Is the Judge Biased Against Murder Inc?

Yesterday the Murder Inc. trial's defense team was denied use of their "brand new" evidence. Read all the details on SOHH proper.

One statement by the judge struck me. Peep:

"This murderer and druglord was admittedly involved with your client," Judge Korman sternly said to Shargel of Supreme as he pounded his hand against the podium. "That's a fact."

As I've said many times, Irv and Chris chose to present themselves as gangstas, and they have to deal with those consequences. However, the law is supposed to applied fairly to everyone, and no man should be counted guilty by association.

So, does this statement by the judge reveal hidden bias against Murder Inc? Of course it does, ya'll. Let's not even play those games.

Posted by SOHH Hashim at November 30, 2005 04:26 PM

Comments

whatever yo , haters jus wanna see murder inc go down......and that ain't right. the judge is biased as hell and stupid as hell.

Posted by: shantell at November 30, 2005 05:04 PM

No he's not biased. The evidence has proved a relationship existed. That's all he said, which is a fact

Posted by: Tha Truth at November 30, 2005 05:13 PM

Everybody's biased against Murder inc!!!

Posted by: jrocafella at November 30, 2005 05:27 PM

all i know is before this trial i thought irv and his boys were a bunch of pussies, but after this ordeal is through, whatever the outcome, i hve a new respect for irv and company. He stood up like a man facing heavy time and still wouldn't throw preme in the pot, which i'm sure he could have did. In my opinion now, irv is a true gangster.

Posted by: $panky at November 30, 2005 05:45 PM

--"This murderer and druglord was admittedly involved with your client," Judge Korman sternly said to Shargel of Supreme as he pounded his hand against the podium. "That's a fact."

This comment struck me as well. The judge did not have to use that terminology to describe 'Supreme'. And in addition to the suppression of evidence, it does seem the judge is bias and perhaps trying to influence the jury. Hopefully justice will prevail.

Posted by: $upreme at November 30, 2005 05:50 PM

G UNIT

Posted by: fuck inc at November 30, 2005 06:02 PM

but the thing is that 50cent was in it to way i saw that i was reading the book and it that 50 had a dail with james johnson and mcgriff was know as the money guyleaving the nastier work to his nephew and secod in comand gerald "prince"miller as 50 cent spits on 2000's"ghetto quran";"preme was a businessman and prince was the killer" to understand how murderinc.came to be in the middle of the government

Posted by: kimara at November 30, 2005 06:05 PM

GGGGGGGGGG G-UNIT......R.I.P MURDER INC. HAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Fuck inc again at November 30, 2005 06:26 PM

fuck u mother fukers, irv is no snitch ass nigga . i say let them free and sum1 should murder that mother fuker 50 cent. mr interscope has and laways will be em. fuk u motherfukers.

Posted by: 4some, 50 banks your mama, yayo,mase, fuck the entire g unit at November 30, 2005 06:40 PM

they didnt do shit.

IT WAS ALL MAJESTIC!!!!!

u niggaz iz dumb as fuck

Posted by: truth at November 30, 2005 06:53 PM

irv and his brother need to be behind bars bottom line. you do the time you do the crime. people think they can do dirt and get away with it because they are famous. i hope they go to jail they are guilty. now they need to lock up that pervert r kelly

Posted by: KITTY at November 30, 2005 06:54 PM

I'm going to wrap this up wit two words? Who cares? Whe been hearing about this for weeks. For all i know them dudes is guilty. Look who they were dealin with. I'm not hatin on them but come on, ya'll know there was some drug money tied in wit their label. SOHH.Com write about something else besides this and 50 dam.

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Posted by: SORRY at November 30, 2005 07:16 PM

honestly though, would it really fukkin matter if irv and chris end up in prison??? aint like them niggas gon be doing shit anyways, even if they arent guilty....them niggas is wack...get the fukk outta hea...

Posted by: fukk da inc at November 30, 2005 07:23 PM

hahaha ppl r stupid
whenever theres money laundering, and the gov. takes the money away from the 'criminals', what do u think they do with it? burn it? haha.... nahh they put it back in the community... so basically they are washin money 2

Posted by: point at November 30, 2005 07:33 PM

no he aint being bias he keeping it real. first statement is a fucking fact.no one is denying that. second statement cancels out the first statement. what are you all reading

Posted by: Anonymous at November 30, 2005 07:38 PM


who the fuck is KITTY, this mutherfucker is nothing but a cum sucking bitch. hey if u no nothing about hip-hop or law or murder inc- shut that ass smelling mouth ..biaaaaaaatch

Posted by: idoit kitty at November 30, 2005 07:54 PM

Some niggas wit some money and a rap record label are on trial. The system is always biased espicially when some street cats are making moves. They wanna see niggas down forever, so when some finally make it, you know the judge is going to throw the book at them. America hates to see us shine!!!!

Posted by: HighLife at November 30, 2005 08:02 PM


i feel u highlife.....

Posted by: epij at November 30, 2005 08:07 PM

And FUCK ya'll h8ters saying that these niggas should be locked up. Regardless if u didn't like they music, dumb ass fools think they should rot away in prison. They were just trying to get bread for they family. Obviously whoever says that has never been behind bars. That shit is no joke. Punk bitch Kitty and all you other squares hating. You get locked up.

Posted by: HighLife at November 30, 2005 08:07 PM

Word, Kitty sounds like a SNITCH!!!

Posted by: Jrocafella2k5...again at November 30, 2005 08:22 PM

now temme whea u see bias hea?
quote: "This murderer and druglord was admittedly involved with your client"

he's locked up - that's whea murderer and druglord words come from, cuz that's what he convicted 4 - FACT
"addmitedly involved with ya client" -
means Supreme admitted to it, as prolly his criminal records tell - FACT

so look the truth in the eyes

Posted by: bayan at November 30, 2005 08:57 PM

The judge is just like the prosecutor. If Preme has served his time to society and is no longer locked up, where does she get off calling him drug dealer and murderer in front of the jury? You talk about abuse of power. Besides that, niggas in the street dont just become best friends at 28 and 30 years old. If Irv was being extorted, do you think he'd admit it? Hell no. Theyd rather lock up everyone than look at whats really goin on.

Posted by: Brizzy at November 30, 2005 10:11 PM

I hope they all get off.Including Preme. 50 makes good music but he is a house nigga that will never be truely loved in the streets like Jayz and it kills him. So he destroys whatever he can thinkin that he has power. Who couldnt snitch their way to the top? He spits names like its nothin. Who else does that? he got catchy hooks. But he couldnt role wit me.Obviously it was some street shit that you dont see in the books and movies, that got Inc and 50 beefin.

Posted by: Brizzy at November 30, 2005 10:20 PM

cdfu ya'll are some damn idots cause i tell the truth i am a snitch. i can give two fucks what ya'll say or think. they guilty they need to go to jail so i will say it again they did the crime they should do the time. now what?? and whoever said i am not angry i just get sick of people riding the dicks of celebs who do dirt. you know damn well they need to be locked up but because they are celebs ya'll dumb asses don't see shyt wrong with it. that is what is wrong with the world today mofo better wake up. i don't give a fuck who it is wrong is wrong. them niggas know they did that shyt they got caught now they need to go to jail. SO AGAIN i hope they go to jail. and whoever don't like what i said i don't care.

Posted by: KITTY at November 30, 2005 10:33 PM

i know about hip hop and murder inc that has nothing to do with it them being wrong. dummies i am cddddddddddddddfu at some of the fools on here. i bet most of ya'll still support the child molester r kelly too. i hope my girl ashanti leaves the inc nothing but trouble there

Posted by: kitty at November 30, 2005 10:37 PM


somebody should pls smack this bitch kitty out of here. this mutherfucker is just talking shit he or she knows nothing about. i know u are one of those fools thats ride dicks like a porn star.. hate or love it murder inc will free. once again kitty i shit on you mutherfucker.........

Posted by: magic stick hahaha at November 30, 2005 11:36 PM

hell nall the judge ain't biased. These niggaz were trying to be gangsta's through Pop and R&B music. They deserve whatever the fuck they get. I'm sick of this shit.

Posted by: tee draper at December 1, 2005 12:48 AM

you bet your sweet ass he is biased. If it was a white druglord like George H.W. Bush or KKK member that commited crimes, I think he would not be as vocal.

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Posted by: Ike at December 1, 2005 01:47 AM

yo if you gotta do somethin 2 feed ur family u gotta do it. u do more then that an ur good...livin it up. i dont give a fuck how they got they money 2 start the label, they ain't pusshing for Supreme, so fuck it. I hope they get let off, an i never liked Irv or Chris much. I dunno what the judge is thinkin but I guess it depends how he said it. i hope the jury knows whats up.

Posted by: kids are stupid at December 1, 2005 01:54 AM

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Posted by: gully son at December 1, 2005 01:54 AM

KITTY: I don't give a fuck what these niggas on this blog are sayin to you, I think you talkin complete shit but you know what my balls are blue right now so how's about you come round my crib and suck my dick, you know thats why they call me bigdog.

Posted by: bigdog at December 1, 2005 01:56 AM

KITTY: I don't give a fuck what these niggas on this blog are sayin to you, I think you talkin complete shit but you know what my balls are blue right now so how's about you come round my crib and suck my dick. So get on your knees bitch cos I'ma comin

Posted by: davidbeckham at December 1, 2005 01:57 AM

Why are you folks ragging on Kitty just because she thinks murderers and drug dealers should go to prison. You guys say innocent because you like their music. If a dude is guilty he's guilty simple as that, but you guys will get the point when you turn 17.

Posted by: Anonymous Kid at December 1, 2005 02:26 AM

turn 17?? more like 25,, young ass annoying kids,,, all of you, thats the reason why i stay out of these threads.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 1, 2005 02:43 AM

Nigga, true hustlers don't like to see other hustlers get popped, whether they guilty or not.

Posted by: Highlife at December 1, 2005 03:25 AM

Who up in this bitch rates UK hip-hop over American hip-hop? I for one think UK hip-hop shits all over US hip-hop.

Posted by: bigdog at December 1, 2005 04:07 AM

hol up....i wanna know this shit....why the fukk yall niggas tryna argue with a girl???? yall really looking like pussies tryna talk shit to a GIRL....bitches....anyways....dem niggas fukked with preme...they shoulda known this shit was coming...i mean who the fukk, fukks with preme and think that its legit??? get the fukk outta hea....and one mo time....yall niggas, quit tryna argue with girls....damn

Posted by: fukk da inc at December 1, 2005 04:44 AM

Kids are stupid.....you know what nigga...yo ass is stupid....just cuss you aint pushing fo preme dont mean you aint did shit wrong....dem niggas chris and irv fukked up by even fukkin preme and using that drug money...simple as that...that money is not legit, therefore, they ass is fukked....

Posted by: fukk da inc at December 1, 2005 04:47 AM

Highlife I feel what you are saying. But I'm not a true hustler I'm just a black young man. I hate to see black men and women or anybody hardworking build something up just to be ripped apart, but these dudes tried to kill somebody: "he was squiriming." Now that was hard to type cause I don't really like The Inc anymore, don't get me wrong I used to think Ja was nice, hell I even think he is better than 50 when he wants to spit something. But it is what it is. There's princibalities.

Posted by: Anonymous Kid at December 1, 2005 06:17 AM

man this shit is simple. ask your self one question, "do murda inc make good shit?" and the answer to that is "Hell no" how the fuck could any one ever care about that shit.

Posted by: opus at December 1, 2005 07:53 AM

G-UNIT RULES OVER MURDER INC....BYE LOSERS =)

Posted by: 2pac soldier at December 1, 2005 08:31 AM

cddddddddddddfu i am no kid i am grown and ya'll can say whatever you won't about kitty it don't matter. just let me know i struck a nerve just goes to show the truth hurts.just so sad that some of you are so ignorant. they can argue it just shows there ignorance and how young they are, like i said the truth hurts kitty struck a nerve.lol

Posted by: KITTY at December 1, 2005 03:08 PM

Personally, i dont think it was completely biased. It was biased in his hand gestures where he was saying that Preme was a client of the INC. he could've said the same thing without pounding his fist. When you do a hand gesture like that, it influences the jury in the sense that they know Preme is a murderer and a druglord, so know they will most likely assume that INC was started through drug money.

That being said, it was not biased because what he said was fact. Preme was/is known as a druglord and also has the murder case to face soon.

As for the INC and the Lorenzo brothers' futures, if they are innocent they will do big things. They will most likely head over to Atlantic.

And for people who think that the INC was potentially the only label to start through drug money (note the word potentially), it is almost a guarantee that mst of these other labels weren't started through totally clean money either.

Posted by: Z Dogg at December 1, 2005 03:46 PM

Actchully, theirs problem is that they got busted, they could not cover up they shit enouff to not draw feds attenchun to theyselves, and this is what got me disrespecting them, not being smart enouff.
So in this respect they som like low rank runners for Supreme.
I got no prob with what they may have done, but i'm laughing at them niggas for being busted.
As we say in russian: u ain't thief as long as u ain't busted

Posted by: bayan at December 1, 2005 04:21 PM

This case was very interesting, to say the least, and after watching this case, reading 50's book and watching the movie, I definitely have different opinions on everybody involved. First, before all of this I was really starting to think 50 was going to far, I mean a battle is a battle but to try and destroy someone's career and try to blacklist from the industry by attacking anyone that associates with them, from other rappers, to djs, to radio stations and even producers seemed extreme to me but after all these revelations I now realize that 50's revenge was, and is, justified. If someone killed my mom, tried to kill me, stabbed me, and tried to keep me from eating, there would be hell to pay. I definitely would do more than just write a song about it. So I feel he is justified in retaliating in anyway he sees fit. That leads to my second opinion, 50 can never say he's gangsta, if after all they did to him, the best he can do is make diss records then he may be a great artist but he's definitely not a gangsta! On GP alone 50 should've merked a nigga or two but he's rich now so if laughing at the "window shoppers" is his revenge then so be it. About Murder Inc., I honestly thought they were pussies but I have to say they showed character throughout this ordeal. They took it to trial, that alone takes balls. They didn't snitch, that's what they were suppose to do but that, nonetheless, shows character on their part. About the money laundering, I feel that's bullshit. Scarface said it best, "this country was built on washing money". The Rockerfellers, mobsters, whites, etc have all washed their money. Let's be honest this trial was in retaliation for the Lorenzos not cooperating with the FEDS, plain and simple. Wherever there's illict business they'll be money laundering but they choose who to go after, and we all know it's open season on Hip Hop right now. But while I feel that the charges on this particuliar charge are bullshit, I still feel that Murder Inc's involvement, encouragement, or rejoicing in 50's murder attempt was wrong and they should pay for that. How can you sit there and be happy at the murder of someone who has done nothing to you but diss you on a record, to me that's crazy. If they wanted 50 killed then why didn't they do it themselves, which takes me right back to where I started which is that Murder Inc are pussies, for sitting on millions, in a big office with all their platinum plaques and typing on their 2way about how happy they are that 50 had been killed, over bullshit. 50 was no threat to them at the time, he had no deal and no one outside of his hood knew who he was. It's funny though how their attempts to kill 50 actually created a monster out of him and catapulted him to the position he is now while they've declined to the point where the best thing that can happen to them is that they don't go to jail. Karma is a motherfucker and shit will come back to bite you in the ass. But still I believe that they're gonna get off on this money laundering charge but I wouldn't be surprised if they reopen the case on 50's attempted murder and that'll really be interesting, to say the least. To see how they explain their involvement in what would've been another senseless murder of a black man over nothing.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 1, 2005 04:34 PM

I believe they are guilty, but still what the judge said wasn't called for.

Even though I think they are guilty, there is not enough evidence to convict... lets see if they go the way of o.j. and michael or the way scott peterson.

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Posted by: LearnToSpell at December 1, 2005 06:08 PM

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Posted by: Bayan at December 1, 2005 06:21 PM

i don't know why they are making this a big deal? i'll tell u that almost all the record labels got their money from drug money or whatever ......what da hell? whenever stuff like this involves black pple it becomes a problem......whereas we all no some other pple that are not black have done worse thingz and are not even facing nothing........yo the gotti brothers should not go to jail......whatever it is pple just wanna see murder inc go down.....but guess what? they ain't going noo where .......all of u pussy ass niggaz that are coming here to spit that nonsense those gorillaz say......i think i like it better when it is gggggggG-NOT, GGGGGGGGU-AIN'T GGGGGGGGGGG-U WILL NEVER BE. bunch of faggot gorillaz in one group........some one needs to shut dat fucker 50 cents up coz he hella talkin too danm much......may be if they shoooot his mouth again we would be free from his infected mouth for the main time...... and if he keeps talkin someone gonna fuck him up real bad.

Posted by: shantell at December 1, 2005 06:28 PM

What I find to be very amusing is that everyone has something to say about something that they know nothing about. If half of you had the ability to comprehend what you were reading you would not have to make assumptions. First, Supreme is not a "convicted" murder he has only been charged and will go to court on this charge in March of 2006. Second, since everyone of you believe that 50's word is gospel have any of you been paying attention to the fact that HE said the Hommo (a cleptomanic) is the one who shot him and oddly enough got shot 2 weeks later for something that supposedly had nothing to do with the shooting of 50. Thirdly, for the idiot who says that the Inc. was stupid for getting caught and not covering their tracks pay attention to once again to the words of the man that so many of you think of as god, 50 said in the lyrics of one of his songs that Preme was really the head of Murder Inc. and when the Feds questioned him he told them "Just listen to my lyrics and you'll find the answers to all of your questions". And since all of you seem to be referring to 50's movie his problem with the Inc is that they didn't give him a deal. As for 50 being a "gangster" please remember that he took his name from a real ganster name 50 and is living his life through the reputation of someone else. So the next time you form an opinion about something make sure that you have all the facts. Just reading the words in the newspaper means nothing if you have NO comprehension skills.

Posted by: Get The Facts at December 1, 2005 06:46 PM

oh if this is so they even mo stupid than i thought according to 50 qouted by u
in any case u broke it down 4 us real clea
thank u mista

Posted by: Bayan at December 1, 2005 07:19 PM

The Inc. has never done a thing for me or my family... If Gotti & brother gets off, they still wouldn’t do a think for me and my family... My point is I don't care about the outcome.

But from reading and watching the media outlets I don't see how they can get off.. They are automatically guilty by association.. It just seem like overwhelming evidence showing Preme was in their pocket or The Inc. in his… Any way you call it… White Collar crime was being committed…

I have never spent a day behind bars, nor do I wish to. But if you commit a crime you must do the time..
Phuck that gangsta chit... and no snitching... You phuck with me or my family...POLICE IT WAS DAT NI@@A RIGHT THERE....

I see a lot of hatin on 50 now... 2-3 yrs ago I see the same folks hatin on Ja Rule... Hip Hop followers are so fickle...

Posted by: Tony Da Ant at December 1, 2005 08:55 PM

CCHHHHHUUUUCCCHHHH tony da ant tell em

Posted by: kitty at December 1, 2005 09:44 PM

Kitty, you go girl/guy. This thread is hilarious, you have wanna be gangsters/wanksters this and that. Truly hilarious. Dudes trying to rag a girl, wheres your manners. Theres this little book called a DICTIONARY. Its really useful when you need to learn how to SPELL. Ebonics is a crutch for illiteracy - try to self educate like Brother Malcolm. Kitty holler at a player.

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moh fuckaz been tryin to make this a pick up blog o som
r u dat desperate?

Posted by: Bayan at December 2, 2005 06:10 PM

moh fuckaz been trying 2 make a pick up blog o som
r u dat desperate?

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