Last week Harlem M.C. Black Rob was informed by a judge that he'd be spending the better part of the next 7 years in jail after failing to turn himself in to police back in January. Last year he was convicted of grand larceny for an incident at a Manhattan hotel, and was supposed to begin serving a 2 to 6 year sentence, but never showed up and a warrant was issued for his arrest.
I feel for Rob because although his last album didn't do to well commercially, I've heard some pretty good things about it from nearly everybody who's heard it. This also marks the loss of the last big name East Coast M.C. that Diddy had on the Bad Boy roster. He always has that kid Aasim but he's got along way to go with his career, and Puff's attention seems to be focused in other areas at the moment.
The first thing alot of people, myself included, said when they heard about the sentence was "Damn, the Curse of Bad Boy strikes again." Sure it sounds crazy, but you have to admit, damn near every rapper signed to this label has experienced some kind of career changing incident or went through some major drama. There are The Lox and their long running issues with Puff, Shyne's situation, Mase the gangster reverend, and of course B.I.G. who sadly ended up paying the ultimate price.
It's easy to say "oh there's a curse" or "Puff must bring bad luck", but the reality is, alot the drama these artists have endured, they brought upon themselves. For example, why is a veteran artist running up in a hotel room looking to get paid like some average fool off the street? Alot of the bad luck can be chalked up to bad judgement on the part of those involved, but you still have to wonder why all of this damn negative energy surrounds nearly everybody close to Diddy.
Didn't our grannies tell us 2:
WATCH THE COMPANY YOU KEEP!
Of course, puff can't COMPLETELY be blamed 4 the downfalls of lil kim, shyne, rob and any1 else in his camp
however 1 must intelligently question why every1 falls around him and he's only making a bigger blow up.
He's opening up on Wall Street this morning because his fragrance "Unforgivable" just broke some kind of record.
Bad Boys seems 2 be synonymous 4
bids, bad deals and big's death...
Puff only is concern wit himself, his right hand man loon left n it clearly tells u da kinda man puff is. neway thats the characteristics of the black man
greed(4me alone),envy,jealousy,quick tempered,killin,ignorant, awhole lotta bullcrap in da black race
If Puff was to pay his artists what they are supposed to be paid, they wouldn't have to dumb shit.
...ohhH and to top it all off, Loon is driving a Maxima... now, thats a curse
Dylan spits hott fire mon, but He gets no love.
Chopper lost his house, I bet you Diddy had something to do with Katrina, probably the house insurance was on his name.
Yo all every body has to do is read Mase book, if u don't want to surport him, go to the library and read it for free..
He explained why he left the game, all the women he had
Cam and him being best friends back in the day
the curse of bad boy
You can not blame that man changeing his life around after u reading the book
And you will also learn how powerful God is. because Foxy told Mase she was going to leave the game also, but didn't follow up, so now u see how foxy is.
The book is a must read,
Loon driving a Maxima... LoL. Maximas aren't so bad. It aint a Bentley, but damn; it aint a Caprice Classic either.
Dont forget his R&B artists... 112 works at a car wash now.
Total is hosting Karoake Nite at somebodys sports lounge.
Carl Thomas just stuck me up on 35th Street here in the Chi the other nite-- right behind the police station.
b5 is doing gay porn.
Dream is doing str8 porn.
And the newest Making the Band hoes have been instructed to be on Season 2 of Flavor of Love to promote their album, that will sadly never come out.
I thought I told you that he would stop.
Yep Diddy know how to get money and thats about it, he is an artist killer, him and the Row with Suge. They aint worried too much about the artist...I mean he rapes half of his artist by taking the there publishing so he getting money but the artsit isnt...I dont know why artsit still sign with dude
Its cuz puffy jerks EVERY artist hes has out of money! He only gave biggie a 25,000 advance. The nigga gotta get paid more than you or you're screwed! Tell me who else he got left to jerk? RAPE-N-U-RECORDS!!!! HE'll be rapin you , rapin you, rapin you! You cannot escape the rape!!! That niggas pockets was hurting and he tried to come up Hope he getd released early
For example, why is a veteran artist running up in a hotel room looking to get paid like some average fool off the street?
il tell u why black rob was looking to do that shit.... nigga probaly broke as hell while puff on the islands squeezing wateva cum juice he got left outta any1 else signed to Bad Boy. B.R. probaly dont like to admit it but 4 a grown ass man to do something like that with the record he got u know he starving
G-unit doesnt have that problem and never will
did yall see the proactive article...I guess diddy can't preserve his sexy afterall...lol
CAN WE PLZ BAN SHAKEEM FROM THIS CITE.GUNIT CUM BUCKET.
Diddy is a rapist and I think that was established quite some time age. I recall reading here on SOHH that 50 is in the process of trying to get Mase out the Bad Boy contract. 50 said he doesn't understand why Diddy does that, it's like he's mad at the artists - the contacts are so bad. Then to top it off, he fucks up your song with his ad-libs. I'm surprised he ain't on Young-Joc's song.
Diddy is worse than Suge and more dangerous because Suge is straightforward with his gangsta, Diddy smiles in your fucking face with a shiny suit and tries to play like he has your best interest at heart - the Lox were right...he's the devil.
You remember on Making the Band 2 Sara wanted the contact reviewed and everyone pressured her into signing it. They are all doomed, none of them will resurface.
i don't think that's really shakeem
G-unit for life 50 gives he's artists every opportunity to shine
Diddy is a walking career ender.
Look what happened to G-Dep, The nigga'a single was poppin and Puff still didn't support him.
Bad Boy ain't no label.
After Whoa Black Rob didn't get no support from puff.
And why is Puff always at some gala event and his artists are never there.
Puffy don't like black people.
don't blame diddy for his artist being broke, it's simple, you don't sell albums you don't eat, thats why alot of artist down south are independent because of all the profit they make and less over head to deal with, just as slim thug said, if he only sale a 100,000 thats 800,000 in the bank
It's called ignorance!!! Purely based on the statistic with the bad boy brand, bad boy as a record label is truthfully of no value for any artist who's just breaking ground. The practice of pillaging an artists publishing nothing new. The biggest examples of companies who did this are the original cold chillin' for you older heads, they had kool g rap and biz markie, big daddy kane and rakim at one point. Oh yeah and def jam!!!(for which now kimora spends thousands of dollars on hair coloring while these artists are struggling to even pay section 8 project rent. This is a practice that has spanned over the entire 20 plus years that hip hop has been commercially relevant. The sad thing is that rappers enter the industry as ghetto-fied idiots and then mature and once they mature they realize that they really aren't making that much money overall but what they've been seeing as number is just figures on paper and from that they get a minimal cut. Hell you have engineers who make more money from a rap album than the actual artist does. I think that's just pathetic and should serve some of the young ones in this genre to actually hit the books because not only do you get jacked in the music industry but also will end up being underpaid to do the job of someone who would be making more to do it elsewhere.
Let me start off by saying that P.Diddy is shittie. Man if you look at the history of the Bad Boy shit Puffy had a take over line up at a point the things that happen to that was bad blood, blood shed, and last but not least convitions. If I was the niggas on that label I would try to stay clean and get out. Because Bad Boy is bad business. It gets puffy money but it got u in the end.
I remember in like 1992, some news report had some special on a young entrepreneur named Sean "Puffy" Combs. He was impressive back then... but if success and money makes you jerk other niggaz around and lose respect, then I'll pass. Puff has jerked every single person who has been on his label - and I'm saying this as a former fan. I love enterprisin, and I respect niggaz about their business, but Puff ain't no better than other corporate white folks that jerk workers for their pay.
Hate 50 love 50 - I don't care one much about him one way or the other. But one thing I respect about dude (and Cam and others) is that every dude on his team is rich - and that's real. That's the kind of shit that's gonna last. My business hero is Magic Johnson; he has found a way to make serving the community profitable. Magic was paid no more than 3M as a basketball player, yet he's turned that into a 500M dollar empire. Puff has no empire, he has a plantation which consists of jerkin niggaz under him.
This dude went to the mountain top, just to realize that he has no base anymore. Yo Puff, I was a fan of your shit growing up through the early 90s, but not no more. You gotta alot of style, but no credibility anymore.
We don't believe you, you need more peoples.
After reading all these comments; only one thing came up to my mind and that's that every black person in America should go see a psychiatrist…this level of thinking is probably what keeps our people down…you have to realise that no one owes you anything….you only got 1 moms & 1 pops and that’s it….my man puff ain’t nobody’s daddy…and every deal he’s made with anyone were just business deal and that’s it…it aint my man’s job to tell his artist how to budget their pay check…it aint his job to teach rob that robbing people is illegal…it wasn’t diddy’s job to tell shyne that going clubbing all strapped up is a bad idea…it wasn’t puffy’job to tell LOX that they need to read they contract b4 signing it….he started out with nothing and become something….and just cause my man is black don’t mean that he owes your black ass something….you people need to get that fucked up mentality out of your brain…nobody owes you anything! Wake up black America just wake the fuck up!!
And just for the record I’m a Harlem nigga…so get it twisted!!!
Why is it that Carl Thomas 2nd Album was good, but didn't get any air-play was Puffy mad @ Carl about something?? He blew up Mario but left Carl Thomas
stinking, why ?
I know that Carl has a big head and all, but no matter what the actual size of a persons head is that just can't be helped/
I guess Puff thought there can be only one Big head in this corporation.
Has anyone seen the photo's of Puff on the net dancing with some guy with a lepoard cat suit on, what's really good with him anyway, he is just trying to get away with too much, he is such a sucker anyway!! Puffy sucks we should really not even support him. I rally coudln't tell what dude is anymore!!
Well said Blow...
chuck norris does not care for Puffy
chuck norris does not care about black people
chuck norris does not care about white people
chuck norris only cares about himself just like puffy
diddy maybe milking his mothafuckin artist but whose to blame if they too mothafuckin dumb to know what they contract is about, niggas need to stop gettin excited that they gettin a deal and read the mothafuckin agreement.
black rob is a fool to b doin some petty ass shit like robbin some bitch for her jewels, nigga must be addicted to crack or somethin. nigga u black rob , u can make that money else where
If you really think about all puffy's
artists have done bad commercially yet
he's rich as fuck people say paris hil-
ton is famous for doing nothing I think
that applies more with puffy then paris
but instead of gettin fucked puffy spent
his time fuckin artists I hate puffy tha
corny ass fruity nigga gets on my nerves
I can't stand em & I think if BIG was
still with us he would have left puffy
along time ago to form his own shit &
puffy would not be who he is today!!!!
By tha way if you bought this bougie
niggas cologne you deserve a slap in
ya fuckin mouth!!!
He has no kind of street cred anyway, talking about his sexy are u for real, Your sexy ??? It's one thing to be metro and all, but dude your sexy, come on now...your really pushing it and why is anyone lettin this man live by entertaining this BS, Dude really need to get checked. This is BS- Blackrob wouldnt have to steal from an average joe is Puff took care of his peoples. 50 make sure all his pep's are well taken care of, I know this first hand people may stay whatever they want but 50 make sure everyone in his camp have the same extact stuff, If you got a chain and a ring, I get a chain and a ring come on take care of your family -
His Boy Sha tell me all the time that if it wasnt for him , he would still be stuck in the hood for real they travel everywhere and they love it & there getting paid for being on tour he met so many Kings & Queens and they get alot of loved for all over, Im not a huge 50 cent fan, but I respect what kind of movement in hip hop and I love it, and he's taking so many people with him just because his heart is good
Thats fucked up.. he had this hot joint with aasim called back and forth that if given exposure was most defintely a hit
well Karma is a bitch ain't it?...Diddy and Suge can't keep a distributor or a roster with decent rap talent. But is it all Karma?
The rap game is fickle anyway-half of the people might say Diddy ain't shit now but all had the Bad Boy catalog including that disappoint Band album.
Fickle? Think about it...
Master P and No Limit '97-'99, running shit...now P is on Dancin with the Stars
Suge and the Row '92-96...after the Doggfather album-everything went downhill-Petey Pablo droppin 2010
Baby and Cash Money '97-2001...Lil Wayne's album is hot, but that's all there is...
Ruff Ryders '98-2001...I know we've had some good stuff from Kiss, but damn, that last compliation was ass...
Lets not even talk about Rocafella, Murder Inc, and many others who have died along the way...
Pour out a little liquor...
By the way--Unforgivible is not bad--didn't buy it, just loaded up on the samples when I bought something else-lol
Fake it til u make it...
Puff just takes people who won't ask questions and he can easily control. Did anybody read the second post from AHA? Didn't think so. Don't come on here disrepecting nobodies race. That ain't the characsteristics of no man, that's people period. I didn't even know Carl Thomas had a second album. And to my ole' boy akb; I got it twisted...just like you wanted stupid!
WHO GIVES A FUCK....99.9% OF THE ARTISTS ON THE BAD BOY LABEL SUCK/SUCKED..I hope you people didnt expect those artists to become legends..LMMFAO..Get real..they were only good for 1 album..
Bring Black Rob to G-Unit and he'll go Diamond.
That last BR album was hot as hell. It sucks that it didn't get a better push. It's even worse to think that we won't see anything from BR in a long time, if ever again.
www.justcallmenom.com
If Puff was to pay his artists what they are supposed to be paid, they wouldn't have to dumb shit.
Posted by: chevy g. hustle at April 3, 2006 10:42 AM
I agree
the black community needs more dissent , hard working and inspirational people like diddy and less uneducated retards like youzzz
there is a curse at bad boy, look what happened to the top 5 rappers at bad boy, not group...
1. B.I.G-rip because of puff
2. Mase-confused because of puff
3. Shyne-jail because of puff
4. Loon-on the dl because of puff
5. Black Rob-jail(not puff's fault)
the biggest curse at bad boy is puff.
BLACK ROB TRIED TO LIVE UP TO HIS NAME
BY ROBBING PEOPLE
puff iz bad luck....y can't nobody see that.....i wuz at the basketball game in '91 at City College when those people died.....(2 me it seemed like tickets were oversold....$$$$$)after that it's all been downhill....i believe the marraige between big n faith was initially "arranged" for publicity (not saying they didn't love eachother...but they got married so fast)....i think the east/west beef was perpetuated by him....(and i wouldn't put it past him to be involved in pac's death or shooting...maybe even big...)..i think he's violent....and a thief....Big, Total, Carl, 112, Lox, Dream, Daband, Shyne, Mase, G-Dep, Rob, they all was so hungry they never saw that they were being f*cked w/no vaseline...once i saw puff on the cover of Vibe with a halo holding a Bible I knew then that he was trying to fool us into thinking he was an angel when in reality he is the opposite....don't sleep...
This might be why the 5 burroughs is losing it's GRIP
Report: black population in New York City declining
NEW YORK (AP) -- For the first time since the Civil War, the black population in New York City is declining, according to a published report.
Preliminary census estimates indicate that the city had 30,000 fewer black residents in 2004 than in 2000, The New York Times reported in an article published in Monday's edition.
Though more American-born blacks have been leaving the city than arriving since at least the 1970s, the 1.5 percent decline suggests that the arrival of black people from abroad and higher birthrates among immigrants are insufficient to keep the community growing.
While white New Yorkers are more likely to move out of the city than blacks, New York also attracts large numbers of whites from other states.
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Blacks leaving New York City are much more likely to move out of the New York region rather than to the immediate suburbs, which attract much of the departing white population. One in three black married couples with children who left the city moved to nearby suburbs compared with two in three white married couples with children.
More than one-third of these black couples moved to the South.
"This suggests that the black movement out of New York City is much more of an evacuation than the movement for whites," said William Frey, a demographer for the Brookings Institution, told The Times.
The black population declined for the first time since 1863 when blacks were attacked during Civil War draft riots.
Were any of these BAD Boy acts anything but street hoodlums before signing to BADBOY??? I mean BIG fresh from C-74, standing out in front of the buildings hustling just trying to feed his daughter.... The LOX no excuse the warlocks,ever been to YOnkers??? YIKES. Shine ...Trigger happy DOPE dealer......Black ROB....I rest my case. Puff has just finally made the masses know what artist been screaming for the past 40years.....And finally for you extra STUPID M%$#HAFUCKAS THAT HAVE NO IDEA HOW A BUSINESS RUNS!!!!!!! THE COMPANY HAS TO MAKE MORE MONEY THAN THE EMPLOYEES!!!!!!! THE ARTist are employees, if the artist made more than the Labels, what would be the incentive of owning a label??????? PUFf takes the most money becuase he's the president of the F$CKING COMPANY !!!!!!!!!!! Who do you think MAKES more MONEY..... BILL GATES or the programmers and developers that type code all day and create the software????? You answered B and Diddy has some papaer work for you to sign...
DIDDY has been known for slaving his artists...B.I.G got a 25,000 advance???are you serious????
G-dep is in rehab
Total were they at?
B.R is doing a bid
Mase came back under 50
Lox fought to get out of there contract...and after years finally own there publishing
112 no longer under him but paying him
Wheres Mario winans? Carl Thomas? The Band? Loon don't even fuck with him like that...
This nigga is a DEVIL for real he cares only about what you doing for him...niggas fall off quickly because he ain't letting niggas live...now he trying to live through BIG's name with these wack recycled bullshits every year...BAD BOY IS DONE...FUCK DIDDY
Lox fought to get out of there contract...and after years finally own there publishing
Posted by: Prophetic::Poet at April 3, 2006 02:35 PM
its their not "there"
stay in school
Puff dont owe dem niggas nothing. Black Rob goes and stick someone up and yall blame Puff? How!! Kim gets locked up and yall blame Puff? That's their dumb ass faults not Diddy's. That's like your ass robbing someone and blaming your boss cuz you dont know how to control yourself. Every last one of those people are GROWN and have a brain! I guess Whitney can blame her crack habit on her manager then huh. Take responsibility for your actions!!!!
P.s how come you guys are bad mouthing puffy hes a business man get over it
i dont care what anyone says i wouldn't sign w/diddy if he was the last record label on earth that faggot shafted everyone w/no lubrications except biggie....y u think all his artist go out and do what they in the streets cuz diddy rape they're life like enron did ya heard last words FUCK DIDDY
if diddy was payin his artist like he was supposed to they wouldn't have to do stupid shit and numerous of his artist has said that main ones the lox y think they called d-block now anytime they put a lox album out diddy still cakes off that diddy is %50 owner of there publishing which is the lox fault should've read the contract better but still diddy is foul and one day someone gonna fuck him for that period
Prophetic u said it best just brke the whole shit dwn FUCK DIDDY
This is funny that all of this is happening around the time Suge Knight is losing Death Row. I could see the end of Bad Boy Records real soon...So that being said, these are the remaining Labels of one of Hip Hop's golden years! And now, they are coming to an end...wow..
I like Puffy's entreprenuerial skills but it does seem as if a Black cloud follows anybody that has come off of that label.
He is a paper gangster and love the spotlight too much to let any artist on his label outshine him. He has robbed a bunch of people, however he has also been a trail blazer in terms of the bridging commercial success of Hip Hop and Urban culture much like Russell Simmons. He has transformed from being a dancer to building companies to the point that he does not need to record another record for the rest of his life and he will still have generations of money to pass on to his children.
We need to take a lesson from that- EDUCATE YOURSELF!Handle yoou BI! BOTTOM LINE!