Posted on April 5, 2006 3:27 AM
For the last year or so there's been an awful lot of back and forth between die hard New York/East Coast rap fans and the Down south hip hop faithful. Recently, I've been spending alot of time going back and forth with people on blogs and message boards trying to hold New York down while convincing the south that when we criticize any of their music, it's not because we're mad or "hating." I'd like to use today's post to clear up some common misconceptions people outside of New York have about us.
Of course, I don't speak for all New York hip hop fans, and believe me I know a couple of fools who would disagree with all of my points enthusiastically. But you can't judge a whole city/region on the opinion of a few, the same way you don't want us to judge all of your music on the trash of a few.
Let me also add that you can't expect us to automatically like everything from every other region and vice versa. It's a cultural thing in that when I come out of my house, I don't hop in a candy painted whip on 22's and roll out to the trap, so I don't necessarily want to hear that in my music everyday (Not saying that's what ya'll do everyday, but you know what I mean). You might not want to hear about my train ride uptown to see Papi either, so even though the struggle may be the same, sometimes the theme music will vary.
Dipset Forever Ya dig...G-unot For ever. I hate them alot...The best in the south are Luda, Scarface and Jeezy
what is a Laffy Taffy? I wanna get one
"We don't all worship G-Unit and Dipset
Some of us can't stand either crew to be honest. They are not by any means who we consider to be our best examples of skill or who we would choose to represent us in the Rap Superbowl "
YALL NEED TO LET DIPSET REPRESENT AT THE RAP SUPERBOWL. IT MIGHT PUT YOU FOOLS BACK ON TOP
SOHH NYC yo cocksucking ass aint never visited papi. You be "Popping" dicks up your asscrack
If they paid u 25 cents,
((whisper:I dare say 50 cents that causes 2 much drama))
on the amount of posts you will get for this commentary you would be able to pay your mortgage and car note and still get change back to go shopping...
hold on 2 your seat belts...
this blog is about 2 take an interestingly but PREDICTABLE ride...
Yall act like dipset is only big in N.Y. Them fools are killing the midwest. We have embraced them more than you New York niggas.
Dana what the fuck is your post all about? It seems like some incoherent bullshit to me.
No one in New York really fucks with G Unit except for the tourists in manhattan.
By the way,
dave mays and benzino was on STAR (105.1 NYC) and buck wild this morning discussing the incident with Bus (and SPIFF). dave seemed really shook and appeared to be lieing when he said some1 snuck him with a blow 2 the head. he reluctantly admitted he received 2 stitches.
benzino, on the other hand , was trying 2 "keep it a little street" as he had the most 2 say and popped the most junk. For whatever reasons, they conveniently became "dropped" on the phone we STAR asked the more pressing questions.
READING IS FUNDAMENTAL> YOU WOULDN"T HAVE TO ASK STUPID QUESTIONS IF YOU TOOK THE TIME TO READ THE POST
he's being nice
we really do think snap muzik sux
however the hoes like it so we dance to it anyway. If she gotta fatty I don't care what playing!
My Personal opinion
I like down south music alot
but in the East Coast we're much more about lyric's so when I listen to alot of the new South artist Lyrically I'm not impressed or yall all talk about the same ish.
Luda's hot (I can safely say most of us luv Luda he brings it on every track), was a big Mystikal fan, T.I is fire
Scarface, Outkast, warming up to Chamillionaire, Hate fking Nelly!
Lil Jon is fun, Lyrically I hate Jeezy but he's got some good songs.
Reality is yall will be more embraced when yall step it up lyrically
ain't madd at your paper though
lil wayne is the best rapper in the game
the south must be doing something right. yall cant seem to keep the region as a whole out your mouths. sounds like envy to me.all that been there done that crap and lyrically this and that sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. when the east was on top we were buying the shit and feeling what yall were saying. some of the shit didnt apply to us and we didn't knock yall for us not relating to the shit.now the tables are turned and yall are finding every little thing to say about the south cuz yall cant relate. muthafuckas just cant have fun on records like dfb and d4l. yall had the same problem when deathrow was big. didnt understand that side so yall talked shit then too. you might as well stop running this blog cuz you probably gonna hear alot of hate coming from the east. niggas in the south dont even care.
That is your problem SOHH NYC, you listen to what these dumb asses have to say on the blogs. Most of them are either in High School still or they don't really know what they are talking about. There is a world outside of the internet! The south shows love to all regions. We support the music if it is good. I think the problem is most people outside of our region judge the music by what they hear on the radio or see on BET. People don't realize that music is for the masses so you have to keep it simple. You come out with a catchy hook and a beat to dance to and you have satisfied the masses. That is basically the formula for the entire industry nowadays. Just like you can't judge all the NY fans for hating on the south, you can't say that all southerns are quick to judge your region. Look outside of the internet!
G-UNIT RUN NY AND NY RUN THE HIPHOP GAME.
that's real talk rude nigga. south shows luv and we also do our thing.
AND THEY'RE OFF:
LET THE STANFEST BEGIN.
50 PLEASE LET ME GET MY SHINE ON!!
PLEASE TELL JIMMY IOVINE TO RELEASE MY SHIT!!
Rude Nigga
I agree
East Coast niggas go an a rampage about how the south isn't lyrical and intentionally forget, Andre 3000, Scarface, Killer Mic.
If anyone beleives New York Hip Hop is the best (which someone being from new york might think) is just New York State of Mind. Remeber, anything as simple as Hip Hop is argumentive. So stop being quick with the insults and Tunnel-Visoned Ideas on Hip Hop.
I really don't pay attention to the insults because I know they are not true.
Hell, we all know snap music is not hip hop. At least they have their own style. Stop trippin, it's just a dance.
I love Hip Hop no matter the region or city it comes from.
Hip Hop is Hip Hop and downing another region is denying what hip hop is. Hip Hop evolves if it stayed in one place then it would evaporate.
Shout out to Albany,GA the best city in GA.
bigced
I agree
And if snap music is so bad and so not hip hop. Then how can one define The Harlem Shake. LOL
When New York puts out bullshit they never mention it. You niggas even support bullshit that comes out of your city. But when the south does the same your so quick to jump on our dicks.
Hell yeah, I like snap music, and the harlem shake. LOL
SOHH NYC I thank you for simplifying the differences.
ok time for a reality check...every region has it's lyrical and it's non lyrical MC's..so stop the separation..
first I am from NY..Queens to be exact..
now..recently I have been listening to that new TI album and I will say that it's straight fire..I can listen to it from start to finish...I was a skeptic on his last album..not because I bought it and did not liek it..just because the singles he had out had to grow on me...but this album made me wish I had bought the last one...he has everything from hard core to melodic songs to even a song about a dead loved one...it showed range and that's what many albums these days lack..from any coast...
I listen to music from every coast..as long as it's good enough to keep my interest..
also..that new Mobb mixtape is straight fire as well...if teh album is anything liek this..I am definitely buying it...I hate when peopel try and debate that Mobb fell off and the only thing they can say is about who tehy signed to..that's just stupid..
We dont hate on the south, we just hate on snap music, and gay shit... If we were hating on the south cuz we make fun of Laffy Taffy and DFB, then, are we making fun of NY for hatin' on The Pink Panther? Cuz we go at him hard
P.S:No-Homo
this is my problem with you NY cats,you think you can judge what other people should be doing "the south needs to step up their game lyrically" who made you all the judge and jury of what we should do,we make music for us period,like NY artist make music for NY,back in the day the south had no choice but to listen to NY rap but now its different we have our own artist,style and lingo you may not like it but it is what it is....New York had negative things to say about the west coast when it took over in the early to mid 90's now you have something to say about the SOUTH....yall give out so much negativity that i have to call yall some haters point blank...if you are tired of seeing the south all over the video channels some one from NY needs to step up but i doubt that ever happens because NY has to much hate in yall hearts..yall beefing with each other while southern artist unite we having fun in the game while yall on the sidelines sulking like bitches hating on our success....
G-Unit should be the only ones to represent hip hop
they're the only ones dropping hot shit all the time
No one in New York really fucks with G Unit except for the tourists in manhattan.
Posted by: Stop Snitching Stop Lying at April 5, 2006 11:25 AM
Haha shit had me laughing. But I definitely agree with this blog. I'm from the south and I'll be the first to admit I don't listen to a lot of Southern MCs but there are a couple I'll listen to. Like T.I., Outkast, Scarface. I got love for all regions. As long as you got talent I don't care where you reppin.
A YO WEBSTER AND BIG CED....DO ME A FAVOR AND SHUT THE FUCK UP.....ANDRE 3000 AND KILLA MIKE....SHUT THE FUCK UP.....RAKIM AND KANE NIGGA.....SAY NO MORE
THINKIN NEW YORK HIP HOP IS BEST IS A NEW YORK STATE OF MIND YOU BITCH ASS NIGGA.....THEN IF YOU AINT FROM NY AND YOU DOIN NEW YORK MUSIC.....WHAT THE FUCK STATE OF MIND YOU TRYIN TO GET IN BITCH ASS
FOR ALL THESE IGNORAMOUS SOUTH NIGGAZ.....FUCK YA'LL.....NYC STARTED THIS SHIT IT'S RULES FOR THIS SHIT.....
TALKIN BOUT HIP HOP EVOLVES......GET OFF NY DICK AND EVOLVE YOUR OWN HOTT MUSIC THEN COME ON THIS BLOG AND TRY TO PLAY US
NY READY TO BLAM ON YA'LL NIGGAS.....YA'LL DONT EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW SERIOUS WE TAKE RAP AND LYRICS....
BUSTA JUST DROPPED "NY SHIT"....I AIN'T MAD CAUSE I FEEL THE WAR IS COMING......EVEN WITH THE WEST NY DIDN'T HAVE THIS MUCH FURY.......WE GON BOMB ON THESE SOUTH NIGGAS AND SEE WHATS WHAT...
AND I DON'T WANNA SEE ANYBODY DIE OR DUMB SHIT LIKE DAT.....BUT OBVIOUSLY TO NEW YORK CITY.....RAP AINT JUST MUSIC.....AND UNFORTUNATELY NY BEEFIN' WITH EACH OTHER AIN'T GONNA DO IT ...
I THINK WE STILL A LITTLE SHOOK UP FROM THE EAST WEST SHIT AND WHAT HAPPENED....BUT EVERY NEW YORKER KNOWS THE ONLY WAY TO SNAG THE GAME BACK RIGHT NOW IS NOT THRU JUST MUSIC...BUT CONFRONTIN THE SOUTH....
NYC STAND UP NIGGAZ
NY MEANS NOT YOU,
You are a clueless fuck. Busta is cool with niggas from the south. You got to be the dumbest person on this blog. There is no war starting. Nobody is talking shit except for the bloggers. Your not going to bomb on anybody because you are behind your computer screen. Nobody is going to die over this shit. Shut your bitter ass up and continue to hit the Caps Lock.
^^^^^^^^
Preach brother! Take em' to church!
I'm from the south, (N.C. to be exact), and we are a really good combination of both. N.C. is the south but is deep rooted in East Coast Culture so most of the music we listen to does tend to lean towards the east coast lyrisists. However, we are still in the south so the respect is still given to groups like Outkast, T.I., Luda, UGK, Slim Thug, and other southern artists. We also listen to the cats out in the West Coast like Murs, Snoop, and Ras Kass. The difference is the fact that in the south we show LOVE. We listen to it all. When have you EVER heard anyone from the south talking trash about how WACK Dipset is? Or how G-Unit dont do NOTHING but hate on who's hot at the time. You are NOT gonna sit here and tell me that every MC in NY spit that real shit b/c NY HipHop on a whole SUCKS right now. All you all talk about is ice, guns, and what kinda of cars you got. Yes NY hiphop is my personal favorite but STOP HATIN!!! Every region is gonna go through a period where they are shinning. NY had it, then Snoop and Dre took over. B.I.G, Nas, and Jay-Z brought it back. Nelly came along and showed us how they do in the midwest. Now its OUR TURN!!!! Quit fuckin hatin and step your game up. The only problem I have is that the "NY" fans seem to think that just b/c hiphop started there gives you the right to critisize everyone else when you are simply not up on your game right now. When Jay-Z does his thing we are right there to support him. When Nas signed to DefJam it was NY HIPHOP FANS that dissed him for that. "WE" supported him as he made the most CRUTIAL MOVE in HISTORY!!!! Shit, you all hate on EACHOTHER more than anyone else. You are a city of HATERS!!!!!
Point Blank and PERIOD.
Yes, D4L SUCKS!!! Yes, The Franchise Boys are not lyrical. But did you see us hating when Diptset sped up all of this music that totally disrepected soul music? No. Shit, Nelly is worse than them all but you HAVE to respect the fact that he came in and created his own lane. He is a black man from the streets that came in and created a different sound. If you dont like it, dont buy it. But dont act like all pure hiphop only comes from N.Y. b/c YOU ALL ARE THE ONES THAT ARE FUCKIN IT UP.
Nuff said.....
I'm from the eastcoast, so of course I feel eastcoast a little more than South. You always gonna rep where u come from. When I listen to music my preference is lyrics cuz that is why I like to listen to hip hop. But I don't hate on the south, if your lyrics are on point then i bump you too(Outkast, Scarface, Cham, Luda, etc) When NY niggaz hate on laffy taffy its becuz they all style no substance but if u like party tracks then its understandable to feel them. I think dipset (and they from NY) is whack cuz they make that party music and their lyrics are garbage. It all depends on why u like hip hop period
WEST COAST UNDERGROUND HIP HOP!!
but yeah old school new york hip hop is ill but they mos def fell off latley lyrically...as for the south? never really felt them cats, other than outkast, goodie mobb, Luda, scarface, and im sure theres a few more i just cant think of right now..but that new shit they puttn out just aint my thang but get ya money!! just not my money...16y/o white kids have enough for all ya'll asses...
ez...
Here's a question for you south heads. What artist besides luda can make a song and the song is based on that specific topic the whole song. Very few,I can't fron't Im a harlem cat and I am feeling jeezy, and ti more than alot of other cats right now. Loyed banks is that cat too. But compare your raekwons, ghosts, twalib kwali, mos def, Loyd banks, there's many more. but just these artist alone can eat any south artist, except luda maybe..
JERSEY CITY GON BRING THE EAST BACK
It's all about Papoose and Dipset.
LUDA THE NICEST IN THE SOUTH. HE MADD DIFFERENT AND ORINGINAL.AINT NOBODY THAT NICE ON THE EAST I'M REALLY FEELIN' EXCEPT JOE BUDDEN, FAB AND AND J.R WRITER AND I LIVE IN JERSEY CITY
"Crabs in a bucket" That's the one thing that annoys me about hip-hop, everyone always has to hate on someone who is doing well. You look for their faults, meanwhile you'd love to be them or in their position. P.S. I have always liked New York hip-hop, New York is hip-hop. But, now they are stagnant, which could be said about the south as well cause the candy paint and getting crunk is kinda played out in my opinion. It's just the south makes the party records that reach the masses, hip-hop bandwagon jumpers like it and that's where we are at now.
SHUT THE FUCK UP SOHH NYC.
NIGGA I'M FROM NY AND I CAN'T STAND YOUR ASS. DROPPING SNEAK DISSES AND SHIT. I CAN'T STAND DIPSHIT. ONLY NIGGAS I'LL LISTEN TO FROM THOSE BITCHES IS HELL RELL AND 50 YEAR OLD JR WRITER, BUT DEM BITCHES IS WHACK CUZ. OLD G-UNIT IS GOOD, ASIDE FROM THEIR BIG COMMERCIAL SINGLES THEY ARE TIGHT. THEIR MIXTAPES BE ON POINT. ALOT OF THEM AREN'T EVEN NY CATS NO MORE CUZ THEY JUST SIGNED ALOT OF WEST COAST CATS...AND SOUTHERN CATS. NIGGAS HEAR "CANDYSHOP" AND DON'T REALIZE DEM NIGGAS BEEN PUTTING OUT HEART ALONG TIME BEFORE THE BLEW. IF YOU LISTEN TO ONLY THEIR MAINSTREAM SINGLES AND CDS YOU GON BE DISAPPOINTED, BUT I HEARD DAT NIGGA ALONG TIME AGO I WAS IMPRESED, SO I STILL FUCK WITH MOST OF THEIR SHIT EVEN THOUGH THEY FELL OF LYRICALLY A BIT.
BROWNSVILEE NIGGA. C-C-C CLAP IT UP!
"who made you all the judge"... for your info... nyc is the judge and jury. hip hop is ours. the culture as a whole... do yall niggas even fucking realize that for some one to even rap ver a beat a dj had 2 be choppin up an rock n rol record. that concept came outta the bronx... wit thats the most basic component of hip hop music.. face it. yall saw what we was doin and yall copied.. plain and simple... yall sell more units butb we put out better shit. thats factual
@C- Flat: I feel that, its the same way here in Bmore, We are East Coast to the Core, Blue Collar, Row House living people. I kinda figured NC got down wit East Coast music like that because of Little Brother who do Undergorund music better than the "Real" Underground which orginated but almost no longer exists in NYC. Same with Chicago, look at Lupe Fiasco who's gettin all this praise from Hov, Kayne, Common, Bump J...Even the Underground Has been lost by NY, nothin personal but NY rappers need to step up. Their new generation of rappers comin up don't have it. Point Blank period. Who has came from NY and been really hot since '02? Other the G- Unit which most NY niggas don't wanna claim, and even with them 50 came out in '98 orignally with the last Good Batch of NY Rappers (Pun, Lox, Cam, NORE) They all gettin old now and and aint none of the yougins steppin up to properly replace them. So it looks like its gonna be a minute before NY gets any control in the game again. I come to NY often, I cop clothes for my store from there. I pop on HOT 97, and even when they try to put a new artist on there from the area the shit sucks, Like they were playin this cat named NEWZ joint (From Blok Gang, I'm up on my music) and that shit was trash but they were dropping bombs like it was Hot. Were are the NEW good NYC Rappers at? Pap: wont sell platinum-no look, too much emphasis on saying how nice he is. Saigon: Aight, but doesn't have that platinum artist feel. Maino: Well he's with Lil Kim, need I say more? Cory Gunz: another Mediocre, plus sounds too much like Baby Hova without Hov's creativity. Forget Houston we have a problem, NY we have a problem.
Dipset = trash
Fuck New York, Its Not The 90s Anymore. Aint Nobody Outta NY Fucking With TI, Luda, Slim Thug, Trick Daddy....... Fuck It Yall Wack With The Exception Of 50, Jay, Jada
That Was Me, Fuck New York!!!!!
That Was Me, Fuck New York!!!!!
I understand what most of you are tryna say. Shit I'm from southeast GA all day. 4 show. There are a lot of overrated Mc's all over the globe, but our artists(and yes I embrace them all, even the bad ones) seemed to get pegged with all of the criticism. People from this region are poor and struggle just like People from New York and other Northern regions, but like 'Dre said from outkast, down here it's so wide open shit our stores are damned near 50 miles apart. Shit to go get fye outfits and shoes, we have travel up down the Georgia Florida Coast. That's why our music sort of reflects that. Trust me it's more bad then good down here, but we choose to reflect different things in our music, shit we get crunk and snap dance a lil bit. It's what we know, so don't fight it embrace it.
It's all about Papoose, G-Unit, Saigon, Busta etc. Fuck Dipset, if all yall assholes so much of a dipshit fan then why u always buying their albums from the chinese man($5). next time buy the real shit so they can go platium for once because every album dipset put out goes double brick, thats not runnin NY. Not at all. 50 and gunit are the only niggas selling units. And papoose and saigon is the future. so dont even mention their name because they are shity and a bunch of homos. P.S. and they arent real bloods, the real gangbangers reside in Cali and young jeezy is the shitiest rapper ever to make it, he has know lyrical ability and talks about the same shit in every record. the only reason he went plat is because he's from ATL. Oh yea by 2007 dipshit will be forgotten and yall gonna be dick ridin some other group. and yall faggots know it. stupid muthafuckas. listen to some vintage big and jay-z to find out what real hip-hop/rap is. oh yea shout out to busta because he is gonna bring NY back. not Dipset, not G-Unit but Busta Rhymes. Yes believe me.
dana rogers you may be correct in your assumptions about "raekwon, ghosts, twalib kwali, mos def, Loyd banks" but who is best is subjective and we could go back and forth all day about who has better artist NY or the SOUTH but it just a matter of opinion...now all the people you named with the exception of Banks make music its for you cats in NY,thats cool but that will move only 100000-200000 units they dont have any appeal to make people from outside of NY to buy their cd's its as simple as that......and that is NY's problem you can make a cd with all this "lyrisism" but it has no appeal to anyone outside of NY now you may say fuck what everywhere thinks this is my shit and thats cool because in the South we say the same thing....NY has lost its swagger now you on the outside looking in.....the SOUTH has love for everybody but NY cant even love itself and thats why so much hate come out of NY...I am from the SOUTH and I have love for NY if it wasnt for the south bronx this shit wouldnt be here but you need to come of of that high horse and get yall shit together...big ups to bumpy nucklez and diamond d
Yall say it will be embraced when we step it up lyrically, shit yall got da lyrics and ain't got shit to show for it. Making an album is more than quality lyrics, shit its song writing, producing melodies, and making people feel your shit. Regardless of whether or not u speakin on some real shit. Music is art, it's not all reality all the time. Have fun. Lighten up. Let's embrace each other.
Krs 1, Biggie, Nas, Jay Z, Run DMC, Big Pun, Big L, A Tribe Called Quest,Rakim, Kool G Rap, Kane, Brand Nubian, Mobb deep (b4 they became fag), Public Enemy, Black Moon, LL COOL J, Busta Rhymes, 50 Cent,...Come on guys do we really have to talk about this ??? And I don't mention the DJ (Red Alert, Kool Herc, Flash, Clue, Kay Slay, Whoo Kid,...)
WE RUN THIS SHIT !!!!
Krs 1, Biggie, Nas, Jay Z, Run DMC, Big Pun, Big L, A Tribe Called Quest,Rakim, Kool G Rap, Kane, Brand Nubian, Mobb deep (b4 they became fag), Public Enemy, Black Moon, LL COOL J, Busta Rhymes, 50 Cent,...Come on guys do we really have to talk about this ??? And I don't mention the DJ (Red Alert, Kool Herc, Flash, Clue, Kay Slay, Whoo Kid,...)
WE RUN THIS SHIT !!!!
Krs 1, Biggie, Nas, Jay Z, Run DMC, Big Pun, Big L, A Tribe Called Quest,Rakim, Kool G Rap, Kane, Brand Nubian, Mobb deep (b4 they became fag), Public Enemy, Black Moon, LL COOL J, Busta Rhymes, 50 Cent,...Come on guys do we really have to talk about this ??? And I don't mention the DJ (Red Alert, Kool Herc, Flash, Clue, Kay Slay, Whoo Kid,...)
WE RUN THIS SHIT !!!!
Krs 1, Biggie, Nas, Jay Z, Run DMC, Big Pun, Big L, A Tribe Called Quest,Rakim, Kool G Rap, Kane, Brand Nubian, Mobb deep (b4 they became fag), Public Enemy, Black Moon, LL COOL J, Busta Rhymes, 50 Cent,...Come on guys do we really have to talk about this ??? And I don't mention the DJ (Red Alert, Kool Herc, Flash, Clue, Kay Slay, Whoo Kid,...)
WE RUN THIS SHIT !!!!
Krs 1, Biggie, Nas, Jay Z, Run DMC, Big Pun, Big L, A Tribe Called Quest,Rakim, Kool G Rap, Kane, Brand Nubian, Mobb deep (b4 they became fag), Public Enemy, Black Moon, LL COOL J, Busta Rhymes, 50 Cent,...Come on guys do we really have to talk about this ??? And I don't mention the DJ (Red Alert, Kool Herc, Flash, Clue, Kay Slay, Whoo Kid,...)
WE RUN THIS SHIT !!!!
I CANT WAIT TO GO AND LEAN WIT IT ROCK WIT IT!!
DID I JUST SAY THAT? FUCK SNAP MUSIC!!!
SHEEEEA I FORGOT WU-TANG and Euff Ryders...Come on guys it's a wrap
Webster and Big Ced got in all yall a-- i don't have but one thang to say. the Hip Hop media (mostly from the east cost) has been the one that has really held the south back from the exposure that's it's getting now. (Except for Scareface) I think they got tired of the same old sound out there and wanted to here something different. But you know what the south is really about and people from everywhere can't stand it, THAT MONEY. Pay attention class. Master P is the first one in the history of hip hop, not even Russell Simons, to create a record label and keep all his money. Now everybody and they mama trying to duplicate that. That nigga change the game as we know it today. A cat from the south. Holla
I think NY is stuck in a bubble, noone knows have the artists you ppl call great, difference is the Southern artists have more soul to their music, and New York is just mostly hype, no substance, you rap about shit that someone from the south or west coast wants to hear, that shit is only relevant in New York, thats why you only have a few artists that blow up as opposed to the South, 50 Cent, Camron, Juelz,Diddy, are not re Hip Hop, and who the fuck is Papoose and Saigon..noone cares...
PAC was right about fake NY dudes!!!!
Who is this idiot posting multiple comments? I think we should look beyond regions because hip hop is universal. I think the main problem is the corporate world is taking control of our music. That issue is bigger than a little regional war. If you don't like the state of the game then do something to change it. How do you expect anything to change when you keep going to the labels that are determining what is hot? Most of the southern artist you see in the mainstream started from the ground up. They had to move an exceptional amount of units independently before getting any recognition. They made it so labels would come to them with distribution deals. That is why you see new southern artist who were never heard of outside of their region with records labels and major distribution (Luda, Young Jeezy, Rick Ross, T.I). There are no major labels in the south like there is in NY so they have to do it that way. I have respect for NY music but you will never bring NY back if you depend on major labels to release the albums. The only way you will bring it back is starting an independent movement. The whole industry needs to start the movement. You don't have to sign these slavery deals with the major labels to make money.
NY MEANS NOT YOU
First off I can tell you are younger.
Secondly, you seem to have the least bit of knowledge about hip hop itself.
Your probably just some young high school drop out depressed fuck, Sittin around on his computer hidding behind the screen the ho nigga that you truly are.
Third, I got love for New York and it's overall hip hop scene. I never said I hated New York.
Had your dumbass read the comment I said I respect all hip hop from all regions.
Now, to come at me with that horrid written expression, and failure to express yourself vurgurally already hit the rock bottom for you.
Athough I dobut Ill respond to anymore of your illerate shit. peace fuckboy
"If you don't like where I stay, fly away....fly away"
-'Fly Away', GOODie MOB, Still Standing
I'm surprised the blog hasn't disentegrated as badly into the 'fuck NY/south ain't shit' vitriol I was anticipating but for the most part folks- NY and ATL- can maybe agree on 2 things: 1)Yes we know NY started hip hop so y'all haters up top (not the congratulators) stop hating that it evolved outside the tri-state; 2)We'll show 'em love but not everyone in tha A is nuts over D4L/DFB; who's studyin' lyrics when you in Vision w/a hen shot in one hand and 'laffy taffy' in front of you?
Times are always changing so if its advancement causes you to remain stagnant then step ya game up to keep up and MAYBE y'all can reclaim the crown. Until then keep it pimpin'; i'm startin' to see spaceships on baaaaank-heeeeaaad....
atl love to Diamond D, Brand Nubian, Stetsasonic, Kane, EPMD, Wu-Tang, M.O.P, Mobb Deep, Nas, 'Hov, fif- but only from the 'Power Of A Dollar' days-PE, Tribe, and last but not least....the NY cat that gets THE most spins in the A 20 years later....Afrikaa Bambaataa & the Soul Sonic Force.....Planet Rock Forever!
@NewsFlash....Thats another thing. These corporate MF"S have taken this shit and now have it a state were pushin poisin to the people is the plan. You think there could be a Self Destruction type song nowadys? Popular rappers is too scared to be labled conscious. Plus for that too happen NY rappers would actually have to get along first. What's the chance of that? Everybody got Ego's. Dipset don't like G-Unit who don't like Terror Squad who cool with Murder Inc who got beef wit...whatever the fuck. Basically, NY needs to unite. Shit I remember just in '98 NORE did Banned from TV wit 6 different niggas on it. Nowadays, everybody wanna be the man so crews don't even interact like that no more. That's where the problem is. Hov tried to set an example for niggas by squashin his beef wit Nas and deadin the G- Unit Rumors, he aint respondin to Cam. Niggas aint even catchin the hint. He see the South doin it. Shit, he aint the Pres of Def Jam for nothin. Who was the last NY Rapper he signed to Def Jam? he grabbin South Acts cause he know, NY niggas to busy fightin each other to see the bigger picture. Hov retired now? Who gonna set trends for yall to follow? Like I said before Somebody gotta step and Take the Lead. 50 got his thing off by beefing, so now everybody else wanna beef, Obviously that shit aint workin for yall so get a Plan B and startin makin music that ma fukas outside ya region will like. Invent a new style, set a trend, stop beatin niggas in the head wit the same 'ol bullshit retoric about the Bitches, Ice, and Thuggery. Lyrics is Good always have good lyrics, but its how you present it. Thats gonna make the masses wanna buy it.
I'm not hating either webster. While u clown are talkin shit (labels,the media,..) I'm givin' u facts my man. Boogie Down productions and Juice crew never received a cover of XXL. They never signed huge check . I'm talkin bout skillz and influence on the game. Stop frontin' !!! Only these two crew can crush the whole nation. IT'S A FACT and like i said b4 I'm not hatin' (I'll neva front on Ice Cube, Dre, or ScarFace)I'm just statin' ! Holla
ugk,8ball and mjg,outkast,goodie mobb, scarface,geto boys,lil wayne,juve,lil brother,ti,luda, pastor troy, three six mafia,dj screw,jeezy,Z-RO,B.G,Devin the dude,Dirty Boys,Trick Daddy,David Banner,Mystical,and a whole lot of newcomers.Texas,Louisiana,Georgia,Florida,Alabama,Tennesee,The Carolinas,Arkansas,Missisippi, I mean the south just too damn deep, so if yall don't love us nowhere else we gon continue to support each other like we always have. We been on top of this shit, yall niggas just startin to notice
TO NYPD:
FIRST OF ALL MOFO RESEARCH SOME SHIT B4 U START LETTING STUPID SHIT FLY OUT OF YOUR MOUTH. You obviously ain't no true hip hop fan and don't know shit about the south. Because if u think the shit that them mofo up north is sayin' is all deep and on some real shit then u need 2 lose the address 2 this board. Niggaz rhyme about different shit all the time depending on how they feel and what they about. You must be mad def son if you ain't hearing Jeezy, TI,Wayne etc. on the shit they spittin. Cuz you can't get no reala that that shit. Now BIG and HOV get props as far as lyricist. But one can't go so far as to say that NY is lyricist-oriented as opposed to South.
Shit just sounds stupid.
AND WHO GIVES A FUCK IF YA'LL DON'T LIKE D4L AND DEM FRANCHISE BOYS.
SHIT SOMEBODY DO IF THEY KEEP PLAYING IT ON THE MOFO RADIO!!!!!
EVERYBODY WANNA LEAN WIT IT!!!!
Anyway I understand you all wanting to mask your jealousy with irrelavant criticism. But stop being pussy about it before you get Fucked!!!
Does Shakeem work for G-Unit.
Who is the best in the bean.
New York First Lady,
Your what the games been missing because we are trying to fucking hide you. You Suck!!!
Ooops I meant to say you're.
Constantly the south challenge our NY artistry// Only seconds later to say they aren't lyrically as hard as we// Its sickening to see the blasphemers ruin da game with there lecture// As these so called word smiths forget NY's the meccas// All day I am Aiian//Which is a throwback to niggas in Queens rapping on the porch// Break it down to a science Az Iz I Am NY// We know where we came from know where the history is// So why is the south finally come up it seems so mysterious// Well you heard jay sometimes you gotta dumb down for the audience to double your dollars// The south been knew that so they preceeded to follow// I cant stand for the direction of this music// Rap right now is ass and as long as the south on top then get used to it//
Az Iz I am NY man NY is coming back even if i got to hold it on my back.
Uh oh here comes the ignorant school kids. Time for dumb statements. And it was good until now.
east coast negros are funny thinking their better than people from the south. Anyway you put it you still a nigga. Yall just talk funny with your yos,ma, and whatever crazy sounds you all make. We in the south dont hate on each other like you all do. In the recent years the only thing coming out of NY is beef and bullshit, and thats real talk. Beef- from cam, 50, jay, and whoever your hero is. Bullshit- santana=whisle, 50-all that ja rule r&b singa turned rapper, lil kim and the rest of yall still running Biggie to the ground. Is the purpose of this column is to state that we realize the south has taken over and we just cant accept it? And to be honest the hottest rapper out right now hasnt been from the east coast for a while. And hes been in the game for a while not just reppin the south but the N.O. Hes has more lyrics than anybody on the radio, mixtapes, and whatever else he has been on. Im not even from the N.O. but i think nobody is fucking with him. So NY step your game up because we going to start pissing on you soon. Rock wit it!!
You wanna dwell on the images of outsiders????
Are you as stupid as you sound???
Let's try 2 be for real if only fa a min. Most mofo on this board is niggaz. New York is fucking melting pot. Mouthafucka ATLANTA is the BLACK MECCA of the United States. Of course some out of the country ignorant mofo gonna wanna come to NY bc they don't know shit they still feeding off that OLD Shit!
And I don't where you get off saying niggaz up there ain't fake
NY HARVESTED THE FAKEST MOFO OF THEM ALL NIGGA: 50 CENT.
So get fa real and that shit goes to you and your bitch Joakim Noah!!!!
I see you New Yorkers talk big shit!!
Which is probably an extension of your lil dicks!!!!!
Honestly man lil wayne is nice but if you listen to most of his shit its all the same too yeah he got amazing metaphors but his style is very simplistic i love wayne but he aint always killing niggas just on his dick cuz he copying hova and they like it cuz its a lil taste of hova in da south. lol you niggas funny i aint even going to say shit bout g unit cuz i like dem not cuz dey from ny but because them niggas is on they grind doing what they do. fuck that snap shit anyone who like it should have they neck snapped
Oh yeah that was all me
Ms. Campbelton Rd.
I want to ask the person who wrote this blog what you know about going uptown to see papi, or should I say which papi are you talking about St. Nic papi Amsterdam papi??? I know all about the papi spot
new york hip hop more "TRUE TO LIFE?"
down here, we really do this shit we talk about. any rapper that says anything that ain't real down ehre gets called out and gets checked. there's no avoiding each other down here. it's like a small town, we all know each other, so if there's beef, it ain't hard to find other people, and it ain't hard to find out the truth.
you have to get 100 with your shit in the south.
oh, yeah, texas is where the real hustlers are made.
i must admit, i hate snap music.
but amidst all this arguing, i think the south and the east both agree that HYPHY IS THE WORST SHIT WE'VE EVER HEARD OF.
what the fucK? dreads? golds? blades? butterfly doors? swangin? vogues?
GET OFF DICK.
im from Brooklyn, NY niggaz is doin a lot of hatin i must admit, and i cant blame yall southerners 4 say fuck NY. we need to unite as a city and make bangin music.i know NYC music aint stiop wit wit Jigga. that new newyork movement (Tru-Life, Saigon, Papoose ,Jae Millz, Maino, ETC) is wack b. well saigon is nice but still lets b real. none of them niggaz is ressurecting the city. NY we need some innovative, lyrcially equpped niggaz to bring the city back. lets do this NYC.
cuz ill be damned if camron and his crew is the best we got to offer.
east ,west south all yall shut the fuck up cause nobody gives a fuck about you no matter where you from.this is music so get the hell off this blog with this civil war crap you dumb kids. ny cant sell if the south or west aint buyin and south cant sell unless east and west is buyin etc. so no matter who is on top it aint because of where you come from.look at d-block, fat joe etc.ny loves these clown but thats it.yall diss g-unit but they have fans everywhere it aint about no coast shit.it's about makin money no matter where you reppin.game would'nt blow unless south and east showed loved same for 50,jay , snoop etc.am in new york and in the clubs if a song is hot niggas dance and have fun regardless where the shit coming from.yall need to kill this kiddie bullshit because your coast that yall reppin so hardon these blogs dont give a fuck about you.everybody need everybody to succeed hiphop need unity not what yall promoting,once again big ups to g-unit because they recently added some cats from arizona (willie northpole,hot rod,carnegie)and there is g-unit south also.some slown said that g-unit dont represent ny who cares they rep whoever shows them love fuck yall.yall got some nerve yall should be proud of them niggas and what they accomplished even with all that nyc hate.
i agree NY and the south must join forces against the hyphy movement. or well all be copyin them, and ghostridin the train and our candy painted cars. and well be dancin in the middle of the street like fools to no music. and wearin ugly shades and usin funny slang.
ONE THING NY AND SOUTH CAN AGREE ON !!
LETS STOP THE HYPHY MOVEMENT NOW
Shit I feel u son. I wuz born and raised in Yonkers and I swear everything is so fucking repetitive in NY. No creativeness exists in the music being made up here. The gold medal goes to the South Hands down. 2 keep it real most niggaz here is thirsty 4 that down South shit.
It's the Hataz not the motivators that talk shit.
Thanks for your honesty!!
Who cares about those guys. T.I is on top.He debut at #1 and first week sales top 522,000. The South taking over the rap sceen. East and West coast rappers need to step there game up cause the fallen off! Camron sucks ass, Dipset sucks, except Juelz, Young Buck needs to leave G-unit, Banks has talent but needs to get off of 50's dick, Yayo... what Can I say about him that everyone else hasnt. Mobb Deep? Those Cats just happy to be gettin paid,same wit M.O.P
T.I the King has takin his place on the throne.
Southside!!
WORD LIFE SOHH NYC.
I JUS WANNA ADD FUCK SUGAR RAP.
YALL NEED TO READ THIS DECK INTERVIEW AND GET RIGHT -> http://www.hiphopgame.com/index2.php...inspectahdeck2
4 THE REAL
AND PIC UP THE WU TANG MANUAL.
ALL I GOTTA SAY IS.....
.... R.A.G.U.
Hold up everybody on here saying rappers from the south sell the most right now well I got the latest soundscan numbers right here:
01 NE-YO - IN MY OWN WORDS 301,994
05 MARY J. BLIGE - BREAKTHROUGH 1,894,126
13 EMINEM - CURTAIN CALL 2,065,963
15 BLACK EYED PEAS - MONKEY BUSINESS 3,471,155
17 DEM FRANCHIZE BOYZ - ON TOP OF OUR GAME 255,444
20 JAHEIM - GHETTO CLASSICS 252,745
21 KEYSHIA COLE - WAY IT IS 977,859
22 CHRIS BROWN - CHRIS BROWN 1,104,581
24 JAMIE FOXX - UNPREDICTABLE 1,574,603
31 SEAN PAUL - TRINITY 663,673
33 T-PAIN - RAPPA TERNT SANGA 348,087
34 MARIAH CAREY - EMANCIPATION OF MIMI 5,434,116
42 NELLY - SWEATSUIT 503,482
49 LIL' WAYNE - CARTER II 797,623
50 NOTORIOUS B.I.G. - DUETS: THE FINAL CHAPTER 930,109
56 GORILLAZ - DEMON DAYS 1,737,539
57 DADDY YANKEE - BARRIO FINO ENDIRECTO 445,295
58 KANYE WEST - LATE REGISTRATION 2,644,626
64 DESTINY'S CHILD - #1'S 16,240 -17 19,562 1,007,612
67 YOUNG JEEZY - LET'S GET IT 1,494,682
70 THREE 6 MAFIA - MOST KNOWN UNKNOWN 689,104
77 D4L - DOWN FOR LIFE 388,245
81 ANTHONY HAMILTON - AIN'T NOBODY WORRYING 362,255
87 JOHN LEGEND - GET LIFTED 1,635,709
91 JUELZ SANTANA - WHAT THE GAME'S BEEN MISSING 569,991
97 LUDACRIS & DTP - LUDACRIS PRESENTS DISTURBING THA PEACE 493,558
102 YING YANG TWINS - U.S.A. STILL UNITED 148,330
104 VARIOUS ARTISTS - MUSIC FROM & INSPIRED BY GET RICH 1,259,643
106 SCARFACE PRESENT THE PRODUCT - ONE HUNID 25,492
111 REMY MA - THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT REMY 76,340
127 PAUL WALL - PEOPLE'S CHAMP 662,425
136 DON OMAR - DA HIT MAN PRESENTS REGGAETON 190,264
137 DAMIAN MARLEY - WELCOME TO JAMROCK 455,311
143 HUSTLE & FLOW - SOUNDTRACK 328,314
158 BUN-B - TRILL 456,115
159 50 CENT - MASSACRE 4,924,049
166 ALICIA KEYS - UNPLUGGED 761,215
167 PITBULL - MONEY IS STILL A MAJOR ISSUE 216,695
168 BIZZY BONE - THUGS REVENGE 6,506
178 BONE THUGS-N-HARMONY - GREATEST HITS 474,205
179 DILATED PEOPLES - 20/20 18,210
181 REGGAETON NINOS - VOL. 1-REGGAETON NINOS 69,961
182 RIHANNA - MUSIC OF THE SUN 410,165
189 BOW WOW - WANTED 5898,632
191 YOLANDA ADAMS - DAY BY DAY 276,008
193 BIG BOI PRESENTS - VOL. 2-GOT PURP 172,656
Damn it seems like the rappers making the most money are still from the east and westcoast. hmmmm what a surprise hahahahahahah......
NYC Forever
Hey I like the hyphy movement lol. SOHH NYC I've been on this thing before trying to tell some simple-minded niggas how it is here. Its like typing to a brick wall so I gave up and just dont give a fuck what niggas got to say about NYC. They're going to think what they want especially the people who never been here and dont know people from NYC personally. Niggas on my block (I've been living in bedstuy for almost a year now, came from brownsville) and these niggas over here dont care where the music comes from as long as they like it.
Like I said Im in bedstuy dudes play Biggie AND Tupac even during the "west/east" beef. Blast T.I. and jeezy. Listen to Game and G-unit. Papoose AND Saigon...Little Brother and Scarface. Mobb deep and reggaeton. It doesnt matter so I really laugh at these people who TRY to tell me whats going on in NYC when Im the one living here. I actually was kind've late on Papoose. I found out about papoose two years ago when I was in new orleans so not everybody in the south has that "fuck new york" attitude" and not everybody here has that "fuck the south" attitude".Only simple-minded people think like that. A lot of people dont seem to realize that a lot of people, the fans dont judge their fav rappers' talent by how much their fav rapper sells. Im feeling some young cats out of Philly and that dude Al Gator, mad cats out of jersey..too many to name and just ppl all over. I could go on...Im listening to Fishscale as I type (9 Milli Bros) and its hot. Im getting T.I.'s album since people over here told me it was hot. Point is unless you live here, you cant tell me or anybody else shit about "hating" or about how people are over here cause I see a totally different thing every single day. Something totally different from which yall type in these lil blogs lol. Just like not everybody in the south likes D4L, not everybody in new york likes Dipset/g-unit. Just likes theres people in the south who like D4L, theres people here who like dipset/gunit and just like theres people in the south who like dipset and gunit, there are people here who like DFB. And THATS the truth.
Dipset is garbage!
Be on the lookout for the new
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FIRST OFF, TO THAT CAT NAMED ANONYMOUS! THERE YALL COUNTRY NIGGAZ GO AGAIN SAYING YALL GOT YOUR OWN STYLE AND LINGO! HOW CAN,T YALL SEE THAT YALL LINGO COME FROM US, AND YALL STYLE COME FROM US! THE ONLY THING YALL GOT THAT DIDN,T COME FROM US IS DOES CLOWN RIMS AND THAT SNAP MUSIC SHIT! LIKE I SAID BEFORE, COUNTRY NIGGAZ AIN,T BRINGING NOTHING NEW TO THE HIP HOP TABLE! ITS PPL LIKE YOU THAT MAKES ALOT OF NEWYORK PPL DISLIKE THE SOUTH! JUST LIKE SOHH SAID, NOBODY UP HERE IS MAD AT YALL SUCCESS, WE BEN THERE DONE THAT! WE BEN HAD MOVIES ABOUT OUR TOWN, EVERYTHING YALL ARE DOING NOW IS JUST A REPEAT TO US! WE JUST DON,T LIKE TO HEAR PPL THAT JUST MADE IT TO THE TOP TALKING GREASY LIKE THEY BEN HOLDING THIS CROWN! ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR SO CALLED KING OF THE SOUTH WANTS TO BE LIKE THE KING OF NEWYORK JAY-Z! ALL THAT GRILL SHIT AND 59FIFTY CAPS, WHERE DO YALL THINK IT THAT CAME FROM? WE ORIGANATED THAT SHIT NOT YALL! ALL THAT SHAWTY SHIT, WE BEN SAYING SHORTY! MOST OF YALL CAN,T SPEAK PROPER ENGLISH, SO YALL THINK THE SOUTH ORIGENATED THAT WORD! YALL WHOLE LOOK AND LINGO LOOKS LIKE NEWYORK REJECTS! STOP LYING TO YA SELVES!
Man Fuck This Blog and who ever wrote it! Stop DRY-Hating you BITCH! SWATS Zone4.
Tell you BYCH NY cats WHAT! We dont by yall music we got our own thang thats why yall dont sell and we do! Dont get me just dont listen to our music. Oh you cant cause its #1 on 106 & Park.
NYC, you cats got alot of arrogance but your swagger usually backs it up.
ATL, you got alot of cats in the game now but alot of them make you look bad.
The Bay, it's already been said that the Hyphy shit is not for the world to like. I've seen it myself and them niggaz are crazy and don't give a fuck if you like them or not. Everybody gonna copy their style in a year or two anyway.
The West, Game brought it back to the forefront for a while but he just keeps fucking up. We need another Dre album.
Mid-West, Where are you?
Thanks NY First Lady for that respect I am just trying to do what NY was supposed to do and rep. Now basically I think the main objective we need to come to an agreement out here in dis blog is that nah the south aint all wack and ny aint all fire. But the fact is this that snap music it got to go. And to speak on that hypy that shit is trash a lot of that E40 bay shit just aint my thing. But ti yeah he does his thing but you cant knock jeezy then because ti dont talk bout much the only southern rappers talking bout anything in da mainstream is luda and lil wayne and with that its mostly the latter. WE ALL AS HIP HOP FANS GOT TO GET OFF OUR ASS AND DEMAND HOTTER MUSIC.
omfg all this is bs and pointless arugiuing and ignorance. None of this is necessary. You have your nice and wack MS's every where just end all this non-sense and bs. No regions is da best or perfect. Every one had they chane to shine sure new york started it but spreead da wealth. Lets stop being ignorant and keep rap alive and true. I ask yall southerners a huge favor. Please stop thinkin were all for dat dipshit and g-unot crap. they suck and are pussy ass bitched. were about saigon papoose , nas , big , big l , rakim , big daddy kane , hell rell , mos def , talib kweli. i kno the south listens to more than that BS laffy taffy. I spit on D4L AND DFB. Im up for TI , Ludacris , lil brother , 3 6 mafia , lil wayne is fire , jeezy has sum nice beats , Joe Scudda etc. LETS END THIS BS ARGUMENT NOW TOGETHER WE CAN KILL PUNK ROCK MUSIK!
WE ALL AS HIP HOP FANS GOT TO GET OFF OUR ASS AND DEMAND HOTTER MUSIC.
^ I agree.
YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS......MUTHAFUCKA YOU CAN'T B SERIOUS......BUSTA COOL WITH SOUTH NIGGAZ SO HE CAN SELL RECORDS YOU DUMB FUCK, ITS STILLA BUSINESS...."SALUTIN' TRYIN TO GIVE ME A POUND/ I DON'T REALLY FUCK WIT YOU NIGGAZ/ YOU NIGGAZ IS CLOWNS"....YA'LL NO WHO HE WAS REFERRIN 2....THE SOUTH NIGGAZ
NYC STAND UP
Hmm i think i want to drop jewels on you niggas so you understand what ny bring to the table straight from da underground listening to "It Aint Hard To tell"
I spit thoughts off da head like bullets from a reuger// That real shit kicked straight to your medulla// Omblomgata no matter what NY still get they propers//Offer respect and thats what you recieve//I got love for my city is tatted under my sleeve//Believe these tactic with haptics// will have kids in the south wanting to hit backflips//We always had a crown so why would be after that shit// We never lossed it stay on some underboss shit//The Game remains our bitch until we divorce it// And that is never what you niggas call clever// Is what I call a failure to create musically// It aint hard to tell what the southern music do to me// Some of you get me hype but then you lost me//Just remember trying to claim king while one exist could end up to be costly//Biyah Biyah take them lyrical shots till you frosty//
NY WE LOVE YOU 1.
How can you say no one in the south isnt real hip hop...Little Brother???
Are ya serious on dis bullshy i mean dang hommies NY iz stll on top we could take
Jay to take out like 3 of ya biggest cats in da south
50cent and G-unit could take out all da groups in da south and some other people like flip, Jezzy, Mike Jones and dem fake niggas
Dipset could take out da rest of the south people like Disturbing da peace
Busta and Flippmo which now has Pappose could take out all dem other niggaz
and dat aint even da best cats in NY we still have niggaz like Nas, Jada who are still good so get it out of ya south bullet mines cuz NY iz better, harder in errthing dat deals with Hip Hop than all dem NY cats u dig
New York iz da black capital of U.S.A and we won't stop cuz we can't stop south iz jus hatting
I agree with all your points you made
but when you have niggas sayin tha south
aint shit & talkin down on tha whole south theres gone be problems especially
when you have a lot of these NY rap cats
bumpin they bitchmade gums about tha
south as far as im concerned keep tha
south out yo gadamn mouth you don't hear
of one MC down south talkin bad on NY or
eastcoast rap but you hear NY rappers
talkin bout tha south all day & night!!!
NY cats is to occupied with talkin shit
& thinkin bout tha next niggas instead
a makin dope music tha first thang on
most NY niggas minds is how can I make niggas think im gangsta or how can I dis
this nigga over here their aint no unity
in NY like in tha south aint no love in
NY thats why cats is broke followin tha
next mans lead thinkin bout who to diss
next & shit!!!!!
I wanna show love to Ghostfase for makin
an incredible album & bein original & yall niggas copp tha new Little Brother
DJ Drama tape.....1
THE WAY I SEE IT, RAS KASS, KURUPT, SLY BOOGY, THA ALKAHOLIKS, CROOKED I, THE GAME, DRE DOG, JAYO FELONY, DEL THE FUNKY HOMOSAPIEN,MITCHY SLICK,MACK 10,E-40,& XZIBIT AND A LOT OF OTHER WEST COAST CATS WILL PRETTY MUCH FUCK YALL UP BUT THE MEDIA NEVER GIVES US A CHANCE TOO OFTEN. I KNOW I SOUND BITTER AND HATEFUL BUT FUCK MAN WHY DONT YALL LIKE THE WEST? I AINT GIVING A SHIT ABOUT THE CASH FLOW WE PULLING IN BUT THE WEST IS THE BEST. I GOT MAD LOVE FOR NYC AND THE SOUTH (BY THE WAY DEVIN THE DUDE IS THE BEST IN THE SOUTH PERIOD) ANYWAYS, YALL NEED TO SQUASH THIS BLOG AND SMOKE MORE WEED AND BREATHE. ONE LOVE FUCK FACES.
NY means not you.
Have a Semen shot and shut the fuck up. You are the poster child of what NY niggas don't like to be characterized by.
Strong in that homo, the hate is.
I'm just gonna point some shit out from the perspective of some Older Hip-Hop cats.
I don't say my views are everyone elses, but I'll speak on what I see.
Wether you see it as hating or not, NY has some negative shit to say about everyone that tends to be hot at a given time.
It happend to the West, it happend to the Mid West, now it's the Souths turn to join in on the festivities. I'm not saying NY is full of haters but Your region is filling the mold of a hater intentionally or not.
I'm a Los Angeles nigga. I'm a neutral party in this argument. NY has always been there in the game with Lyrics no one can dispute that. That is NY's staple. Thank You NY for being that. I'm tired of you fucking untalented or non-contributive niggas (Some of the bithces on this blog)Talking about NY owns this shit. Or my favorite, that's not real hip-hop.
Put you hand down Timmy, your a fucking retard. First off, if you ain't in your mid 40's and apart of the original crews that did it first, you didn't make shit. Real hip-hop, most of you niggas don't want real hip-hop. KRS has been preaching that shit for years and he went double mahogany his last album.
It's funny how real hip hop had more than rap involved, now it's just rap. On that note, it was a DJ, a cut up, or sampled rock record or the simplest beat, and cats rapping about life. That's what every one is doing now. The only difference is can their life experience be implemented with yours. Can you relate to whoever the fuck is rapping? If so it's real hip-hop, because some one can. Candy Paint ain't got shit to do with me, but in the south that's what they do.
That's real Hip-Hop.
NY that Lyrical shit you talking is real Hip-Hop because my Big Apple niggas know what's up.
West Coast Niggas -That gang mentality is real Hip-Hop becasue we know what's up with them colors and set numbers.
Just people on the mic telling there stories. That's real Hip-Hop.
A good song claims no coast. My example of real Hip-Hop is Rappers Delight,everyone can relate on some level with that classic.
If you don't like something don't do it, listen to it, or look at it. I'm not saying NY is hater central but alot of you cats are making it seem that way.
I'll tolerate D4L and Dem Franchise boys. They keep some of the women moving so I can feel on the booty. Really my niggas how bad is that?
Dip-Set is garbage. G-Unit is tailor made for middle class white america. Ghostface who is cool, but only appeal to his following of select few with that 1998 style rapping (*See Bottom). The nigga has a few nice metaphors, but he can't rap worth a damn. What even happened to 16 bars? The nigga be on and off beat like it's his first song. You can lie and try to say that we don't care about lyrics. If that's the case, you niggas don't care about skills, because most of you can't rap.
What makes it fucked up is you got niggas who CAN rap, and don't get a fair chance. Papoose has potential, but let's see if it translates into a good album. What about AZ? Aziatic was a pretty good album, but got overshadowed by the "Interscope" Jackson and that BS. Jae Millz is a victim to the industry. Saigon. Shit even Remy Ma could have done better with a different label.
So You NY niggas can't talk, because you're in no better position than we are in. The next generation doesn't even get a chance, because these commercial garbage niggas get all the light. As a result, you still depending on Jay-Z, Nas, and the rest of the 40/40 Club (40 albums, 40 years old). At least we're trying to build a new generation with T.I., Chamillionaire, Lil Wayne, and Killer Mike. They may not be there yet, but all them niggas are 25 and under, and they're already in development.
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*** The difference between the NY and the south and west coasts is this: We understand that you have your artists that represent your local style and swagger, and we respect that. NY niggas shit on anyone that doesn't cater to their market.
the best things about the south are the fact that they are mostly independent and be making more scrilla than ny cats with a major deal and they stick together. Almost everyone in the south fucks with each other except for lil flip cuz everyone knows he sucks. Chamillionare the only one who likes him. I'm an east coast head and i know this shit. We had our time and we will have our time again someday,but for now let them southern cats rock it. To get the east back on we need redman, keith murray, hova, nas, saigon, cormega,dj premier, just blaze, and that one brotha who produced big's "warning". I forgot his name.
oh i forgot clipse. Them niggas is sick.
Can yall people get on your geography. The "east" never left.Know your geography please.Im so tired of schooling folks.Also, those of u bitching over coasts and regions.SHUT THE FUCK UP. No one cares what u have to say niggas. Especially niggas who aint up on somethin as simple as geography. All this shit DOES NOT MATTER and all these niggas bitching about blah blah blah, how about yall read before yall comment instead of talking out your ass through ya keyboards
and in case yall niggas dont know the facts of todays hip hop market, yall would know every "coast and region" yall all like to bitch and argue about so much would all make SO much more money coming together instead of being seperated like this is the early 1930's.Dumb asses.I aint ever read anything so dumb in this blog (a few intelligent people are excluded from the dumb ass niggas).
New York was always and will remain the cream of the crop.
Don't hate us...... love us... because like Diddy said and I quote "We ain't going never stop"
u know i think about it the realist rapper yall ever had no not biggie fat ass.PAC left said fuck yall and never came back thats when the west took over and fucked yall upside down now the south is runningt shit and the west still got the game realer than any bitch yall got fuck NY
Truth be told as Laffy Taffy is as "low IQ" of a music as it gets, its still part of what makes hip-hop, hip-hop. We just keep setting ourselves back and bickering over bullshit, when we can just buy what we like and turn the station or fast forward past what we don't like.
Instead of Hip-Hop just being one voice and attacking on all cyliders, its all east coast vs west coast vs down south vs mid west vs my block vs your crew vs his cousin bull shit. If it raps, it rhymes, makes you dance, think, move or relates to the culture in anyway; whether its the way her ass shakes, the reason we don't like bush, aids in the community or hustling and killing - it's hip-hop plain and simple. Quote unquote "real-hip hop" is the stupidest term i've ever heard. I know what yall mean but it's just another self imposed self inflicting label, just like coastal beef...which the media exploits and we feed into and limit the progression of the music.
When have you heard of East Coast rock, vs West coast rock. They got they beefs and petty bullshit all the same but it doesn't center and limit them like it does us and doesnt stop there money. There are like 80% more rock and pop artist yet instill Hip Hop tops these dudes out by a good percentage in sales and radio play. I go to white bars and they'll throw on TI and BBD in the middle of Bon Jovi and Creed (Rock Artist - for the culturally deprived). But we still as a whole don't make as much these cats or generate the money they do (partially cause of Negro spending habits)but mostly cause we are limited by pride, pettiness and bickering over bullshit.
Tell me what's hotter - D4L, the kid from 112, The Kids from the corner(not a real group)in concert
D4L, Franchize, Jeezy and TI in concert
or D4L, Jeezy, Busta, Game, Nelly, Snoop, Franchise, Dipset and TI in concert
the last one would be fucking bananas, even if you don't like half the artist u still get something u like, the artist get a crowd they wouldnt normally get and may turn a couple heads. Thats more money, more exposure and what Hip-Hop is about. Yeah it soundz like the Euphoric bullshit ass dream but on the real niggaz need to squash that and start talking about who should working together, getting paper together, building and stop letting the bullshit prevent hip-hop from being what it should be right now. It is what it is though.... niggaz need to get wit it other than that despite the glitz, girls and glamour "The Dark Ages of Hip-Hop" will continue - GAG ORDER - XO
In Hip-hop, the subject matter is hoes, clothes, cars, jewelerly, money, drugs, and selling crack. North, south, East, West, every rapper is rapping about the same thing. So why is it that New Yorkers say the south is killing hip-hop? You subject matter is the same shit. If ya’ll had better treets w/o all of those fucking potholes then you probably would ride w/ bigger rims lol. But what are we really arguing? Creativity is declining in all coast. But I still have hope, matter what is in style or sell records, eventually talent and creativity changes the game, so what’s up? I moved to Miami from New York when I was small and growing up, every guy that moved down from NY talked so much shit in school and got their asses beat down. Stop thinking you are better than everybody else. We all have the same struggle and let’s stick together and fight through it. It’s time for niggas to stop living in this fantasy thug world and get back to reality. You don’t have to be a thug to be hard. Like I say in every blog, NY niggas need to do more collabos with southern artist and try using southern beats and vice versa. I would love to hear Ghostface on a 3-6 mafia type of beat, just as I would love to hear TI on a RZA beat. Maybe if rappers from all coasts unite and combine their resources then hip-hop would be better. Scareface is a prime example, he has made some classic tracks with Jay-Z, Naw as well as damn near an artist from every coast. Da cds I make at home to listen to is always mixed with music from all coast. I may have a cd with some old Smif-n-Wesson and new TI on it. I don’t care what any of ya’ll say I like what I like, if you don’t like it then so be it. Why are we arguing about this shit. And by the way, sorry to bust your bubble, but NY niggas are not all that articulate “dun†ya’ll cats sound just as ignorant as many niggas down south. And if you all are truly the more educated black people, why do you rap about the same shit as niggas? If you all are that much more intelligent than southerners, why some many drug dealers or thugs in NY? Why are most of ya’ll still in da hood? Shouldn’t you be leading a black Renaissance and improve the black culture like Harlem in the 1960s? Don’t diss your southern roots when you are doing the same shit? A lot of black men are in the same sad mindstate where we live in this fantasy thug world. We need to get back into reality cuz we are destroying ourselves.
and guess what? shit I heard a paul wall joint with papoose on it and guess what? That shit was hot. I heard a chamillionaire joint with papoose and some other nigga named jae millz on it and guess what that shit was hot! I heard some shit with mack 10 and red cafe, and fat joe (minus fat joe) and that shit was hot! I heard lil wayne, juelz, and jeezy on that track (forgot what its called) and that shit was hot! Speaking of them they might do a collab album. My boy Lupe fucking with all types of niggas...make sure to check out the album. A lot of chicago niggas fuckin with texas niggas. Everybody should just get money together as black people and stop worrying about dumb shit thats not important and wont benefit us as a WHOLE.Only ignorant, dumb niggas argue about dumb shit like regions, coasts and states. Only dumb, ignorant, senseless motherfuckers diss a whole region, coast, state cuz of a few niggas. Wake the fuck up black people and stop sleeping dumb asses.
new york was shook and crying when the west had it. yall wasn't even playing the west shit in the 90's... ny is some haters when they aint got the crown... now the south got it they mad... now they copying the west coast gangbangers..lol... now they even bouncing in the club and that aint even ny style. they just start respecting the south a little bit and 10 years ago suge and pac made ny show some respect to the left coast. the problem point, blank,period, is that the east dont support their artist like the west and south. ny need to support their artist and they just might get rap back. don't get it twisted i fully respected ny and they always have bangin' talent but they are sore losers and they dont support their artist...
A couple posts up a nigga said Atlanta has know meaning globally. Are you fucking kidding me nigga Atlanta effects you somehow everyday. Nigga have you ever drunk a Coca-Cola product before, cuz that is based in Atlanta, Have you ever watched CNN, TBS or aby other Turner Broadcasting Channel cuz that's based in Atlanta, and have you ever got sick before, because the CDC( Center for Disease Control) where they do all experiments on drugs and cures is right here in da A. atlanta is huge as far as economic and has THE BUSIEST AIRPORT IN AMERICA, yes even busier than JFK do your research. So for NY 5 Bo