New York Newspaper Disses Proof's Death

Today the NY Post ran an article about Proof's murder that began:

"Red-hot rapper Proof - a close pal of Eminem - was executed in a Detroit nightclub early yesterday when a gunman blew his brains out during a heated argument."

"Blew his brains out"? Holy hell. This so-called journalist, Bill Hoffman scribbled a description of Proof's murder that is more than just disrespectful - it's tasteless. I plan to email him about this at "bill.hoffmann@nypost.com" and I suggest you do the same.

And this isn't just an isolated slight. When ODB died, the Post ran the headline, "Dead Dirty Bastard" as if our heroes in hip-hop don't deserve the same respect as any other artist who dies.

In another display of how inadequate Hoffman was a a choice to write this article, he ends with:

"It was not immediately known what the argument was about or whether it was part of the ongoing East Coast-West Coast rap war that has claimed such hip-hop greats as the Notorious B.I.G. and Tupac Shakur."

Somebody fire this guy.

For real coverage of Proof's tragic passing, read SOHH's latest article and our Talkin' Videos tribute to him with a review of Eminem's Like Toy Soldiers.

Posted by SOHH Hashim at April 12, 2006 01:33 PM

Comments

No big surprise! Doesn't matter what dude's name is, or what paper he writes for....the media prints this sh*t to sell papers....I find it really funny that the idiot had to drag the whoel East/West thing into it! Huh?

Posted by: convict at April 12, 2006 02:02 PM

Maybe he confused Proof with SuperHead in the matter of someone getting their brains blown out.

Posted by: caff at April 12, 2006 02:04 PM

tasteless. wonder how they wrote in the paper when kurt cobain died. this is the time when we as rap fans and humans should not make fun of a situation like this at all. that shit aint cool. it more that rap at this point. i dont care what region your from or what music you dont like, death isnt something to poke fun at.

rip proof

Posted by: bigced at April 12, 2006 02:05 PM

East Coast/West Coast? On going feud? Please somebody slap that dude. Damn last time I checked Proof was from the Midwest. Fuck the media. RIP Proof

Posted by: Whateva at April 12, 2006 02:07 PM

that was a horrible article. but people givin respect to proof is cool, but what about the guy that proof shot in da head first. people are talkin as if proof was the only victim, but he was the first one to shoot.

Posted by: KT at April 12, 2006 02:09 PM

Somebody please fire Hoffman...TODAY!!! Anyway I sent him an email about how ridicuous he sounded and other people should too....it only took a few minutes

Posted by: Pretty Rikki at April 12, 2006 02:11 PM

yo props for the article i was reading the paper on the train and when i read that piece i got up and was like wtf?! Way beyond disrespectful i wrote to this so called writer way before i read this but im glad someone noticed pure ignorance besides me. East and west coast war??

Posted by: deemehlow at April 12, 2006 02:13 PM

FRom the 2 d12 albums proof was da shining star including em. i really thank his craft and humor dat he displayed on those 2 records especially. we dont know da exact details of what happend so lets just please get our facts straight before expressing an opinion.

although 1 thing could be said for certain we truly appreciated the music you made proof!!!

may youre soul r.i.p for eternity

PEACE

Posted by: Kalvin LONDON at April 12, 2006 02:14 PM

oh YEAH SHIT I FORGOT FUCK DAT REPORTER YOU MOTHA FUKA!!!!!

Posted by: Kalvin LONDON at April 12, 2006 02:16 PM

I didn't know there was still a West Coast vs. East Coast "feud".

I must have missed something.

Posted by: chevy g. hustle at April 12, 2006 02:19 PM

Screw the media.

I wrote that fuck and gave him an assfull.

Posted by: Essex at April 12, 2006 02:28 PM

THIS JUST SHOWS THE SEPERATION IN CULTURES THAT EXISTS TODAY...PEOPLE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE TRUTH.....
PERFECT EXAMPLE OF TRUTHINESS!!

ANYBODY THAT ISN'T WHITE (OR WHITE W/COMMON SENSE!)AND WORKED IN A CORPORATE SETTING KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT...THE IDIOTIC THINGS THAT I HEAR COME OUT OF PEOPLE MOUTH'S!!

Posted by: King Jafee at April 12, 2006 02:30 PM

wow, what a piece of shit, straight up, to say that. idk wut went on there exactly but that is a human life being taken over ignorance. proof and d12 are some of my favorite rappers to listen to, when proof got on a track it was just crazy, and now hes gone, it doesnt even seem real. i remember seeing d12 in concert 2 years ago, proof got pulled into the audience by a few rowdy fans, got back on stage, his hat was gone and chain was both ripped, the first words out of his mouth were "WOW Sayreville, NJ gets fucking wild, i fucking love this shit"
RIP Big Proof you will be remembered in the hearts of all us who truly appreciated you and your music

Posted by: nick at April 12, 2006 02:37 PM

I only buy the Post for Su Doku and kitty litter lining so eff that rag. I sent an email. Doubt I'll get any response.

Posted by: funkdigital at April 12, 2006 02:47 PM

Who does the family of Proof have to pay off over there to keep his name out there mouths anyway. If it worked for some rich white dude...

Posted by: funkdigital at April 12, 2006 02:50 PM

No one can go bash all media outlets as there are some who have some sense rather than demonizing Proof as they have in that headline. Mr. Hoffman appears to want to create a sense of cartoonish disillusion whereas many members of society see hip-hop acts as a disease and it breeds what it sows. Just to let ya know: The NYPost is a 2nd tier newspaper not read by the intelligent public and this contributor and his edititor are damn fools. RIP Proof

Posted by: bonEZ at April 12, 2006 02:55 PM

Shit like this proves how the media just wanna focus, provoke an emphasize nothing but negativity when it comes to hiphop.....the ongoing east coast/west coast rap war? Someone send this nigga to back to '95. R.I.P Dirty Harry. Hold your head Em

Posted by: M at April 12, 2006 02:57 PM

Incredible. Even if there was such a thing as an 'ongoing East Ocast/West Coast war, what would that have to do with an artist from Detroit? This clown needs a geography lesson as well as a slap in the mouth.

Posted by: eskay at April 12, 2006 02:59 PM

This dude is a coward, He can care less about hip hop, Just remember KARMA

Posted by: revrap at April 12, 2006 03:03 PM

that shit is foul and unprofessional RIP PROOF

Posted by: geezy41 at April 12, 2006 03:04 PM

damn, i just tried to email the cracker, and his email must be getting redirected, cuz it sent me a failure of delivery notice...how tha hell do I tell this cracker chicken-shit mutha fucka whats real? anyone got another email addy?

Posted by: GameCityRecords.com at April 12, 2006 03:07 PM

Hey listen man, I have some white friends that are cool n all but you have to admit it: White people dont know shit about us.

They watch Roots to feel like they can connect with us, what do they really know? Like MTV's greatest rapper list, just look who's making it- White people.

Who wrote this flaming ball of ignorace, disrespect and shame? U guessed it, some clueless pre-approved KKK member.

I can forgive him and Proof and ODB are probably laughing at him because racist fucks like him end up in hell, spirraling downwards. We might grow up in a white-man made hell but we march forwards, that's why they cant break us.

Posted by: BlazeMcHerbs at April 12, 2006 03:10 PM

I'msurprised that this guy still has a job. But fuck what he says. I'm a fan. that's all that matters. I don't care what anyone else says that'll never change. Proof was the one in D-12 who stood out the most to me. But todays article was really shocking to me. If he shot a guy in the head first, that means he was trying to kill him. If this guy dies then Proof would've ended up in prison anyway on a murder 1 rap. Maybe would've plead out to murder 2. Anyway you look at it his life and career would've been over. Karma just came around alot quicker for him then it does for most people.
R.I.P Deshaun Holton aka Proof aka Dirty Harry

Posted by: young havok at April 12, 2006 03:12 PM

My letter.....

To: bill.hoffmann@nypost.com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:35:14 -0400

Subject: Bill, you ignorant f**K!!!

Not that I read the post, or beleive any of you actually care about reader comments, but you are all jackass's.
to quote your stupid ignorant story:

"Red-hot rapper Proof - a close pal of Eminem - was executed in a Detroit nightclub early yesterday when a gunman blew his brains out during a heated argument."

"blew his brains out" -- is that the noraml reponse to person being killed? Is this normally how you describe a murder-- of anyone, on any level? Do you describe a soldirs death that way? a policeman's? Shit, a taxi cab driver? NO to all of the above, I guess rappers and black folk in general must not warrant respect, fair treatment when they are killed ,after they are rappers and/or black.

To treat a person death so callously, and negatively just goes to prove how worthless, and how much pure garbage the new york post is. To speak of a person's brains being blown out, is just grossly inapropriate for a so-called journalist and so called newspaper?


BUT WAIT, there's more!!!.......
"It was not immediately known what the argument was about or whether it was part of the ongoing East Coast-West Coast rap war that has claimed such hip-hop greats as the Notorious B.I.G. and Tupac Shakur."

EH????.........that was over 10 years now...what are you stupid?, live under a rock? or ignorant racist bastars that just wants to sensationalize a tragic story that truly does not need to be sensationalized.
...And to make a reference trying to assocaite it with an east/west coast beef, 10 years after the bloodshed has been resolved just proves the racial/cultural borderline you non-knowing morons continually cross. When are you going to become responsible and just report the news as is, without glorifying and sensationalizing the truly tragic story?

Am I pulling the race card, damn right I am, because it is obvious that your story/writer/newspaer is raciually/cuturally biased.

BOYCOTT THE POST, FIRE BILL HOFFMAN!!!!!!
___________________________________
and to dude that brought up the other victim, love and respect go out to him and his family as well. But let me add this, don't be quick to beleive the ALL the hype, let the facts fully come out before we make judgemens on Proofs guilt or innocense. If we jump the gun and run with the sensationalism, then we are no better than the Bill Hoffman's of the world.

Posted by: Lion XL at April 12, 2006 03:13 PM

yo GameCityRecords.com try: letters@nypost.com

go to the front page and choose send a letter.....

Posted by: Lion XL at April 12, 2006 03:17 PM

the more I read it the more I think it's sibliminal racisim
I think he clearly knows the east west wars are over and intentionally did that to piss us off. the question is how to get him back. I think writing him is a waste of time. But attacking his supperiors and challenging Em and Proof family to publically blast them in the media would be more effective. But emailing him he's just going to click delete. Face Suburban America(including suburban blacks) hate inner city black america. In the 90's I think they wanted to understand alittle but now they all pretty much feel that we're all full of excuses piggy bank racism and use the Race Card looking for a chance to get over and that we're a cancer on American Society. Look at the NBA the sibliminal racism is clear as day. They luv the European althletes they play ball the way it's supposed to be play'd the Americans are too flashy and greedy and all about themselves and not the team. 12 Black men went to olympics and they were happy we lost and the american need to learn from the international athletes. Now players can't we jewerly on their way to the arena. There's an arguement over the length of their shorts and they're going to ban tights that we're wearing. Now we can't go pro from high school anymore despite J O'NEAL k bRYANT TMAC D Howard and the endless other stars that made the jump. Somehow I think that would be different if more JJ Redick's and Adam Morrison's had the althletic ability to make the leap.
I guess they want the niggers to pay their dues just like their kids do when they send them to college. The Racial undertones are obvious but we have to play ball cause suburban america is no longer going to b ball games anymore they're just hockey,baseball and football fans now. They hate basket ball cause they feel we f'd up the sport. This reporters views are no different than minds in the white house or anyone other republican or democrat that has no exposure to people in the inner city. The country is run by suburban americans and the majority feel this way!

Posted by: Banga! at April 12, 2006 03:23 PM

Your words:

"Red-hot rapper Proof - a close pal of Eminem - was executed in a Detroit nightclub early yesterday when a gunman blew his brains out during a heated argument."

"It was not immediately known what the argument was about or whether it was part of the ongoing East Coast-West Coast rap war that has claimed such hip-hop greats as the Notorious B.I.G. and Tupac Shakur."

I am just writing to let you know that this is uncalled for. I don't think any family member would appreciate reading this about their loved one that was lost. I just have an opinion, next time think before you actually publish something like this about someone's untimely death. Even if you are not a fan of hip hop it doesn't call for disrespect. Your words alone cause a lot of grief to hip hop fans. I don't think you would like the fact that someone described your untimely death like that. It's just not cool at all. Think about it. People say words don't hurt but that unfortunately is an old myth and words can destroy a person.

Pick better words is all I'm saying. Have a heart if not because he was a rapper at least because he was somebody's son, friend, siginificant other or husband, father, and a hero to someone. No matter what you think people looked up to him, people admired him. This was very uncalled for.

As far as the East-Coast-West Coast thing you have no idea, that this something that the media kind of blew up. But not every rapper is caught up in this type of drama. Some people just want to make money and take care of their families. It's more to hip hop then just murder, drugs and money. This is an ART, what you see on the videos is just another persona to take on this life. Not all of them live this gangsta life as you guys call it.

Anyway just my opinion take it into consideration.

Posted by: Charisma at April 12, 2006 03:23 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is the letter I wrote to the writer.....just thought I'd put that in there

Posted by: Charisma at April 12, 2006 03:25 PM

follow up point
if you think my NBA is off the subject
parallel it to society
the same things, the same siblimal undertones in society are being play'd out in the NBA just draw the parrallels
and you'll see my point

Posted by: Banga! at April 12, 2006 03:28 PM

Here's my letter to the assholes at the post i refuse to buy that paper ever again. I'll beg for another quarter to get the daily then by that page fix piece of shit


It is quite obvious that you are an ignorant, non informed excuse for a journalist for your ridiculous cover of the death of Proof or maybe you should try calling him by his birth name Deshuan Holton. It is clear that you most likely think his was given the name Proof at birth, I mean how else do you explain your tasteless and despicable article. How do you describe a person death as "getting their brains blown out"? You and your paper have absolutely no respect for the hip hop community and from what I've read the African American community period.


"It was not immediately known what the argument was about or whether it was part of the ongoing East Coast-West Coast rap war that has claimed such hip-hop greats as the Notorious B.I.G. and Tupac Shakur."


Get a clue you pompous asshole. Did you forget that Detroit is in the Midwest?. I guess it would have take someone with half a brain to figure that out. Oh yeah by the way that East Coast-West Cost feud that you and your ignorant colleagues created has been on going?. I guess it's be about oh what 10 years now since the death of Notorious B.I.G. So why now after 10 years would a death of a Midwest rapper have anything to do with East Coast-West Coast? Why don't you get some new sources before you try to cover our culture. I am calling for a boycott of your newspaper starting of now, and I will not rest until the hip hop community is felt by what matters to you guys the most. The bottom line.



Sean McKenzie

A Educated Black Man (if you knew we had any)

Posted by: sean at April 12, 2006 03:32 PM

why is it when i send my letter it keeps coming back undeliverable.

Posted by: D****** at April 12, 2006 03:47 PM

Anyways i tried to send it again and this is what i wrote:

Dear Mr. Hoffman,

It saddens me, not only as a African-American but a member of the human race, the lack of respect we show each other. As I was reading your article which detailed the senseless murder of another human being the phrase "blew his brains out" boggled my mind. I had to re-read it again because I could not fathom a grown-up let alone an educated, revered journalist using this phrase to dismiss a person as if he were a character in a video game. While I do not have children, I am someone's daughter, sister, cousin and friend just as Mr.. Holton was a father, a husband, a son, a brother and a friend. Just put yourself in his family's shoes reading your article. Salt in the wound does not convey the hurt they must feel right now. You should be ashamed of yourself and while you do not owe me an apology as a fan of hip-hop whose art and culture just suffered another blow. You do owe his family the courtesy and respect that would be given to any other victim of crime. If you are not going to report the facts as they pertain to the case then you should not comment on the matter, especially when you are so misinformed (east coast/west coast "rap war" has not been an entity in rap for years).

It is media personnel like you and Mr.. Bill O'Reiley that continue to cause a rift in the American culture. Your ignorance is inexcusable

Posted by: D****** at April 12, 2006 03:53 PM

I agree,what was said was disrespectful,taste less,and in the cookie jar of racism. It shouldn't matter what race you are,a lost soul should NEVER be disrespected.There are 5 kids without a father and a wife with no husband.As a medic in the ARMY I deal with death every other day out here. Proof aka Dirty Harry was a rappers rapper. I don't know who did what or any full detail. I don't know the other guy who was shot,but I do know that Proof was one of the voices I heard when I put on my head phones and motivated me. Wether he was telln a story of a kid getting picked on or telln me to drink a 40oz. Thank you Proof for opening that other door to hip hop that lets you be who you want to be. God bless you your family and friends
Sgt Allen

Posted by: Distrucktiv at April 12, 2006 04:16 PM

You guys know the Post is a right wing propoganda paper owned by Rupert Murdoch, correct?

I apologize for not throwing more dis and dats into my post. You're supposed to slang it up on sohh, even if you are an educated man typing on a computer.

Posted by: the truth at April 12, 2006 04:26 PM

No shit...The NY Post is like FOX news on paper.They some redneck racist motherfuckers. I live in NY, and ain't no body read their bullshit. It cost a quarter, so you read the sports and the cartoons. That wak ass rag got Bill Orielly writing editorials for it. Don't get strung out cuz the Post is insulting dead black people...they live for that shit.

Posted by: shake swilla at April 12, 2006 04:28 PM

Isn't it funny how when it comes to hip hop news a writer can be WAY OFF with his information and still get his article published? I mean as if the editor wasn't even reading the part about "brains blew out". This just goes to show that people expect this from hip hop now and that they feel they can talk about it any way they want with no concern of reprisal.

Posted by: BK_Brock at April 12, 2006 04:28 PM

Man fuck all of ya'll dissing the man after he's dead ya'll some bitch ass niggas Come to Southside Queens Idon't like 50 or Ja but I still show my respect for the dead cuz the dead don't talk back if the man was alive ya'll probably wouldn't say that Man UP Ya'll internet Thugs any way See me in the streets of N.Y.C

Posted by: Shawn Shanks at April 12, 2006 04:37 PM

Niggaz stop getting mad , this is the type of shit we as black people LOVE. we love DISRESPECT .then on top of that niggaz dont respect each other and kill one another WHY THE FUCK U EXPECT ANY1 ELSE TO SHOW US COURTESY AND RESPECT?

especially the way we go on.

Posted by: King at April 12, 2006 04:39 PM

Peace, The Mecca is in the building. You know I had to give that ignorant fuck a piece of my mind.............Mr. Hoffman, as member of the Hip-Hop nation, I was deeply disturbed to see your artilcle of the murder of DeShaun "Proof" Holton. The article was written in a very whimsical way, not the type of style you'd expect on a article about a murder. I guess it's goes back to the ole "just another ni&&a dead" thing. I wonder, would your tone has been as disrepectful if Eminem's "brain's were blown out"?

Posted by: Meccadon at April 12, 2006 04:45 PM

You can tell this was a white guy.

Posted by: Tha Undadog at April 12, 2006 04:51 PM

damn,i cant beleive what happen to proof,he got shot in the head two times,and in the area of the stomach two times,i wish i could help proof busting niggaz.i didnt know he had 5 children.damn fuck that suspect.

Posted by: Charlie at April 12, 2006 04:56 PM

Just curious people, If you knew who murdered Proof, would you tell the cops? Does that make you a snitch? Is snitching relative to the situation/person?

Posted by: Meccadon at April 12, 2006 05:02 PM

Niggaz stop getting mad , this is the type of shit we as black people LOVE. we love DISRESPECT .then on top of that niggaz dont respect each other and kill one another WHY THE FUCK U EXPECT ANY1 ELSE TO SHOW US COURTESY AND RESPECT?

especially the way we go on.

Posted by: King at April 12, 2006 05:02 PM

FUCK ALL YOU CORPORATE AMERICA MA FUCCAZ.

YOU TARGET OUR POCKETS 4 DOLLARS, THEN DISS US REPEATLY AND THEN TEACH YOUR KIDS RACISM WHILE THEY GO TO PRIVATE SCHOOL WITH OUR INNER CITY MONEY.

FUCK YOU FOR SAYING SOME DISRESPECTING SHIT ALL THAT...YOU DUMB-FUCK JOURNALIST.

Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 12, 2006 05:04 PM

Shawn Shanks^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Educate yourself brotha for real....
my email...........


Your article today was disgusting...and unprofessional.... "blew his brains out"...cab drivers, celebrities even murderers get more respect...your article was tasteless.....East Coast VS West Coast rivalry is no more...Proof was a rapper from the Midwest....educate yourself before writing these vile articles....I’m wondering if Kurt Cobain would have been disrespected in an article too....

Posted by: Prophetic Poet at April 12, 2006 05:09 PM

this dude need to be fired and then EM and the rest of d 12 need to find him and "whip his head boy" its make me so mad when people (mainly white people) dis hip hop like that like it aint a form of art bet he wouldnt say that shit if it was some country singer or something.

Posted by: BITCH BOY KILLA at April 12, 2006 05:21 PM

I e-mailed that guy and so should everyone else. That guy should be ashamed of himself and so should his editors. RIP Big Proof

Posted by: Rozzwell at April 12, 2006 05:28 PM

fuck that fake ass reporter hoffman, you must have to suck a lot of dick to be named Bill Hoffman, faggot. Proof was is and will always be the shining star of D12, r.i.p. Big Proof, FUCK HOFFMAN

Posted by: j-G---145st at April 12, 2006 05:31 PM

The NY Post runs stories about organized crime every day, sometimes belittling Gotti, the Gambinos, etc. and sometimes glamorizing them. But they don't say blow brains out, it's stuff like when Paulie Costelanno was retired in an ingeniously brash hit. Double standards? check.

As disrespectful as it was, you gotta admit dead Dirty bastard is a great headline.

Posted by: Bill Hoffman at April 12, 2006 05:52 PM

The NY post is one cardboard roll away from toilet paper and no one with a brain cell takes anything they print seriously. The Inquirer has more integrity than the NY Post, and it's printed on better stock. And if they fire Hoffman they'll just put some other inadequate twat muffin in his place. bizness as use you all.

Posted by: Yellow Journalism 0wns at April 12, 2006 06:21 PM

i wrote to that ignorant journalist @ NY Post. He should get a life and find s'thing better to do.

Posted by: grabo at April 12, 2006 06:56 PM

man fuck the NY post :P THEY ARE A BUNCH OF RACIST MOFUCKERS!!!!!! WHOEVER DECIDED TO PRINT THE ARTICLE BY THIS "journalist" WILL BURN IN HELL.
THATS ALL I HAD TO SAY.

IF SOMEONE FROM NY POST DONT GO OUT AND HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE SAYING THEY ARE SORRY FOR THIS AND SAY THEY WILL PAY PROOFS FAMILY LOTS OF CASH AND GIVE THEM.. A FREE LIFETIME SUPPLY OF THEIR SHITTY NY POST :P + INCLUDE 1 PAGE WITH A PICTURE OF REST IN PEACE PROOF IN EVERY NY POST UNTIL THE END OF TIME, IM CALLIN DA MOVEMENT!!! DIPSET BITCH!!!
WE ARE EVERYWHERE!!!!!!NOW WHAT?!

Posted by: TRoy_MclDOy at April 12, 2006 07:08 PM

yeah...the NY Post is a joke...East/West feud...haha how ridiculous is this guy...talk about being clueless/unqualified/out of touch...what a joke

Posted by: pittsburgh4life at April 12, 2006 07:40 PM

First of all I want to say R.I.P. to Proof. I wasn't necessarily a supporter of his when he was alive, but like another blogger said, its a tragedy whenever a Blackman is murdered. Also I'm glad to see some unity with several of you speaking out against that idiotic bill hoffman. A lot of the blogs I see in here feature East vs West vs South ignorance but finally it seems like we're coming together for a common cause. From now on lets keep it like this. Peace.

Posted by: The Layer at April 12, 2006 07:40 PM

It'z some bullshit da way we as black people aka niggaz alwayz get put down...if one of then country muthafuckaz got they shit split itll be front page nationwide but youd probably find Proof in one of the small articles you really gotta look for...well fuck it cause we gotta move on in memory of our nigga Proof and even though i aint know da homie i think he would want the hip hop nation to keep gettin money respectively like they been doin and also i hope niggaz dont start tryina act like they been long time fans of Proof cause thatz just plain fake I wish da best for da D-12 family as well as Proof's family, Eminem and even though i dont LOVE g-unit i hope they can recover well 2. R.I.P. Proof. We gon miss you

Posted by: Face at April 12, 2006 07:45 PM

Instead of just emailing him start emailing his editors and send emails to the opinion page.

Posted by: kingd40 at April 12, 2006 07:50 PM

when ever they freed Pimp C SOHH told the world... okey who gives a fuck bout him nigga, but when a real legend gets out they didnt say shit, what!?

March 19 C-Murder was released from jail

Ya niggas give him a minut to get off the house arrest and straight fire gonna be commin outta new orleans nigga

Posted by: hoodlum at April 12, 2006 07:53 PM

Isnt this the SAME guy who said something disrespectful about Aaliyah after she passed??

Posted by: Slim at April 12, 2006 08:04 PM

I have to say, I am absolutely appaled by this slanderous remark in the New york Post. If this was in the New York Times, the author of the piece would of been fired immediately and an apology letter would of been posted. Such utter disrespect towards the dead is unnecessary.

Posted by: Supreme Dunk at April 12, 2006 08:08 PM

Fuck that they make it seem... (they as in the OTHER guys family) that proof just pulled out a gun and shot the guy in the head??? Fuckin bull shit, Im sure they both pulled guns out on eatch other at the same time and proof got his punk ass before he could even pull the trigger. THEN some punk motherfucker shoots proof from the side or something... fuckin coward shit! QUIT KILLING THE REAL RAPPERS! RIP PROOF, MAC DRE, TUPAC, and BIGGIE, I know there is more but those are the real!

Posted by: Tre at April 12, 2006 08:18 PM

hoffman u fuck up!!! i should whip yo ass,but there's been to much violence already,wat da hell do u kno bout da east and west coast not a damn thang!! who publices this guy shit?!they should burn in hell the heartless bastards!! why "proof"?why "anybody"?proof...R.I.P dogg...and hoffman burn in hell bitch!!!

Posted by: KidProof at April 12, 2006 08:37 PM

This is what I posted when I sent my response to Bill Hoffman.

To Bill Hoffman's dumb ass...

Seriously though, are you kidding me? That article you wrote about Proof's murder is some garbage and the way you phrased it was real disrespectful.

"Red-hot rapper Proof - a close pal of Eminem - was executed in a Detroit nightclub early yesterday when a gunman blew his brains out during a heated argument."

Are you fucking serious? Why would you write some shit like "...a gunman blew his brains out..." That was real foul and tasteless to say the least. It's crazy how you dumb ass journalists write about peoples deaths. I'm sure if it was a white entertainer, you would've phrased that differently, but since it's a black entertainer, one who's in the rap industry, y'all think it's funny to make jokes about it and dismiss it like it's not a big thing.

The you come with this bullshit...

"It was not immediately known what the argument was about or whether it was part of the ongoing East Coast-West Coast rap war that has claimed such hip-hop greats as the Notorious B.I.G. and Tupac Shakur."

I'm sorry but that is funny to say the least because there really was no "East Coast-West Coast beef." That was just some bullshit, the media made up and if you knew anything about hip hop, you would know that. The so-called "East Coast-West Coast beef" doesn't play any role in this whatsoever. It's funny how people like you expose your ignorance so readily. People like you shouldn't be in any position to write articles about hip hop artists, especially when you write ignorant, tasteless shit like that and don't really know the real facts.

Posted by: THE HARDEST HARCORE NIGGA ON THE BLOCK at April 12, 2006 08:39 PM

I hope the irons haven't cooled off too soon... here is the address we should be writing... cshaw@nypost.com he is the Online editorial and news guy. I personally didn't love proof's solo work but he was still a good guy from what I hear.
That isn't the point though. Billy boy said that his brains were blown out. That doesn't exactly inspire the most positive image now does it. I wonder if Bill was writing a piece on JFK, Lincoln, or John Lennon would he still write some shit like that???

Posted by: manNmirror at April 12, 2006 08:41 PM

Thats MAD disrespectful!!!

Posted by: Jrocafella at April 12, 2006 08:54 PM

Good lookin manNmirror, I forwarded my e-mail to cshaw...I guess hoffman musta got MAD e-mail complaints because all his e-mails are bouncing back. Scary a$$ white boy

Posted by: Meccadon at April 12, 2006 09:13 PM

i just like to get my point across u know i aint from the hood or the ghetto n e of that im white u know but what can u do n proofs murder has been a shock to all of us but ima use to this oppurtunity to just say if n e thing this should bring all cultures closer together i treat the a black person the same way i treat a white person i dont see no difference n old black lady gets on a bus with no seats i would get up to give her my seat i would just like to say there is white people who r ignornt rascist dikheads the same there is black dikheads n asian all cultures have there dikheads n i just hope that white folk arent all judged by this hoffman dikhead
R.I.P Proof

Posted by: TuShae at April 12, 2006 09:19 PM

by the way n e comments send it to me nemisis@utvinternet.ie

Posted by: TuShae at April 12, 2006 09:20 PM

It is time to unite all the black MEN and prove we are nothing but faggots. What do you think we have big lips for. USe them black men. No jobs..............thats the cool thing you ashy muthafuckas. Everyone com to my house, i have 70 pounds of lotion waiting to be used on the first 17 black men i see.

Posted by: Meccadon at April 12, 2006 09:21 PM

Looks like he took the SOHH.com article and messed up the info! "The other victim, an unidentified 35-year-old man, was also shot in the head and was in critical condition." How can he be 35 yrs old but unidentified!?
"Cops said bullets flew around 4:45 a.m. during a loud squabble between two parties. Police were hunting for the gunman last night after gathering evidence that included bloodstains on the street and empty shell casings in a nearby parking lot."
WTF is this!? I'm writing him a letter now.

Posted by: R.I.P.Proof at April 12, 2006 09:26 PM

TuShae you ugly bitch.........you look like a wolverine on painkillers. Your mothers was a whore for 3 years and here nickname was gobble throat jackson. You work at your local best buy making sure the flys dont get in the store. you lost you asshole

Posted by: carl winslow at April 12, 2006 09:26 PM

proof was eminem's bitch. the day he dies was the best day i had in a long time.

Posted by: carl winslow at April 12, 2006 09:28 PM

PROOF SHOULDNT BEEN IN A NIGHTCLUB AT 4 A.M . HE SHOT AT THE GUY MAYBE THINKING HE WOULD OR WOULDNT GET SHOT BACK AT . HE IS EMINEMS BITCH I BET EMINEMS CRYING OVER HIM AND GOING TO WRITE A SONG ABOUT HIS BABY BOO GONE . HE SHOULD OF BEEN HOME WITH HIS 5 CHILDREN AND WIFE. I DONT FEEL SORRY FOR NOONE BUT HIS KIDS .

Posted by: PROOF WHO at April 12, 2006 09:33 PM

on the level my man shouldnt be shooting off, but no man deserves to die and no matter what the situation people shouldnt speak ill of the dead, lets just hope none of you manz dissing on this forum get into a situation like it cos boy karma's a bitch

Posted by: sarky at April 12, 2006 09:48 PM

It is time to unite all the black MEN and prove we are nothing but faggots. What do you think we have big lips for. USe them black men. No jobs..............thats the cool thing you ashy muthafuckas. Everyone com to my house, i have 70 pounds of lotion waiting to be used on the first 17 black men i see.

Posted by: Meccadon at April 12, 2006 09:21 PM


fuckin frauds. that's why i got off here before, fag nigga's and punk ass white boy on here with their tricknology. get a life; fuckboi!

Posted by: Meccadon at April 12, 2006 09:51 PM

I like to suck dick, especially Hoodlum's and EnglandRepresent's.

Posted by: Meccadon at April 12, 2006 09:56 PM

I like to suck dick, especially Hoodlum's and EnglandRepresent's.

Posted by: Meccadon at April 12, 2006 09:56 PM

Let it go you clown. Go read a book or somethin'.

Posted by: Meccdon at April 12, 2006 10:19 PM

Since catz wanna play with my tag, I gotta a surprise. just click on my link.....

Posted by: Meccadon at April 12, 2006 10:30 PM

Meccadon: What up son, I see these rugrats perpetratin you too huh, these juvenile delinquents need to be locked up and the key should be thrown away.

Posted by: EnglandRepresent at April 12, 2006 11:25 PM

a man i think proof is coo as hell as a person I mean look what he did for Em man thats kind of weired that he passed away i mean can you really look at D-12 the same? Im not a fan of D12 but im just sayin was he like the heart of the group plus he was the reason why the whole eminem career took off like it did a R.I.P to proof and to that news paper reporter you know you should get hurt for being ignorient like that 4real im not going to say somthin crazy im gonna just leave it like that a Em gonna have more problems now i mean the whole depression family most got em goin crazy r.i.p proof and em take it eazy man u gonna be all right imout

Posted by: Tyron *MATHAFUKKIN* Biggums Jr at April 12, 2006 11:31 PM

Ok, yesterday i boo-hooed & called everybody in the D haters because of Proof's murder. Now I read, Proof shot the other dude, then got peeled by dudes nigga. Whatever happened,it's bullshit. 1 black man dead+1 black man in critical+1 black man on the run= 1 happy mr.charley! Niggas need to learn!

Posted by: yum at April 12, 2006 11:48 PM

Peace EnglandRepresent & Yum. These frauds and fakes are back at it hard. It's a damn shame nigga's are still gettin murked because they stepped on someone's shoes, that's so '88

Posted by: Mecccadon at April 12, 2006 11:54 PM

i think that guy should get his brains blown out, how dare he disrespect proof i was shattered when i heard this news, RIP Proof

Posted by: MinoXide at April 13, 2006 12:10 AM

I E-Mailed This Cat but all e-mails
were returned *ROLLS EYES* heres what
I said!!!

You are a souless person a racist & a
lame mufucka im sure your corporate &
racist ass finds it entertaining that
tha MC proof was killed. & your non
informed ass gets a kick out of it,this
was not because of hip-hop this was a
random act of violence by both parties.
You sit behind your safe computer
mockin & talkin ya lil shit & another
black man is dead. This
wasn't beef as you
corporate niggas say, you don't
know what beef is in any aspect of tha
word. It's journalists like yourself
that killed BIG & PAC you are a shit
stain on tha human race & you have
absolutely no idea what hip-hop is or
represents this wasn't hip-hop related.
Shit happens when you from tha ghetto
nigggas die senselessly erryday & get
no media coverage what so ever. But
now that a MC
dies it's just another dead
rapper in a beef & you with your ivy
league education get to judge this man.
It wasn't a rapper that was killed it
was a man with 5 children & a family do
not trivialize this mans life when you
would back down in 5 seconds from a
fight. You throw ya lil shots from tha
shadows & run like a coward you are not
a man you are a heartless person that
doesn't know tha meaning of what a man is.
I came on your turf are you willin
to come on mine???????

(I don't know how to put my
shit together on here if it
looks thin & weird I aint a
computer cat I was 13 when
AOL came out forgive me for
my ignance)

Posted by: 3rd Coast at April 13, 2006 12:13 AM

IF ONLY IT COULD HAVE BEEN THAT UGLY NIGGAR 50 CENT!!!...a bunch of talentless bums...everyone from Kanye, to T.I. to Obie Trice can die as far as I'm concerned. Nothing but a bunch of stupid marketing Gimmicks...theyv ruined rap music. Now its nothing but half naked girls cars and a black guy playing with money in EVERY SINGLE video!!!!!....ok i guess Kanye trys to do it a lil different, but he does it in such a way, that hes "uniquely diverse" in a "mainstream way" which is just as bad. Rap music has literally been completly ruined in the last 6 or 7 years by a bunch of unintelligent scum. Being a gangster is not cool...if you have as much money as some of these jokers and you still have to walk with a limp and buy $10,000 pairs of shoes in your video, then you deserve to die....people like 50 cent who were all over the late, tupac shakurs recycled cd's, dont have any right being anywhere near them..a guy like 50 cent and g-unit who talk as much unnesisary horse shit to everyone havnt learned the one thing 2pac and Biggie truly taught us...and that is that violence is rediculous....and the worst part about it is that all you kids are so blind to the media, you follow these dicks and copy there actions........Immortal Technique...and Bone Thugs N Harmony are the only respectable icon's in hip-hop and rap other than the obvious 2pac and so on.....

Posted by: nate at April 13, 2006 12:16 AM

I'll lick any niggaz balls for free.

Posted by: Meccadon at April 13, 2006 12:30 AM

For the last and final time. I am a faggot who loves dick, please accept me as I am.

Posted by: EnglandRepresent at April 13, 2006 12:35 AM

Fraud go bang some heroin. Fuckboi. Show yourself, bitch

Posted by: Meccadon at April 13, 2006 12:36 AM

"IF ONLY IT COULD HAVE BEEN THAT UGLY NIGGAR 50 CENT!!!...a bunch of talentless bums...everyone from Kanye, to T.I. to Obie Trice can die as far as I'm concerned. Nothing but a bunch of stupid marketing Gimmicks...theyv ruined rap music. Now its nothing but half naked girls cars and a black guy playing with money in EVERY SINGLE video!!!!!....ok i guess Kanye trys to do it a lil different, but he does it in such a way, that hes "uniquely diverse" in a "mainstream way" which is just as bad. Rap music has literally been completly ruined in the last 6 or 7 years by a bunch of unintelligent scum. Being a gangster is not cool...if you have as much money as some of these jokers and you still have to walk with a limp and buy $10,000 pairs of shoes in your video, then you deserve to die....people like 50 cent who were all over the late, tupac shakurs recycled cd's, dont have any right being anywhere near them..a guy like 50 cent and g-unit who talk as much unnesisary horse shit to everyone havnt learned the one thing 2pac and Biggie truly taught us...and that is that violence is rediculous....and the worst part about it is that all you kids are so blind to the media, you follow these dicks and copy there actions........Immortal Technique...and Bone Thugs N Harmony are the only respectable icon's in hip-hop and rap other than the obvious 2pac and so on....."

Posted by: nate at April 13, 2006 12:16 AM

You have no idea what tha fuck you
talkin bout at all you have no idea
what hip-hop is or what talent is
your oppinion is worth bout as much
as a hunk a shit on a bare foot. 3rd

"For the last and final time. I am a faggot who loves dick, please accept me as I am."

Posted by: EnglandRepresent at April 13, 2006 12:35 AM

EnglandRepresent I did have respect for
yo oppinions but you tha same as erry
other 12yr old lame ass nigga on here!
3rd

Posted by: 3rd Coast at April 13, 2006 12:55 AM

white dude prolly dont even know who he is. Reporter jus lookin to sell his shit on the streets.

R.I.P Proof mad <3 dawg

Posted by: mc3zz at April 13, 2006 12:58 AM

FUCK THAT DISRESPECTFUL, TASTELESS,TACKY, IGGNORANT-ASS, FAGGOT MOTHER FUCKER!!!! PROOF WAS THE REALIEST EMCEE AROUND. MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO FRIENDS, FAMILY, AND EVERYONE AFFECTED BY THIS. REST IN PEACE PROOF

Posted by: C-GOOD at April 13, 2006 01:04 AM

the media still calls all this crunk, snap shit and whatever else gangsta rap, while niggas is going all out cryin online about atl vs NYC and shit. Hope you niggas see that no matter what we kick over a beat about strippers and rims we still aint shit and dont give much of an argument with our music that we are relivant outside of videos. Southern fans/artist are chasing the 'allmighty carrot' right now and are ready to go to war with any body who dont feel none of they shit. There will be more deaths and plenty of blogs to come, we're too stupid to see what we're doing to our own shit and are proud of it, hell most southern fans dont even care about hip hop longevity they just want props, nasty rented stripper ass, and rims to talk about I guess, like nothing else matters now that they got some say so. You have the publics attention as NYC had over the years you gotta come with it now! laffy taffy etc wont cut it, hard to stay #1....

Posted by: dialect at April 13, 2006 01:09 AM

and spare me with the 'stop hatin' frenzy you new niggas be on. that shit is disgusting...

Posted by: dialect at April 13, 2006 01:11 AM

OMFG PROOF ...UR LIKE DA BEST I CANT BELIVE YOUR GONE.. I MEBER WEN I MET U U WERE THE FUNNIEST ONE I MISS YOU SO FUCKING MUCH ..I HOPE EMINEM TAKES DIS SHIT WELL CUZ I KNO HE WILL END UP KILLING HIMSELF

::::tears::::

Posted by: Gina at April 13, 2006 02:28 AM

To: bill.hoffmann@nypost.com
Subject: O'Reilly groupie?
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:46 AM
Your article regarding the murder of the rapper known as "Proof" was absolutely disrespectful and inappropriate. You are apparently an ignorant bigot whose immaturity and skewed views towards a culture have been excellently displayed via this article. There are no words to express my disbelief regarding the publication of such a tasteless posting. How about you stick to issues you know and can understand? Because obviously hip-hop is not one of them. East Coast-West Coast?!? Are you serious? It's 2006 you know? Grow up, William! One day you'll be able to publicly display your detestment of blacks and/or a part of their culture freely, as history tends to repeat itself, but as for now try to be a little sensible or discreet.

Sincerely,
OOIIIIIIIIIIID

Posted by: topcontender at April 13, 2006 02:52 AM

man i'ts crazy out here in the feild that we all play.thats why we have to keep our cool as black pll and pll in general.we all have problems and we don't need to walk around as if we are the hardest on the streets cause anybody and everybody can be touched.and did'nt em do video with proof getting shoot.I think it was (toy soldier).thats what you are if you living this life it's not fun nor glamoris pll are dying out here B, and for what thier ego.not for a reason B

Posted by: dipset at April 13, 2006 05:05 AM

wow! Thats some serius sh1t right there. RIP Proof. Im a big fan.

Posted by: real talk at April 13, 2006 05:09 AM

It is fucking amazing how the people who have spoke on this board have managed to turn this tragic event in to a black against white. It is time for people to realise when something happens to the black community it will not always be something to do with racism. I would say the time to get off of the moral high-horse has come racism cannot be used as an excuse for everything.

On another note this article is fucked up, to speak about someones son, someones father in this way...well it's just the lowest of the low. I am just hoping that someone speaks out publicly about this ass hole who seems to have the writing abilities of a fucking five year old. Proof was an amazing rapper who did not get time to show the world everything he had, which is a great loss. He truly will go down as one of the greats.

R.I.P Proof

P.S. In the video for "Like Toy Soldiers" Proof did get shot ad died.

Posted by: Ryan at April 13, 2006 05:46 AM

AN EMAIL I SENT BILL HOFFMAN FROM THE UK::::

Dear Sir,

I am writing to complain about your report on the killing to Proof- AKA Deshaun Holton. The way your reported it shows a severe lack of respect for the dead, the family and friends. It was insenesitve, unprofessional and an absolute disgrace to your profession.

I first take great offence when you reported Proof to have his 'Brains Blown out'- this is purley sadistic, clearly taking enjoyment from what you are saying. In the same article you link Proofs death with 2pac and Notorious BIG- '
It was not immediately known what the argument was about or whether it was part of the ongoing East Coast-West Coast rap war that has claimed such hip-hop greats as the Notorious B.I.G. and Tupac Shakur

This is just illinformed and grosly misleading to your readers. It is clear you don't have a respect for the dead or a knowledge of Hip Hop.

You are personally a disgracet yourself, your family and your profession who clearly takes pleasure in reporting this news. Your Journalism is of the lowest order. This is coming from a UK resident who knows what the press are like here.

Sincerley

Simon Moores

Posted by: Simon Moores at April 13, 2006 06:11 AM

Oh and I am white and I take offence to mc3zz at April 13 saying 'white dude prolly dunno who he is' and dipset saying 'we have to keep our cool as black pll'. Both comments are ignorant:

1) Im white and i felt proof to the core. his death stunned and upset me more than any news.

2) This wasnt racially motivated, it was 2 people in a club and it got out of hand.

Proof is such a loss. Lets keep it to remembering him and not get all philsophical like every young black man thinks he has to after an event like this. remember you are not all malcolm x or Tupac Shakur. Lets keep it real and remember proof

Posted by: simon moores at April 13, 2006 06:55 AM

Not only is that comment beyond disrespectful, it highlights a wider social problem of LACK of RESPECT for the rap culture and those associated with it.. Hoffman is a problem..

and even my mother just read it and said "WHAT feud?"

Posted by: emma at April 13, 2006 07:23 AM

This artical that hoffman has done is highly disrespeting to the memory of Proof. As soon as i read it i sent a e-mail to the fucker telling him to keep his mouth shut. I've been a fan of Proof since i first heard him on the Marshall Mathers LP. Proof was a great MC and music was his world. I hope he's back with his fallen mates such as Bugz. Big Proof 4 eva R.I.P. You'll be missed.

Posted by: Sinead at April 13, 2006 08:17 AM

YO NOT TO BE MEAN BE WHO REALLY GIVES TWO FUCKS ABOUT THE SECOND PERSON THAT GOT SHOT.

Posted by: AC at April 13, 2006 08:45 AM

Just spitting the facts...

1. Proof pistol whipped the bouncer after an argument over A POOL GAME!!!

2. Proof pulled out his registered pistol, aimed at this bouncers head and FIRED A BULLET INTO HIS HEAD!!!

3. Proof was shot down by another bouncer who witnessed him SHOOT FIRST!!!

You fucks talk about black, white, media, respect... WHERES THE FUCKING RESPECT FOR THE BOUNCER WHO ARGUED AND IS NOW IN ICU in CRITICAL CONDITION!!! Trust me I liked proof and d12 is a group that seemed to not really WANT BEEF, in respect to being shit talkers. It was unfortunate he was shot arguing over pool (and shooting a man in the head FIRST!!!.) JUST BECAUSE HE'S A FUCKING RAPPER DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HIP HOP YOU FUCKING SONS OF BITCHES! That goes for BILL HOFFMAN and YOU FUCKING BLOG TERRORISTS... But who listens right?

Posted by: FactZ at April 13, 2006 08:46 AM

One news report said that the suspect who killed Proof turned himself in alleging that Proof "pistol whipped" him in the head.

At this point, regardless of the specifics and how the maylay ensued,
some mother's son,
some children's father,
somebody's brother,
is not coming home again...
and the situation remains sad...

My prayers are with both the victim and the perpetrator because however we assess it "two" families are losing their sons just in different ways.

Posted by: Dana in Jersey at April 13, 2006 09:51 AM

Yo I thought I was the only one who thought that.....then these pickleheads go on to say that it may have been part of 'the ongoing east coast-west coast beef'........How backed up is that? F the Post

Posted by: gfresh at April 13, 2006 10:06 AM

about the hell thing, proof is going to hell he shot the guy first

Posted by: dan at April 13, 2006 10:43 AM

I wonder if Proof's brains were literally blown out as suggested by that writer?!? That'd be cool, man! Just like a movie or something! BANG BANG BANG BANG, SPLAT, SPLURSH, SPLOCK, SPLUCK! Dang that'd be cool!

Posted by: Ratatatat at April 13, 2006 10:43 AM

I dont know whether its more funny or sad to read articles where these white journalist comment or even critic music they dont even listen to themselves. They often misspell an artist's name and get certain fatcs wrong. To even suggest that Proof's death may have been a result of an East Coast, West Coast beef just shows you how much these so called journalist know.

Posted by: Jaye at April 13, 2006 10:45 AM

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CHECK OUT YA BOY L.A.X.

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IT'Z THE CURE FOR HIP HOP!!!!!!

Posted by: L.A.X. at April 13, 2006 10:56 AM

I wrote that faggot a letter, too, anyone with respect for hip-hop should, too.

Posted by: DJ Lucky Luke at April 13, 2006 11:10 AM

live by the gun die by the gun i feel no sorrow for that man he tried to take another mans life. he got his takein ,and it had nothin to do with hip hop. put the guns down go hand to hand i bet 99% of those so called g's get taht ass whip whip it real hard.1

Posted by: justplay61 at April 13, 2006 11:31 AM

Manz shudnt bring up d past at the present when it aint gunna change d future. Respect & Dignity is wat dat reporter has lost from Proofs family, friends and all of us who appreciated Proofs dedication 2 his music & his life. It dont matter who shot first, at the end of the day 1 man gotta live with it 4 d rest of his life & if his mama taught him 2 believe in God, he shuld be taught that God has turned his back on him now. every man gotta watch his own back, cos aint nobody gunna do it 4 u. his music will live on jus like Biggie & Tupac which is the important thing after death, that they still live on in our hearts and souls. R.I.P all of y'all! xxx

Posted by: Lisa Uk at April 13, 2006 11:46 AM

AS THE EVIDENCE IS STARTING TO COME OUT. IT SEEMS PROOF WAS ASKING FOR IT. SO THATS JUST WHAT HE GOT , PROOF! BANG BANG GANG ANYWHERE. PEACE TO MAINO.

Posted by: LaDae at April 13, 2006 11:47 AM

My Letter to the dickhead.....


Mr. Hoffman, (please feel free to respond)


I first would like to start off by saying that this could be a very rude and painfully honest letter. The article that you wrote about Eminem's "homey getting blown away" showed your evident lack of class and integrity. If you have an issue with black people or hip-hop in general you should address it directly. Be a man about it. Taking situations like these to take potshots at those whom you dislike is the sign of a coward. There are racist people all over this world so we (as black people) really don't care if you add yourself to the list. To me it's just another out of touch white man who will never get "it". For instance you mention the "East Coast/West Coast Rap War". GET A LIFE!! That ended with the death of two men, one of whom would probably be the Malcolm X/Martin Luther King Jr. of our day. And you even reference them in your SHITTY article only to disrespect their names and tie them to senseless violence as if that's what they stood for. I will admit that the black community and Hip-Hop definitely have issues to iron out but you using the tragic death of someone to have your half-hearted laugh in your downtown office with a cup of expresso is just plain WRONG. Please believe me, karma is very real and you will someday have to deal with all of the crap that you have used against others. You WILL be judged, not necessarily by a "God" if that's not what you believe in (which I believe is true as evidenced by your apparent lack of compassion) but by nature itself. Everything is a circle and goes around 360 degrees. I would just keep that in mind when printing BULLSHIT like you have with this article. Hope I gave you something to think about Mr. Hoffman. Please in the future I would consider being a little more heart and a little less dick. Have a nice day.

James

Posted by: dish at April 13, 2006 11:49 AM

the post writes this way about normal people getting shot, too. it's nothing new. sorry your little rapper was disrespected in the article. try imagining reading about your brother or son's death and hearing they were "blown away" or had their "brains blown out"

Posted by: diddy at April 13, 2006 12:31 PM

Aiyo, dont even rise to it ma nigga, dats exactly wat the devil wants u to do get rite up on an email or call up and throw disses!!! PAY THAT WHITE BOY NO MIND... CLEARLY A RACIAL THANG!!! LETS KEEP IT MOVING!!! R.I.P DERRTY HARRY AKA PROOF!!!!

Posted by: NANNIO at April 13, 2006 02:14 PM

I just wrote to that faggot(REAL HOMO)

Stand up 4 somthing people!!!!!

Write to that direspectful bi**h.

If we can write back/forth to each other on here than it shouldnt be a problem to tell that prick how you feel.

bill.hoffmann@nypost.com

Posted by: Mr. WTF at April 13, 2006 03:23 PM

I just wrote to that faggot(REAL HOMO)

Stand up 4 somthing people!!!!!

Write to that direspectful bi**h.

If we can write back/forth to each other on here than it shouldnt be a problem to tell that prick how you feel.

bill.hoffmann@nypost.com

Posted by: Mr. WTF at April 13, 2006 03:24 PM

Proof was a real inspiration and talent to the RAP/HIP-HOP genre. People don't seem to remember back to when Bugz got shot, they just think he's another rapper like Biggie or Tupac, he's still someone's father/brother/husband/boyfriend or whatever and thats all that counts. Instead of shooting him in the head they could have just put him in jail instead. The other guy he shot isn't even dead so why should Proof be six feet under. It's OK Proof, I'm witcha homie. Rest In Peace... The real HIP-HOP fans will agree with me, the one's who don't can get fucked... D12 forever...

Posted by: KMS at April 13, 2006 07:01 PM

Uummm...you shouldn't be writing to the writer. That's like sending a written complaint about the McD's worker that served you cold fries to the McD's worker that served you cold fries. You should send it to the editor. If the writer's coverage was poor, his boss should know about it.

Posted by: built4this at April 13, 2006 07:33 PM

lol i read that article 2day it was like in the middle of the paper in a little ass part in the bottom of the page n i thought the SAME EXACT SHIT when i read about his east coast-west coast theory whata fuckin ignant ass cracka

Posted by: bo0st yAa at April 13, 2006 09:23 PM

HoFF someone gotta tak'U off,motherfucka , we see how smart he is now ,need to go back get his degree cuz he got non'thing 2 say on his paper , he is full of shit and he ain't got no skills ,shame for the world , those need
to be clean with the cleanex ,I give u an f and I put you just right after the last dum ass in the world,kiss my black ass , my love for my bro goes with a triple X and you don't mess with it

Posted by: Lucino at April 14, 2006 12:16 AM

they did tha same thing when Aaliyah died. it was the same newspaper too. and u know what I think it's the same guy too.

Posted by: bajanprincess at April 14, 2006 09:18 AM

It's disgusting that a NY newspaper has suck a moron working in their midst. How hard is it, really, to type in the name of any rapper on Google and get a little insight on him/her before write some bullshit like that.....I guess rappers are a dime a dozen so who cares if we mis-represent hm/her, they are all the same.....DISGUSTING....

Posted by: Engineer at April 14, 2006 12:19 PM

yo its all good tho niggas wildin thats how he got life token but thats crazy cuz most of them fake niggas wanna shot put up an hand to hand contact lets see who gangsta me or u to let ya'll half ass cats no sumthing if wanna be called gangsta kill sumthin don't be afraid since so gangsta cuz thats what makes real nigga heat think about it go out in the blaze lets c who gangsta then u never wanna live that life trust me u will change gangsta die thugz live must of ya'll r fake yo if called gangsta then why ain't die then my point

Posted by: soulija at April 14, 2006 12:46 PM

Im am so sick of hearing about this topic, people make it seem like he was Tupac or something...he wasnt even close...people need to get a fucking life...i like the way the writer expressed his thoughts...just another fucking thug off the streets of detroit.

Proof's death was very sad for the city of Detroit, and i feel for his family and friends. But to be honest, i really dont see a big deal in the whole situation. I was always taught that if you live by the gun you die by the gun...rappers are not teaching todays youth the importance of living and doing the right thing. Im from the city and people get killed all the time, you think im morning for Proof? A lil boy's mother died in his arms as he tried to call 911, and every one is worried about Proof? Dont get me wrong, Proof was a great artist but what about the message he sent out? No one stops and things about ALL the murders that happens to kids and innocent people every day in urban areas all over the world, people only care about a person whom they will never meet and some one that never even knew they even exsited. I feel bad but im not going to stop my world from moving because another rapper felt the need to live out his lyrics...the world is to set on celebs instead of their own well being. If you ask me its just another "black eye" to the city of Detroit. We all need to get right and start making changes to ourselves to make the cites we live in a better place. Rappers getting shot and killed will only keep happening and then there will be someone else crying over how sad that they are that their favorite rapper was shot. Its redundant and stupid and it doesnt shock me the least bit...ill just be waiting for it to happen again.

Posted by: T.C at April 14, 2006 01:18 PM

How did that guy get such a job??? I think i move to ny and take his job if its that easy!!! i think he's just one of those that are allowed to make statements and heat, so more people will buy their newspaper. i hope his wife and kids hate him!

Posted by: FC at April 14, 2006 01:32 PM

fuckin shit still don't believe he's gone

Posted by: deathrow at April 14, 2006 01:47 PM

It shoudnt matter whether its East/West the fact is a dear family member and close frend has been lost and people wana stop thinkin they no evryfin wen they dont.. n be a lil more sensitive towards the thoughts and grief that people are suffering and show sum fukin respect

Posted by: Derelle at April 14, 2006 01:55 PM

Your a low life s.o.a.b you haveno heart just wait till something happens to you come on people tell what u think fuk this journal guy hes a dick and he'll get his one day so he can go fuk himself

Posted by: wyteboy at April 14, 2006 02:11 PM

Guy who wrote the long story:
No one's going to stop their day because Proof died, same thing as if I DIED writing this sentence. But he had millions of fans who liked him, and his music, and now he's gone. I feel bad for the mother who died in her little boys hands, but death is everywhere, someone dies every second. Proof's death is no different, but he had many people who loved him, so its hard on millions of people rather then just twenty or so.

Posted by: Jim Thorpe at April 14, 2006 04:31 PM

as always , white media mocks everything about black culture , but turn around and use the same culture to sell thiing in the hood. its does nothing but please the white man when we kill ourselves so savagely,they enjoy wrinting articles like that. i mean dude stilll talkin east/west beef, cracka please . make fun of curt cobain , blowin his brains out at least proof from whut i heard was defendin himself ya know . make fun of crackhead robert downey dumb ass, they turn around and give him millz for bullshit movies , come on , fuck the white folks

Posted by: ronmexico-06 at April 14, 2006 04:32 PM

as always , white media mocks everything about black culture , but turn around and use the same culture to sell thiing in the hood. its does nothing but please the white man when we kill ourselves so savagely,they enjoy writing articles like that. i mean dude still talkin east/west beef, cracka please . make fun of curt cobain , blowin his brains out at least proof from whut i heard was defendin himself ya know . make fun of crackhead robert downey dumb ass, they turn around and give him millz for bullshit movies , come on , fuck the white folks

Posted by: ronmexico-06 at April 14, 2006 04:33 PM

as always , white media mocks everything about black culture , but turn around and use the same culture to sell thiing in the hood. its does nothing but please the white man when we kill ourselves so savagely,they enjoy writing articles like that. i mean dude still talkin east/west beef, cracka please . make fun of curt cobain , blowin his brains out at least proof from whut i heard was defendin himself ya know . make fun of crackhead robert downey dumb ass, they turn around and give him millz for bullshit movies , come on , fuck the white folks

Posted by: ronmexico-06 at April 14, 2006 04:33 PM

New Yorkers know the New York Post isn't a very good newspaper. They do this repeatedly. Those who work at the Post will not change the way they write their articles.

Posted by: helen at April 14, 2006 05:53 PM

u may think my thought is whack but here it is.... as someone mentioned before a email to fuck face is a click away from delete but another newspaper may stand up and speak out for the disrespect that has been shown not only for our fallin' soldier, R.I.P. Proof, but the many others this ass hole has wrote off as if they meant nothing to no one, that is if enough people send a letter to them. as for the people who say proof deserves what he got because he pulled the heat first, as lion xl said much respect and prayers to the other victum and his family but you need to get all the facts before going that far. don't get me wrong everyone is entitled to their opinion but just to let you know there are now witnesses stepping foward besides the other victum's family members saying bender, the other victum, pulled a gun first and as the man who shot proof ran off he took bender's gun with him. just a thought to keep in mind.
R.I.P. Proof

Posted by: j at April 14, 2006 08:36 PM

god bless u>>>>>>detroit>>>>>>the blackman@cdbaby.com>>>>>>>>beast crew biiiiiiiitchhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Posted by: the blackman at April 14, 2006 10:37 PM

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