SOHH NYC

Imma huge jay fan I think he is top 5 , maybe even number 1, but mtv doesn't know wat they're doin where's outkast and slick rick and scarface or run dmc. I luv em and ll but they could go off the list. R.I.P. To Proof of D-12.

No Jay Z is not the greates of all time it seems that im the only one that remember that cassidy one of the greatest lyricist of all time beat jay z in a battle at the age of 16 Tupac was way! better than jay z will ever be

I heard Proof died when he saw the list...
ok IM SORRY, maybe a little to early.

jay z number 1 well although he is ill he is not number one im more than sure that someone who is just barely old enough to get a fif of hen piled this list up but then again who gives a fuck about what mtv thinks they get no respect from me especially when it comes to hip hop (R.I.P. PROOF) AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEND A VERY BIG FUCK YOU TO ALL THE SOUTH HATERS CRYIN ASS BITCHES I LOVE ALL MUSIC NORTH SOUTH EAST WEST SO IF YOU SAYIN FUCK THE SOUTH YOU SAYIN FUCK HIP HOP AND WHOEVER CROSSES THAT LINE WITH ME GETS NO RESPECT www.myspace.com/504fudge

Nas at number 5??? I dont know about all that..

I would of put 2Pac and number 1. The whole order in this list was wrong, with several MC's missing.

I can say one thing about MTV they sure dont discrimate aganist white people but they do discrimate aganist the south. How you gonna put eminem and not scarface. But, im not mad that list was just an east coast perspective. So much congrats to NY cant knock yall hustle. So heres my list:

1. Tupac
2. Scarface
3. Andre 3000
4. Nas
5. Rakim
6. Krs-One
7 Common
8. Ice Cube
9. Snoop Dogg
10. Juvenile

South stand up a bitch list from MTV cant hurt our spirits!

No Jay Z is not the greates of all time it seems that im the only one that remember that cassidy one of the greatest lyricist of all time beat jay z in a battle at the age of 16 Tupac was way! better than jay z will ever be

Posted by: Young Royal at April 11, 2006 10:44 AM
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Wow....
Hence the name YOUNG Royal...
No disrespect cuz if were all about lyricism Pac would not be on the list-I'm stating facts. But Pac is a great MC-he had all the other components to be considered great-he made classic records. But so did Jay...he really did lock down like 8 summers. He released great ALBUMS and i've seen Cassidy freestyle battle niggas in front of the Temple U cafeteria, he's nice but until he makes a CLASSIC album let alone 3 you should really never discuss great lyricism again.

I think at the end of the day if Jay were dead, he'd be #1 in a lot of niggas' eyes...Everyone on that list transcended just lyrics and beats, they were at least good in every other element it takes to make a great MC.

And we gotta get over the fact MTV took Yo! off the air...they fucked up TEN YEARS AGO(!) but hiring people like Sway brought back hip hop credibility and they have cats that work there that are respected by their peers (people that write and report for them, not Clue). Considering Rap City is still on the air, and they won't even show De La soul or Little Brother lets me know their credibility has left the building.

Here goes MTV trying to spark up regional rap beef in order to spice up their television programming. I guess no one is paying attention to Real World, Wild N Out, and the Yo Mamma show.

The list is non-applicable because the MTV gossip queens did not give us their criteria for judging the emcees.

Yet another example illustrating the oligarchy that exists within the music business.

How is Outkast NOT ON THE LIST? I remember MTV wearing out "Hey Ya" and "I Like the Way She Moves" videos.

RIP Proof...

Jay is good but NOT the greatest...

2pac, thus far, is the greatest...
KRS 1 is in a very close 2nd...

Well first of all, I think we have to define what we mean when we say the "Greatest MC".... are we talkin about lyrics? Are we talkin about the show? Are we talkin about longevity in the game? What exactly is being looked at here? Because I think depending on what we are talking about, this list could change a whole hell of a lot.

1.Tupac
2.Nas
3.Rakim
4.Juvenile (mans got 5 plat albums in a row)
5.DMX (his older shit is hot)

Holla at me, that my list, fuck a jay z, swagger jackin ass muhfucka. I cant wait for the Dips to smash his gayass agian, slap that kufi and them sandles off his joe camel ass body! www.myspace.com/thewerd

I am a huge jigga fan, but mtv doesn't know shit about real hip hop in my opinion. The only people you see on mtv representing hip-hop are the same people you hear on the radio. They are all over the south's dick. Don't get me wrong i like alot of the sounds comin' from the bottom of the map but where's everybody else?? B.I.G. was and still is the greatest mc hands down...jada ain't in the top 10????

Jay-Z may be great, but with everyone else on that list, he does not deserve to be number one. That's just doesn't make sense. It's frankly pretty damn ignorant.

How is Outkast NOT ON THE LIST? I remember MTV wearing out "Hey Ya" and "I Like the Way She Moves" videos.

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They decided not to do groups, but Dre is on the honorable mention list...why is it a regional beef MTV is sparking when all they show is down south videos...if you read the piece there are Southern, midwest and west coast Mcs who agree with who is up there.

These were people also voted by their peers not just some NY niggas. A beef is only sparked on ignorance and you are doing more to spark that shit than MTV, fam.

Personally, I don't think LL makes the top 10, but that's because he has not done a strong Record since Mr. Smith...

But as a person who listens to ALL HIP HOP, I can say you can make an argument for everyone on the list.

Remember when MTV did this list years back the fans voted and most of these people were not even in the top 10...please see the piece and holla back...damn!

I dont know Jay that nigga T.I got a couple lyrics for your ass.and the message is more clear and he's keepin it hood.You just got a head start.But shit I aint to bad myself.
Rasta Boi--cdbaby.com
American Idol Underground

Jay-Z got the most classic albums and largest amount of material that is hot. Reasonable Doubt, Volume 1, Volume 2, Blueprint, Black Album are all classic.

Alotta cats are gonna AUTOMATICALLY say Jay ain't number 1, but I'm a dude who believes Jay-Z would be number one IF HE WERE DEAD. If somebody came out rapping like Big Daddy Kane or Rakim RIGHT NOW, would cats claim they're the best, let alone listen to they album? No, cats would clown on 'em because rap has gotten BETTER since then. NOT the CONTENT, but the actual TALENT has improved drastically, from flow and delivery to wit and wordplay. Also, in the discussion of great MC's, he or she had to be able to dominate both on albums and in freestyle ability. This is why Jay should be crowned the best. The flow, the lyrical ability (which most sleep on nowadays), the great song making skills and the freestyle talent makes Jay the (arguably) most consistent and well-rounded MC ever. Im not saying he's the best in every category, but he is in the top 3-5 at least in every category. When you compare classics, Jay's stand up and compete at the highest level against every MC on that list and ever to come out.

no g rap. pac at # 2 ahead of nas biggie and rakim.. crazy.. i would put pac at like number 8 no diss but mc to me means lyrically skills.

Dont judge any artist on the list, if u havent heard a full album. if u've only heard a single and hate on the artist for that reason, u cant judge.

Juvie did not have 5 platinum albums...Only 400 degrees went platinum

And if you wanna base it on album sales Put Hammer on there-fuck it...

I like Juvie but his best album was 400 Degreez-how can you have him on the list when he's not even the best lyricist out of his old camp...

and Jadakiss should not be in the top 10 over anyone on that list.

EVERYONE ON THAT LIST HAS MADE AT LEAST TWO CLASSIC ALBUMS...

No Snoop! MTV is fraud. I guess they never played the hell out of the "Whats My Name", "Murder Was the Case", "Gin and Juice", and "Doggy Dogg World" videos.

No RUN DMC! Name a rapper who doesn't credit them as an influence. I MEAN IN THE WORLD!!!

This is pure comedy!

I'll take that back--Juve had 2 platinum and one multi joint...but he had ONE classic album.

AYE DAT LIST IS ALL BAD DIS IS WHAT ID DO

1. TUPAC //FO SHO EVERY ALBUM A CLASSIC
2. MAC DRE // COULDA TOOK OVA DA RAPGAME
3. BIGGY SMALLS// FAT MUTHA HAD FLOWS
4. JAY-Z// CANT KNOCK DA HUSTLE
5. SCARFACE// OLDSKOOL KAT
6. ICE CUBE// HESA BEAST
7. BROTHA LYNCH HUNG// MR RIPGUT
8. E-40// CHANGED THA GAME 4EVA
9. NAS// STILL SPITTIN HEAT
10.YUKMOUTH// FIRE SPITTA

How is Outkast NOT ON THE LIST? I remember MTV wearing out "Hey Ya" and "I Like the Way She Moves" videos.

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I SAID... They decided not to do groups, but Dre is on the honorable mention list...why is it a regional beef MTV is sparking when all they show is down south videos...if you read the piece there are Southern, midwest and west coast Mcs who agree with who is up there.

I would have replaced LL w/ Snoop personally, that's my opinion, but stop saying MTV--y'all act like it was Kurt Loder and paramount execs up in the room picking niggas out of a hat...MCs decided this too...be mad at your favorite rappers as well!

Jay is a good rapper, but will never be the greatest rapper 0f all time, there's no such thing no fuckin' way fuck mtv
60% of jay-z rhymes were stolen from B.I.G , now how can mtv claim he's the greatest of all time fuck that.

Dont judge any artist on the list, if u havent heard a full album. if u've only heard a single and hate on the artist for that reason, u cant judge.

Posted by: tayshaun at April 11, 2006 12:12 PM

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somebody with sense...some people have never heard or heard Amerikkka's Most Wanted or even "Raw" by Big Daddy Kane

wait where's the 50 cent stans--someone has to put him on their list somewhere, right?

hell no not numba 1 ur joking

Personally, I don't think LL makes the top 10, but that's because he has not done a strong Record since Mr. Smith...

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What! Watch your mouth. LL has done like 11 albums. You forget about Radio, Bigger and Deffer, Walking With a Panther Mr. Smith was not LL's best album.

This is why I said the list is non-applicable because there is no criteria. Peer approval could have been on of the judgement criterion. Other than that, this list is nothing more than some NY cat's state of mind. Oh wait, he/she works for MTV so I guess that makes it okay.

These or the best of my generation I never really listen to alot of them old cats like that so i cant judge them

1. 2PAC- Material, Talked about real shit and not just how much money he has

2.NAS-

3. Eminem- white or not the boy can spit with the best of them. "even killed Jay-z on his on S**T"

4.Jay-Z - biggies lyrics different person saying them....never new how much he bite him until i went back and listen to alot of B.I.G material.... but the boy can spit "BEST BIZZNESSMAN"

5.Snoop Dogg- Doesnt get enough respect has been holding it down for 10+ years and is still in the lime light"

6.Lil Wyane- He is on the rise might be at the top of this list one day

7. Jadakiss - why not?

8.T.I - Nice flow

9. Cassidy - the boy iz raw....forget somgs can listen to him accapela

10. B.I.G - not enought material but had the potential to be one of the best

Hell no jay-z should not be number 1 of that list i would order them

1.Tupac
2.big
3.nas
4.krs-one
5.rakim
6.big daddy kane
7.ice cube
8.eminem
9.ll cool j

Thats my personal list

also to ONE that comment you made about proof dying was uncalled for the man aint even buried yet you cracking on him already show a little class and respect you would want the same if it was someone in your family. Peace

R.I.P. Proof

ANOTHER SOLDIER LOST WHEN IS THIS SHIT GONNA END

MTV is sick dude.

Who gives them the authority to choose the ten greatest MCs period.
I remember back in the day when they didn't even play hip hop. This was supposed to be music television and they didn't play hip-hop? What's that shit about. They never played it until black people complained. But as far as the list is concerned LL Cool J should not be on it. They want Eminem to be on it, though dude is sick at times.
Tupac should definitely be number one. He spit the realest shit one ever wrote.
Cassidy's a close call, Wayne and T.I.
But like someone said it depends on how one is judging: sales, lyrics, popularity,or what? And shit the Game is still fresh, let him drop a couple of more albums like his last one and he definitely deserves honorable mentioning. I was never a big KRS-one,Cube or Big Daddy Kane fan. I liked a few joints from each but nothing serious, but that goes for most artist

I think that if Biggie had more time, he would definetely be the G.O.A.T. But being that Pac had more albums that were fire, he gets the crown. All of his shit meant something, not like some of these wack ass rappers. Jigga definetely held his, but i dont think that he is the best. definetely top 5 though. Although Em makes a lot of silly records, his shit is hot too. As far as lyrics, Em could contend with the best. So hear is my top 10:

1 Pac
2 Biggie
3 Jay z
4 Rakim
5 Nas
6 Eminem
7 Big L
8 KRS One
9 Outkast
10 Dre
10

I think that if Biggie had more time, he would definetely be the G.O.A.T. But being that Pac had more albums that were fire, he gets the crown. All of his shit meant something, not like some of these wack ass rappers. Jigga definetely held his, but i dont think that he is the best. definetely top 5 though. Although Em makes a lot of silly records, his shit is hot too. As far as lyrics, Em could contend with the best. So hear is my top 10:

1 Pac
2 Biggie
3 Jay z
4 Rakim
5 Nas
6 Eminem
7 Big L
8 KRS One
9 Outkast
10 Dre

RIP Proof

Jay-Z is number one fuck what yall talking he is the greatest ever and yall people know and some of yall don't know hip hop at all.

in order for a rap to be one of the greatest they must 1st be able to do this things.
1. make their own orignal materials.
2. great concept to their songs
3. spit fire verses
4. rap to any beat
5. know how to ride any beat
6. and do all these things repeatly.

and here's my list
1. tupac (dear mama; lords knows;
myunborn child; etc)
2. biggie ( mo money mo problems;
one mo chance;
3. playa fly (ghettoeyes,just gettin on

4. jay-z (u must of love me;moment of carity
5.eminem ( all his materials)

1. 50 CENT
2. BANKS
3. YOUNG BUCK
4. YAYO
5. MOBB DEEP
6. MOP
7. SPIDER LOC
8. MURDA MASE

THATS ALL YALL NEED THOSE ARE THEE BEST RAPPERS ALIVE FOREVER

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Personally, I don't think LL makes the top 10, but that's because he has not done a strong Record since Mr. Smith...

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What! Watch your mouth. LL has done like 11 albums. You forget about Radio, Bigger and Deffer, Walking With a Panther Mr. Smith was not LL's best album.

This is why I said the list is non-applicable because there is no criteria. Peer approval could have been on of the judgement criterion. Other than that, this list is nothing more than some NY cat's state of mind. Oh wait, he/she works for MTV so I guess that makes it okay.

Posted by: Da_Watcher at April 11, 2006 12:30 PM

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You're right, that was me being a Snoop fan. But I also said you can make an argument for all of those in the top 10 to be there. I'm trying to say that it can't be too biased.

I mean damn the criteria is pretty basic-it has to be, because there would be no top 10-there would be no list it would be the 1 1A 1B 1C 1D instead.

Like I said to the other cats, I respect their lists because that's their opinion, but as a fan of HIP HOP, I can't argue with who is on their list. So you mean to tell me you'll take some people off?

I might not even agree with the order but I can see how it got there.

I'm not saying MTV does not know hip hop fully but name a TV media outlet that actually does fully know...

EXAAACTLY...

say BET and the computer will blow up as you type that shit.

Did you actually read the MTV piece?

LET ME FIX THE LIST FOR YOU NIGGAS:

1.BIGGIE
2.NAS
3.JAY-Z
4.TUPAC
5.RAKIM
6.EMINEM
7.BIG DADDY KANE
8.ICE CUBE
9.JADAKISS
10.SIEGEL/T.I.

JAY Z as the greatest MC EVER! fuck that shit..his rhymes are lazy and his sales have been subpar...The Black Album only sold 3 million in the U.S obviously the 10 million ppl living NYC dont give damn about this nigga....Eminem sells more than that in the first week

MTV doesn't have a say so because hip has been out more than twice as long as they've been playing it. When BET comes out with greatest MC's then that will be a more credible debate.
Props To:
Snoop
Cassidy (Hope my nigga beats the case)
Wayne
TI
Mos Def
Outkast
Jadakiss
jeezy

In my opinion, that's a VERY good arguement about HOVA being the greastest rapper! He took this hip hop sh*t to the next level. He IS THE BIGGEST NAME IN HIP HOP RIGHT NOW! (business wise and artist wise) So, on the real, it's a real good arguement! Now with out Kane, there probably would not be a Jay-Z but that's like saying with out Dr. J, there would not be an Michael Jordan! So, on the real, I really hate these list of "greastest rapper of all time" but Jay-Z is definatly on that list, no question!

SHAKEEMS TOP 10:
1.50 CENT
2.TONY YAYO
3.VANILLA ICE
4.YOUNG MC
5.LIL'ROMEO
6.KHIA
7.MC BRAINS
8.ANOTHER BAD CREATION
9.KEVIN FEDERLINE
10.JIM JONES

R.I.P PROOF FROM D12!!! JUST ANOTHER SENSELESS MURDER FOR HIP HOP! WHEN IS THIS SHIT GOING TO STOP? KEEP YA HEAD UP EM!

eminem did not kill jay-z on renagade, i thought so too, but em's verses just sound better. he flowed on top of the beat, and jay's verse is actually better, i heard eminem was in an invterview saying the way jay spit his second verse with his change ups and crap was crazyy.

jay did steal alot of lines from big, but even so his best lines are still his own, so we cant knock him for that.

jay cant be number one now, if he dies, or stays out of the game long enough he will.

LET ME FIX THE LIST FOR YOU NIGGAS:

1.BIGGIE
2.NAS
3.JAY-Z
4.TUPAC
5.RAKIM
6.EMINEM
7.BIG DADDY KANE
8.ICE CUBE
9.JADAKISS
10.SIEGEL/T.I.

Posted by: IJUSTKEEPONHUSTLIN' at April 11, 2006 12:42 PM

PLEASE EXCUSE THIS GUY HE'S HIGH OFF CRACK
Nas and Jay Z before Tupac?
And as we all know Jay Z bit biggie so hard that mofo is still feelin it.

jayz is the greatest of all times!!!!!! first of all in order to crowned g.o.a.t one of the biggest things is longevity! wich pac and big do not have, wich by the way is unfortunate!jay has put out classics!to give u an idea of how good this guys is, for any other rapper "ether" would have been the end but this nigga got even stronger! if u wanna make a comparison how bout u try this! if lebron was on type of his game for 8 years in the nba and one day had a freakish injury, god forbid, would he go down as the greatest ever, hell no because he was not around long enough!

SHAKEEMS TOP 10:
1.50 CENT
2.TONY YAYO
3.VANILLA ICE
4.YOUNG MC
5.LIL'ROMEO
6.KHIA
7.MC BRAINS
8.ANOTHER BAD CREATION
9.KEVIN FEDERLINE
10.JIM JONES

Posted by: IJUSTKEEPONHUSTLIN' at April 11, 2006 12:46 PM

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LOL!!!!!!!!!

Where's Hammer?
And how can you forget about Pras?

1.Dylan
2.Dylan
3.Dylan
4.Dylan
5.Dylan
...what can I say, he spits hot fire

ASTON: GO BACK TO SNORTIN BLOW YOU DICK SUCKIN FAGGOT.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN HOVA ONLY SOLD 3 MILLION? AND SINCE WHEN HAS EMINEM SOLD 3 MILLION ALBUMS IN ONE WEEK? YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE WHITE WANNA BES THAT PURCHASE EMINEMS ALBUMS. Y'ALL ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO BUY THAT SHIT. MY BAND? PLEASE STAND UP? NIGGAS DON'T BUY THAT SHIT. DONT YOU EVER COME TO MY HOOD OR THEY'LL FIND YOU SEPERATED BITCH.

jayz is the greatest of all times!!!!!! first of all in order to crowned g.o.a.t one of the biggest things is longevity! wich pac and big do not have, wich by the way is unfortunate!jay has put out classics!to give u an idea of how good this guys is, for any other rapper "ether" would have been the end but this nigga got even stronger! if u wanna make a comparison how bout u try this! if lebron was on top of his game for 8 years in the nba and one day had a freakish injury, god forbid, would he go down as the greatest ever, hell no because he was not around long enough

I dont' think Jay is Top Here is my list
fuck MTV they don't know hip hop.

1. Pac> he is on Another level.
2. Nas> he is Fiya and still spittin!
3. Big> Could be #1 but didn't have enough albums ***sigh***
4. JadaKiss> so underated punchlines are sick!!!
5. Jay-Z> He made it to pres of def jam Respect is due.
6. Ice Cube. NWA, Death Certificate,Lethal Injection.ENough said
7. KRS-ONE>ioneer pushes lyrics to another level.
8. LL Cool J> Also Pioneer hits like Radio, Mamma Said Knock you out. And Jack the Ripper.
9. Rakim> 18th letter..... IF you don't know you shouldn't be posting here.
10.Scarface> Mad Love to that south Uncle Face holding it down!!!

My Reasons.. Lyrics, Message,hot albums longevity,ability to stay relevant. Each Artist posesses one or more of these qualities.
Honorable Mention is Em. He gets propz cause he gotta be more creative and can't say nigga every other line.

VA STAND UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok it is no way Hov can have the top spot when he put pac,big,and nas names in all his rhymes. Rakim is easily #3. Personally a case can be put out for Dre, snoop, and others, but not for Juvenile. I have respect for the south, and if you mention anyone it should be Scarface. Juvenile... get the fuck outta here Son!

1. Biggie
2. Tupac
3. Rakim
4. Big Daddy Kane
5. Nas
6. Jay-Z
7. Snopp Dogg
8. K.R.S. one
9. Slick Rick
10. Eminem

A-TOWN PIMPIN: YOUR MOMMA WAS SMOKIN GLASS WHEN SHE HAD YOU. PAC OVER BIG AND NAS? YOU SUCK THAT GLASS DICK TOO.

You know i gotta put in on it:

1) Pac (quality&quantity)
2) Rakim (The God)
3) Nas
4) Jay-Z
5) Biggie
6) Redman (Jay, can I get my album?)
7) Guru
8) IceCube
9) Snoop
10)Mos Def

honorable mention goes to Scarface, Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane, Lil' Wayne, T.I. and Bussa Buss

I can't take Eminem serious when he makes shit like Batman, My name is Slim Shady, and all that other bullshit. White people just buy the hell out of his album. But the way he spits on a beat is nice. Definitely an honorabl mention.

PLEASE EXCUSE THIS GUY HE'S HIGH OFF CRACK
Nas and Jay Z before Tupac?
And as we all know Jay Z bit biggie so hard that mofo is still feelin it.

Posted by: A-town Pimpin at April 11, 2006 12:50 PM

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Some of your favorite rappers bite BIG every day and he has so much material, his catalog still is better than most niggas shit...Cam talks all that shit but that nigga bites like Mike Tyson did Holyfield--listen to that nigga's catalog--every rapper bites...Shit, hip hop is a music that bites off of past shit anyway--stop using that as an argument-that shit gets stale homie.

Give that dude his props...he might not be #1 yet but he's pretty damn close...

You people getting influence confused with being a great MC...Pac was by far the most INFLUENTIAL rapper of all time...If this was top 10 most influential rappers he would be #1, or who can put out the most albums after they die...But this aint...it's best MC. Pac could write songs but Lyrically Pac was at best, a little above average...No where close to the best...If Jay aint the best,he's damn close..in every catagory of MCing Jay lands in altleast the top 5...I still say BIG though...And Scarface should have made the top 10 and eventually Jada if he learns to write a party song.

jada should be no where near that list this mothafucker is only punchlines if we go by that then banks, fabolous should be on that list!!!! and they both write better songs then jada! garbage ass dude!

It's one commone mistake you all are making (AS USUAL):

YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS FROM A NEW YORK STANDPOINT AGAIN!!!

There are 49 other states, and numerous other countries that listen to rap, and neither Nas or Big has the same following OUTSIDE of New York that Jay-Z does.

Nas is emmensely talented, but his career has been hot and cold, you can't deny it. It lacks consistancy. Big, aside from not being popular down south, only has 2 albums living. You CAN NOT make the G.O.A.T after 2 albums people, it's not fair to everyone else in the game who's showed consistancy and longevity.

The only arguement you can make is Pac, because he's probably the most influential in decades. But so many rappers are biting and riding Jay's dick now, he'll be up there in a minute.

Get Real

god dam it took somebody that long to even mention big L! i think the only way you can justify jay at number one is the fact that dude has really never fallen off and consistently been better than his competition (except nas) and always been solid (understatement) through his whole career..really you cant say who the best emcee is theres so many things that make up a good rapper, you could make arguments to put so many dudes on that list - supernat, kweli, mos, com, the list goes on

and if cube is on that list you better throw in angry before his name, yall know hes nicer when hes pissed off

and seein cassidy put in the same sentence as pac makes me sick..cassidy is nice but top 10 ever yo i donno bout that

what about busta! what about common! public enemy! m-1! ghostface! inspectah deck! gza!

List is pretty good, except I would scratch Eminem for Slick Rick. When talking about Great MCs, lyrics and influence plays a part. Eminem has lyrics, but no one tries to sound like him. As for the order, it is hard to find two people who agree on the top ten artist and what order they should be in. I'd say it is good enough to be named in the top 10.

Posted by: IJUSTKEEPONHUSTLIN' at April 11, 2006 12:55 PM

Fuck out of here. You damn right Pac over big and Nas. The quality of his albums along with his longevity put him there BITCH!!!

AND THE SAME DAMN GLASS DICK MY MOTHERS SUCKING, YOUR DADDYS FUCKING. CUZ THE HEROINE NEEDLE YOUR MOTHER USES IS BIGGER THAN YOUR FATHERS DICK MOFO!!!!

1. 2pac
2. Big Pun
3. Redman
4. Andre 3000
5. Ghostface Killah
6. Scarface
7. Ice Cube
8. Jay-z
9. Nas
10.Rakim/Biggie/Big L

Big, aside from not being popular down south, only has 2 albums living. You CAN NOT make the G.O.A.T after 2 albums people, it's not fair to everyone else in the game who's showed consistancy and longevity.
Posted by: RapIsDead at April 11, 2006 01:03 PM

thank you. That is my argument when it comes to BIG; not enough material. Plus, he wasn't really that hot in concert. I might have to move Jay up a couple notches though. I just thought about how that nigga had me cryin like a bitch 3 years ago at Hi-Fi Ampitheatre when he did "Ain't No Love"

It aint all that serious....its just a list calm down everyone.

A few more points for you fools:

1) The Black Album sold 3 mil without most people even knowing it was out. I'm a Jay-Z fan, and I didn't even know until they said it on the radio the day of. It had minimal promotion, and it came out on a friday. And the shit STILL sold 3 mil without dissing anyone in a time where hip-hop is stuck in beef and record sales are hard to come by.

2) I'm sorry Eminem has talent out the ass, but lacks focus and content. He has tight songs, but half of his material is hate music. He wasted half is career mad at his mom, his girlfriend, mad at middle class America, hating fags, and making fun of pop bands. He sales a lot because he makes music rebellious teenage white boys want to hear.

3) LL Cool J ??? Niggas you can't be serous. That inconsistant nigga. I remember when he made 14 shots to the dome - it flopped. Then he came out with the love songs shit. The album after that one I think flopped again. He flops from good and bad so much the nigga might as well try out for gymnastics. He's the NY version of Master P (the rapper not the CEO). Now he just tries to sell albums by showing off his stomach.

Big, aside from not being popular down south, only has 2 albums living. You CAN NOT make the G.O.A.T after 2 albums people, it's not fair to everyone else in the game who's showed consistancy and longevity.
Posted by: RapIsDead at April 11, 2006 01:03 PM

thank you. That is my argument when it comes to BIG; not enough material. Plus, he wasn't really that hot in concert. I might have to move Jay up a couple notches though. I just thought about how that nigga had me cryin like a bitch 3 years ago at Hi-Fi Ampitheatre when he did "Ain't No Love"

Damn, I pressed the wrong button

Kiss aint all punch lines clown...Did you even listen to either one of his albums??? saying that dumb shit you couldn't have...Kiss is a great rapper..period! not just punchlines...he's an all around rapper...He just aint mastered the party song yet...once he does he'll make the list...

LL top 10??? "Pink cookies in a plastic bag getting crushed by a building" What the fuck???????

NAJ

Don't get me wrong I give big props to Jay Z, dude is a lyrical genius He's just not number one. For him to be in the game so long he loses points for biting someone who only really dropped two albums

Please don't forget here...that we are talking about lyrists and not just some hip hop rapper and record sales. Sit down and listen to Biggie's flow, Nas's flow, Rakim's flow and not just some stupid rhymes out on the street. Rhyming doesn't come from the street. It's what you feel when you touch the pen and paper. Jay Z is good and deserve to be in the top five, but come on number 1. He never dropped any knowledge in the game. If you take the beats away from all of these rappers then what will you have...garbage. Sit down and listen to the flows whether you hatem or lovem. You will then see who is the best. Nas of course.....

LL has been around forever so he's gotta be on there somewhere, Black Friday. He's definatly got the hits and the sells. Now I do agree that he's no lyrical heavyweight BUT longevity has to count for something in an genre where Ja Rule (who?) couldn't be stopped 3 years ago.....

Give MTV any kind of credibility is a waste of time. If they could they would put Em as number one, but it would be too much controversy. Jay can never be number one cuz he got the triple R flows. Reduce, Reuse, and Recycle BIG shit.

this topic will never have a final answer. why ? because everyone's favorite mc's are different. Also, niggas wont big and pac die. look at it this way. Niggas wont let m.j. die, eventhough kobe is on a pace to destroy m.j.'s scoring records. ITS A FACT PEOPLE, nothing wrong with remembering your favorite mc's or holding them as your "personal best", overall because this or that song touches you. but be real there is no best M.C. i mean for one rakim and krs-one are lyricists not m.c.'s and remember what m.c. stands for, master of ceremony, or mic controller, if u know what i mean. so the term m.c. applies to party artists like big daddy kane, like grandmaster kaz, cats like that so the term m.c. has been misused like the tearm diva, i mean britney a diva ? anyways there is no greatest m.c. if u look at rap as a whole entity. look at all the different sub-genres enveloped in the category rap. u have gangsta rap, u have back-packer rap, u have b-boy/ breaking rap, u have club rappers like nelly, u have snap music, like d4l, crunk, g-funk. its endless in terms of who u like and what type of rap u prefer, i mean i listen to chino xl, and that posen pen album lyrically can not be touched by anything currently recorded. but i mean thats my opinion u know just like mtv thinks nas is number 5. to hiphop people its a travesty to rap and gangsta rap peoples its alright. so i mean hell we will never have a greatest number one list ever and will die trying to construct one. i mean dayum i used to think redman was in the top five until he hooked up with meth and released a couple mediocre albums.

A WHITE RAPPER COULD NEVER BE CONSIDERED AS THE GREATEST EMCEE EVER, PERIOD. I don't care who they are or where they grew up. Fuck it, the moment that shit happens I'm done with hip-hop.

Jay Z- if you are reading this you know in your heart that you are not the best lyrists. Biggie, Nas, Rakim, KRS, 2Pac come before you. You are definitley in the top 5 dead or alive. These guys can spit bars hands down. I do like to give prompts to you on your ownerships. I am very proud of you and I hope you will come out with another album. I have all of your latest albums. Keep teaching my brothers about ownership because they can't be 50 years old rappers. Well they can, but I won't buy.

Longevity yes...Consistency No...You can't make the top 10 by just sitting around the longest...Every album he's dropped in the last 10-12 years has been average at best...some below average...If you're in the top 10, you should have been running hip hop at some point in your career(i.e. Jay, Big, Pac, Nas, Rakim,Snoop)When did L ever shine over any of these niggas...never..he's just always been somewhere in the background...That don't make you the greatest MC...maybe the greatest survivor...and only women buy his records so sales don't count.

i mean dayum i used to think redman was in the top five until he hooked up with meth and released a couple mediocre albums.

Posted by: ascap_iz_a_must at April 11, 2006 01:23 PM

"cocaine is a powerful drug"
-Rick James

RAJ

You need to up ya hiphop education

Juvenile has 5 platinum albums:
Solja Rags
400 Degreez
G-Code
Project English
Juve The Great

All went platinum, you have just been kufi slapped!

Anywho, Jay is nowhere near number 1, and prolly aint even top 5 in my expert opinion

ive been listening to rap since the late 80"s and i think when it comes to best mc you have to go by influence to the culture.
1. PAC (Carried the whole world on his shoulders
2. Jay Z (Changed the game after Death Row Records
3. Ice Cube(Mr.Gangta Rap
4. Rakim ( Started it all
5. Snoop (Makes good Diss Records check ya history
6. Biggie (Wasnt in the game long enough, but great story teller
7. Eminem (Started a new movement, can battle any of them (Produce also)
8. 50 Cent (Hate him or love him the dog is on top (He does it all
9. Young Jeezy ( Is the Lebron James of rap the truth
10.Outkast ( There albums speak for them selves
An the person that makes them all Dr.Dre without him the is no rap.
Second team D.O.C, Nas, Kurupt, Sacface, E40,DJ Quik, T.I. Lil Wayne, Siegel, Sick Rick

Point taken, Black Friday. I hate to show my age here but when KRS-1 and Rakim where still underground artists LL was considered the best solo Emcee. Not "Walking with a Panther" but "Radio" LL. that's why there was the battle between him & Shan. let's not forget how he crushed Kool Mo Dee either....Damn I feel old writin that

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU MECCADON.

By what definition is one considered a "lyricist"? Lyricist has become one of those words that get OVER USED to much that it loses meaning. Listen to your music people. At lot of times people are being considered a lyricist and they're purposely trying to be "deep". They're forcing it and you can tell.

Nas has spit some real fire in his career, and I ain't even a Nas fan. However, there have been more occasions than I can count where the nigga was spitting total bullshit, and it was obvious that he was trying to sound deep. Hell look as Talib Kweli's last album. It was okay, but wasn't anything that deep about it. It was just non-aggresive music from a respectful black man.

There is an old saying that me and my friends have: if an artist was so deep, you wouldn't like him, because most people wouldn't get it. Niggas buy music that makes them feel smart, and makes them feel like a "True Hip-Hop Head". Most of the time you niggas can't even recite a deep verse, and break it down to its deepest meaning.

Get Real

a punchline rapper or mixtape rappers should not ne here, just like a dunkin specialist wont be the best nba player.
you need to be able to make rap music not rap tracks.
i think prodiy should be there if you guys are goin to mention dudes like jada

Yo Yall niggas forgot about big L, dude is top 3 however u look at it lyricaly, papoose will soon make that list 2

I agree with dude:

Dylan
Dylan
Dylan....etc

NAJ

Don't get me wrong I give big props to Jay Z, dude is a lyrical genius He's just not number one. For him to be in the game so long he loses points for biting someone who only really dropped two albums

Posted by: A-town pimpin at April 11, 2006 01:13 PM

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I hear you fam, but listening to his work, I can't always say he's biting all the time. These niggas went to high school together for a minute, were brooklyn street hustlers, some of that shit will overlap.

I think even without Big's lines, he is still top 10.

As far as biting goes-I'll take it to another level-we all know Jay does bite shit here and there but when you do that shit RIGHT people will remember what YOU SAID INSTEAD OF THE ORIGINAL...like certain beats that come out you might know who did Juicy Fruit (Mtume) but when it comes on who does not start reciting the hook from "Juicy?"

Niggas bite all the time is my point-I just feel that because Jay is such a big name now, he gets more scrutiny for it.

Oh and other bloggers....

And for the last time--we shit on MTV, but are there any other TV/media outlets like that to even have the pull to get prominent rappers to comment on their greatest rapper is?--exactly...

I'm trying to design my own hip hop media outlet-if you feel that strongly about MTV being the way it is than you should too...always complaining but have no solutions...

Everyone talking about Jay Won that shit with him and Nas is out of their damn mind....And Jay as number one is the most dumb shit ever......

When that shit happened it was skills against skills - And Nas put that nigga in his place....Yeah Jay a business man with dough (Cant take that from him) but that nigga skills was put to sleep when made a Cat from queens made him remember how this HIP HOP shit really started......

Even with Angie naming the show the take over - NY know whats real and whats not.....

Jay Lost ( PUT TO SLEEP )

AH HELL NO!!!! ALL THE OTHER MC'S UNDER HIM HE BIT FROM. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY!!! I'M OUT.

Heres my list for the GREATEST of all time!!
1. M.C. Hammer
2. Vanilla Ice
3. Nelly
4. Puff Daddy
5. D4L/dem franchise boys (tie)

BIG L IS THE SICKEST NIGGA WHOEVER DID IT.

Niggaz REALLY need to stop sleepin on Uncle L.

Seriously.

The top 3 comes down to (in no order)

Rakim - the voice

KRS - the teacha

Tupac - the revolutionary

Artists that spit that REAL TALK.
Artists that spoke on black empowerment.
Artists that spoke on the empowerment of the poor.

And no Slick Rick?

Eminem ahead of Method??????

I don't fuckin think so.

Biggie....The best ever....on his own level.....then the others......they're all below biggie....doesn't matter who's 2-10......how does no one think biggie is the sickest ..... ask any real musician to listen to biggie spit.....they'll tell u no one has better flow and understanding of music......no one's more witty and smart either.........not even close...

50 cent should be on the very top of that list stop hating
bloodmoney comes out may 2nd cop that

Great List, Finally I See Cube And Big Daddy Cane On A Top Ten Greatest List. And That Rakim Was A Good Look Too. Jay Is The Muthafuckin Greatest.

GO LISTEN TO LIFESTYLES OF THE POOR AND DANGEROUS, L'S FIRST ALBUM. YOU'LL HERE JAY-Z SPITTIN FAST RAW SHIT, THE VERY NEXT YEAR HE COMES OUT SPITTIN COMPLEX PUNCHLINES...LIKE L SAID "...HOW COME/YOU CAN LISTEN TO MY FIRST ALBUM/AND FIGURE OUT WHERE A LOT OF NIGGAS/GOT THEY WHOLE STYLE FROM (IT INCLUDED GUEST APPEARANCES FROM CAM MCGRUF AND OTHERS)

MTV has no crediblity when it comes to hip-hop. They only play whats hot and not anything else thats out there.

As far as that list goes you can't really ever have a list like that because all rap music is not the same. Where as though you have Tupac and LL who are good rappers there are not good lyricist where as though Talib and Mos Def are good lyricist and not good rappers.

Also as good as Jadakiss and Cassidy they have not released classic albums where as though Juve and Ice Cube have but not are nearly as good.

So here are at least 2 list that you should have in those categories.

Best Lyricist
1.Rakim
2.KRS-1
3.Nas
4.B.I.G
5.Jay-Z
6.Big Daddy Kane
7.Eminem
8.Big Punisher
9.Kool G Rap
10.Snoop Dogg

Honorable Mention: Raekwon,Jadakiss and Prodigy of Mobb Deep

Best Rappers
1.Tupac
2.LL Cool J
3.Jay-Z
4.Snoop Dogg
5.Ice Cube
6.Nas
7.DMX
8.Scarface
9.Busta Rymes
10.50 Cent

Honorable Mention:Ludacris and Cam'ron

Best Rap Group
1.NWA
2.Wu-Tang Clan
3.Outcast
4.RUN DMC
5.Public Enemy
6.Mobb Depp
7.Gehtto Boys
8.Salt-n-Peppa
9.Onyx
10.(fill in the blank)

Best female rappers
1.MC Lyte
2.Queen Latifah
3.EVE
4.Lil Kim
5.Foxy Brown

Honorable Mention: Da Brat(who should be on that list) and Trina

Best Hip-Hop Song
1.Aint nothing but a "G" thang (Dre & Snoop)
2.Scenario (Leaders of the new school and tribe)
3.Bring the Noise (Public Enemy)
4.It takes two (MC Rob Base& DJ EZ Rock)
5.C.R.E.A.M (Wu-tang)
6.Hard Knock Life (Jay-Z)
7.Back that thing Up(Juve)
8.In da Club 50 Cent
9.Walk this way (Run DMC)
10.Fight the Power (Public Enemy)

Honorable Mention:Fuck the Police-NWA

Best Rap Album
1.Illmatic-Nas
2.Reasonable Doubt-Jay-z
3.All Eyes on Me-Tupac
4.36 Chambers-Wu-Tang Clan
5.Ready to Die-Notorius B.I.G
6.Straight outta Comptom-N.W.A
7.DoggyStyle-Snoop Dogg
8.Paid in Full-Eric B. & Rakim
9.Stankonia-Outcast
10.Radio-LL Cool J

No Chuck D???? He's the only rapper in the game who's style has never been cloned, Chuck has ridiculous flows, please check that welcome to the terrordome CHUCK IS SPITTING!!! By the time I get to Arizona, CHUCK IS spitting, Can't trust it CHUCK IS Spitting!!!!!! WTF Rakim is father Nas, Kane is Jay's father, Chuck is the ODB of this whole sh*t , there is no father to his style, and no son, otherwise known as the aplha and omega, no before none to come..

Jay-Z Suckz ass,R.I.P. Proof

The Greatest M.C. Iz Tupac or Biggie,

Jay-Z Sucks, 50 Cent & Yayo can take his lil' ass on. 50 iz Better than Jay-Z in rap and in clothing Line!
GGGGGGG-UNIT

HOW CAN YOU NOT BE CONSIDERED THE BEST WHEN YOU STAY ON TOP FOR SO LONG, IN AN INDUSTRY THAT CHANGES DAILY. JAY-Z HAS TO BE #1.ICE CUBE ISNT IN THE TOP 10 AT ALL.

NO DISREPECT BUT NAS IS ABOVE BIGGIE ONLY B/C BIGGIE WASNT AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO PUT IN MORE WORK.

AND HATE IT OR LONG IT, YOU GOTTA THROW LL IN THE TOP 10.

1.JAY-Z
2.TUPAC
3.RAKIM
4.KRS ONE
5.NAS
6.BIGGIE
7.BIG DADDY KANE
8.BLACKTHOUGHT (ROOTS)
9.EM
10.LL COOOOOL J

1.First of all Jay-z Can't rap.He freestyles everything off of his head , To a TRUE HIPHOP fan , One will argue that he made it because of his Beatz.

2.He can be tied back to Pac's shooting ,Out of his own Words.Listen closely to the track with him n Biggie on Life After Death.

3.Listen to Renegade ,with Em' Dude can not rap. WHEN HAVE YOU EVER HEARD JAY-z WIN A FREESTYLE RAP BATTLE---NEVER

4.HE HAS THE SALES HE HAS BECAUSE OF Lil kids that swallow his bull and females.

5.IM A TRUE LYRICIST , IF YOU THINK JayZ is an ILL RAPPER , THEN YOU ALSO THINK CAM n Jimmy is real LYRICIST.
Cam reminds me of Dude on LAFFY TAFFY just making up sht n mumbling on raps.

6.HOW DARE HE TOUCH Bonnie n CLYDE ...nonono

7.I CAN GO ON ON ON

HOW IN THE HELL COULD I FORGET CHUCK D.
REBEL YOU HAVE A GOOD POINT.

A TOWN PIMPIN: BIG AND NAS WOULD LYRICALLY CHEW PAC. THE ONLY HOES YOU PIMP IS THE GLASS ONES NIGGA

G-UNIT!

Jay-Z & NaS Suck Ass!!!!!!

B.I.G. & 2PAC 4LIFE!!!!!!!!

TOp 5

Yayo
50
Papoose
Busta
Tech n9ne

1. Pac
2. Biggie
3. Jay-z
4. Rakim
5. Nas
6. Big pun
7. Big l
8. Ice cube
9. Ll cool j
10. Snoop dogg

That's my list right there opinions are like assholes everyone has one there's mine, I'm a huge jay fan but he isn't number one, he deserves to be top 3 status tho, everyone says he bites biggies lyrics and what not, but shit who doesn't big was a great lyricst, and u gotta really listen to jays album's dude got classic material you can't front on that

Meccadon,
I hear you homie...but that was like 1985! It's 2006 and he aint been a dominant force in hip hop since...He even tried to be a ganster for an album...He would still be spitting like that if anybody believed him...but nobody did so he went back to talking to the chicks....Everybody else in the top 10 goes from street shit, to party shit, the chick shit to some real life world shit effortlessly...That's why I say BIG is the best..I don't care how many albums he put out...he could switch between the flows and was believable...even about how many bitches he got and you know what the nigga looked like....That's MCing homie

Hip hop needs to get the fuck off this blog. mofo this ain't your countdown on bet.

And Where's Ghost....

And Where's Ghost....

First...

Ether was wack. Take over ruined Nas and Mobb Deep's careers.

Second...

Hov is that dude. Nobody can do what he did/does album after album. Summer after summer. Hit after hit.

i love listening to g-unit, shakeem if your not on the payroll somethingh just aint right.
the one reason i can say is that you say shit to get these guys riled up and tight.

Hell I done been to jail I ain't scared
Mama checkin in my bedroom I ain't there
I gotta head head with no screws in it
What can I do with life to live,
but I got nothing to lose,
2pac

Fuck out here - the gay camel knew he didnt really want that shit....

Jay was put to sleep plain and simple - He need to watch he talk that shit too...

Niggas do that hiphop shit for real....Nigga got made and came back with some half ass free style talking about Nas's Seed.....and you consider that to be a grown ass man?....attacking a little girl who cant defend herself on wax....

ThAT SHIT WAS LAME AND SO IS HE....

Meccadon and Black Friday:

I may not agree with all of your views, but I repsect your opinions, because there is at least some kind of logic as to why you feel the way you do.

That's why I'm telling you it's time for us to go. The idiots are comming in by the bus loads, and they could give a damn about true hip-hop or rap history. They're comming on here just argue and making comments so dumb it's frustrating just to read them.

I'd take the time to argue back, but the fact of the matter is they won't get it. Because if they weren't a total idiot, they wouldn't have made the original statement to begin with.

bluntblazer, you been blazing too much. I digs Bay area music, but Mac Dre at number 2??? Stop it. People gotta know him outside of a 45 mile radius to be top 10. If thats the case then my boy Skylark should be number 2 behind Dylan from Making Da Band. Dylan is number 1 because he spits hot fire!!!

SHAKEEMS TOP 10 (REVISED)

1.50 CENT
2.YAYO
3.SIR-MIX-ALOT
4.RAMPAGE
5.WRECKS-N-EFFECT
6.COOLIO
7.HOUSE OF PAIN
8.TONE LOC
9.MAGOO
10.FATHER MC

1. Tupac
2. Notorious B.I.G
3. Jay-Z
4. Eminem
5. Nas
6. Rakim
7. Scarface
8. Ice Cube
9. LL Cool J
10. Cassidy
11. T.I
12. Wayne
13. Jadakiss
14. jeezy
15. 50 cent/game

RAJ

You need to up ya hiphop education

Juvenile has 5 platinum albums:
Solja Rags
400 Degreez
G-Code
Project English
Juve The Great

All went platinum, you have just been kufi slapped!

Anywho, Jay is nowhere near number 1, and prolly aint even top 5 in my expert opinion

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Solja rags never went PLATINUM, neither did Project English, juvie stopped promoting that last album because he was already leaving Cash money the first time-that shit is in the old XXL article.

But if I'm wrong--please cut and paste the proof...and my point was that the only CLASSIC ALBUM ON THAT LIST IS 400 Degreez-I own every album on that list except for Project english which was recycled shit....

you're talkin to a nigga that was buying the old Get it How U Live BG shit--

According to Billboard.com the album (solja rags) peaked at 55--how did it go platinum, it was distributed independently intially and was re- released by universal after the deal.

THE FIRST PLATINUM ALBUM RELEASED BY CMR WAS 400 Degreez, followed by Chopper City in the Ghetto and the Hoit Boys joint went plat. Shit-even the old Big Tymers shit was never platinum until after Juvie broke through...

I hate to put people in their place but you don't know shit about what sold and what didn't...

This is why there was a checklist yesterday because non knowing smart dumb dudes come on and quote incorrect record sales.

Expert opinion-lol

LYRICALLY, nobody on that list is fucking with Eminem or Jay-z.

You fools dont listen to how well these two niggas twist and flip each and every word. Nobody can possibly do what hov does. Thats why he's number 1.

i am a jay z fan....but yall are right, he would be number 1 if he was dead...so simply put..."ONLY 2 IN RESTING IN HEAVEN CAN BE MENTIONED IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS HIM"...

'BIG AND NAS WOULD LYRICALLY CHEW PAC.'??

So why didn't they then?

I think 10 years from now that list will be just about on point. Nobody would crown KRS-One number 1 while he was in his prime. It took some years for what he spit to resonate and then we said DAMN!!

Truthfully Eminem is better lyrically than all of them, hands down! But Jay moves crowds as well as anybody on that list has.

AH WILLY, NOT YOU AGAIN

get the flatch outa here aint no way jay z da best i rather listen to some techno then that joe camel ass nigga suck a dick no homo jay z fans dipset B.G. byrdgang we fly high THE SEANTE killa the don, jimmy blanco, hell rell, jr writer, juelz get ya weight up dipset forever EASTSIDE !A!

yeah i love jay-z to death still to this day he is my favorite rapper but i think being the greatest rapper of all time....i dont think he is number 1
In my top 5 it would be:
1) Tupac
2) Biggie
3) Scarface
4) Jay-Z
5) Nas

Dirty Queens

Nigga i was just putting out there how i felt about that shit like everyone else but as usual s NY nigga gotta talk shit over the internet like a lil bitch becasue he knowa a nigga can't reach out and touch his ass i rep the east cost to the fullest because i'm from the city with the highest crime rate in america BALTIMORE BITCH but i see why most southern niggas get tired of you upity as multhafuckas alwasy thinking that your shit don't stink and Jersey nigga been running you niggas for years and why half you bitches think your Jamacan. ashamed to be all Black American nigga shut your punk ass up and do your homework

Come on now, i like JAy but my man 2pac spit that shit that uplifted the race listen to "Changes". Plus the nigga got his own course at Harvard University, they not fin to give JAy-Z no class. I consider Pac a true poet

1. Tupac
2. Nas
3. Biggie
4. Big L
5. Ghostface
6. Jay-Z
7. Raekwon
8. KRS-ONE
9. Kurupt
10.Killa Priest

Hon. Mention: Rza, BG, Mac, Styles P, Sheek, Jada, M-1, Shyne, Rakim, Saigon

NIGGAS HAVE DECLARED WAR ON EACH OTHER IN HERE!

get the flatch outa here aint no way jay z da best i rather listen to some techno then that joe camel ass nigga suck a dick no homo jay z fans dipset B.G. byrdgang we fly high THE SEANTE killa the don, jimmy blanco, hell rell, jr writer, juelz get ya weight up dipset forever EASTSIDE !A!

Posted by: 3a$t$id3dAfRRRucKuP at April 11, 2006 02:08 PM

You repesent everything that's wrong with todays youth. Nigga you live in Westchester - ACT LIKE IT!!!

It's a well known fact that DipSet and Young Jeezy's biggest supporters are people born and raised in the suburbs, because listening to them makes them feel like they can identify with the streets. The moment I saw some skinny black chick dressed like Ally McBeal singing Jeezy's album word for word - I knew it was over.

YO DIRTY QUEENS, FUCK BMORE YOU BITCH NIGGA....YOU ONLY GOT A HIGHER CRIME RATE THATN NY CUZ IT'S LESS PEOPLE....COCKSUCKA..

Come on now, i like JAy but my man 2pac spit that shit that uplifted the race listen to "Changes". Plus the nigga got his own course at Harvard University, they not fin to give JAy-Z no class. I consider Pac a true poet