Whatever Happened to the New School Bronx? Brooklyn Domination

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Remember Pun?

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As you can see from the above mural (there’s a couple in the area but I think this is the one on Westchester and 163 by White Castle as indicated by the 2/5 train above), the South Bronx is still holding on to the legacy that was birthed from the uprising of Christopher “Big Punisher” Rios. His rise to stardom not only highlighted the hip-hop roots of the BX borough, but reminded Latinos everywhere that they too played part in the jumpstart of hip-hop’s existence.

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The Original Terror Squad


Ahhh, the Bronx… one of the two places I call home. It’s no secret that the Bronx started hip-hop, but if someone was to erase the passed few years out of the hip-hop history book, the Bronx would be nearly forgotten. In fact, to a blinded idiot, Brooklyn could do a damn good job of extorting the title. Why is it that the bestâ€"and most successfulâ€"rappers out of NYC are from BK?

Another thing is that up-and-comers like Saigon, Papoose, Red Café and Maino are only coming out of Brooklyn. Where’s The Bronx's underground buzz? I have a million and one mixtapes, and Cory Gunz seems to be the only one indicating the slightest sign of life left in the Boogie Down. No, I don’t wanna hear “Lean Back,” ‘cause Terror Squad, Fat Joe, Remy Maâ€"whoeverâ€"aren’t moving units, so they don’t count.

Biggie and Jay-Z are Brooklyn legends. Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Memphis Bleek and Fabolous once held it down. Busta Rhymes is putting in work for this New New York movement. Even the most successful females in rap, such as Lil’ Kim and Foxy Brown, come straight from BK; the BX has yet to give a female MC a platinum plaque.

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The Mother and Father of hip-hop is still alive, yet it’s failing to reproduce. Why aren’t any new acts emerging from out of the Bronx? Why didn’t Lord Tariq and Peter Gunz (“Uptown Baby") continue the Bronx movement? Why did it have to stop with Big Pun?

Bronx, where’s the hip-hop?

364 Comments

i'm turning into a dog

1st bitches


First, Bitches!!!!!!

new york has no chance of a "comeback" in the anytime near furute. Fuck bitch-set and G-unot. While the real NY emcees cant get any airplay(dmx, nas, jadakiss).

P.S. Good luck to pap who isnt gunna make any noise outsid of the tri-state.

djmileshigh

ny will make a comeback you dumb ass.you think just because south has run shit for a minute you think you can say that shit.ny been on top for 25 years.i think if the east and the west came together we would be unstopable.look at 50 and game.they made a good calbo.i dont want to start a south east war in this blog so anyways on the topic.


yeah we all know the bronx started hip hop.but they did die they got no one out there holdin it down right now. i think after big pun died they started to fall off.bk been puttin it down for a decade now.queens is right next to bk with some big names.

shout out to bigup2bk.i know your going to like this blog.shout out to the real niggas on this site.im out peace.

The only emcees I see reppin the BX is Hell Rell ,Cory Gunz,and maybe(just maybe),Remy Ma. That's all

NY has a lot of opportunity to come back. Its radio and tv that is stuck on that bullshit. Eventually the streets will have their say and good music, whether NY, LA or south will be back. Jay-Z, Luda, Snoop all have hot albums coming. Plus a lot of new dudes like Lupe, Saigon, and others have been showing some promise. Back to real hip hop

NY will come back unfortunitly you won't even know it cause the radio is saying snap rap is the thing now(NYC are lyricist). Alot of these sole called hip hop fan's wouldn't know what a real emcee was even if they fell out of the sky and hit them on the head. With that being said go and listen to Papoose and Saigon(new blood) and get you some real hip hop. Oh and if you want to hear a man spit real lyrics way before his time in the 80's Rakim my personal favorite of his "In the Ghetto". my 2 cents

SHOUT OUT 2 MY MUTHAFUCKIN' SELF!

Brooklyn been holding it down b4 B.I.G. and b4 Jay. We had Kaine, ODB, Ghost Face is from brooklyn, ETC. So yeah we had plenty of MC's that have tasted success. I feel for the BX bcuz yeah they the ones who created it but Brooklyn stay taking shyt. But I still haven't heard a joint from Cory Gunz...anybody know if he can spit???

As for Pap, Saigon and Red Cafe' they need to hurry up and drop something FAST bcuz the streets been waiting for a minute now. Soon ni99as gonna get upset and ain't gonna support them due to the fact they had us waiting for so long.

I wanna know???

WTF HAPPENED TO MR. CHEEKS???!

learn to relax in my room and escape from New York
And Return through the womb of the world as a thought
Thinkin how hard it was to be born
Me being cream with no physical form
Millions of cells with one destination
To reach the best part that's life's creation
Nine months later a job well done
Make way cause here I come
Since I made it this far can't stop now
There's a will and a way and I got the know-how
To be all there is to be and more
To see all there is to see before
I'm called to go back to the essence
It's a lot to learn so I studied my lessons
I thought the ghetto was the worst that could happen to me
I'm glad I listened when my father was rapping to me
Cause back in the days they lived in caves
Exiled from the original man and strayed away
Now that's what I call hard times
I'd rather be here to exercise the mind
Then I take a thought around the world twice
From knowledge the form back to knowledge precise
Across the desert that's hot as the Arabian
But they couldn't cave me in cause I'm the Asian
Reaching for the city of Mecca visit Medina
Visions of Nefertiti then I seen her
Mind keeps travelin I'll be back after I
Stop and think about the brothers and sisters in Africa
Return the thought through the eye of a needle
For miles I fought and I just fought the people
Under the darks skies on a dark side
Not only there but right here's an aparthied
So now is the time for us to react
Take a trip through the mind and when you get back
Understand your third eye seen all of that
It aint where you from it's where you at
Even the "Ghetto" Rakim

His shit is still phenomenal to me till this day

I feel for the BX bcuz yeah they the ones who created it but Brooklyn stay taking shyt. But I still haven't heard a joint from Cory Gunz...anybody know if he can spit???
Posted by: Xclusive BK Dude at August 3, 2006 08:13 AM

Xclusive BK Dude

Corey gunz is alright need's to keep working on it. He's still young. Here is cut with him and Lil Wayne.

http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=1853

Jumping up six slots on the charts this week is Busta Rhymes, moving up to No. 26. Busta-Bus is still reppin' for the BK, cashing in with The Big Bang at 449,800 discs pushed thus far. This week, the 7-day cycle has ended at 26,200, compared to 22,100 last week.

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Thats what happened to the new school Bronx, they flopped just like Busta did.

Im from the x so i had to comment...cory gunz iz wack,who takes him serious?..hell rell iz under some harlem niggas buuuttt he's cool,remy martin iz wack i dont know why niggas think she's nice (jean grae,bahamadia,real fem mc's)..fuckin male groupies right? right..i've been from 241st to castle hill and have ran into some underground spitters as well as the mainstream type flow niggas...i dont know..

And I aint mad at da south but I bet we gon tear da club up soon worldwide when theez Crooklyn Niggas drop cuz they fire and I went 2 school with them
Peep them out at www.myspace.com/dahandsums.
Bucktown lets get em!
NYC stand up!!!

BROOKLYN!!!! wHAT MORE CAN U SAY?

oh yeah to you cornballs who post up..1ST and 2ND on these spots ya'll niggas have no life..

Found this by accident. Funny as hell. It's a hip hop weakest link

http://youtube.com/watch?v=563gMAgwnEE&mode=related&search=

"BROOKLYN KEEPS ON TAKIN IT" Home of the Deceps and Lo Lifes, AND the Greatest MC's are local niggas! (B.I.G and Hova)

The mecca, da jungle, BUCKTOWN U.S.A!

Much love to the BX though...Hell, Fat Joe and Cory Gunz is still holding ya'll down...

Reckless

Now that's a good look....I will be back on little later to comment on the topic...

So lemme get this shit straight... You New York bastards would rather give props to some fuckin mexicans than to niggas from the south?! You can at least give props to southern niggas for doin somethin creative and different with the shit. Southern niggas do somethin other than spittin metaphors over sorry corny ass beats (I'm talkin to you, New York!) And you sons a bitches do nothin but complain. When the west had it and changed it up, you hated. Now that the south has it and changed it, you're hatin. You niggas are some jealous, resentful and hateful assholes.

To me Hell Rell holds down the Bronx and it seems like the Bronx got respect for rell I could be wrong but I think I am right with this one. Jim Jones he just signed a deal for Stack Bundles from Queens to Byrd Gang Records and had Red Cafe on his remix to his new song "Fly High" and Cafe is from brooklyn so they makin moves right now. Just look at it like this they got a gang of niggas from Harlem, then they got Hell Rell from the Bronx then they got Stack Bundles from Queens I mean whats next Brooklyn. I mean before u know it they will have a nigga from every Borough now put the hate down for one second and tell me what other new york team can say that they got a nigga from every borough, they cant because there not makin moves.

This is really off topic:

The Bronx has the tightest women in New York. Fuck that rap shit, the Bronx women got it.

This is Georgia talking!

fuck big pun! im glad he dead!!!

So lemme get this shit straight... You New York bastards would rather give props to some fuckin mexicans than to niggas from the south?! You can at least give props to southern niggas for doin somethin creative and different with the shit. Southern niggas do somethin other than spittin metaphors over sorry corny ass beats (I'm talkin to you, New York!) And you sons a bitches do nothin but complain. When the west had it and changed it up, you hated. Now that the south has it and changed it, you're hatin. You niggas are some jealous, resentful and hateful assholes.

Posted by: FuckNY at August 3, 2006 09:01 AM

Don't know what your talking about cause when the west had it. NYC was bumping it. That chronic album Dre and Snoop was a master piece and the NWA day's were getting love. As for the south they were listening to Scarface, Ghetto Boyz and all that. These day's you have T.I.P, Lil Wayne, Luda and Bun B I know there more but the thing is there embraced. What alot of people don't like is the radio forcing snap rap and that's all that get's played. Yes, it came from the south and I don't like it but I also didn't like Puffy for the garbage music he put out in the 90's too(And Yung Joc). So I'm not so sure why your so sour at NYC for. I'm a fan of good hip hop.

Mane aint nobody from brooklyn, Bronx, wherever gonna do shit unitl yall step yall game off with them beats. It never ceases to amaze me how yall might be bangin a track so hard, but the beat is the wackest shit ever. Stop trying to freestyle in cypher ang get yall asses on them pro-tools

NYC= tired ass beatmakers

This if off topic too, but since they don't have a SOHH West blog...how y'all feel about Snoop being appointed president of the newly created KOCH West. He talking about putting everybody on that need some shine from the West. He got a whole movement he about to kick off.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.4334

YOU SHUT DA HELL HELL UP, YOU SASID THE MEMPHIS BLEKK ONCE HELD IT DOWN, ALL HE EVER HELD DOWN WERE JAY-Z'S BAGS OF WEED

yo the south is real hip hop yo!
its just they version of it.
just cause mah fucks dont follow it like that dont mean its not real!
down there (and all over!!) they feeling that shit!
idiots dont that say something!?
leave it be!
music "you" may like isnt hittin right now but that dont mean the south (east west and midwest) isnt poppin!
give it time!
niggas need to focus on music and not rap just to get money but that another thing!

i gotta drop a quick testimonal, great blog because how is it that the birthplace of music so big like hiphop has no champions in the game past or present(beside big pun)? i'm thinking the bronx should be flooded with top-notch artists like motown back in the day. really, you have to go back 15 to 20 yrs. to find decent bronx rappers like tim dawg, ultramagnetic, or my favorite 9(nine)..great blog reckless, you deserve employee of the month on this one.lol

i'm thinking the bronx should be flooded with top-notch artists like motown back in the day. really, you have to go back 15 to 20 yrs. to find decent bronx rappers like tim dawg, ultramagnetic, or my favorite 9(nine)..great blog reckless, you deserve employee of the month on this one.lol

Posted by: blowitoutchaass at August 3, 2006 09:38 AM

blowitoutchaass

No not that far back dog. The Bronx had Diggin in the Crates crew 80's. Show Biz and AG, Lord Finesse, Diamond, Buckwild they also had Big L(harlem) RIP

But yes Brooklyn has been nasty with thier's for past years and Queeen's not to far behind

fuck big pun! im glad he dead!!!
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Thats not cool.. God dont like ugly.. NEVER WISH DEATH ON A PERSON. I GUESS THATS WHY YOU SAY WHO YOU ARE!! Who ever is in charge of this blog should have erased that!!! and Im not even from the NY.. but I dont wish death on nobody!!!

How can I forget Blast Masta KRS ONE even though he was born in brooklyn but was raised and repped the boogie down bronx

i feel you my 2 cents, pologround crew was sumthin fierce. dont forget oc, fat joe, and brand nubians. wait minute, speaking of diamond d that busta rhyme on my new york shit is a diamond ole beat, right

Ok ;im not gettin at the south right now.... Im gettin at theses BK niggas on this thread talking about "yeah we got the best mc's bla blah".....that is why NY is not on top cuz everybody wanna be divided on some whos the best borough sh1t.

you dont see Atl beefin with H-town or N.o. beefin with memphis,thats why them niccas on top right now.ANd we crying about not gettin sh1t right!

Yall down south niccas enjoy your shine! I feel yall sh1t(not all of it).

WHile NY gets its sh1t together

So lemme get this shit straight... You New York bastards would rather give props to some fuckin mexicans than to niggas from the south?! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^All props go to Ron Mexico.

I'm sorry to break it to you Bronx cats, but Brooklyn has far more superior talent then you.

1. Brooklyn
2. Queens

Thats how it goes, sorry but the rest just terrible.

You could go down the list of all the Queens and BK rappers and then do the Bronx and BK Queens would just blow the BX outta the water.

i respect that get ya mind right, because i cant wait either for some uplifting music beside trap songs. and i'm a georgia boy

It aint only the BX what happen to staten island. After wutang nothing never came out of staten island. But the funny thing is a lot of niggas want go to neither of these 2 boroughs talking that tough talk though. BX is gangsta believe that, SI = Strong island.

thank you for this blog cu finally some1 speaking the truth. you cant argue with facts.

ps... foxy went to my high skool, and so did angie martinez & spike lee


SEE... BROOKLYN IN WHERE ITS AT

blowitoutchaass

Yea, It was Diamond D's beat on "I Went For Mine" I beleive OC was brooklyn though and I thought Brand Nubian was from New Rochelle

***IS

FOR THESE BROOKLYN NIGGAZ ON HERE POPPIN SHIT...

RAP STARTED IN THE BRONX CAUSE THE BRONX IS SUCH A REAL FUCKIN PLACE....

IF RAP IS THE STREETS...THEN THAT MEANS NIGGAZ TOOK THE BRONX STREET CODES AND WENT WITH THAT....INCLUDING BROOKLYN

BROOKLYN YALL TALKING FLY SHIT...."BUT IF IT WASNT FOR THE BRONX".....YOU WOULD HAVE NO MEDIUM TO SCREAM OUT BROOKLYN

AND I DONT THINK THE REAL REAL STREETS LIKE THE BRONX WILL EVER PUT OUT TOO MANY ARTISTS CAUSE NIGGAZ IN THE BRONX LOVE THE STREETS TOO MUCH

OBVIOUSLY BROOKLYN CANT BE THAT HARD IF EVERYBODY BEING STUDIO GANGSTARS....
RAP JUST EVOLVED FROM WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE STREETS AND HOODS OF THE X

YOU CANT BE THE ILLEST RAPPER IN THE BUSINESS AND PLAY THE STREETS AT THE SAME TIME......A BROOKLYN NIGGA WILL MAKE YOU THINK HE IS DOING BOTH

BRONX NIGGAZ IS POOR AND REALLY IN THE STREETS....THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE NIGGAZ FROM OTHER BURROUGHS KNOW NOT TO COME THROUGH AND EVEN SPEAK SIDEWAYS

AGAIN THE BRONX IS TOO HOOD FOR NIGGAZ TO EVEN THINK OF A WAY OUT......WE DISCUSS RAP AND KNOW WE WHERE IT STARTED AT.....BUT I SWEAR BRONX NIGGAZ WOULD RATHER PLAY THE STREETS THAN TO PLAY A BEAT

AND ALL YALL SHITTIN ON THE BRONX......YOU CANT BE TRUE RAP FANS....THATS LIKE A MUSLIM YELLING FUCK MECCA.....CLOWN ASS NIGGAZ

THATS WHY WHEN WE DO DROP A DEJA VU OR LEAN BACK THE WORLD LOVE IT.....CAUSE ITS THE BOOGIE DOWN BRONX

TELL BROOKLYN YOU LIVIN A GOOD LIFE...YOU NEED TO THANK THE BRONX....
AND GO HEAD AND CLAIM DOMINATION OF RAP......YALL FOLLOWED THE BRONX.....AND ALL THE BRONX DO IS DOMINATE THE STREETS NIGGAS!

RESPECT THE X.....WE EVEN GOT THE YANKESS.....STARTED RAP.....BADDEST MIX OF BITCHES.....BOOGIE DOWN BRONX

respect the x....

you cant fight the facts. no one said that the X didn't start hip hop, we just sayin that brooklyn got it now. aint no one outa the X "hot" now, orwithin the last five yrs or so

i think the problem with the bronx, is just what u said, street(maybe 2 street)! hiphop started from the bronx but why didnt the birthplace follow the movemment with it to new horizons. i love hiphop and thank you for putting the world on to it, but its a real question and the only person holding down the bronx is really fat joe and big tigger.

LMAO @ these fools on here thinking the south on top, because, the record labels are paying hot 97large sums of money to play that snap garbage. Hahahahahaha.

You can't be serious.

Also, LMAO @ that bullshit song "Shoulder Lean". That nikka said he got a "Lima Bean 6", WTF??....Hahahaha...What a clown.

This nikka then say's "You look like pork & Bean" , wtf??....Hahahahahha...what a herb.

This nikka also says "Do the shoulder lean, But, I don't know how to dance though... I'm punkin monkeys", again, WTF???......hahahahahaha...what an idiot.

You can't be serious. LMAO

Yo, the Savataj is from the BX, reppin' 167 hard. peep their site, www.savataj.com

I'm sorry to break it to you Bronx cats, but Brooklyn has far more superior talent then you.

1. Brooklyn
2. Queens

Thats how it goes, sorry but the rest just terrible.

You could go down the list of all the Queens and BK rappers and then do the Bronx and BK Queens would just blow the BX outta the water.

Posted by: A Pimp Named Slickback at August 3, 2006 10:13 AM

i'm cosignin'...q boro all day

it is a damm shame that the other boros/sections are outshining the bronx...i expected since it was the creator of hip hop it would have the most original MCs right now...ain't that a b----?

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