MR. IRREVERENT
"I love Hip-Hop; I just hate the niggas in it"
Jay-Z: Who's Getting Called Out [Part 1.5]
This wasn't on the agenda for today, but I want to clarify an important FACT about Jay-Z if he were to go at 50 Cent. Hopefully, Jay-Z is reading this and won't body himself because HISTORY has a horrible way of repeating itself.
RAP HISTORY 301
Every day since 2001, we have all gone back n' forth about who won between Nas vs. Jay-Z. Depending on who you like will determine your answer. Face it, this conflict will never have one answer. I mean, to date, people still debate Big Daddy Kane vs. Rakim.
However there are certain facts that both sets of stans must take into consideration. Nas Stans have to admit that Nas was falling off since It Was Written. If it wasn't for Jay-Z going at Nas, he might still be falling. To think there could have been albums worst than Nastradamus. Jay-Z Stans have to admit that Jay didn't finish Nas. If anything, he injured him. Nas healed up and dropped Ether and the rest is HISTORY.
Personally, between Takeover and Ether, I thought Takeover was the better dis record. One fact-telling verse vs four verses of poetic ramblings. There is nothing factual about Dame-Diddy or is he Dame-Dummy.
With that said, I feel that if Jay-Z is going to go at anyone, it should be and will be 50 Cent. It stands to be the most logical and for Jay-Z, the most profitable and the most logical. If Jay wasted his time with anyone else it would just be extra bodies for no reason.
Jay needs to put 50 Cent in a duffle bag. Make him go away. He has to do to Curtis Jackson what he did to Ballerina P but no coming back. And make sure that his band of merry men get the message. However, there is one problem. Eminem.
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Hov dont care About Em he would smash em in a battle he's bringin nas on stage he gonna have the Lox out there noone wants to fuck with defjam after he signs roots, nas, jada, styles p, sheek theyll all smash eminem the lox been killin 50 i havent heard nothing from g-unit yet since they been gettin toasted. wow!!! window shopper and emotional was some r&b diss tracks
Em was a battler before Jay was a rapper.He came in second place in the NATIONAL rap battle competition.He single-handedly took down the Source Magazine(BY HIMSELF).Remember,that was the rap bible.I personally would never imagined it not being around.Em's lyrics are fire.Also to mention highly intellectual.Jay once called him in a Vibe Magazine article "The Rappers Rapper".He said he even learns from Em. And dont forget the song "Renegades" from the Blueprint album,in which Nas stated on "Ether","Em murdered you in your own song".Two greats give him props. So you have to admit THE WHITE BOY WILL ROAST YOU.
If i waz jay, i wudn't go at 50, not tht jay couldn't handle tht battle, but shits changed since the nas n jay beef, now if 2 rapperz go at it, its very rare for there camps to stay out of it, and if it waz to escalate to tht point, Interscope wud piss, spit and shit all over Def Jam. True Story!!!
for the dude that said em was battling before jay was rhyming learn you facts jay went at ll back in the days jay is not new to this he has been spitting since the original flavor days
the raw, Em was a battler before Jay was a rapper? Check your facts. Jay was on videos rapping before Em started to rap with his uncle at the talent show. Jay was rapping for Big Daddy Kane, Jaz-O, with DJ Irv. Dude, Em is a great battle rapper, but Jigga is Mr. International Business Man. Nas won the battle with Ether, but Hova won the War, ask Carmen. Em is great, but when it comes down to it Jigga is superior. Day by Day Em's buzz gets weaker, Night by Night Jigga's business savy gets stronger.
like i said before. Em is sick Jay is sick. ONLY reason ( i think ether ate hov up ) EM "murdered jay on his own sh*t", was because of the simple fact: Em wrote.. Jay freestyled. And the funny thing is I can almost BET someone tried to tell jay-z to write a lil somethin down cus em gonna take the ball and run with it. but hes like the hell with that.. did he even listen to the song after it was finished. em stole the show.
wut im sayin is. if jay is gonna go after g unit "singlehandedly" (which is no where near IMPOSSIBLE for ur boy.. its almost a cool lil test of strength), hes gotta be prepared to break his own rap vow to keep it cyphered..
but thats the thing. even if he WERE to destroy em, they'd be like "em is the only rapper that made jay-z write" or some stupid crap like that.
i dont even know why im messin with this at 10 in the morning on a sunday, but this is REALLY interesting. i really hope this does somethin for hip hop. tired of young jeezy already
So is it only me who thinks AZ murder Nas on Life's A Bitch? I mean, AZ came hard and fast.
Em will lyrically destroy jigga, im sorry but the dude has way outdone jay album sales worldwide. FACT: Eminem has sold over 65 million albums worldwide and is the greatest selling rapper of all time, Jigga a great rapper has sold 30 mill worldwide, i don't think its smart if jigga goes at 50 for one besides the game bulshit shady/aftermath/gunit is the tightest and most loyal to each other and is blowing defjam away for about 5-6 years straight its a bad situation for jigga because he would crumble......and em did fuck him up on jays shit (BLUEPRINT) Interscope will smoke def jam period! Fuck the lox its all about paper not cred, music is motivated by money not cred, its the sounds, not what niggas from the hood think that sell. There are people other than niggas in the hood that listen to rap and 50 and em are killin everybody hate it or love it. Jiggas great but even he can't stop interscope from gettin its paper!SSSHHHaaaddy AFTERMATH GGGGGGGGGGGG-unit numbers don't lie mothefuckers!
SOME OF YOU CHILDREN NEED TO DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT WHO'S BETTER THAN WHO. JAY-Z IS FIRST-AND-FOREMOST A BUSINESS MAN BEFORE HE'S A RAPPER. HE ADMITTED HE DID NOT WANT TO MAKE ANYMORE ALBUMS AFTER REASONABLE DOUBT, BUT TOOK THE DEF JAM MONEY FOR "IN MY LIFETIME" AND DID HIS THING. SO WHEN IT COMES TO RAPPIN, JAY IS GREAT IN ALL RESPECTS BUT SOME CAN EASILY SEE THAT JAY BORROWED SOME OF NAS' FLOW COMBINATION AND SOME OF BIGGIE'S SWAGGER WHEN HE MADE REASONABLE DOUBT. NAS OFFICIAL DEBUT CAME OUT IN '94 AND BEFORE THEN JAY-Z WAS RAPPIN LIKE THE FU-SHNICKENS (THE FAST-AND-SLOW, SPEED IT UP THEN SLOW IT DOWN DELIVERY FLOW. GO CHECK THE RARE TAPES OF "I CAN'T GET WIT THAT" OR THE SONG "IN MY LIFETIME" ALL AROUND '93/'94) AFTER '94 IN '96 JAY-Z ALTERED HIS FLOW BECAUSE HE SEEN NAS AS A CHAMPION (JAY SAID IN "WHERE I'M FROM": WHO'S THE BEST MC's, BIGGIE, JAY-Z, AND NAS) AND B.I.G AS BROOKLYN'S HERO. AFTER BIGGIE DIED THEN JAY-Z FELT HE COULD COME-UP AND TAKE OVER RAP WITH A COCKY FLOW AND PLATINUM ALBUMS, ESPECIALLY SINCE NAS' FAME STARTED TO DECLINE.
ANYBODY WHO KNOWS RAP CAN SAY JAY-Z AND NAS ARE BOTH LEGENDS BUT NAS WAS A LEGEND BEFORE JAY-Z AND NAS GAVE JAY INSPIRATION (EX. "DEAD PRESIDENTS"). SO I THINK NAS REALLY WON THE BATTLE WITH JAY. THE TAKEOVER WAS SHORT AND A GOOD ATTEMPT AT TELLIN FACTS BUT NOT ALL OF JAY-Z RHYMES WAS FACTS AT ALL (NAS DROPS AN ALBUM EVERY TEN YEARS?? MORE LIKE EVERY OTHER YEAR). SO COMPARING JAY-Z VERSE TO NAS' HAS TO BE ON AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD. NAS GAVE IT A LONGER OUTLOOK AND LYRICALLY MURDERED JAY IN EVERY ASPECT OF THE GAME, ESPECIALLY STATING HOW JAY CAME UP FROM JAZ-O, TO KANE, TO IRV, THEN HOPED ON BIGGIE REAL QUICK, SO NAS WAS TELLIN "SOME" FACTS. AND EVERYTHING AFTER THAT WAS A DONE DEAL BECUZ THAT JAY-Z "SUPER UGLY" SHIT WAS SO STUPID BECAUSE YOU COULD SEE THAT JAY WAS ANGRY THAT NAS MURDERED HIM WITH ETHER SO HIS LAST RESORT WAS A "LOW-BLOW" TALKING ABOUT FUCKIN DUDE BABY-MOMS, THAT WAS A CHEAP SHOT (JAY CAUGHT FEELINS).
JAY-Z DID RESTORE NAS CAREER BUT NAS WAS ALREADY POSITIONED AS A LEGEND BUT JUST LOST FAVOR WITH THE CROWD (PLUS NASTRADAMUS WAS WEAK AS SHIT). BUT JAY CAME UP BUSINESS MINDED, KNOWING THAT PUTTING OUT CLUB SINGLES AND MAKING CATCHY TUNES LIKE "BIG PIMPIN" WOULD BOOST HIS RECORD SALES, SO HE RAN WITH THAT ASPECT INSTEAD OF STAYING TRUE TO HIS "REASONABLE DOUBT" MENTALITY. SOME PEOPLE ARGUE THAT NAS TOOK THE SAME COMMERCIAL ROUTE AS JIGGA BUT THAT WASN'T UNTIL NASTRADAMUS WITH "YOU OWE ME" BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT IT REALISTICALLY NAS WAS KEEPIN IT GANGSTA AND GIVING HIS INSIGHT TOWARDS THE GAME SINCE ILLMATIC, EVEN "I AM..." GAVE US HELLA CLASSICS LIKE "I WANNA TALK TO YOU" AND "NAS IS LIKE", WHO COULD PUT OUT NAS' FLAME ON THAT????
WELL, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR JAY-Z TO COME BACK DISSIN ALL THESE WEAK ASS RAPPERS THAT ARE OUT NOW BUT IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, HE'LL REALLY BE PROMOTING THEM BECAUSE MOST OF WHITE AMERICA WHO DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT HIP-HOP BEEF WILL PICK UP THE OPPOSING RAPPER'S LATEST CD TO HERE IF HE WILL HAVE A RESPONSE TO JAY'S DISSES WHICH JUST PUTS MORE MONEY IN THE OTHER RAPPERS POCKET SINCE JAY AINT DROPPIN NO ALBUM, YA DIG?... IT'S ALL LOGIC- JUST THINK ABOUT IT
I thought this was about Jay POSSIBLY going at 50? As far as Em....Yeah he nice, I must agree. As far as him taking down the Source, no he didn't do any of that. The Source has been having internal strife for YEARS(just ask Elliot Wilson, Sacha Jenkins, Selwyn Hinds and other former Source employees). It was bound to come down. As far as that other comment about Em battling before Jay was a rapper; I know you're obviously an Em fan and that's your business but don't be dense about it. You acting like you KNOW these cats, like you grew up in Marcy with Jay or in The D with Eminem. Now back to the 50 thing, Ol' boy is right. It would HAVE TO BE something he CAN NOT possibly come back from like he did Prodigy 4 yrs ago. I thought Nas was done until he came back with Ether. As far as G unit jumping in, who cares. Yayo is garbage, no one pays Mushmouth(Lloyd Banks) or Young Buck any mind either. Besides I doubt Jay is gonna go at them anyway. I know this is dead but Jay going at Game would have been Bleek's declaration as an punk for not standing up after being dissed repeatedly for nothing by this cat.
SOHH,
YES, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT THINK THAT AZ MURDERED NAS.
YOU GUYS ARE RIDICULOUS WITH ALL THE COMPARING ARTIST AND ALL THE WHAT IF'S.
JAY IS ABOUT BUSINESSS OWNERSHIP AND TRYING TO BECOME A BILLIONAIRE.
IT'S OBVIOUS IF SOMEONE KEEPS TALKING ABOUT YOU, SOONER OR LATER YOU WILL SPEAK UP UNLESS YOU A COWARD.
LISTEN TO THE NAS LYRICS ON "WE MAJOR" ON THE NEW KANYE WEST ALBUM. NAS HAS BEEN IN THE GAME FOR 15 YEARS. NAS HAS SEEN ALOT OF ARTISTS COME AND GO. EVERY ALBUM HE HAS DROPPED HAS WENT EITHER GOLD OR PLATINUM.YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET REAL AND HONEST WITH YOURSELF.
SOHH,
NAS CAN NEVER FALL OFF AND JAY DIDN'T HELP IS CAREER AS FAR AS ALBUM SALES OR FINANCIALLY. IT ONLY MADE PEOPLE WANT TO GET TO KNOW NAS AND WHAT HE IS ABOUT.
ALOT OF NAS FANS ARE DEAD OR INCARCERATED. WE DEALING WITH DIFFERENT YEARS AND ERA OF MUSIC. NAS BACK THEN RAPPED ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE STREETS IN THE EARLY TO MID 90'S. NOW IT'S ALMOST 2006, SHIT HAS CHANGED. ARTIST GET OLDER, MORE CONCIOUS OF THEIR MUSIC AND THE MESSAGES THEY ARE SENDING. YOU CATS ACT LIKE ARTIST DO NOT GROW UP OR CHANGE.
50 WILL NEVER SELL ANOTHER 11 MILLION RECORDS. 50 CAME WHEN PEOPLE WANTED TO HEAR SOMETHING NEW AND THE TIMES WERE DIFFERENT. BACK IN THE 90'S EVERYTHING WAS LOVE. 2000 AND UP PEOPLE ARE JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE AND GET BY. OUR COUNTRY AT WAR, WE HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE STILL AMERICA, THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICH AND POOR IS HUGE. EVERYBODY NOW WANTS TO SELL DRUGS, GET HIGH,GET PUSSY, AND PARTY. THAT SHIT DOES NOT GET YOU ANYWHERE. EVERYONE KNOWS GANGSTA'S DO NOT LIVE LONG. EITHER THE GRAVE YARD OR INCARCERATION. ITS YOU SILLY CATS THAT BELIEVE THESE ARTIST ARE OUT THERE SLANGIN AND BANGIN EVERYDAY WHEN IN ACUTALITY THESE CATS FUN IN THE SUN MAKING MILLIONS OFF TELLING LIES TO YOU.
AT THIS POINT AND TIME IN LIFE, IT'S SHOULD BE ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE YOU ARE LIVING.
SELLING DRUGS IN THE STREET, ILLICIT SEX, CONSTANT PARTYING, NEGLECTING YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS. DOES NOT MAKE YOU A CHILL PERSON OR MAKE YOU A BIGGER PERSON. IT JUST SHOWS HOW STUPID YOU ARE!!!
BIG UP TO ALL THE ARTIST THAT ARE NOT MISLEADING THEIR FANS.
As for the cat talking about record sales....sit down somewhere with all that. record sales don't make you tight. They do wonders for the bank account, that's true. case in point: get Rich or Die tryin' sold 10 million worldwide while The Black Album sold close about 4 million domestically(in the US). While 50 1st album sold a lot of units, would you REALLY say it's better than the Black Album or the Blueprint which sold 4 million too? I don't think so. Y'all get so caught up in the quantity of sales that you ignore the quality of the product. Would you REALLY say that Encore was better than Jay's last album? I heard Encore and it's trash even by Em's standards. Stop being influenced by Billboard stats,radio,MTV and BET and decide for yourself what's hot or not.
Listen, if Jay were to go at 50. I promise you no one from Shady or Aftermath would get involved. The last thing that Em would need after calling black women "moon crickets" is to go after a well respected MC. Eminem will not go lyrically attack someone who is well respected like Jay-Z. Eminem didn't even go after Game, why would he go after Hov? G-Unit will, because they have to defend their meal ticket-and who in the G-Unit camp can fuck with the King of New York? Honestly, I want Jay to get at 50. He's the hottest in the game right now and it takes a nigga like Jay to make him shut the fuck up.
By the way, has anyone noticed that Tony Yayo's album is rapidly falling off the charts? After 6 weeks, it's number 87 and hasn't even hit gold status yet. Kinda makes me wonder what Mase's, M.O.P.'s and Mobb Deep's sales might look like in the future. 50 might keep on selling, but maybe he'll have a harder time making his artists into superstars
Jay-Z didn't lose a battle in 2001 against Mobb Deep or Nas, and both of them are better than 50. 50 is just a coward, he hasn't bothered to comeback properly to Nas, Jada,Fat Joe or The Game, even after starting the beef... and u think he's on Jay-Z level? Hope not. Em wont get involved- i mean he didnt against Jada, Joe, Game or NaS. So dont worry bout that.
As for Takeover v. Ether, why was Ether better. Sure it was more fierce, but lyrically it werent as good as Takeover or Superugly, and the fact that NaS was jus making Harsh jokes instead of actually saying facts shows his weakness.
What does album sales have to do with how good someone is lyrically.Just because 50 has sold "50 millions" records doesn't make him good at word play because hes not. Can any of recall when yall had to rewind in a middle of a song because he said something that made you actually think. He isn't good at all. His is one of the greatest at making a song, but he is even faling off with that(his songs all sound alike). If Jay was to go at him it would kill(50)his career because every. He can't go at someone of Jay's caliber. He only won the battle between Ja(which i think he lost) because of humor. He can't get funny with Jay because he is to respected. Em wouldn't say anything cause him and 50 are going through something with each other right now anyway. Jay is to real for 50. What did the "GOAT"say on Jeezy's song ..."Noone pulled my coat yet and i keep my shit in coat check"..By the way My man Hurricane ended G-Unit. look at Yayo's sales. To bad for Oliver, Boob Deep, Ma$e(hahaha) and M.O.P.( i like them)
Where do I start. Nastrodamus was a bad album, no disputing that. I guess folk forgot that that album was so bad becusase bootlegers got a hold of his shit via internet and was kiliing his album before it came out. Those songs on that album were comprised of garbage hits he didn't want to release. That Nastrodamus album was supposed to be a double disc. It was garbage, only because his good shit was bootlegged months in advance. The shit on the lost tapes were supposed to be on that Nastrodamus. He released Sillmatic, and then released the lost tapes. Think of the shit like Tupacs situation. All that garbage on the radio now was shit that he didn't want to release becuase it was subpar. Nastrodamus was just that. Most of it was spurt of the moment. Quality takes time which he didn't have.
Secondly, Jay-z won the battle based on fact's? Go to bed with that shit. Exageration was a keen basis for the shit he said. It was cool but, facts got stretched. Nas attacked Jay on a personal level. Shit that those two niggaz knew about, and then put it out there for the niggaz who didn't know.
Wasn't shit poetic about it. Nas diss track was a straight personal wound.
As for Gene. Album sales make you rich. Unless your rapping about that puffy shit go somewhere with that garbage. You must be one of those I listen to whatever the radio play's folk. If you truly listen to hip-hop you'd know it matters wether or not what your saying has any relevance to your audience. Those cat's like the lox aren't in the shit for the money. They are in it for the love of the music and the niggaz that listen to them. Thats real shit. I could put out a garbage c.d and push atleast 4 mill world wide and that shit wouldn't make me tight.
Take a nap with the numbers. Numbers don't make the rapper, lyrics do stupid. Timbaland and Magoo have probably pushed more records than Rakim and Rakim is by far the supperior of those other two fucks. Em won't Destroy Jay neither. Em raps about bullshit 70 percent of the time. The only time He puts down some heat is if he has an agenda to talk about. Jay always got real shit for yah. No matter the occasion. Jay would hand em his ass. Em would ramble on about nothing that sounds good and Jay would hit him with shit that sounds good and a basis.
Don't put def jam in the mix. You mean Rocca fella. ShadyAftermath/ and G-unit (not the new recruits) only have but a hand full of decent rappers. Em is probably the best out of the bunch. If you want to use Def Jam as a whole go through the complet roster. D12 would get pissed on, and G-Unit would get pissed on. Don't equivalate record sales with skill. They are not the same. Besides the most skilled lyricist on interscope (including the sister labels) is Rass Kass. Most folk are sleep on cuzz, but it's true. Hearing Rass and Em on a track would be sick.
Besides I hate to say it. If Em was black white america wouldn't have clung to him the way they did, and lets face it white america buys the majority of the Rap records in this country. World wide, it's a white world. Let's take everything into perspective. Not saying he can't spit, or that I don't like his shit but it's a cold fucking fact.
If Em was black you could cut those numbers down by atlest 50%. Jay is still the man. Corporate or rapping. No one is getting close to cuzz's hustle, and rapping only a handfull could get with him. Jay will come correct with his assault. He's to polished not to.
Glad some of you folks realized what I was saying about cats thinking record sales make them the illest in the game. I agree with the Em assessment. If he was one of us then he DEFINITELY would have to chop those numbers in half and yes White America would not have clung to him like that.
You bitches need to stop being so emotional. Dont let the feelings you get overwhelm your brain's activity. Nas vs Jay was a great battle. Nas did not win the battle, he simply proved he's not a chump or washed up.
TakeOver was a track in which Jay had a verse for Nas, Nas made a whole track towards Jay. In Jay's verse, there was not one lie, not one exageration, not one metaphor that you can misconstrue. Nas' Ether was fine creative work, but Jay does not TaeBo (he boxes), or any of the shit Nas said. Go listen to the songs, Nas did fall off, Nas was irrelevant at that point, and Jay did fuck his girl. And that last note is where it got real personal and guess what? The battle ended.
As far as 50 is concerned, Jay-Z has ties to Supreme, Jay-Z did upset 50 with " No, I aint get shot up a bunch of times..", but 50 wont do shit. If 50 walked into Aftermath and said I want to battle Jay, Dr Dre and Em will both tell him to go fuck himself before Jay does it publicly. That battle would be worse than Death Row vs Bad Boy, it would last longer and there would be too many casualties. At one point or another Dre and Em would have to get involved then Jay will bring out Scarface, Bun B and whole roster of MCs niggas cant fuck with. These MCs are also not household names to 15yr old punks who really dont know shit about rap or hip hop.
Y'all think G-Unit murdered Ja Rule?, KRS merked MC Shan, that shit should've been on National Geographic, under Wars Of Concrete Jungles or something. And if you can somehow get the lyrics to that battle, you will understand why half the shit niggas spit these days is worse than canned dog food.
The reason I think Eminem roasted Jay on Renegade was Eminem laid his verse FIRST. Renegade was orignally with Royce Da 59. Eminem took out Royce and added Jay. I mean, if I was a rapper, and I went last, I believe I would have wrote some better stuff than the guy who went before me.
jay z would kill the whole of g-unit and shady. They are all too young and big headed. How many of then part from em hav had more than 3 albums. Nas and Jay dont even have beef anymore, they grown men, beef isn't there style. Pus defjam has so many artists that could destroy g-unit/shady. young jeezy, shyne, redman, ghostface, dmx. If i were 50 i would say sorry and shine mr carters shoes.
Yeah i agree i think AZ did body nas on life's a bitch!
Why should Jay go at 50?
He should end game's bitch ass career in the concert then let bleek and the gunnas redeem themselves after all the shit games been poppin.
Not for nothing im a nas fan since day 1. And the last nas album i bought was nastradamus. He just does'nt bring that fire anymore, Once jay called him out and said cause he wears a koofi does'nt mean that he's right/it just means u dont understand all the bullshit that he writes. I felt it was so true that he changed the way i look at him. To me ether was his last banger ever since then he's been kind of boring. I don't think he's finished i just think people don't care what he has to say anymore. And its true what fifty said about nas, that he cant pick out a hit single. It'll be cool to see nas sign to def jam and revive his career a bit. But i rather see AZ get signed to def jam cause he has that hustler and street persona and so much swagger that he can pick up where jay left off.
Oh and back to i declare war i would rather see jay go at game,cam,jim jones or maybe even dame cause it all balls down to dame signing camron that the roc broke up. So why not mash on the dips and see what them pink and purple wearing clowns could do under pressure...
Hova is god to these rappers. They wanted to be like him. Hov is the Ubersexual emcee, what them white folks will say about a powerful man. AZ would look great with jigga in def jam. So would Nas. Get AZ, Nas, The Lox, UGK, under the Carter Adminstration, and It's GAME OVER for everyone, G-Unit, Shady, Aftermath, Bad Boy, and anyone that gets in the way of progress.
PEACE OUT
Seriously,
Jay lost to Nas in 2001, there's no debating that fact. Secondly, if Jay and Nas do decide to get friendly they will destroy everyone in their path. I know a lot of people that come here are stans, but let's get one thing straight, only NAS has released an album that is universally acclaimed as being one of the greatest hip-hop albums EVER.
And how can people take Em seriously anymore?
Did you listen to ENCORE, that stuff was GARBAGE. And 50, he is the Britney Spears of POP-RAP.
Jay-Z/Nas collabo = INVINCIBLE
There's alot of factual errors here. Where to Begin!
Black Wallstreet: Jay said nas dropped one HOT album every ten years. Listen again champ
Gene: Eminem sold 65 mil worldwide because fans in europe see a white guy rapping and jump all over it. If a black rapper ever sells 65 million worldwide, it'll be when black people are considered the greatest race in the universe...which aint happening.
Reallifehustle: I stamp the ras kass vote. Greatest rapper in the west
And finally...where did this jay vs eminem/50/interscope beef come from to begin with?
Jay & dre are boys, Jay & Em are boys....Jay & 50 are so-so...what's your reasoning for even thinking those would be legitmate beefs?
Fact of the matter is we all know Jim Jones & Cam'ron The Pink Pansy are marked with a diamond on their chests.
Jay's bringing out Nas and The Lox. The new era of Def Jam is upon us
WHO REALLY KNOWS WHAT WAS FACT AND FICTION WITH JAY AND NAS,FACT-JAY WANTED NAS TO BE IN THE DEAD PRESIDENTS VIDEO AND NAS NO-SHOWED,FACT IF YOU KNOW HIP HOP "ILLMATIC" ARGUBLY THE GREATEST RAP ALBUM OF ALL TIMES INSPIRED EVERYONE TO STEP THEY SHIT UP AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING AND NOT USING GIMMICKS,IF YOU KNOW HIP-HOP AROUND THAT TIME EVERYONE WAS RAPPING IN FAST-FORWARD(jAY,CHECK ORIGINAL FLAV'S "CAN I GET OPEN OR"I CAN'T GET WITH THAT")NOT OPINION MR.IRREVELENT),OR RAPPING LIKE DAS EFX(THE STIGGEDY SHIT,FAT JOE,DA BRAT AND COUNTLESS OTHERS)AND ANOTHER FACT JAY WASN'T REALLY OUTSELLING NAS BY THAT MUCH UNTIL VOL.2 5X PLAT.,AND WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT NAS VS JAY,WENT IN THIS ORDER TAKEOVER,1 VERSE JUST JAY'S OPINION ON NAS' CAREER IT'S HIS OPIINION IF HE THINKS NAS ALBUMS ARE TRASH NOT FACT WHAT THE FUCK IS JAY-Z GOD?? HE STATES HIS OPINION ON SOMEONE AND WE BELIEVE THAT TO BE FACTS,AND THAT SHIT HE SAID ABOUT ETHER BEING SILLY SNAPS OR WHATEVER IS JAY-Z AND ROC-A-FELLA'S WAY TO DOWNPLAY THE LYRICAL ASS WHOOPING JAY GOT.MR.IRREVELENT GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE POSTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT UP OR GET YOUR KUFI SMACKED THE FUCK OFF,AND I'M A FAN OF NAS AND I'M CALLED A STAN YOU CLOSET TRANSEY MOTHER FUCKER I'M @ THE NAS BBS ALL DAY IF YOU WANT REPLY AND GET AN HIP HOP LECTURE
Maybe record sales rules in other genres of music and lames that listen to the radio to determine what's hot, but in hip-hop, cred is all that truly rules to hip-hop heads. That is, talk about what you live and rep that. these phony tough guys like 50 and Nelly can outsell anyone, but are these cats better than dudes like Little Brother, Common, or Gangstarr. Fuck no!
As for Jay goin at 50...who the fuck cares? Nas blew Jay-Z away with "Either" and that battle did benifit Nas, but both were established anyways and didn't need the battle to further their career. 50 is nothing but a publicity machine; he leaked those dis trachs to promote his album, and now that it sold crazy numbers, there's no reason to rectify anything he said about Nas, Fat Joe, Jay-Z, the Lox, or anyone else. J shouldn't even feed into this lame dude's games. And Em won't get involved because he knows to keep himself out of black folks' business. Em will never go at an established black cat (Benzino and Ja doesn't count)
And speaking on Em people really need to get a grip about this dude. These white folks that started listening to hip-hop a few years ago sound stupid sayin this dude is the best ever. Shit like that can get you slapped in some places. Dude is nice, but he CANNOT TOUCH cats like Andre 3000 or Big Boi, Q-Tip, Phonte, KRS, Nas, Jay-Z, and pleny of others.
jay-z is full of shit and he got shitted on by 2pac
to all them jay z dick riders on this shit just jump off allready. Jay-z was CRYIN after hearing ether for one of the first times on Angie Martinez Hot 97. She had to cut off air cos of duke an then she was then heard sayin "what the fuck happened there?!"
Now u tell me who won? its not about who's beat u nigga like or his "1" verse, its about who fucks the nigga up emotionally, who hurts who.
as for eminem, some hip hop fans, mostly white dudes who are part time hip hop fans an who u ask them who's there favourite mc they go " pac, biggie, eminem....", some of them actually know shit bout hip hop.eminem is a over-rated rapper. his 1 "classic" album isnt even a classic.
if he went after one serious mc with weight, like a nas or a jay-z, em gets murdered, specially since all this racial shit came to light.
Niggas would end all credibilty he has an after em's last album there aint much left
jay-z only got noticed because he started sucking biggies dick(if he had 1)
Takeover is PURE FACT. I got time on my hands. Let's break it down.
I know you missin all the - FAAAAAAAME!
Went from, Nasty Nas to Esco's trash
Had a spark when you started but now you're just garbage.
True story.
Fell from top ten to not mentioned at all
to your bodyguard's "Oochie Wally" verse better than yours
True story.
Matter fact you had the worst flow on the whole fuckin song
but I know - the sun don't shine, then son don't shine
True story.
That's why your - LAAAAAAAME! - career come to a end
There's only so long fake thugs can pretend
Debatable.
Nigga; you ain't live it you witnessed it from your folks pad
You scribbled in your notepad and created your life
True story. Even Cormega has said this in interviews. Nature has said this in 'Nas Is Not'. Cormega and Nature aren't the best of friends, so to hear two separate people say similar things is interesting.
I showed you your first tec on tour with Large Professor/ then I heard your album bout your tec on the dresser
Debatable. We'd need Extra P for his input on this one - like he cares.
So yeah I sampled your voice, you was using it wrong / you made it a hot line, I made it a hot song
Debatable. (I didn't think Dead Presidents was that great of a song.)
And you ain't get a coin nigga you was gettin fucked and
I know who I paid God, Serchlite Publishing
True story.
Use your - BRAAAAAAAIN! You said you been in this ten
I've been in it five - smarten up Nas
Four albums in ten years nigga? I can divide
That's one every let's say two, two of them shits was due
One was - NAHHH, the other was "Illmatic"
That's a one hot album every ten year average
True story.
And that's so - LAAAAAAAME! Nigga switch up your flow
Your shit is garbage, but you try and kick knowledge?
Debatable.
You niggaz gon' learn to respect the king
Don't be the next contestant on that Summer Jam screen
Because you know who, did you know what,
with you know who, but just keep that between me and you - for now.
True story. Carmen backs this up. Cormega backs this up in Slick Response.
Can you do the same for Ether? I don't think so.
wha tused to be hot was was what an MC said
Now hip-hop don't respect you unless you platinum or dead
-Ras Kass
Jay-Z vs. NaS is over. NaS murdered Hova and Jigga resurrected Nas. Jay-Z has sold over 33 Million records not including Unfinished Business, Streets is Watching, The Black Album (Accapela). Hova is The Greatest rapper Alive. 50 cent is a pussy wanabe R&B artist. He sang almost ever chorus on the massacre ( Current 3.7 Millions sold.). 50 sing tooo much. Jay-Z would finish 50 cent and G-Unit. If you do not know. Jay-Z freestyles on all songs. the raps are in his head. 50 cent takes 2 years to make the fucking shit The Massacre. as far as Eminem and Hova go. They are both great rappers. Hova is better. Em is more of Pop rap than Hova. Renegade is a classic. Let us never forget that. Eminem wrote raps and jay-Z spit from his head. Hova did a one take. eminem confessed in an interview that he doesn't understand how Jay-Z can create a whole rap in his head. Plus how he remains consistent is indoubtfully a big contribution to Hip Hop. People like Hova, Nas and others opened the door for new breeds like Eminem, 50 cent, T.I. Ludacris and others. Jay-Z sampled Nas Twice (Dead Presidents, and Rap Game/Crack game). But that doesn't make him lesser than NaS. Jay has more records than 2Pac did when he was alive. Little break down:
1. Hova: 10 Platinum Albums with over 33 million sold (U.S).Greatest Hip Hop touring artsit. Sold over 50 Million albums worldwide (+U.S. sales) sold out tours worldwide including in Tokyo,Japan; europe countires, south africa at Mandelas request. and even dinned at the Buckingham palace with Beyonce and The prince.. Met with Prince charles and was honored by him with a Life time achievement award in Music. GQ International Man of the Year. Want to buy stakes in Arsenal FC. Net worth over $350 Million. & Never writes his raps. King of NY and a Rap God. 4 Grammy awards including 99 Problems, Vol. 2 hardknock Life (1998 Winner for best rap album)
2. NaS: 5 Platinum albums. over 7 million album sold. Illmatic is one of the greatest hip hop albums ever created. Killed jay personally on Ether. Has hade the most worrse albums since It was wrtten and Jay reurrected him on Stillmatic. A rap Legend. No Grammy award.
3.Eminem: 3 Platinum albums. over 65 million albums sold worldwide. White rapper. 7 grammy awards
4. 50 cent: over 15 Million record sold worldwide (including The Massacre). Joined Hova's 2002 "Roc the Mic tour". Featured Jay on the remix of "If I can't. Sings to much. Signs total crap rappers (Ex. Yayo , M.O.P., Buck, Mase, and himself 50). can't act or even try and act. No Grammy award at all.
Jay-Z is A trendsetter and 50 cent and others even Em all learned their styles, ways and even flows from his legacy.
You guys are all stupid jay-z dick riders fuck him im a tupac fan Westside til i die...tupac murdered jay-z just murdered him in "Fuck Friendz" and then once pac got killed he kinda came out from hiding then biggy died and he said oh shit if can learn to make beats i can sell records...how dare that stupid fuck think hes the best rapper i dont care if he thinks alive or dead theres sooooooo many MC's out there that are better than him his beats are dope his lyrics are decent but his beats make his music hot....so for all u people who like tupac and jay-z at the same time u guys are stupid
Jay is easily one of the greatest rappers to have touched d game. Some of d insults from u guys r unbelievable.
I'll go wiv jay on dis one. 'jus cuz a nigga where a koofi it don't mean dat he bright' So yes, rappers like common, mos def, talib and so on, they are not only conscious and deep rappers but dey r extremely talented. Dat still doesn't mean that they are as/more skillful then jay. In fact none of them in my opinion(and i've listened to most rappers in the game)come close.
give the man his credit. Based on pure skill he is in my opinion the best to ever do it. I fink a lot of people discount him bcuz he has sold records, and he appeals to a larger audience thereby almost becoming a pop rapper. But being able to achieve commercial success is nothing negative, in fact 4 someone like Jay it is a show of his versatility and full-roundedness as a rapper.
So the fact is dat no matter wot rapper he goes after he will devour, like he did nas with his factually based one verse. On the topic of eminem i know he is over-rated and gets more props 4 hiz colour, but i can never ignore his skill. On his day he can battle any mc in the game competently and is definitely up dere wiv the best.
Look, the bottom line is that Eminem will never go after Jay-Z, unless Jay says his name. Eminem never said anything about the Game, and he ripped 50 apart. He is yet to say anything about the LOX, and they ALL ate G-Unit for lunch. However, I feel that if the two rappers did go head to head, it would be awfully close. It's really a toss-up. I feel both are in the top 5...ever.
Hov beating eminem? nahhh son. take a step back and think about that for a second. Eminem is THE battle rapper. Em killed ja rule not 50 cent. em killed cannibus, anyone. Em killed jayz on their Renegades track badly. there was no doubt on that record who killed it.
hov going after 50 would be hurting yourself. your retired take seat. if anything go at game
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I've read these blogs so many times and never spoke but now its time to say something. Who the hell made Jay Z a god? I'm not a Jay fan in the least but even I'll admit that he sick with his rhymes. If jay battled with a known battler like Jin (who I don't like either but respect) and he had never sold a record in his life but still rapped. Do you think he could win? Do you think he would eat him up? If jay still had the same flow but wasn't known and was just trying to come up like any other hungry rapper do you think people would say these things about him? Jay got took by Nas. And even Dame admitted that DMX took him back in the day. To say Jay is untouchable when he been hit twice is ignorant! Em was a heavy battler before he blew up. I admit that he rhymes about things I dont care about nor a lot of black people would but that doesn't make what he's saying bullshit! And I admit that Eminem does sell more records because he's white but that aint the only reason. White people flock to Em for the same reason alot of black people flock to Pac Nas Big or Jay. He talks about shit they can relate to! Tell me what Artist (if you can call them that) can voice his feelings as well as Em? Because Eminem is white he had to do more to get respect in the game. He came with sick lyrics and Dr. Dre production. He smashed countless fools in battles and for those who say he has no one credible... He called out Canibus! Canibus would eat any rapper up in a straight up battle including Jay-Pac-Nas-Big-DMX-or practically anyone else you can name! Canibus is a rapper who will never get the respect he deserves for one reason, (and this goes out to all you fools who say record sales dont count) because he aint sell twenty million records. Because you dont see him on the charts. Record sales count for alot, they are a sign of repect. Let me put this in a way some of you "thugs" may understand. If you were selling drugs on a corner that was over populated with dealers but your shit still completely outsold the competition. Thats because you have quality shit. Eminem has 4 platinum albums-65million worldwide-and he's still one of the biggest names in the game. And believe it or not, there are millions of black people buying his shit. Because he hsa quality. He has some of the best shit on the block and thats the reason people are buying it. Encore was garbage and what happened? It was his worst selling album besides his first. He lossed quality and lossed sales because of it. To say that Jay can murder Em is stupid. That would probably be the most legendary and epic battles in history! If you took away thir fame and tossed them into the ring with one mic- a djay- and crowd of strangers who have no relationship to either one. Who knows who would win. I'd put my money on Em though. I think he would just edge him out slightly. But Jay vs. 50? Do I even need to say it?
NO disrespect but EM is the most over rated emcee in the history of hip hop. He is average at best and nothing more....period. Yeah for a white boy he is good, but compared to the rest he is average if that!
am i the only one who know that the renegades track was done before jay got on it. that was a royce da 5'9" and eminem track and em has the exact same verse on it that he has on the one with jay. besides royce's verse was far better than em's so if royce could take him jay could take him. plus eminem's career has already gone to sh!t with that horrible encore album. if jay goes at eminem he's gong to come back with some dookie/balls stuff.
EVERYONE NEEDS TO REVIEW THE MIXTAPE ARCHIVES BECAUSE IT SHOWS THAT 50 CAN HANDLE WHATEVER JAY-Z SPITS OUT . ALSO ,THERE'S ONLY ONE RAPPER THAT CAN DESTROY 50'S CARREER, AND THAT'S EM. THE REASON WHY JAY-Z IS RETURNING TO THE RAP GAME IS BECAUSE HIS WEAKASS COLLECTIONS OF RAPPERS,LIKE THE YOUNG GUNZ AND BLEEK CAN PRODUCE HOT ALBUM FOR THE ROC. RIGHT NOW , 50 RUNS N.Y.C. WITH A IRON FIST. ALSO, THE REEBOK'S INVESTORS DON'T NEED THIS TYPE OF ATTENTION OR PRESS.
"IM ABOUT A DOLLAR WHAT THE FUCK IZ 50 CENTS" REMEBER THAT LINE ON STAGE HE HELPED 50 CARRER AND HE AINT GONNA GO AT 50.
ALSO REMBER WHAT 50 SAID A HOT97 ABOUT GAME AND WHEN GAME TOLD JAY TO SUCK HIS DICK. 50 CALLED JAY AND ASKED HIM IF THIGSZ IS AIIGHT CAUSE 50 DONT WANT HIS MONEY FUCKED UP. SO BE REALISTIC
frist of all all u wrong jigga gona brake muffins with 50 n go at game while nas n them otha dude's gona try n spit with game n now murda mase back spider loc mobb m.o.p its just matter of time till whoo kid drops new mixtape out n the unit back on top im sayin Lloyd Banks 1 of the best his old shit be kick idk about latley but papoose cool with 50 n all n Papoose murder any 1 who every touched the mic. If the beast go with gunit not even biggi n pac reborn could take that nigga on
I KNOW YALL DONT WANNA HERE THIS BUT YAYO BANKS BUCK MOB BEEP MOP AND MASE WILL SAY SOME CLEVER SHIT TO HOVA ESPECIALLY BANKS
i have no idea what mirko said...
Carter Adminstration Representative, you are the smartest man on this board. Jay is the ultimate businessman in the music business. Hopefully I'll be the new jigga, but I do not rap.
RECENT RAP HISTORY 101.... d-block been gettin at g-unit for how long??? how long they been tearin them faggots up??? have u heard Em say somethin about jada.... styles.... NOPE... id love for jay to finish g-unit n if he does Em will stay his ass out of it... TRUST ME... other than that.... Y WE KEEP BUILDIN THIS SHIT UP... IM SICK OF ALL THIS SHIT LETS JUST WAIT TILL IT HAPPENS N TALK ABOUT IT ONCE ITS HISTORY...
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I really really like tacos..........
Jay z is nice for one reason when he makes songs people pay close attention to it they press rewind and listen to closley and play it again and again they learn all the words thats why hova's so nice mad people in the game should be up there with hova
u guys are crazy, first of all, Em wouldn't jump in if Jay battled 50, Em didn't jump in when Game battled 50, in fact, Dre is on a track with game, when game is still talking shit. Don't U guys get it???50 don't run shit at Aftermath, he's thinking about leaving the label as is. As for Jay saying nas dropped an album every ten years, listen to the song again, jay said "4 albums in 10 years???Nigga I can divide, that's 1 every....lets say 2" get your facts straight people. All this beef shit got you little kids to excited, calm down
this is so boring
The carter administration rep.... i thanx u for the knowledge... Nas still my favorite... even over all them facts... nigga had the top of my list w/ illmatic alone... but still... point well made... HOVA would single handedly crush g-unit n the dreams of the dickriders who follow... again... {mortal combat voice} HOVA... FINISH HIM!!!! haha
ONe
bfresh... i aint even read half the shit written on here but i think u the only nigga that feels me on that... Em is all business... he wants to look good for everybody... he gets into bubble gum POP beefs... benzino?? i aint even kno who he was till the beef... Em wont beef w/ anybody in d-block or hov... u must b crazy to think otherwise... SO QUIT SPECULATIN
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fuck 50. cus jay will step all over his ass.. wut will really be interesting is seeing em fall into it. 50 been all over em when it comes to riding for him. so its about time its vice-versa and when/ if it draws down to 50 getting kicked around by jay, em is going to have to jump in and this shit is really going to hit a high note.
u all have been wanting this shit to happen since renegade, i know i have. got my fuckin popcorn and judge cards ready. i wanna see those 2 go at it. fuck an 8 mile, REAL flows.
HAHAHA.... where to even start?
First things first, 50 and HOV should never be mentioned in the same sentence when discussing lyrical content. Also, 50's hottest shit was Power of the Dollar and even then, he's not touching Jay with a 10 foot pole.
"Mike Jordan of rap - outside J workin,
Now watch how quickly I drop 50...."
Yep. Enough Said.
I also agree that if Jay, Lox, Nas, and AZ were on the same team...it's a Reynolds..... no one's fuckin with that
I'd be surprised if Jay came at Game just cuz he put him in his place on that freestyle, I think game caught the subliminals... "I put a couple careers on hold you could be next kid" cuz on 300 bars he talks about wakin up in a ROC chain and shit....fuckin dickrider.....
Em is nice, but nowhere near the likes of B.I.G, Big L, Kool G., Pun, HOV, NAS, and even Kweli and AZ for that matter. Could you imagine ANY of those peeps singin like Triumph the Insult Dog in their videos and shit? HELL NAH! haha....
As far as the Jay and Nas battle. I'm just glad I got to witness that as a fan, the 2 best rappers alive goin toe to toe was something to see. I still feel Jigga got the best just cuz his shit was less fictitious and I gotta admit, changed my perception of Esco.
On the real, I'd LOVE to see Jay straigh expose 50 for what he is. The modern day MC Hammer haha. Honestly,do me a favor...Bump Reasonable Doubt front to back and then listen to ANY album from the entire G-unit record label and tell me it holds a candle to that shit?? NO WAY...
I also agree that EM's shit on Renegade was hot, but the Royce verse shit all over it, and I think that was prolly the best track Em has ever been on... I also think yall are underestimating the knowledge Jay put down on that track....."My demeanor, 30 years my senior, my childhood didn't mean much, only raisin green up"...
I also agree that record sales don't mean a fuckin thing..... AZ is a top 10 dead or alive (top 5 if u ask me) and the average person that's buying out all the Eminem and 50 cent albums prolly has no clue as to who he even is.....
But I don't really wanna see Jay come at Cam or Dipset just cuz it would be pathetic....kinda like the Mobb Deep thrashing on Takeover...haha who can forget "I don't care if your mobb's deep I hold triggers to crews, you little fuck I got money stacks bigger than you" and "Twinkle Toes your breakin my heart...." haha too much man...It's late, gotta catch them Z's...HOLLA
Jay would murder 50 lyrically! The question is what would be his reason???? I don't get it.
but u kno who on fire wit the lyrics? its lil wayne my niggas.
Ey yo to the cat One love i feel and and thank you for addressing that. If jay went
at 50 he would eat his ass the hell up. Jay is a legend, 50 is a gimmick who wont ever sell 11 million records again. Im a nas fan but straight up u gotta give Jay his props he is one of the best rappers dat came up, cant deny dat.
1st of all the idiot(Carter Admin Rep) who sed JayZ went 2 South Africa on Mandela's request needs 2 check the files..that cat aint neva been 2 any African countries man...it was 50cent who did that lasyear n he sold out concerts in every country(Nigeria, South Africa, etc.)...so i dont think u r smart at all..u probbly think Naomi Campbell is related 2 Mandela..im a South African n i think u owe my country n apology...BustaRhymes was in South Africa this year..so please get ur facts straight..
as 4 Jay, i liked his shit til he left his fans in the lurch n "quit", he's a fake "thug" with stupid publicity stunts..as for him one taking songs..well, lets jus say he has talent in that field...so that i can giv him props 4...
but please stop riding his d*ck cos he really aint all that...put him against Lloyd Banks in a freestyle n im sure Banks will murder him 4 the simple fact that Jay has no talent wen it comes 2 battling, all he does is state facts, now that is not word play nor is it talent...
so get off this business man's d*ck..please
Alright I;m going through this shit and you mofo's half don;t know what you are talking about. First things first, Renegade was ORIGINALLY intended for Royce the 5'9", you can find that original verison on the net. Em' had that song recorded way before him and Royce had beef then when they did he gave it to jay with those verses already in, what the fuck is Em' talkin about anyway? Go to war with the mormons? Jay spit the real on that song it was'nt tryin to be lyrically tight"had to hustle, back to the wall, ashy knuckles"...2nd, some fool wrote that Jay Z said nas drops one album every 10 years!!?!? As Jay said in renegade this kid doesnt listen to music "he skims through it"(he said 4 in 10 years(stillmatic made it 5)....funny how he use to drop an album every other year(minus i am... n nastragarbage) but after the beef with Jay he turns right around and drops an album, cuz he knows that was living off a Jay-Z right now(I gave you life when niggas was forgetting u mc) Ether was just shit he made to rhyme words that were lies, Jay crushed Nas with one true to life verse, even Large P vouched for the Tech on tour. Nas fell off because he is a phony, like jay said in volume 1, " can't talk bout it if u ain't live it"....Third, some other fool said Jay took Nas' flow? Obviously you have never heard jay said "like I ain't the nigga who mastered all flows"...Nas has 2 flows, Jay has multiple flows that everyone is jacking but"u wanna take my flow n run wit it/thats cool, I was the first one wit' it" Jay is a businessman but that does not mean he is a dope ass mc, the greatest, stop hating and listen to music fools
this kid said Lloyd Banks would murder Jay!?!?! LMAO this is one of those white kids from the subburbs that think G-Unit is hip-hop! Lloyd bit Fabolous whole style, talking about a battle, obviously you just started listenign to rap music cuz u have know idea what you talking about....
I have to admit, everyone in here makes some damm good arguments for their, quote/unquote "favorite rapper". I just want to add my 2 cents: Nas should pay Jay for resurrecting his falling career, because he was falling off before "Takeover". Takeover was a much better DISS song that "Ether". I think more peeps felt it because it was inconceivable that someone would even THINK about going at Jay. That being said, I think that Jay's use of other MCs' lyrics in his rhymes is not BITING because he only uses a snippet or two, unlike some cats who "re-make" whole entire songs. Actually, I think when Jay does it, it's kinda dope. And he ain't the only one, because I hear a slew of cats out here doing it now. SO DEAD THAT ISSUE. Some of yall act like Jay CAN'T put it down! I'd love to see Jay body 50 if only for the lyrical content. 50's not a battle cat so that situation would be interesting to say the least. I don't see 50 going at Em. That wouldn't even be an option. There's nothing to gain from going at him. At the least, that's a tie. I think if anybody's gonna get aired the f*ck out though, it needs to be that wack ass, Jim Jones. He's been talking reaaaaallll grimy about Jay for a minute now. Dipset do their thing, and I fu*cks with them cats, but the boy Jimmy is in no way, shape or form ready to incur that wrath that Jay is going to serve him with. He's NOT even a lyricist. I wouldn't bootleg his album, that's how serious it is. I understand crew-loyalty and the fact that Jay and Cam ain't never been like that, but Jimmy's about to self-check his own ish...Jay will body that chump.
D Block kicked the hell outta g unit. even game did. It would be easy for jay to take on 50 the singer, and hes boy band.
all u 50 fans no he cant take on jay. thats why your all disputing jay vs nas. And then saying that em would try to save 50. everyone no that jay is one of the greatesy ever and 50s a pop star, who couldnt fight his own battle. 50 would have to spend 5 months on dis track, while jay would complete it in a freestyle, and still win. thats talent. it aint really talent to spend over a year on 1 album like 50. It talent if u can make a hot album in amonth like jay.
"When I hit the heavenly gates I'll be cool beside Jay-Z"- eminem
Look...how stupid is everybody ?"I DECLARE WAR"....he's already said he's going after everybody talkin greazy about him....Jay doesnt care if they are lyrically up to his stature...Jay is declaring "war" which means....Dipset...with the exception of Juelz....is gettin it....The Game..is gettin it...I believe the whole G-Unit.. is gettin it (because they cuttin into jay's paper)..and dont be surprised if jay pulls another rabbit out his hat with that ace under his sleeve...and kick some names off the bus (Young Gunz...Peedi Peedi) and pulls 2gether D-Block...Nas..Watch out...Hov's Declaring War...Yessss.. another thing... Hova is starting his Movement next week...Watch out..."Fight for New York"...any similarities ??? Jay Z..Deebo ?? ummm.... you make tha call
rdot player..u nid 2 go back 2 kindergarten cos u obviously know nothing bout the term "reading"..i sed Banks(listen 2 his Mixtape shit) can murder Jay in a battle, i ddnt say G-unit is hiphop, G-unit is pop, period...thas why Game left...now as 4 JayZ, he's cool, but wat he's doing 2 his fans is unphukinprofessional...its a publicity stunt 2 sell records..u his fans know that if he puts a out a new record u'll rush 2 the stores n buy it..Jay's a businessman, he's a good MC but he aint no battle rapper..take him 2 the fight club n put him against Serious Jones(dude who murdered Jin) and he'll phukin piss his pants...he aint no battle MC..and anyway, if rap and hipihop was about spitting real shit all the time a lot of MCs would be classified as garbage(Canibus, Em, Snoop, MF Doom, The entire DeLa Soul, The entire Wu-tang Clan, and the list goes on), so dont come round here talkin bout "Jay spit some real shit..", he n MC n MCs MC..thas it..
he would murder 50, i mean who wouldnt?? but JayZ aint no "god", so stop riding his cock...
Jay and Em have no beef and too much respect for none another. Em aint ridn for 50 like that. Jay aint beefin wit 50 like that. Neither has nuttin to lose or really gain so there is no sense in battle, other than some hot dis records. But those two would make more money together .
em might wanna see 50 get knocked down a peg instead of starting beef with every one out there. and if em wants to battle he needs to forget that encore shit and go back a few albums
If(S) and if not(s)..I read thru all this s**t but my question remains. IF it happens that JAy go for 50 cent who is also business savvy just as Jay is, will 50 Cent go back to the roots he came up from (Power of the Dollar) and respond to Jay???????Would he keep calm, be quite and not respond as he is doing to Nas And DBlock and mind his own business and move on.???
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Man, that hate for 50 on this site is strong. I wondering who hates 50 more: Sohh.com, Source or Ja Rule.
Nas is my boy and I have to admit that Jay put breathe back in his lungs with take over. Shit I profited out of it with Stillmatic. Thanks Jay, appreciate it. You know sometimes little shit like that makes me wonder. Walk with me for a sec.
Jay respected Nas back in the day, Jay is now a new mogul in rap. Jay has always been about his paper, no getting over that. What if Jay and Nas planned this shit from jump. The buzz factor alone for the beef pushed record sales for both.
Nas is looking for a new label. Atleast that's the word on the block. It's seems as a rumor that He might sign with Def Jam. Hmmmmm. Jay is running shop. Jay and Nas on the same label. Nas could give Def Jam a boost in sales as well as propel his career as an artist. This now gives us the possibilities of a colab track in one sense or another. Maybe even a colab album.
Not saying this happend or indeed is going to. But what if? Sounds cool, and I wouldn't put it beyond those two. More money for both. Shit those two are my 1& 2 as far as rappers go so I'd go head and hop on that shit.
I sound like some white guy in glasses cooking up a conspiracy theory in his mothers basement. Lol. Seriously though I just want Jay to deflate some egos and put some of this shit back into perspective. Jay can do it because he still has shine on him. People buy his albums, people care about what he says, and he can easily fuck up someones fanbase and paper.
G-Unit doesn't need J's help on fucking them up. YaYo's last album did that. Besides I'm getting tired of a bunch of dudes running around thinking their mad gangsta and shit. You niggaz should have known YaYo's project was going to be diapers(Shit in a neat package). He's supposed to be straight hood and his first single(At least in Cali) was a avergage CLUB BANGER. That was the first sign. 50 is singing on records(teeny boopershit). Second sign. G-Unit clothing, trying to make spaghetti strapped halter tops with pretty writing on it fashionable for men, sign 3. DDDDDDD-Deeeeez Nuts.
Jim Jones - Tell Mr Short Khop lil brother to get a new name, flow, gimmick, voice, makeover, bar of soap and gear and he might be good enough not to listen to.
Game - Not really sure how this would truely benefit Hov but It'd be cool to see what he got to say. I got Games album and it's tight. I got my moneys worth out of dude so If his career comes to a close, well it just does.
Fat Joe - Why even waste time? Joe puts out records that get's spins but no long term commitment from the folk listening to the catchy shit. Maybe because it has no replay value in homes or cars. Crrrrrack open a 40 and pour some out for your albums past, present, and future. There already dead.
Cheer up though man, You got the singles game on lock!
I think Jay should go after the weak fucks on his label. Clean House, re-decorate with some new artist. The Roc is on it's last leg, just shoot the old prize horse and put it out of it's misery.
Sorry Bleek but the outcomes Bleek, You need a new label a new style or be out on the streets. Making Easy Money is now over for you, Pimping Hoes In Style will soon be just a memory champ. Young Gunz,your name died with the movies. Even then the old DVD's are probably making more cake than those fucks.
That's just my opinon on shit. I'll probably piss someone sensitive off but hey fuck'em(If thats you Fuck You your'e gay!lol). It's all in good sense and fun.
werd to moe. Jim Jones is getting tagged, Game is getting tagged. End of discussion.
basis for that is Jones has been talking tooooo much shit about Jay for a minute, and Game has been a topic of discussion for Jay for a little while now. Regardless of bringing up his status...Jay's not gonna let someone run their mouth forever.
lets stop all the talkin, debatin ,and speculatin and wait for the battle to begin. we don't have a clue on who jay is going to get at in his upcoming event. there have been alot of artist takin shots at him since his retirement. all those who have been takin shots jay knows to be the man u have to beat man and jay left the game as the man as we watch him fade to black. so i waitin to see who he goes at and he better come hard (no homo) cause we all know wat happened he went at someone all of us fans r still tryin to figure out who won that battle but thats another discussion.
i think you're da man was harder then ether on stillmatic
Man, I can't believe the trash being said on this page! Jay-Z would break his foot off in the whole aftermath's family tree ass easily!!!!!50 is a joke, he has no wordplay or pen game to fuck wit Hov.....All 50 talk about is his money, when he went at Ja he was talking about how weak Ja was and how hard he is, but when D-Block spanked they ass he just says how much money he got cuz he know he fucked up when he said "All the other hard niggas, they come from Yonkers"Em won't jump in that beef cuz he know he can't fuck wit Styles, Jada, or Sheek.....Jay is the epitome of a "self made millionaire" He got some dirt on his resume, but what great mc doesn't? Yeah he got checked by Pac, That Hawaii Sophie track was garbage, he switched his style up two or three times, He got slaughtered by Nas and Em, But even after all that He can destroy Fiddy......
What y'all talking about. 50 Cent is pne of the top 5 mc's ever (yeah I said it!). 50 would tear Jay-Z a new asshole lyrically. I know y'all saw what he did to Ja Rule. Stop playin yourselves.
The holy trinity of hip hop we give dre his props but thats where it stops its the roc - jay-z
Obviously the fool that said 50 was a top 5 rapper does not listen to hip-hop all that much. He is one of these MTV kids caught up in whoever gets the most play or TRL, 50 has never spit a memorable verse in his life, his whole career is hot hooks, hot beats, mediocre lyrics. There i said it!
F*ck Eminem. You think Jay Z is scared of Eminem? His time is over. Paul Wall is Hip Hops new white boy. 50's time is almost up too. Tony Yayo should be embarased cuz he was talikin sh*t about how Styles and Sheek went double plastic, well it seems like he did the same. Game, Sheek, Styles, and Jada can have a field day with his ass.
And how the F*ck was Takeover better than Ether? Your a D*ck rider. Nas destroyed him Lyrically for 3 whole verses against Jay's one aiight verse. You calling Jays verse "truth" and Nas' "not truth" is how your a d*ck rider. How do you know which one is spitting the truth. Nas won that battle hands down.
MaPH, talking about kindergarten it seems like you only hear what you wanna hear. Funny how you did not touch the whole Banks biting Fab's whole style...tisk tisk, and because it says freestyle on the mixtape does not actually mean its a freestyle(i.e Nas, Mase cats who recycled verses for freestyles), your tryin to say Banks is nice like that if he was not with G-Unit you woulda never heard of the cat, now go cop reasonable doubt, illmatic, only built 4 cuban linx,ready to die, 36 chambers and listen to hip hop that came out before 2003! Then you'll realize how fugazy your boys are!
Fact Jay crushed Nas with one true to life verse, large professor even vouched for the tech on tour. Nas was spittin nonsense like in 88 you were calling my crib and I aint even give u my number...Nas was still cutting high school then, so what the hell is he talking about. I can go on and on about that fugazy song, but its irrelevant with kids these days.
LOOK. JAY WONT GO AT EM.
IF HE GOES AT 50 WHICH I DONT THINK HE WILL IT DEPENDS WHO YOU LIKE AS TO WHO WINS. I STILL HEAR PEOPLE SAY THAT JA BEAT FIFTY WHICH IS BULLSH*T BUT THEY ARE JA FANS.
GAME WILL GET IT BUT THERES NO OTHER CERTAINTIES(GAME AINT EVEN A CERTAINTY)
THIS IS ALL JUST A PUBLICITY STUNT FOR A BIG ANOUNCEMENT AS WELL AS SHOWIN EVERY1 HOW GOOD HOV IS. HE MAY ANOUNCE HIS COMEBACK AND NEW DEF JAM PLANS THATS MORE LIKELY.
DONE
Jay is not going at em or 50 personally he's not stupid. He would eat them in a battle but its too much business for him 2 lose. Em and 50 are the best selling Artsits out right now and Jay is the ceo for defjam he could use them for tours features the reebok thing etc... game and cam , jim jones are main targets nas, lox and young jeezy are probably comin out to get at g-unit. But 4 some reason i dont think it will spark beef wit jay and g-unit.
Anybody who doesn't understand that JAY got ate by NAS, doesn't really understand hip hop. Jay got more money, hoez, cars, jewels, businesses, etc, BUT HE GOT ATE!!!!!!!!! END of story period HE GOT ATE!!!
OK PEOPKE LETS GET TO IT. FIRST THING FIRST, THE WHOLE JAY-Z GOING AFTER 50 THING IS POSSIBLE BUT AS FOR EMINEM GOIN AFTER JAY-Z BECAUSE HE WENT AFTER 50, WON'T HAPPEN. ONLY BECAUSE EMINEM DOES'T START BEEFS OR GET INVOLVED WIT THEM UNLESS SOMEONE ATTACKS HIM. EXAMPLE BENZINO AND JA RULE, THEY WENT AFTER EM OUT OF NOWHERE AND EM CAME AND SHUT THEIR WHOLE ORGANIZATION DOWN!!!
THE ONLY REASON EM DID'NT GO AFTER GAME WAS BECAUSE IT WASN'T HIS BATTLE. IF JAY CAME AFTER EM, EM WOULD MURDER HIM. BUT JAY RESPECTS EMINEM TO MUCH TO GO AFTER HIM AND EM RESPECTS JAY TOO MUCH TO GO AFTER HIM FOR NO REASON.
RECORD SALES AND LYRICS PROVE THAT EMINEM IS THE GREATEST RAPPER ALIVE.
AND TO THE DUDE THAT SAID THE ONLY REASON EMINEM'S VERESE ON "RENEGADE" WAS BETTER THAN JAYS IS BECAUSE EM WROTE HIS AND JAY FREESTYLED, IS CRAZY. IF YOU TRULY KNOW YOUR JAY-Z HISTORY THEN YOU WOULD KNOW THAT JAY-Z USE TO WRITE HIS LYRICS UNTIL HE FOUND OUT BIGGIE FREESTYLED. SO WOULDN'T IT MAKE SENSE THAT IF YA STUFF IS WRITTEN THAT IT WOULD SOUND ALOT BETTER. THATS THE EXACT REASON WHY JAY GOT RIPPED ON ETHER.
lil ballerina p, lololol.
i wish i got here early so my comment wuld have more of an effect coz i know there aint no blacks reading all these blogs.
Yo ight 1st of all 4 the record Jay killed Nas with the takeover Jay is better then Nas for one nas was jus sayin dumb a** sh** about jay like tokin bout his lips and watevr jay spit factual information about Nas and he killed Na sand the whole dong wasn jus bout Nas he killed mobb deep in the that. @ the end of the day Nas wus good now he's jus wack. Jay can go @ any1 in the game rite now if anyone he should kill game for fun jus cuz he can and if he goes at 50 he can kill him too and he shouldn't b worried about em ether I mean em is gettin worse to I mean have u seen "ass like that" that dude is dancin wit the muppets how he expect to b takin seriously I mean cum on b. And people need 2 quitjudgin talent based on dumb shit like em is better then jay b/c of a better verse on renegade and that eminem is the best rapper in the world based on record sales if that's the case 50 is the greatest rapper of all time and Method Man has no talent it don't make since. If u are a true hip hop fan every1 know U DON'T BASE WHO IS BEST BASED UPON THEIR SALES/ that's the dumbest thing u can say. The only people that can even be mentioned in the same breath as jay is restin in heaven. If any1 has an opposin arguement should holla @ me
-Gentz Fa Life
To clarify for the groupies on here. Jay Z has more money than Nas, he is higher profile, he makes better party joints.
But when it comes to lyricism, MCing, being creative and everything Hip Hop was originaly about, Nas is head and shoulders better than Jay Z.
Jay bit his whole style from BIG, lets not forget. That Brooklyn playa/hustler image, does anybody realy believe that Jay was original with that? Jay gained the most of anybody by BIG's death.
On the other hand when Illmatic came out nobody heard anything like it at that point in time. No famous guest appearances while Jay had BIG and Mary J. Blidge to help sell his album.
Like its been said... Em and Jay and cool. Dre and Jay are cool. Even if Jay went at 50 or vice versa, who the fuck says Dre and Em would even get involved (Game anyone?).
I love being fucking right!
You have to remember that jay made nas go and do a whole song off of 1 line.
"Ask Nas, he don't want it with Hov. NO!!" was the reason for the "stillmatic intro" the first reply to the line that nas did. I can't even remember if it made stillmatic but its the one where he talk about run over Freeway and stuff.
NAS AND AZ WAS THE ONLY NIGGA'S THAT COULD GO WIT BIG FOR A PERIOD OF RHYMES. DON'T GET ME WRONG JIGGA RAW AS FUCK IN MANY WAYS THAN ONE. BUT EVEN JAY KNOWS NAS RIPPED HIM ON ETHER. A TRUE MOMENT IN HIP-HOP. WHEN MY NIGGA PLAYED THAT SHIT I WAS LIKE DAMN, BUT JAY STILL WAS ABLE TO RISE AFTER THAT, WHICH PROVES HE'S A TRUE FIGURE IN HIP-HOP. LOOK HOW MANY SONGS JAY FELT HE HAD TO MAKE AFTER ETHER. RIGHT NOW CAN'T NOBODY FUCK WIT JAY JUST CAUSE OF HIS BUSINESS SAVY. A TRUE MAN WILL PROFIT REGUARDLESS OF THE SITUATION. BATTLES EITHER DESTROY YOU OR MAKE YOU BETTER. JAY STILL BE SPITTIN SHIT THAT'LL MAKE YOU REWIND THEM SHITZ LIKE DAMN DID YOU HEAR WHAT THIS NIGGA JUST SAID. AZ WILL RIP JAY ANY FORM OR FASHION. AND NAS WILL GIVE IT TO AZ. BIG IS THE ONLY NIGGA THAT CAN REALLY LYRICALLY RIP ANYBODY IN HIP-HOP. EDUCATION AND STREET SMARTS PLAY THE BIGGEST ROLE IN ONE'S SKILLS. BUT RIGHT NOW JAY HAS HAD THE SPOT AND I DON'T SEE NOBODY TAKIN IT FROM HIM. DON'T FRONT DUDE NICE AS HELL. EVERYBODY GOT THAT WRITIN THEY RAPS IN THEY HEAD OFF BIG. CANIBUS, JAY, NAS, ALL THEM KNEW NOBODY WAS FUCKIN WIT FRANK WHITE, EVEN HIS OLD SHIT STILL KILLIN THIS SHIT OUT NOW. PAC WAS NICE TOO, BUT DUDE HAD TO MUCH ON HIS MIND TO TRULY SUCCEED PAST WHAT HE WAS GIVIN HIS FANS. BUT JAY GOT THE GAME ON LOCK AND EM DIDN'T KILL HIM ON HIS SHIT CAUSE JAY SPIT SOME SHIT REAL STREET NIGGA'S WAS FEELIN. EM NICE BUT THAT'S IT. WHAT HE RAP ABOUT THAT WE COULD REALLY RELATE TOO ANYWAYS. HIP-HOP IS THE VOICE OF URBAN AMERICA, REGUARDLESS WHERE HIP-HOP HAS GONE. IT'S STILL OUR VOICE FROM THE STREETS AND WHO GOING THREW MORE SHIT THAN BLACKS. JAY GOT TIRED OF NAS NOT RESPECTING HIM SO HE GOT AT DUDE. JAY WANTED THE HOTTEST NIGGA OUT AT THE TIME ON HIS ALBUM AND NAS SAID FUCK THAT NIGGA. LISTEN TO JAY OVER THE YEARS, HE ALWAYS GAVE NAS HIS PROPS, SHIT JAY WAS WRITIN FOR FOXY AND SHE WAS WIT THE FIRM. JAY MADE COUNTLESS ATTEMPTS TO BE COOL WIT NAS, SO JAY SAID FUCK THIS AND DEFENDED HIS MANHOOD. LOOK AT DEAD PRESIDENTS VIDEO, AZ, BIG, WHY WASN'T NAS THERE AND HE WAS ON THE HOOK. STUDY HIP-HOP INSTEAD OF READIN SHIT FROM THESE MAGAZINES AND OFF THESE FUCKIN WEB SITES. MY OPINION NAS WAS WRONG FOR NOT FUCKIN WIT JAY, CAUSE JUST THINK WHERE HIS CAREER WOULD BE IF HE DID. NEW YORK NIGGA'S IS ALL ABOUT SELF, UNTIL THEY NEED YOU. SPREAD YOUR HUSTLE HOMIE AND WE ALL CAN COME UP THE RIGHT WAY. JUST THINK IF NAS WAS FEATURED ON ALOT MORE SONGS LIKE JAY AND BIG DID. LOOK AT THE LOX, NOW THEY TRYIN TO DO MORE FEATURES. JUST CAUSE THEY LOVE YOU TODAY DOESN'T MEAN THEY'LL LOVE YOU TOMMOROW- B.I.G.
AND GAME AIN'T GONE LEARN UNTIL JAY REALLY LET HIM HAVE IT. HE GOT BEEF WIT BLEEK AND YG'S FOR NO DAMN REASON. SHIT HE FUCKIN UP JAY PAPER, SO JAY NEED TO SHUT HIS MADE UP BEEF ASS THE FUCK UP. HE EVEN SAID THAT IF HE DON'T HAVE ANY BEEF THEN HE WILL FIND SOMEBODY TO BEEF WIT. THAT'S SOME STUPID ASS SHIT AND DRE NEED TO STEP IN AND CALM DUDE DOWN. HE GOT LIKE 20 SONGS DISSIN G-UNIT AND THEN HE GOES ON 106 AND BITCH UP. GTFOH!!!! WIT THAT SHIT. DUDE CAN SPIT BUT FOCUS ON YOUR CAREER INSTEAD OF BULLSHIT BEEF. D-BLOCK GOT LIKE 20 SONGS, BUT WHAT IS THIS BEEF DOIN FOR THEY POCKETS. THE CONCERT IS CLOSE SO I CAN'T WAIT TIL THE OUTCOME. I BET YOU ALOT OF RAPPERS WON'T TELL YOU THEY WORRIED AS FUCK. BUT TRUST ME THEY HEART BEATIN EXTRA FAST RIGHT NOW, CAUSE THEY KNOW JIGGA CAPABLE OF KILLIN THEY CAREERS. I PUT A COUPLE OF CAREERS ON HOLD/ YOU COULD BE NEXT KID.
MR. IRRELEVANT, OBVIOUSLY UR A JAY-Z DYCK RYDER. TAKE HIS DICK OUT UR MOUTH FOR A SEC, "DAME DIDDY OR DAME DUMMY?" U WANT FUCKIN FACTS? THATS A FACT RIGHT THERE SUCKA. DAME HAS NO BUSINESS BEING ALL UP IN THE VIDEO,DANCING ON STAGE,POURING CRISTAL ON BITCHES,ETC. I FTHAT SHIT AIN'T FUCKING PUFFY-ESQUE THAN WHAT THE FUCK IS? I KNOW NAS DROPPED A BUNCH OF BATTLE PUCNLINE AND SHIT BUT SO DID JAY. NAS DID STATE FACTS,JAY DID SAY HE WAS BETTER TAHN B.I.G. AND HE KNOW TAE BO...SO WHUT THA FUCK. AND DON'T GET ME STARTED ON EM, THAT TWINKEY LEMON MERANGE PIE MUTHAFUCKER SHOULD QUIT RAPPING.HE'S DONE,NOBODY CARES ANYMORE,UR NOT SHOCKING,UR LINES SUCK AND UR WACK. PEOPLE GIVE EM TOO MUCH CREDIT. HE'S NOT A BATTLE RAPPER ANYMORE,HE'S A POP ARTIST TAHT MAKES SONGS FOR 7 YEAR OLDS................ "ASS LIKE THAT" TELL ME IF ANY OTHER RAPPER PUT THAT SHIT OUT, THAT THEY'RE CAREER WOULD BE OVER. EM GETS SPECIAL TREATMENT BECAUSE HE'S A JOKE. LEAVE BATTLING FOR THE HUNGRY NIGGAS CAUSE THEY DO IT BETTER. I'M HATING ON THIS POP STAR BEEF SOAP OPERA. FEED THE HUNGRY NIGGAS, FEED THE HUNGRY!
Y the fuck r the same shits bein posted over n over... if u got notin to bring to the table... SHUT THE FUCK UP... Nas is my numero uno cause that nigga takes rap like an artform... that nigga is creative w/ all his shit... u gon tell me jay made anything like rewind on stillmatic?? NOPE... Nas does things that aint been done he dont care if it'll sell him records or not...period... Em fell off if u ask me... n i HOPE that if this shit is gettin built up this big.... that HOV actually changes the game n gets some gimmics out for the real niggas to get paper...
UNO OUT
i'm tired of u fools saying nas fell off. the thing is after illmatic and it was written, the god switched his shit up.just because he rapped with a different and more commercial flavor dont mean he fell off.damn even the mainstream commercial tracks made lotta sense. hate me now money is my bitch just to name a few.jigga did the same thing after reasonable doubt and didn't nobody say shit.its so fuckin irritatin. streets disciple,one
i'm tired of u fools saying nas fell off. the thing is after illmatic and it was written, the god switched his shit up.just because he rapped with a different and more commercial flavor dont mean he fell off.damn even the mainstream commercial tracks made lotta sense. hate me now money is my bitch just to name a few.jigga did the same thing after reasonable doubt and didn't nobody say shit.its so fuckin irritatin. streets disciple,one
The whole point of a battle is to embarras the other emcee as much as possible with anything you can pull out of the hat about the other. To say that because Jay was spitting fatual shit about Nas makes him the winner is stupid. Nas shitted on Jay in the way a battle rapper would. And whos to say Nas wasn't spittin real shit? How do we know Jay wasn't being chased to his building? And if you think Ether is the only hot song on Stillmatic then you know nothing about real hip-hop! One Mic was the best song on that album. I admit that jays attck helped him sell records but if you think that Stillmatic would've been whack without Ether hasnt listened to that album. And what the hell are we even talking about??? This was about Jay-Z going at 50!
And ih yeay, according to jimmy Henchmen (Games manager) Jay Z aint going at Game.
Does it even matter which one is better. I mean i really dont give a $hit which one hits home better but all i care about is who makes good music. I think that was what it was about back in the day "making good music"" Nas and Jay are completely different stlyes and talents..Nas is more of a poetic type who goes about describing the hood and its happenings in is poetic way..He's kinda like the creative,talented,god-gifted dude that rises from the avg homie and displays great shine and skill lyrically and on paper..Jay is a freestyler,tell it like it is, spit in yur face type of rapper..He's the type who doesnt give much about peotic style and charecter but just spits whats on his mind..Ofcourse if we're gonna compare the 2 rappers they wont be comparable due to different styles and approaches..I am a fan of both..Let us be clear on certain things..NAS is a legend..both in queens and the greater rap world..Jay is also similar however He is a BRAND,he is a GD MOGUL...
agree w/ cant_stop
Good lookin Rdot....it's about time someone came on this shit that knew what the deal is.....
It's pointless even arguing a potential 50 vs. Jay showdown, cuz it would be the most one sided battle ever. The problem is, the majority of kids on here heard Hip Hop for the first time when listening to "Get Rich or Die Tryin" and thought it was the best album, lyrically speaking, ever made hahaha. 50 ain't even bother coming hard at the Lox, not cuz he didn't feel like it u dickriders, but cuz he COULDN'T! Think about it..... goin back to "How to Rob", 50's disses have been more humorous then ill. Ya its easy to make fun of Ja Rule and have people laughin...but that shit don't work when tryin to come at some hood niggas that got street cred, and that's the real reason he ain't come hard at the Lox. As far as Banks, he's by far the best lyricist G-unit has to offer, but he definitely stole Fab's style and even switched up his voice (listen to him on the Still Dre freestyle)....
Whoever thinks Jigga is fallin off is a fuckin idiot. Let's examine what verses he's hopped on lately..."Shake it Off remix" FIRE...."Go Crazy Remix"FIRE, and the extended version is straight FUEGO as well...."Get Throwed Up" WOW!....even on the Slim Thug "I ain't heard of that" Hov is puttin the streets down like steamrollers......
Hahaha, speakin of Hawaii Sophie, is it just me or does that sound like a Fresh Prince and DJ Jazzy Jeff "Parents Just don't understand" REMIX....HAHAHA
I also wanna know who the FUCK gave Jim Jones a record deal...honestly he serves as a serious inspiration....cuz after hearing his shit, I REALLY feel like I can hit the studio, make a track, and get a deal...and I can't flow for shit.
BEST CASE SCENARIO: Hov bodies 50, Game, Dipset (i've heard enough Humpty Dumpty comfy comfy), and Dame (yep!), while introducing the newest members of TEAM ROC.....Nas, AZ, The Lox, TI, LUPE FIASCO and Weezy. HOLLA
oh yea PS....am I the only nigga that seems to remember that Jay straight shitted on Nas on "Blueprint 2"...cuz all i'm hearing is Ether vs. Takeover and I think that's right up there too... haha, definitely exposed Nas as hypocritical at times. But don't get me wrong....as far as best rapper alive, they gotta be 1 and 1A in either order.
I read somewhere today that Jay is about to sign or announce he signed Nas and they will do an album together that will be executive produced by Kanye west. If this is true, this will be the single most important venture in Hip Hop since I dont even know. This will bring the focus back to real Hip Hop and to real MCing. And it will also draw peoples attention away from 50 Cent and his WWF madness.
And Nas is back on his sh*t. He got a joint with Lauren Hill thats crazy, his joint with Damian Marley is crazy, hia joint with Kanye is crazy, and that Dont Body yourself is crazy. And Cam had the nerve to say he ended Nas' career. Cam couldnt end Young MC's career cuz Young MC is nicer than Cam, Juelz and Jimmy, who are THEEEEEEE 3 worst rappers in the game.
pac murdered jayz please come on be serious.pac never lyrically murder j.saying fuck you aint lyrical wit.j got to much shit.remember peoples court.man j got so much underground shit its crazy.anybody that love lyrics knows the brother is crazy.50 cent please son aint got no lyrics.go cop fade to black the dvd.that nigga aint do one wack song.reasonable doubt blueprint and hard knock life volume 2 3 classics.ya niggas is crazy.
Carter Admin Rep I think J is an alright MC and does not warrant all this King of all MC's tag that you bestowed him, he's retired and has got a great woman should stay at home and by the way 50 had a sellout concert in London last night 25 000 tickets and he cannot afford to buy a stake in Arsenal FC football he should concentrate on generating sales for Def Jam like JD is for Virgin
What a waste of time yo, cmon now guys...
Yes Jay does have the prowess to beat down G-Unit lyrically for sure. And Supa Ugly was low blow true....BUT you compare takeover's verses with that ether bullshit, you'll see, its fact vs. bloated diss talk. Jay is a much better battle rapper because he takes facts and illustrates them poetically. He's go the experience, and the PROOF hes a better rapper is that he has never written down a single song (true story). All his raps on all his studio albums are freestyles that he memorized in his head, no jokes.
Eminem is good but he does NOT have the credibility (after the black chick song) to be able to go against Jigga. MAYBE if Dre and Em jumped into this shit, they'd all stand a chance.
If you think about it.....D12 sucks...Stat Quo sux...Yayo eats cock... 50 cent has to try damn hard to write well.......so it would be like...... Dre, Em, 50 Cent, Banks, probably Busta (who we all know is not jay-z's biggest fan at all) vs. Jay-Z, and as someone said, hed bring out his real skill dawgs like Bun B and Scarface.... Bleek wouldnt pose much of a lyrical threat, hes like the R-O-C- yayo (lil hype man bitch for jay). Siegel would not get involved for sure, his pops was down with fifty's uncle and they got some deep connections.
But point is.......jay will not go at 50. Has no reason to, the two of them patched their 2002 beef up, and did a track toghether (remix of IF I CANT). Since then 50 has said nothing but respectful things about Jay.
And y'all, 50 is whack but getcha stories about Preme right. Jay and diddy probably wanna be dissassociated from that guy right now. Preme is the most powerful drugdealer on the east coast.......and thats a whole nother beef from the streets, he had 50 cent shot because 50 talked shit about him in a song. (incidentally, the guy he sent after 50 got killed himself)
I think Jay-Z is going after Game. He probably gonna show Game's faggoty ass strip club video. LOL@this Game verse from the Ghost Unit mixtape!
'You Gonna Make Me Make Jay Lose His Cool'
GANGSTA!
Jigga should know better by now to pick a fight with 50 after losing the first battle. If Nas couldn't body 50 with 'Body Yaself', then what Jigga think he gonna do? Fuck outta hea.
lol@Takeover being better than Ether!
Did you not hear Jigga crying on the radio after Ether dropped? Did you not hear that shit? I thought Jigga would get away with the win until I heard him crying to Angie Martinez. Someone needs to up a link of that audio.
Jigga took Ether hard as hell. People say 'You can't handle the truth.' and 'truth hurts' all the time but what hurts worse than the truth is lies being told about you that you know isn't true. But do the people know that?
The righteousness in you wants to disprove those lies with all your heart. Jigga was hurt cause his favorite rapper besides Biggie, Nas, was very obscene in his lyrics. Jigga EXPECTED Nas to BEHAVE and come back with a fact-finding rap that Jigga could retaliate easily to.
Big mistake. Out of all the mufukas in the zodiac, he had to pick on a Virgo. Virgos are evil faggots man. They borrow yo shit and never give it back or say they lost it. Don't trust a Virgo. That's something that former FIRM and Queensbridge niccas had to learn the hard way.
please be serious people why would eminem wanna go at jay is unfathomable.
50 cent is the worst thing that has happened to hip hop since parapa the rapper video game
dick set could never touch jayz or the roc
LA ROCA maricon
4 lyfe
DJ Fukalya quote 1 just 1 ill verse 50 ever said with a sic metaphore or something my 7 year old daughter couldnt rhyme together.the funny thing is niggas really think 50 got lyrics.just 1 ill verse.
LISTEN UP!! Jay would destroy every member of g-unit. I'm not counting MOBB DEEp, M.O.P or MASE because I don't think that they would even get involved in the beef. and if you listen to whats been going on EM hasn't gotten involved. SHEEK and STYLES have been blazin g-unit up for a minute. Hov dosen't need a camp Beans will still ride for him and he'll murder 50, yayo, buck and banks. now if the LOX signs with defjam it's a wrap for g-unit and if the rumors are true and Nas comes aboard then put a bow on g-unit and send them off. to be honest I hope BOOTCAMP CLICK comes back strong. Smiff-n-Wessun, Heltah Skeltah, OGC.
hahaha shiet i jus found this shit on a forum, apparently some 50 cent diss lyrics that are comin' out or some shit, if this is real he's a goner. Then again this is the same forum that posted up some fake lyrics that Nas had supposedly written for G-Unit.
G-Unit Hit Em Up
[50 cent]
First off, fuck D-Block
niggaz ridin Jada's cock
Thought you was cool when you was the Lox
niggaz that times over, you aint big nor pac
leave it at that bitches before you kiss my glock
styles piss think he hot think he can fuck with me
Nigga I eat you for breakfast this is an emergency
When Banks finishes eating u lyrically
Yayo gonna give yo monkey ass mac 10 surgery
Sheek Bitch poppin off his mouth with nursery rhymes
Nigga Buck outdo you eyes closed, album sales times nine
Next time you getcho head outta jada's ass
MOP'll burn you like em did ja, your time's over that fast
and fagakiss already recovered from last summer
nigga you know what im talkin about when you ran to your hummer
niggaz wavin glocks at you, pussy n scared
everyone saw you run away gangsta impaired
if you so hard why you runnin away?
and you callin me a snitch nigga, you just jealous of my pay
I outsell you pussies outstreet you pussies
And if i catch you in NY ima beat you pussies
Yea I live in Conneticut but I still live in New York
And bitch ass niggaz all yall do is talk n talk
Bitch lil nigga Jada sayin "oh fiddy you sing"
Nigga you sung with Mariah, n you still sellin this gangsta thing?
Even The Lame wrote he wouldnt fuck mariah
Oh wait I wrote that for him, without me he retired
Bitch ass from Compton, I own you now
Talkin about G-UNOT, nigga, i ask how
You under me bitch, i'm your boss
You a disgruntled employee, and you lost
Said the wrong shit nigga, now learn the cost
Stole my flow stole my lines, now you want olivia's lip gloss
Ima Take you back to 03 when my shit went plat world wide
Dre n Jimmy begged me to bring you to my side
Worked with your weak ass flow, wrote songs n let you in my crew
West side story, How we do, hate it or love it I did em all for you
Every album you sold was cuz of G G G G -UNIT
Funny for us niggaz to see you ruin it
Nigga went to Europe got a big head dissin Jay-Z
Comes back like a ho n denies it, this nigga crazy
Now he thinks he can fuck around with yayo's albums
This nigga depressed too high off valiums
Stay in Cali nigga, its where you belong
Spyda Loc gonna buck you when you cross dressin in olivia's thong
And Black Wallstreet, thats some funny shit
Niggaz never gonna sell, c'mon admit it
Without the interscope stamp you niggaz is nothin
Made up pasts, tryina wanksta somthin
You niggaz is over, nobody wants to hear from you
Keep talkin that ghost unit shit next time I come West Side its black n blue
Oh n Ja don't think I don't hear you talkin
Nigga by next year you n fat irv ain't gonna be walkin
You cock ridin suge and bitch ass preme
Its time I addressed you niggaz without my team
I crushed you pussies good, you fukn felt the hurt
The nigga preme sent at me is lyin 6 feet in the dirt
I took 9 shots n survived em well
Dint say shit to the DA, sent my shooter to hell
I'll fuck yo ass up kenneth nigga, I got back up now
You gonna get in the back like montana, blow (G-UNIT!)
I ain't ever snitched worth shit jus cuz i got questioned
Niggaz shot Jam master now y'all gonna die before pention
Fuck gotti fuck ja, n fuck ashanti too
Fuck you Supreme, thats right I said fuck you too
N Fat ass Joe what happened to the fo fo fo?
Nigga you ran away from me at the VMAs like a ho ho ho
I'll kick your santa clause ass back to the north pole
Where you be fuckin your terror squad elves some mo
Terror squad aint terrorizin shit
You couldn't face me, now you suckin clit
Sayin "me n fiddy dont wanna kill each otha"
Nigga wat happened to the don puttin me with my motha
You found out I'm hard now your ass is in fear
Its G-Unit fat boy, guerilla unit is here
And Yukmouth you don't even deserve bars from fiddy
Yayo n Buck gonna burn your ass up till you dancin like diddy
You a no-sell bitch ass wannabe with whack ass rhymes
Spyder Loc and West side g-unit jacked you that time
Don't forget that time nigga, you was in da club
Spyder ripped yo chain n knocked ya, nigga thats a thug
Claimed you was alone cuz your niggas deserted ya
Fuck with G-Unit again n niggaz will have murdered ya
Lil Kim you my bitch I don't even gotta start no beef
Them Queens bitches gonna crack in your teeth
Cuz I know what cell block you on wannabe
My groupies gonna run up on ya, its the end of queen B (G-UNIT!)
N Nas you thought MC Burial was gonna be the end?
Nigga Jay took you over, I'ma put you in the pen
With your piggy bitch wife, I burned you on piggy bank
Now listen escobar trash you gonna learn the term shank
That shit was weak, and Jada ain't defeated me
After I'm done with you, you gon learn how to treat me
You had some hot shit, illmatic was ill
Now nigga you a dud, its time for the GGGG G-UNIT kill
N last lil nigga to address is shyne
Nigga you gonna wish you were in prison callin collect with the dime
Cuz you out now, no more fuckin' phone insults
My niggaz up in DC gonna send you on a catapult
Straight into Jada's ass where you belong
And that's at the Queensbridge cemetery n thats the end of this song
Yayo: Yeaa niggaz fuck all yall.....GGGG G-UNIT rap juggernaughts of this shit! We takin' over niggaz.....Curtis Interscope 50 cent Jackson! Lloyd Banks! Young Buck Marley! Talk of New York Tony Yayo! The infamous Mobb Deep! MOP! Mason Mase Betha! FUCK ALL YOU FAKE ASS GANGSTAS....
Jay and Nas are like hand in glove now. When you talk about the best it's those two. I like ether more than take over because when I heard it I was like Good God Damn, I can't believe he put all that shit out there like that. Not to say Take over was all that inferior. Nas is my favorite rapper and Jay is right behind him. When I listened to Take Over (First that is) I was like damn he put my nigga on blast. Seriously he had some points. If Nas didn't come out into the game so strong the fall off talk wouldn't even be there. How many cat's come out with a hip-hop classic first effort out? Exactly. Lets say I am was first, Nastradamus was second, and Illmatic was third then folk would be like this nigga is getting steadily better. No disputing that. Nas's worst album Nastradamus was better than most niggaz shit nowadays flat out. Although we all think it's garbage becuase it's not Nas material. Our grading curve is steeper for the smart kids. Jay never really had a bad album, Some just shine more than others. That's why we hold him so high. Jay never really let us down. Am I the only one here that remembers Nas was fucked by early leaks of his c.d Nastrodamus. Not that 1 or 2 week shit you could find on the net. I'm talking 3 to 4 months. That shit would fuck anyone up. Lost tapes was the heat he was supposed to relase as a second disc with Nastradamus. At that point in time there was no point because the bootlegers were killing him. The lost tapes was a great and underappreciated cd. I hope Hov, being the buisness savvy cat he is scoops up Nas so they can get their paper up. That would be a landmark in hip-hop. Fuck favoritism, those two have put my memeories to music. Tried to get my first minage to Feeling it( Didn't happen though, I was too drunk, the two chicks were too sober). My pops was released from prison, I was bumping Your the Man. Had my first and minage to OutKast, SpottieOttieDopealicious. I know it's not either of the two but since I mentioned getting shot down by those two chicks I had to tell ya a success story (same chicks too, they were drunk and I was sober, damn right doggie). I'm sure some of you probably got better. The point is, most of the cats Jay is getting at are insignificant in the world of hip-hop. Disposable MC's, Not much but a gimmick that will be laughed at in years to come. Why don't we all just sit back and watch the show.
carter faculty jay as never been 2 africa im a nigerian and dats dats d beef ive got with him and u south .african say shit bout banks fuckin jay go listen to b2k cos u dont no shit jay is gettin at fat joe,cam,busta cos dey say underground shit bout him bleek i lov u but u need an hit with nelly or bobby valentino im ur fan since 'memphis bleek is' but dont fuck with game pls ygs b2anoda is wack rocafella is fallin with peeps like teari marri we need rihanna cassidy common cant see dj clue whats happin cant jayz produce notin good yet anyway jay z is best love kanye twista got lov 4 nas but dont talk bout d beef its d ROC +ARSENAL
carter faculty jay as never been 2 africa im a nigerian and dats dats d beef ive got with him and u south .african say shit bout banks fuckin jay go listen to b2k cos u dont no shit jay is gettin at fat joe,cam,busta cos dey say underground shit bout him bleek i lov u but u need an hit with nelly or bobby valentino im ur fan since 'memphis bleek is' but dont fuck with game pls ygs b2anoda is wack rocafella is fallin with peeps like teari marri we need rihanna cassidy common cant see dj clue whats happin cant jayz produce notin good yet anyway jay z is best love kanye twista got lov 4 nas but dont talk bout d beef its d ROC +ARSENAL
carter faculty jay as never been 2 africa im a nigerian and dats dats d beef ive got with him and u south .african say shit bout banks fuckin jay go listen to b2k cos u dont no shit jay is gettin at fat joe,cam,busta cos dey say underground shit bout him bleek i lov u but u need an hit with nelly or bobby valentino im ur fan since 'memphis bleek is' but dont fuck with game pls ygs b2anoda is wack rocafella is fallin with peeps like teari marri we need rihanna cassidy common cant see dj clue whats happin cant jayz produce notin good yet anyway jay z is best love kanye twista got lov 4 nas but dont talk bout d beef its d ROC +ARSENAL
Jay-z is one of the greatest and so is Nas but overall Jay-z is better due to his Consistency. As for 50 , he's alright but he's not real plus metaphoricaly he's not even better than Ja. And if you think about Jay-z alright crushed him .Quote "I'm about a dollar what the fuck is 50 cent" from Vol.3. As for Eminem, oyu can't take him seriously . I mean look at his crew D12 and he's from a trailor park and how hard is that.
carter faculty jay as never been 2 africa im a nigerian and dats dats d beef ive got with him and u south .african say shit bout banks fuckin jay go listen to b2k cos u dont no shit jay is gettin at fat joe,cam,busta cos dey say underground shit bout him bleek i lov u but u need an hit with nelly or bobby valentino im ur fan since 'memphis bleek is' but dont fuck with game pls ygs b2anoda is wack rocafella is fallin with peeps like teari marri we need rihanna cassidy common cant see dj clue whats happin cant jayz produce notin good yet anyway jay z is best love kanye twista got lov 4 nas but dont talk bout d beef its d ROC +ARSENAL
er faculty jay as never been 2 africa im a nigerian and dats dats d beef ive got with him and u south .african say shit bout banks fuckin jay go listen to b2k cos u dont no shit jay is gettin at fat joe,cam,busta cos dey say underground shit bout him bleek i lov u but u need an hit with nelly or bobby valentino im ur fan since 'memphis bleek is' but dont fuck with game pls ygs b2anoda is wack rocafella is fallin with peeps like teari marri we need rihanna cassidy common cant see dj clue whats happin cant jayz produce notin good yet anyway jay z is best love kanye twista got lov 4 nas but dont talk bout d beef its d ROC +ARSENAL