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Harlem Would be Better off With Big L

Written by SOHH Reckless

Posted on August 16, 2006 4:24 AM

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Arguably one of the fiercest representatives of Harlem, 139th and Lenox's Big L still lives on as one of The Danger Zone's most talked about. He had a series of underground hits that were his underlying vehicle to the tip of mainstream stardom; some of which include "Da Graveyard" and "Ebonics."

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Before he could move further than his role in DITC (Diggin' in the Crates), L was shot right around the corner from his house on the evening of February 15, 1999.

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The era of Mase has passed and, taking into consideration his senseless behavior, will probably be gone forever. How do you go from Harlem World to Harlem's Fool? How do you hold down the 'hood, then turn around and shit on the people that believed in you? How do you represent as one of Harlem's icons and turn around and disrespect? I'm sure no one really cares at the moment, but for those who do, they're all saying the same thing: Mase has lost his way, and ALL credibility. They say he left because he was afraid of being the next victim on the other side of the glock, but regardless of the situation, there's other ways to handle fright.

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Now the Dipset "movement" has followedâ€"though not nearly as successfully (with the exception of Cam'ron). They're hot in the streets, but that's all that stands for them. Besides that, Harlem is dry. A piece of trash blowing in the wind. A puddle of piss in the back of the 2 train. The Heights with no haze. Hip-hop with no Kool Herc or Flash.

So, where would Harlem be had Big L still been here? I believe, looking at the heavy swagger in his lyrics that Harlem would be doing much better at this moment in time. With all the garbage Harlem is putting out, it's apparent that it takes a leader in order for others to step their game up.

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154 Comments

Immortal Technique=Harlem

big Ell was dope though, and like i've said b4, i'd rather hear 3-6 mafia acapella than a dipdet song. fuck em, peace

this is some bullshit B. Just coz a nigga dead, he could have made a heavy impact. When L was alive noone gave shit about dude, He supposedly helped Mase get on as yall want to believe, but Mase got on his grind and got shit moving for him, lf L had that much impact then he would have been big way before his death. l hate you mufuckers who only recognise someone when they dead. Look what is happening to the real cats who can spit, they never sell, if L was here he would still be that good underground cat always on the verge of major stardom, just like papoose, nigga is never gonna be as big as he thinks he is about to be. Camron is doing his thing, Mase is not crazy, it`s guys like you who paint harlem`s finest as crazy. ls there any song that Mase done that you can say was wack. Nigga is the best thing to come out of Harlem, but you wanna down play him for playing on both sides of the fence, but can really break it down if given the mic. l bet your God Jay Z, thinks twice if he was to battle with Mase, He knows that boy is pure murda and everybody knows that Mase is not one cat to fuck with. yall can say whatever you want, but if you was to meet him one on one, yall be running coz we all know what son is about, not what yall cats try to put in them internet kids heads thinking they kno the streets because of what they see on TV and say on these blogs. You think l`m sweet, taste me and see how much you really want.

l pop a lot of shit coz l can back it up, see thats the difference.

huh? Mase is about shiny suits and dance move, fuck r u talkin about? b4 L died he was being courted be Rocafella and everyother major hiphop record label at the time so i doubt he would have remained underground. Lifestylez of the rich and shameless, one of my top 10 hiphop albums of all time.

Ask beavis i get nothin but head...classic isht.

Big L was the shit
Jigga still is the shit
Dipset sould chance their name to the Dipshits or Where all homos... Yeah that warks for them. CAM your a bitch and thats from the heart

Big L was the shit
Jigga still is the shit
Dipset sould chance their name to the Dipshits or Where all homos... Yeah that works for them. CAM your a bitch and thats from the heart

I cant front cam been in the game for A WHILE now and can spit when you LISTEN TO THE WORDPLAY,dem cats iz gettin paper so u cant hate BUT harlem iz following the path of every other borough in now y...which iz that murda murda talk...

No one cared about him while he was alive?

You must be talking about herbs such as yourself.

All the nasty posthumous comments can now be made.

Asking what impact he would've had is just futile speculation. Knowing how fickle the game is can you honestly say what impact Papoose is gonna have if he's gone tomorrow?

Big L was a top-notch lyricist who got oustd before his impact could be properly felt. All those hip-hop cunnilinguists (Ma$e included) that run around saying they ghost-wrote for him are just capitalizing on his reputation as maybe one of the greatest of all time.

Funny how BIG and Big L died at 24, Tupac died at 25.

I agree with most of the what that nucca said.

It does seem like we really start paying attention to a mothafucka once he is dead or got shot or some dumb shit. I mean we have seen it enough times this year with Proof, Obie Trice, and Beanie Sigel alone. I say if you don't talk about them before they get shot don't make it seem like they are some kind of king of kings afterwards. Let us know what happened and keep it movin'. This is no disrespect to the artists, but more of the media. The shit people would do or say to make a story.

Which leads me to Mase. Mase is just trying to find his way like any other nigga this is not as big as people want to make it. All of us has a friend or family member who was doing something they didn't like found God and after a period of time went back to doing the same shit. Mase is confused right now, but he will eventually find his way. If he hadn't "sold his soul to the devil" as some of yall like to say this shit wouldn't even be talked about.

I didn't really listen to Big L so I can't comment on his talent, but I will take yall word for it.

Well said J-money. The media is the reason that we glorify DMX's coke escapades and his struggles with spirituality, yet we find Mase's back and forth movement as a pastor/gangsta repugnant, repugnant I say! LOL

Entertainers are full of shit but I expect that because I see pieces of my in each of them.

AYO J-MONEY, U SISTER STILL GETTIN BRAINWASHED BY THOSE CAM SONGS? HAHA, I SEE HER OUTSIDE MY WINDOW RIGHT NOW, SHE WITH SUM NIGGAZ, I THINK THEY GOT SOMETHING FOR HER FACE AND IT AIN'T PROACTIVE. HAHAHAHAH!! NIGGAZ YOU'ZE A PUSSY, DO SUMTHIN, BITCH NIGGA, LETTIN HIS SIS GET FUCKED, U MUTHA MUST BE ASHAMED OF YOU.

Finally, Reckless is discussing what I have been saying for years...Harlem has'nt had a real MC since Big L. For all you Young Whipper-snappers new to this rap shit, Big L fathered all these Harlem cats, especially Mase and Cam. Lyrically, he was the reason niggas gave a fuck about Harlem. Listen to the "The Big Picture" (big L's last album) and then listen to any album put out by any Harlem cat and the current quality of music is not even close. Could Mase or Dipset even come up with a "Ebonics"? Since the greats died, no one ( with the exception of Jigga man) has taken the torch to take their bourough to the next level. The fact that Mase had the whole country saying "you know Harlem is back, who in the world got a problem with that?" should have told you the state of Harlem rap at the time. Not that I really give a fuck, I'm originally from Brooklyn, but can somebody bring real hiphop back to Harlem? Stand up for that.

@O.G.Loc

I don't know what the fuck you talking about, but you sound like the pussy. It's 8 o'clock in the morning and you on the computer e-beefing and shit. Nigga get a fuckin life and don't speak on my sister nigga you don't fuckin know me.

Thanks ODEMIC. I been waiting for a topic like this. SOHH RECKLESS has really had some good topics this week.

Dip Set is currently running this rap shyt. Bmore cats stay bumpin Dip Set all day and for good reason. Jimmy spits that truth and Cam spits that fire. If you a hater its obvious you aint in the street. Maybe yall should get one of the corny down south rappers that all sound alike album like D4L or Chamillionare or whoever. Big L would have probably been down with Dip Set or down a lot of work with them. That new Jim Jones mixtape Members of Byrdgame is defiantely on point.

that nucca:

Have you heard Welcome Back, Breathe Stretch Shake. Get the kcuf outta here with that. Dolphin head (Ma$e), been whack after the shiny suit era. He sounds slow as hell (and I don't mean his flow). JZ scared of Mase...Have you been on comicview lately. People would be running if they saw Mase cause he would be saying "God bless Jimmy". Gay unit Fag.

Yo Real Talk. Its a bad thing, But nobody would Be paying Heavy attention to Big L if he was still alive. Cuz He only recieved 5 mics and all the acclaim When he died... Its a damn shame, when artist Die they end up being praised as the best... and end up selling more records than they did when they were alive...

Harlem is the weakest borough of New York,with the exception of BIG L(R.I.P)they all suck, DIPSET is the reason why hiphop is dying and they from Harlem, Fuck that moron called Cam'ron. ONE!

Harlem is not a borough...dumb ass

This n---- Tray_J cannot be from NYC if he refers Harlem as a boro.

HARLEM IS OVER CAMRON RAPS SOUND LIKE A KINDERGARTEN RHYME,MASE IS BEING SLAVED BY PUFF AFTER MASE MADE HIM MONEY, JUELZ HOLDS HARLEM RIGHT NOW LEAVE L ALONE LET HIM REST IN PEACE

Anybody who says Big L wasnt that sick wit it or he would still be underground knows absolutely nothin about real lyricists. Big L was probably one of the most versatile and straight up talented niggas out. Jigga, Mase, Loon, Dipset all of them have bitten L's swagger in some way. Its bigger than Harlem. Rap in general would be in a better place if he were alive cuz niggas woulda had to step it up and bring they A-Game.

"All I got for hoes is hard dick and bubblegum"

"Im so ahead of my time my parents havent met yet" (quotes from L that have been jacked)

Harlem is not out, all about timing soon we shall see another lammont colemon, he was a monster no 1 can touch hes punchlines

"knocked out so many teeth, even the toothfairy went bankrupt"

rip big l, greatest ever

"How come you can listen to my first album and tell where a lot of niggaz go thier whole style from" -Big L

If yall dont know Jay-Z got his flow from Big L. That nigga Hov was spitting that foo schnikins shyt before he met L. Jigga was also on Big L's first album. Big L to me is in the top 2 to ever do it. Its a toss up between him and Biggie. And honestly he changed the game with his first album. Niggaz wasnt spitting the way they spit now before that nigga first album came out. I fucks wit Dip set. And for those that dont yall probably cant understand the terminology in the lyrics so it sounds dumb to you. Yall aint from the city so yall cant relate. But Big L was one of the greatest. Go listen to that 8 minute freestyle he has with Jay-Z and see how he killed Hov on that shyt. Dont get me wrong Hov is the best thing doing it right now. But the game aint he same. He is the last of a dyin breed. Niggaz aint spitting the way they used to spit a decade ago...

"BIG L REST IN PEACE"

God damn shame he didn't get a chance to really really blow. This boy was sick. I got almost every song he ever did. His freestyles with Stretch Armstrong are legendary. He would destroy Cam or Mase. To bad he never got the shot. Another tragedy in hip hop.

First off Shout out to all my H.World comrades... Kurtis Blow Big L Immortal Cam Black Rob Mase Loon my nigga Stan Bravo who's from Harlem now doing his thing in Sydney Aus and anybody else I forgot to mention that did anything to rep Harlem.

HipHop music is dry period..it doesn't matter where you from.
As far as Big L ( God Bless the dead) goes..every body that listens to real rap music for lyrical content will tell you that boy was crazy...Harlem ain't dry..we're just taking a lil nap..but we'll be up real soon once my nigga Stan Bravo puts his album out in Oct..remember where you heard it first..

Harlem World till I leave this world...

Sun Tzu

I miss that Dude, Big L, man….

It sad that he caught a bad 1

Yeah Reckless everything you said about Mase I cosign.

Fuck Mase…and that coming from a nigga reppin the borough of East New York…lol….let me stop fucking around….I think the Godson just made a mistake…no big deal…keep that shit moving, son.

I've never heard Big L but I've heard of him. I've been listening to hip hop since 81 and I've seen a lot of mc's come and go. It always seems that some cats aren't really appreciated until their dead. Pac and Big are always mentioned but they were hot alive. All I know about L is he was underground and I didn't really know about him until The Source gave him 5 mics posthumously back in 99. I read some of his lyrics and they were hot but I've heard Nas, Jay-Z, some early Cam ron and Rakim. Them brothas were just as cold as he was. Some of them still are. I don't have dipset hate because I respect any brother that's hustling. Besides, some of their shit is hot. Point is, whose to know that L would have blown up if he were alive today. I've seen a few guys that were first album fire and the second wasn't shit.

Fuck Mase…and that coming from a nigga reppin the borough of East New York…lol…. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ YO WHAT PART OF THE EAST YOU FROM SON

A Boogie:

Without revealing to much near Liberty and Linwood.

By the way, England Represent I heard you say you are in BK ... sign on and let me know where you are going to be at today...no doubt.

Why are you Harlem dudes always downing and hating Mase? If it wasn't for him, Harlem wouldn't even be MENTIONED in the rap game period! Nationally, we wouldn't even know who Cam or Big L was...that family tree alone eliminates Juelz, Loon, Jimmy, Hell Rell, JR Writer, the rest of the dip gang, and even Nelly b/c Cudda Love is Nelly's manager. He really is the original Harlem Representer! No disrespect to Harlem, but the brother left to get his life right with God..."If you can't respect that your whole perspective is whack"...By the way, say what you want, but Mase is STILL better than anyone else from Harlem lyrically...Did anyone hear the 10 years of Hate mixtape????????? I'd say I'm from the A now too if my own hood was that hateful to me. Get down with the click or get found in a ditch. Period.

L Boogie:

I am not a Harlem Cat but for me Mase’s pure hypocrisy makes me say “Fuck Mase”.

AHHHH....NOW THATS THA SOHH RECKLESS THAT I KNOW...
THA SPINELESS, NON-WRITING, JAY DICKRIDING NIGGA THAT WE'VE ALL GROWN ACCUSTOMED TO.

We were long overdue for some DIPSET hating...THANKS
NOW ALL THA USUAL SUSPECTS CAN COME OUT AND RANT ABOUT HOW DUMB THA "DIPSHITS" ARE(VERY CLEVER BY THA WAY!)
Ya'll love to jock Killa and Jimmy but ya'll dont talk about what them niggaz do for tha community...
You say all they have is tha hood behind em...thats what you're supposed to have...Ya'll sellout ass niggaz wanna sell records for Becky and Steve, while tha DIPS are keepin it real and re-investing into tha community...Ya'll some suckaduck ass niggaz...GET A LIFE!

THA KING HAS SPOKEN!
R.I.P BIG L!
Gauranteed BIG L would be a DIPSET representa.
"DIPSET ALL MUTHAFUCKIN DAY!"

I ain't even read any post yet but i gotta say I have always held L in high esteem......I still bang this mixtape my DJ made for me from cuts he found here n there....

Anyone who knows me know i think Jay is mad tight...but on the 8...or was it 7 minute freestyle Big L made Jigga look like an ass when it came to competing flows!!

The man was legendary even before his death.....Like my man Premier did on the intro for Full Clip, i want one side to scream BIG L n the other side REST IN PEACE.....now let me read yall posts...

pamoja!!!

When and how did any of this happen?->"How do you hold down the 'hood, then turn around and shit on the people that believed in you? How do you represent as one of Harlem's icons and turn around and disrespect?"

I'd like a little more info please, because that just sounds like a baseless claim.

Same thing happened with 50...That's why he says "F the Hood, Fluck New York City"...He brought prominence to New York that demanded respect (11 mil sold) and he still got hated by crabs in a barrell. At the end of the day, a man is a man...Grown men have to make decisions that better themselves and you can't always worry about what the "hood" thinks. The "hood" mentality is why so many of us are still in the "hood"...I love my black people, but instead of embracing each other for who we are, we find ways to throw stones, tomatoes, and everything else at our public figures (rappers or not) like NO other race does...And if we don't respect the people that represent us in the media, when will we ever get the respect that we deserve day to day from people who aren't exposed to us any place but in the media?

BIG L WAS THE MOST TALENTED MUTHAFUKA COMMIN OUTTA HARLEM-GET THIS-BACK WHEN HE WAS ALIVE!! YES JAY-Z WAS TRYIN TO SIGN HIM-BUT REMEMBER HE KILLED IT BEFORE JAY WAS HOT-REMEMBER THE INFAMOUSE HOT 97 FREESTYLE????? NOW THAT HE DEAD PEOPLE GIVIN HIM LIGHT-DATS FINE CAUSE HE WAS GONNA GET HIS SHINE DEAD OR ALIVE REGARDLESS!! BUT NOW THAT HE GONE WHAT HARLEM DOIN'? -CHICKEN NOODLE SOUP...WIT A SODA AND SOME FRIES??? I TRUELY BELEIVE THAT IF JAE MILLZ, OR JR RYDER OR 40-SHOVEL FACE CAL DON'T BRING IT BACK OR EVEN CAM GO BACK TO HIS MIXTAPE SHIT THEN HARLEM IS TRUELY OVER!

WHAT YOU OFFERING/ PUT IT RIGHT IN THE OFFERING/ THEY TAKE IT ALL CASH CREDIT, SILVER DOWN TO PORCELLIN.

mase was raw back when he was in children of the corn. but honestly he is garbage now and an emabrassment to his old 24 hours to live self. also dipset killed him on "take em to church"

If big L was still alive he would be ridin with the dips. Imagine big l's flow over one of those great dipset beats. cam got alot of shit from big l and thats why he's lyrically one of the best out right now. you think it's nursery rhymes because your too stupid

BY THE WAY SOHH KING-IF BIG L WERE ALIVE THEN CAM, JIMMY, JUELZ, RELL, CAL AND ALL OF THEM WOULD BE FLAMBOYANT ENTERTAINMENT NIGGAZ NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND! BELEIVE ME!


-THE EMPORER HAS SPOKEN BITCH!

Anyone who knows me know i think Jay is mad tight...but on the 8...or was it 7 minute freestyle Big L made Jigga look like an ass when it came to competing flows!!

@ Big L

It was 7 and I co-sign but you know what I really notice is Jay trying to flow more on the second verse. Big L raised that bar baby! R.I.P Big L

@Nucca

ls there any song that Mase done that you can say was wack.

Man there are so many. Don't even need to explain which one's. Mase alway's was and alway's will be garbage as a artist. As far as his personal life I really don't care. I judge artist by thier talent not personal life.

BigUP2Bk
YOU CAN SAY HYPOCRACY, BUT I CAN SAY A NIGGA MADE A MISTAKE DURING SOME SERIOUS TIMES.MASE WAS AND PROBABLY IS STILL THE BEST LYRICIST FROM HARLEM NO HATE.THIS NIGGA HAD AN ORIGINAL FLOW THAT WAS SMOOTH AND NOT GANGSTA, IT WAS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR.AND HE BIRTHED LOON,FAB,EVEN 50 CENT WAS INFLUENCED BY MASE.
DUDE SIMPLY MADE THE WRONG DECISION, I JUST THINK HE SHOULD NOT HAVE COME BACK TALKIN THAT GANGSTA SHIT.AND IF YOU HATE MASE THEN YOU SHOULD HATE GAME TOO,THEY BOTH GOOD RAPPERS BUT ALL THEY WORK IS FABRICATED LIKE A SCI-FI MOVIE.BUT THEY GOOD TO LISTEN TO.
MASE IS A BEAST AND HE SPITS CLEVER SHIT.

Harlem would be somethin if big L was still here. It's kinda too bad that harlem has a bunch of faggots reppin from there like dipset.

The only chance for harlem is probably immortal tec. That hombre can spit! For real!!

Rick Ross - 183,000 Units to finish Numero Uno

DMX - Sales Dip of 63% To fall to numero Nueve(nine)

Cassy - 100,000 Units to Finish Numero Cuatro(four)

This has been your Billboard charts update brought to you by BigCav

Fuck Harlem,Big L is the real King of New York.R.I.P.

K-Rob:

It is always good to see you in the building…

And as always you points are strong….But I am still on some Fuck Mase type shit. I mean the religious shit I supported him on…I believed the nigga and actually admired his willingness to commit himself to a higher calling.

When came back and made that bubble gum Album with puff but was still talking about so-called “worldly tings” I supported him and told other niggas to shut the fuck up about him because I though overall his Joint was basically Bubble gum and niggas were just being assholes complaining.

Once he attempted to sign with G-Unit…I basically said fuck him. I said fuck him because I knew the religious rhetoric he was kicking was all bullshit. He saw 50 making all kinds of niggas platinum selling artists so he compromised and went with G-Unit.
Now, if he would have signed with the Unit and still was on the same vibe I could of accepted that but heard him on a couple of mix tapes and that was when I just said fuck him.

I can’t respect a nigga false reppin God. Game may have false repped a Gang but he didn’t false rep God….that’s the difference between the 2.

Now to me, Mase is a much more fucked up nigga in my eyes.

Game, I am convinced does a lot of shit to keep his name out there which is kind of smart. I think Game loves for niggas to talk about him whether its good or Bad. If I was a G-Unit nigga I would never mention his name. I think the best thing G-Unit could do is squashed the beef with Game because if they did that it narrow his lane.

Many niggas are going to buy Game’s joint because they hate 50 and not that they really love Game …but once again because they really hate 50 and they want him defeated and they don’t care by who…

Now before U “Game” niggas start bitching and crying…I do think that Game is nice. One Blood when the volume is loud is a banger…but at least 25 % of his sales will be from the fuck 50 crowd because they want to see them G-Unit niggas loose and loose big.

Anyway, let me get back to my original point…Fuck Mase…I talk a lot shit…but I don’t fuck around when it comes to God and I can’t support a nigga who is on that Vibe.

I think even 50 knows that Mase is full of shit. 50 has money coming out of his fuckin ears…he could of brokered a deal with Puff if he really wanted Mase but he probably found out how that nigga got chased out of Harlem and said Fuck Mase.

K-Rob…U R my dude but I stand by what I said and what Reckless said indirectly, which is, Fuck Mase! K-Rob, that nigga ain’t the kind of nigga 50 ran with in Queens…Mase is the kind of nigga that will get everyone wet up….if I haven’t said it before … I am going to say it now, Fuck Mase!

Big L sucks.All that NYC shit sucks.I'm on my down south shit.
We got Reggie Bush!!!!!!!!!

What up Suspects


Man Big L was da truth, he really did make Hov step up on dat second verse, damn shame nigga died so early.

Rap game is fucked man, Biggie, Pac, Pun, Big L, what da fuck? Theres only a select few left who still rap the right way, yall know what I mean, that actually make sens and say something.

Any moron who think Big L would roll with a crew that jumps from Flip to Game, Doggie doggie, No Homo, Ya dig ya dig, is mad fucking twisted.

Yall can honestly picture L dressed up like da Pepto Bismol spokesperson rhymin about Scooby Snacks and beefin about another nigga's footwear? Nah, cuz dats straight homo.


Just let the man rest in peace and enjoy his work, cuz its some real shit for sure.

Ya dig, Ya dig, lol.

Peace

And Mase is a bith, keep yo punk ass out of town, Fuck Mase

Peace 2 my man, Blaze:

Yeah Big L was that next kid...man I miss that dude!

Word up Kid

2 of the ILLEST MCs 2 come outta Harlem, period.
Big L
Immortal Technique

If L was still here, Dipset would'nt even be an afterthought. Cam and Mase would be signed 2 Big L's label, plus Mase need his ass beat 4 saying that he wrote Big L's rhymes.
Listen 2 The Big Picture and tell me if U think Mase wrote that shit

i'm from westside savannah georgia but i'm still not likin the fact them niggas killed big l cuz i just recently stumbled across this nigga music. i woulda liked to hear more from him.

About Mase, I don't do the christian thing but I also don't play with God. I don't dig phony niggas and I won't support their stuff. I have no problem with someone having a crisis of identity but I can't put up with a nigga flip flopping incessantly. All men go through the mortality phase where they can't decide for a short time what lane to pick. It seemed to me that Mase picked one, stayed there for a minute, changed up, went back then tried to get on. That's phony. I don't like 50 but I respect his hustle and his business sense. He already knows something about Mase that could damage his link to the street niggas that are copping his shit. Thing I always tell niggas that fuck with me on business or personal, be the same way outside in the streets that you are when we're hanging out at the crib. Don't get around a bunch of bitches and be the shit all of a sudden, then be riding with me on some other shit and be a fucking yes man. Be the shit all the time. That's why I don't do the christian thing. My wife is always at me to go to church but I always tell her, I can't just go just to be going. I believe in committing myself to anything I involve myself in. God to me is serious and requires committment. That's why I have no respect for Mase.

Intelligent conversation rules the NYC blog these days.

What up BigUP

Whats up Blaze & That Dude!

Whats up Blaze & That Dude!

Sorry about the language. I just can't stand phony niggas. I'm dealing with that right now with my circle of friends and fam. It's disappointing. I've been listening to track 12 on "The Big Bang". Busta is spitting some real talk on there. I can't cut it off because it tells me a lot about niggas being the same everywhere. Phony, dick riding punks!

Fuck Mase and don't excuse my language on that last statement.

BY THE WAY SOHH KING-IF BIG L WERE ALIVE THEN CAM, JIMMY, JUELZ, RELL, CAL AND ALL OF THEM WOULD BE FLAMBOYANT ENTERTAINMENT NIGGAZ NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND! BELEIVE ME.

True. cam will never be the rapper big L was but as his only surviving protege he carries on his legacy and some of L's style is still alive and well in cam as well as jr writer and 40 cal.

Odemic, What's Good, Family

Big Up 2 That dude and Anonymous

Also, I am cosigning the kid, Earnest on his Fuck Mase, comment. I really I don't like that Kid, either.

What's up Big

The Bush blog went to hell last night. I left the field early to get back to it and niggas was shouting out to each other. I want to hear some Big L shit now. I've only read his lyrics and they were tight.

"All men go through the mortality phase where they can't decide which lane to pick"
posted by ernest frazier at August 16, 2006 12:15 PM

That is true, however, U gotta know within self if that particular lane is the lane 4 U, prime example, 10 years ago, after Pac died, I was in a car accident, and I was laid up 4 a few days, and family and friends came 2 cee me and most of them gave "spiritual" words of encouragement, which left me questioning the existence of a God that I could not cee, and why I should praise a dead prophet (Jesus)anyway, long story short, I decided 2 become a 5 Percenter, and my life has changed 4 the better.
Basically, it's all about that individual and their drive 2 walk whatever path they choose, and 2 stick 2 that path, Mase tried, but the root of all evil beckoned him 2 backslide

Peace 2 ODEMIC, BigUP2BK, & Blaze McHerbs

@ Ernest:

Yeah we did that Bush Blog real Big...in fact I left you and Karess a message on that joint about 15 minutes ago saying lets jump start that shit again.


This Big L joint is weak today...no diss intended I just call it like I see it..
Ya heard is weak 2.

I really like the people on the soulful Blog and my man Soulman is cool but I can't get into all that R & B bugglegum shit. I usually will pop in there when they are just generally talkin and bullshittin around...but talkin about Beyonce for 8 hours...that shit is not going to work for me...no diss to them cusz I got madd love for the soulful crew and I will probably hang out with them before the day is out...

Today is just a slow day at SOHH

I do believe in God but I don't follow the christian edicts. I grew up in church. As I got older I went back to my same church and it was a whole different ball game. Every minister has a different interpretation of the Bible. After a little research into it, I've found that even the Bible may not be the accurate account of "God's Word". It was written by men, translated repeatedly and a lot of material written for it was rejected in the yr 1000 AD. Completely off subject but I'm just responding to the last post. Mase's problem is, he publicly disrespected the hood he started out repping. He flip flopped publicly and tried to hide behind "the devil made me do it". A lot of people at church use that shit. That's another reason why I don't go. My wife always says, "you have to go for yourself not anyone else". I just can't sit around phony people and Mase falls in that category: Convenient Christian!

@Bk

I picked up your message but I can't get into that again. I have to get on my paperchase today or I'm going to be on this blog a lot more. My ass is going to be let go. I'm trying to steer this one into another direction but the only ones feeling my vibe are u, odemic and that dude. I feel like I'm leaving too many posts as a matter of fact. I got about 15 min's them I'm out.

Ernest:

That what fucks me up about Mase is that he uses his religous faith (if you can say faith in his case) like a CD. When he wants to he pops in and when he tires of it he pops it out...

He is at the highest level of Fraud to me.

The real question is: Where would HIP HOP be if BIG L were still here? Its no coincidence that hip hip died around the same time L died...

Ernest:

I hear U...it was an unrealistic request and more of a fuck around comment anyway...I am bout ready to write this day off 2...if shit starts popping or someone ask me a question I will pop back in.

That what fucks me up about Mase is that he uses his religous faith (if you can say faith in his case) like a CD. When he wants to he pops in and when he tires of it he pops it out...

Posted by: BigUP2Bk at August 16, 2006 12:47 PM

great analogy, co-sign completely

gotta roll, I'll get back and hope tomorrow sparks more intelligent confab.

Peace to all from the Chi

It's everyday with this Dipset shit.

'Cam be spitting that whooptie whoop'....

alright, we get it.

And when did love in the streets stop being more important than commercial success?

As usual, I drop a 'thinkbomb' and run!

Peace the fuck out.

First off, Big L was tight, he was on the brink right before he died, and Jay-Z was about to sign him to Roc-A-Fella too. And if anyone doesn't think his flow was crazy and he would have blown up, i always tell everyone just listen to "Ebonics". That one song should tell you right there how sick his flow was and how creative he was. And then i tell them if they are not convinced to listen to some of his freestyles.."ask Beavis, I get nothin, but Head"...that shit is crazy.....

Second...I never liked Mase, but he was a huge influence in Harlem. At the same time, the guy is a walking contradiction and a straight up fake. I respected him for doing what he did and finding GOD, can't hate on him for that. And if he had come back to rap, and had something positive to say, I wouldn't hate that either. But he came back with nothing positive to say, just came back for the money, and now he wanted to be with 50. He is a fake dude, for real....like a few years after he went to be a pastor, he wrote that book and was on Rap City, and Tigger asked him, "so what do you think of when you see yourself in those old videos", and Mase said, "I don't even know who that is anymore", and like a year or two later, he comes back for you know what...Money.....FAKE ASS!

Today is just a slow day at SOHH

Posted by: BigUP2Bk at August 16, 2006 12:39 PM


I'm Co-Signing!

But it ain't that the blog is weak its just that its not as hard as it was yesterday.

Shouts the Usuals:
BigUP2BK, IJUSTKEEPHUSTLIN', ODEMIC, BlazeMcHerbs, Karess, Dig, Rocky and everybody else up top.


PEACE!
BROOKLYN STAND UP!

The new 2007 DIPSHITS LINEUP

1. Stan'ron
2. Jenny Jones
3. Juelz "cant stand ya" santana
4. JR> Bricker (for the album selling brick status)

i put my foot up yo ass no homo AYE

When "Big L" used to be up in the radio studio with "Bobbito" and "Stretch Armstrong" on their radio show, he would kill the motherf&&king airwaves with all his freestyles!.
When "B.I.G" was being christened the King Of New York the real King was really in Harlem!.
Mark my f&&king words The Bronx and Harlem are gonna move and rock the world again!!!!!!!..........
Peace to the Mighty Zulu Nation - The 5 percent - and La Familia.

man I know this blog has bunch of gayme dick riders but did ya niggaz see that new lil scrappy video??? oh shit man he had like everybody in it!! and that game over shit was sweet!!! ya niggaz say what ya wanna say but game is done big time!!! ya gona dick ride him becouse ya hate 50 so it looks like he has fans but to the industry his nothing....banks coming with an album hot rod coming with an album lil scrappy coming with an album buck coming with an album and ya say g-unit done??? so where is all the balck wall street niggaz at???? nigga be serious them niggaz is broke with no talent!!! and when 50 drops ya gonna see whassup.

JESUS-CHRIST is not a dead prophet,whoever said that,its pure blasphemy. JESUS is the son of GOD.whether u believe in him or not,doesnt make any difference with him.he does not depend on any other person or power or support or ritual.he already sacrificed his own blood to save the world.he is no longer dead in the grave,death has no power over him.he is risen and alive in heaven.he is coming again.he is GOD by his own power and authority.

i do have to say that there are two sick mc,s represent harlem.40 cal and loaded lux.but 40 cal is reppin the dips and lux is pretty much under ground.on some real shit lux is nice google loaded lux.
i remember the night big l was killed.dj clue announced it on the radio clue was pissed at the situation.big l was about to sign with rocafella.big l = papoose.just speaking the fact."im fucking with more keys then a janitor."big l has crazy quotables.plus son repped with digging in the crate.rest in peace brother.the violent way you went out was sensless.peace to harlem.

forget what i just said. I am a wetback cocksucker!!!!!!!!

Didn't Big L get shot in the face at point blank range? SOmebody wasn't feeling him,,,, He's got hella witty punchlines, but only a top notch battle rapper at best. His style is father to cassidy and just about everybody else who raps that funny slick sh*t, but L ain't really have jewels( not jewelry) for N8ggas. ANd no disrespect but we gotta start leaving some sh*t in the past if you been dead longer than 5 seasons it's a wrap, that's part of the beauty of life, celebrate the living man, no disrespect to all fallen soldiers but damn keep it moving...

TRE J, YOU'RE A DUMB FUCK. HARLEM AINT A BOROUGH.

Who ever said Jay-Z won't go at Mase. Check out Ride or Die on Hard Knock Life album. That was for Mase. And Mase never responded.

damn my stan called me a wetback.what will you think of next stanley?

Had a lot of clientele today, shits crazy some days.


Just wanted to shout out all the real niggs, Xclusive, BK, Odemic, That Dude, BX, Black, Hustlin, n everyone else up top


I'm out


Oh, and Reckless, keep it up homie, I'm starting to think a good blog topic a day will keep most Stans away, like homie said before, its intelligent convos these days at SOHH NYC

Without revealing to much near Liberty and Linwood.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ OH WORD YOU FROM THE HOOD THEN IS 302 TYPE SHIT

Fuck you and youre the Michael Jordan of hating ass niggas.

Fuck you and youre the Michael Jordan of hating ass niggas.

Damn Ma$e,
Did I strike a nerve within by calling Jesus a dead prophet?
I'm just calling it how I cee it, no disrespect 2 you or anyone else's beliefs, but homie was betrayed by his own people, then murdered by the Romans.

In 325 A.D. Emporer Constantine convened the Nicean Creed at the council of Nicea, and declared that Jesus was born December 25.

Peace 2 the Usual Suspects, I'm out!

If big l were still around alot of things would be different. Big L owns the freestyle, thats a fact, hed already have a few classics under his belt and been giving harlem a style to run with.
Big L
Big Pun
B.I.G.
rip

Man New York period has fallen off. Now Jay-Z gonna come outta retirement to try an salvage what he can by droppin yet another classic album to try and get some shine back on NY. Even DMX came back to try and save NY but it seems too late for them. New York rappers cant get any mainstream play an cant move units. With the exception of 50 cent and the Unit, Jay-Z, lol Ne-Yo, Busta made a lil plash on the charts, No one from NY is puttin up numbers. I am not saying dudes from NY cant rap, they just sound the same and imatate rappers like Big, Pac, Jay-Z, Krs one, etc... but without the lyrical faness or the swagger those guys had when they rapped.

The South is on top, for another year!
2004 They made there big entry, 2005, they dominated air play, 2006 they killing soundscan. No One from NY has been able to put up numbers like the SOUTH has Been doing.

Busta 209k?
Mobb deep- 104k?
Cam'ron- 114k?
DMX- 126k?
Those were the highest debuting NY rappers.

T.I- 522k?
Pimp C- 87k? He was in jail come on, give em props.
Young Joc- 148k?
Rick Ross- 187k?

Looks to me like the South took this year also.

STEP YOUR RAP GAME UP NEW YORK, CHANGE YOUR FLOW, STOP BITING BIG AND MAYBE YA'LL WILL GO GOLD.

SOUTHSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I aint from NY so i aint finna sit here and comment on shit i dont know bout..but i do know Big L was sick. My homie from up North put me on the Ebonics. Yea its a shame dude had to die...aint Jae Millz from Harlem? Just a question. Dude been nice to me ever since that No No No.

The South is on top, for another year!
2004 They made there big entry, 2005, they dominated air play, 2006 they killing soundscan. No One from NY has been able to put up numbers like the SOUTH has Been doing.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Everybody Making Comments About New York What About The West Where THEY AT?

NYC, and California have not fallen off, they are just in a renaissance period.
There is a changing of the guard taking place in both these regions as per the torch is being handed down to a new generation.
Once this new generation is groomed properly, they will thoroughly dominate throughout the cultural and economic landscape of the united snakes of amerikka.
Cali is definitely still active in this game - don't sleep!....
Peace to The Mighty Zulu Nation - The 5 Percent Nation - and La Familia.

Big L was at the tip of stardom, and forget harlem, he was probraly the nicest MC to come in the game. That's like if Jay got shot right when he made Reasonable Doubt, he wouldnt get a chance to outshine everyone. But Big L would of outshined anyone in the game, even Big got One More Chance from Big L. Not only that, but right before he died he was going to be the first artist on Rocafella, seeing how Jay basically got his whole style from L, flow wise, wit wise, lyricaly and charismaticly, things would have been alot different today. Not only for Harlem, but the world.

Everybody Making Comments About New York What About The West Where THEY AT?

why the fuck are you worried about us for stay in yo lane...

as for bigup2bk-k-rob-jay-money

obie trice is hot fuck hot its lava.

that new y.buck mixtape got like 7-8
of the hardest original yet still lyrical material ive heard to date.

obie has step his lyrical game up.
he has that jay-z swagger but not that annoying dick rider kind more like clipes,j-buddens

and em steped his production game up.

all yall DIck riders callign for jayz outta retirement dude gonna look like MJ when he came back with the wizards....fuckin outdated and old
jay said himself damn Prez, listen too you own damn advice. maybe instead of working on your own damn album you could help some of your RAP artists go better than COPPER in soundscan sales,

I THINK IT"s PRETTY OBVIOUS NOW to all you DAME DASH HATERS that DAME was the BUSINESS MIND that made Roc/Rocawear work ever since DAME cashed out where the fuck is rocawear, where the fuck is the roc, other than Kanye who i dont count cuz he aint "the roc" dude waz a fucking backpack rapper for years before DAME decided to sign him now Kanye got an ego bigger than comedian MO'nique's Ass.

and i end by saying, AYE! DIPSHITS fo shizzle my nizzle.

word: and Cantstandya Santana pull Camron cock out your ass and be a grown man and stop dickriding that shit went outta style in middle school.
geez, you did better than "the boss" in sales.

harlem would be better off with big l? isnt that a little obvious?? fuckin of course it would be..hip hop would be better off with big l..and big pun..that's when the real emcees died with the passing of these 2...

Everybody Making Comments About New York What About The West Where THEY AT?

a my nigga that shit aint never been cool out here L.O.L

middle school was hected in cali that is when these tiny locs start to get there bang on...

Everybody Making Comments About New York What About The West Where THEY AT?

obie trice is hot fuck hot its lava.

obie has step his lyrical game up.
he has that jay-z swagger but not that annoying dick rider kind more like clipes,j-buddens

and em steped his production game up.

Posted by: k.ola at August 16, 2006 05:23 PM

^I'm cosignin'...Obie's new album is straight fiyah!! i can't put it down

Big L n Cam'ron were part of the same group, Children Of Corn, along wit Mase n Bloodshed, n sometimes McGruff, every1 hates on Cam for 2 reasons, 1 he wore pink, 2 hi verse from Crunk music, get over it, its tired, really, up in the midwest, alotta niggas wore pink, it was fly for awhile, n niggas from the south have no issue wit em, n all the rappers from the Eastcoast dont really have problems wit em, they give them the respect thats due, so wuts all the hate? n about the pink thing, wuteva came do is wut harlem is doin', so go to harlem n say he sucks n ull see the reaction, if yall gon hate, give more than 2 fuckin old ass reasons, n Cam n Big L were in the same group, they got big together, they went through shit together, so of course they gon' rub off on eachother, n as far as Ma$e goes, hes a human being just like the rest of us, hes goin through some shit, his relationship wit God is really non of our damn buisness when u think about it, but hes famous, so we're gonna kno, niggas really gotta get over shit, RIP Big L, he was nice, ima young du', so i dont kno too much about him, but he was nice, Put It On is real slick, duces

Not for nothing but this nigga be putting up some real corny fucking blogs at times!

I think harlem has the biggest buzz its had in years and this is a BROOKLYN nigga saying this. First off everyone is either hating or loving dipset in these blogs everyday doesnt that tell u something. If you are speaking about them its for a reason! Now if niggas wasnt speaking of them then thats a different story then you could say harlem fell off. Big.l was that dude at the time, and if he was still alive it would have been him signed to rocafella not camron. He definitely would of been looked at as harlems king..

But cam and the dips is doing a pretty good job of keeping harlem on the map. So really look for a better blog to post up tomorrow cause i think your falling off...

CAM DUMBED HIS SHIT DOWN AFTER MASE BLEW UP!!! CAM WAS Biggie's favorite rapper he even helped him get a deal!! Why niggas that just started listening to rap always be the first to diss somebody? CAM IS A BEAST!! Dont let the pink range fool ya go download some of his old children of the corn shit i bet you cant tell mase from cam or L from cam all them niggas was spittin!

I'm glad someone mentioned McGruff cause he was aight. He got fucked up with Universal. They was so happy Lost Boys took off they forgot about everybody else. Even when McGruff blew Monifah up, they shit on him. ALso, Black Rob was holding down Harlem for awhile

Them dip set niggas anit goin no where hate it or love it cuz if they would of left the game they would of left it a long time ago I mean how many times them niggas got jumped or got shot at or been in jail. I mean they still gettin they hustle so what do that mean the only way them niggas is leavin the rap game is when there souls is leavin there bodies intel then get used to it.

daredevil : The Children of the Corn shit was tight and Killa was spittin serious back then. But I disagree breh, Cam rarely spits like that these days I think he's forgotten how. If he's dumbed his shit down on purpose then he's sacrificing his artistic integrity for the $ which to me ain't hip-hop.

And yeah Black Rob was holdi ndown Harlem, Whoa is a fuckin anthem, and the Black Rob Reprt did'nt get anyway near enough props that shit was tight.

YE IT'S TRUE, THAT REAL HIP HOP IS DEAD, AND CATS DOWN SOUTH HERE ABOUT IT BUT THE DON'T THINK THEY"RE PURSUING IT. I JUST DON'T GET THAT SHIT THAT ALL THE REAL RAPPERS HAVE LEFT, OR GONE ON SMALL LEAVE. THE LATEST REALEST HIP HOP SONG THAT I HEARD WAS "NEW YORK, NEW YORK" BY JA RULE, FAT JOE, AND JADAKISS(AND ALSO HIS HIT "WHY"). FROM HARLEM AND EVERYWHERE UP EAST NEEDS TO BRINNG HIP HOP BACK. LIKE DMX SAID WHEN PEOPLE NO LONGER SPEAK FROM THE HEART, MIND, AND SOUL; THEN BULLSHIT REVEALS.
LYRICALLY SPEAKING, WATER.

aye if you really think about it if big L was still around there is no dipset or terror squad or any of those people cause they'd all be working for big l.. maybe even mase would still be in harlem. dipset may only be hot in the streets cause they lack promos and tv shit and all that, but they have potential with hell rell, JR and 40 cal. people say how Cam is not as good as he used to be, which is true but he's still doin his thing. big l was the shit and he would be up there with other new york people and a completely different movement would be comin out of harlem.

big l was sick on the mic that cat had pneumonia but im not going to say mase was wack (harlem world was tight) that cd is slept on like a mofo although i think he wack now and a hypocrite the most 2 faced mofo in hip hop and to cat who said kanye got an ego after dame signed him kanye ALWAYS HAD AN EGO ASK SHAWNA & RYMEFEST AND SHAWNAS BROTHER ICE DRE and how kanye not roc? dame signed him and he was producing jay-z and beanie siegel BEFORE THE JAY-Z DAME SPLIT so ioono how you figure he aint roc i guess because yo man dame pissed @ ye plus ye aint from ny i get it

harlem aint no trash nigga harlem got de biggest movement yet in my opinion thats strictly for de streets. harlem got 40 cal, hell rell, camron, juelz, duke da god, jim jones, JAE MILLZ, murda mook, purple city, jr writer, mase
like wat de fuck if u real hood nigga u wuld feel de movement and how harlem aint silent yall sum dums

>>aye if you really think about it if big L was still around there is no dipset or terror squad or any of those people cause they'd all be working for big l

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You do know Terror Squad was started before Big L died right?

Didnt you guys read my post?

Rick Ross - 183,000 Units to finish Numero Uno

DMX - Sales Dip of 63% To fall to numero Nueve(nine)

Cassy - 100,000 Units to Finish Numero Cuatro(four)

Does this not tell you fellas anything about the game that is music today? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, Big L or not it would be the same shit as it was 10, 20 years ago

"I'm starting to think a good blog topic a day will keep most Stans away..."

Posted by: BlazeMcHerbs at August 16, 2006 03:38 PM

Took the words right out of my mouth.

MA$E to this day still hold sdown as the best rapper that came out of harlem. The man is sik.....i GUARANTEE every rapper would think twice b4 the battle MURDA!!!! HE is gonna make it big AGAIn wit g-unit, just wait and see!! GGG-unit!!!!!

FIRST OF ALL...BIG L WAS HARLEM'S FINEST. PERIOD. FUCK CAM! JUELZ SOLD WAY MORE THAN HIS MENTOR. JAY WAS BIGGIE'S FAVORITE RAPPER, NOT CAM. SURE HE HELPED CAM WHEN SPITTIN FIRE. THAT'S WHY LANCE SIGNED HIM AND BALTIMORE. FUCK MASE. JAY DID BRING IT TO M.BETHA, AND NEVER GOT BACK AT HIM. STOP IT MY YOUTH. BIG L IS ALWAYS HARLEM'S FINEST. PERIOD.

BIG L ALL DAY
RIP

BEST RAPPER COMMING OUT OF HARLEM IS

IMMORTAL TECH !!!!! HELL RELL IS FROM THE BRONX !!!!! AND MURDA MOOK IS A FUCKING FAKE !! NIGGA WENT TO PREP SCHOOL !!!

IMMORTAL TECH THE NEXT BEST THINK AFTER L PASSED..RIP MAH DUDE !!

BKLYN ALL DAY !!!

murda mook is from massachusetts and moved to harlem and reps harlem..but he aint from harlem

Ok RIP Big L....I aint even gon talk bout this article

But all i have 2 say to this website.........Is hop of Jay Z Dick and stop hatin on the dips(They jus other dudes gettin money and half of yal on this site is like not even gettin paper like they r so unless yall are,yea ight go ahead say sumthin but if u kno yo ass broke then Stfu)But Fuck Dam niggas yall slobbin on Hov shit seirously....This article was bout Big L and Harlem and im hearin this Bullshit "Jay Z this Jay Z that" .Like Hov said it himself niggas lol hop off his dick...The only reason y Dipset had sum1 out sell Cam is cause they actually have talent over there...N like no 1 really knows Cam word play or nothin dont even give dude a chance 2 buy his album..But stil i admit Juelz should not b outselling Cam..But the its like who the fuck on rocafela or or fucking wateva did Jay Z eva have 2 compete with him in record sales accept 4 Kanye??? Who???Memphis Who ??? FUCK Outta here..State Who???? Young Gunz Who??? The only artist i only hav respect that Jay Z got is Beanie Sigel and Jay Z himself..But i dont ride on any rappers dick like this whole website does.

PS since yall want 2 bring up other artist in these comment boxes..Please Someone kill this *shoulder lean/lean wit it rock wit it Bullshit music*

Real hip hop is back!

I.W. Presents Dorchester Univercity!
Only available @ UnderGroundhiphop.com

Click on the link to listen to the album!

SO WHAT murder mook is educated does that make the nigga fake? Yall niggas a trip!!!! So you will look up to a stupid NIGGA before you look up to a nigga with a diploma!!!

aye yo this dude above me is right why the fuck if a dude got a education he aint real? i'd rather have a education and keep doin my thing with the streets and shit hustlin and rappin and that makes somone better if they got a education on top of all that.

I don't understand some of ya'll niggas that think ya'll could sum up one location because that's where a rapper reps. Harlem ain't soft because Cam'ron or whomever you don't like reps it. Each, boro, city, and state has cornball niggas out there spitting senseless shit. Some of ya'll that have never been to the city or have never been through other parts of the city you don't rep, get out the house, go to that place and pop that shit, and let me know what happens then.

yea this dude above me is right, for real just cause yall dont like somone that makes their area not hard. yall need to go to the actual place and see it before u say shit about it i live in oakland in the bay where we keep it hyphy yall might think we soft or sumthin but we not. ya smell me..

I liked big L's music, but plain and simple it had very little redeeming value, i mean honestly it was all about guns violence and girls for the most part. Fair enough thats how he lived, but he didnt have the vision of the golden age masters of hiphop. He died because of the way he lived, same as 2pac.. karma in action.
peace

Yo whoever thinks Jay got murdered on that 7 min "freestyle" back in 95 should reconsider. Everytime you hear a big L "freestyle" it's some shit he "freestyled" before. Strait off. Jay was all the way off the top on that one clearly. Respect is definately gonna always be due to L but don't compare his written shit to Jays authentic freestyles.

I get mad disappointed when I see misconceptions like this. And it's played out when these mp3 makin mfers put it down as "freestlye" when it aint hardly no real improv shit out there. On that one you just hear Jay thinking on whats next. For me, he won that one. L's lyrics CRAZY, you might say they were way better, but theres a reason=written.

YAll gullable ass non rappin ass doods can't tell the difference I guess. Ha!

RIP BIG L

Harlem dry?

Yo SoHHoe Reckless the only thing that is dry is your mom's pre-historic used
pussy ya dig! Big L may he rest in peace without a dick head using his name in vein. He opened the door for a
lot of niggaz i Harlem and that torch was passed to Cam'ron.Harlem wouldn't be hot and it would have eventually been taken off the map if it wasn't for Killa Cam and his disciples. Cam has signed a lot of niggaz from Harlem.

Big L R.I.P hes one of the greatest ever. I dnt no how u can mug this bloke off hes up there jus as biggie and pac are. to me the gratest there ever was
Harlems finest

Ricky Hodges s wales united kingdom

OK IM GONA SETTLE THIS FOR ALL OF YOU... BIG L WAS THE GREATEST RAPPER TO HAVE EVER WALKED ON THE FAC OF TH EARTH NO ON CAN FUCK WITH HIS LYRICS HE WOULD HAVE MURDERED ANY OTHER MC HWO STEP[PED TO HIM I DONT CARE WHO IT WAS 99.9% OF BIG L;S SHIT YOU WILL NEVER HEAR ANYONE SPIUT IT LIKE THAT JUST CUZ HE DIDNT RAP ABOUT BITCHES SHAKIN THEIR ASSES AND GETTIN NAKID DONT MEAN SHIT LITEN TO HIS LYRICS REALLY LISTEN TO THEM AND ANYONE OUT NOW JAY-Z NAS GAME EMINEM DRE CAM MASE NONE OF THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS COULDNT HAVE FUCKED WITH L IN THEIR PRIME AND ON HIS WORST DAY YOU CANT FUCK WITH L THE BIG PICTURE IS BETTER THAN ANY ALBUM TO HAVE BEEN PUT OUT AND PROLLY EVER CUZ RAP IS GARBAGE HE WAS THE LAST HOPE AFTER BIGGIE AND PAC DIED AND HE GOT SHOT DOWN AND AFTER THAT RAP WENT SOUTH RIP TO MY MAN BIG L YOU WERE THE GREATEST EVER

ok, lets get this straight, Big L is the best rapper that ever lived period, and omg most u people who posted comments, are stupid as fuck, yea stupid as fuck, specially the fags saying that big l is considered good just cause he died, bullshit, big l's lyrics are the most unique versitile hardcore ever!!!, and fuck that guy talking bout if mase wasnt here there would be no harlem, wat type of faggot is u homeboy, Big L put harlem on the map bitch, and to mase, he is a good good rapper, but L was the one who took him from the streets and let him be a memeber for children of the corn, wich was Big L's group which included mase cam bloodshed(cams cousin, R.I.P.) digga, Mc gruff, and himself. who ever doesnt like Big L is either they dont know real hip hop, they dont understan his lyrics, or they're just gay, and just listen to wat their classmates listen too. and Harlem is dead, it needs to be brought back, but its gonna be pretty impossible wit the group full of pretty boys, Dipset, holy shit their garbage straight up. fuckin soft fags, who cant rap, jim jones looks so fuckin wasted from smoking so much weed, which is why he cant rap, and cam which was good, in children of the corn, sucks dick now, juelz i admit is pretty sick, but they need to subjects to rap about, so all those people how dont like or misunderstand harlems finest, no hip hop's finest FUCK YALL!!!!

PZ

Big L and Immortal are Harlem's only fate, Dipset is trash, no one like thems here. They fake Bloods, they never belonged to any set I heard of and Cam was running with no gang when he was with Big L and Ma$e. The article is true, Mase's days are long gone, and since signing with G Unit, theres no chance he'll return.

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ionolsen40 I like your site

ionolsen42 Hello Jane, great site!

dipset is weak as hell now. Cam was cool til Bloodshed and L died, now he changed his flow

yo checkk it
jim jones swears he hard niggas wack ballin...GOT JUMPED IN HARLEM ND SAYIN MA$E STALLIN.PUSSY HOPE U SEE DIS..PUNNK ASS BITCH THINKIN U COOL BEING RICH..U DUN COME FROM DA HOOD.GO BACK WER U SHUD...DIPSET NIGGA..JGGA'LL KILL YA...THINKIN U HARD WITH UR BIRD ASS SHIT... TRYNA MAKE A RHYME OUT BUT U SCARED TA SPIT..NIGGA FOR DA RECORD U CUD SUKK MA DICK..TIHNKIN U HARD JUST CUS U BUST A CLIP

Big L Is The illest. I Know that And Im From hictown Pittsburgh

I read some of the stuff. I'm thinking about finishing all of it, but damn it's a lot. I aint from Harlem or Brooklyn I aint even from NY, I'm from the gay ass south. Where you got rappers not MC's spittin' rhymes with they mouth's full of shit. It's sad.

I started listenin' to old stuff because I was tired of the same South Shit, and I stumbled upon Big L. I didn't mind it at first, I didn't see what was so great but then i started listenin' to it more and listened to his rhymes and I was like....Damn, I haven't heard shit like this ever. Now he's my favorite.

I don't know all the history about the other rappers like Mase, Jigga, or L back in the day cause I was only 4 and 5. But from Mase's stuff from L's album he don't sound too bad. And other stuff like Dipset, I don't listen to them cause like I said it's mostly old stuff for me. As far as Big L being on Dipset now?

IDK, you can't really say that he would or wouldn't because he's dead. But from all the people that bit a little of L's style there probably would have been some upcomers, but no one knows that for sure.

But, I do know that if he had his own crew then his crew went on to Dipset and he didn't have a crew no more, he probably would've gone to dipset too, but like I said you can't be too sure. So that's my two cents. I hope there will another Harlem MC like l becuase it sure wont be anybody from the south.

yo this is how i feel on Harlem hip hop a lil verse i put 2getha


Harlem was hard
dispset shud be gone
Cam used da mic for a wrong reason
so wat if Mase left stop teasin

jimjones with da shyt capo
niggas like a gay fake hoe
he aint no real hard nigga
hes just a pussy with a clippa nd a fake figga

another verse on how harlem fell id be honored
L's ill wehn hes dead but why wasnt he sponsored...
when he was alive..he knew how to rock da mic he had dat jive

jim jones udunno how fuckin fake u are
swearin u hard
why in all ur pics u look soft
mcgurff killa murda and L
mos resprect dunno why L was kill

one lst verse hookin up on big l
wehn he lived his albums barley sell
now tha hes dead
his label gets all HIS bread

if u wanna come get me wat da fuck u lookin at
why u already strippin out dat gat
it aint liek dat we dont use smack
killa cam to killa tick tack

ONE of a kind u wont find in white labels pcikin up male dimes

WORDD UPP ONE LOVE TO MA GURL ND NAS NAHMEAN???

peace kids keep it real no dipshyt no gay r nd b shyt brignin hip hop back to da old schol track
nahmean hips hops dead...one

Harlem was hard
dispset shud be gone
Cam used da mic for a wrong reason
so wat if Mase left stop teasin

jimjones with da shyt capo
niggas like a gay fake hoe
he aint no real hard nigga
hes just a pussy with a clippa nd a fake figga

another verse on how harlem fell id be honored
L's ill wehn hes dead but why wasnt he sponsored...
when he was alive..he knew how to rock da mic he had dat jive

jim jones udunno how fuckin fake u are
swearin u hard
why in all ur pics u look soft
mcgurff killa murda and L
mos resprect dunno why L was kill

one lst verse hookin up on big l
wehn he lived his albums barley sell
now tha hes dead
his label gets all HIS bread

if u wanna come get me wat da fuck u lookin at
why u already strippin out dat gat
it aint liek dat we dont use smack
killa cam to killa tick tack

ONE of a kind u wont find in white labels pcikin up male dimes

WORDD UPP ONE LOVE TO MA GURL ND NAS NAHMEAN???

peace kids keep it real no dipshyt no gay r nd b shyt brignin hip hop back to da old schol track
nahmean hips hops dead...one

big L was the greatest rapper to ever live, plain & simple. anyone who doesnt agree can suck a dick cuz u dont kno shit about rap. Camron used to be ill with COC n shit until L & Bloodshed got merked then he fell off n started singin nursery rhymes n shit. mase was nice until he turned into a pussy, now he just straight up sucks. and all u faggits talkin about how jay-z is sick, go fuckin jump in a river wit handcuffs on, that motherfucker is horrible, he flows like hes got fuckin parkinsons, n the best shit to ever come outta his mouth was on a big L track (da graveyard). So thats it, fuck haters, RIP Lamont, pz

by the way, this fuckin retard above me tryna rap, YOU SUCK, id rather listen to celine dion or some shit, n thats from the heart, go fuckin kill yourself

Big L was and still is one of the most talented mc's of all time.Even when he died he didn't get the same acclaim as
Biggie or Tupac and believe me, he's more
skilled than either of them.Pac just got noticed cause of his social shit and thug life and got shot up thing,
but if you look lyricwise, he wasn't
that great.Same goes for big cept instead of social he had catchy tunes.
Big L:Underated.
Big and Pac:Overated.
Why? Put it like this.
Nas, another skilled lyricist would
fucking murk these cats but does he get
the ''legend'' title they do? I don't even know why these rappers look up to them so much.Like the whole ''Big is the king of new york'' shit. It's one thing to have respect for a fallen homie
but it's another to endleslly lick his fucking shoes and overate him the fuck up.

ps, whoever said the south was on top and new york has fallen off can fucking
go ride Young Jeezy's dick. The south is only on top cause all the suburban white kids buy their crap.The south is fucking killing hip hop with their weak ass rappers and crunk bullshit.Only a few rappers from the south are good
(trick daddy,scarface and the rest)
go listen to your r&b and fuck off.

yah now what pisses me off nuccas BIG L was about to sing with jayz and rockaflella but taht afgget bitch jay-z neva gave a shout out to his nigga L he agev one biggie and tupac but why not L fucked up ey taht nigga is tsraight up trippen

YAH NIGGAS TRIPPIN IF U BITCHES DOTN THINK BIG L IS THE BEST RAPPPER THAT EVR LIVED U BITCHES GOTZ TO GET OFF JAY-Z FUCKIN DICK TAHT NIKKA WAS ABOIUT TO SIGN BIG L BUT THEN HE GOT SHOT UP ON DA BLOCK AND THEN JAYZ THAT FAKE ASS NIGGA DONT EVEN GIVE HIMA S HOUT OUT NUTTIN TAHT FAKE ASS NIGGA HARELM AINT NUTTIN IF IT WASNT FO BIG L IGHT I ADMIT CAM WAS IGHT MASE WAS AIGHT TIL HE WA SA STAIGH T UP PUSSY AND THEN YALL FAGGIT ASS FAKE NIGGAS TAHT ARE ON JAYZ DICK THINK HGE IS THE EBST AND WAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH ALL THEI S SOUTH RAP SHIT IT FUCKIN SUCKS DICK LIEK THE NIGGA IN THE MIDDLES MOM DOES NE NIGGA CAN LET ME SO YO SHOULDA LEAN HARLEM IS WHERE THE REAL HARCORE NIGGAZ IZ AT IF TI WASNT FOR Ls BROTHER HE STYL BE AHLIVE

RIP L

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