Late last week Lupe Fiasco's debut album got the Yousendit treatment and was leaked via dozens of message boards, blogs, and backroom AIM convos. Atlantic, the label set to profit from a proper release of the "Food and Liquor" album in May has been going bananas trying to put the genie back in the bottle, while Lupe has been resigned that his career will be further stalled by a scrapped release date.
I say stop the nonsense. Common's platinum album was "freed" on the net wires weeks before the real one dropped. And I had a Kanye mixtape of "College Dropout" that included pre-mix versions of almost all the album tracks, plus some that didn't make the sample clearance cut. Yet I still went out to buy the official-official.
So far the leak has created insta-buzz for Lupe, even more so than his sneaker deal or the snore-worthy "Kick, Push" video. How could this be a bad thing?
All Atlantic has to do to make kids buy the album is include a DVD with some of his videos, an interview, and footage of him skateboarding and buying something from a local Chicago food and liquor. That ain't so hard to do, and it's not original either. For years Interscope has been including throwaway DVD's with their important releases to secure top first week spots on the charts, word to Eminem and 50 Cent.
The folks at Atlantic need to get their Elliott-on and swagger jack that strategy from Interscope, instead of kick, pushing Lupe's album date back. If the album is good, it will sell. What do ya'll think?
I dont give a flying fizzatt if the album has leaked over the wire. Atlantic needs to get their shizzatt together and package that up on the really quick. I would have Lupe record 4 extra tracks plastic and bar code it up, wrap it with that DVD, money in the bank.
I hate to use that east coast slang but "Yo God Lupe is fire hot son." He is what this rap game has been needing for a while now. Im definately going to purchase that product if they deside to put it out.
Im out dude.
Yo I can't even front if I know that the album has leaked I'm gonna try to D/l it, but I will cop the album w/o a doubt because all of dude's guest joints and mixtapes(Farenheit 1/15) are killing it and Atlntic has been dicking around just constantly pushing the album release back. And you are right about the lil bonus DVD, it does help sway more people to buy the alubum if there is a little something extra included. But regardless, when Food & Liqour hit stores, whenever, fools need gwan and cop that.
Yo Hashim,
that "Kick,Push" is hot. He kicked some slick metaphors alluding to the skateboarding sub-culture and it is actually a postive video. I'm trying to understand your rationale for not appreciating the video. It's supposed to be meloncholy and ironic because he's not slingin', mackin' hoes or bustin' caps but simply looking for a cool place to "Kick, Push" yet he's still being bothered by Jake. As far as the leak, well if he's as good as his hype it shouldn't matter. Hell, he should have a built in platinum audience from the skateboarders alone.
all i got to say is Lupe gonna still sell regardless of leaks or not he get mad love and reel hiphop is back sukkkkkas!
stop hating and cop the record when it hit the stores!
p.s support your black people peoples
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"I'm trying to understand your rationale for not appreciating the video."
It's boring and obvious. Or maybe I have my standards up too high. I was expecting something like a Kanye video where it feels more like a mini movie than a video.
I think because of Kanye's success he could afford to make mini-movies. I think the video itself is a metaphor for the boarding culture: cheap and acessable. The grittiness speaks of the street without the violence. I also think that, even though they are both from the Chi, they are two differnt artists style-wise. Do you like that "I Don't Like The Look Of This" video?
Lupe is straight four-alarm fire. That video is dope. I enjoy that he can make a video and not rep Bentleys, medallions, and other hip hop accessories.
The entire Kick, Push song is a metaphor for people finding their way and not allowing anyone to stop them making it. Man, I Kick, Push e'eryday!
I'm still gonna support Lupe. He is a breath of fresh air for hip hop. The dude is going to bring back "Rhythm and Poetry".
Shit, nigga said he's got producton from Mike Shinoda on it.
I will NOT be copin that.
InstaHate!
It's bad enough I've got to listen to Shinoda's shit on NBA Live.
I won't download it.
But I will radioblog it just to see what's up.
Isn't Shinoda with Linkin Park? If Jay worked with them, it can't be all that bad. I'mma still give it a chance.
Willyj, I guess you were not feeling that Collision Course with Hov and Linkin Park, huh? LOL...
While the New New York is trying to find there way back to the dominance that the South is enjoying right now, Chicago is the next city to blow.
Not just saying that cause I'm from Chicago but it's destened to blow. Geographically every region of the US has had there shine, and Chicago is on deck.
The problem that kept us off the radar is actually going to be the same thing that puts us on. Chicago is right in the middle of everything. Therefore it's all different types of MC's here. Go to hip hop show and one group will have sick metaphors, the next group might bounce all over the stage with a Twista type flow. Next nigga gone be a pimp with a real country flow, and the next cat might come out Crip walkin'. But it's more real MC's than anything here and labels about to take notice.
I wouldnt download that garbage
They always talking bout real M.C.'s
but sign the wackest one
all them mix tapes was trash
PRops for snicking his wack ass threw the system
but that DUDE garbage
Ny niggas always respected the Chi...From Long time..I remeber talking about Lupe a couple of months ago and niggas on this Site didnt even know what the fuck i was talking about...Its all good i see some Cats are seeing the Light..LUPE is gonna Blow even with the leak. Real Hip hop peoples are gonna Cop, Cause they know real Rap when they hear it...His music like like old " Tribe mixed with john forte..dudes NASTY !! Fuck all this Battle shit, This nigga know;'s how to make a Record.
BKLYN ALL DAY !! 40thGANG ! HOLLA !
I think the "Kick/Push" video has a certain charm about it. I think it's supposed to have that low budget "this is a video" kinda look verses "mini-movie". Also...I saw a story in the video ..I think it was a good concept video. I mean the song is so slow and laid back the video has to match the song. And speaking of Kanye videos he did start off with "Through The Wire" before he stepped it up to big productions. I think this whole leak thing is just ridiculous. Mark my words the album WILL come out and I'm usually right about my predictions. It will either come in May or it will come in June. Once the video is released and the promo machine kicks into gear (MTV/BET) does it ever just stop because of a leak? The album most likely always comes out. But like the one poster said, people who want it will still buy it when it comes out and ya know......I think it will come out that's just my 2 cents. But yeah everything seems to be leaked so if this album is scrapped unless you have big bodyguards guarding the music 24/7 there is a chance it can happen again. I think it will come out, it's anticipated and I think it will be a success. Lupe offers something different to the game.
Dorrie
The whole reason the video is good is because it doesn't try so hard to be some off the wall mini movie type of shit. Plus, the whole skateboarding theme just expanded his audience like crazy... not only does he have Kanye's fan base, but now he got the whole skateboarding community interested in his sound.
The production on the album will be hot. Mike Shinoda knows how to make a good song. Sorry Willy J that he's a white boy in a rock group and that you can't help but to hate on him... but if Hova things dude is hot then you have to respect him.
I'm just hoping that that the album has a Chi town collab w/ common and kanye.
I support the "Kick,Push" video because it doesn't have anyone sittin' on a rented Bentley,or some pole swingin' chick(don't get me wrong,i appreciate chicks who dance)but i don't need to see it in every video.Is it the greatest video ever?,No-but it is a breath of fresh air after a day of watchin' the same sh**
Yo dis kid is cool. He got a real smooth nostalgic flow. If he can relate 2 otha things beside skateboardin den atlantic can have sumthing real heavy on their hands. Cuz he got a flow like nas wen he 1st came out. I'm not comparin him lyrically 2 nas but just flow wise. If he can drop knowledge like nas, den shit will be real serious. Cuz it is refreshin not 2 hear SHAKE YO ASS KILL A NIGGA AND BENTLEYS ON 26'S. Even tho I'm a big d-block fan and all dey talk about is drugs and guns but yall kno wat I mean.
Uhhhh... I jus wanna ask wat was da point of dat
r u talkin about england
yo england dont worry fam we know thats not you.england i have a theory.i think it might be mr. irreverent.serious.come on now we all have had our stans,but yours,yours is personal.just look at that book he wrote.whoever it is there touched.i mean how can you be on another mans shit online.pathetic.fuck him england the nigga got a hard on for you.
Not really feeling all this backpack shit man, kick push ??? Come on man, I'm from the hoods of the dirty south. And we ain't on that Laffy Taffy snap shit either haters. Lupe needs to hit the stands on 6/6/06 !!! Put some real money behind him, and see what's up !!! As far as that leak shit, man you know atlantic is behind that hype. Ain't nobody looking out for that shit like that....hahaha !!!! Surprisingly, for this being the south....alot of people are feeling that Mobb Deep shit, T.I., and Rick Ross. Fat Joe is already jumping on Rick's nutsack for some cameos and features.......hahaha !!! ALL OR NOTHING !!! Niggas kill me with this bring new york back shit !!!
yo i'm tellig ya'll st8 up and down Lupe Lyrically is going to hold the torch for many years. This dudes sounds like what if Jay-z, Nas, and Talib Kweli had a baby. I heard the album and trust me , yo this dude is next son. I'm from Queens and truthfully aint no new New York cat spitting harder than dun. Well maybe Grafh but Grafh aint dropping an album that's co-signed by HOV. His production is tight but his flow is impeccable and he is very witty on the low ,real sly like Hov on Reasonable Doubt.
If you haven't the chance to hear this yet, I feel for you. Nuff props to LUPE for putting together a true Hip hop classic.
Yo young guice wanna turn dis into sum field mob shit. 1st off fuck dem coward ass niggas. 2nd I hope dat shit starts a ny vs. Dirty south beef cuz den well see who da tru lyricists are cuz nuthin makes rappers tighten dey game up dan beef.
But come on.....FIELD MOB dissin us?!?!
Den dey make fun of how we talk while sum dumass gold tooth dredlock mofucka was in da background speakin gibberish.
Niggas jus need 2 pay attention 4 real.
I'm feelin the song. It's got a nostalgic feel to it. From the beat to the lyrics to the video its nice. I know dudes gotta make money, but I can appreciate any rapper that ain't in it just for the money. I'm feelin a rapper that is original and artistic with their style. HipHop shouldn't be all about the money, but some would disagree........it's cool though, just my oppinion.
I from the East Coast(CT to be exact). I have love for the south. I lived in Texas for 5 years, and I plan on raising my kids there. I've been all over the east coast and all over the south, from NY,VA,PA,SC,FLA,MD, to TX. I got nothing but love for every place I have ever visited. I don't want no beef between any coasts or artists. America is fuckin bubble man, like a damn fish bowl. Think outside the box or get out the damn thing, and get a different perspective. I can gurantee this though, white people are laughing they ass off all the way to the bank on our account.
No matter how high we rise as a cultured people, as hispanic or black, white people will always look down on us and never change their opinion so it gets to the point were its like..should we even care, or even more as, should we even try?
Dats just how things will be until we become the ultimate or all white people die. But at the same time I could say sumthin like dat but still worry about something like a reputation. Every1 is feeble minded in 1 way or another.
And if dere is a beef we will see who is the best wen it comes 2 rap (which we already know who is) but with that in mind or any other situation 4 dat matter there is always a bigger picture.
Sounds like your laying down dude, don't be so quick to give up. If everyone stays in that frame of mind your talking about then what your saying is bound to happen. Black people ain't going nowhere, and neither are white people, so somethings gotta give.
Not really feeling all this backpack shit man, kick push ??? Come on man, I'm from the hoods of the dirty south. And we ain't on that Laffy Taffy snap shit either haters.
Young Guice at April 18, 2006 12:15 AM
Yo young guice wanna turn dis into sum field mob shit. 1st off fuck dem coward ass niggas. 2nd I hope dat shit starts a ny vs. Dirty south beef cuz den well see who da tru lyricists are cuz nuthin makes rappers tighten dey game up dan beef.
Posted by: Real4Dolo at April 18, 2006 08:59 AM
i hate people that think music thats about killing or drug dealing or the hood or freakin some hoes makes for good music. STOP BEING NARROW MINDED. i am really starting to dislike my black people. second if i hear one more time about a state beefing with another state i might throw up in my mouth. YOU DONT OWN A STATE!!! STOP ACTING LIKE A CHILD. niggas need to man up and stop living within the steriotype.
anyway this lupe dude is a refreshing new artist. i dont get down with the skating boarding stuff but its cool.do your thing lupe
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HEY Mo is right.
We got dudes in foreign countries fighting and shit for NOTHING! NOW you want to have beef in your own country because someone told you that NY music isn’t as good as you think it is… BITCHES!
I think we need to rethink our present situation. Send all these niggas that beefin with whole states over to Iraq and shit and see how hood they are when a bullet is flyin at they ass. Cause nigga if you can beef with a state you got to be a G. You want an NY vs. Dirty south war. FUCK THAT! Get your ass overseas and fight them niggas.
You guys don’t think.
Music is music.
Everyone likes different stuff. You are intitled to your opionion. You can’t hate on that. If you do you’re narrow minded. GET REAL AND GET GROWN.
Da_Watcher:
Hell naw duke!!!!
I was not feeling that 'mash-up' shit at all.
I can't stand fuckin Linkin Park!!!
Anything they touch is DEAD to me.
Ok lemme rephrase myself wen it comes 2 da beef. I meant dat it should lead 2 a hip hop beef which is neva da same as real beef. If I say fuck u on a record, dats as far as it'll go becuz dats all it really is. It's just about how we are skilled lyrically.
And I don't wanna sound like I'm givin up but da truth is dat white people will never look at us as equals no matter how rich, smart or strong we get. Unless we come with a total package, nuthin will change. And no 1 knows wat dat total package is if not dey would have used it already.
I always keep the black man down but i really dont have to do to much no more cause yall do it for me.
you dont go to school.
you watch bet all day
you disrespect your women
you try and make a quick buck instead of working for it
you think that talking proper english is being white but its your first language
you dont teach your children about your past
you dont protect your self then get mad when you catch a disease or a baby
and you dont love yourselves
you guys are to easy.
I think the cat iz hot sauce on jalapeno chipz, but will the ghetto feel skatebording? Most catz in the hood neva picked up a board, but I usually cop everything that comez out. I'm not a fan of artist 1st cd'z, but Lupe got wordz
I'm a stupid racist white and I love sucking huge black dick. Dats y I don't like blacks cuz they have big ones.
I'M GAY!!!!!! ;p
YO! IM FROM DA CHI. NIGGAZ OUT HERE AINT REALLY FEELIN NO SKATEBORD SHIT. BUT ITS A FEW NIGGAZ IN SECTIONS OF DA CITY THATS ON THAT SHIT. LIKE "HYDE PARK NIGGAZ" AND SUM LAMES ON DA NORTH SIDE. BUT HIS SHIT WILL SEEL TO THESE WHITE PEOPLE. FUCK A LEAK ONLINE! DONT FORGET 72% OF HIP HOP SALES R WHITE PEOPLE.
This is how smart labels have become. Its almost like their so smart they're stupid. Pushing an album back is never a positive thing in the consumer's eyes. So what...they push the album back, it gets leacked again, are they gonna push the album back another time. Atlantic where is ya head
Yo Khadafi,
I'm from the Chi too. Born and raised on the west side. And you right hood niggaz ain't feelin that skateboard shit, but dude got lyrics and ain't nobody gone be able to deny that.
What's fucked up is that it's a lot of hot shit in the Chi but our pussy ass radio stations WGCI and POWER 92 are to scared to break a fuckin record. Here we are the 3rd largest market in the world and we wait for New York or ATL to tell us what's hot. Then niggas run with it. If that cut "On My Momma" was done by NY cats or Down South cats they would be rich as hell by now.
Skateboard or Uzi, support your own dog, it's our time.
lupe hot....the dude is polished and will be around for some time.....
real4dolo writes:
Ok lemme rephrase myself wen it comes 2 da beef. I meant dat it should lead 2 a hip hop beef which is neva da same as real beef. If I say fuck u on a record, dats as far as it'll go becuz dats all it really is. It's just about how we are skilled lyrically.
And I don't wanna sound like I'm givin up but da truth is dat white people will never look at us as equals no matter how rich, smart or strong we get. Unless we come with a total package, nuthin will change. And no 1 knows wat dat total package is if not dey would have used it already.
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Who cares what white folks think of us. You let other peoples beliefs about you affect your actions?? Sounds like white people got you by the balls yo. If not, you need to change your way of thinking bro. From what you are expressing through your words it sounds like you are trying to live up to there expectations. Live your life baby, and keep it movin.
To Real4Dolo:
I'ma have to co-sign The_Dude
Str8 up, I can give a fuck how White People look at us/me. Their preconceived notions about us are deeply embeded into them to the point where they are just about born with them.
Hell, some uppity ass black folks with money don't look at regular black folks as equals. The funny thing is no matter how much money they got they still a Nigger in the eye of they rich white neighbor who will still smile and speak everyday. I'm from Chicago and we have a large African population, and them niggas don't even like us. I dated a Ethiopian chick and a chick from Botswana but they wouldn't dare take me around they families.
So go outside put a rubber on ya dick and stick it in the dirt and say "FUCK THE WORLD". KRS said years ago the Black American is homeless. Whites hate us, and blacks from Africa hate us. Fuck'em all against the wall. It's Just-Us
We put limitations on everything. Why can't black people skateboard, ski, play tennis, golf, or anything else white people are known for doing?? If we limit ourselves to things that only go on in the ghetto's of America then we won't ever be free of our ghetto mentality. Just like Nas said "Scared to do something for ourselves, unless we someone doing it first". The dude Lupe makes a song about skateboarding and people say it's wack, and if you ask me its a good song. I bet if he was talking about selling drugs, killing, or some other negative thing that goes on in the hood over that beat then a lot more folks would be "embracing" him. The critism against him isn't surprising to me though.......
We put limitations on everything. Why can't black people skateboard, ski, play tennis, golf, or anything else white people are known for doing?? If we limit ourselves to things that only go on in the ghetto's of America then we won't ever be free of our ghetto mentality. Just like Nas said "Scared to do something for ourselves, unless we someone doing it first". The dude Lupe makes a song about skateboarding and people say it's wack, and if you ask me its a good song. I bet if he was talking about selling drugs, killing, or some other negative thing that goes on in the hood over that beat then a lot more folks would be "embracing" him. The critism against him isn't surprising to me though.......
Their "preconcieved notion" is deeply embedded in us rather. We allow them to have power over us. When in reality you are the soul controller.
Yo Thrillz or anyone else:
Did ya'll watch the 'State of the Black Union' earlier this year??
Farrakhan said the same thing about 'white america'/government will never allow blacks to fully realize the 'american dream' etc. etc. So we shouldn't even bother trying to 'play their game'.
All the while, the crowd was lovin everything Farrakhan was saying.
And after Farrakhan left, Tavis Smiley got a lil pissed at him for sayin it when the whole theme of the panel was getting involved in the political system.
Classic shit. Black folks (as a whole) will NEVER agree on anything.
all i gotta say, is listen to his 3 mixtapes....
say anything negative bout this cat.. i dare you
alotta yall dont remember how garbage kanye was when he first started puttin out tapes.. even tho his beats was dope..
Another quote from Nas: "Fuck Black Leaders, Whites ain't got noone leading them"(Black Zombie).
Black Folks always looking to ride someones coat tails. Why does it have to be so hard for us to know right from wrong for ourselves. Farrakhan, Reggie, and Sharpton don't speak for or represent me. I am not trying to trivialize the good things they have done for our people, I am just saying that you can think for yourself, and ultimatly you are the one that has to live your life. As far as Farrakhan's speach, what was the solution to the problem he was stating?? There isn't going to be any revolution, We arent going back to Africa,,so then what. You are left thinking you are fucked no matter what you do, and that isn't the case. Free your mind and the rest will follow...
I didn't ask all that homie.
Just asked if you saw the shit, to make a point.
Climb down off that soapbox for a just a second and realize that not everyone needs a lesson if self-help.
Jesus.
LOL........Yea I saw it. I replied to it.
No soap box over here.I guess what I had to say just wasn't for your ears, more power to you.
HOW DID THIS TURN INTO A EAST VS SOUTH BATTLE ??? LUPE IS NICE, COP THE ALBUM WHEN IT DROPS. CAUSE U KNOW THEY GONNA DROP IT...HE JUST MAKES GOOD MUSIC.