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Black Rob and The Curse of Bad Boy

Written by SOHH Nah Right

Posted on April 3, 2006 9:30 AM

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Last week Harlem M.C. Black Rob was informed by a judge that he'd be spending the better part of the next 7 years in jail after failing to turn himself in to police back in January. Last year he was convicted of grand larceny for an incident at a Manhattan hotel, and was supposed to begin serving a 2 to 6 year sentence, but never showed up and a warrant was issued for his arrest.

I feel for Rob because although his last album didn't do to well commercially, I've heard some pretty good things about it from nearly everybody who's heard it. This also marks the loss of the last big name East Coast M.C. that Diddy had on the Bad Boy roster. He always has that kid Aasim but he's got along way to go with his career, and Puff's attention seems to be focused in other areas at the moment.

The first thing alot of people, myself included, said when they heard about the sentence was "Damn, the Curse of Bad Boy strikes again." Sure it sounds crazy, but you have to admit, damn near every rapper signed to this label has experienced some kind of career changing incident or went through some major drama. There are The Lox and their long running issues with Puff, Shyne's situation, Mase the gangster reverend, and of course B.I.G. who sadly ended up paying the ultimate price.

It's easy to say "oh there's a curse" or "Puff must bring bad luck", but the reality is, alot the drama these artists have endured, they brought upon themselves. For example, why is a veteran artist running up in a hotel room looking to get paid like some average fool off the street? Alot of the bad luck can be chalked up to bad judgement on the part of those involved, but you still have to wonder why all of this damn negative energy surrounds nearly everybody close to Diddy.

103 Comments

Didn't our grannies tell us 2:

WATCH THE COMPANY YOU KEEP!

Of course, puff can't COMPLETELY be blamed 4 the downfalls of lil kim, shyne, rob and any1 else in his camp
however 1 must intelligently question why every1 falls around him and he's only making a bigger blow up.


He's opening up on Wall Street this morning because his fragrance "Unforgivable" just broke some kind of record.

Bad Boys seems 2 be synonymous 4
bids, bad deals and big's death...

Puff only is concern wit himself, his right hand man loon left n it clearly tells u da kinda man puff is. neway thats the characteristics of the black man
greed(4me alone),envy,jealousy,quick tempered,killin,ignorant, awhole lotta bullcrap in da black race

If Puff was to pay his artists what they are supposed to be paid, they wouldn't have to dumb shit.

...ohhH and to top it all off, Loon is driving a Maxima... now, thats a curse

Dylan spits hott fire mon, but He gets no love.

Chopper lost his house, I bet you Diddy had something to do with Katrina, probably the house insurance was on his name.

Yo all every body has to do is read Mase book, if u don't want to surport him, go to the library and read it for free..

He explained why he left the game, all the women he had

Cam and him being best friends back in the day

the curse of bad boy

You can not blame that man changeing his life around after u reading the book

And you will also learn how powerful God is. because Foxy told Mase she was going to leave the game also, but didn't follow up, so now u see how foxy is.

The book is a must read,

Loon driving a Maxima... LoL. Maximas aren't so bad. It aint a Bentley, but damn; it aint a Caprice Classic either.

Dont forget his R&B artists... 112 works at a car wash now.

Total is hosting Karoake Nite at somebodys sports lounge.

Carl Thomas just stuck me up on 35th Street here in the Chi the other nite-- right behind the police station.

b5 is doing gay porn.

Dream is doing str8 porn.

And the newest Making the Band hoes have been instructed to be on Season 2 of Flavor of Love to promote their album, that will sadly never come out.

I thought I told you that he would stop.

Yep Diddy know how to get money and thats about it, he is an artist killer, him and the Row with Suge. They aint worried too much about the artist...I mean he rapes half of his artist by taking the there publishing so he getting money but the artsit isnt...I dont know why artsit still sign with dude

Its cuz puffy jerks EVERY artist hes has out of money! He only gave biggie a 25,000 advance. The nigga gotta get paid more than you or you're screwed! Tell me who else he got left to jerk? RAPE-N-U-RECORDS!!!! HE'll be rapin you , rapin you, rapin you! You cannot escape the rape!!! That niggas pockets was hurting and he tried to come up Hope he getd released early

For example, why is a veteran artist running up in a hotel room looking to get paid like some average fool off the street?
il tell u why black rob was looking to do that shit.... nigga probaly broke as hell while puff on the islands squeezing wateva cum juice he got left outta any1 else signed to Bad Boy. B.R. probaly dont like to admit it but 4 a grown ass man to do something like that with the record he got u know he starving

G-unit doesnt have that problem and never will

did yall see the proactive article...I guess diddy can't preserve his sexy afterall...lol

CAN WE PLZ BAN SHAKEEM FROM THIS CITE.GUNIT CUM BUCKET.

Diddy is a rapist and I think that was established quite some time age. I recall reading here on SOHH that 50 is in the process of trying to get Mase out the Bad Boy contract. 50 said he doesn't understand why Diddy does that, it's like he's mad at the artists - the contacts are so bad. Then to top it off, he fucks up your song with his ad-libs. I'm surprised he ain't on Young-Joc's song.

Diddy is worse than Suge and more dangerous because Suge is straightforward with his gangsta, Diddy smiles in your fucking face with a shiny suit and tries to play like he has your best interest at heart - the Lox were right...he's the devil.

You remember on Making the Band 2 Sara wanted the contact reviewed and everyone pressured her into signing it. They are all doomed, none of them will resurface.

i don't think that's really shakeem

G-unit for life 50 gives he's artists every opportunity to shine

Diddy is a walking career ender.
Look what happened to G-Dep, The nigga'a single was poppin and Puff still didn't support him.
Bad Boy ain't no label.
After Whoa Black Rob didn't get no support from puff.

And why is Puff always at some gala event and his artists are never there.

Puffy don't like black people.

don't blame diddy for his artist being broke, it's simple, you don't sell albums you don't eat, thats why alot of artist down south are independent because of all the profit they make and less over head to deal with, just as slim thug said, if he only sale a 100,000 thats 800,000 in the bank

It's called ignorance!!! Purely based on the statistic with the bad boy brand, bad boy as a record label is truthfully of no value for any artist who's just breaking ground. The practice of pillaging an artists publishing nothing new. The biggest examples of companies who did this are the original cold chillin' for you older heads, they had kool g rap and biz markie, big daddy kane and rakim at one point. Oh yeah and def jam!!!(for which now kimora spends thousands of dollars on hair coloring while these artists are struggling to even pay section 8 project rent. This is a practice that has spanned over the entire 20 plus years that hip hop has been commercially relevant. The sad thing is that rappers enter the industry as ghetto-fied idiots and then mature and once they mature they realize that they really aren't making that much money overall but what they've been seeing as number is just figures on paper and from that they get a minimal cut. Hell you have engineers who make more money from a rap album than the actual artist does. I think that's just pathetic and should serve some of the young ones in this genre to actually hit the books because not only do you get jacked in the music industry but also will end up being underpaid to do the job of someone who would be making more to do it elsewhere.

Let me start off by saying that P.Diddy is shittie. Man if you look at the history of the Bad Boy shit Puffy had a take over line up at a point the things that happen to that was bad blood, blood shed, and last but not least convitions. If I was the niggas on that label I would try to stay clean and get out. Because Bad Boy is bad business. It gets puffy money but it got u in the end.


I remember in like 1992, some news report had some special on a young entrepreneur named Sean "Puffy" Combs. He was impressive back then... but if success and money makes you jerk other niggaz around and lose respect, then I'll pass. Puff has jerked every single person who has been on his label - and I'm saying this as a former fan. I love enterprisin, and I respect niggaz about their business, but Puff ain't no better than other corporate white folks that jerk workers for their pay.

Hate 50 love 50 - I don't care one much about him one way or the other. But one thing I respect about dude (and Cam and others) is that every dude on his team is rich - and that's real. That's the kind of shit that's gonna last. My business hero is Magic Johnson; he has found a way to make serving the community profitable. Magic was paid no more than 3M as a basketball player, yet he's turned that into a 500M dollar empire. Puff has no empire, he has a plantation which consists of jerkin niggaz under him.

This dude went to the mountain top, just to realize that he has no base anymore. Yo Puff, I was a fan of your shit growing up through the early 90s, but not no more. You gotta alot of style, but no credibility anymore.

We don't believe you, you need more peoples.

After reading all these comments; only one thing came up to my mind and that's that every black person in America should go see a psychiatrist…this level of thinking is probably what keeps our people down…you have to realise that no one owes you anything….you only got 1 moms & 1 pops and that’s it….my man puff ain’t nobody’s daddy…and every deal he’s made with anyone were just business deal and that’s it…it aint my man’s job to tell his artist how to budget their pay check…it aint his job to teach rob that robbing people is illegal…it wasn’t diddy’s job to tell shyne that going clubbing all strapped up is a bad idea…it wasn’t puffy’job to tell LOX that they need to read they contract b4 signing it….he started out with nothing and become something….and just cause my man is black don’t mean that he owes your black ass something….you people need to get that fucked up mentality out of your brain…nobody owes you anything! Wake up black America just wake the fuck up!!
And just for the record I’m a Harlem nigga…so get it twisted!!!

Why is it that Carl Thomas 2nd Album was good, but didn't get any air-play was Puffy mad @ Carl about something?? He blew up Mario but left Carl Thomas
stinking, why ?

I know that Carl has a big head and all, but no matter what the actual size of a persons head is that just can't be helped/

I guess Puff thought there can be only one Big head in this corporation.

Has anyone seen the photo's of Puff on the net dancing with some guy with a lepoard cat suit on, what's really good with him anyway, he is just trying to get away with too much, he is such a sucker anyway!! Puffy sucks we should really not even support him. I rally coudln't tell what dude is anymore!!

Well said Blow...

chuck norris does not care for Puffy
chuck norris does not care about black people
chuck norris does not care about white people
chuck norris only cares about himself just like puffy

diddy maybe milking his mothafuckin artist but whose to blame if they too mothafuckin dumb to know what they contract is about, niggas need to stop gettin excited that they gettin a deal and read the mothafuckin agreement.
black rob is a fool to b doin some petty ass shit like robbin some bitch for her jewels, nigga must be addicted to crack or somethin. nigga u black rob , u can make that money else where

If you really think about all puffy's
artists have done bad commercially yet
he's rich as fuck people say paris hil-
ton is famous for doing nothing I think
that applies more with puffy then paris
but instead of gettin fucked puffy spent
his time fuckin artists I hate puffy tha
corny ass fruity nigga gets on my nerves
I can't stand em & I think if BIG was
still with us he would have left puffy
along time ago to form his own shit &
puffy would not be who he is today!!!!

By tha way if you bought this bougie
niggas cologne you deserve a slap in
ya fuckin mouth!!!

He has no kind of street cred anyway, talking about his sexy are u for real, Your sexy ??? It's one thing to be metro and all, but dude your sexy, come on now...your really pushing it and why is anyone lettin this man live by entertaining this BS, Dude really need to get checked. This is BS- Blackrob wouldnt have to steal from an average joe is Puff took care of his peoples. 50 make sure all his pep's are well taken care of, I know this first hand people may stay whatever they want but 50 make sure everyone in his camp have the same extact stuff, If you got a chain and a ring, I get a chain and a ring come on take care of your family -

His Boy Sha tell me all the time that if it wasnt for him , he would still be stuck in the hood for real they travel everywhere and they love it & there getting paid for being on tour he met so many Kings & Queens and they get alot of loved for all over, Im not a huge 50 cent fan, but I respect what kind of movement in hip hop and I love it, and he's taking so many people with him just because his heart is good

Thats fucked up.. he had this hot joint with aasim called back and forth that if given exposure was most defintely a hit

well Karma is a bitch ain't it?...Diddy and Suge can't keep a distributor or a roster with decent rap talent. But is it all Karma?

The rap game is fickle anyway-half of the people might say Diddy ain't shit now but all had the Bad Boy catalog including that disappoint Band album.

Fickle? Think about it...
Master P and No Limit '97-'99, running shit...now P is on Dancin with the Stars

Suge and the Row '92-96...after the Doggfather album-everything went downhill-Petey Pablo droppin 2010

Baby and Cash Money '97-2001...Lil Wayne's album is hot, but that's all there is...

Ruff Ryders '98-2001...I know we've had some good stuff from Kiss, but damn, that last compliation was ass...

Lets not even talk about Rocafella, Murder Inc, and many others who have died along the way...

Pour out a little liquor...

By the way--Unforgivible is not bad--didn't buy it, just loaded up on the samples when I bought something else-lol

Fake it til u make it...

Puff just takes people who won't ask questions and he can easily control. Did anybody read the second post from AHA? Didn't think so. Don't come on here disrepecting nobodies race. That ain't the characsteristics of no man, that's people period. I didn't even know Carl Thomas had a second album. And to my ole' boy akb; I got it twisted...just like you wanted stupid!

WHO GIVES A FUCK....99.9% OF THE ARTISTS ON THE BAD BOY LABEL SUCK/SUCKED..I hope you people didnt expect those artists to become legends..LMMFAO..Get real..they were only good for 1 album..

Bring Black Rob to G-Unit and he'll go Diamond.

That last BR album was hot as hell. It sucks that it didn't get a better push. It's even worse to think that we won't see anything from BR in a long time, if ever again.

www.justcallmenom.com

If Puff was to pay his artists what they are supposed to be paid, they wouldn't have to dumb shit.

Posted by: chevy g. hustle at April 3, 2006 10:42 AM


I agree

the black community needs more dissent , hard working and inspirational people like diddy and less uneducated retards like youzzz

there is a curse at bad boy, look what happened to the top 5 rappers at bad boy, not group...

1. B.I.G-rip because of puff
2. Mase-confused because of puff
3. Shyne-jail because of puff
4. Loon-on the dl because of puff
5. Black Rob-jail(not puff's fault)

the biggest curse at bad boy is puff.

BLACK ROB TRIED TO LIVE UP TO HIS NAME
BY ROBBING PEOPLE

puff iz bad luck....y can't nobody see that.....i wuz at the basketball game in '91 at City College when those people died.....(2 me it seemed like tickets were oversold....$$$$$)after that it's all been downhill....i believe the marraige between big n faith was initially "arranged" for publicity (not saying they didn't love eachother...but they got married so fast)....i think the east/west beef was perpetuated by him....(and i wouldn't put it past him to be involved in pac's death or shooting...maybe even big...)..i think he's violent....and a thief....Big, Total, Carl, 112, Lox, Dream, Daband, Shyne, Mase, G-Dep, Rob, they all was so hungry they never saw that they were being f*cked w/no vaseline...once i saw puff on the cover of Vibe with a halo holding a Bible I knew then that he was trying to fool us into thinking he was an angel when in reality he is the opposite....don't sleep...

This might be why the 5 burroughs is losing it's GRIP

Report: black population in New York City declining

NEW YORK (AP) -- For the first time since the Civil War, the black population in New York City is declining, according to a published report.

Preliminary census estimates indicate that the city had 30,000 fewer black residents in 2004 than in 2000, The New York Times reported in an article published in Monday's edition.

Though more American-born blacks have been leaving the city than arriving since at least the 1970s, the 1.5 percent decline suggests that the arrival of black people from abroad and higher birthrates among immigrants are insufficient to keep the community growing.

While white New Yorkers are more likely to move out of the city than blacks, New York also attracts large numbers of whites from other states.



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Blacks leaving New York City are much more likely to move out of the New York region rather than to the immediate suburbs, which attract much of the departing white population. One in three black married couples with children who left the city moved to nearby suburbs compared with two in three white married couples with children.

More than one-third of these black couples moved to the South.

"This suggests that the black movement out of New York City is much more of an evacuation than the movement for whites," said William Frey, a demographer for the Brookings Institution, told The Times.

The black population declined for the first time since 1863 when blacks were attacked during Civil War draft riots.

Were any of these BAD Boy acts anything but street hoodlums before signing to BADBOY??? I mean BIG fresh from C-74, standing out in front of the buildings hustling just trying to feed his daughter.... The LOX no excuse the warlocks,ever been to YOnkers??? YIKES. Shine ...Trigger happy DOPE dealer......Black ROB....I rest my case. Puff has just finally made the masses know what artist been screaming for the past 40years.....And finally for you extra STUPID M%$#HAFUCKAS THAT HAVE NO IDEA HOW A BUSINESS RUNS!!!!!!! THE COMPANY HAS TO MAKE MORE MONEY THAN THE EMPLOYEES!!!!!!! THE ARTist are employees, if the artist made more than the Labels, what would be the incentive of owning a label??????? PUFf takes the most money becuase he's the president of the F$CKING COMPANY !!!!!!!!!!! Who do you think MAKES more MONEY..... BILL GATES or the programmers and developers that type code all day and create the software????? You answered B and Diddy has some papaer work for you to sign...

DIDDY has been known for slaving his artists...B.I.G got a 25,000 advance???are you serious????

G-dep is in rehab
Total were they at?
B.R is doing a bid
Mase came back under 50

Lox fought to get out of there contract...and after years finally own there publishing

112 no longer under him but paying him
Wheres Mario winans? Carl Thomas? The Band? Loon don't even fuck with him like that...

This nigga is a DEVIL for real he cares only about what you doing for him...niggas fall off quickly because he ain't letting niggas live...now he trying to live through BIG's name with these wack recycled bullshits every year...BAD BOY IS DONE...FUCK DIDDY

Lox fought to get out of there contract...and after years finally own there publishing

Posted by: Prophetic::Poet at April 3, 2006 02:35 PM

its their not "there"

stay in school

Puff dont owe dem niggas nothing. Black Rob goes and stick someone up and yall blame Puff? How!! Kim gets locked up and yall blame Puff? That's their dumb ass faults not Diddy's. That's like your ass robbing someone and blaming your boss cuz you dont know how to control yourself. Every last one of those people are GROWN and have a brain! I guess Whitney can blame her crack habit on her manager then huh. Take responsibility for your actions!!!!

P.s how come you guys are bad mouthing puffy hes a business man get over it

i dont care what anyone says i wouldn't sign w/diddy if he was the last record label on earth that faggot shafted everyone w/no lubrications except biggie....y u think all his artist go out and do what they in the streets cuz diddy rape they're life like enron did ya heard last words FUCK DIDDY

if diddy was payin his artist like he was supposed to they wouldn't have to do stupid shit and numerous of his artist has said that main ones the lox y think they called d-block now anytime they put a lox album out diddy still cakes off that diddy is %50 owner of there publishing which is the lox fault should've read the contract better but still diddy is foul and one day someone gonna fuck him for that period

Prophetic u said it best just brke the whole shit dwn FUCK DIDDY

This is funny that all of this is happening around the time Suge Knight is losing Death Row. I could see the end of Bad Boy Records real soon...So that being said, these are the remaining Labels of one of Hip Hop's golden years! And now, they are coming to an end...wow..

I like Puffy's entreprenuerial skills but it does seem as if a Black cloud follows anybody that has come off of that label.
He is a paper gangster and love the spotlight too much to let any artist on his label outshine him. He has robbed a bunch of people, however he has also been a trail blazer in terms of the bridging commercial success of Hip Hop and Urban culture much like Russell Simmons. He has transformed from being a dancer to building companies to the point that he does not need to record another record for the rest of his life and he will still have generations of money to pass on to his children.
We need to take a lesson from that- EDUCATE YOURSELF!Handle yoou BI! BOTTOM LINE!

Like I said before karma is a muthafucka but is it all Diddy's fault.

Didn't Tribe say something about rule #4080? The key is not signing something without READING the fine print.
I understand a lot of brothers and sisters are trying to create a better way for themselves but at the end of they day a contract is a contract. Some people just take advances and think they're papered up. look at Whitney, even she fucked herself out of a future by not owning any of her publishing-even Prince fell for it. The record company busines is what it is, and people have to learn from the mistakes of all those people on Motown to the Lox before signing anything.

Pac was making music to basically eat. Suge paid him with cars and chains....

Niggas might say Diddy's the Devil but he's only using what Russ and Andre Harrell taught him. Why you think Nas signed w/ Jigga? He fucked himself as a yougd dude-notice how Sony still gets money off his next albums?

As much as a lot of rappers complain about how niggas fucked them, they should also learn from their mistakes and teach these other smart dumb niggas about the game.
Laugh at a nigga being on Koch all you want Ma$e but at least Sheek got $8 off each album sold. You STILL can't get away from Diddy...

That chain won't help you when niggas want their light bill paid.

It's all about Guns and Butter niggas, and too many cats got Parkay in their hands right now.

black rob is a grown ass man.puff didnt make his dumb ass run into someones room and take there shit.

i was walking down the strip on sunset when i saw spider loc...he tried to sell me his mixtape...i said hell no...he then said 50 dropped him off there because he wont let him record another song unless he can prove his shit isnt wack...it was at that time that i proceeded to stomp his ass out with my hurricanes and took his little ass chain....
black wall street for lizifffe nucca

Word..Black Rob's ablums was FIRE !!! His first joint was dope and his second one didnt even get Pushed and you RAdio Zombies trying to shit on the God cause u didnt hear the Fucking Album..It's funny how cat's Co-sign a fake ass rapper that never did Dirt !!! And this nigga Rob was a real dude..He did what he had to do...And got Knocked..it's fucked up but at lease he did shit he rap about..Puff is a HOMO and cares more about his Skin than his niggas...Brooklyn ALL DAY !!! you know what it is !!

Well..What a difference a few years make. How was Puff the downfall of all these artist. When Bad Boy was on top I didnt hear about anyone of them saying they were broke. The truth is,people stop buying Bad Boy material after B.I.G. died. Puff got in the spotlight to keep the label going. and i dont know any label Owner,CEO (including 50) that will pay someone more than themselves. Thats just bad business. You think BIG was mad at getting 25,000 up front hell naw,and none of you would turn that down either.

GOD DON'T LIKE UGLY. PUFF WILL GET HIS. AND ISN'T LOON PUFFY'S LOVER.

"Black Rob Report" was the shit. What's really fucked up about this is the fact that this album received absolutely ZERO push. Shit's sad when you put out a dope album like that and your own label doesn't even try to sell that shit...AHEM GHOSTFACE KILLAH AHEM DEF JAM AHEM.

But besides that, Puffy... sorry... Diddy is indeed an ass-raping demon. But shit, you gotta sell your soul to the devil, he can't just take it from you. If Black Rob signed a shitty contract and ended up broke, that's Black Rob's fault.

PUFFY IS AN ASSWHOLE
HE'S NOT A REAL DUDE, SELFISH AND CONCEITED,
IT IS TRUE, IF B-ROB WAS ON G-UNIT, HIS SHIT WOULD BE THROUGH THE ROOF.
B-ROB SHOULD NOT EVEN CALL PUFF BUT PUT SOME MONEY OUT THERE

fuck g unit.im sorry i had to say it fuck g unit.you niggas kill me if he or she was on g unit if my mamma was on g unit if only 50 was my daddy if you would have got g unit tattoos instead of your baby mammas name if g unit was running the country we wouldnt be in iraj. you niggas is worst the ballerina p swinging from 50s nut sack.fuck g unit banks and buck olivia spider loc mase mobb deep 50 tony homo fuck em.
now back to our regular program.

Here are the latest Sound Scan figures in order of weekly sales, only the totals are given here though. Enjoy.

01 NE-YO - IN MY OWN WORDS 301,994
05 MARY J. BLIGE - BREAKTHROUGH 1,894,126
13 EMINEM - CURTAIN CALL 2,065,963
15 BLACK EYED PEAS - MONKEY BUSINESS 3,471,155
17 DEM FRANCHIZE BOYZ - ON TOP OF OUR GAME 255,444
20 JAHEIM - GHETTO CLASSICS 252,745
21 KEYSHIA COLE - WAY IT IS 977,859
22 CHRIS BROWN - CHRIS BROWN 1,104,581
24 JAMIE FOXX - UNPREDICTABLE 1,574,603
31 SEAN PAUL - TRINITY 663,673
33 T-PAIN - RAPPA TERNT SANGA 348,087
34 MARIAH CAREY - EMANCIPATION OF MIMI 5,434,116
42 NELLY - SWEATSUIT 503,482
49 LIL' WAYNE - CARTER II 797,623
50 NOTORIOUS B.I.G. - DUETS: THE FINAL CHAPTER 930,109
56 GORILLAZ - DEMON DAYS 1,737,539
57 DADDY YANKEE - BARRIO FINO ENDIRECTO 445,295
58 KANYE WEST - LATE REGISTRATION 2,644,626
64 DESTINY'S CHILD - #1'S 16,240 -17 19,562 1,007,612
67 YOUNG JEEZY - LET'S GET IT 1,494,682
70 THREE 6 MAFIA - MOST KNOWN UNKNOWN 689,104
77 D4L - DOWN FOR LIFE 388,245
81 ANTHONY HAMILTON - AIN'T NOBODY WORRYING 362,255
87 JOHN LEGEND - GET LIFTED 1,635,709
91 JUELZ SANTANA - WHAT THE GAME'S BEEN MISSING 569,991
97 LUDACRIS & DTP - LUDACRIS PRESENTS DISTURBING THA PEACE 493,558
102 YING YANG TWINS - U.S.A. STILL UNITED 148,330
104 VARIOUS ARTISTS - MUSIC FROM & INSPIRED BY GET RICH 1,259,643
106 SCARFACE PRESENT THE PRODUCT - ONE HUNID 25,492
111 REMY MA - THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT REMY 76,340
127 PAUL WALL - PEOPLE'S CHAMP 662,425
136 DON OMAR - DA HIT MAN PRESENTS REGGAETON 190,264
137 DAMIAN MARLEY - WELCOME TO JAMROCK 455,311
143 HUSTLE & FLOW - SOUNDTRACK 328,314
158 BUN-B - TRILL 456,115
159 50 CENT - MASSACRE 4,924,049
166 ALICIA KEYS - UNPLUGGED 761,215
167 PITBULL - MONEY IS STILL A MAJOR ISSUE 216,695
168 BIZZY BONE - THUGS REVENGE 6,506
178 BONE THUGS-N-HARMONY - GREATEST HITS 474,205
179 DILATED PEOPLES - 20/20 18,210
181 REGGAETON NINOS - VOL. 1-REGGAETON NINOS 69,961
182 RIHANNA - MUSIC OF THE SUN 410,165
189 BOW WOW - WANTED 5898,632
191 YOLANDA ADAMS - DAY BY DAY 276,008
193 BIG BOI PRESENTS - VOL. 2-GOT PURP 172,656

If iu tired of the executive producer, dancin all in ya videos, singin all on ya records, then come to death row.

And puffy shot me in miami. And his new cologne stinks.

And o yea cop Lake's wack ass album

Wow! This is nuts! P Diddy is just a man with a dream. He worked hard and created a business for himself.

In business your goal is to make money. I think he did well.

Maybe personally he needs some training on how to treat people . But overall, this man created alot of the trends we all follow.

Business and friendship are two separate things.

Diddy is a business man.

Peace,

King David
www.Beatclass.com

Black Rob is truly Dumb Rob for what he did......and puff aint make him...

HOWEVER..if Puff was a real nicka, and not a shark azz nicka, i think he should've taken care of Rob to a point where he wouldnt have to do dumb shiet like that. Puffy is great at manipulating people and using other people's talent to get ahead. i dont know if that's a good trait, but he str8 up phoney to me.

biggie only got 25 g's? thats was his nicka right? some friend..lol

why is 50 cent name being mentioned, this is black rob and puffy,why am i seeing fuck fifty on here.get off this nigga dick you bums.god damn!!!!!
no wonder this dude is so huge right now

EnglandRepresent: SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT ABOUT ME BUT NEVER SAY A WORD AGAINST 50 UNDERSTAND ???

shakeem... chill lil nigga, are u willing to jump of tha bridge for fifty

DIDDY KILLED ALL DEM NIGGAS IN THAT CITY COLLEGE FIASCO AND THATS WHERE THIS SUPPOSED CURSE STARTED> DIE SLOW>

EAZY-E WAS NO GANGSTA. HE WAS ONLY AFFILIATED WITH CRIPS. I AM A SUPER CRIP. NO ONE CAN FUCK WITH THE G-UNIT CRIPS. WHEN WE'RE IN YO HOOD, YOU BEST TO CALL THE MOTHA FUCKIN COPS. SUGE KNIGHT IS A BITCH ASS SLOB. I ALSO HEARD THAT SNOOP DOGG WAS REALLY A BLOOD THAT BANGED DAMU. MC EIHT IS A BITCH, THAT WAS ONLY AFFILIATED WITH CRIPS. DJ QUIK IS A HOMO SLOB.

G-G-G-G-G--GUNIT! CRIPS!

Fucc diddy fuck suge fuck cointelpro

For you G-unit stans, if you read this towards the end X-plicit disses 50 Cent. And for Nas fans he disses him too.

plicit
April 3, 2006
you still battlin? no wonder text is hated,
underdogs get crushed too, like pups in collapsed basements...
you're frustrated, maybe cause my rhyme scheme is flawless,
sayin like 86 times doesn't make ya verse chocked full of multis...
'aint got many secrets.. I've put several men in their coffins
but after I murder Unknown he'll be the only skeleton in my closet'...
I'm on a murderin rampage, you gettin rattled in fights,
I'm killin the feline species so no cat'll survive...
despite all these words, you're nobody, don't start kid,
you're a household name, congrads! but everyone has garbage...
Damn, you lost, I won't lie, you suck and need to brighten up,
I smoked this bitch with uppercuts, just to leave him high as fuck...
It’s barely competitive how ur repetitive... time to fall
Ur lines are shopping centers.. if u’ve seen one u’ve seen a mall..
this bitch is next for the kiss of death, start cuddlin,
the only time you'll ever beat me, is if my computer started stu... stu... stu... stud... stu... s..s s..s..s stu... stud... *ERROR*... *ERROR*...

Um... one second...

*REBOOTS*

STUDDERIN..!

Ok... that's better...

I thought about this win and my ambition started to fade,
when I heard ya audio and decided you were best for micro'wav's...
So who dared you to step to, the cream that's up in here?
..I'll be pulling more strings than a team of puppeteers...
We were seperated at birth, and the threats in this thread
But when I departed, FUCK!!! you lost your competetive edge...
You paid the price of fame... and it's costing you fam
no one cares your a bitch... just take this loss like a man...
Fitty thrilled by my stats... and the fact that I rip compositions
NAS arm wrestled my dick... well he said he wanted stiff competition...
vets rapidly cease... instilled wit the will to crunch spines clearly
...makin my verses are the ONLY time I'm feelin Punch lines featuring Unknown!
PM'd you verses for battles... but first they went right where?!
bet 100-1 odds... 99% of them are in your verse... RIGHT THERE..!

X-plicit thinks he's the best rapper alive now......someone please tell him that he's wack soon!

I wonder why X-plicit didnt diss Jigga? Maybe coz X-plicit is a bitch, him and his wack ass No Dollaz need to realize they musics wack as hell.

EnglandRepresent
April 4, 2006
X-Plicit on the real The Marxmen suck severe ass, I'm not sure that they're any better than Young HoeAss, First Crush is one of the worst tracks I have ever heard, its a disgrace to hip-hop. First Crush, are you niggas serious? I thought you might have improved your roster but on second thoughts you shoulda stuck with Young Dizzle.

LMAO!!! Damn EnglandRepresent. Your going to make them bitch niggas cry now!!

so what if he stole sum shit youd do the same thing if you had nothing , at least he isnt a old lady bag snatcher
dun did wot he had to ta get paid

It ain't no BadBoy curse, it's the drug addict curse. Props go out to BG, he kicked it. All u industry/in da streets niggaz, pay attention to what drugs do to yah!!

Rapping is about skilz, not about shooting and robbing people. Come on all u crack heads saying he had to do what he had to do to get paid. If he ran up on your moms and stole her life savings u wanna be looking to shoot him up.

Envy u gotta be a crack head. Whitney done told you all crack is wack!!

Your reply will let me know if the shoe fitted!!!

Envy and his supporting crack cast!!

I just want to make these comments real quick. Whenever things like this a discussed, why does everybody say "These artist should read their contract" "If they weren't so dumb........blah blah blah, they should have gotten lawyers."

Who said these artist didn't read their contracts or get the lawyers? You guys are just assuming they didn't. I don't care how smart you are or how much you read. It's always somebody that's going to get one up on you. It doesn't mean you can't be tricked or fooled into something.

How do you think the white man got this land from the Indians..........they tricked them (and the Indians were smart people).

So whether people want to admit it or not, Puff was involved in these people's careers. He's not the total blame, but he was certainly a factor. That can't be denied. It doesn't mean his roster of artist didn't read their contracts or didn't get the lawyers.

It just means Puff got one over on them. Him being a CEO/owner executive of a label, he had way more knowledge and expertice than the folks he was signing. I'm sure he had his contracts drawn up a certain way, to disguise the trickery. Contracts can be drawn up (or worded/constructed) a number of different ways.

Something can look good on paper, but mean something totally different. If you can't catch that or figure it out, you're had. I don't care how smart or college educated you may be. You can still get duped and somebody can still get one over on you.

It certainly doesn't mean Puffy is not crook (or in the wrong). He mos def is a crook.

As far as Blck Rob and his sentence is concerned. Puff isn't responsable for that. That's Rob's own doing. He made the choice to get himself in trouble with the law, not Puff.

you got niggazz like:
-michael jackson that shamefully rape little kids;change his skin colour and goes bankrupt after receiving a billion dollar contract
-you got crack heads like Witney houston parading around with that other crackhead bobby brown;
-you got Rkelly fucking and pissing on little children;
-you got dave chappelle selling out his own people by making humiliating joke so that his DVD can go platinum (which by the way reminds me of the movie bambozzle);
-and so many other people out there that are doing a great job by downgrading the black community;

Now out of all them niggazz...you're telling me that diddy is the one you dont wanna see succeed??? and u know wat the funny thing is??....the more you hate on that nigga the more he goes platinum!! just yesterday he celebrating about his aftershave being number one!!!
the most decent and succefull black celebrity to come out of hip hop is the one you're black ass is hating on!!
COME ON NOW!!!
-you think that his song are shit but your black ass was dancing to them song when they came out;
-you think that his seanjohn clothe and perfum iz shit but your black ass been wearing it and showing off;
let's be proud black america....let's be proud of our own sons and daughters who are out there working their asses off just to make up for the dumb shit michael,rkelly,and all them other niggaz are doing....

why didn't these artist go to diddy and say," hey, I need some publicity for their albums or let's drop another single off my album." If they did and Puff didnt listen, then that's his fault the album went cardboard. Just like remy ma blasted fat joe, BITCH do it yourself. PUSH THE ISSUE ON DEM NIGGAS! I dont blame puff for their sales if they didn't put in anymore work other than recording. dem mufuckas been in the game long enough to realize what they need to do. all that street shit aint his fault either. yall talkin this shit bout," oh if puff just paid them right!" FUCK THAT! Do a mixtape. Put in some work other than recording. Save your money and flip it. Everyone blaming puff but just because he has the word "Daddy" in his name doesn't mean that he is their "Daddy." Real talk.

Someone made a comment that Diddy didn't take care of Rob-ROb had been in numerous articles saying Puff supported him when he was going through his medical issues while he was in the bing...he was pissed he didn't get the right promotion on this last album, but he would still never come out and say "Free Black Rob" because most niggas do bids and come home with no contract-a lot of contracts in pretty much every workplace have clauses for behaivor. And for real some people have money and still can't shake criminal behaivor.

I can't blame Diddy for trying to put more Biggie shit out because at the end of the day he realizes he lucked out with him. How many labels still put out greatest hits with artists that are either dead or no longer on the label. As a fan I wish he'd stop, but as a business man I understand.

And AKB I feel your comments, niggas was all into trapped in the closet but this is a sick man who has a thing for young girls and likes videotaping the act and beats his wife up. And this nigga is nominated for an NAACP Image Award-we as people got out priorities fucked up.

But remember with that Dave Chappelle thing, he said that he thought about responsibility to his people and when that white man laughed at that joke a little too hard, he realized he was fuckin up...at least he can realize that-we can't say the same for others.

I can see the smile on Dr. Dre's face
after reading about the surge knight's situation. Karma is a motherfucker

This is for LilTip...you contradicted yourself in your comment..you said how do we know that these artist did not get lawyers because contracts can be written in a certain way that makes the words look good...well last time I checked..it was the lawyers duty to catch things of that nature and if they don't..then they are liable for advising you as a client to sign a bad deal...also..if you notice that your lawyers is not doing the job they are paid for..then it's time to get a better lawyer...

puff may be a business man but do realize that the record industry has changed to the point where you can create ypur own buzz..and if black rob was putting out mixtapes like someone else said instead of catching petty cases for robbery..maybe people would have wanted to hear his cd..and I fail to believe if artists like remy and black rob had records which sold out in the stores, even if there record company only shipped a limited amount..that the records company would not put in a new order...remand demand drives a product's success..and if they are having troble selling 150K copies..why would you ship more??

in the end..black robs success falls in teh hands of both he and puffy...but more so rob himself..if he was on his grind and made more appearances like mixtapes and remixes..even if it's only a mixtape remix...his record would sell more..and puff as teh executive would ship more units which would make them all happy and he would not have to do petty crime..

the reason puff doesn't put in THIER EFFORT is cuz its their responsibility. Puff is putting in the effort on his cologne and other shit to take care of him. They should of did the same. He dont have time to hold their hands.

fuck all yall get me some cheesecake bytches!!!!!!!

i'm having a hard time trying to swollow after my friend busts in my mouth. any suggestions?? i tried to ask g-unit for help but they said they like the jizz on their face not in the mouth.

^^^

What he said!

P Diddy is P Dirty!! I almost signed to Bad Boy but my better judgement pulled me out of that situation. Puff caught up with a broke as emcee with talent. Tried to sign me to his label for a bullshit $20,000.00, up front signing bonus. Yea I'm takin' trips to NY and LA, poppin bottles, fuckin models but all of that would have ceased as soon as a I signed. I would have been shelved and never heard of again. A fuckin tax write off!! Puff offered me a new manager and a lawyer, all of course are Bad Boy affiliated. (Which is an ugly conflict of interest) I was broke and really couldn't afford my own so I was tempted. But then I thought better about it and said fuck it.

A lot of these people he signs he does it with his own lawyers and his own managment. On MTV's The Band he gave them a Bad Boy Manager, now what kind of shit is that?? And that's why they end up getting fucked and falling off. Puff don't care about the music no more yall, it's all about Sean John. I ain't mad at him for going where the money is, but stop fuckin over young brothas that deserve better.

Black Rob has been fuckin up since jump street he has no one to blame but himself.

Fuck RPG's, Gay Disciples run this shit now.

I'm not mad at puff lesson to all wanna be rappers if you sign a contract you're gonna get fucked. puff's not the first to fuck his artists, eazy e and jerry heller fucked dr. dre, and nwa's rights plus anyone else who was on ruthless records back in the day kokane said this is business nothing personal. berry gordy fucked everybody in motown I read stories how motown acts found out about how berry screwed them and most of them are broke florence ballard of the supremes drank and drugged herself to death, paul williams blew his head off, and that's just an example of how people ghet fucked, but then again these cats don't know how to handle money and they go on shopping sprees and buy shit they can't afford and do drugs look at whitney she's through, she'll overdose anyday now who wants to hear a bobby brown cd in 2006 hell nobody, puff's a hustler yeah him and suge knight have some crooked ways but it's business puff had nothing to do with black rob robbing anybody, or g dep being cracked out or lil kim going to jail, if mase was so pissed at the music biz why the fuck did he come back, 50 mioght have some crooked ways about him hell he dumped game cause game's cd outsold the massacre.

rappers fuck themselves up biggie should have stayed outta cali and lil kim should have told the truth.

puff is awesome. fuck everyone. this is business not the friendship factory. fuck black rob. don't drop the soap you stupid motherfucker.

sherance you stupid bitch game only sold half of fifty in the us and worldwide
and why would he drop game for selling records when he makes more off games album than game does???

White Snake, Black Snake...It's still a Fucking SNAKE!! and PuFF is a Snake ASS Dude !! If Black Rob was really his Man's he would of never let him do what he did. PuFF is Sitting on MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars, You telling me he couldnt Look out for his Fellow Brother...Fuck that !! He did it with Shine,Craig Mack, and Black Rob..Once he makes the most money off of you Blood and Sweat then your Dumped off..PUFF is a SNAKE !!!!!! And owns Sweatshops around the World to make his shit!!

DID ANYONE HEAR ABOUT REMY MA NOT PERFORMING AT 'FOR SISTERS ONLY' IN CHARLOTTE? REMY WAS CHILLIN @ THE HOTEL CLAIMING SHE WAS NOT READY TO PERFORM & MISSED HER SLOT. LATER SHE CAME TO THE SIDE OF THE STAGE WITH A BABY TO WAVE @ THE CROWD.

AFTER ALL SHE'S BEEN THRU,WOULDN'T YOU THINK SHE WOULD TAKE MORE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HER CAREER? SHE JUST FUKKED UP HER RADIO PLAY @ ONE OF THE BIGGEST STATIONS IN THE SOUTH EAST.
SAD.

Yo, Why the fuck are you bitches posting as me. That is some bullshit.

Those who are looking to get into the music business are called starving artist for a reason, “this” is “initially” their most vulnerable time just to get signed. May I remind you of the slew of artist that still went to both Puff and Suge fully knowing the obvious consequence before going elsewhere…for those who didn’t know the Game was one of them. Everyone on this site has a valid point, those who are for, against; neutral to Puffs dealings or lack there of. You know that saying, it can't be everyone else’s fault if you’re the common denominator. Everyone has mentioned the majority of artist that the Devil...I mean Puff has dealt with but you may have forgot that he was trying to run Mary J Blige as well and they had a hard time finishing that remix album. Craig Mack may have had only one hit but c’mon show some love and groom your artist. But Satan...oops, Puff has been given the no vaseline treatment as well. Remember Jennifer Lopez? He coined the phrase J. Lo and got no cash flow for it. Now everyone who knows Hip Hop is aware of the shady dealings of the West Coast giant Suge Knight so it is only fair that there should be an East Coast version, Sean "Puffy" Combs...it's the geographical Ying & Yang of life people look it up. For those singing the praise of 50 that's ok, however it really started with Dr. Dre and EZ-E. Keep in mind EZ screwed over a whole crew which led to the early exit of Ice Cube (old Ice Cube was da shit) and eventually Dre. Dre who made sure that Eminem got a great deal which in turn he gave 50 a great deal and so on and so on. I agree it isn't "fully' Puffs responsibility how ever look at the beauty of good karma. It all started with a guy who got "no vaseline" (old Ice Cube was da shit).
Finally I would like to say for those who made it and are black unfortunately there is a little more responsibility on their part to look after their own (Oprah does a descent job). Think back to New York’s history in which the Irish, Italians, and even the Jews all started at the bottom. Some took advantage of their peers but as a people they all came up eventually. We used to have a saying amongst “our” people, "each one teach one". We as a people are playing behind the 8 ball so "we" have to do what we can to stop this crab barrel affect. I see Puff out of the "rap" game, not by default or bankruptcy but by selling Bad Luck Boy to some chump. , therefore bringing his main focus on himself, his clothing line, food chain, and fragrances.

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I know somebody has said it, but the curse is Puff. He puts himself in front of his workers.

You think Rob would have to do shit like this if Puff would try to do more for him than 2 albums in 8-9 years? Look how he ripped all of the bad boys cats like the Lox and MAse on publishing?

I'm not saying Puff is to blame for ones actions, but if son put some effort into black rob like he was a shitty girl band rob could at least do gold.

The whole city is mine...prettiest Don..I don't like the way P.Diddy did Shyne...wit different lawyers. Why it's mentioned in my rhyme...fuck it..it's just an intro...hate it or love it...like it.. bump it..dump it...write it...

YO! YOU DO THE KNOWLEDGE....


PUFF IS THE ONLY RICH NIGGA TO EVER RECORD FOR BADBOY!

LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER BADBOY ARTISTS (ARE THERE ANY????)


NUFF SAID!

I think that Puff is a smart business, it's not his job to teach the ropes of the business. If you want to become a rapper learn the business get a lawyer before you sign a contract. Puff job is to what is in the best interest for him and his family not you as a rapper. He didn't put a gun to anyone head to sign a contract, you could have had a lawyer or someone who knows the legal part of the business so know you're stuck with the contract so know live with the consequences

Puff is definetly in it for himself. that sucks because some of these rappers are coming to him looking to better there career, but most of them are out with about 2 singles, and then they are done(with the exception of Biggie). If you want a long term deal and want to stay in the rap game, dont sign with Bad Boy.

RIP Proof

first of all rip proof, definetly one of the more underated talents in hip hop.

man i been saying puffy was the devil for the longest. you already know cuz its in front of your face. craig mack, total, sammie?, and lets move to the current or not so current stars... shyne , black rob, faith , lox, fuzzbubble? yeah fuzzbubble. all gone, never to be heard from again. if this nigga aint in it for himself then who is? how can you knock 50 when puffy is still breathin

Hey fuck you mothafuckas man, shit I'm Diddy and I could give two shits about what you say, damn, matter of fact I gotta take a huge shit right now, oh no wait that's Loon with his head in my ass tossing my salad, dammit loon, stop it not right now baby, I'm trying to drop some carnal knowledge to these cats, oh yeah can you bring me my proactive?, I hafta preserve my sexy for you! Oh yeah back to y'all stupid li'l niggaz and bithes out there running y'all mouths, I did tell Black Rob to do what he did I got mind control over him. Bad Boy g'on always be here we aint went nor are we going anywhere eva! "Yea, yea, take that, take that", y'all be on the look out for my new artist or should I say my new group, The Full Fledged Ass Raped Gangsters, that shit g'on be hot ta def yo! And cop my new fragrance Unforgivable and coming soon my newest fragrance "Cursed"

Man fuck diddy, he lame anyway, he reminds of Ludas' Big Chain Records skit
off of DTPs' first album, he gave all his artist all the ice, the plastic,
colored aluminum and patent leather outfits but didn't give them success now he trying stay rich by dropping unreleased B.I.G shit, c'mon homie that's lame just like suge was doin with Pac and still is! Fuckaz! Plus, Diddy a str8 fuck boi anyway, aint do shit when shyne ended up in prison just left a nigga on stuck just like tha busta ass nigga diddy is! And what happened to Boyz in tha Hood? Aint heard shit from em since they first single, damn another lost cause off of Bitch Boy records! Fuck diddy and his Bitch Boy Records label and quit walking round blue ragz around ya face like you gangsta and shit fool, I aint no gangsta but I'm a Cali boy and that blue rag u always wearin' is in our Cali culture punk ass nigga! I'm out, oh yea peace to my 7-4 homiez out on Low end of the Chi, my 4 Corner hustling homiez out on the westside, K-town! West Coast all up in these otha mothafuckaz mouf! "If u live on the westside of yo' town, make them otha fools bow down!"

Well now it's time to show your support to Black Rob and start wearing some FREE BLACK ROB t-shirts @ http://www.FreeBlackRob.com

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