORDS COMPANIES UP NORTH WANT A SOUTHERN RAPPER BECAUSE IT HOT UP THEIR IN YOUR CLUBS OUR MUSIC IS PLAYING IN YOUR CARS IN GIRL ROOM BEFORE THEY GO THE CLUB U KNOW WHAT I DONT EVEN THINK YOUR GIRLS FUCK WITH UP NORTH NIGGAS THEY LOVE US SOUTHERN NIGGAS BUT ANYWAY I BET U UP NORTH NIGGAS CANT WAIT FOR JAY Z ALBUM SO U CAN SAY THAT THE NORTH IS COMING BACK THIS IS OUR YEAR SON WE ARE BACK SON
YO B WE ARE GOING TO KILL THE RAP GAME SON UP NORTH RAPPERS NEED TO STEP THEY GAME UP AND GET THAT MONEY AND STOP FUCKING CRYING SO DAMN MUCH

This is the problem with the sohh. blogs by this jack ass sohh. reckless. You want to judge a man by part of his statement and not the whole statement. Pimp C has stated how he grew up on east coast rap and he gave shout out to a lot of the pioneers and said that a lot of New York rappers even gave him a helping hand in the beginning. It's a lot of you fake ass journalist that be starting this bullshit beef between the south and the east and then you wonder why the east coast rapper can't sell. The reason NY seems to be falling off is because New York don't support their own artist so why should the rest of the country buy your shit. You come on this blog hating on Pimp C who was never a platinum artist and is a southern legend but you New York niggas can't support your own legends like KRS one,Rakim,Kool G rap, none of these niggas have had and album out in years let alone today sell the units that pimp c is selling. The south niggas are even helping 2short come back, and your bitch ass reckless hate all day every day on New York number selling artist 50. Somebody needs to smack the shit out of your bitch ass.

when the truth comes out a lot of niggas get salty

haha...all this talk about southern bubble gum, what category should we put chicken noodle soup then.........

Could someone please explain to me how ALL southern rappers are now categorized as Bubblegum or Snap rappers since D4L and Dem Franchisez boyz came out. Those songs are nothing more than entertainment and IMO are not really considered "rap" songs. Just something nice to dance to in a club. Furthermore, why should it be North vs. South anyway? It should be about the music. I gon't care if it came from Australia, if it's hot and has some meaning to it, I'm going to listen. The music should be the only important factor, not where you come from.

@ SOHH Reckless

Ur dumb as reportin is the reason east vs west coast popped off and ended the way it did. U just took this man statement and made it so broad that it seems like it's attackin a whole coast when he was just talkin 2 bitches like u. at allhiphop.com and on his freestyle on rap city he gave props and shouted out alot of eastcoast rappers.

Nigga allways claimin hihhop is dead, when journalist like u are reportin on the same shit that some white bitch is reportin on E! makin hiphop look bad.

and my problem is that u have an opinion, cause lord knows i do. but how u gone get on some shit like southern women cant read. that's just fuckin low.

Ol'Fuck ass nigga. u should be reportin for some highschool newspaper, and not poisoning the masses on the internet with this nonsense.

Too Short AND Pimp C are both overrated as rappers and yes I'm from the South and I've said it,WHAT? I've never respected either of those cat's lyrical ability. I know Too Short is from Cali but I don't judge a whole coast by his low lyrical standard. Anyway, for the clown trying to compare Planet Rock FROM 25 YEARS AGO to D4L's Laffy Taffy from LAST YEAR, come on man. These clowns and others are still using the same formula dudes was using way back in the 80's. This is the 21st century, step ya rap game up! As far as Pimp C's statement, it's whatever b/c he's nobody of any relevance outside of the South nor does he have the lyrical credibility to say ANYTHING about any region outside of the South. The lack of lyrics in the game period is ridculous, especially from Southern rappers. I'm not no East Coast d*ck rider, I just prefer lyricism over garbage. It doesn't matter to me where you're from. And let's be honest, most of the Southern MCs that are at the forefront are garbage with the obvious exception of Luda, Outkast, Scarface, Cee-Lo(when he decides to rhyme), and a few others. As for "The Dude" and his comments, I grew up in Florida yet I don't love Trick Daddy or Rick Ross like that. I don't own any Luke CDs. Back in the day, I grew up listening to a lot of the same stuff your average New Yorker listened to (ATCQ, Wu-Tang, Nas, Kane, Ultramagnetic, Biggie, Rakim, EPMD etc) plus a lot of the Southern standards (Outkast, Goodie Mob, Scarface, Geto Boys, etc.)along with that West Coast (2Pac, NWA, Snoop, Ice T, etc.) too. Currently, I feel different MCs from different regions but they all have one thing in common: they all can spit. I get mad when I hear foolishness like "It's Goin Down", "I Know You See It", "Shoulder Lean", & "Chain Hang Low" dominate the airwaves down here.

Whaddupt to my NYC peoples? XBK, I see you taking fire early fam...I got you:

""Y'all stop cryin' mayne, on the east. Y'all been eating for years… We all got grillz in our mouth, now they want grillz in they mouth on the east. I ain't trippin', do your thing. But, don't be crying that hip-hop's dead. If hip-hop's dead, it's y'all fault that hip-hop's dead. So, get your backpack, jump on the train and get your paying gig up and get in the know." — Pimp C on 97.9 The Box"
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I respect Pimp as a legend...and he partially makes a good point with the statement about being dead...but how would it be the east coast's fault? Much of the bullshit nowadays on the radio is from the South. Not hating, but it's the truth. There's very little conscious rappers from that region. Everybody trying to come up with a new dance and some gay ass hook to sell records. Few people actually care about the music.

Since the rise of the South though, dudes on the East Coast started bitin that shit...as a result the whole rap game is fucked....with everybody trying to sound like whoever had the last hit record.

Past that, he's way off base. Reckless already said "grillz" have been over and done to death on the east coast. Fuck you talkin bout Pimp? Wu had them shit in the early 90's...and I doubt they were the first ones. Living in Baltimore, it's an on again, off again type of thing. Been that way for as long as I can remember. Long tees started here too.

If Pimp did his homework, he'd know, all the popular styles originated over here on the East Coast, mainly NYC.

Baggy Jeans? Yea, that's us. Air Force 1's? Us too. (On that note I'm still mad at Nelly for that shit...when his song dropped I couldn't get a pair for like 3 months.) Timberlands? You know it, stop playing. Polo? Yup. Gucci shades, Prada, Cristal....The list goes on and on.

SO if anything, most of the shit yall rockin down south you got from up here.

I said it.

we all kno that southern people r uneducated so y bother these the same people who thinks ok to represent the confederate flag and thinks its jus the history of that state! Pimp C is jus tryna b notice but i must agree that outkast isnt wack but they not the greatest i mean at the end of the day they still listen to the bullshit that the south is puttin out and supportin it i mean they should b helpin the south step it up lyrically DAMN i hate it wen people from downsouth come into the NYC blog and talk shit Fuck 'em

but how u gone get on some shit like southern women cant read. that's just fuckin low.

Posted by: sizzle at September 12, 2006 08:38 AM

Thats the smarter shyt you said all morning keep it up and I might start paying you some attention again.

Cic:

Whats good my dude I gotta co-sign ya entire post is on piont. I swear b4 BET these southern ni99as ain't have no style whatsoever...they should be thanking us everyday for introducing them to fitted hats and jordans. They lucky we ain't charge they illiterate ass tuition fees for fashion class 101 lol Nah but I gots love 4 the south so I'ma quit while I'm ahead its just the gay ass pillow biting ni99as who hate on New York and the east that gets under my skin.

In the infamous worlds of a reggae legend Capleton:

"BURN OUT THE CHI-CHI, BURN DOWN THE CITY"

Aint nobody mad about this except NY. Nobody from the South sends disses at NY, until them NY start it up. First it was Ghostface, you see what happened to him.
This is why NY hip hop is dead...Maino speaks the truth.
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.532

NY niggas need to stop depending on Jay Z (damn near 40), and Nas (a whore for money), P. Diddy (dont get me started), Ruff Ryders (boo boo), Dipset (nobody even takes them serious)....the list goes on and on....

Listen up..Im bout to speak some real shit..yall southern niggas love to talk wreckless like yall just grabbed the rap game and took off with it. That's the farest thing from the truth and yall know that. Down South music=gimmicks, yall niggas have no substance and your music at all. I feel yall niggas are single handedly commercializing the rap game. U ignorant fucks can barely speak let alone rap. Well..yall get the point..fall the fuck back..EAST COAST FOREVER REAL HIP-HOP FOREVER

^^ Oh yeah, I forgot....Busta Rhymes (Mr. Swole Up Gut Man, Beating up people cause my record wont sell)....

Its sad when the hottest thing in NY is "Chicken Noodle Soup"....

LOOK AT DIS STUPID MOTHERFUCKER WHO WROTE DIS BLOG. NIGGA STOP BEIN A FUCKER HATER PIMP C IS TELLING DA TRUTH DEY BE LIKE WE KILLING HIP-HOP. WIN YA'LL SHIT FLOP ITS DA SOUTH FAULT EVERYBODY WANNA HATE ON D4L AND DEM FRANCHIZE BOI'S BUT DEY SELLING.WIN NY RAPPERS CUM OUT YA'LL CNT GET NO FUCKIN PLAY AND OUR SALES ARE WAY BETTER GET OFF OUR DICKS. WE TOOK DA BACK SEAT 4 DA LONGEST YOU CNT FIND 1 THING DA SOUTH SAID WIN WE WASNT GETTING NO PLAY WE NEVER SAID SHIT. WE JUS WAITED OUR TURN AN NOW DAT IT HAS CUM AN NIGGAS ARE REALLY BEING SUM DICKS. IT NOT DA SOUTH FAULT DAT YA'LLL CANT SELL NO RECORDS AND YA'LL HAVE TO GO 2 SELLING MIZTAPES TO MAKE MONEY. I READ RYHME FEST HOLDING HIS DICK TALKING BOUT HIS SALES AND PUTTING IT ON DA D4L AND DA SOUTH. NIGGA NO1 WANNA HEAR DAT SHIT U SAYING GO 2 DA UK WITH DAT SHIT U SPITTING. ANOTHER THING NY RAPPERS YA'LL SUM MIXTAPE RAPPER'S U CNT MAKE SONGS. DA SOUTH WE MAKE DAT FEEL GOOD MUZIK. WE HAVE PPLE WIT LYRICS LIL WAYNE, T.I.,LUDA 8BALL AND MJG B4 DIDDY START FUCKIN WIT DEM WE HAVE LYRICS AND WAYNE WHO FUCKIN WIT WAYNE WORD 4 WORD NOT MANY DAT CAN. YA'LL NIGGAS GET A FUCKIN LIFE. PIMP C BE ICE OUT HOW MANY NY RAPPERS BE DAT WAY DEY PASSIN DEY SHIT FROM NIGGA 2 NIGGA HE EATING AN YALL NOT CUM ON SHAWTY U A STUPID MOTHERFUCKER 4 WRITING DIS CUM 2 DA SOUTH AN SAY WAT U R SAYING NAW WE WOOD BE IN DAT ASS SHAWTY. IIGHT SON WORD 2 MY MOTHER LIKE YALL LIKE 2 SAY BUM ASS NIGGA

Props to Sohh NYC. I'm from the south and I'll be the first to tell you MOST of the stuff they play down here is stratight ass. I'm feeling people like Luda, Lil' Wayne, TI, Outkast, and a few others, but most are just buring garbage.

This shit gotta end, thats slow ABC style is the way of they culture out there, and big time lyricist and fresh metephors and mean bars is our style. We ain't gonna change to they style and they not gonna switch to ours... Let's just agree to disagree on this. It's just two different ways of life. We spit like NFL games, we want every flow to shut down the game, to take the belt with every bar. They wanna celebrate a whole other style of shit, like grills and rims. It's more of a party scene and good weather.... Shit is just different, and bothe styles is whats really good for the game. The same labels sign us all and collect checks. TI, Kanye, and Maino are on the same label... That's ATL, The Chi & Brooklyn, whats the big deal...

(A label like most labels which happens to be in NY)

Posted by: BEE DA SOUTHERN NIGGA at September 12, 2006 09:05 AM

^^^ Huh?

This is getting monotonous. All these dumb ass blocks about who is holding it down, NY or the South. What kills me is you have a whole region(The South) competing against "1" City, NY. This is foolish, All the things going on in the world are our country, and this is what we are arguing about. Who cares. I rep Brooklyn all day everyday. I luv my city but if I don't like a certain song or music, I don't buy or just plain don't listen to it, be it from a NY artist or Dirty South artist. People on hear bitching about people who don't care nuthin about you. Support who you like by buying there stuff and Keep it moving. D@mn. Grow up you simple minded people.

Once and for all and for the last time... Check your sound scan my dudes... All them niggas from the south that you see dancin around doin back flips and jumpin through flamin hoops on videos all over the place aint sellin all that many records so it does make you a little vexed when you told to get a payin gig by a gimmick, the south do have some fire MCs and they been mentioned but don't co-sign all them dudes just like you can't do for every nigga up here. just cause you see all that air play don't mean money and sales... All them niggas ain't CTE, Grand Hustle, Cash Money and DTP. Jewelery ain't that hard to come by so don't be fooled.

Relax Skip. It's not that serious. You responded like you were being personally attacked. "Your album barely moved units." The fact still remains that alot of the East hates on anyone that shines besides them. I agree that Pimp C could have moved more units and that the Grill thing was in New York quite a while before it was big down south but you need to pump your fucking brakes with this blog. As a writer you shouldn't take shit that doesnt directly concern you with such a stern attitude. I could understand the junior high journalism if cat daddy ended his quoute " Oh Yeah & fuck SOHH Reckless." Then my nigga let the dogs of war out. My dude made a good point about that hip hop is dead shit. If New York was the buzz in these streets and on the Radio we wouldn't be hearing that shit. Man your just another crab in the bucket. Pimp C could move 300 units and it's more than you have. Get off his hustle like your clocking more putting these blogs together. You are the sole definition of a Stan. "Pimp C hurt my feelings." Are you a man or a child. Have your mom kiss the booboo for you. Man up and don't attack all the people of the south. That's some coward shit. Your ancestors may have done some cotton picking, or share cropping there. Pay homage to that. I'm a West Coast nigga and I love seeing EVERYBODY get their paper. Shit if I can't get it, you go get it ya dig, but don't be a bitch about shit. They should pull your card for that bullshit you wrote.

@Sizzle
Thanks for your comment and finally someone from the south admits ya'll been jacking our swag for years.

And if you really wanna talk about money homey, a nigga from Brooklyn (Jay-Z is making alotta loot ( yea I know that word is mad old school but I'm bringing it back)off some of your favorite rappers...:)

hahahha TEXAS sitdown!!!!! NYC stand the fuck up

All this shit right after 9/11
good job Reckless.

ya'll getting away from the point....the nigga is shitting on the very coast that created the shit all you wannabe rappers are trying to get into...There WASNT rap until the east coast did it. I dont care how old school it is, WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR STYLE FROM????? Where did you get the whole idea of a rap career from? I love them UGK boys but we wouldnt be talking about them if they aint get on Big pimpin! At least keep it trill! And what east coast niggas are rocking grills? The bottom line is eventhough the south getting money now, you got your whole abilty to rap from east coast rappers....Run DMC is from NY and EVERY nigga in the south was on Kane and rakim's dick. It only took ya'll 25yrs to get hot. Ya'll get in the know!

Another thing most cat's don't consider that laffy taffy bullshit as art. It's just dudes trying to find a niche market so they can exploit it. That shit is garbage but it makes the dames move. Any song that makes the dames want grind on you a little more can't be that bad.

I don't think it's all about competing with NY that got us a little twisted, it's the fact that now that they got some shit poppin aff what "WE" built for all these brothers acroos the world (HIP-HOP), they ice out a couple items and start to talk real greazy to the creators... It feels like somebody bitin the hand that fed 'em. If Herc and them would decided to get "payin gigs" where the fuck would any of us be... And real talk Luda came here to get and got his deal from a NY label, Jeezy did the same, TI is on Atlantic and last time I checked it was on 51st and 6th avenue in the AXA building... So this is the house that keeps a roof over every body heads my dudes, we co-sign. It's not that the other regions should'nt pop off just stop talkin like all of the sudden you did "THIS"... Real Talk. We don't need to bring NY back, it's the CITY THAT NEVER SLEEPS remember...

your just as arrogant as he is! alot of southern music is stupid repetitive bullshit! cars clothes, money and hoes!yet on the same note alot of east coast hip hop is repetitive bullshit! cars, clothes, money, and hoes! and then the music industry wonders why hip hop is loosing so many fans! hip hop is not dead, but it is dying! and why is it that people blame the south for laffy taffy! that shit was a bigger hit in New York than it was in Atlanta! as for your southern women dont know how to read comment lol, i'd say that you just once again proves how ignorant you are...

hip hops not dead, but it sure as hell is dying!

Dam! I can't stand the heat in here today being that I am a lil on the illiterate side. Dam Dude you real Reckless this AM. But I ain't mad at you. You need to make up your mind about what you wanna be mad about:
1) B/c nobody in NY is selling

2) B/c the South is making paper

3) B/c the South can't read or speak

4) The numbers or the content

Dam you are just rainting so I can't really tell what you are pissed about. I can't even defend the south today b/vc grown ass folk no what the deal is. What do numbers mean? Must mean something b/c Meth ain't selling and shit is fiyah - The Roots shit is fiayh also. So if neither of them sell does that mean their music ain't shit. So don't go blaming the South for NY's fuck up and the South won't blame you for our "garbage". And just b/c the shit ain't poppin to you don't mean it's garbage. Shit you better recgonize that in the South way before we had Jay, Nas, TI - we had UGK, 36 Mafia, Outkast,- we had peeps we could embrace but we made room for the EastCoast too. Suck that shit up and wait yo turn. I am a hip hop head everyday of the weak and listen to anything I want to; no matter where it orginated. So if you wanna get iggnant with Pimp C that's on you Reckless but don't disregard the South b/c in that post you sound like a bitch that just lost her man to another man. For my southern education I hope that I articulated that enough for you to understand. Proofread that shit just in case this grown ass woman can write but can't read. Dam this nigga got my blood pressure up this AM. LOL

http://www.myspace.com/mrprez

Man he wasn't dissin he was spittin real tlk, when yall shit there & diss us & say we wacc u dont hear us cryin & bitchin. And ole buddy (Devin the dude) is right it is yall fault fo tha current status of NY rap, yall did sell out fo tha dollar. Niccas mad cause he said some obvious shit about yall, nicca thats sumthin all niccas say about yall outside of NYC!!! How all yall niccas gon worry about what other niccas is doin, while we over hea gettin $ yall sittin over there hatein on us & not gettin $. Now u tell me who's to blame fo that!!! I believe it was yo boy Jigga who buy tha way I fucc wit, said "Males shouldn't be males that a females trait// What u made cause u sell dimes & he sells weight//"

And some1 said da south dont wanna war wit tha east coast. Im a keep it real wit u niccas, yall aint tryin to war wit da south!!! Man we aint gonna sit hea & jaw jacc wit yall bacc & forth. Niccas only gonna say so many words C4 we start smaccin tha shit outta muthafuccas & shootin shit up. Thats why I dont wanna war cause I kno we gon end up fuccin up rappers. And some of tha rappers from down south might whoop yall rappers in NY ass, but them aint tha niccas u gotta worry bout. Its them niccas in tha crowds, when u leave them autograph signins, when u leavein tha club!!! U gotta come down south to perform some time!!! U got to, cause yall dont support each other in NY tufff like that. See we aint necessairly got to go up north to perform. Niccas from tha south can go platnum in tha south ourselves, plus tha midwest & westcoast fucc wit us. U niccas gotta see us, & if u think yall gonna C talkin shit bout tha south & get away wit it, u got shit fucced up!!! Niccas dont play that shit down hea Cuzz!!! On another note, yall always hollerin that yall tha top lyricists anyways, well were was yall lyrics when tha westcoast was diggin in yall asses!!! I member niccas comein into NY & shootin a video kiccin over buildins & makein tha statue of liberty give them head!!! Pac dugg all into YALL GREATEST RAPPER OF ALL TIMES ASS(Biggie). Yea them facts yall dont like to discuss huh!!! But wit all that said, I got ;love fo some NY niccas, not all of them are assholes like 90% o yall on this board. Real Recognize real homie. like I said earlier, yall real artist in NY recognized that they had to broaden they're horizons & started fucc wit niccas in tha south & errywhere else : jigga, Jadakiss, busta, tha list goes on. And its funny cause u never hear them hollerin that "South fucced up rap shit"

To all my homies what up this AM.

I gotta sit this one out b/c I know it will get real stupid in here real fast.

So to all my NYC sweeties. I will catch you later.

XBK: I see you baby!

Cic: What up homie?

I will check back when my blood pressure goes down.

Yo Real talk If yall niggas were really running this shit, then why would yall care if we respect yall shit or not? I mean its sounds like you guys are craving for our respect. I mean if anything son all that does is renforce what we already know..yall niggas look up too us..and that has nothing to do with our posistion on the map neither....NYC...stand up...hahahahaha

I gotta agree with "Hip Hop isnt dead but it IS dying". Fans are fading away becoming uninterested and the music is getting cheesier. Sales are doing horrible no matter how far the gimmicks go and elton john, k-fed, snappers, Chicken noodle Soupers, and van wearers now want to "rap". Now everybody thinks they can be a rapper cause "its just that easy" since talent is hardly the case anymore. Next thing you know niggas gonna wanna attack the underground...and a lot of underground shit sucks too...or more like local shit. This shows that money really doesnt make the world go round all the time...at least not in this case. In this case, money is fucking a lot of shit up.

Shout to KSH...be easy ma (passes the inhaler)

to all dumb ass south niggaz

yall talking mad shit on here....but shut the fuck up

pimp c get the fuck outta here.....if it wasnt for hova (a new york nigga) ugk would still be underground doing nothing in the mainstream...only listened to in texas

trying to play the east when jay z propelled your fuckin career

and ima put this next comment in caps

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW HARD IT IS FOR INTELLECT TO HATE ON AN IDIOT.....THIS IDIOT ASS NIGGA CALLING NY HATERS.....WE ARE HATERS.....OF DUMB RAP MUSIC.......NEW YORK HATE DUMB RAP MUSIC!

HE FINALLY STARTED THE LONG AWAITED EAST SOUTH WAR

Pimp C never been the smartest cat.
This the same nigga that didn't want to get on "Big Pimpin"! and who the fuck would he be then. Broke Pimo C. Bun B even said he thought Pimp C was crazy and he had to convince the nigga to get on a song with Jay-Z, who was and is doing really well.

Check out that "Dorchester Univercity" the first album from Intellectual Wizardry aka I.W. KREW

Only available at
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I don't think it's all about competing with NY that got us a little twisted, it's the fact that now that they got some shit poppin aff what "WE" built for all these brothers acroos the world (HIP-HOP), they ice out a couple items and start to talk real greazy to the creators... It feels like somebody bitin the hand that fed 'em. If Herc and them would decided to get "payin gigs" where the fuck would any of us be... And real talk Luda came here to get and got his deal from a NY label, Jeezy did the same, TI is on Atlantic and last time I checked it was on 51st and 6th avenue in the AXA building... So this is the house that keeps a roof over every body heads my dudes, we co-sign. It's not that the other regions should'nt pop off just stop talkin like all of the sudden you did "THIS"... Real Talk. We don't need to bring NY back, it's the CITY THAT NEVER SLEEPS remember...

I don't think niggas is mad about anybody makin paper it's the fact that that makes niggas decide to turn around and talk shitty... And I don't here no rappers becides maybe ghost and a small few sayin anything, on most scales the rappers be chillin wit each other Jay co-signs all the big timers down there I know Dipset fuck wit niggas, Fat Joe stay in MIA... So whos been doin all this cryin niggas keep talkin about he need to name names but he won't... Snoop dog co-sign Tru Life, 50 is fam wit Young Buck... and signed Scrappy... Mobb Deep did joints wit Lil John... WHO IS DOIN ALL THIS FUCKIN CRYIN Y'ALL KEEP TALKIN ABOUT THATS WHY NIGGAS IS MAD CAUSE YOU KEEP SAYIN IT... When buss did on my NY Shit, who did he diss, last time I check Jeezy and Juelz and Weezy work together so whos the fuck keeps dissin THE SOUTH. This originated from y'all not us. WE DON't care... This Conversation is about that dudes ignorant comments thats all big up to the south but be the fuck easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.myspace.com/mrprez

PIMP C SPOKE THE TRUTH!!!! IF NEW YORKERS DIDNT HATE SO MUCH THEN THIS WHOL EAST VS SOUTH WOULDNT EVEN START.

YOU NY NIGGAZ BRING THIS SHIT ON YOURSELF. SAME THING WITH THE EAST VS WEST SHIT!

PIMP C SPOKE THE TRUTH!! AND THE TRUTH HURTS!!

YO BEE DA SOUTHERN NIGGA
You dumb bitch you ont kno wat da fuck you talkin but jus yappin jus like da south an chicken noodle soup is like da first song outta ny dat garbage an its still hotter den dat bullshit laffy taffy

Game said it best "TURN ON YA TV AN ALL YOU SEE IS DA A YOU NIGGAS BETTA MAKE UP A DANCE TA TRY TA GET RADIO PLAY KEEP ON SNAPPIN YA FINGAS I AINT GOIN AWAY I ONT REGRET WAT I SPIT CUS I KNO WAT I SAY"

iTS TRUE LET PIMP TRY TA MAKE A ALBUM DAT DONT INVOLE "SWANGAS" OR "LACS" OR "BOWS" OR YO GRILLZ

BOTTOM LINE IS DA SOUTH RUINED DA GAME PIMP C MESSED UP MISSEZ LOVE SONG AN BIG PIMPIN LOL FUCK DA SOUTH GET YA LYRICS UP

Im Cosignin NYGIANT right now... We don't even think about y'all business until a nigga come out his face like that... And I had a high respect for Pimp cause he been doin his thing for a minute now...

http://www.myspace.com/mrprez

Jay Z is all NY talk about, their only leg to stand on....when that is kicked out, what will you have then?
NAME SOMEBODY ELSE BESIDES JAY Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KSH:

Whats good mami???And yeah ya post is on point and grammatically correct(lol yes I've proof read)

And as soon as I thought Reckless changed the game and flip the script he pulls a North vs. South fuck up. Damn B. u really set ya shyt back a couple of weeks. Oh well I guess once a fuck up always a fuck up no matter how much progress they show.

@ Mr.Prez

u got it twisted. ALL those rappers u mentioned signed to NY labels allready had buzz in the south and cds and mixtapes under their belts. They were recruited and signed by whomever is charge of finding talent for those companies, which probly is a NY'er. Even Young Joc's "Goin Down" was allready poppin off in the ATL before Diddy jumped on the banwagon.

And who said tha eastcoast started grolls/fronts, LMAO!!! Thats some bullshit like sayin bush is fo nuccas. Grillz been down south u diccheads, after slavery days niccas had grillz. Look up some of yall great great grandmothers from tha south, u can see that plain as day. So shut tha fucc up, we aint bite shit from NY!!! And then niccas wanna say we got rap from NY, well guess what, rap comes from Blues & southern gospels, guess where that comes form DOWN SOUF!!! But u dont see us throwin that all up in yall face, it is what it is. U NY niccas is some funny style characters cuzz, biggest dicc riders in tha world. 1st u diss LA bacc in tha eastcoast/westcoast beef, sayin gangbangin was stupid, now all of a sudden tha last few years u niccas is Crips & slobKs LMAO!!! Fool yall have no ties to tha westcoast so none of tha OGs could've came out there & started any sets wit yall. plus them cali niccas kno yall aint bangin fo real!!! Then yo faggot niccas dipset steal our shit from H-town, Sizzurp, & try to use it fo they own shit to make a liquor. get tha fucc outta hea!!! Not to mention them bitch niccas is usein down south beats & even talkin like us LMAO!!! Now yall gotta a chiccen noodle soup dance, Nicca yall need to go lookin fo tha nicca who stole NYC's identity!!!

RED Im pretty sure they're mentioning Jayz cause they probably didnt know who the hell Pimp C was before Jay put him on that joint...i mean damn...hello, its mad obvious

@Nawfisde4Lyfe (H-town)

I know you might be frustrated with the conversation but that was wild ignorant and don't really have no place here... Talkin about smackin, and shoot niggas on the internet sound silly and thats what gives the south some of that bad rap... That was just un called for, but we forgive, now you can forgive yourself homie... One

AGAIN TO THESE SOUTHERN IDIOTS

STOP COMPARING CHICKEN NOODLE SOUP TO LAFFY TAFFY

MAJOR DIFFERENCE

LAFFY TAFFY GROUP MEMBERS AGES 21-25 PROBABLY

CHICKEN NOODLE SOUP MEMBER AGE 16-18

MY POINT IS THAT SOUTHERN GROWN MEN ARE SO STUPID, THEIR MUSIC IS ONLY APPRECIATED BY 10 - 17 YEAR OLDS

YOUNG B'S AGE ACTUALLY FITS THE CROWD SHE IS ATTRACTING

SO REVERSE WHAT YALL DUMB ASSES IS SAYIN.....AND CHICKEN NOODLE IS WAY HOTTER THAN LAFFY TAFFY!

Shut the fuck up with the grills shit Nawfside4lyfe(H-town). Let the shit go and you seem a little confused. I see you using eastcoast slang and westcoast slang but hardly any houston slang...........not that thats bad but if anyone has an identity crisis...in advance for dumbasses who are gonna mention ugly ass, old ass, "grills/fronts" STFU.

one thing:dont ever call pimp C or UGK wack
another thing:you say jay is the only leg newyork standing on well that leg aint never getting kicked out so what you talkin about

Big homies out of retirement.
pressure.

do yall know who James Brown,George Clinton,or dolamite is? these dudes started rapping years before NY. Read a little!

Man listen i live in the south but i bump more east coast shit!!! The south is doin their thing right now, yall NY niggaz is hatin too much and at the same time yall trappin with grillz and shit and that some south shit!!!!

you know whats pretty crony? you guys actually have nothing else better to do the cry over something that non yall own. Who in here is Kool Herc? Is anybody in here GrandMaster Flash? cause last I heard those were the two Gods that actually created this Hip Hop thing that we all love so much. To be even more real you guys are up in the motherfucking morning talking about people that many you havn't even met before and chances are you never will...Good Morning.

I Fucks wit the East I fucks wit the South and I fucks wit the West. Now in the rap game u have Bullshit rap it as pass Bubble Gum status in the places I just named including the Mid west but to much Bullshit Rap is coming from the south and this is not hate my family comes from the south but I got to keep it all the way One Hundred u feel me. See I stay in the Mid West an I would Rather have Lupe rep the Mid West than Chingy because in the mid west Lupe makes niggas step there game up and Chingy just makes niggas throw up u know what I am sayin.

first of all lets not argue album sales cause the south is killing soundscan and if it wasnt for burnt cd's it would be alot worse. you can't blame dat nigga for saying what he did. I havent heard one hint of love come out of niggas mouths from the east and just because hiphop started there you think we suppose to sit around and take everything yall say about us (hiphop is dead). that's a slap in the face of the south. if hiphop is dead it started when krs one did them sprite commercials, diddy wore the shiny suits, meth and red did deodarant commercials and 50 made candy shop. IN THE EARLY AND MID 90'S NIGGAS FROM THE SOUTH SUPPORTED EVERY COAST WEST AND EAST. 96 SOURCE AWARDS NIGGAS HATED WHEN OUTKAST WON(LAUGH NOW) WE DIAMOND. if d4l aint hiphop then dont call that wack ass harlem shake or chicken noodle soup with a soda on the side hiphop. lol you dick rode the south's wackest music on that shit by the way. as long as lil wayne, ti, scarface, jeezy, clipse, outkast, luda, and a whole gang of others keep banging out hits (that are full of content and still sell records) yall can continue to hate but dont think we gonna stand by and let the shit happen without saying ne thing. THE TRUTH HURTS SO BAD.IF U WANNA TALK ALBUM SALES LETS GO NAME FOR NAME CAUSE THATs the only thing that matters in the rap game.

"If you aint in the rap game fo the mothafucking cash man then what is yo motherfucking?"

BOTTOMLINE
NY GET ON YO SHIT AND STOP HATING. WE HAD LOVE FOR YALL IN THE EARLY 90'S WHEN YALL WERE ON TOP WHY CAN'T YALL DO THE SAME FOR US. WE GOT MAD RESPECT FO CATS THAT WAS DOING THEY THING IN NY. ALL WE WANT IS THE SAME RESPECT. IF YOU CANT DO THAT THEN FUCK YA WE GONNA SELL REGARDLESS.

Damn fam, dude was clearly just trying to put some ish out there to create a buzz cause quite frankly outside of the South he needs one bad. I don't even know who Pimp C is outside of the fact that he's been rapping for a long time and I "Don't know who he is" LOL. But seriously, Fanstasia aint diss nobody man leave her alone LMFAO...

@ Sizzle

I do know that I was just sayin that at the end of the day this is the stove on which the food is cooked for the masses at the end of the day. No hate just sayin that this is the epicenter... The edn result of any of this... I know they was poppin off before they got here... I been followin TIP for years as well as Jeezy... They are definite welcomed and power addition to Hip Hop that keep the game raw and meaningful. See I just like good music. Its them Coonin-N-Bafoonin lookin joints that as a black man and an artist make me feel embarassed... Even Harlems own "Chicken Noodle Soup" dont get me wrong I don't get on here with hate... We got enough of that goin around...

http://www.myspace.com/mrprez

STOP COMPARING CHICKEN NOODLE SOUP TO LAFFY TAFFY

MAJOR DIFFERENCE

LAFFY TAFFY GROUP MEMBERS AGES 21-25 PROBABLY

CHICKEN NOODLE SOUP MEMBER AGE 16-18

MY POINT IS THAT SOUTHERN GROWN MEN ARE SO STUPID, THEIR MUSIC IS ONLY APPRECIATED BY 10 - 17 YEAR OLDS

YOUNG B'S AGE ACTUALLY FITS THE CROWD SHE IS ATTRACTING

Posted by: WIT A SODA ON THE SIDE at September 12, 2006 09:48 AM

I'm Co-Signing!

What's up to the regulars.

@KSH(blushing)good morning! Go take an advil to clear your head. It's all good up in here.

I can't stay long so this shit has to jump off topic quickly. Reckless has invited every stan on Sohh up in this piece. I understand that you're upset Reckless, but why monopolize our little area by opening this shit up. The south has their lane. I don't do the laffy/taffy, snap or anything that dumbs down my ability to rewind a track. I will play Kast, TI, Wayne and Luda along with many other southern rappers. Hell, my favorite track right now is "Duck Down" with Trick Daddy and BIG. As far as Pimp C goes, he's just some nigga trying to start some shit for press.

One question that I know you won't answer:

Is it really about sales? Honestly. Based on some of your previous topics, I know you don't feel like it is.

Peace to Cic, XBX, Bigup, Banga, Huey, Disrespect, slimgoody, rocky, naj, Chevy G, HtownMike, Dana

Cic: Yea I needed that (Inhaler)! LOL

XBK: I get his point about Pimp C and can understand the beef with Pimp C but dam why you gotta go the south is dumb and all that shit. I don't get it. But that is his opinion and I ain't mad about that. But it don't have to be articualted "bitch like" against the South.

But I am cool now. So I will sit back and laugh it out til after lunch.

I see it's a lot of ignorance on the blog this morning. This shit is dumb.

I see some New York niggaz saying niggaz down South is dumb. And that New York introduced us to Jordans and Air Force 1s. They saying that niggaz down South don't know how to read. You can't be for real.

I see down South niggaz disrespecting KRS One and the pioneers. Niggaz is saying "New York dead". What type of niggaz are y'all?

I AM CONVINCED THAT NONE OF Y'ALL NIGGAZ GOT RESPECT FOR THE GAME.

@ Mr.Prez

Yall been thinkin bout us ever since yall fell off. Thats when the "hiphop is dead" movement started. but down south, we just forgot about yall and didn't even notice how wack yall got. Yall artists was the first to talk down on the south, but when someone finally addresses the situation yall want to make it look like we just bombed yall pearl harbor. Truth be told, im sure alot of southern rappers feel the same way, Luda even said it subliminaly in a couple interviews. Pimp C gets alot of respect in the industry cause people trust in what he ssys. So he aint sayin no lies. We respect our legends.

New York dont give a fuck about KRS-1 and Rakim

@ Mr. Prez

NY starts the "greezy" talk "son." Even before the South became mainstream. You NYC niggaz always hated the South. I understand where your coming from and shit. But dont say we started this hate shit. We were content with making music just for the South until Corporate America caught onto it and wanted their piece of the pie. Now finally the South is on top and you niggaz cant stand it.

The reason Pimp C came off like that, is because he's tired (like most Southerners) of you NYC niggaz talkin shit!! This NORTH vs SOUTH been bubbling for a while now. And it always starts with a NYC nigga poppin off at the mouth about a culture he doesnt know or understand.

Real Talk, "Son"

@ Mr.Prez

Yall been thinkin bout us ever since yall fell off. Thats when the "hiphop is dead" movement started. but down south, we just forgot about yall and didn't even notice how wack yall got. Yall artists was the first to talk down on the south, but when someone finally addresses the situation yall want to make it look like we just bombed yall pearl harbor. Truth be told, im sure alot of southern rappers feel the same way, Luda even said it subliminaly in a couple interviews. Pimp C gets alot of respect in the industry cause people trust in what he ssys. So he aint sayin no lies. We respect our legends.

New York dont give a fuck about KRS-1 and Rakim

EFrazier:(smiling) Baby you are my advil. I think my headache just left.

I am cool. I am just tripping b/c Reckless had to go to the "grown ass women don't how to read" like all of NYC is literate.

That is real bitchmade.

@Nawfside

Hip Hop came when NY DJ's who threw block parties started to have niggas host or they would shout shit out over records they was playin... and then Grandmaster started to cut records back to make break beats... The blues was the blues and you got that but it would have stayed that way if it wasn't for Herc and them...

theres bullshit music coming from everywhere but if you honestly believe that most of the bullshit ISNT coming from the south then you're in denial.I like eastcoast(north)/westcoast/midwest, eastcoast (south), and gulf coast(south) rap but a fact is a fact

I've adopted a few new rules of engagement when it comes to this blog shit...so normally I won't reply to dumbasses unless they have a valid arugment BUT in this case I feel the need to pop some balloons.

@ATL Red

The fuck are you talking about? Jay-Z is NY's only leg to stand on? I'll spare you the details...BUT...do the knowledge...if you think Jay is all NY has you don't know shit about rap.

Period.

@Nawfside4Lyfe(H-town)

If you wanna get real technical with it, "grillz" go all the way back to Africa...so do chains, bracelets, conrows...shit, I'm sure we even rimmed a couple carriages too.

About the music...every form influences another, like above...this is a dumb ass argument because it's not like music itself started in the South. Jazz/Blues etc was influenced by something else, no doubt from another region.

That gang shit? There's Bloods & Crips everywhere, even the South, so what's your point? By your own logic YOU NIGGAS are biting the West. Fuck outta here.

About the Dips...you're only valid point, good for you. Don't mistake them niggas as representatives of the entire East Coast. THEY bit that shit.

That "chicken noodle soup" is wack...but it isn't like snap dancing is much better.

Chevy G: I feel you on that. The shit is silly and for Reckless to be so reckless and say that shit is real iggnant - (yes nicca I know it's ignorant but you deserve the southern version) IGGNANT- that stupid shit don't deserve the correct spelling.

****inhale; exhale; inhale; exhale****

Pimp C is right about us being the reason hip hop is dead but he sounds like an idiot when he says that we wanna wear grillz... niggaz been past that for like 10 years already. We called em fronts. Nextg they gonna be rocking 3 and 4 finger rings and claim that shit too. Who created what is a bit overboard because it was all created in the name of hip hop so it shouldn't matter. A "veteran" should know better to set some dumb shit off like that. But I am a NYC dude and I agree that we are part of the reason why "hip hop is dead" (i don't believe that shit). I think we had absolute control in the late 90's going into the new millenium when dudes like Jay Z,Ja Rule,DMX,Nas,Meth Red etc were all cool with each other and it produced what I would call the "Platinum Age" of hip hop ( in direct relevance to the "Golden Age" in the late 80's with Kane,Kool G,Rakim etc). Niggaz was doing it together. Ruff Ryders, RockaFella and Murder Inc were at the top of the Hip Hop game and all eyes were on NYC when it came to hip hop. But like anything else, it was too much. Niggaz got tired of the same rhetoric being spit and NYC artist got in a comfort zone. Once dudes like Luda and Nelly and Trick Daddy 3-6 Mafia etc got radio attention, the draw was just enough to turen the attention to other region. Record companies started to look elsewhere other than NYC for artist because the originality soured with so many NYC cats "trying" to rap because of the money involved. Computer technology and the growth of the internet made hip hop more accesible to those not in the NY scene. Cats in Oklahoma could produce music in their basements with the same quality sound of the $500-$1000 p/hr studios in NYC. All of a sudden record companies realized their was loads of talent elsewhere than NY and the hip hop influence spread to places that were always hip hop hotbeds such as ATL. Cats started going outta state because it was and still is too saturated in NYC. NYC inabilty to change with the times is what led to the drop off but it is what it is and its not the end of the world. We got it back from the west after the fall of Death Row and it will come back again only to return to the south later on. Its a cycle that always seems to find its way back.

Pimp C is right about us being the reason hip hop is dead but he sounds like an idiot when he says that we wanna wear grillz... niggaz been past that for like 10 years already. We called em fronts. Nextg they gonna be rocking 3 and 4 finger rings and claim that shit too. Who created what is a bit overboard because it was all created in the name of hip hop so it shouldn't matter. A "veteran" should know better to set some dumb shit off like that. But I am a NYC dude and I agree that we are part of the reason why "hip hop is dead" (i don't believe that shit). I think we had absolute control in the late 90's going into the new millenium when dudes like Jay Z,Ja Rule,DMX,Nas,Meth Red etc were all cool with each other and it produced what I would call the "Platinum Age" of hip hop ( in direct relevance to the "Golden Age" in the late 80's with Kane,Kool G,Rakim etc). Niggaz was doing it together. Ruff Ryders, RockaFella and Murder Inc were at the top of the Hip Hop game and all eyes were on NYC when it came to hip hop. But like anything else, it was too much. Niggaz got tired of the same rhetoric being spit and NYC artist got in a comfort zone. Once dudes like Luda and Nelly and Trick Daddy 3-6 Mafia etc got radio attention, the draw was just enough to turen the attention to other region. Record companies started to look elsewhere other than NYC for artist because the originality soured with so many NYC cats "trying" to rap because of the money involved. Computer technology and the growth of the internet made hip hop more accesible to those not in the NY scene. Cats in Oklahoma could produce music in their basements with the same quality sound of the $500-$1000 p/hr studios in NYC. All of a sudden record companies realized their was loads of talent elsewhere than NY and the hip hop influence spread to places that were always hip hop hotbeds such as ATL. Cats started going outta state because it was and still is too saturated in NYC. NYC inabilty to change with the times is what led to the drop off but it is what it is and its not the end of the world. We got it back from the west after the fall of Death Row and it will come back again only to return to the south later on. Its a cycle that always seems to find its way back.

Prez whats poppin? Son you hear these lames niggas?? I got love for the South, I ain't trying to get on some civil war shit. All I'm saying dont bite the hand that feeds you! Who the fuck outside of Texas knew who UGK was before Big Pimpin drop? Who out side of altlanta Heard about Young Jeezy before fab him on do the damn thing? Keep it real my dude. shit like Nas said you been on my dick for years, you love my style...hahahahaha NYC GoodMorning

Put any of this weck ass NY rappers against King koopa and see what happens sayin the south aint got no lyricsts u stupid.

@Teflon

Jadakiss.

You're done.

Nawfside4Lyfe(H-town

SOMEBODY SHOOT THIS BLOG CLOWN....PLEASE!

AND YOU WRITING THESE LONG PARAGRAPHS SAYING NOTHING YOU DUMB ASS SOUTHERN NIGGA

I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHO WAS WEARING GRILLS IN THE SOUTH (I DONT CARE IF YOUR GRANDMA WAS)......NEW YORK CITY IS THE FOREFATHER OF THAT SHIT.....SLICK RICK MOTHERFUCKAS!

AND STOP TELLING NY NIGGAZ THAT OUR FAM IS FROM THE SOUTH.....WE KNOW DAT.....MLK WAS FROM THE SOUTH TOO.....SO WE GOT MUCH LOVE FOR THE REAL SOUTH......WE JUST HATE SOUTHERN ATTEMPTS AT RAP MUSIC!

NY STOLE THIS AND THAT.............ARE YOU A BLIND IDIOT OR IGNORANCE IS BLISS I GUESS......YOU MUST FAIL TO REALIZE THAT YOUR HICK STATE RAPS NOW.....NIGGA DATS A NEW YORK WAY OF LIFE....WHICH IS WHY THE SOUTH OR THE WEST WILL NEVER DO IT BETTER THAN US

AND RAPS ROOTS COME MORE FROM JAMAICAN INFLUENCE THAN SOUTHERN.....KOOL HERC CAME FROM JAMAICA.....THIS IS WHY DANCEHALL LYRICS ( BEENIE, BOUNTY, CHAM) ARE SO MUCH MORE INTELLIGENT THAN SOUTHERN SHIT.......AND THEY MORE SOUTH THAN YALL!

AND ONLY A DUMMY COULD HATE LYRICS AND LOVE BEATS! TO PUT WORDS TOGETHER AND MAKE SENSE OF IT IS FUN FOR AN INTELLIGENT MIND........OBVIOUSLY ITS TOO HARD FOR A SOUTHERN NIGGA TO DO!

NYC STAND UP

I tried to stay outta of this but who is selling in the South? Yall greatest group of all time just flopped(outkast)...Pimp C sure as hell aint never gonna sell...that nigga couldn't go gold if gold was 250,000...And even if sales don't matter, he wack as all hell and can't rap his way out of wet paper bag...I got a little niece who's six that would tear his ass up!

And reckless can bring up sales when that's what Pimp C is using to make his arguement that the East aint popping right now...You know he cant argue quality of music cause we know how that would go...Busta's CD was better than everything released out of the south this year and so was The roots 'Game theory'...

the south aint making no damn paper so stop saying that dumb shit...In the last 6 months every southern artist that dropped has flopped including Outkast and Pimp C!...The only one the didn't was Joc and all he did was gold...Hip Hop has been in a sales slump but its about to come out of it in November...Hip Hop will be back on the map with the release of SP ' Time is Money' JayZ, Nas and Game...

Shout out to Busta, Ice Cube, Lupe and the Roots for starting the momentum shift of the music back to real hip hop...

One

Whats up to everybody, too many of yall to name and I dont wanna get no hate mail when I forget somebody, LOL.

Wow, yall worked up like a muhfucka this morning, LOL.

I dont do the North vs South shit cause like someone above said, when people say "North" they really mean NY. In my mind, if you feel one city is relevant enough to take on a whole region, what is there to debate? LOL

But I dont put all southern rap in the toilet, some southern stuff is on point. But Im sure everybody knows who is being referred to when the wack shit is mentioned. And from what I understand, even niggas in the south aint feelin that shit.

nelly murdered KRS one in a battle!-FACT.haha.dirty south stand up!

Posted by: jack at September 12, 2006 06:34 AM

That's the dumbest shit I ever heard. Nelly can't even comprehend the power of a real lyricist. Just like Saigon said. "My gun is like Nelly it stay's on some pop shit"

Look can we just kill this convo, cause at the end of the day all were goin do is agree to disagree. But the one thing the we all can agree on is..Hip Hop is a New York Thing...We started it and until yall niggas make your own thing than yall can claim shit. Until then You guys are just renting here and were the Land Lords.

aight I'm goin go make me some grits I'm starving.

1

This nigga did not just diss UGK?

I hope Bun B gets on the blog and airs yours ass out like he did ol Crawford over at XXL.

Cuz you need a talkin to.

Bet you wouldn't respond either.

Teflon_don

PAPOOSE KILLED CHAMILLIONAIRE ON THAT RIDIN DIRTY REMIX....YOU COCKSUCKA!

Its so funny to me when niggaz say the MEDIA started the east -west beef of years back when I read some of these retarded and disrespectful posts. THere is bad music from up north just as much as there is bad music in the south. Yall have your Scarfaces,Outkasts,T.I. Luda and we have our Jay Z, Nas, 50, Jada etc...
We've had our Dipsets ( I really can't think of another NYC artist to compare to D4L or DFB) and yall have your DFB and D4L. We have Puffy and yall got Baby from Cash money. For any wack MC in NYC there is a southern one to match so I don't understand what this is all about. Its just niggaz showing their "dicksize" due to pride of not being on top/not getting credit. Hip Hop would be the most lucrative music genre if this slave ship bullshit would stop. All these niggas can eat if they stop breaking plates but instead dudes wanna hate and stop the next dude from making that cake.

Shout out to Busta, Ice Cube, Lupe and the Roots for starting the momentum shift of the music back to real hip hop...

One

Posted by: Black Friday at September 12, 2006 10:06 AM

I gotta co-sign that this shyt is slowly coming back to the real all you bubble gum teen bopping lovers can suck a dick and die!

FUCK YA REGION I'M TRYNA HEAR WHAT YOU SPEAKIN'

Hmmm...it had been a minute since the NYC blog was really the fight club, so I guess it was only a matter of time.

For those of you not familiar, here's what happens (I'll list it to make it easier for the slow pokes).

Reckless makes a general ass statement regarding all Southern rap.

Some ignorant fuck from the south will tell us that the south is on top and the North (which as Dig pointed out consists of more than NYC) is just hating.

Followed by someone from NY who'll say we started this shit

Followed by somebody who'll say "we have more platinum than you do"

Followed by someone who'll say South niggas are slow and aren't lyrical

Followed by someone who says all you NY niggas talk about is coke and guns

someone will mention Laffy Taffy

Sprinkled in there will be clear minded individuals who just say this shit is stupid, we're all black folk, South is on top now but things change...yada yada yada...

LATHER RINSE REPEAT...

If your ever confused, please refer to this entry to get you caught up. Thank You.

I got a question:

How come when your "favorite" artists flop number-wise, it's "soundscan don't matter"?

I see Black Friday and a couple other niggaz saying that Outkast and Pimp C didn't put up numbers. But when Ghostface came out earlier this year, and didn't put up numbers, it was "soundscan don't matter". Niggaz is walking contradictions. Young Joc is garbage. He went gold. So is Busta Rhymes the equivalent of Young Joc. Hell, they both went gold, no? Is 50 Cent the best rapper cause he went platinum? Is Young Jeezy the future of rap cause he went platinum?

And all these niggaz talking bout "wait til November", what happens if Nas and Jay-Z doesn't put up big numbers? For Nas' album, it's quite possible, he may struggle to go gold.

Then what?

Pull your skirts down.

The South erry day all day cuz....fuck what you done heard.....it's the south bitch!!!!!!!

The South erry day all day cuz....fuck what you done heard.....it's the south bitch!!!!!!!

To SOHH Reckless & the rest of the crabs in the bucket:

WOW!!! I had to read Pimp C's statement again after reading this BS blog because he had to say something about your mother or something for you to get that upset. It's amazing to see how much hate the south is getting for doing what they are supposed to do and that is to make money. The thing that a lot of these southern artist have taken hold of is the fact that the rap game is a hustle. So they went out and did what a man is supposed to do, they stepped their hustle game up. If they offering to pay money for you to get out there and rap about laffy taffy, bubble gum or whatever the case may be some people feel like that is money that they have to take. In the south you have real men that are willing to man up and do what they have to in order to feed their families.
These are intelligent men at the head of these southern labels. They went out and created their own lane so that they will be able to feed their families. Step out of your crab in the bucket mentalities and step your man game up. There is money out there for everybody stop being SOHH Reckless and get up, get out and get something...

Look can we just kill this convo, cause at the end of the day all were goin do is agree to disagree. But the one thing the we all can agree on is..Hip Hop is a New York Thing...We started it and until yall niggas make your own thing than yall can claim shit. Until then You guys are just renting here and were the Land Lords.

YO NYGIANT YOU JUST SAID IT MY NIGGA CLEAR AS DAY! I CAN TELL THE TRUTH HURTS THE SOUTH

Oh now niccas quite huh, putt'em on blast they shut tha fucc up!!! And sad thang is I dont even wanna hate on yall niccas, cause its niccas from NYC I fucc wit: Jigga, D-blocc, Busta, Mos Def. Niccas that actually say sumthin, Nas do to but I cant rocc wit cuzz. It aint us hatein or talkin greasy, its yall startin shit. We neva said shit when we were forced to listen 2 yall music down south, & yall aint have to play ours. We took it in stride, kept grindin & took our spot since niccas aint wanna give us 1. Real tlk respect is earned not givein, so when u tlk crazy to us dont think we'll sit bacc & let it ride. Yall been lookin at us like were inferior tp yall fo to long, miss me wit that rapshit!!!

Tell 'em Chevy.

Preach.

Posted by: naj. at September 12, 2006 10:16 AM

LMAO - That has to be the funniest shyt I've read all day

@ Every dude that thought it was cool to snap back at me...

Fuck my positive approach, feel this, Hip Hop is dead because when you turn on the TV all you see is some dude flippin around the screen like the muppets, the damn videos look like spoofs, I don't know weather I got 106&Park or mad TV... The air play is only there because "KIDS" have the time to vote for these videos and ABC songs that "KIDS" can understand. We say hip hop is dead because the age of the real rapper is over. I get embarassed when I think about the whole world laughin at us doin this simple anything for a buck ass music, it's the negative perception we get due to the low level of real creativity and intelligence shown in the music that gets thru. Corporate america don't love y'all cuase you dope, they love y'all cause all they have to do is slap rims on something and ice out a thing or two and you'll do what ever type of sambo shit they want. We are "NOT" poppin mediawse in NY right now, that is a dead fact... But thats because we don't swing from the trapease for a check, ya dig! Don't come at it's not appreciated at all. If one portion of rock and roll cats started poppin up in videos with colorful kids instruments and signin nursery rhymes the cats that write songs and use grown up instruments they would have the same issues facts is facts. We over here not settltin for half ass verses and hooks are for kids joints... We to busy taken the real "paying gigs" at these labels.

I didn't want to get into a pissin contest with dudes cause that don't help but if gettin ignorant for no reason is all people understand then let's get it to pop!

You deserve a bashing for this one.
Those last two paragraphs are crazier than Pimp's

Its sad when the hottest thing in NY is "Chicken Noodle Soup"....

Posted by: ATL RED at September 12, 2006 08:58 AM

That's just called dickriding the south. This would of never happened if it wasn't for the south nursery rhymes. Let's not even talk about the other blog on here which is now a peanut butter jelly song from ATL. So the dickriding continues.

Check out that "Dorchester Univercity" the first album from Intellectual Wizardry aka I.W. KREW

Only available at
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Posted by: Southern Star at September 12, 2006 10:17 AM

total cosign...
Its funny because the midwest niggaz (Eminem,Twista,Kanye,Lupe,Bump J,Ray Cash, Nelly) are eating while the north and south are beefing.

Damn, wading thru this shit is like trying to get thru Chicago traffic at 3pm.

Look, Reckless must be on some quota shit.

Posted by: naj. at September 12, 2006 10:16 AM

co-sign this post

I also co-sign the shit about real hip hop coming back this year. I want quality. I don't care if it comes from south, north, east or west.

Someone change the topic because I think this is the most ignorant shit I've ever seen. We should have a rule that if you can't spell or punctuate a sentence, you can't post. I'm skipping a lot of these because I can't believe the lack of basic english comprehension I'm seeing here.

If you want to make a coherent thought in NYC, although the blog master ignored the basic principles and got off onto a wasteful rant, please at least make it understandable.

@KSH, don't forget to drink me down with cold water. It's so refreshing!

Shout out to Busta, Ice Cube, Lupe and the Roots for starting the momentum shift of the music back to real hip hop...

One

Posted by: Black Friday at September 12, 2006 10:06 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^
Busta flopped, and the Roots are good but they aint get no promo from they NY label so they gonna fall off the charts too. and none of them other niggas from NY so, yall still fucked. Sorry (;_;)

Jay Z is all NY talk about, their only leg to stand on....when that is kicked out, what will you have then?
NAME SOMEBODY ELSE BESIDES JAY Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: ATL RED at September 12, 2006 09:43 AM

None of our new artist can get on cause all corporate america wants to dick ride the south but when they do watch out cause the laffy taffy era will end.

PAPOOSE, SAIGON, JOEL ORTIZ, MANIO, JAE MILLZ

Where you at? We need the LP's

"NY been soft since snooped kicced over tha buildins" - Jay-Z

That says it best right there, end of story. Now someone explain why a nicca from NY would even admit it!!!

Fucc a NYC, & tell tha nicca who said jamaica is mo country then tha south to kill his self. Fo dumb comments like that u should C banned from a computer. All my points were facts, proven.

EF...this shit will go on all day. I guess the Kumbaya version of SOHH NYC was not a good look.

BTW...you're right. As long as I'm getting good music from everywhere, I could give a fuck.

@ Chevy G. Hustle :

Nigga read the rest of my post....I aint never contradict myself homie...

I said RECKLESS CAN TALK ABOUT SALES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE FUCK PIMP C IS USING AS EVIDENCE THAT THE EAST AINT POPPING RIGHT NOW!....that's what the fuck I said...And sales don't matter but Pimp C is trash when it comes to skills on the Mic too...Either way the niggas ass...Point blank period.

First of all some of y'all New York niggas don't even have respect for the founders and pioneers of the Hip-Hop game. As soon as someone from another region gets their shine, some of y'all are quick to holla that respect shit. Everytime I read an interview from any artist from Detroit, LA, The Bay Area, any parts of the South---they'll give props to KRS-One, Rakim, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Schooly D, etc.

It seem like the new New York niggas are jealous cuz the attention ain't on them cuz they quick to talk about----Ahhh, we did that a long time ago, do something new!!! Having gold grillz been an institution before Hip-Hop---before it was some New York shit.

Pimp C has a right to talk about what's going on, cuz their is a bias that exist in New York. If it ain't done by y'all or has a touch from y'all then it ain't right. It's been like for a long time, especially when the West Coast was runnin shit. The Source used to shit on anything that came out the West and didn't give proper respect. All I gotta say to the small folks that hate on everything, keep on hating!!! You Silky Johnson hateful sons of bitches.

wiso.....LANGUAGE LIKE "ALL DAY CUZ"....AND YOU SHITTING ON THE CITY OF YORK. YOU LOVE OUR STYLE NIGGA! SO YOU AS A SOUTHRN IDIOT RIDING FOR THE CAUSE IS IRRELEVANT!

Southern Star
NOW THIS IS A SILLY NIGGA RIGHT HERE....YOU CAN TELL BY THE NAME! MONEY, MONEY, MONEY THATS ALL THE SOUTH TALK ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO RAP....BECAUSE YOU CANT RAP SO YALL DONT EVEN DEFEND THE CRITICISM OF YOUR MUSIC. WHITE CORPORATES DIDNT COME TALENT SEARCHING....THEY WANT THE EASIEST NIGGAS TO WORK WITH.....THE SOUTH

WHITIES STILL FEAR THE EAST AND WEST COAST BLACK MAN....THEY DONT FEAR THE NON INTELLECT OF A SOUTHERN NIGGA....LIKE PIMP C !

AND ABOUT SELLS ...PLEASE SHOOT THESE SOUTHERN IDIOTS
WHEN YALL TITLED YOUR MOVEMENT THE DIRTY SOUTH....YOU CONNECTED ALL 13-14 SOUTHERN STATES.....WHO NOW THINK THAT IF THEY COP AN NY ALBUM THAT THEY BETRAYING THE SOUTHERN CAUSE. AND ITS NOT EASY TO SELL 50000 COPIES WORTH OF GARBAGE TO 50000 IDIOTS WHO REALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT RAP EXCEPT SOMEONE FROM THEIR AREA IS TRYING TO MAKE IT....LETS SUPPORT THEM! THE HUSTLE IN NY FILTERS THE GARBAGE QUICKLY...THE SOUTH LETS GARBAGE EXIST WITH GOOD SHIT

MONEY, CARS, WOMEN, STRIP CLUBS, HATE OF LYRICISM, BEAT LOVING, DRINKIN DIMETAPP (DUMB ASSES)

RIP HIP HOP
1973 - THE SOUTH

All I got to say is:
http://www.myspace.com/mrprez

PAPOOSE, SAIGON, JOEL ORTIZ, MANIO, JAE MILLZ

Where you at? We need the LP's

Posted by: JERZEY BOI at September 12, 2006 10:25 AM

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We don't need LP's from them niggaz. If we are waiting on these niggaz to "bring NY back" it won't happen. Papoose maybe but the rest of em are bottom feeders as far as stardom is concerned. We need a Fab album. A Jada/Lox album. These old ass niggaz working on their 8th and 9th albums ain't gonna cut it. Its not the lack of artists in NYC its the bulshit labels that have to satisfy the old school "10 album" deals. Thats why they are pushing a Meth album... a Ghost album... a DMX album.... these niggaz been in it 10 years already. Move the fuck over and let the youngins eat.

@FUCKTHE SOUTH
YO NYGIANT YOU JUST SAID IT MY NIGGA CLEAR AS DAY! I CAN TELL THE TRUTH HURTS THE SOUTH.

Son you know I didn't even wanna have to bring that card up but sometimes you gotta put thingS into perspective for niggas to see ya dig. I dont wanna sound like I hate the south cause I don't. I got alotta love for what the south is doing right now. cause the south is doing what any athlete playing a game does. The saw a hole an they exposed it. And now they're caking off ot it. Thats the game! Jay did it wit Big. Snoop did it with Pac. Joe did it wit Pun an so on. When they'res a gap you gotta capitalise of it. I'm just saying that most of wack music thats being made today happens to come from that region. I mean if you are gonna run shit do it accordinly or don't it at all!!

Posted by: Mr.Prez at September 12, 2006 10:21 AM

co-sign your entire thread

The problem with hip hop is all these niggas selling out for a chance to get on BET. Don't forget that BET sold out years ago. It's never been about black entertainment for Bob Johnson, it's been about green. When was the last time BET ran a movie or show addressing any black issue other then entertainment related topics. Who cares honestly what 106 & Park puts on as their top ten. I had to flip over to TV One to watch the State of the Black Union sunday. They fired Tavis Smiley years ago. It's not about getting checks all the time. There is an old saying that is true today, "all money ain't good money".

New topic:

What price is a man willing to pay for 15 min in the spotlight?

I directed my last thread at Southern Star. You can talk about that feeding your family theory, but it's proving to be true that none of these guys are really selling in any region.

Black Friday:
Dam yall playing the numbers game this week. Please make up your mind do nubmers count or not. This contradictory is killing this grown ass southern grl. Outkast flopped? What about Method Man and the Roots - are we doing numbers or we going with quality. So if we going by numbers then that must mean that Young Spoc has the beat album this summer.
Get that bomb as shit outta here. Yall niccas tripping. If you are equated the number of sales to the quality of the music then you are playing a dangerous game. Cuase if we go purely off numbers NYC ain't gonna be looking to good. So do we really wanna go there today.

Numbers? or Quality?

Make up yo mind and when you do I will speak on it.

Black Friday:

Where did Pimp C base that opinion on numbers? Only Reckless did that. NO ONE in the game is putting up good numbers. It's funny to me because you had niggaz down bottom clowning Ghostface cause he "flopped" (I'm basing this only on numbers). They was clowning Busta Rhymes for "flopping" (once again, judging on soundscan). And I clearly remember you saying that "real hip-hop" isn't going to do outrageous numbers in these days.

But the first rebuttal you put out there was the fact that Outkast and Pimp C's albums flopped (judging by Soundscan). Is that not a contradiction?

Black Friday:
Yeah you did contradict yourself b/c the 2nd or 3rd line of your post was that Outkast flopped - must be talking about numbers b/c the shit is fiyah. So I am waiting to see what angle we taking today.

@ Mr. Prez

Dog I feel ya. Believe me. I knew what you were trying to say. But it came across as that typical NY attitude. Like NYC gave the South permission to rap. And now that NY gave the South the green light to get mainstream exposure, we(the South) starts talking shit. Nah bruh.

The point that Me and Sizzle were trying to make is New York has always been and always will be a city full of hatin ass niggaz. I mean you hate on each other. So we expect you to hate the South. Thats nothing new. But when the South responds its like my man said earlier, "its like we bombed Pearl Harbor." All the sudden were the ones who are talking "wreckless" and that other bullshit. When the truth is NYC has always made sly remarks about the South. The South is just finally getting fed up with it. Cant you understand that?

@Frazier...

Most are willing to pay with their Souls.

People these days are straight attention whores...from the cats on TV to the people in your hood...I've know of dudes that live at home with MOMS but push Escalade's, Benz's...with rims & the whole nine. All just to try and stunt for broads. Shit is pathetic.

One thing about the ladies I don't understand...you go outside witha skirt on up to your neck...then get offended when a dude says something to you. I know your attire doesn't give anyone the right to disrespect you but DAMN, round here they get offended when approached on the humble...also what did you expect? Explain that shit for me.

Attention whores tho bruh...

@KSH :

if anybody else wouldve wrote that comment I wouldve blacked out on you but I respect you so I wont...Did you read my post? or did you just skim thru it? For the last time I SAID RECKLESS CAN TALK ABOUT SALES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE PIMP C IS USING AS EVIDENCE THAT THE EAST AINT POPPING RIGHT NOW....

Never did I say sales equals quality...You obviously didn't even read my comment...

Read it again and holla back at me...

@KSH, don't forget to drink me down with cold water. It's so refreshing!

Posted by: ernest frazier at September 12, 2006 10:25 AM

I had to take two. One at time; real slow...lol

106 exposure isn't as big as yall think. Kelis was no 1 on 106 and park for like a month and she still came out the gate selling 60K. Christina Milian was no 1 also she got tanked after pushing 50K her first week. They might sell ringtones like a mother fucker but 106 is not the power that it used to be. That being said, BET is a bad example of "BLACK ENTERTAINMENT". They should rename it CHILDRENS BET because that the only audience that they cater to.

I dont think Pimp C was talking about himself as much as he was talking about the South in general taking over the music scene. I think he is right. New York is out here bitter right now, but the thing is is that its just the natural cycle of shit. I still feel a lot of East coast artists, but everybody gotta have they time to shine. SOHH shouldnt get so mad--that was a frustrated rant SOHH did on Pimp C's comments. Damn--The east will have its turn again. Shit u got Nas and Jay bout to release some shit for Christs sake.

The TI's, Little Waynes, Ludacis's, Bun B's, and a host of other niggas from the South are just makin that shit niggas luv right now--How can a nigga be mad at niggas just like u, just from another region movin units? Its almost like hate......Divide and conquer, Willie Lynsch shit... u need to be fuckin wit theme niggas instead of griping.

And who making more money off young cock album than young cock....Puff Daddy...another guy from NY...HAHHAHAHAHA Damn I can do this all day but my grits are getting cold fucking with yall niggas.

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MY QUESTION IS DC HAS GO GO MUSIC THAT THEY STICK TO RELIGIOUSLY

IF YALL HATE WHAT NY IS SAYING....WHY NOT START YOUR OWN SHIT AND ROCK WITH IT?

ITS LIKE A PRETTY BITCH SAYING LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE, BUT YOU STILL KEEP CHASING.....POINT IS YOU NEVA GONNA GET ANY PUSSY NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU KEEP TRYING

THATS LIKE NY AND THE SOUTH....STOP TRYING TO VIE FOR OUR ATTENTION...THE MORE YOU TAUNT US AND TRY TO TALK GREASY BOUT NY....THE MORE WE NOT GONNA CARE FOR THE SOUTH

AND WHEN DID THE WEST EVER HAVE IT? PEOPLE DONT LET MEDIA FOOL YOU...TO SAY THE WEST WAS RUNNING IT WAS TO GET THE POPULATION IN THE WEST TO JOIN IN THE HIP HOP BUYING MARKET....BUT PAC WAS A NEW YORK NIGGA HOLDING IT DOWN FOR A WHOLE NOTHA COAST.....YALL LOVE NY NIGGAZ...FACE IT!

LIKE WITH OUR CLOTHING FABRICS, SLANG, SWAGGER, DIDDY BOP....YALL BEEN STEALING FROM NY B4 RAP....DONT BE ASHAMED IT AINT ONLY THE SOUTH ON OUR DICK.....THE WORLD IS!

FUNNY CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE ALOT OF YALL NIGGAZ IS SAD CAUSE NYC TO YOU MIGHT MEAN "NOT YOUR CITY"
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

AND IM FROM NEWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YORRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!

AND JUST IN CASE YOU THOUGHT NY AINT THOSE NIGGAS NO MORE....FUCK RAP....LOOK AT YOUR BITCHES WHEN THEY SEE A NEW YORK COME THROUGH......NUFF SAID!

@Chevy G. Hustle :

Ok I see where the confusion is coming in with yall...I heard the whole interview and that's what Pimp C was referring to...All he was talking about was sales as his argument that the East aint popping right now and why he said the South is(which I wrote about 3 times already)

If yall wanna talk about quality of music it really aint even an argument...If you see my post I listed people from the North, West and Midwest that dropped real shit in the last 6 months...

Read my post again...that's for you too KSH...

We don't need LP's from them niggaz. If we are waiting on these niggaz to "bring NY back" it won't happen.

That is a matter of opinion. This is are fresh meat new artist since the south wants to say we are gambling on dudes who have been in the game for awhile or washed up.

Papoose maybe but the rest of em are bottom feeders as far as stardom is concerned. We need a Fab album. A Jada/Lox album. These old ass niggaz working on their 8th and 9th albums ain't gonna cut it.

You ovisouly only know of pap which tells me you just know what a buzz is you really don't follow the under ground stay in your lane. What old ass niggas are you talking about? Cause what your saying don't make any sense

Its not the lack of artists in NYC its the bulshit labels that have to satisfy the old school "10 album" deals. Thats why they are pushing a Meth album... a Ghost album... a DMX album.... these niggaz been in it 10 years already. Move the fuck over and let the youngins eat.

Ah didn't you just old headz bring back LOX or Jada how long do you think they been around. Listen b you ovisouly don't know what your saying stay in you lane kid. I've been listening to hip hop since 81. You sound mad young.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 12, 2006 10:33 AM

This is sad. THIS IS WAY DEEPER THAN HIP-HOP. I'm from the North and live in the South. You a house nigga. I'm so tired of uppity, "I'm from the North and I speak the King's English well" type niggas that are ashamed of the South.
Whether we like it or not, they beat and stripped most of our AFRICAN culture out of us when they enslaved us. And since we haven't made a conscious effort to reclaim it - THE SOUTH IS HOME TO ALL BLACK PEOPLE IN AMERICA. Whether you are physically from there and whether you like it or not. Everytime y'all talk about "grown ass women who can't read", elementary this and basic that, you are proving that like most of the uppity ass niggas from Up North (where I'm from), you don't know who the fuck you are and you're ashamed of your heritage. Learn about it nigga.

First of all some of y'all New York niggas don't even have respect for the founders and pioneers of the Hip-Hop game. As soon as someone from another region gets their shine, some of y'all are quick to holla that respect shit. Everytime I read an interview from any artist from Detroit, LA, The Bay Area, any parts of the South---they'll give props to KRS-One, Rakim, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Schooly D, etc.

Posted by: Kinny Mack at September 12, 2006 10:31 AM

I agree with this but you are quietly missing the subtle hit at the new school east coast rappers. It's great that they are giving respect to the old school, but they are still missing guys like Busta, Jay, Big, Nas, Tribe and so on. These guys just want their proper respect. I don't think NYC is jealous at all. Being a little older than most of u, I expect the same thing from younger men.

What I believe is that most trends that I've seen in my life related to hip hop have started in the East. Bass music started in Miami, Gangsta Rap started in the LA and high speed verses started in the Midwest. Every region has a distinct style but NYC has numerous styles and distinctions that have been copied over and over again. I'm from Chicago so I have no particular allegiance to any region except my own, but I respect all of the others. I don't appreciate all these dumb downed lyrics and anything to make a buck type things I pick up on the airwaves these days. NY went thru that a few years ago also, so did the west and so did the midwest. None of this is new and you always had those niggas trying to claim that trend as their own. Stop making more out of this than what it is.

I'm going to keep this short and sweet, as i wanted to break my damn computer after reading this guys comments regarding the pimp, pimp has biggie, nas, jay, respect in the south, if he wasn't lyrical and highly respected jay wouldn't have asked ugk to be on big pimpin' they've been doin' it for years, and to diss the pimp in this manner the writer of this damn blog should be strung up in the nearest tree down here in texas, i got one in my yard with a thick ass branch to hold your hate filled ass!!! respect a man who's been doin', menace II society soundtracks, and got royalty love all over the map, not just the south, your favorite rappers, favorite rapper ya dig? get your fuckin' mind right if you were here i'd brind a right cross to ur jaw quick for that, it's one thing to be objective and disagree, i can handle that... but you were outright making a mockery of pimp c and i can't stand for that shit, you fuck! show some respect, get your mind game right, realize that what he said was the truth, we been having money down here, the flow is different, the style is different, and you need to respect that and keep your mouth closed and don't speak on it, i GUARANTEE you if you showed that blog to Jay-Z he'd say the writer was a dumbass too, WHY cause he's intelligent knows the game, and what ugk did for not just the south, but underground rappers as a whole... i ain't even sayin there my favorite rappers, but i will defend them when there is a misjustice, the pimp is very educated and speaks how he feels, don't get mad cause he makes sense, you yankee fuck!!! ugk for life. to everyone else on this blog, good morning all, what it do, htownmike is in the building...

Lets see if the NYC niggaz can put their money where their mouth is. BOOT CAMP CLICK will be at S.O.B's tonight....
Yall feel so strongly about this shit then support these dudes. Niggaz talk allday about support but Ghostface releases and amazing album in a city of 10 million and can't even go copper. Every album this nigga has put out has been critiaclly acclaimed but we don't support the nigga and artist like him. I hear this shit all the time from my homies and when I ask them what is the last album they copped, it was from last year. Put the fuck up or shut the fuck up. Southern artist get support ffrom their fans and we need to do the same.

AND JUST IN CASE YOU THOUGHT NY AINT THOSE NIGGAS NO MORE....FUCK RAP....LOOK AT YOUR BITCHES WHEN THEY SEE A NEW YORK COME THROUGH......NUFF SAID!

Posted by: WIT A SODA ON THE SIDE at September 12, 2006 10:44 AM

C'mon man. That's bullshit. Whenever I go to southside Queens, broads be on Southern niggaz dicks just cause they like the way we talk.

Broads goin always flock to what's new. Get a new arguement.

Black Friday:
You know I got mad love for you two. And I repsect your opinion always. And if I misread I am woman enough to apologize. I read it again just for clarity and the feeling I got was that b/c Outkast did not sell must mean that it was not good - all I am saying that Meth and The Roots did not put up no mega numbers either and I have all three CD's and all of them are spitting flames out the ass. But I respect your opinion on the music and I see your point. All that is cool. I just can't get with dissing a whole region just b/c of some bomb bubble gum shit. My main point is that Reckless took it to another level on some crying moaning like he getting fucked in the ass bitch shit when he said "grown ass women that can't read".

I chop it up on NYC almost everyday and the topics are usually on point but this gotta be some quota shit for Reckless b/c he is a dumb MF if he believes the shit he spittin.

naj.:

You got me cracking the fuck up on that analysis of how this shit is going down today.LMAO

Black Friday:
Yeah you did contradict yourself b/c the 2nd or 3rd line of your post was that Outkast flopped - must be talking about numbers b/c the shit is fiyah. So I am waiting to see what angle we taking today.

Posted by: KSH at September 12, 2006 10:40 AM
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I aint contradict shit...Im starting to think Reckless was right that you niggas really can't read....Pimp C said " them niggas up north is just mad cause they aint selling no records" thats what the nigga said...then he said he wanna have a contest to see who can sell more records, niggas who call they self 'real hip hop artists' and niggas who make music like him...

My point is, How could a nigga who can't even sell 250,000 be talking shit about record sales? that should be the last thing he brings up...That's why I made my comments...

I DON'T CONTRADICT MYSELF...correct yourself!

dude what in the fuck is wrong with you Reckless. all you NYC bitches hop on the back of a couple succesful rappers and think you invited rap or hip hop? Shut that shit up. I'm from Houston aka Hustle Town, Texas. and if you are judging southern rap by the shit you see on MTV or BET then yea...it is whack. But none of us jam that corny, bullshit, played out, mainsteam shit. Those songs and videos you hear/see are the ones that you mother fuckin Yankees are requesting to be put on the air. Those are the songs that our MCs are smart enough to make cuz they know they'll get their moneys worth. and while Pimp C may be a washed up rapper speakin way out of place in that quote, he does have a point. New York needs to stop crying...Biggie is dead...Jay runs New York...and we still have to listen to your stupid fuckin G Unit bullshit everyday on our radios and see your corny bullshit on TV everyday...and we don't bitch and moan. so shut the fuck up and get your mind correct.

I don't know why yall keep saying east coast. Its not the east its just NY. Get it right. Not the east. Yall always trying to put a whol region in it. Its only NY whose beefin nobody else. You don't hear Philly, NJ,DC, Bmore sayin this shit just NYC

Posted by: JERZEY BOI at September 12, 2006 10:46 AM

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Chill homie. I mentioned Pap because he has the most buzz but I have heard every artist you named. I've even promo'd for em so just chill. Fab and Jada have been around but they have only 4 solo albums between them so thats why we need something from them. They are still relevant in the hip hop game also. I posted ananoymous by mistake but if you read IHADNOCHOICE 'spost up above you will see that was raised on Hip Hop just like everybody on this blog.
I know where you are coming from with the fresh meat reference because I feel the same way but there are some good artist that have been around that haven't put stuff out as consistently as saome of the washed up dudes from NYC.

@All

None of it matters cause we just paracites right now. We tryin to make as much "CHANGE" off the back of this music before it faes away. It doesn't have to fade, but as long as we have blogs and forums where even the listeners are divided and angry, it's a wrap. I didn't come here to argue I came here as an artist and a fan to reach out and see whats poppin in other regions cause real talk half of y'all are artist and prolly can't get to NY to build with one of uf for real and see that our cometitive nature isn't all bad and at the same time we can't all just shoot down to ATL and really get to know how it goes down out there and gain a better appreciation, soon as we get a forum like this we beef. I won't be a part of that so Im ghost, I aint come here for that... Im down with all the playboys and ladies on here y'all keep it poppin... Nothin but love over here, Stay up

As long as they keep us divided they can control us I got frustrated and started to feed right into it and Im enbarassed, all y'all niggas is good money wit me... ONE

Aight yall enough this shit. The Guys were all talking about have more money than all of us and are doing alot more with they're lives than we are talkin on this damn blog...Yo tell shorty who wrote this blog to look me up if you ever in Harlem

naj.

i agree haha

KSH...hey the truth hurts but it can be funny as hell too...

I said my piece...but I guess that brick wall needs more talking to so I'm gonna sit back and watch the fur fly.

RECKLESS, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A PASS FOR THIS BLOG CUZ THIS IS SOHH NYC. BUT I AGREE WITH PIMP C. HIP HOP AIN'T DEAD. YOU AT LEAST GOTTA GIVE CREDIT FOR THE SOUTH BRINGIN THE PARTY VIBE BACK TO RAP AND CREATING DANCES. THAT WAS WHAT MADE RAP SO GREAT IN THE FIRST PLACE. NOW ALL THAT COMES OUTTA NYC IS GREASY GUN TALK. DON'T GET IT TWISTED THOUGH. NYC HAS FAR SUPERIOR LYRICIST, AND I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE IN LINE COPPIN THAT STYLES P. RAP SHOULD BE RESPECTED FROM ALL REGIONS. TEXAS STAND THE FUCK UP!

The loser of this argument should be what rapper/region ends up on the "SEXYBACK" remix ...

HTOWNMIKE...your speakin good truth yo...writer of this blog is a fuckin whack job. I'm from NYC and I'd dick slap the writer of this blog for being an ignorant hater.

I had to take two. One at time; real slow...lol

Posted by: KSH at September 12, 2006 10:41 AM

Slow with a little gulp at the opening of the windpipe. I want to make sure it gets all the way down and in. lol

@Cic

The only problem with flossing is it usually comes at the cost of time. Think about what a person has to do to maintain that kind of lifestyle. Work often instead of getting educated. Sell drugs and risk incarceration. Flossing costs too much money and time. For women, it cost a lot more. Servitude to some ungrateful man, their precious womanhood and the energy it takes to draw those kind of guys.

The question is still out there.

What price should a man pay for those 15 min of fame? Is selling out worth it?

Go back to Bob Johnson for a minute. He is the first black owner in 80 yrs of a professional sports franchise and he has been met with mixed emotions by the black community. A lot of us feel that he has compromised the struggle for his own personal gain. We should celebrate him like we do Oprah Winfrey, but we don't.

If some of you stans can get off of the beef shit for a minute and produce a coherent thought, please answer the question.

I heard K-Feds is on the sexyback remix

Oh my gawd....somebody had the nerve to mention wack ass Papoose.....when is that LP droppin again? Never.

I tell you niggas what.....wait on the Jay Z album to drop, the whole Tri State area will cop it, then yall can post the soundscan numbers and brag on one nigga.

And for that fool that said UGK was unheard of before Big Pimpin...I know you dont live in the south, they are classic along with Eightball and MJG. Just cause you bottled up in the Tri State area dont mean run ya mouth about your sheltered world fool.

Get for real...you learn some hip hpo nigga. Wu Week just passed, how much love did yall show them niggas, ZERO!!
NY dont support NY...simple as that. Weed out those clowns like Tru Life, and you might have a shot. I tell you what "let it rain and clear it out!"...bwuahahaha.....

Posted by: NewYorkHustle at September 12, 2006 11:00 AM

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How is HE the Hater when he is just responding to Pimp C's comments. Pimp C shouldn't be the one making those kind of statement because MOST hip hop hyeads only recognize his ass from Big Pimpin. I am up on UGK so I know better but the grillz quote is what did it.
Right now "I know you see it " by young Joc is playing now. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU PUT "
EENIE MEENIE MINEY MO" anywhere in your song ? That shit is just amazing to me ...lol.

@ Mr. Prez

I apologize. Lol.

Your right though they make us feed into this hatred. Damn you Reckless!!!! I'm out 2. i gotta headache from all this shit.

@ ihadnochoice

I want to see these new kats do it. NYC does need new artist already because those are the most hungry. New artist alway's make a fire LP cause there hungry even all are vets are not doing like back in the day doesn't mean there washed up but they made a name for themselves and don't work as hard. It's time to move over give it to the new commers just like you stated in your post. NYC has been put on the back burner cause most of them are not willing to do bubble gum shit and this is what corporate america want now.

Okay, I'll answer a real question today.

EF...we talked about that whole Bob Johnson dynamic before, it's kinda fucked up but who's to say if we weren't in the same position we wouldn't sell? At the end of the day, if you grew up modest and just want to achieve wealth before you die, are you wrong?

So now he's starting a movie house to give black filmmakers an avenue to make movies that will bring something back to the community outside of Soul Plane. But once it becomes sucessful, does he sell that to Paramount or Time Warner?...

Some people aren't built to serve the good their people. Bob as much as he's done was never going to truly serve his people when he sold BET.

@ernest

Inregaurds to your question..The thing about money is that it forces you to sacarfice your intergrity. For example I work in retail and alot of time I have to eat shit from my customers because "its a check". Look at Jay -z and Nas or Mobb Deep and 50. You can see the same thing in most reality tv show like savior or big brother..I believe the underlying messeage of those shows are" what would you do for a millon dollars.

@Black Friday

Respect to you but get off of my homegirl. I read your post and i misunderstood it also. It seemed like you were co-signing Reckless and Pimp C. They both were saying the same thing by the way. I know by reading your posts, and so does KSH, that you like quality hip hop. Don't get it twisted, she only wanted you to clarify your statement.

@ ATL RED

Do you have a new dance or nursery rhyme for us. Cause all your grown ass men are doing it. I KNOW YOU SEE IT!!!INY MINI MINY MOE!

Some people aren't built to serve the good their people. Bob as much as he's done was never going to truly serve his people when he sold BET.

Posted by: naj. at September 12, 2006 11:07 AM

Good thought, but why not. He had the platform and the support. If a man isn't willing to die for the struggle, then he isn't part of it. Is that a fair statement. It's not mine, it's Harry Belafonte's. I co-sign it though.

@anonymous, is that purposeful or did you forget to add your name?

THIS SHIT IS A WASTE OF TIME.EVERYBODY WANTS RESPECT BUT NOBODY IS GIVING ANY RESPECT.YOU HAVE TO GIVE TO GET.

Posted by: ernest frazier at September 12, 2006 11:00 AM

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Finally....
A question with some substance.
I think the fact that BOB Johnson sold BET to VIACOM is what irks people. But its not all his fault because Billy Cosby and Okra Winfrey could have copped BET and made it what they thought it should be but they just like to talk shit about the black inner city struggle but won't show face to it. I respect Okra and Billy C for their contributions but this was a HUGER oppurtunity to make something happen that can have a lsating an generational effect but it didn't happen. I don't mean to slam just those two because there are other black that could have gotten invloved but it is what it is. I admire what Bob Johnson did as far as copping th franchise because that will give some of the young anfd filthy rich entrepenuer a higher goal otyher than copping the hottest sports car out on the market. But at the same time, these guys do a lot of charity work behind the scenes for our community (I am guessing on this because of word of mouf) so I have to give them the benefit of the doubt.

@ernest
And to be even more honest it that "I aint shit if I dont got shit" mentality thats fucking everything up. Cause we get took from a young age that if you broke you aint shit. So if your mindsate is "I ain't shit" than selling crack or robbin someboby isn't nothing cause yet again I ain't shit..you dig what I'm saying.

anon was me E Freezy...

Black Friday:
Okay I hear you. Since I can't read I will go and let yall have this and if NYC come with some mo shit I will put it in heavy rotation.

But I know I gotta go b/c my head is hurting again. **Dam I can't read**

Okay.

naj: It ain't sinking in so I am out til later when the subject changes.

EFrazier: You illustrate it so good. Dam! LOL I gotta go take two more just to visualize.

I am out!

@ernest frazier :

All due respect but mind your business dude...I dont need you to tell me who to get off your girl or not...
Second, I posted my comment before I read her last one clarifying her posistion so I understand where the confusion came in...Me and KSH are good.

No need for comments from people on the side line...

KSH we're good...

Yall be easy

Don't these stupid ass South assholes know that niggaz on the East where rockin' grillz looooong before they even thought of the shit....niggaz where rocking gold "fronts" back in the fucken 70's and so fourth during the Spoonie G era of rap......so you BAMA and Gay area niggaz please shut the FUCK UP!!!

FUCK RECKLESS!
Bitch made ass nigga.
this shit really shows what u bout.
u givin him the publicity for his stunt u hoe ass nigga just to try and get some shit started, i used to have nothin but love for u but now u can just eat a sick dick and die u bitch.

Texas Baby!

@anonymous, is that purposeful or did you forget to add your name?

Posted by: ernest frazier at September 12, 2006 11:12 AM
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I was not the anonymous at 11:08...lol.
this shit is confusing.

EFrazier: you are such a darling. That is why got mad luv for you.

And I will answer your off topic question in a mintue so give me a few and I will be back.

@ernest @anonymous, is that purposeful or did you forget to add your name?

That was by accident.

That's why I try and support TVOne, but who knows they may sell eventually.

But damn good point ihadnochoice said. Considering Oprah does have a network, it's more a alternative to Lifetime, but not necessarily a network for black folks.

So many rich black folks bitch about this generation but think philantrophy is the way to give back, it's gonna take more than that. Providing media outlets that give another side to our people would be a start.

On that note, I got some work to do...

E Freezy and KSH...
Just get it poppin already. This sweetie this and sweetie that is quite annoying.lol.
Give the nigga some ass and get it over with damn...lol.
Lets move on.

Posted by: naj. at September 12, 2006 11:20 AM
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exactly. You can give money till the sun burns out, as long as there is no foundation, nothing will change. Where were all theses niggaz when the Harlem Boys Choir went bankrupt ? Niggaz wanna shout Harlem all day and say they are giving back to the communnity but handing out $1000 worth of turkey ain't cutting it son.

I'm just wondering about all of this. I don't pass any of them for quiet charity. I think they need to open up and organize. It's shameful that Oprah, Bill and Bob talk the talk but don't walk the walk. With the combined power they share, they can make a difference. Jay goes out and talks about a water shortage but what about the shortages in black schools. There is a largess of liquor stores well stocked with the finest wine and spirits.

Once again the question:

What price would you pay for 15 min of fame? Would you sell out in order to move ahead? Answer it honestly.

the last anon was me

ihadnochoice: I am trying can't you see...lol!

Black Friday: We are good. You are passionate and so am I. No harm done.

EFrazier:(wink wink) LMAO!

FUNNY 2 THAT SELLS IS THE BIGGEST TOPIC NOW A DAYS IN RAP.

WHEN SNOOP DID 4 MIL JIGGA DID 5.....NIGGAZ STARTED TO GET SPOILED THINKING PLAT WAS THE NORM....NIGGAZ AINT EVEN TALK NUMBERS....WE TALKED ABOUT A TRACK AND HOW HOT THAT SHIT WAS AND WHAT THE NIGGA SAID! THE MUSIC WAS GETTING SO GOOD....NUMBERS WERE ONLY A BI PRODUCT OF A HOT PRODUCT

NOW WITH THE LACK OF GOOD RAP MUSIC....SELLS HAS BECOME THE DOMINANT THEME. WHY, SIMPLY BECAUSE THE MUSIC IS NOT GOOD! THOUGH 1.5 SOLD, TI BEEN STRUGGLING TO PUSH UNITS AFTER WHAT U KNOW BECAUSE THE CD IS NOT THE WELL ROUNDED.....WE ALL KNOW BUSTA ALBUM IS SICK, BUT THE SELLS AINT THERE.....THE CONSUMER MARKET HAS BEEN SO CONFUSED BY THE RUSH OF SOUTHERN GARBAGE THAT PEOPLE DONT APPRECIATE REAL HIP HOP AT ALL ANY MORE

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Posted by: ihadnochoice at September 12, 2006 11:20 AM

Based on our current domestic situations, unfortunately we are relegated to mind sex. Sometimes, that is better than physical. lol

Black People Unite
Let's all get down.

Black People Unite
Let's all get down.

Fuck the region beef. It's officially over now.
I just put an end to it.

No more region beef!!!!!

Check out that "Dorchester Univercity" the first album from Intellectual Wizardry aka I.W.Krew

Exclusivly available at
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I'm in my last few posts. I have a project starting in a few hours. I hope you guys stay off topic and on some important shit. Reckless can go fight the stans over in Sohh Houston.

Just because you don't hear it on the radio in the East doesn't mean that ill music hasn't been coming out of it. The Wu alone is taking it backing. It started with Masta Killa's No Said Date, continued with Grandmasters and Fishscale and the new Meth is dope. The Roots just dropped (last time I checked Philly was the East). Apathy dropped a classic. It could go on and on (and WAIT for that Styles P album. Plus EPMD just got back together and Rakim is dropping next year).

I've been bumping UGK since '98. But Pimp C's view of his ass must be a lot better than his view of the hip-hop game because that's where his head is at if he's saying we killed hip-hop and that good hip-hop isn't coming out of the East...F--- OUTTA HERE! ~ Peace

@ernest frazier
I would never sell out for something thats temporay. Fame an Money are tempoary. name me one artists now that have the same amount of fans as they did when they first blew. I remember a few years ago every body loved 50, now look. Things change man an the only thing that is eternel is your legacy. And I'm not willing to put a price tag on it.

I CO-SIGN THAT ENTIRE ARTICLE WORD FOR WORD.PIMP C should thank Jay Z(King of N.Y.)for giving him shine when no one outside your region knew who the fuck u were(Big Pimpin').Then u go away and this whole "Free Pimp C" shit started for what? so u can come and put out an album that didn't do shit? Go fuck yourself Pimp.

Reckless you got to be the stupids nigga on this watered down as blogs. Nigga first you need to take a look at yesterdays shit because this subject was already talked about dumbass, second nigga you talkin about niggas in the south being dumb nigga can you read the nigga pimp said " We all got grillz in our mouth, now they want grillz in they mouth on the east" it dont say anywhere in that statement that we(The South)started grills hoe yeh ya best bet is to keep that bullshit in this ol lame ass sohh nyc shit

@Frazier

I'm late getting back but chea...co-sign that man. Peoples priorities are messed up, especially the younger (my) generation. Another story altogether.

Bout the ladies...(shrugs). That's why I don't deal with chickens. Only those on they grown woman shit.

I think I'm done commenting on bullshit like this topic. Seems like the whole blog disintegrates into nothing in record time these days.

REAL TALK THAT NIGGA TOLD THE TRUTH.
FOR ONE EAST COAST NIGGAZ DO EVEN DO FEATURES WITH EACH OTHER. FOR TWO NIGGAZ IN THE EAST DO KNOW HOW TO GET PAPER IF THEY HAD SINCE TAKE THAT SHIT BACK UNDERGROUND.THRID YALL EAST COAST NIGGA JUST HATTERS. BUT REAL TALK EAST COAST RAPPERS MIGHT WANNA BE CAUTIOUS TO RESPONDING WHAT THE PIMP SAID,CUZ ONE THANG ABOUT IT THE WHOLE SOUTH GONE RIDE WITH PIMP. YALL EAST COAST NIGGAS GET SOME UNITY AND QUIT FUCKING CRYING.LIKE MY GRANDPA TOLD ME A LONG TIME AGO.:LET THE BABY CRY SOMETIME.

Yo why do we always feel we have to address each other with"nigga" or nigger" which ever way you spell it the true defination of it never changed.

Real Talk

@Disrespect

Did you get budden?

LIKE PAC TOLD YALL NIGGAZ ALL U OLD SCHOOL RAPPERS LOOKING LIKE LARRY HOLMES.
REAL TALK ALL YALL OLD ASS EAST COAST RAPPERS LET THEM YOUNG NIGGAZ ON OUT THERE.HATING ON YALL OLD KIND

Reckless you got to be the stupids nigga on this watered down as blogs. Nigga first you need to take a look at yesterdays shit because this subject was already talked about dumbass, second nigga you talkin about niggas in the south being dumb nigga can you read the nigga pimp said " We all got grillz in our mouth, now they want grillz in they mouth on the east" it dont say anywhere in that statement that we(The South)started grills hoe yeh ya best bet is to keep that bullshit in this ol lame ass sohh nyc shit

Posted by: Shiesty_G at September 12, 2006 11:33 AM

That is what Pimp said but read between the lines fool. Why do you think he said that? For him to bring up any fashion statment is ridiculus because NYC made front's, gold caps a hip hop thing way back when the south took an old idea a revamped it. Bravo good for you that shit is stupid. I thought it was retarded back then and still is.

nelly murdered KRS one in a battle!-FACT.haha.dirty south stand up!

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Nelly album flopped like most southern artist did this yr!- fact

@truthseeker

I feel you on legacy, but what kind of legacy are you leaving now? Are you actively involved with your children if you have any? What about yourself and education, how about your community. If you have no particular activity related towards advancement can you answer the question honestly? That's not a question to you personally, it's a general question to everyone reading this thread.

@ihadnochoice

I know it's you on those anonymous threads, I can tell by the writing. I don't have your answer and I'm always curious about your insights.

@chiddy
Please dont bring Pac into this especially on the anniversery of his passing. That brother stood for alot and he we would be turning in his grave watching the way his people are beefing over who makes better music, when theres alot more bigger issuses goin on in the hood.

What price would you pay for 15 min of fame? Would you sell out in order to move ahead? Answer it honestly.

Posted by: ernest frazier at September 12, 2006 11:23 AM

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I prolly would Big Ernie. I can't front. I am looking toward MY future so I am gonna do what is more beneficial to me and my family first.
But 1 billion dollars is a lot more than me and my family need so I would definetely help those around me. ABSOLUTELY. If I had 5 million I would use that to lay the foundation for my family. But 1 billion is astronomical. I would have to feel that god blessed me with that to help other and I am not even religious. I would go the Bill Gates route. Make sure my fam is strait for the rest of their lives and the rest of their children childrens live and everything else would go to helping people.

WHERE IN THE HELL ARE THE USUALS.

ATTEN!ATTEN!ATTEN!ATTEN!ATTEN!ATTEN!ATTEN!ATTEN!ATTEN!ATTEN!ATTEN!ATTEN!

IF YOU ARE NOT A USUAL, GO BACK TO YOUR NORMAL BLOGS.
ALL STANS LEAVE FOR THE SAKE OF RAP MUSIC.
TAKE THIS STUPID ASS TOPIC TO YOUR NORMAL BLOGS.
SOHH NEW YORK IS BEING INVADED BY STANS AND OUTSIDERS!

HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!

Honestly who the fuck cares what NY likes. Honestly fuckboyz, UGK was selling on all other coasts before big pimpin. And who the fuck made you bitches God in the game anyway. HOw you gonna say our shit is repetitive when all yall rap about is cars,drugs,and clothes too.NY salty cuz you dont have to sell in NY to make money anymore. Hoestly why should anyone care anymore what yall think. You showed the world your true colors back in the 90"s as being haters, and whiny bitches if it wasnt yall on top. Westside Connection made 2 singles that went top 5 on any chart anywhere, but since it wasnt a nigga sukin off NY yall didnt even play it. Back when the Source Awards meant something, yall couldnt see anyone else again shining. Hell yall even boo'ed Outkast when they won. So in all honesty yall ARE haters. Nobody's ever disrespected the originators of the game, but guess what jigga and nas and biggie didnt start this shit. They held it down and became legends, but honestly noone out there is supporting each other. The few beefs the south and west have are just that few a minuscule. In Detroit its gotten a whole lot grimy, but thats a whole other story. POint of the matter is NY's opinion is no longer needed nor wanted in this game anymore and you guys are salty. POint in case "yall niggaz need to stop cying". Its been a repetative process for years with you and so far you've lost the war at it cuz PAC and Snoop killed anything with a pulse when yall tried to respond the first time.Niggas everywhere even white people were throwin up the W's. Only dudes bumpin yall replies was yall. And they do have shit in the south thats garbage I've lived in Miami, Atl, N.O, and Houston, trust me we know there's a difference b/t hip hop and club bangers. You vant possibly compare Ying yang twins and Jadakiss and ask who is the better artist. Some people only like club bangers others like me enjoy both, but would listen to Jadakiss for some grimy shit. So from now on you gonna see a new shirt for the new campaign goin around, its gonna be called "stop bitchin stop hatin". Its time other niggas got to eat. The niggas that onyl do it for the money like paul wall will die slow, trust me. Real hip hop will only comeback when you and me the fans really control what we buy and listen too. Reckless you and ya bunch and lil kids yo u enojoy brainwashing in the hod and suburbian America can go fuck off. I been around since the game began lil nigga, I know what I wants to listen to and I know the real. You and the white poeple brainwashin these lil youngsters gonna get yallz.

@Cic

Thats why I'm changing it around. It eliminates the stans and it jumps to something real. I really wouldn't mind just talking about some real hip hop shit but these days, any mention of a hip hop point gets the stans restless. We should start our own shit.

@truthseeker

Nigga is a term of endearement. In history, blacks have always found a way to turn a negative into a positive. It's part of our contribution to pop culture. Nigga can refer to any group of people and that is the way we've found to diffuse the overt racially charged history of that term. Now, when the term Negroe or colored person is uttered, then you should feel resentment. Look up the definition of the word Negro by Audley "Queen Mother" Moore. That word carries more social significance than nigga any day.

Based on our current domestic situations, unfortunately we are relegated to mind sex. Sometimes, that is better than physical. lol

Posted by: ernest frazier at September 12, 2006 11:25 AM
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It might be better if the chicks physical is at 300lbs.lol.
But I feel you on that. But I'm not stupid dude... if KSH was less than a plane ride away ( like the next city/boro over)... it would get done. lol
Tell me different.....

Nelly album flopped like most southern artist did this yr!- fact

Posted by: real at September 12, 2006 11:40 AM
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If flopping is selling 3 million units then flop the shit outta me.......

I KNOW WHY RECKLESS POSTED THIS BLOG!

2 chase the usuals away today and draw in the stans and these stupid ass coons from up top and down bottom fell for it.

Reckless I didn't know you were a master of manipulation but shyt you've just proved me wrong.

2 the usuals like Disrespect said above return to your normal day jobs and let the job-less stans fight and bicker over what region has the top selling artist that isn't doing anything for their community.

FUCK IT I'M OUT!

PEACE!
BROOKLYN STAND UP!

Man fuck all that extra shit. My coast better than yours/ Your coast better than mine, fuck all that. You born to fuckin die, in the meanwhile get money!!!!

@ernest
Brother I dont have any kids yet but you better believe when I do I will teach them about knowledge of self before I teach them knowledge of wealth. Now this is not to say that I wont encourage them to make money. Of course I will. I mean in this society you can't function without money but at the same time I believe if you understand yourself an know what your true purpose is...money will find you. Take me for example because I rap I have alot of kids that come up to me like "I wanna be a rapper too so I can be rich an fuck pretty chicks" and I always use the methphor that rapping for money an shiny things is like going to a diner just for a glass a water..in the sense that why would you only want that when its comes with it..you see what I'm saying?

Seriously this regional beef shit is stupid. You were wrong for what you wrote Reckless. The south has some of the greatest ARTIST out here. I'm tired of hearing punk ass 50 Cent and the rest of those PUSSY-Unit hoes even Young Buck. Don't get me wrong I listen to Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, Ready To Die, etc. I also listen to some of the new artist in the East but the West, South, and Midwest has some of the greatest hip hop albums and artist in the game past present and future. Wu-Tang and Run DMC are great groups and they are among the greatest hip hop acts that ever did it but don't count out Outkast, 2 Live Crew, Goodie Mob, Bone Thugs, Dogg Pound, The Outlawz and so on. I guess you have forgot that Jay-Z biggest hit was with UGK so watch what you say. One last thing that was an ignorant statement you made about the women down here in the south only some Uncle Tom bitch would say so fuck you and everything you love BITCH!!

http://www.comcast.net/news/national/index.jsp?cat=DOMESTIC&fn=/2006/09/12/474499.html&cvqh=itn_harvard

Read the story! Slowly but surely it's beginning to happen for us!

http://www.comcast.net/news/national/index.jsp?cat=DOMESTIC&fn=/2006/09/12/474497.html

How beautiful is this?

@Frazier.

I'm telling you fam. Let me know when you want to put it together.

Chiddy at September 12, 2006 11:34 AM

true that true that

THE FACT IS THAT THERE ARE ALOT OF GARBAGE RAPPERS. EAST, SOUTH ,NORTH , WEST. NIGGAZ FROM NEW YORK AND ONLY FROM NY IS ALWAYS TALKIN BOUT HIP-HOP. CAN SOMEONE NAME AN MC WHO IS CONSIDERED HIP HOP AFTER 1995. B/C GRANDMASTER FLASH AND THESE OTHER SO CALLED HIP-HOP ARTIST ARE IN THE PAST SO LETS MOVE ON. WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF HIP-HOP. THE SOUTH IS THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO GET BACKLASHED. WEST COAST DOESNT. FUCK YALL PUSSY NIGGAS

Out to lunch....Imma holla back in a few.

But I feel you on that. But I'm not stupid dude... if KSH was less than a plane ride away ( like the next city/boro over)... it would get done. lol
Tell me different.....

To be honest, I have never cheated on my wife. I've had a few close calls but no go. I respect KSH and would consider her a friend. I wouldn't disrespect the legacy I want to leave my kids and my own personal self worth no matter how tempting the bait. If we both become unattached however......

Hold on folks. How can we even feed into this authors angle? This
double standard shit is getting way too out of hand.

So only people from the North can have opinions about the state of Hip-Hop? (and I do mean Opinion)

Only people in the North whose albums don't sale off the charts are still considered "classics" while the souths are considered "flops"?

Why do we divide hip-hop/rap music into regions only to say that one regions brand is not hip-hop/rap music?

DONT GET IT TWISTED THE ONLY REASON YALL(NY BITCHES) CAN SAY YALL STARTED HIP HOP IS BECAUSE YALL WERE BORN IN A CITY OR COAST WHERE A RECORD LABEL WAS IN YOUR BACKYARD. DOWN HERE IN THE SOUTH WE DIDNT HAVE ANY MAJORS THATS WHY THERE IS SO MANY INDEPENDENT ARTIST GETTING PAPER OUT HERE. WE DIDNT HATE WHY YALL WERE ALL OVER MTV AND BET 15 YRS AGO WE JUST ACCEPTED IT SAID YALL WERE DOING YALL THANG. WE DIDNT WANT TO COPY THAT BORING ASS HIPHOP SHIT YALL REPPIN. SO WE DID OUR ON VARIATION OF HOW WE DO IT DOWN HERE NOW THE WHOLE WORLD ON DICK. HATE IT OR LOVE NO MATTER WHAT NY CRITICS SAY WE STILL GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO US. HOLLA HO

As far as the nigger term is concerned...
It isn't as derogatory to our generation becasue we don't hear it in the same context of our elders. I can honestly say that I have never had a white person call me nigger to my face... NEVER. They might have said it when I wasn't around or whatever but never to my face. That being said, its not as bad to me. I know how it made my elders feel but we have to move on and this is our way of moving on. My Nigga is a term of endearment. We have turned that horrible word to mean friend. The older heads don't see this because they still relate it to what they know. White people even calll each other nigger because it has become mainstream just like everything else. There was a time when MTV wouldn't play certain videos.. that day is done. There was a time when gays got no run on T.V..... that time is done. We have revolutioized the term to make it something we can use as a positive. The term faggot is no different. Fags have taken that word and tunred it into a positive. Bitch was a huge no no alsoo and now women call each other bitches just like we call each other nigger as a kind term. Life changes... the world changes... peoples opinion change also according to the times and those who are left behind are usually the one complaining about it. It seems that is the same situation with this North vs SOuth beef. NYC isn't on tiem and the game has gotten ahead of us so now we have to step our game up and catch the fuck up. Simple.

Damn, a month ago, you were saying that SALES dont determine how dope a rapper is....now you're persucuting PIMP for not sellin'...
RECKLESS...ur a hypocritical bitch!

^^^^

U aint lyin bruh, that nigga viewpoint change from day to day. When Busta flopped he said sales didnt matter. Now he sayin they matter with Pimp C. That nigga is the perfect example of a NYC nigga, talkin out both sides of they mouth. Oh yeah nobody in NY wants it with Pimp C.

You know you're gonna bring da stans up here when their blog topic is :

"Cadillac Don & J-Money Drop Peanut Butter and Jelly Video, "Get Ya' Money Right" This Weekend...."

Seems like the south is now gettin into the supermarket business, good for them.

I was on a business trip during the weekend, I saw D4L going crazy at the corner store, them niggas had they note pads out, talking bout how they got enough material for 10 albums, song like Cherry pop, tootsie rolls, Fritos and Lays, I'm tellin yall, Laffy Taffy started a MOVEMENT of its own, lol

For real though, none of the REAL, and TALENTED southern artist say nothing about NYC, cuz they actually got some COMMON fuckin SENS. You never hear this shit from Luda, Face, Kast, TI, Weezy, its always coattail riding, untalented, previously nonselling, and now "BALLING" after 150 000 sold, we have Field Mob, now Pimp C.

What do expect from a guy who says he sticks his dick in a bitch's nose? He thinks its funny, it makes me think he got a small johnson or he's mentally retarded, ... Yo Pimp, try stickin it in her mouth, it feels much better

I love good southside music, its this dumbed down dance music over saturating everything that I hate.

Peace out to all the real niggas, all the Usual Suspects, and welcome to all the Ride or Die Laffy Taffy soldiers.

Real NewYorkers actually like southside music, we respect and enjoy work from people like Kast and Face or Luda to name a few, its these morons like Pimp and others who are fucking everthing up for yall,

That and the music these fools and others like Joc, D4L, DFB, its just foolish to have grown men dancing with gas cans to sell a few records, after all this time and being in the heart of slaveland, yall still sell yourselves for a buck to the white man, its a damn shame, get some education and then talk about music

Pimp c's record company explained to him that the reason he only sold 155K is that nobody North of Oklahoma bought his shit furthermore he sold 12 records in New York City, so he's like Man F*ck them N8ggaz 12 records sold I won't be doing any shows up there so I mine as well bump my gums from the safety of the state of Texas, he knows ain't nobody going down there to smash on his triple wood selling, pistol assualting women, hairline pushed back, baby momma get trains run on her by Dallas Mavericks ass.

@ernest
Yes that is true but but like Ghandi says " you know a system is courpt and you stay in that system than your just like that system"

I don't agree with this "Turning a Neagative" mentality. take for example chitlens. slaves ate that as a savorial technique. But it still doesn't change the fact that its pig intestines. Same thing with the word nigga or nigger. We're not niggers..were black men an women. I dont hear chinese people calling themsleves gooks when they speak to each other. Or White people calling themselves cracker when they talk.

@ernest
Yes that is true but but like Ghandi says " you know a system is courpt and you stay in that system than your just like that system"

I don't agree with this "Turning a Neagative" mentality. take for example chitlens. slaves ate that as a savorial technique. But it still doesn't change the fact that its pig intestines. Same thing with the word nigga or nigger. We're not niggers..were black men an women. I dont hear chinese people calling themsleves gooks when they speak to each other. Or White people calling themselves cracker when they talk.

I KNOW WHY RECKLESS POSTED THIS BLOG!

2 chase the usuals away today and draw in the stans and these stupid ass coons from up top and down bottom fell for it.

Reckless I didn't know you were a master of manipulation but shyt you've just proved me wrong.

2 the usuals like Disrespect said above return to your normal day jobs and let the job-less stans fight and bicker over what region has the top selling artist that isn't doing anything for their community.

FUCK IT I'M OUT!

PEACE!
BROOKLYN STAND UP!

^^^^
NIgga u givin him to much credit. Dont try and make it seem like he doing shit for kicks, when in truth he just flip flops his views on rap to suit whatever topic he wrtiting that particular day

EFrazier: I feel you and I respect that. I have never cheated on hubby. No close calls so I don't know if I would be tempted to do so. I consider you a friend and we know where the line is and neither of us will cross til Louisville or Utah...lol

Lunch time I will be back.

To be honest, I have never cheated on my wife. I've had a few close calls but no go. I respect KSH and would consider her a friend. I wouldn't disrespect the legacy I want to leave my kids and my own personal self worth no matter how tempting the bait. If we both become unattached however......

Posted by: ernest frazier at September 12, 2006 12:02 PM

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And the best actor award goes to.....

lol.

I am just fucking wit you dude. More power to you. I won't get married until I feel that convinced. A lot of people need to follow your lead on that shit. Some dudes would call you a sucker ( the younger ones of course) for turning down pussy but dudes like Magic could have gained alot from turning pussy down.

Oh yeah nobody in NY wants it with Pimp C.

Posted by: EC (zone 4 capo) at September 12, 2006 12:06 PM

LOL THIS NI99A CAN'T BE SERIOUS

ihadnochoice: no way 300lbs - 5'7" 161 and steady declining. But mental sex can be just as interesting as the physical - never better than but just as interesting...lol

Reckless you really need to get a life, trying to get a Pimp C in a blog is a lame as hell. If you know rap music like you say you do then you would know that UGK has been blessing hip hop fans since the early 90's, before the Wu, Jay-Z, and Biggie.

True, hip-hop started in the Bronx but that doesn't mean that any idiot from NY(that means you Reckless) has lordship over hip-hop and has the right to say what is hip-hop and what isn't hip-hop.

Pimp C's is right, NY muthafucka's be hatin on anyone from down south, which everywere but NY. NY is fucked up right now because a snitch got the game on smash and when a real MC step up to him,a NY muthafucka side with the snitch cause he got money dancing and singing for white teenagers, what part of the game is that?

Hell NY niggas is bumping Jim Jones like he Biggie, so get off your soap box cause Jim Jones is wacker than Mike Jones, which is amazingly hard to accomplish but Jim pulls it off. Ballin!!!!

Sohh Reckless, quit hating on the South and get your paper, simple as that. Pimp C is realer than 99.9% of any NY rapper out, ask Jay-Z why he did a song wit UGK, cause real recognize real and you are coming off like a real bitch in this blog.

Niggas getting gansta on blogs is homo anyway cause you know you wouldn't say that shit to Pimp C's face cause he would smack your ass like the bitch you are.

@Truth seeker

Good argument for the other side.

Read ihadnochoice's post to see my side of the argument. I co-sign it completely.

I have to roll for a minute. I'll be in a few hours.

@KSH(blushing), I know you're reading but can't respond. I'll get at you as soon as I can today.

@The rest of the real and the few I've forgotten, Blaze McHerbs, ihadnochoice and TruthSeeker. peace. Too many to name. Try to keep this topic off of the North vs South shit.

I TRULY FEEL BAD FOR NEW YORK BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT YALL JUST PLAIN HATIN!!!
CUZ WHEN YALL WERE ON TOP NONE OF US WAS HATIN ON YALL WERE DOING BUT AS SOON AS WE GOT THA MIC YALL START CRYIN AND SHIT. YALL GO ACROSS THA STREET AND GET A RECORD DEAL WHILE WE DOWN HERE BUSTIN OUR TO GET ONE. SO QUIT CRYIN AND RESPECT OUR HUSTLE CUZ HIP HOP MUSIC IS YALLS DOWN SOUTH MUZIC IS OURS!!! GOD DAMN YANKEES

ihadnochoice: no way 300lbs - 5'7" 161 and steady declining. But mental sex can be just as interesting as the physical - never better than but just as interesting...lol

Posted by: KSH at September 12, 2006 12:12 PM
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Don't take insult to the 300lbs quote. That was generally speaking. 5'7'' 161 .... I like how that sounds. Don't worry E Freeze, I ain't stepping on no toes but maybe KSH has a sister she can ship to me..lol....
I ain't got no attachment... legally at least.

but your sister can't be 300lbs either.lol.
j/k

For real though, none of the REAL, and TALENTED southern artist say nothing about NYC, cuz they actually got some COMMON fuckin SENS. You never hear this shit from Luda, Face, Kast, TI, Weezy, its always coattail riding, untalented, previously nonselling, and now "BALLING" after 150 000 sold, we have Field Mob, now Pimp C.

^^^^
Fool, Pimp C been around since 1992. Niggas like me in the south grew up on UGK. And Pimp been ballin, he really was the beat maker of the group and we all know the beat makers are the ones who get the real paper, not the rappers. But I forgot yall up north niggas couldnt get any money out the rap game if yall lives depended on it. So you might not know that. Pimp C may not be the best lryicist on the mic, but thats all good, he talk that gutta shit that niggas like to hear. And he is a legend fuc what yall think. Pimp C is rap royalty to not just niggas in Texas, but ATL, New Orleans, Miami, all over the south.

I won't get married until I feel that convinced. A lot of people need to follow your lead on that shit. Some dudes would call you a sucker ( the younger ones of course) for turning down pussy but dudes like Magic could have gained alot from turning pussy down.

Posted by: ihadno at September 12, 2006 12:11 PM

LMAO - Thats Real Talk especially the shyt about Magic

@ Jerzy Boi

You wanna tell me who bringin NY back again? Im still waitin on a contender...like Chapelle say, " tough break nigga, there's always FUBU!"

Tuck that in your fitted....

@ atl red

if you were referring to me about that "ugk was unheard of before big pimpin" remark, go reread my comment dumbass. i said nothing like that.

TO ALL IN THE NYC WHO HAVE NEVER JAMMED A Z-RO ALBUM PLEEEASSSEEE DO SO: GET AS MANY AS YOU CAN AND THEY WILL NEVER LEAVE YOUR DECK. LISTEN TO ONE, YOU WILL SHED TEARS, YOU WILL GET AG, ALL OF THE ABOVE, THE BEST EVER, I WILL SAY IT RIGHT NOW

htownmike is going on the record stating that z-ro is better than biggie, pac, and jay-z... before you curse my name you need to listen to him so you can fairly argue if you disagree.

FREE PIMP C, THATZ WHY HIS CD DIDNT SELL BECAUSE WAS GETTIN FREE PIMP C CDS. ON THE REAL, NOW THAT HE IS FREE, WE SEE EVEN LESS OF HIM, THEN WHEN HE WAS ON LOCK!! NIGGA IS TRASH, JAY BREATHED SOME LIGHT ON THESE NO FRILLS, NON-EXISTANT NIGGAZ, NOW THEY THINK THEY LEGENDS...JUST CUZ U BEEN NOT SELLING FOR YEARS, DONT MEAN U AN UNDERGROUND LEGEND, AND I DONT WANNA HEAR ABOUT HOW MANY JOINTS U SOLD OUT THE BACK OF YA TRUNK...U DOUBLE PLAT OUT THE TRUNNK, WHILE CHUNKIN THE DEUCE! YEAH OKAY!! THEN MY NAME IS SCOOBIE DOO!!

IF U DOUBLE PLAT OUT THE TRUNK. THEN WHY U CREEPIN ABOVE GROUND TO LOOK LIKE A FOL ON THE BILLBOARD??!!
ANSWER IS: THAT OUT THE TRUNK SHIT IS A MYTH...THESE MOTHERFUCKERS TELL THAT TO RECORD COMPANIES TO GET THE DEAL...I SOLD 10,000 OUT THE TRUNK, NO NIGGA, YOU SOLD 10 COPIES OUT THE TRUNK, STARVED AND ATE PORK AND BEANS FOR WEEKS UNTIL YOU ANGENT/BABY MAMA SET UP THE INTERVIEW WITH THE RECORD LABEL....WIMP C AZZ NIGGA!!

LOL I CANT BELIEVE NIGGAS IS STILL ON THIS BLOG! THIS ISH IS CRAZEY! PIMP C NEEDS TO GO SOMEWHERE! WAIT THATS RITE HE ISNT NOWHERE IN HIP HOP AREA GETTIN MONEY RITE NOW! HE KNOS THIS IS GONNA PROLLY GET HIM SOME PAPER! FUCK THAT WACK ASS COUNTRY ASS TRYNNA B SOMEBODY ASS!

=TAH=

Posted by: ihadno at September 12, 2006 12:11 PM

LMAO - Thats Real Talk especially the shyt about Magic

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What even funnier is that nigga has been walking around with that shit for 16 years and he is healthier than everybody on this godamn blog.

@WIMP C

THATS HELLA FUNNY! MULTI PLAT. OUTTA UR TRUNK!! IM LOVIN IT

Oh yeah nobody in NY wants it with Pimp C.

Posted by: EC (zone 4 capo) at September 12, 2006 12:06 PM

LOL THIS NI99A CAN'T BE SERIOUS

^^^^
Oh yes, Im very serious. Pimp C's gangster is certified, Pimp dont have to pull stunts like Busta. He may not be the best on the mic, but Pimp be on the gutta shit, thats why we like him in the south. He been talkin about Coke, rims, hoes, and drama for like 13 years now. He never changed his style, he been rappin bout the same shit since he came out. Unlike some other niggas I know.............
Pimp C is one of the few real niggas in the rap game, I cant say the same for them other cats.

PIMP C SPOKE THE REAL AND IT'S ILLUSTRATED IN THIS POST.

YALL EAST COAST FUKS AINT GOIN TO SCHOOL...ITS THEM WHITE FOLKS UP THERE...YALL MUTHAFUKAS CAN BARELY AFFORD YA BROWNSTONE APT LET ALONE COLLEGE....

THAT LIL NORTHERN ACCENT DON'T MEAN YOU'RE SMART....I'VE LIVED ON YOUR SIDE AND KNOWN PLENTY OF YOU DUMB FUKS AND IT'S HILLARIOUS THAT THIS CLOWN WOULD MAKE SOME EDUCATIONAL INSINUATIONS.

STEP YA WACK ASS GAMES UP AND YOU MIGHT GET A GOLD PLAQUE OUTTA SOMEBODY OUT THERE......

We can all agree to disagree as long as NYC stop hatin and focus more on they craft and their artist and stop talkin down on us.

Pimp C allways said that this aint yall hiphop that we do down here, it's "country rap tunes" lol. i don't know if i agree with the name but we dont make that "hiphop" yall talk about, we make what our legends like 8ball and MJG and scarface and UGK put out.

We all are part of the hiphop culture,we just rap different. we got alot of sub-genres down here that yall dont understand or care to understand, like snap, and crunk and screw.

So basically, new york style of hiphop might be dead, but ours is alive and kickin. Everybody can get along if NYers stop worring about the charts, stop with the crab in a bucket syndrome and just do them.

oh yeah.....TEXAS STAND UP!!

@EC (zone 4 capo)

I UNDERSTAND WHERE U COMMIN FROM! BUT MOST OF THESE RAPPERS TOLD THEIR LIFE STORY IN 2 ALBUMS! EVERY1 HEARD THE ISH ALREADY! THAT IS Y THEY MAKE RECORDS ABOUT THE PAPER THEY GET! "B-N-REAL" DOESNT CUT IT ANYMORE! WHICH IS BAD! BUT IM SAYIN HE DONT NEED TO DISRESPECT!

=TAH=

LMAO - Thats Real Talk especially the shyt about Magic

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What even funnier is that nigga has been walking around with that shit for 16 years and he is healthier than everybody on this godamn blog.

Posted by: ihadnochoice at September 12, 2006 12:25 PM

LOLOLOL YO U A WILD DUDE SON BUT THATS SOME FUNNY SHYT

DONT GET IT TWISTED THE ONLY REASON YALL(NY BITCHES) CAN SAY YALL STARTED HIP HOP IS BECAUSE YALL WERE BORN IN A CITY OR COAST WHERE A RECORD LABEL WAS IN YOUR BACKYARD. Posted by: Anonymous at September 12, 2006 12:05 PM

This is what were talking about you don't know hip hop. It started in the streets with break beats, dj's then they started grabbing the mic amping the crowds up then they were rhyming and battling eachother. Record lables in our backyard man. Hip hop was not excepted for the longest time white america said it's a fade, it's not music it will pass. Record lables weren't buying it causing people like Russell and Rick to do it on thier own and it wasn't till Run DMC making main stream which cause other record co to start paying attension. Even then you couldn't really hear it on day time radio. THey had time slots like the DJ red alert show. So you don't think NYC was grinding or struggling they did it so that you can enjoy hip hop today. THey did all the hard work for you. So stop complaining cause your artist go to NYC and eat too.

@ihadnochoice

I hear what your saying in regaurds to "nigga" but you gotta understand that there is a power in speech. Think about like this...I believe 98% of all physical altercations happen after words are exchange.

SO this means a person's thoughts turned into words got you so hot that you came to blows.

So this shows you that words hold power. They can motivate an educate. Think about it, why was Malcolm X or Dr. King killed? They never shot nobody. They were just talking. But the Gov new that they're words were making people start to think and say to themselves" hey maybe I'm not less of a person because of my skin color".

See when we accept the word "NIGGA" knowing its orgin an the history behind it, all we're doing is giving the green light to other people from different races to use that word. For example K-Feds an a few other crony white rappers.

If you really want to talk about a term of endearment try " man" thats the most endearing term that you can use when address another person.

htownmike is going on the record stating that z-ro is better than biggie, pac, and jay-z... before you curse my name you need to listen to him so you can fairly argue if you disagree.

Posted by: htownmike at September 12, 2006 12:24 PM
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See... saying outlandish shit like that is why people don't respect yall. I heard Z-ro before and he is aight but no where near legendary status of the names you shitted on. He ain't better than Face, Luda or Game for that matter just in case you think I am hating on your region. You need a body of work to go against these dudes. We hold Jay Z in high regard because he really came out every summer for like 6 or 7 years and never flopped. He is consistent ans consistency is the hardest part of this rap shit. I am not shitting on Z-Ro but you make him look rediculous when you put him on a pedestal like that.

PIMP C SPOKE THE REAL AND IT'S ILLUSTRATED IN THIS POST.

YALL EAST COAST FUKS AINT GOIN TO SCHOOL...ITS THEM WHITE FOLKS UP THERE...YALL MUTHAFUKAS CAN BARELY AFFORD YA BROWNSTONE APT LET ALONE COLLEGE....

THAT LIL NORTHERN ACCENT DON'T MEAN YOU'RE SMART....I'VE LIVED ON YOUR SIDE AND KNOWN PLENTY OF YOU DUMB FUKS AND IT'S HILLARIOUS THAT THIS CLOWN WOULD MAKE SOME EDUCATIONAL INSINUATIONS.

STEP YA WACK ASS GAMES UP AND YOU MIGHT GET A GOLD PLAQUE OUTTA SOMEBODY OUT THERE......

Posted by: SCOTTIE PIMPIN at September 12, 2006 12:27 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THE REASON Y PPL CANT AFFORD THEIR BROWNSTONES IS BCUZ ITS EXPENSIVE 2 LIVE IN NY! IT DOESNT MATTER WHERE U LIVE IN NY ITS EXPENSIVE EITHER WAY! SO DONT TALK ABOUT SOMETHIN U DONT KNO!
MOST SCHOOLS IN NY R BETTER THAN SCHOOLS IN THE SOUTH! I KNO THIS FROM EXPERIENCE CUZ I LIVED IN NY FOR MOST OF MY LIFE AND NOW I LIVE IN ATL! ((IM IN SCHOOL RITE NOW))!

G3T IT RITE
=TAH=

Posted by: EC (zone 4 capo) at September 12, 2006 12:26 PM

OH SHYT I'M GETTING ATTACKED BY NORTH VS. SOUTH STANS.

Let me get back to work...unlike alot of the bufoons on this blog I have a job to attend to. Lata hatas

BYE XCLUSICE BK DUDE

=TAH=

peace to all the usual suspects.its a lot of ignorant statements comming from both sides.fuck disrespecting each other and the region we live in.its about the music.let the music speak for itself.in this case pimp c is hot trash.all i care about is the music.good music.one.oh yeah if that lupe gets pushed back again im gonna go buy fergies album.

IM OUT! HOLLA 2MORROW

=TAH=

"Chicken noodle soup, with a soda on the side."

Are you fucking kidding? Do you niggas really eat that shit in Harlem?
If so, is that shit really that good that you would make a song and dance about it?

They play that shit down here and we accept it as some of the weak shit that the East Coast is capable of producing, just like any other coast. But, that one fuck up doesn't speak for the whole East Coast. So don't let the so called "bubble gum" shit you here from the South, be your total perception.

" Don't Mess With Texas. "

I TRULY FEEL BAD FOR NEW YORK BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT YALL JUST PLAIN HATIN!!!
CUZ WHEN YALL WERE ON TOP NONE OF US WAS HATIN ON YALL WERE DOING BUT AS SOON AS WE GOT THA MIC YALL START CRYIN AND SHIT. YALL GO ACROSS THA STREET AND GET A RECORD DEAL WHILE WE DOWN HERE BUSTIN OUR ASS TO GET A RECORD DEAL. SO QUIT CRYIN AND RESPECT OUR HUSTLE CUZ HIP HOP MUSIC IS YALLS DOWN SOUTH MUZIC IS OURS!!! GOD DAMN YANKEES

@ Jerzy Boi

You wanna tell me who bringin NY back again? Im still waitin on a contender...like Chapelle say, " tough break nigga, there's always FUBU!"

Tuck that in your fitted....

Posted by: ATL RED at September 12, 2006 12:23 PM

You want to tell me who is killing it? It's funny how you reference fashion when your wearing it as you speak. Contender? We have many which way you wanna go. Who you have maybe 2 real contenders. LUDA & TI What else you have a bunch of nursery rhyming, teeny bopping dancing grown men. Will show you the real art of dancing breaking but your not coordinated enogh. LEAN WITH IT ROCK WITH IT! HAHHAHHAHAHAHHA

@EC (zone 4 capo)

I UNDERSTAND WHERE U COMMIN FROM! BUT MOST OF THESE RAPPERS TOLD THEIR LIFE STORY IN 2 ALBUMS! EVERY1 HEARD THE ISH ALREADY! THAT IS Y THEY MAKE RECORDS ABOUT THE PAPER THEY GET! "B-N-REAL" DOESNT CUT IT ANYMORE! WHICH IS BAD! BUT IM SAYIN HE DONT NEED TO DISRESPECT!

=TAH=

^^^^
Thats obviously were the north and the south differ. Pimp C can do that shit cuz we like hearin niggas talk about slangin packs and shit like that. Thats why we got niggas like Jeezy, LO, Slick Pulla, Mr. Biggs ( yall dont know bout them last three) who just rap about trappin. Bieng real may not cut it to yall, but gutta music will always ride in the south. We more into the beats than yall anyway, so if a nigga just really talkin gutta about trappin over a hot beat that shit gonna ride in niggas cd players

Posted by: TruthSeeker at September 12, 2006 12:30 PM

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I feel you Truth but part of getting over all of that is moving on. White people know the kind of reaction they would get if they called us nigger. They know. They run the fucking world so give em credit for knowing better. It basically pop culture to call each other nigger. I am not co-signbing it or tearing it down but that just the way it is. I know I use the term amongst my homies but I know when to use it and when not to. I don't call the blacks at my job nigga and I don't use it in public setting because I know other people might get offended but I use it for what I want it to be... not for what society says it is or thinks it should be. That just how I feel about it but I know exactly where you are coming from. I really don't think that the use of the term will die down because this generation isn't hurt by the term...

Mr. Prez writes:

This shit gotta end, thats slow ABC style is the way of they culture out there, and big time lyricist and fresh metephors and mean bars is our style. We ain't gonna change to they style and they not gonna switch to ours... Let's just agree to disagree on this. It's just two different ways of life. We spit like NFL games, we want every flow to shut down the game, to take the belt with every bar. They wanna celebrate a whole other style of shit, like grills and rims. It's more of a party scene and good weather.... Shit is just different, and bothe styles is whats really good for the game. The same labels sign us all and collect checks. TI, Kanye, and Maino are on the same label... That's ATL, The Chi & Brooklyn, whats the big deal...

(A label like most labels which happens to be in NY)
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Thats what I'm saying........I think East Coast Rappers are just mad cause when they had the ball they wasn't scorin, and now that the South got it, they scorin like crazy!!!!! It's true that the South BEEN jackin the East Coasts Flavor, I saw it first hand when I was in the Army.........LMAO. I had friends from Alabama, Georgia, and Florida etc. Them dudes would be laughin when I would wear the Tim's with the shorts, and didn't know SHIT ABOUT "UPTOWNS", yea UPTOWNS, not AF's.
Like homeboy was saying though, I also think these different "genres" are good for the game, the thing is that everyone is trying to eat off the same plate and everybody is being some greedy ass fuckin pigs.
Did any off you posting even listen to HipHop before it was Big Business?? Emcees use to do it for the love of it, sure they was getting payed, but they loved what they did and was groundbreaking and artistic with it, you could feel it in their music and lyrics. The problem nowadys is that "The Man" has found another way to exploit our culture and run the oldest trick in the book on us for the millionth fucking time(divide and conquer), and once again we take the bait. We aren't going to have any quality music until these niggas stop selling they fucking souls for a contract.

@Banga

If you see this, I got what you need.

What's your e-mail address??

Hip Hop is dead

Long live gutta music

"Cuz Im the man, got no wife, but the white be my girlfriend"

Shawty LO- the real bankhead king

First off Pimp c also said that grillz were popular in the NY in the 80's just like my ncle always said.

Its fucked up that you attack one of our fore fathers in this rap shit. You and your region get rid of your petty ass egos cause that aint enuff. Pimp is standing up for his coast cause just like yall did with the west, yall just hate and call niggaz country for no apparent reason except we hot and we different.

If someone wouldve came sideways about krs one or rakim you would have a heart attack. SO SHOW THE SAME AMOUNT OF FUCKIN RESPECT TO OUR PIONEERS

Yall can have this dumb East vs south crap
i respected Pimp C till this stupid ish
he was biggin up Htown which was cool
even was trying to unite and squash all the Htown Beef even though I don't feel his methods that was cool. But this was a corney move.
Do your thing and make money stay focused on Htown don't worry about the east you got your own sales to worry about, handle your Business. Be happy your out of Jail and making money and able to enjoy your hometowns rise to the throne! And never forget the east embraced you on Big Pimpin and if you look in the shootout section of alot of east coast artist the constantly give UGK recognition. We all Black this sht is dumb ain't we divided enough
fk this NY is this way and South is that way. Its should be able good vs Bad music thats it thats all.

Now for all Die Hard Hip-Hop fans
I got Boot Camps New Album The last Stand and its ill
but you'll need to bump it in your headphones to get the full effect.

@Disrespect
2 things
Did you cop budden

And I'm pretty sure the rest of the usuals are not interested in another corney East vs South blog
the shts corney and full of a bunch dumb ngz from both the north and south that don't know what the fk their talkin about.

We more into the beats than yall anyway, so if a nigga just really talkin gutta about trappin over a hot beat that shit gonna ride in niggas cd players

Posted by: EC (zone 4 capo) at September 12, 2006 12:40 PM

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More into beats than us ???
What the fuck are you talking about.
Yall make beats on Casio keyboards. We sample haevy up here and that just a testament to our musical knowledge outside of hip hop. Yall got the bass down pact but thats about it.

Bottomline is the truth hurts... u salty ...like most New Yorkers...because someone other than u is making the come-up..But thats the mentality up there...Yall do wanna start a war...Between Kay "65y.o" Slay trying to start imaginary beefs...to you writing this wack blog...

We need to quit slicing each other throats and make this money...

Jealously is a female trait...MAN UP!

Did any off you posting even listen to HipHop before it was Big Business?? Emcees use to do it for the love of it, sure they was getting payed, but they loved what they did and was groundbreaking and artistic with it, you could feel it in their music and lyrics. The problem nowadys is that "The Man" has found another way to exploit our culture and run the oldest trick in the book on us for the millionth fucking time(divide and conquer), and once again we take the bait. We aren't going to have any quality music until these niggas stop selling they fucking souls for a contract.

Posted by: The Dude at September 12, 2006 12:42 PM

@DUde

Well said I co-sign. Hip Hop has been buttfucked by corporate america. Man I was on Def Jam and saw some chick named Lady Sovereign a white chick with braids I was like WTF. So I said let me just listen to her straaaaaaaaaight garbage. BUt I see where there going with her. Back in the day she would of never made it on Def Jam.

@Banga

I got what you need!

First of all I am not from the south or the east coast....

But, what's real is real....

The south is runnin shit right now...
There is alot of bull shit in rotation right now....North, South, East, West & Mid-West... Anytime you let these crackers in on the game they gone try to exploit it and milk it for what it's worth....For every wack ass south song like D4L's laffy taffy there is a wack ass east coast song like Jibbs chain hang low...

We all know that hip-hop started in the east.... That don't make ya'll the only ones that rap and that don't make ya'll the best....Basketball was started by a white man in Indiana, but ain't no cracker gone beat a nigga hoopin...LET IT GO....

Sales don't mean shit... Just cause a nigga goes platinum that don't make him hott shit.... Most sales come from white kids in the burbs...And niggas in the hood is bootlegging like crazy in these times.... The streets and only the streets determines what's hott shit.....

Pimp C is just speaking his mind....
You don't have to agree with him, but at least respect his openion....

Pimp C is a legend just like KRS One, been around for a while, made some classic 5-mic shit.... The Pimpalation is cool, but it's not all that, but neither was Yayo's shit, Mobb Deep's shit or even Busta's shit...

It's a circle and east coast is gonna be on top again... They got alot of young niggas thats ready, Papoose, Maino, & Black Hand....

I love this hip-hop shit, but we are all the ones responsible for killin it, by lettin these crackers in on "our" thing.... Devide & Conquor...

Let Hip-Hop live so that we can pass it onto our kids and they can pass it to they kids...Don't participate in bashing the east coast and don't hate on the south...Diferent strokes for diferent folks....It's enuff money for everybody....

God Bless This Rap Shit!!!!

just like yall did with the west, yall just hate and call niggaz country for no apparent reason except we hot and we different.

Posted by: Blaze at September 12, 2006 12:44 PM

What are you talking about the east loved NWA, DRe, Snoop, ICe T, CYpress HIll and so on. Hell I like LUda and TI. If the music is hot it's hot no matter where it came from but the nursery rhyme, dancing stuff with no content is ridiculus. Everyone is trying to do it now and corporate america is taking it programming it into your head and running with it

niggas hatin on tha south man.........mo money mo problems is what im thinkin...who ever wrote this blog is dumb as hell....it aint all about records sells to get money man....when you doin shows and hittin tha road thats when u get recognized...i done seen pimp c on rap city twice already and his shyt aint tha best sellin album out........nigga tha south runnin this shyt and i got luv for NY i fucc wit Jay and Jim Jones all them niggas but truth be told tha CROWN WIT US RIGHT NOW......THA NIGGA LIL WAYNE HOLDIN US DOWN.......

@Banga

I got what you need!

Posted by: willyjsimmons at September 12, 2006 12:49 PM

Yo should be able to click on my name and view my email address
Im at work so I can't check it till later though

true enough tha south make sum wack shyt cuz some of tha shyt is WACK....DONT FUCC WIT THA LAFFY TAFFY SHYT.....but we got niggas spittin some shyt......LIL WEEZY, T.I, LUDA, RICK ROSS, JEEZY.........nigga all NY SHYT AINT HOT....DMX shyt was wack, 50 shyt was wack, Yayo shyt was a joke, Banks is a flop in tha making, Young Buck gone hold it down for them and he from tha south...wake up nigga Busta to fuccin animated just like JAy said....We need this nigga to drop an album JAY IS THAT NIGGA

I truly wish i could slap every last m'phucka that say hiphop is dead. refer 2 my last post for enlightenment.

Texas Stand Up!!

Southern hiphop is alive, and she fine than a mug

This shit i crazy g, i mean to be honest i dont even know where all the fucking animosty came from the south blew up and all a sudden niggas in New York talking down, but before the south was poppin new york niggas had nothin but love, you niggas is clown for that very reason some of yall niggas is cool and i got love for yall still after the bullshit yall pulled. New york tried to pull that shit with the westcoast when they was poppin yall niggas is doing some serious ego trippin!

Posted by: sizzle at September 12, 2006 01:03 PM

R.I.P HIP-HOP

After 25 Years of Greatness...
1979-2004

___________________

And you ain't slappin' shyt lil ni99a

This is southern face it.. If we too simple then ya'll don't get the basics!

~Weezy F. Baby~

true enough tha south make sum wack shyt cuz some of tha shyt is WACK....DONT FUCC WIT THA LAFFY TAFFY SHYT.....but we got niggas spittin some shyt......LIL WEEZY, T.I, LUDA, RICK ROSS, JEEZY.........nigga all NY SHYT AINT HOT....DMX shyt was wack, 50 shyt was wack, Yayo shyt was a joke, Banks is a flop in tha making, Young Buck gone hold it down for them and he from tha south...wake up nigga Busta to fuccin animated just like JAy said....We need this nigga to drop an album JAY IS THAT NIGGA

Posted by: J-Dubb at September 12, 2006 01:00 PM

Na Llyod is holding G unit. Whether you want believe it or not 50 isn't whack he's just lazy and has no love for hip hop anymore. His first album and mixtapes prior was fire. I couldn't go down the street without hearing his album in someone's ride. DMX is still that dude but the album wasn't that good agreed. Busta animated? Those day's are over check the new Busta it's fire even though it isn't selling how it should. Jay dropping an album is not going to solve all the bullshit that has been going on with hip hop. I can't believe you would say Rick Ross is a real contender. That dude is garbage but the album does have some fire beats that I will admit

truly wish i could slap every last m'phucka that say hiphop is dead. refer 2 my last post for enlightenment.

Posted by: sizzle at September 12, 2006 01:03 PM

You sound like a complete ass. I'm sure Texas wouldn't stand behind you with that dumb ass comment

@Xclusive BK Dude

arguing with a inter-thug is like a special olympics race. no matter who whens ur still retarded.

HipHop, she moved down south and got thick. luv ya baby

Texas stand up!!

Dam yall still bugging about this shit.

I will holla back when somebody goes off topic. LOL

shits crazy

This is southern face it.. If we too simple then ya'll don't get the basics!

~Weezy F. Baby~

Posted by: nolachic at September 12, 2006 01:11 PM

Sorry! Weezy don't represent the majority of the garbage gimmicks comming from the south. Weezy is definitly a good look for you guys.

and i guess Chicken Noodle Soup is Hot!@Eastcoast niggas

We all know that hip-hop started in the east.... That don't make ya'll the only ones that rap and that don't make ya'll the best....Basketball was started by a white man in Indiana, but ain't no cracker gone beat a nigga hoopin...LET IT GO....

Sales don't mean shit... Just cause a nigga goes platinum that don't make him hott shit.... Most sales come from white kids in the burbs...And niggas in the hood is bootlegging like crazy in these times.... The streets and only the streets determines what's hott shit.....

Posted by: Real_Shit at September 12, 2006 12:51 PM

A gem! co-sign

I checked in for a little while as I'm researching my shit and this hit summed up this entire stupid, east vs south shit.

Posted by: Huey Freeman at September 12, 2006 12:53 PM

Here's another one. Read that thread and feel it.

Peep Cube on "Child Support". That track sums up this entire era of hip hop. Some of you little punks that don't check for the "older rappers" need to get up and cop that Ice Cube shit. It might wake your little asses up.

Here's a sample

All y'all rappers should kiss and make up
take your bullshit jewlry back to Jacob
get your mind right nigga
and start to wake up
cause the whole rap industry needs to shake up
you got million dollar niggaz killin' million dollar niggaz
bustin' outta Bentleys
wearin' chinchillasss
there you go again rollin' in your limo
comin' from the Grammy's shootin' out the window
I know the scripture
but there's something wrong with this picture
what you mad about
diamonds all in your mouth
no car, no niggaz house paid off
I never heard of a rapper gettin' laid off
boy, you a fool
or you just act crazy
or you a grown crack baby born in the 80's
to all you motherfuckers say I went Hollywood
I'm gangsta!
I know when I got it good

Peace to usuals.

If we research the term "hip hop" you'll see that it flourished in the 80's to mid 90's. Whithin that time frame hip hop entailed a # of mc's who were crafty on the mic & lyrically aesthetic... (And yes even the south had lyricists back then). Now as idiotic as we might think Pimp C sounds in that statement he does have some valid reasons. In a recent interview with allhiphop.com he expressed the same views about NY rap, but his beef is with NY rappers disliking the south. He talked about how he was inspired by Big Daddy Kane along with Run DMC. Then his most noteworthy comment was that swangin music is a hybrid of hip hop. He's basically saying he's fine with south music not being regarded as true hip hop because the south culture cannot be compared to Ny's culture. So it's asenine to think crunk, snap, swanging music is hip hop (It's an offspring!!). I grew up off hip hop in the late 80's & 90's & I'm not blind to see that this era may never reign again. That's why I agree with Nas & others that say hip hop is dead. Its '06, so we all have to take it for what it is because hip hop has evolved into a new format...So enough with the bickering because nobody is putting a gun to your head & forcing you take sides on what form of hip hop to listen to.

JAY-Z SAID UGK IS HIS FAVORITE GROUP OF ALL TIME
JAY-Z SAID UGK IS HIS FAVORITE GROUP OF ALL TIME
JAY-Z SAID UGK IS HIS FAVORITE GROUP OF ALL TIME
JAY-Z SAID UGK IS HIS FAVORITE GROUP OF ALL TIME
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JAY-Z SAID UGK IS HIS FAVORITE GROUP OF ALL TIME
JAY-Z SAID UGK IS HIS FAVORITE GROUP OF ALL TIME
JAY-Z SAID UGK IS HIS FAVORITE GROUP OF ALL TIME
JAY-Z SAID UGK IS HIS FAVORITE GROUP OF ALL TIME
JAY-Z SAID UGK IS HIS FAVORITE GROUP OF ALL TIME
JAY-Z SAID UGK IS HIS FAVORITE GROUP OF ALL TIME
JAY-Z SAID UGK IS HIS FAVORITE GROUP OF ALL TIME
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JAY-Z SAID UGK IS HIS FAVORITE GROUP OF ALL TIME
JAY-Z SAID UGK IS HIS FAVORITE GROUP OF ALL TIME
JAY-Z SAID UGK IS HIS FAVORITE GROUP OF ALL TIME

All yall wack...

Long live Rock and Roll dude !!!!

@KSH

I left the topic change out there but only two niggas 4 niggas joined it. It's a lost cause today. I'm waiting for someone besides the 3 that did to answer my question.

"What is your price to sell out? How far would you go before you wake up and realize you're being used".

Why do niggas keep begging Jay-Z to drop an album? Does that really mean the East will be ressurected, or do you guys plan on riding Jay's coat tail? Don't get me wrong, I'm waiting for Jay to drop an album. I just don't see how he can revive the rap game alone. I think the same energy used by the ones complaining, should be channeled into creating some hot shit in the booth.

Another note, Jay reached out to UGK for Big Pimpin', because of the concept of the song and he recognized UGK as legends down here. Hence, making sales below the Mason-Dixon. Pimp C didn't want to fuck with it at first simply for the lack of respect for the South by certain East Coast rappers. It's simple, "Real Recognized Trill".

"Don't Mess With Texas!"..........Unless you talking about making money.

okay some pople from the south make wak stuff. BUT PEOPLE FROM THE NORTH DO TOO.

the east coast lost every battle they participated in. to me, yall lost when death row came to the source awards and clowned new york on stage and on national tv - and yall let them leave safely.

now yall goin thru the samething with the south, and yall gone lose this one too.

maybe its not everybody from the east that has a problem with the south. but the few who do - the niggas yall praise lost before, and yall bout to lose it again.

rap shit since the 70's? thats the point you shouldve left out. cuz yall icons damn near 40.

like tupac said

" all u old rappers trine to advance, its all over now take it like a man, niggas lookin like larry holmes flabby and sick, trine to PLAYA HATE on my shit eat a fat DICK

and i guess Chicken Noodle Soup is Hot!@Eastcoast niggas

Posted by: Shiesty_G at September 12, 2006 01:26 PM

Your starting to sound repetitious. Here it goes again. First have you seen the video? These are children. Next who do we see with the no brainer dances in your video? Give up, Grown ass men. Might I also add you have plenty of no brainer dances the only fuel you have is one Chicken Noodle soup song which was created in the southern nursery dancing rhyme dominance. Hey, if garbage is selling why not jump on the bandwagon. Let's do toasted bread with some butter and sugar on the side. Man I should call diddy and have Yung Joc do it. I'm sure corporate america will eat it up.
NEXT?

He represents the south regardless!
He takes offense to the comments as well if he didn't he wouldn't have made the song!

It amazes me how much energy we put into who has the best rhymes and metaphors and who's music has substance...If you need enlightment read a book.. go to the library and educate yourself.. stop lookin for RAP to broaden your horizons.. while we fighting over this shit them white folks is out there getting money merging large companies to make larger ones!I mean some serious wealth..
Not hood rich..im talking about the person who signs off on Jay-Z's checks!

Man get monry!

sorry if any typos

I'm not going to speak for the East v. South, but I will speak for the NYC v. ATL.

Look, Black people in ATL are doing so much better than Black people in NYC. We are more educated, living in bigger beautiful homes, we actually own cars, AND Black people from all over are attracted to our city and not yours...

You assholes can't even afford to live in your city anymore, Bloomberg is getting rid of each and every last one of your Black Caribbean accent having asses. And when you arrogant (for no reason) assholes do get pushed out, where do you end up?

Down here in ATL wearing your fucking Timberlands with shorts on 105 degree days in the summers wondering how Black people from all over and native Atlantans, have acquired more wealth than you ever will while you were paying 1000 dollars a month living in a 10x12 box somewhere in Brooklyn with your family of 8.

Give it up NYC, I know it's hard to admit, but we have all come to realize that when it comes to places for Black people to be, you suck ass, and Atlanta doesn't.

Listening to Outkast as the highest selling Hip-Hop group, not to mention profoundest as well (oh and best, yes factoring in a bunch of senior citizens from Staten Island), of all time is only a bonus.

In closing fuck the five boroughs (well, more like four seeing how your Black asses can't afford to live in Manhattan and Harlem is about to be Columbia University's picnic area) and Metro Area ATL stand the fuck up. Trick ass hos...

EFrazier:
I can't be sold baby. When I come up I gotta reach down and lend a hand to those that wanna come up for more than the bling and the fines cars.

Shit niccas do forget real quick where they came from; they will rap about it and put it in a video but are they investing real dollars in the community that raised them.

I understand that all people ain't made that way but all the shit they speak about "anybody can do it" can be a load of bull. It ain't that easy and every black man don't wanna rap or play sports.

I think Bob Johnson did a big diservice b/c really how much money does one man need. I mean you making money on top of money and it is okay to enjoy your money but you gotta get on an Oprah type level for me to know that you really mean what you say.

HaHa Fuck you the The South goin the east just like the West Coast did cause yall too fuckin bigheaded to know you're shit is played out and worse off without other coast support.
Wanta Beyotch about the dances the south do what you need to look at is that chicken noodle soup shit, thats some embarassin shit that come str8 outa NY so fuck outa here with that shit respect the pimp bitches

okay some pople from the south make wak stuff. BUT PEOPLE FROM THE NORTH DO TOO.

the east coast lost every battle they participated in. to me, yall lost when death row came to the source awards and clowned new york on stage and on national tv - and yall let them leave safely.

now yall goin thru the samething with the south, and yall gone lose this one too.

maybe its not everybody from the east that has a problem with the south. but the few who do - the niggas yall praise lost before, and yall bout to lose it again.

rap shit since the 70's? thats the point you shouldve left out. cuz yall icons damn near 40.

like tupac said

" all u old rappers trine to advance, its all over now take it like a man, niggas lookin like larry holmes flabby and sick, trine to PLAYA HATE on my shit eat a fat DICK

REAL SHIT

Did any off you posting even listen to HipHop before it was Big Business?? Emcees use to do it for the love of it, sure they was getting payed, but they loved what they did and was groundbreaking and artistic with it, you could feel it in their music and lyrics. The problem nowadys is that "The Man" has found another way to exploit our culture and run the oldest trick in the book on us for the millionth fucking time(divide and conquer), and once again we take the bait. We aren't going to have any quality music until these niggas stop selling they fucking souls for a contract.

Posted by: The Dude at September 12, 2006 12:42 PM

I wanted to answer this. I agree with it totally. Rube Foster founded the first Negro League in 1920. It was completely independent, black owned and black run. It was supported by black bankers, black fans and employed all black workers. He ran the league and his vision was to integrate an all black team into the majors. He never realized his dream because the white agents didn't only want the teams, they wanted control of the league. He eventually died and the league folded. The Negro leagues as we know it was founded a few years later by white agents. All of the social progress made in our community was non existent with the new Negro league. All of the money funneled away from the black community to white ownerships, business and interests. Eventually, they acheived their goal of folding the entire league thus sapping any possibility of blacks gaining any financial advantage from baseball except the players themselves. We continue to trust them because of some desire that we have to rise to the bar they have set for themselves, but every time we gain ground, they change the game. We need to be aware of history because it's the only way to change it. The white media did make Big and Pac bigger than what it was. The people that run The Source and other entertainment magazines only care about the story, fuck the consequences. It sold magazines plain and simple. Like Cube said at the beginning of Straight Out of Compton 18 yrs ago, "When something fucked up happens in SC LA, nothing happens, it's just another nigga dead". It's the same everywhere. Keep whites out of your shit, take the hit financially but press towards the higher mark. In the end, your reward is your self respect, fuck a dollar.

@NYC Ain't Shiiiiiit...

NYC IS A VERY COMPETITIVE AND EDUCATED DRIVEN CITY. SO THE STRONG WILL SURVIVE AND THE BIRDS WILL FLY SOUTH WITH THE REST OF YOU.

On the real...All rap is bullshit right now. I'm not impressed by anyone comin outta the South, East, or West. All these niggaz who are "on", are making bullshit- straight up.
www.myspace.com/kidsyc

damn my money lookin good right now.

EFrazier:
Dam you on some real shit everyday of the week. But I get mad about baseball all the time. That was our shit; our legacy and now there are only a handful of us out there. And baseball is almost the easiest sport to break into. But that is what I feel about Viacom and BET...bullshit.

I was so mad. They took off the news and Tavis Smiley - that was crazy as hell. They want BET to be MTV3 for real. And that shit is slowly moving around to the same bull.

Come one Jerzey Boi, stop acting like ny showed the west mad love nigga cause you fuckin lyin. It was love given but know where near the amount that LA showed NY so hush that shit.

South has showed the north big time respect but aint got shit back in return but alotta lip so hush that flaw shit

Blaze:
I see you! And I agree.

I'm done answering this east vs south shit. Anyone posting that shit should take the time and think about whose laughing at you. Think about it. What does black on black solve? How about selling drugs to young black kids before they have a chance to even decide the course of their life? How about the liquor stores in the hood that are not watched by the cops while their giving little boys and girls forties and blunts? How about the ones selling cigarettes to minors thus sapping their stamina? How about the overcrowded classrooms and lack of proper credentials by some of these teachers and administrators?

Do we seriously only have Pimp C to discuss today?

i came on the internet to see about some money and i stumbled across this site - damn yall niggas funny. i hope yall aint on a 9-5 thinkin bout this. if so, steal that computer and make some money off that bitch. im from the south. MIA. and money lookin real good to me. im gone. cant stay here. peace.

@KSH

This is the kind of shit I think about. I'm not addicted to a dollar. I'm waiting to see what's happening in my community to advance myself and my people. People don't understand the concept of white control. It's subtle but real.

EFrazier:
I think there is no help today. They want this craziness and I can't stand it. I gotta go to Soulful and calm down.

The problem is NY want a nicca to suck their dick..

Westcoast did it for a while 'til they eventually became receptive to them..

Southern niccas are different.. thats why we got rights today! LOL

its all good though.. everybody got their time..and its not NY's right now so chill my brothers...

"Hell NY niggas is bumping Jim Jones like he Biggie, so get off your soap box cause Jim Jones is wacker than Mike Jones, which is amazingly hard to accomplish but Jim pulls it off. Ballin!!!!"

Where the FUCK is willyj at on this? Shit, I'm inclined to think dude actually means this. Disgraceful man.

****TOPIC CHANGE****

Here's an easy one. Who is the wackest rapper? Better yet, gimme your top 5 wackest rappers. I'll lead it off:

1)Any member of D4L
2)Mike Jones
3)Silk da Shocker
4)Roscoe P.Coldchain (remember him?)
5)Yung Joc

If you think that's more hate towards the South, I'd like to send a big FUCK YOU to you and your opinion. Keep it to yourself.

I got love for the South...but these mafuckas epitomize wack.

Herc, Flash, KRS, Wu Tang are only legends in NYC... at least domestically, Don't hate on Pimp because The East Coast played itself...Pioneers Should never follow silly trends, It started with the Jocking of the West Coast rap style, then the idiodic bloods and crips style, Now you have main stream NYC rappers who are son interested in making so Called "Songs".... Ya'll just lost that swagger and let the swagger outshine y'all...In the words Of Too $hort when the Bay was complaining about everyone stealing Bay Area Slang...Quit Coomplaining, get money and Steal That Shit Back...

E:
I feel you. I know the dollar does not excite me like that. I just wanna be able to live comfortable but I don't need $500 Jimmy Choos and fur coats and Bentley's and all that craziness.
I wanna see our young people thrive and be better in every generation.

@like dat yall

nigga u sound stupid!

if opportunity is to yo left these white america folk goin try and make u go right doin whatever gets yo attention and if they know money and puttin yo black ass on tv is what keeps yo lil ass brain off tha real shit that counts like real money and freedom then thats what they goin do. and as soon as the opportunity leaves yo left they goin close tha door on yo lil money that u thought u was gettin, and laugh at yo ass cuz u stupid thinkin that they really giva damn about you. they dress u up in jacob and throw u on camera so u can influence the rest of the generation that thats what lifes about while they kids has no competion going to college becoming CEO and the people that will hand u yo check at the welfare office u dumb fuck, nigga wake up, i got more knoweledge than you and im only 19. damn this world is coming to an end

Texas baby!

EFrazier:
Did you get the info I sent you?
Some US/Saudi madness - check it out and let me know if you got it.

BOTTOM LINE:
THE shit Pimp C said in the WHOLE INTERVIEW NOT JUST THAT SNIPPET RECKLESS TOOK BITCH MADE DUDE DIN'T POST THE WHOLE INTERVIEW! What Pimp said It's so true it's saddening. And when people see it especially east coast niggaz they get offended but it's truth. Pimp got love for hip hop so why would one person go against one entire region? From my midwest & south point of view I remember when yall were excluding us...
we wasnt trippin...
we "copped" yalls shit and made our own shit... hit the pavement hard and made it happen FOR US!
Now that the shoe is on the other foot yall dont want to do it the way we did.. going back to the ROOTS of the shit and hitting the pavement...
making UNDENAIBLY good shit...

Some East Coast rappers & people get upset & want to rest on they laurels and let/& USE your reputation be your invitation to the top of the charts when it just doesnt go down like that! Start putting out hot shit then you wont have the "wack" shit on the radio anymore. How hard is that to understand?

Well, I think its low how the reporter will say that Southern women cant read, cus thats a stereotype. And I really think this reporter is feelin threatened by the Souths dominance, because why he gettin so mad???? On Pimps Comments: I respect Pimp C and his hustle and the boy a great lyricist if you listen to his stuff. I just think he said some of the things he said out of anger, because after awhile anybody gonna get tired of hearin bout "You Killed Hip Hop". If they claimin Hip Hop dead, "Like Nas", Then Retire. You say you aint in this shiii for the money, but for the love of music, then why u still in the game if you claimin hip hop dead. Obviously you in it for the money. Any person who say hip hop dead, needs to retire and move on with another career, ya dig. Let the people who think hip hop fine and thriving keep it going. Also, its funny, how ya'll try to forget about when Ghostface and Saigon, was calling out the south real bad, ya dig. But when Pimp C say somethin, all hell break loose. Oh well, and I think this south thing gonna b here longer than yall expect, cus the main buyers "white folks", lovin the club music and good feelin music.

@ Cic
NYC top 5 wack rappers

1) mase
2) diddy
3) tony yayo
4) capadonna
5) lil cease
6) ja rule ( same sing a long atl is doin )

damn, thats six. i got more, but aine gone unload. i just want you to know wack rappers aint got nuttin to do with regoins. its just that every year some wak rappers get exposure. this year atlanta exposed some of theirs

Also, I aint tryna be harsh or anything, but rap music comin from the Eastern region just seem to be "Boring". Like yall aint usin no creativity. I see yall have tried to step up ya creativity by getting southern producers: Scott Storch, The Runners, 9th Wonder, ETC.
North Carolina-Basketball Capital Baby-

@ disrespect

i own more than one business, and a charity. if u want to donate to my scholarship fund, give me some contact info.

When will you all learn?

As soon as someone says something about NY, you immiedeately start hating. What you're not realizing is that you're only proving the person right.

It doesn't take much at all to ruffle ya'll feathers and send you into a hating frenzy. Why? Because you niggas are haters already.

SOHH Reckless seriously needs to be fired. He's not a true jouranlist. He isn't even a true hip-hop head. He's just another NY idiot, full of bias and contempt for anyone not from NY. Nigga no one needs to pay hommage, because no one owes you shit.

You need some REAL NY niggas writing for SOHH. I've met a few, so I know they're out there. New York is seriously being mis-represented by this idiot, having everyone think you all are as narrow-minded and stupid as he is.

5 Wackest rappers

1. Any Member of Dipset...Swagger Jackers

2.Mase (Remember Him?)

3. Diddy

4. Ja Rule

5.(Tie)Tony Yayo and DMX

@LIKE DAT YALL

well u really have me convinced.

you sound really smart for a person that gives back to his community and really cares about minority isssues, especially by saying

"steal that computer and make some money off that bitch. im from the south. MIA. and money lookin real good to me. im gone. cant stay here. peace."

that sounds real smart to influence us to steal, basically ur saying do what ever it take to get a dolla and u goin be good in yo book. and that sounds to me that u dont care bout nothin thats happening with yo people only the people thats in MIA but what about us on here lookin for knowledge and yo say u got all this money and know how to make it then if u really smart you wuld have herd what we was talkin bout that was irrelevent to u and u what have told us that we are on the wrong path and u would be tryin to direct us on the right path but ur not ur sayin stupid shit so thats how i know ur fraud with ur statements

Texas Baby!

@banga

I sent you that track.

@Cic

Niggaz still bringin up Dipset I see??

Man, shit. Isn't that what Pimp C was talkin about?? Oh well.

What's good homie?

Man... The game is a hustle. Some people get theirs, and then start lazy grindin. Some people hustle and grind and nothing else. I aint sayin NYC fell off, but deffinetly started lazy hustlin the product.
Don't ever stop hustlin no matter how big you think you are. And if you do... Don't hate the hard workin HUSTLA!!!

Come one Jerzey Boi, stop acting like ny showed the west mad love nigga cause you fuckin lyin. It was love given but know where near the amount that LA showed NY so hush that shit.

Posted by: Blaze at September 12, 2006 01:46 PM

Yea. I'm lying that's what I like to do. I call it how I see it and there was love dudes was bumping those albums. I'm not here to convince you though but understand there was love. I had these album and threw this stuff on my turntables at parties. You just want to believe the east hates all other regions then go ahead with the ignorance.

@KSH

I made it thru some of it. It's too much to absorb in one reading. Moral and ethical dilemmas are difficult when they should be easy. For every action there is a reaction and it should serve the great good. Unfortunately, our leaders only have few interests and it's not only money. It's power and the need to be seen and heard. I watched The State of The Black Union address and it seemed everyone was trying to get that sound bite that would propel the audience to applause. The only ones that seemed genuinely interested and solution minded were The Honorable Min. Louis Farrakhan and The Honorable Mr. Harry Belafonte. I will read your paper over the coming days and I will correspond with you my thoughts on the subject. I promise. Thanks for trusting me with some of your personal info.

@ disrespect
you want knowledge - okay.

music is an expression - for every culture. but in america we have a culture clash. therefore, when we express ourselves to loudly, it becomes an influence to those who listen. im involved in corporate america, and we dont discuss music. the government does. they see the influence it has. people think they are scared because white children listen to rap. but they are not. they are scared because certain individuals in music influence 17 to 18 year olds. THE VOTING AGE. if tupac or biggie was still alive, they would have a big impact on elections - not from states, but from entire coasts. while yall say crips suge and the crips are responsible for their deaths, u need to wake up. the government controls corporations, and will never allow it to be another tupac. tupac was amongst malcolm x and martin luther king as far as the government is concerned. ask kanye west to say bush dont like black people again, and see how he reacts. but if thats my donation to this blog, then i hope it helped someone. and u were right disrespect- i acted childish

First of all I am not from the south or the east coast....

But, what's real is real....

The south is runnin shit right now...
There is alot of bull shit in rotation right now....North, South, East, West & Mid-West... Anytime you let these crackers in on the game they gone try to exploit it and milk it for what it's worth....For every wack ass south song like D4L's laffy taffy there is a wack ass east coast song like Jibbs chain hang low...

We all know that hip-hop started in the east.... That don't make ya'll the only ones that rap and that don't make ya'll the best....Basketball was started by a white man in Indiana, but ain't no cracker gone beat a nigga hoopin...LET IT GO....

Sales don't mean shit... Just cause a nigga goes platinum that don't make him hott shit.... Most sales come from white kids in the burbs...And niggas in the hood is bootlegging like crazy in these times.... The streets and only the streets determines what's hott shit.....

Pimp C is just speaking his mind....
You don't have to agree with him, but at least respect his openion....

Pimp C is a legend just like KRS One, been around for a while, made some classic 5-mic shit.... The Pimpalation is cool, but it's not all that, but neither was Yayo's shit, Mobb Deep's shit or even Busta's shit...

It's a circle and east coast is gonna be on top again... They got alot of young niggas thats ready, Papoose, Maino, & Black Hand....

I love this hip-hop shit, but we are all the ones responsible for killin it, by lettin these crackers in on "our" thing.... Devide & Conquor...

Let Hip-Hop live so that we can pass it onto our kids and they can pass it to they kids...Don't participate in bashing the east coast and don't hate on the south...Diferent strokes for diferent folks....It's enuff money for everybody....

God Bless This Rap Shit!!!!

EFrazier:
Yeah I am in no hurry. Just a little bit my intellectual side - lol!

And I feel the same way you do. And yes the State of The Black Union was definitely a show. It reminded me of Coretta Scott Kings funeral. I was a little pissed off afterwards at that politicians and the Black leaders.

Posted by: NYC Ain't Shiiiiiit... at September 12, 2006 01:37 PM
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YTou gotta be an ignorant ass nigga to say some dumb shit like that. NYC is the richest city in the world. The same houses that sell for 250K in GHeorgia gor for 2 million up here. Anybody with a brain realizes that the cost of living up here is a lot more. Niggaz retreat to ATL because they don't have the balls to make it here. Hence the fucking song... "If you can make it here you can make it anywhere"... SOme niggaz can't make it so they migrate to where its easier.....
Thats very simple since yall south niggaz love simple.

South has showed the north big time respect but aint got shit back in return but alotta lip so hush that flaw shit

Posted by: Blaze at September 12, 2006 01:46 PM

You just angry dude. You let people get under your skin too much just cause there are a few that hate the south here entirly doesn't mean that's the way it is. I'm from the North and give your real emcees respect but I will tell you I don't appreciate the bullshit bandwagon most of your new artist are jumping on.

dumb ass you cant dis the pimp cause all the slang how people talk rap in the south is cause of ugk mjg 3-6 thats hip hop to me run dmc was cool suga hill gang was cool but it was happy rap like d4l but melly mel went hard back then giving it to em straight yo fuck commercial rap undergrond 4 life

@KSH

I have to roll out of here and into the field. I'll be down in the mornings only for a few days. I'll hit you later to just say hello.

Peace to all the real

I'm out

PEACE 2 MY NI99A ERNEST FRAIZER!

All you young ni99as show some respect 4 ya elders and you dirty south ni99as respect for New York.

@LIKE DAT YALL

now u came on the wrong day.
but thats the shit we like to hear in this blog.
and thats the knowledge we usually spit in this blog but today because of the topic this blog as been infested so thats why the usuals has left and its only these dumb ass niggaz in here talkin dat east vs south shit so we (usuals) go back to doin our jobs cuz most of us are at work until these dumb asses (stans) leave then we come back.

but if u look at the top to ur left u can see the topic from sohh new york yesterday and click on it and u can see what we usually talk about.

but yeah thanks for the knowledge cuz its always appreciated

much love

Texas Baby!

you are right about things are cheaper in the south (homes etc) but if you in new york city hand to hands come all day easy more people are in one area see in the south it is not simple it is hard come to the country and make it you did something not the south in the big city but the country places with no mall 1 high school min wage $6.00 simple you must be smoking dust blunts

@ x xoochie bk bitch

aint nobody showin new york no respect unless they show it 1st. and then we still gotta think about it.

y hip hop new yorkers think they're the nations capital?

nigga please. u can breath down here.

EFrazier: See you in the AM baby!
Have a good one.

nigga please. u canT breath down here.

@ x xoochie bk bitch

aint nobody showin new york no respect unless they show it 1st. and then we still gotta think about it.

Posted by: dirty south at September 12, 2006 02:52 PM

LOL - Thats some funny shyt yo the stans stay making me laugh while at work. Keep it up people it makes the day go by just a little faster.

@Efrazier

Peace out folk

@KSH

And if ur leaving too peace out to yall and hopefully tommorrow this blog is better.

FUCK EVERYONE FROM TEXAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just wanted to holla back at the boy WillyJ.

Aint shit man...chillin, workin, all that.

Imma get back up with yall at the next topic change.

...So until then.

GEEEEZ!!!! Can you NYC peeps STOP CYING AND GRAB A FUCKIN TISSUE ALREADY! Damn! You want keep hip hop for yourself fine... you have it. No one is taking hip hop from NYC. But if you want too keep it for yourself and not share shit, then tell all your gangsta rappers to STOP THAT GANGSTA RAP. Ya'll steallin the gangsta rap from the west who invented it. Quit bitting. You wanna play it like that??? Well then, we'll let you keep hip hop, west keeps gangsta rap, and south keeps, the club energy!!! OK?? And no one can go outside those lines and everyone is only limited to what there region is doing. I better not hear none of you east coast crybabies talking that gangsta shit no more!!! YOUR GANGSTA PASS IS REVOKED!!! CRYBABIES AIN'T ALLOWD TO BE GANGSTA!!!!

i feel you on that one Xclusive BK Du.niggas done lost there got damn mind.this shit has me laughing my ass off.both side are saying some bullshit.

Here's 10 more wack emcees

the nga
Drama remember left right left, yeah he sucked

All of No Limit except Mystikal
the worst rap group ever
early Missy she used to suck!
Beep Beep who got the keys to my jeep
and People used to say she's so creative
get the fk outta here!
and Tim and Magoo sucked too!
No disrepect to houston but Mike Jones sucks and Paul Wall says the same sht on every song. And Lil Flip is hands down the worst! Even though I did like What it do wit Manny fresh. I never understood a damn thing that comes outa Juvenile mouth! I can't say he sucks cause I don't understand any of his rhymes! I've back the azz up a million times and still don't know his verse!
Puffy sucks azz including the people that write his rhymes!
Everyone from the Band including Choppa sucks!
Dipset sucks Jim Jones is hands down one of the worst rappers ever!
And yes that includes Hell Rell and Jr Writer how do you respect a man that makes a song called grillin a song about staring at someone real hard and not doing sht.psy fk Jr Writer
Mase was always corney but Lyrically he doesn't suck he's just corney as fk.
See Dmx Ngz done started something or 300 Bars n running featuring all of GUnit he rips it. But he's still psy!
Chingy's garbage, So is Nelly and all of the St. Lunitics you can add the chain hang low kid and them teenie boppers braggin about theirs vans and the walk it out clown kids love em including my son and he's 2 haha so I'm not hating but they still suck.
When he gets older Ima introduce him to the real. Remember Coolio he suck'd
when yayo first came out he was horrible
he's much better now same wit Cormega
he used to really suck. Shyne sucks Loon sucks, Bleek sucks,
fk it since we airing it out
for a while Snoop sucked!no he's song to song! Ngz say they can't understand Cappa what about Craig Mack OMG da fk was he saying

heres a better list
the what the fk are you talking bout list!

man , if yall aint from doen here , then yall cant relate to this down south music, I undertand all of the points made , but come on im from tx , pimp c has ben underground for a long time , he was the ish then , and he will still be .. Just Like half of You CockBloking , copycat , ny uptown niggs .. hollin bout riding Durty , yall dont know nothing about nothing ,
chamillionaire been the ish since the early 90's ....yall always talking , but i dont see nobody on the map shining like the souf ... in addition to Busta .. he is the only one i see making moves.. so dont down Us .. Yall ny pple always think yall better than somebody ,, funky asses ...

wack ass east coast song like Jibbs chain hang low...
Posted by: Anonymous at September 12, 2006 02:39 PM

Didn't know St Louis was east

@Banga!

Keep it up lol...that shit had my dyin over here.

Disrespect:
I am in the room. Just reading this craziness mostly. But you are holding it down so it's cool.

Banga!: What up luv?

if you hate the south now you haten for nothing beware of south ni99as with lyrics and don't rap on 808 drums don't say i did not warn you get ready to get your wet wipes

@KSH

And if ur leaving too peace out to yall and hopefully tommorrow this blog is better.

Posted by: Disrespect at September 12, 2006 02:56 PM

I'm Co-Signing!

THIS NORTH VS. SOUTH SHYT RECKLESS PULLED TODAY IS REAL SUSPECT......

RECKLESS U JUST LOST A STRIPE FROM ME NI99A U WAS AN SOHH ALL-STAR NOW I GOTTA SIT YOU ON THE BENCH!

THIS BLOG HAS THE MOST COMMENTS. DUDE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOIN WHEN HE POSTED IT. BUT THE REALITY OF THIS IS, THERE IS SOME TENSION BETWEEN THE SOUTH AND THE NORTH, AND ITS GONNA BLOW UP AND GET WORST IN A MINUTE. BUT DIDDY, FAT JOE, JADA, AND A FEW OTHERS ARE GOING TO BE WELCOME IN THE SOUTH BECAUSE THEY CONGREGATE WITH US. BUT I THINK THIS GONE GET CRAZY WITHIN A FEW YEARS. I GUESS THE EAST GONE BEEF WITH EVERY REDION BEFORE ITS OVER

FUCK PIMP C, AND FUCK BUN B FOR RIDING WITH HIM, AND FUCK (C)RAP-A-LOT FOR SIGNING HIS BITCH ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PIMP'S WHACK ALBUM SOLD 155,000 ONLY! AND THE ONLY REASON WHY WAS BECAUSE OF "BIG PIMPIN" WICH HE WAS FEATURED ON BY A NEW YORK ARTIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALL REAL HIP HOP HEADS KNOW N.Y. IS THE MECCA OF HIP HOP. AND EVEN IN TEN YEARS IF NO N.Y RECORDS EVER WHERE RELEASED AGAIN IT WOULD STILL BE!

FUCK ATLANTA, FUCK HOUSTON, FUCK ST.LOUIS!!!!!

OK I DON'T CARE IF N.Y. NEVER GETS PLAY AGAIN!!! SHOW ME A SOUTHERN MC ON RAKIM'S OR KOOL G'S LEVEL.... YOU CAN'T THERE BEST MC IS ON THE LEVEL OF A MEDIOCRE MC FROM NY!!!!!!!!!!

1995- EAST VS. WEST
2006- EAST VS. SOUTH

I WANT TO SEE THIS BEEF FOR REAL, NOT SUBLIMANAL JABS, FULL ON BEEF!!! AND IF D4L OR UGK OR NELLY OR ANY WHACK ARTIST FROM THE SOUTH FALLS VICTIM, TOO FUCKING BAD!!!!!!

Banga!: You a wild boi but you stay on point. I gotta do my lil grl the same way when she is old enough...but for now I just laugh it off. Walk it out - that is so crazy...lol
Craig Mack --haha!

Juvenile --Ha! - you remember that song that shit took me 2 months to understand that shit...lol

this is truely the dumbest blog I have ever been on...90% of you fucks are retarded up here today...

Who from the south is shining right now?

Who from the east is shining right now?

Look at the goddamn charts! No one in hip hop is shining right now...

@SOUTH:

Yall run ended like 6 months ago but half of you are too busy yelling the "south is running shit to realize it"...Check all of your artist that dropped in the last 6 months..they all flopped just like the east coast MCs...Yall had 100 excuses why they all flopped but I thought the Flop of Outkast would finally wake yall up.... but apparently it didn't...Pimp C is so fucking stupid that his album sold under 200,000 and he still think the south is running shit...He's an idiot...Everything this dumb ass nigga said was about how the East coast aint selling and how the south is...

But in reality the south aint selling no more either...NOBODY IN HIP HOP WHO HAS DROPPED AN ALBUM IN THE LAST 6 MONTHS HAS GONE OVER GOLD...and thats East, South or West so why do you dumb fucks keep saying yall running shit?

@ new york

damn, u must be upset. man. are u an artist? or are you the one who gone start the war? u gotsta be somebody other than a blog writer

North, South, West, and Midwest are all in the same boat...Nobody is selling right now...Thats why niggas is saying Hip Hop is Dead....Outkast, arguably the greatest hip hop group ever just got they ass kicked by Danity Kane!!!!...Wake yall dumb asses up and see what's going on!

what every body should remember is that New York city is not a state it aint but so big the south is states so the south runs the rap from now to the world comes to a end. south rappers don't have to sell one album in NYC and will still go plat. and some of that shit wack. but a nYc rapper diss the south the shit flops busta and ghostface but i fuck with ghost hard since day one. so if you a rapper don't diss the south cause you will flop. uno

Noreaga is the King of "what the fuck is he talking about?" rap style

Even when he was hot, I still dont understand :
"yo we light a candle, run laps around da english channel/..." WTF?

Anyway, its gonna be funny as hell when these bubble gum rap and tick tock track lovers are gonna be forced to listen to some real rap

Luda, Red, Joey, Fabolous, Nas, Jay

Lupe, Styles, its gonna get lyrical real soon,

I predict a whole bunch of kids are gonna suffer neck injuries while "boppin", hundreds more will simply overload on info and there'll be some head explosion cases.

In either case Fuck Bubble Gum raps and irrelevant southside "rappers", its all about good music, and these bitches aint gone none

My WHAT THE FK IS HE SAYING LIST

JUVENILE ENGLISH NGA ENGLISH

Early Busta Rhymes who taught this nga how to talk

Early Mystikal do you have to scream all your versus. He shit ain't even on beat! This nga's Bi Polar

Ghostface OMG
Raekwon love Rae but you rhymes sound like one long as run on sentence!
Cappadonna too much shaolin slang

Keith Murray Funny as FUCK but he's like the Jesse Jackson of rap

Redman Believe it or not, his shit does make sense you just have to listen to it 5times to catch it all.

E40 THE WORST, I KNOW THE WORDS HE'S USING, I CAN CLEARLY HEAR THEM
BUT WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THE WORST
NOT ONLY DOES IT SUCK BUT NO ONE UNDERSTANDS IT. HOW DO YOU INVENT A LANGUAGE.WHO DOES THIS CHUBBY NGA THINK HE IS. SAYING ISH LIKE I GOT MY AKEY BRAKEY FOOT IN THE DOOR BUT TO SNIZZLE MY DIZZLE TO THE ROOF TOP YOU FIZZLE ME
DA FK DID YOU SAY, AND WHY DID YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO SAY THAT SHT OUT LOUD?

And what da fk is Keek the Sneek sayin
listening to his voice is like listening to someone crumble paper
At least ODB has drug issues da fk is this nga's problem.

man new york do need to get their fucking back packs out and hop on the fucking train son thats what the fuck is missing faggats like jay z and puffy got new york fucked up we need new york to be on some black moon, duck down, wu tang shit for the millenium b fuck that it can still sell niggaz just scraed tobe themselves. peace

selling 190,000 in the 1st week is a flop? danity kane sold more, so that makes outkast a flop? then danity kane flopped cuz christina agulerra sold 365,000. and some dude sold more than her. so i guess three albums flopped?

WOE.

I'm not going to speak for the East v. South, but I will speak for the NYC v. ATL.

Look, Black people in ATL are doing so much better than Black people in NYC. We are more educated, living in bigger beautiful homes, we actually own cars, AND Black people from all over are attracted to our city and not yours...

You assholes can't even afford to live in your city anymore, Bloomberg is getting rid of each and every last one of your Black Caribbean accent having asses. And when you arrogant (for no reason) assholes do get pushed out, where do you end up?

Down here in ATL wearing your fucking Timberlands with shorts on 105 degree days in the summers wondering how Black people from all over and native Atlantans, have acquired more wealth than you ever will while you were paying 1000 dollars a month living in a 10x12 box somewhere in Brooklyn with your family of 8.

Give it up NYC, I know it's hard to admit, but we have all come to realize that when it comes to places for Black people to be, you suck ass, and Atlanta doesn't.

Listening to Outkast as the highest selling Hip-Hop group, not to mention profoundest as well (oh and best, yes factoring in a bunch of senior citizens from Staten Island), of all time is only a bonus.

In closing fuck the five boroughs (well, more like four seeing how your Black asses can't afford to live in Manhattan and Harlem is about to be Columbia University's picnic area) and Metro Area ATL stand the fuck up. Trick ass hos...

^^^

Thats what Im talkin about, get money niggas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zone 4 Westside 4 life niggas
Adamsville
Alen Temple 10-10

Oh Banga! why art thou so harsh...LOL

All that shit is so true. I gotta close my door so I can laugh my ass off...

FORGOT Nore
Yisamean ya heard
off the Yosabar
I will admit he was funny though
can't think of em all though

as of right now the south is running sh ..but life aint nothin but a circle so wherever it started with it will come back.. for example... i bet loot no one in the south will do the numbers that jayz will do and hopefull the rest of east coast hip hop will follow suit.. u got the clipse,fabolous,saigon all of potential rappers [ that i havent even mentioned] who can bring the east bk to where it was.

This gone go on forever and what's gone get accomplished out of this debate, shit. I love hip hop no matter where your from. People can't seem to agree to disagree. Then people gettin pissed over other people opinions. Didn't GOD say we shouldn't judge, but people takin this shit to damn far. People claiming coast like they own them shits. Rappers are the only music artist claiming a coast, R&B, Rock, and other artist making music instead of this ignorant shit. What's next NBA and NFL nigga's gone start beefin about what college and hometown they from. I love my people but we can get so ignorant at times. These artist are in the music business to make money period. Yeah it's alot of bullshit out, but tell me when wack nigga's didn't exist. It's always been some wack ass nigga's tryin to rap. I fucks wit lyrics, raw dog nigga's who be spittin fire. This coast shit is only started by magazines and the media to sell to us and then we take it out context and start this my city is the best shit. I got love for anybody puttin out good music. It's booty nigga's on the west, mid-west, south, and the east. It's cool to rep yo city, but damn come on now nigga's on a computer reppin they city like they own a peice of that city. Then nigga's talkin bout fuckin up rappers if they come down south. We know where ignorant nigga's end up, homie so freeze that tough shit please. People these only OPINIONS, don't everybody have one. Get out of ya'll left titty about it. It's like over 500 hundred rappers, so how is hip hop dead. Sales only mean something to the label and artist not ya'll, so why ya'll argue about that shit. Good music is good music period and fuck that garbage shit. Back to the NBA and NFL, if they can come together and play together why can't Hip Hop do that. Jordan from NY and he went and made Chi-town famous. Bottom line is it ain't where your from but where your going. Got to go cause to many little kids posting dumb shit!!!
one-

Banga!:
Please stop!!!!LOL

selling 190,000 in the 1st week is a flop? danity kane sold more, so that makes outkast a flop? then danity kane flopped cuz christina agulerra sold 365,000. and some dude sold more than her. so i guess three albums flopped?

WOE.

Posted by: white christmas at September 12, 2006 03:20 PM
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You see this is what Im talking about...You niggas are retarded...DK was number 1 on the charts last week...Look it up...Christina didn't out sell them...

And for a group with the fan base of Outkast, a group that sold like 600 thousand their first week with their last couple of albums, yes 190,000 is a flop...

WOE, you're an idiot.

what about jermaine dupree. how long has he been making hits? what about outkast - they came out same time as jay-z, and jermaine was there b4 them. so the south has been around along time. they just got more people gettin deals now. so it aint no they gone fall off. they been here. even meth said it on allhiphop.com and ballerstatus.net - they just moved the haters aside with the help of jay-z. he put ugk on, and got with timbaland to make some club bangers, and down south is just handlin business rite now

Fuck SOHH RECKLESS.

That nigga really write for Martha Stuart Living

Texas Biotch

Black Friday:

I'm co-signing everything you saying!

Hip-Hop is in a state of catastrophe all the greats ain't doing squat doodley shyt on the charts

BUSTA - GOLD
GHOSTFACE - BRICK
Lloyd Banks - NO BUZZ
MOBB DEEP - BRICK
OUTKAST - FLOP
DMX - BRICK

The list goes on and on

@ purple tuesday

sort by: Top Sellers u Album u Released u Price

1. Idlewild [Explicit]
OutKast
2. Back To Basics
Christina Aguilera
3. Step Up Soundtrack
Various Artists
4. Collision Course [Expl...
Jay-Z/ Linkin Park

5. Good Monsters
Jars Of Clay
6. All The Right Reasons
Nickelback
7. The Ultimate Luther Va...
Luther Vandross
8. Sacrament [Explicit]
Lamb of God

9. A Matter of Life and D...
Iron Maiden
10. Show Stopper
Danity Kane
11. Dangerous Man
Trace Adkins
12. Extreme Behavior [Expl...
Hinder

13. In My Own Words
Ne-Yo
14. Believe
Various Artists
15. How To Save A Life
The Fray
16. Me And My Gang
Rascal Flatts

17. Breakaway
Kelly Clarkson
18. Unapprecia ted
Cherish
19. Move Along
The All-Americ an Rejects
20. Elephunk [BONUS TRACK:...

yo, chill out , a grilla ain't a paul wall or nyc gay ass gold frint , it's diamonds in your mouth and it don't come off, Hip Hop is not Dead but if it was 50 cent and other generic N.Y C m.c 's who rythme bacardi with party.

nyc in the buildn

"YTou gotta be an ignorant ass nigga to say some dumb shit like that. NYC is the richest city in the world. The same houses that sell for 250K in GHeorgia gor for 2 million up here. Anybody with a brain realizes that the cost of living up here is a lot more."

Posted by: Anonymous at September 12, 2006 02:40 PM

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NYC isn't the richest city in the world. Actually, it isn't even the richest city in the country. There are millions being made, but NY has a terrible ratio of wealth to poor residents.

On a real list, it doesn't even make top 5.

http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/2005/10/27/richest-cities-US-cx_sc_1028home_ls.html

I hate to say it, but "NYC Ain't Shiiiiiit..." is right. It amazes me how niggas brag about neighborhoors that they can't afford to live in - or even visit without being harassed by the police. I mean WTF is the point?

@ white christmas :

Homie you cant be this stupid....I understand Im probably a lot brighter than you but you can't be that stupid...

It's obvious to anybody with any common sense that Hip Hop as a whole is suffering right now...Pimp C of all people should know that because of his poor sales...LOOK AT THE NUMBERS OVER THE LAST 6 MONTHS!...THE SOUTH AINT RUNNING SHIT! R&B IS RUNNING SHIT!

Hip hop aint selling no more...even the garbage that gets heavy radio play aint selling...Why are you bringing up JD?

Look at the numbers goofy...

Add Will Smith to my wack list
and every white rapper not named Eminem or Bubba Sparks

and the Ying Yang twins fkin retards
ever notice when the short one talks he drools its gross

Banga!:
dam but I fuck with Em - I just like his the way he manipulates his lyrics; he is a psycho - but I can deal with him.

Will Smith - dam - Summertime was my shit!!! LOL

@banga

LOL

My list is

Twista, who da fuck knows what he be talkin bout, unless tha shit is screwed up.

e-40 talk like he got water in his mouth

lil wayne, im sorry but come on, sometimes this dude be on his on level talkin some weird shit, i have to to ohhla.com just to get his lyrics and then go to dictionary.com to see what they mean, that shit is tight but it top the what tha fuck did he say list

sean paul.

omar dude, i know im not spanish but tha shit comes on english music chanels.

Its funny to me how the Pimp has managed to ruffle you niggas feathers. Pimp and alot of niggas in the south ain't the most lyrical people in the world, but we get straight to the point and give you the real. Pimp said the real now niggas wanna be mad. I mean Saigon said some shit niggas took outta context, but he was right about what he said also about niggas up north still thinkin' we slow. I bet 95% of you didn't read his interview on allhiphop. Niggas in the south don't hate on the east, we support the east, but alot of you nuthafuckas hate on any and everything that ain't east coast. Thats why Cube put thats ass in check in 96'. Here is my list of reasons why NY is on life support....

1. You niggas hate on each other and use beef as a marketing tool. Divide and conquer is so true in ya'll case.

2.NY lost its sound. I don't hear too many east coast rappers fuckin' with Premier, Large Pro, Pete Rock, D.I.T.C, Easy Mo Bee and many other talented producers any more that gave NY the sound that made the city.

3.As much as ya'll hate on the south, ya'll been pullin' a cater 2 u move and try to make music for us when ya'll should do your own shit.

4.Only a few niggas in the east are truly eating off this shit. You know how niggas get when they can't eat.

5.CHICKEN NOODLE SOUP. Ya'll niggas talked big shit about Laffy Taffy being the wackest shit in the world, and then turn around and create a dance thats looks like some James Brown, tap-dancing, minstrel show jig-a-boo nigga shuffling.

Whether you like it or not, all of this shit we love and bitch about is hip-hop. The arguement that should be made and we should stick to is how the stations don't have the balance that it once had a few years ago. And how the independents don't have a fighting chance against the majors.

In the words of Pimp C, Ya'll need to get up off that dumb shit, I gotta bread truck get up off that dumb shit!

@: white christmas :

You really are retarded...what the hell did your dumbass just post? Go to billboard.com stupid or you can check soundscan....

Im out, you're too stupid to even talk to...stay in school dumb ass nigga

@ihadnochoice

I appreciate ur restraint when talking about z-ro but i stand by my comment wholeheartedly. You say "i've heard z-ro before" just tells me you haven't listened to him. There's a difference. Imagine your favorite rapper, how much you've listened to his tracks, then give z-ro that much of a chance, listen to the whole cd "look what you did to me" or "kind of da ghetto" then z-ro will be your favorite rapper of all time, and you will see what i mean by (i'll say it again) he's better than pac, biggie, or jay-z... taking nothing away from any of them but that's what i truly believe.

@ purple wednesday

i never said anything about a region running anything. that was for the cat who said :

" but life aint nothin but a circle "

i was just pointing out someone who was here longer and at the sametime as the "new york legend - jay z"

thats all. and yea u r much brighter. if u sell 190,000 in your 1st week ure a flop.

Disrespect:
Love Weezy!!!

And yeah I love Sean Paul cause he is too sexy not too like but I never know what the fuck he saying. But he could whisper that shit in my ear anyday...LOL

E40 talk like he is retarded for real- weeple lization - WTF? LOL

But I love "U and Dat" my guilty pleasure -- LMAO!!!

you can't blame the rappers you have to blame the A&R for so called killing hip hop. lets take em back to 95-99 leave the dancing for the hoes. need that real shit

@kingshit

you screwed up your big ending dawg. "...i gotta bread truck get up off dat CRUMB shit" got ur point though

HIP-HOP IS DEAD!

After 25yrs. of Greatnes
1979-2004 - Rest In Peace

@Huey Freeman:YOU'RE RIGHT,NYC IS THE BEGINNING OF HIP HOP, BUT IF NOBODY FROM NYC RESPECTS ARTIST NOT FROM NYC, THEN YOU CANT EXPECT US TO RESPECT YOU.

CRYBABIES AIN'T ALLOWD TO BE GANGSTA!!!
YOUR GANGSTA PASS IS REVOKED!!!
CRAWL BACK TO YOUR CRIB NYC!!!

rappers in the south make the best drug dealing songs. if new york want there spot back somebody better come up with a dance ha ha

hip hop is dead niggas make me sick, nigga let it go!

hip hop is in its senior citizen stage - being that the legenda, jay-z, LL, nas, are all i their late 30's.

it aint dead yet. but in a few more years, its gone be in a retirement home. and there is going to be so much good music out there.

like jada said, change yall style up. ja rule carried yall on 106 and park for a couple years, then 50 ruined that with his gangsta album, then put out some "just a lil bit" singin shit and fell off.

thats all. and yea u r much brighter. if u sell 190,000 in your 1st week ure a flop.

Posted by: white christmas at September 12, 2006 03:44 PM
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Yes, I am a whole lot brighter...I bright enough to know sales numbers are realative to the artist...An artist who has been in for 10 plus years with millions of fans world wide, world tours, and a movie out right now should out sell a reality show band that is only known by people who watch MTV reality television...

The south's run has been over...They're running on fumes right now...Nobody is in control...Hip Hop is on it's death bed...but its in the process of being resurrected...If you don't believe me, fall back and watch!

pharrell pants tight thats why he floping

hip hop is dead niggas make me sick, nigga let it go!

Posted by: Shiesty_G at September 12, 2006 03:53 PM

YESA A BOSSA ILL HAVE THOSE SHOES SHINED

@ yellow thursday

i thot u said u was gone. u shouldve said u a hater and a hoper.

u shouldve said u hope outkast flops.

BLAME THE FANS, THE ARTIST, AND THE LABELS FOR THE DEATH OF HIP HOP. WE ARE THE ONES THAT ALLOWED CORPARATE AMERICA TO STEP AND DETERMINE WHATS GOOD AND NOT GOOD IN OUR MUSIC.

as long as mixtapes still around hip hop wont die one love to the mixtape dj's

@bily bixby

real talk i co-sign

2 answer your quetion dirty south,
maybe because NY is the Mecca of Hip Hop, so there's a reason why respect is due.

Posted by: Huey Freeman at September 12, 2006 03:39 PM

The south is the Mecca of Jazz and Blues, so techincally everything that exisits in music started here. Where is the respect?

Timbaland, The Neptuens, and Jermaine Dupri are all southern producers. The whole new production style in the past 10 years originated from the south? Where is the respect?

The rap game has evolved far past battling on street corners in the Bronx, and NY had little to do with that. No one will ever give you credit if you're always bragging about your accomplishments.

For once in the history of Hip-Hop, NY just needs to shut the fuck up about what they did for the game. If you're truly deserving of recognition, you'll get it. It's hard to praise someone when you're being insulted by them though.

What makes it even dumber is who's doing the talking. You don't hear RUN-DMC or Eric B & Rakim going on and on about the legacy of NY. All this BS is comming from the new generation who hasn't even proven themselves to be legends yet.

@ pink wednesdays

i hope u cop method mans album every paycheck to keep hip hop alive.

cuz hate with no works is dead.

and the haters are hip hop fans like u

New york had grillz before they were even called grillz! Check Meth's old videos he was sporting the fangs wit the white contact in one eye! I aint hating on the south they make good music like any other human can. The spotlight is on yall right now so when wack shit comes out of course its gonna get criticized. Remember PIMP C made that stupid comment. NY dissed west coast rap back then. Their music then didnt suk like down south 2day! I aint sayin tha south suks but I smell garbage and yall aint cleaning up house man! Ny dont support wack music we take out our garbage, if they still selling it aint from Ny its from the burbs. OH and dont start no war with the North last civil war was won by the North! We here thru 9/11 and all nigga!

What makes it even dumber is who's doing the talking. You don't hear RUN-DMC or Eric B & Rakim going on and on about the legacy of NY. All this BS is comming from the new generation who hasn't even proven themselves to be legends yet.

Posted by: RapIsDead at September 12, 2006 04:00 PM

You dumb fuck you ever heard of Nasir Jones last time I checked his generation was the early 90's Hip-Hop.

LIKE I SAID B4

HIP-HOP IS DEAD!
IN STORES NOVEMBER 7TH 2006
MARK YOUR CALENDARS!

I'M COPPING 3, ONE FOR THE CRIB, ONE FOR THE WHIP, AND ONE STAYING IN THE PLASTIC

everybody mad talking bout a fucking hip hop dead and nobody and got a gotdamn dime aor tax rightoff for buying one damn cd hip hop anit put no money in my pocket

@Black Friday

I think dudes is just having fun getting you to respond to him. You dropped knowledge on him...he knows he's beat...so that's about when cats break out the name calling. Lamest shit, I swear.

Also, why the fuck you chumps keep bringing up the age of NY rappers? You DO know Pimp C is like 40 right?

Eightball & MJG too. Matter fact, don't one of them dudes have gray all braided into his dreads? Someone said Cham has been rapping since the early 90's, if so he has to be over 30. Both members of Outkast are over 30. I know Face damn well is over 40, and he just stopped rapping.

That isn't disrespect to any Southern rappers but shit... some of yall act like all the South's top acts are like 15 or something. Most rappers out are pushing 30. The South is no exception.

The fuck does their age have to do with it anyway? If you make hot music, regardless of where you're from I fucks with you. End of story.

Aight, now I'm really done commenting on this shit.

im felling you on the money in my pocket

nigga that was so lame of you@HAPO faggot ass

s

DIRTY SOUF IN YA MOUF BITCHES!!!

MY GRANDFATHER IS 91 YEARS OLD AND HE HAD GOLD TEETH IN HIS MOUTH!!! HE LIVED IN THE SOUTH HIS WHOLE LIFE.

DO YOU DUMB FUKS NOW RECOGNIZE THE REAL?!?!?!?! THAT BULLSHYT YALL KICKIN BOUT STARTIN GRILLS/FRONTS IS OLD!!!

YA ANCESTORS FROM THE SOUTH STARTED THAT SHYT.

THE WRITER OF THIS BLOG IS THE ENEMY TO OUR PEOPLE....INSTEAD OF HATING ON A WHOLE REGION OF PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T TRY TO FOOL THEMSELVES LIKE SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT YOU CAN SEE HAS CHANGED...YOU NEED TO BE UNITING LIKE THE SOUTH AND BRING THIS LYRICAL AND METAPHORICAL STYLE WITH ALL THIS INSITE AND KNOWLEDGE TO THE FOREFRONT AND HELP US ALL....BITCH!

YALL ARE KIDS IN THE BRAIN.

@Erveryone(STANS)
NOT THE USUALS

A bunch of nerds on the internet slanderin your name, behind there screen name their lame and their life is really plain, m&m's wit no nuts want show up face to face cuz there bitch made like a puppy on the nipples of a mut!

I'm not going to speak for the East v. South, but I will speak for the NYC v. ATL.

Look, Black people in ATL are doing so much better than Black people in NYC. We are more educated, living in bigger beautiful homes, we actually own cars, AND Black people from all over are attracted to our city and not yours...

You assholes can't even afford to live in your city anymore, Bloomberg is getting rid of each and every last one of your Black Caribbean accent having asses. And when you arrogant (for no reason) assholes do get pushed out, where do you end up?

Down here in ATL wearing your fucking Timberlands with shorts on 105 degree days in the summers wondering how Black people from all over and native Atlantans, have acquired more wealth than you ever will while you were paying 1000 dollars a month living in a 10x12 box somewhere in Brooklyn with your family of 8.

Give it up NYC, I know it's hard to admit, but we have all come to realize that when it comes to places for Black people to be, you suck ass, and Atlanta doesn't.

Listening to Outkast as the highest selling Hip-Hop group, not to mention profoundest as well (oh and best, yes factoring in a bunch of senior citizens from Staten Island), of all time is only a bonus.

In closing fuck the five boroughs (well, more like four seeing how your Black asses can't afford to live in Manhattan and Harlem is about to be Columbia University's picnic area) and Metro Area ATL stand the fuck up. Trick ass hos...

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SO TRUE! LMAO! SO WHAT DO NY GOT TO SAY ABOUT DAT!

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IM TALKING TO BLAZE MCHERBS, XLUSIVE BK DUDE, BANGA, AND ALL THE OTHER PUSSYS

I would have to agree and im not even in atl!

Disrespect:
Dam I want a Hollywood Divorce too!!! LOL!!!

@ Ear4music

Why do you niggaz insist on using the Wu tang Clan as your only example of "NY had grillz before the South" argument. That is a week ass example. One nigga had fangs in the early nineties and now all the sudden Ny invented grillz. I guess NYC invented rims too then? You up north cats are always trying to take credit for someone elses shit!

Did the whole entire Northeast Region rock fangs after that? No. So shut the fuck up! Fronts are not the same as a permanent grill! Niggaz in the South had their entire mouths covered in permanant gold back in the eighties. The only reason you niggaz dont believe it is because the South wasnt mainstream back then so you niggaz never saw what the hellwe were doing down here.

NY niggas had fronts back in the day not permanant grillz. Theres a big fuckin difference.

@ Cic

but those people from the south u named fans arent complaining. and those people aint complainin that they aint gettin no radio play. they drop their albums to get some change and move over and let the young niggas from the south come through.

thats y we still here, cuz our numbers are increasin as far as niggas doin it.
yall hurtin rite now cuz yall cant get no radio and tv play from yall 35 year old or better legends.

and yall new generation was dick ridin the old school so long and not comin out with a new style that yall dont know what to do rite now.

just like filas went out of style, hip hop did. they still make filas, but niggas dont buy em. if u can understand that.

and that goes for pink wednesdays too

You dumb fuck you ever heard of Nasir Jones last time I checked his generation was the early 90's Hip-Hop.

Posted by: Xclusive BK Dude at September 12, 2006 04:04 PM

1) Exactly what has Nas done to make himself a legend? His first album was good, but he was disapointed about the album sales. So he "sold out" and switched to this mobster image. His third album was so-so. For his fourth album, he "sold out" again, and tried to buy into the flashy era of hip hop. That album ended up being trash. 5th album was tight again. 6th album was straight fire. For the 7th album, he tried too hard to be the rebel people expected him to be, and it came off as being fake political awareness. That album ended up sucking.

1 fire album and 3 good albums out of 7 do NOT make you a legend. More plays into being a legend than just hit albums anyways. Credibility plays a major part, and Nas lacks it in a major with all the inaccurate statements he makes in his music.

2) Last time I checked, Nas wasn't the one crying about NY being the center of the earth anyways, so what's your point? He doesn't even pertain to the conversation.

@NYC Ain't Shiiiiiit... & So True

Another worthless post. Cuz I'm sure NY being one of the largest cities in the world, the media capital or the world, as well as being home to some of the most respected educational institutions in the world has nothing to do with the price of real estate. Basic economics at work here fam. Get the fuck outta here & go pick up a book.

If you're proud to be from the ATL, good for you...hold down the homeland...but know what you're talking about before trying to trash someone else's city.

@white christmas

Ok. I hear you. No disrespect, but that wasn't the topic. My post was in response to people calling the Wu, Jay-Z, Nas & the like "old" when the South is home to some old ass rap heads too. Dre is 40 someting. M.O.P. is damn near 50. Em is like 30. Nelly is like 33. Again, they are everywhere.

I don't really care who's fans are complaining about what.

SUCK A SOUTH NIGGAS DICK RECKLESS!!!!!

LMFAO!!!! WE NEVER LIKED YOU LAMPSHADE WEARING, OVERSIZED HAT, YO YO YO SON. YO GOD, YO DUKE, ALWAYS HATING UP NORTH COCK SUCKERS.

NOW YOU NIGGAS AROUND HERE SCREAMING ABOUT Rap is dead rap is dead.

YALL NIGGAZ MAD CAUSE YALL AIN'T EATING.

FIRST 50 AND NO THE SOUTH!!!

WE NEED YALL TO HATE COCKSUUCKERS!!!!!

NEW YORK DID NOT START GRILLS OR NEITHER DID THE SOUF!
WHO MADE IT POPULAR? I DONT KNOW?

Gold teeth
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Gold dental fixtures, originally intended for dental restoration, have become a popular fashion trend amongst devotees to hip hop culture in the United States. While some rap musicians have had their gold teeth permanently attached to existing teeth, most people who purchase them for aesthetic purposes opt for removable gold teeth caps. In 2005, Nelly released the rap single Grillz which promotes the dental apparati. Commonly enscribed on "grills" are names of women, references to favorite substances, pictures and names.

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World War II
During the Holocaust, it has been alleged [1] [2] that gold teeth were harvested from the victims of Nazi concentration camps in order to be refined back into marketable gold.

David Robb, author of the book Operation Hollywood, has also cited that World War II United States Marines had removed gold teeth from Japanese soldiers. He said the following regarding the 2002 film Windtalkers:

"There was a scene in the film in which a soldier on the battlefield is seen creeping along after a battle in the Pacific, with a bayonet, pulling the gold teeth out of dead Japanese soldiers.
This really [was done] during WW2 by American marines. I actually have a tape showing a marine with a pair of pliers pulling the gold out of a dead Japanese soldier's mouth. The Marine corps, however, does not want this face of war being shown on film, so they said 'this has to go'."

Yall niggaz need to read b4 u speak cuz all of yall sound stupid

TEXAS BABY!

2 answer your quetion dirty south,
maybe because NY is the Mecca of Hip Hop, so there's a reason why respect is due.
Posted by: Huey Freeman at September 12, 2006 03:39 PM
The south is the Mecca of Jazz and Blues, so techincally everything that exisits in music started here. Where is the respect?
Timbaland, The Neptuens, and Jermaine Dupri are all southern producers. The whole new production style in the past 10 years originated from the south? Where is the respect?
The rap game has evolved far past battling on street corners in the Bronx, and NY had little to do with that. No one will ever give you credit if you're always bragging about your accomplishments.
For once in the history of Hip-Hop, NY just needs to shut the fuck up about what they did for the game. If you're truly deserving of recognition, you'll get it. It's hard to praise someone when you're being insulted by them though.
What makes it even dumber is who's doing the talking. You don't hear RUN-DMC or Eric B & Rakim going on and on about the legacy of NY. All this BS is comming from the new generation who hasn't even proven themselves to be legends yet.

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Posted by: RapIsDead at September 12, 2006 04:00 PM

So True. But New York still doesnt get it though.

down south keep comin back with new styles. no limit aint make yall dance - they made yall get on some soldier shit. thats what down south do, they switch up and let the young niggas come up, instead of trine to be the only tree on the block.

we plant seeds, and they grow, and reproduce, and the name lives on. yall legends kept it to themself, didnt put too many niggas on, and then got old. and when nas and jay-z leave, they didnt pass the baton to nobody. so i can imagine how yall gone be when jay really drops his last album

CIC

ITS STILL TRUE U AINT TALKIN BOUT NOTHIN

I don't understand how you could say that Pimp C doesn't sell records and his scene will soon be a thing of the past, but you admit that New York isn't selling records either and is already a thing of the past. Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

WHERES XCLUSIVE BK DORK

I WAS REALLY WAITING FOR YOUR ANSWER

OH I FORGOT ALL YOU DO IS COSIGN

@Cic

T.I. = 25
Z-Ro = 28
Ludacris = 28
Chamillionaire = 25
Slim Thug = 25
Mike Jones = 25
Paul Wall = 26
Lil Wayne = 24
Young Jeezy = 27
Young Dro = 26
DFB = 23
Lil Scrappy = 22
Young Buck = 25

It isn't even close homie. There has been an entire new generation of artists to arise from the south, and they greatly outnumber the old heads.

You need some REAL NY niggas writing for SOHH. I've met a few, so I know they're out there. New York is seriously being mis-represented by this idiot, having everyone think you all are as narrow-minded and stupid as he is.

Posted by: RapIsDead at September 12, 2006 02:16 PM
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THAT'S THE REAL RIGHT THERE!!!

@RapIsDead

No disrespect my dude but your off base here. Nas isn't a legend? You just removed all credibility from your argument with that one. Also, (the last time I say this)

CHECK THE RIAA WEBSITE. EACH-AND-EVERY-ONE-OF-NAS'S-ALBUMS-ARE-PLAT.

Having consistently strong sales isn't enough to make you a legend either, but I want you to acknowledge he's done the numbers.

It's all opinion so I can't take away yours...but every real hip hop head I know recognizes Nas as a legend. Even if they aren't a fan.

@So true.

Suck a dick. Obviously, you're too fucking dumb to comprehend what I "said".

Move on. This is the last time I address you too. I don't argue with fucks that aren't on my level. Holla back chump when you step your common-sense game up.

@All the stans from the South.

If you've brought anything constructive to this conversation then I'm not talking to you.

This just goes for the lames posting here with the pro-South tunnel vision.

Bounce. Go to the SOHH Houston blog.

@ anyone who hates on the south - and think we gone end

down south keep comin back with new styles. no limit aint make yall dance - they made yall get on some soldier shit. thats what down south do, they switch up and let the young niggas come up, instead of trine to be the only tree on the block.

we plant seeds, and they grow, and reproduce, and the name lives on. yall legends kept it to themself, didnt put too many niggas on, and then got old. and when nas and jay-z leave, they didnt pass the baton to nobody. so i can imagine how yall gone be when jay really drops his last album

WHERES XCLUSIVE BK DORK

I WAS REALLY WAITING FOR YOUR ANSWER

OH I FORGOT ALL YOU DO IS COSIGN

Posted by: SO TRUE at September 12, 2006 04:26 PM

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How about I'm at working finishing up a report b4 I go home to my big comfy bed while your unemployed dirty grill cornbread eating ass is on here 24/7 with no money in ya pocket E-Beefing with a bunch of ni99as tryna start a sword fight. Look fagget I got bills to pay so you can finish playing with ya little collard green blog buddies.

@RapIsDead

What isn't close? I didn't say every rap dude from the South is an old head. Just pointing out they're there. I could name just as many young cats from NYC.

New York neva fell off fools!!! it was rite there and yall didnt kno it...

Ok, some ig'nant ass NYC want to test me. I specifically said in my post that you NYC cats acquire no wealth right?

Some dude on here came back saying in a gist, "fuck ATL, it's hard to make it in NYC. The same house in GA that goes for 250K goes for 2 Mil in this city!"

The haters go on to mention that "this the richest city in the world, only the strong survive."

You jackass NYC cats proved my point about how educated Black people in ATL are. In ATL, we're about building wealth, not throwing all of our money away (1,500 dollars per month on a rat infested Brooklyn studio; with a family of 8) just for the pleasure of being able to occasionaly yell, "Brooklyn, stand up!"

In the words of one of the corny rappers y'all hate, Brooklyn, "Ho sit down..." Hip-Hop is just the undercurrent of why you assholes are so mad.

The real deal is you wish you could be living the life of five bedroom, 3.5 baths, 4 acre life that most of my people in ATL are living in. Where you at Dekalb? Fayette? Fulton?

If you're proud to pay 5 times what we pay, to live 5 times worse, be my fucking guest. We'll see 20 years from now who's really on top and who still sharing store brand Frosted Flakes with rats the size of Mr. Jinx from Meet The Parents.

In terms of Black people, ATL > NYC. Unless of course some of the people saying I'm wrong are descendants of old money Jewish people and European immigrants who truly run NYC, the rest of y'all, if you apologize, maybe I won't slap you with a stack in twenty years after Bloomberg's play to eradicate all of your black asses.

Black people in NYC have no political clout, hell, you assholes still aren't even allowed to be fireman without the Irish whooping your ass, haven't had a Black mayor since Public Enemy, and have the nerve to talk shit about a city where Black people are doing so much more than you on every level, not to ironically mention Hip-Hop. Once again, metro area ATL, stand the fuck up...

b4 i even read these weak ass comments this is the type of shit that starts coastal beefs.

pimp c got a point and the fact that he didnt sell only helps his argument man up nigga and change the game yourself
truth be told if it wasnt for jay/ja/50
then newyork would have been doing worst then this...

man up jay retired ja is over and you wont stop hating to 50 is gone so what do you expect nas to bring you back...

think about it nas best album didnt put a dent in the west coast movement.

he has newyork but the south and the west as a whole dosent really support him.

jay cant do it by himself there has always been other east coast artist that helped jay carry newyork...

from DMX to JA to 50 so what newyork needs now is the same as what the west needs which is new sounds and new faces...

but on the real you have to question sites like this are they helping hiphop
or helping destroy hiphop.

Posted by: Cic at September 12, 2006 04:31 PM

I'm Co-Signing!

Let these little illiterate cant finish 9th grade and put R's in every word they say ni99as eat a dick and die

DORK DUDE

YOUR BED IN YOUR 10 BY 6 FOOT APARTMENT WITH RATS AND ROACHES, DO YOU REALLY WANNA START ON WHOS ON HERE ALL DAY, BECAUSE IM NOT BUT THE FEW TIMES I DO LOG IN YOUR NAME IS ALWAYS PRESENT COSIGNING BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE AN OPINION OF YOUR OWN, SO GO AHEAD KEEP MAKIN YOUR STINKING 10 DOLLARS A HOUR, WHILE I MAKE 3 TIMES THAT AND GO HOME TO MY LUXURIOUS HOUSE, NOT APARTMENT

XBK:
Why it gotta be a R is every word...LOL

See how you do...I still luve yo tho! LMAO!!!!

@Cic

I am a Nas fan - even own a couple of his albums - but the nigga is just too up and down. He's like Snoop - hot one album, mediocre as hell the next. Both of them have classics under their belt, but neither one of them show any kind of consistancy in body of work or character.

As far as the old heads, the difference is down here, they aren't headliners. The biggest names in the south are T.I. and Ludacris. The biggest up and comer is Chamillionaire, and they dude that's finally comming into his own is Lil Wayne.

All the top acts in the south are young blood.

Dam I mean "in every word"! You know what I mean!!!

another thing grills been in the south/midwest for decades not only years

its apart of the culture not a trend like alot of things in newyork

no disrespect intended but you eastcoast niggas(some of you) are just sensative g i mean did you hear niggas in the south crying when 50 cent hoe ass make his lil comments or diss whateva u wanna call it towards the south? hell naw we wasnt crying cuz we gettin money nigga thats to prime objective niggas could giva a fuck about what he said but yall niggas have a heart attack when a nigga(Pimp C) say something about yall..........Let it go!

Agreed@k.ola

@ RapIsDead

Well the open minded, intelligent NY niggaz need to speak up more. Because the South is fed up with the "region hating." I mean this is 20+ years of New York talkin shit about the South. Thats why Pimp C said what he said. Niggaz like Mr. Reckless here just add fuel to the fire.

KSH:

LOL my bad 4 the stereotype mami you know I still gots love 4 u and all the sexy southern women that love them some NY ni99as(ex. Beyonce). But these stans on this site is very irritable and I have to address them like a man so please take no offense to my comments and just continue to laugh how you were just now.

@ KSH

u from mia?

@KSH

Whaddup ma? You still around? Hard day for your boy @ the office destroying stans...it's like some e-Dawn of the Dead type shit in here...mafuckas won't stop coming.

@RapisDead

I hear you fam. We're not agreeing here but are still keeping shit civil. I tip my hat to the boy for that. That's what I like to see. CONSTRUCTIVE conversation backed up by solid points. Not just the same ol' "my favorite artist & hometown is better than yours" argument.

To me, all of Nas's albums are fire except Nastradamus. Poor attempt to go commercial there. He brought it back with "Stillmatic". "Street's Disciple" went over a lot of dude's heads...but I thought it was still on point.

About the old heads...I'll give you that. It does seem at times the previous generation of East Coast rappers are having a hard time letting go. To their credit, some have been in the game a minute but are still dropping fire.

Ghostface being an example.

AGAIN TO THESE SOUTHERN IDIOTS

STOP COMPARING CHICKEN NOODLE SOUP TO LAFFY TAFFY

MAJOR DIFFERENCE

LAFFY TAFFY GROUP MEMBERS AGES 21-25 PROBABLY

CHICKEN NOODLE SOUP MEMBER AGE 16-18

MY POINT IS THAT SOUTHERN GROWN MEN ARE SO STUPID, THEIR MUSIC IS ONLY APPRECIATED BY 10 - 17 YEAR OLDS

YOUNG B'S AGE ACTUALLY FITS THE CROWD SHE IS ATTRACTING

SO REVERSE WHAT YALL DUMB ASSES IS SAYIN.....AND CHICKEN NOODLE IS WAY HOTTER THAN LAFFY TAFFY!

Posted by: WIT A SODA ON THE SIDE at September 12, 2006
it was written by a 30 to 40 year old dj from uptown nigga

laffy taffy is like a south jump around
is that the only niggas in the south yall can down play

and ill still rather hear D4l than that chicken bull shit

that south dick ridin if you ask me...

BK DORK = ASS KISSA

YOURE THE WACKEST OF THEM ALL, NY GOT PROBLEMS AND YOUR DUMB ASS WAY OF THINKING IS WHY

@ Cic
NYC top 5 wack rappers

1) mase
2) diddy
3) tony yayo
4) capadonna
5) lil cease
6) ja rule ( same sing a long atl is doin )

damn, thats six. i got more, but aine gone unload. i just want you to know wack rappers aint got nuttin to do with regoins. its just that every year some wak rappers get exposure. this year atlanta exposed some of theirs

yayo mase nad capadonna should not be on that list

yayo beats jim jones anyday, murder inc,
fat joe, gdep, inspector deck etc

stop hatin!!!

nigga respect me like your father when it comes to drama i put the lama to yo mama and beat her like a pinata classic yayo...

the chicken noodle soup was kinda cute to me.

im just glad that children can do children music instead of- can i be yo girlfriend and boyfriend- all the time.

i dont knock when a child comes out with child music. and i rather my daughter listen to that than some song promotin relationships and sex from another child

@Cic

Honestly, my favorite Nas album til this day is God's Son. I just felt like he was being himself. With the recent loss of his mother, he really didn't care about anything - he just put his heart into his music.

I can see why you would like them all though. That's just like ATL cats - we love Southernplayalistic, Coming Out Hard, and I'm Serious. Although they are good albums, they are very south-ish, and I acknolwedge that. I can see why some people wouldn't like them. As Pimp C once said "We don't make hip-hop records... These are country rap tunes"

The same thing goes with NY though. There is a lot of old Nas or BIG that's very NY-centric. I guess we all have our region bias. You don't have to like our music, but respect that it's just that - our music.

whitechristmas:
i live in alabama/georgia now but I was born and raised in Memphis TN.

XBK: You know I know how it is. And you can go to Utah with me anyday.

Cic: Yeah yall slaying dragons on this bitch. I been reading and laughing...lol

Yall know I am not that sensitive. I ain't mad at nobody but Reckless today...but I will be cool with him in the AM.

@K.Ola...

Aight...true. But slow down a little. Did you read my post? I said it wasn't anything targeted at the South. Fat Joe wack? You wildin now.

Capp is aight (not nice, but ok), I stand by that.

Shit, I'd throw one more in the mix:

Cam'ron. Fuck it. I think dudes is even wacker than Jim Jones.

Why do you niggaz insist on using the Wu tang Clan as your only example of "NY had grillz before the South" argument. That is a week ass example. One nigga had fangs in the early nineties and now all the sudden Ny invented grillz. I guess NYC invented rims too then? You up north cats are always trying to take credit for someone elses shit!

Did the whole entire Northeast Region rock fangs after that? No. So shut the fuck up! Fronts are not the same as a permanent grill! Niggaz in the South had their entire mouths covered in permanant gold back in the eighties. The only reason you niggaz dont believe it is because the South wasnt mainstream back then so you niggaz never saw what the hellwe were doing down here.

NY niggas had fronts back in the day not permanant grillz. Theres a big fuckin difference.

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My point exactly, niggas dont know what the fuc we was doin in the south back in 91 and shit. Nigga my 1st grade teacher had golds in her mouth and that was like in 1988.

@ KSH

my old boy live somewhere in alabama. i drove there with somone, and on my way back to mia, i tried to take a back road through GA, and got my ass lost. i ended up in albany somewhere, and had to take another back road to
I-10, and i lost all my money somewhere in GA and i was trine to get back to the MIA

IF HIP HOP IS NEW YORK THEN....
F U C K H I P H O P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm out...shouts to all my blog peoples...you know who you are.

lol why u call that nigga a dork@SO TRUE!

How is the south riding dick when all they play on the radio is southern music? Me being from the south, I just get tired of ya'll NYC niggas using "Laffy Taffy" as the theme song of the south. Most people in the South thought that song was stupid, but when you go the club hoes shake their ass to it. So what NYC got lyricists nobody wants to hear that shit, people like what they can understand, why do you think 50 dumbed down his lyrics....no it wasn't because he got shot, it was because people react better to shit they understand.

SHIESTY G

EVERYTHING DAT NIGGA SAY HE COSIGNING OR JUST SOUNDING LIKE AN IDIOT, I MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING CIC SAY BUT HE MAKES SOME GOOD POINTS AND YOU CAN TELL HE HAS A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE, BK DORK JUST REMIND ME OF THAT LITTLE NIGGA IN SCHHOL WHO ALWAYS WANTED TO BE POPULAR BUT COULD NEVER GET THERE BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNEW HE WAS WACK

white christmas:

Dam you were lost in Albany - dam! I don't do backroads I like interstates and signs...lol I live in Valley - 2 miles from the GA state line. I am about 1 hour from ATL -

Cic: Much luv pimpin!

MAN FUCK THIZ "IITY BITTY MINY MOE" MOTHAFUCKERS YA NIGGAS NOE YA GARBAGE ND "CAN'T SEE IT", IM TIRED OF THESE NIGGAS THINK THEY THA SHYT CUZ THERE BUBBLEGUM MUSIC IS BLOWIN UP, MAN FUCK THA SOUTH NOT ONLY R THEY GARBAGE BUT THEY TRYING 2 JACK OUR STYLE ND I HATE THAT SHYT WE ROCKED GRIILZ YRS AGO ND NOW THAT SHYT IS PLAYED OUT UP HERE, NIGGAS WEARING TIMS IN THERE VIDEO TRYING 2 BE LYK US, NIGGAS COME SHOPPING 2 NYC 2 COP OUR STYLE...FUCK THESE CLOWN ASS NIGGAS...REAL"NYC"TALK

In terms of Black people, ATL > NYC. Unless of course some of the people saying I'm wrong are descendants of old money Jewish people and European immigrants who truly run NYC, the rest of y'all, if you apologize, maybe I won't slap you with a stack in twenty years after Bloomberg's play to eradicate all of your black asses.

Black people in NYC have no political clout, hell, you assholes still aren't even allowed to be fireman without the Irish whooping your ass, haven't had a Black mayor since Public Enemy, and have the nerve to talk shit about a city where Black people are doing so much more than you on every level, not to ironically mention Hip-Hop. Once again, metro area ATL, stand the fuck up

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U speak nothin but the truth, paying rent is not cool. Why make some craker rich when you can own your own house for maybe less than what your currently payin in rent. Atlanta is the home of the black enterprise. Niggas my age trying to start they own shit, fuc working for somebody, start your own shit from the ground up. Nigga we get money in Atlanta, dont believe me, come down here and see these young black folk throwing money away. BLACK PEOPLE HAVE NO POWER IN NEW YORK. THIS IS A FACT.

BLACK PEOPLE RUN ATLANTA- THIS IS A FACT AS WELL.
Ivan Allen was the last white mayor of Atlanta, and his last term was in like 1968, real talk. We have an all black city council, black police chief, black fire chief. What the fuc yall got??? CRackers whoopin yall asses, givin yall orders, but yall turn and clown us like we some slaves??? Naw bruh, Atlanta is the mecca of black america. Its more young niggas gettin money in the A than a lil bit. I was tellin my patna from Cali the other day that its so many niggas with money in the A you have no choice but to grind as hard as you can, cuz if you dont grind you gonna be sick when you sittin in traffic next to a nigga in a brand new S class sittin clean, and your girl choosin him. NIGGA WE GETS MONEY IN ATLANTA DONT GET IT TWISTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I TRULY FEEL BAD FOR NEW YORK BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT YALL JUST PLAIN HATIN!!!
CUZ WHEN YALL WERE ON TOP NONE OF US WAS HATIN ON YALL WERE DOING BUT AS SOON AS WE GOT THA MIC YALL START CRYIN AND SHIT. YALL GO ACROSS THA STREET AND GET A RECORD DEAL WHILE WE DOWN HERE BUSTIN OUR ASS TO GET A RECORD DEAL. SO QUIT CRYIN AND RESPECT OUR HUSTLE CUZ HIP HOP MUSIC IS YALLS DOWN SOUTH MUZIC IS OURS!!! GOD DAMN YANKEES
IF HIP HOP IS NEW YORK THEN....
F U C K H I P H O P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!