Eminem and Obie Trice In Complex Magazine

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Complex Magazine has a great cover story this month on Eminem and Obie Trice. Rereading the interview after Proof's death makes it eerie because they dive into what happened with Obie's own shooting and Em's frantic reaction to it.

Also, the Eminem portion of the interview gives me the feeling that he's done for good, whether he knows it or not. For instance, he already talks about being "half retired" and he's still concerned about the safety of his family and entourage, as he showed in the "Like Toy Soldiers" video. With Proof now gone, I can imagine Marshall will step out of the limelight for good.

Also, according to his own admission, he's gained a bunch of weight, a sure sign that a pop star is about to take a break.

I wish the best for Em. He's one of my top 5, dead or alive, no matter what MTV says. And props to Complex for landing that tragically timely interview.

Posted by SOHH Hashim at April 13, 2006 11:20 AM

Comments

Em looks like he needs to go to rehab

Posted by: ONE at April 13, 2006 11:43 AM

ITZ so sad dat rap music always take blame for gun violence while manufactures of GUNS take none of that blame. errthing bad is related to the black man. whiles its all good when it comes to white ppl.
How i wish the world is FAIR!!!!

Posted by: aha at April 13, 2006 11:50 AM

Eminem also goes in my top 5 dead or alive. What happen to Proof is jus crazy. Out der in the Mile people have mad beef. Proof and D12 all those dudes know many men want dem dead out der I dont know why they go. I know you cant be a punk or puzzy but your life is your life. You make money to move out the hood not stay der. Look at Jay-Z and 50. You can do concerts and shit and visit some fams but damn clubbin' out in the open. Nucchaz are hungry and they got money to feed them you heard. Damn down to Bruce Lee was tested on the streets to see if he can really kick a dudes ass in 60 seconds or less. Streets is watching so know your surroundings. Obie needs to go to LA and relax.

Posted by: Mr. Roc-A-Fella a.k.a. Roc-Star at April 13, 2006 11:50 AM

Eminem looks like a f---in' doll. he looks BAD. The photo looks cheap, too.

My n---- Obie Trice's album looks like it's gonna be straight heat.

Posted by: Helen at April 13, 2006 11:51 AM

EMINEM HAS KILLED THE COMPETITION, HE IS THE BEST LYRCIST, ONE OF THE FEW WHO CAN FILL UP STADIUMS AND ARENAS AND HAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST FAN BASES. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT THAT HE IS # 1.

THE NEW OBIE ALBUM IS INSANE YALL WAIT TILL IT COMES OUT. R.I.P PROOF
GOD BLESS.

SHADYVILLE

Posted by: SKRAP at April 13, 2006 12:07 PM

Dat new BG is fuckin garbage.MOVE AROUND is the only good cut.HE needs to stick with the HERO.

Posted by: hustle hard at April 13, 2006 12:08 PM

PUT THE GUNZ DOWN AND FIGHT LIKE A MAN BLACK FOLK

Posted by: hustle hard at April 13, 2006 12:11 PM

Folks are gonna be mad when they find out the Proof may have started the situation and fired the first shot, not knowin that duke's cousin was a bouncer at the club and was packin his own heat.

Posted by: willyjsimmons at April 13, 2006 12:31 PM

i knew em was gonna lay off for good now cause proof but damn proof was actin a fool at the club when the whole murder thing happen all this time i was thinkin proof was just bein hatin on so and then he got shot but on allhiphop rumurs today there reporting that proof was actin all big headed and he started the whole gun fight thing the victem proof show is now on life support a r.i.p proof even though he propably was in the wrong too

Posted by: real thoughts 4 real talk at April 13, 2006 12:43 PM

WHEN CATS GONNA LEARN THAT WHEN U GET PAID U LEAVE THE HOOD BEHIND

FUCK THE HOOD BABY!! NIGGAS THERE ARE ONLY GONNA HATE SUPER HARD ON YOU UNLESS U BUYING THE TREES AND THE BUBBLY!

SO DONT GO BACK UNLESS U TREATING NIGGAS TO SOMETHING AND BY THE WAY DONT SIT WIT UR BACK TO ANYBODY-2 TO THE DOME MIGHT COME FROM YOUR FORMER BEST FRIEND WHO U LEFT BEHIND.

STAY OUT OF THE CLUB AT ALL COST!!
THATS WHERE THE SHIT ALWAYS HAPPENS MY NIGGAS

AT THE CLUB ON EARLY SUNDAY MORNING WHEN SHIT IS ABOUT TO CLOSE.-HOW MANY NIGGAS GOT KILLED IN THE CLUB. 90% OF THE SHIT HAPPENS AT THE CLUB OR SOME SPORTING OR INDUSTRY EVENT!! JUST ASK PAC-BIG-FREAKY TY-C MURDA-PROOF-STICKY FINGAS-BUSTAS SECURITY GUARD-ETC.ETC.ETC.

--IT'S THE CLUB MY NIGGAS-ITS A DEATH TRAP

JUST GO TO THE HOOD TO GET THE TREES, BITCHES AND THE LATEST 411.

HOLLA

Posted by: HaterAid 007 at April 13, 2006 12:51 PM

YO I ALMOST FORGOT TO TELL YALL

IF THERE ARE FLY LOOKING HOES AND BALLERS AT THE CLUB THAT NIGHT THEN THERE IS A 99% CHANCE THERE WILL BE BEEF THAT NIGHT. IF NIGGAS IS DRINKING IN THE CLUB THEN ITS 100% CHANCE.

NIGGAS HATING CUZ UR BITCH LOOK FLY OR YOU DRESSED BETTER THEN THEM
NIGGAS BE ON IT LIKE THAT MY NIGGAS

HOLLA

Posted by: HaterAid 007 at April 13, 2006 12:57 PM

DETROIT WTF MY NIGGAS DAM ANOTHER NIGGA GOT KILLED AT THE ALBUM RELEASE PARTY.

DETROIT IS THE NEW MURDA CAPITAL FOR HIP-HOP IN THE 06.

SEND FARRAKHAN TO DETROIT-NIGGAS IS BUCKWILDING!!

ANN ARBOR WHAT UP!

Posted by: HaterAid 007 at April 13, 2006 1:03 PM

I think tha opposite will happen I think
em will come back with a new album & be
all over Detox & now that proofs gone
there needs to be a new D-12 set but
who knows I honestly feel that shady
& mainly em needs to do a mixtape like
a huge 3cd set & if they don't stop
fuckin over stat quo im a hurt someone!

As for ems drug problems shit I like
drugs I like pills I like lean aint
nothin wrong with gettin loaded but
when you become addicted thats another
thang vicodin makes ya kidney hurt it
aint no fun at all!!!

Posted by: 3rd Coast at April 13, 2006 1:17 PM

EM NEEDS TO CHANGE HIS FAT INTO MUSCLES.
AND HIS MONEY INTO SECURITY.
AND HIS SKILLS ON THE MIC INTO A
ONCE AGAIN MONEY MACHINE.

Posted by: emminem at April 13, 2006 1:33 PM

eminem is in the top three that ever lived in my eyes, 1.2pac 2.biggie 3.eminem.i think eminem will be very sad dat proof iz gone but he's gone to a better place now he iz there with pac, biggie, big L, B PUN and so on..... i think proof was a funny man and a great rapper he was gettin der and someone took it away from him. lets hope dat gun violence stops some day LETS HOPE. (R.I.P PROOF)I WILL MISS U

Posted by: DAY DAY at April 13, 2006 1:51 PM

I have that months Mag already, and the interview was wack...Now i dont HATE em but i think he's way overrated. He's not top 10 dead or alive and only made ONE classic album. Black folk dont relate to all his crazy white boy kill and rape his moms shit. Yes he has flow but talks about NOTHING !! He's looks like the Male Lil KIM. NIgga face is all fucked up. OBie is nice, I'll give him that but Em needs to step his Game up cause it streets are not feeling him. And when your Street Cred is gone, your finish. All respect is Gone.

Posted by: mIZE2 at April 13, 2006 1:54 PM

I have that months Mag already, and the interview was wack...Now i dont HATE em but i think he's way overrated. He's not top 10 dead or alive and only made ONE classic album. Black folk dont relate to all his crazy white boy kill and rape his moms shit. Yes he has flow but talks about NOTHING !! He's looks like the Male Lil KIM. NIgga face is all fucked up. OBie is nice, I'll give him that but Em needs to step his Game up cause it streets are not feeling him. And when your Street Cred is gone, your finish. All respect is Gone.

Posted by: mIZE2 at April 13, 2006 01:54 PM

NIGGA YOU IZ RETARDED SHUT THE FUCK UP EM MAY BE WHITE BUT THAT MUTHA FUCKER CAN SPIT FIRE

Posted by: wtf at April 13, 2006 2:20 PM

fuck you guys give me my 15 minutes back rap shit is not hiphop hip hop was creared for bringing peace thro music buck..buck kill em all em said words r mother fucker you beefin you got no security thats clownin shit u goin six foot under like big proof and if you aint saved you meet the devil that day thats all to life

Posted by: b boyy at April 13, 2006 2:37 PM

I heard that bloodmoney is the shit
it comes out may 2nd yall need to cop that shit i know i will

Posted by: shakeem at April 13, 2006 2:46 PM

the club was open after it should have been closed. that fuckin club! if they did what they supposed to, shit may have been different.niggas might have went their seperate ways that night.plus that wasn't the first time someone's been killed there. close that bitch down.

Posted by: bigced at April 13, 2006 3:01 PM

There's no reason for EM to continue on in the game as an MC. He's proven himself to be one of the best lyricists that ever touched a mic.

Like I said before, if you listen to each and every one of eminem's words in his bars, what the dude does is fucking brilliant.

He's sold a ridiculous amount of records and now it's time to fall back.

Posted by: caff at April 13, 2006 3:22 PM

Maybe now you stupid fucks will stop saying he is the best rapper ever!@!

Eminem is NOT the best to do it.

Posted by: essex at April 13, 2006 3:42 PM

Stop being little bitches who fight about if Eminem is the best MC or not and just read the damn article. Nobody will ever agree with you on him being the best or not.

Posted by: Shut up. at April 13, 2006 4:31 PM

Em might not be the best but he is damn near it and should be in all conversations when talking about the best. Obie's first album was real hot and I hope to say the same about the second. Maybe Proof getting killed will light a fire under Em's ass and make him hungry again. I can only hope.

Posted by: Brother P at April 13, 2006 4:38 PM

eminem is not the best, he was good, now he sucks. He's white trailer trash right now!!!

Posted by: oto23 at April 13, 2006 4:40 PM

PASTOR MURDA MASE - PRAY FOR THEEZ NIGGAZ . . .

Posted by: M.FREEMZ.ILLA at April 13, 2006 7:28 PM

I AM A HOMOSEXUAL DON, I AM THE LEADER OF THE PINK MAFIA.

Posted by: Meccadon at April 13, 2006 7:43 PM

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Posted by: kevin at April 13, 2006 8:38 PM

I don't think Em is top 5 dead or alive. I think the top 5 is Biggie and Pac, Rakim, Jay-Z and Nas, and then everybody else...anyone agree?? Em is famous because he's a white rapper who can actually make some decent songs. If he wasn't white, he wouldn't be where he's at. Yeah, he's lyrical, but he doesn't really have any appeal except to them hoodrat and white trash girls that like a white boy who kick it with a Black squad. He ain't Top 5 dead or alive. And plus, you're only as good as your last album. And his last album was garbage. Just cause he made one or two good albums doesn't mean he's dope. Having a whole set of dope albums like Nas, Biggie, Jay and Pac means that your dope.

Em AINT IN THE TOP FIVE SO QUIT PLAYIN!

Posted by: A-J at April 13, 2006 8:47 PM

I AM A HOMOSEXUAL DON, I AM THE LEADER OF THE PINK MAFIA.

Posted by: Meccadon at April 13, 2006 07:43 PM

LOL----LOL---

Posted by: Pink MAFIA at April 13, 2006 9:20 PM

too all the ignorant fools who think Em isn't a great rapper have to ingnore what his PEERS say. they say he's str8 heat, a lyrical fucking master... they say this not cuz he's white, because they respect the kraft.... get a clue you ignorant haters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!get a clue you ignorant haters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!get a clue you ignorant haters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!get a clue you ignorant haters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: staytrue at April 13, 2006 9:22 PM

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GET MONEY GET BUSY
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PINK MAFIA (10X)
SAY IT WIT ME YALL

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Posted by: Pink MAFIA up in this beyatch at April 13, 2006 9:22 PM

A-J, your obviously uneducated. why do you post, do you like to flaunt your ingnorance??!! i'm guessing that's a big yes. Em is well respect by his peers, people who actually practice the kraft. Em is one of the best lyrical artist's ever, just ask one of your top 5 artist's and they will let you know.

Posted by: staytrue@yahoo.com at April 13, 2006 9:26 PM

Yo u niggaz gotta get it right em is one of da best rappers eva. hes up dere wit my nigga eazy-e, 2pac, big. em gotta watch his back tho. obie got shot in da head when he was rappin wit em bugz died and now proof. just hope dun go six feet deep

Posted by: hustla on da reals reppin oakland at April 13, 2006 10:00 PM

i really hate hypocrite all you same asshole talkin about fuck the hood and sayin when you get rich you should leave.
i swear 50 cent told all the clown this same shit and yall diss him for that.you same clown diss the man about he cant go back to his hood or wont.
if 50 wanted to go back he can, but why should he with confrontations waitin to happen.
sohh.com is filled with hypocrits. i live in the hood but the minute i get some paper "fuck the hood" yall can keep the hood for yourselves just like some of these rappers talkin that am in the hood bullshit.they must be broke to still be in the hood.

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Posted by: shakeem at April 13, 2006 11:37 PM

HaterAid 007 -

THIS CAT KNOW WHAT UP ,

Posted by: JERZEY at April 14, 2006 2:09 AM

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Posted by: shakeem at April 13, 2006 11:37 PM

LMAO

Posted by: hahahahaha at April 14, 2006 2:33 AM

Eazy E was a GREAT TOO ????? Did i miss somthing ????? i think i did....I never SAid EM WAS waCK..but he's FAR from the best ever or TOP 10..If your under the age of 22 Your not gonna really understand what im saying..cause you Prob started listening to RAP in 99...Out of the Thousands of rappers to ever RAp EM is not TOP 10....You think em is seeing KRS, Rakim, KAne, G.rap or Slick Rick in there Prime...and thats 5 niggas right there..come on man...Do the Math my DUDES !!

Peace,
That nigga MIZE

Posted by: mIZE2 at April 14, 2006 4:15 AM

Damn shakeem u a lame. I heard blood money and by the way it sucks ass. That shit aint goin platinum. It'll do a yayo if anything or keep getting pushed back forever. Also em aint in the fuckin top five. Maybe ten, but not five. To me he number ten.

Posted by: bob at April 14, 2006 4:54 AM

look toomany ignorant mothafuckas are on this site
for those who say em is not top 5: get a clue he isif not the best (one of the best lyricists ever)

also for the people that say Jay-z is a good rapper, u mustbe smoking something, cuz jay has almost no lyrical skill

my top 5 lyricists (not in any particular order)

tupac
eminem
papoose
R-mean
immortal technique

(there are many more, that are great rappers like: Nas, Swift, Killa Khan, Rakim, Talib Kwelib, Mos Def, and others)

shiiiiiiit,if u dont know what u are talking about then dont talk


Posted by: L.P. at April 14, 2006 8:03 AM

why don't u all shut the fuk up trana tlk all gangsta 4 a sec, anuda rapper jus died and u all chatin shit wheathr em's the bes' or not he's made it he's got the 100'mill's in his bank so talk that into count b4 sayin he's pas' it, he shud jus giv up aint jus like that read the article. x

Posted by: Ben'jermaine at April 14, 2006 8:27 AM

eminem ded or alive top 5 easily m8's trust me selling over 65 mill haha'z avin me on int ya if he aint' pac biggie 2 overated cos they ded consida tht ignorant fuk's.

1.eminem
2.pac
3.biggie
4.game
5.jay z

dont chat on bout faggots who been rapping 4 a year or wit 1 big hit, mos def dun ohh no tht made it mega, pappoose doin hummin like a slave, need 2 tink overall wot these have sold, the technique in ther voices it outstanding. x

Posted by: no_show at April 14, 2006 8:32 AM

my top 5 hands dwn is:

1.eminem
2.pac
3.nate dogg
4.game
5.nwa

whether u a fan of these or not truthfully i tink tht the top 5 maybe addin' biggie in dre maybe or jay but tht mine chers xx

Posted by: Ben'jermaine at April 14, 2006 8:34 AM

proof shot in self defense. people are now saying bender pulled out a gun, proof pulled his, shot first, then got shot from behind. then they got up the guy who proof shot's gun and ran.

Posted by: lqdswrds at April 14, 2006 9:28 AM

Dude, Eminem went to a trainer to lose weight a while ago. Proof's death is quite possibly a sign that eminem will keep making music in honor of Proof. and he has new material with the whole Divorce thing.

Posted by: Moco at April 14, 2006 9:34 AM

ye i agree totally, eminem wil carry on wit music trust me becoz of his divorce, divorce settlement for £30mill, WOW, and his best friend, member of his d12 and best man has jus died i hope to see a rebirth of eminem's marshall mathers lp, bak 2 how he was and also d12 were working on their album "the ambition" tink tht will hav a big influence on em's career and what he carry rely produce x.

Posted by: no_show at April 14, 2006 9:55 AM

ye i agree totally, eminem wil carry on wit music trust me becoz of his divorce, divorce settlement for £30mill, WOW, and his best friend, member of his d12 and best man has jus died i hope to see a rebirth of eminem's marshall mathers lp, bak 2 how he was and also d12 were working on their album "the ambition" tink tht will hav a big influence on em's career and what he carry rely produce x.

Posted by: no_show at April 14, 2006 9:55 AM

It's all fun and fuckin games till somebody get's hurt. Here we are saying it's a shame about Proof. And while it is sad Proof has a history of being an asshole to people. It has been reported that dude got into 3 incidnets all in the same club that night.

We say how when your a celeb you gotta get out of the hood and stay out the hood but you are the same muthafuckas that'll say a rapper is a punk if he can't go back to his hood. Or if he got security with him. We crack jokes on niggas with security. Rappers use it in there diss records when another rapper has security. And again it's all fun and games until somebody get's hurt.

Posted by: August The 15teenth at April 14, 2006 10:36 AM

I gotta keep it real cuz you niggaz is buggin'. Em is definitely in the top 5 as far being lyrical would go. The truth is niggaz prop up Pac cause he stood for something, but dude wasn't that lyrical. Out of any MC's on anybody's top 10 list, Pac would not be able to fuck with anyone of them in a battle. I mean really if it was one crowd, one stage and two mics, Pac had one mic and let's say Ras Kas had the other mic. Who would win? Ras of course but no one has him on there top 10. Em (I hate to say) would crush everybody on top 10 lists in a battle and at the same time can write good songs. That's rare. Very rare!

Posted by: Charles Dickens at April 14, 2006 10:59 AM

Like I said, Eminem looks gay in that photo. He looks too pretty.

But still, he is my favorite MC, period. Ain't no one else in hip hop like him. Eminem stands out...I like people who stand apart from the rest. He didn't rap about ignorant dumb s--- like bling, cars, big houses, big booty (until recently). Eminem is my n---- for life, no doubt. The MARSHALL MATHERS LP is insane...I'm still pumpin' it after six years. Plus, Eminem is so fine.

As for Obie, that n----'s nice too. I copped CHEERS...I wanna hear more from this dude. His lyrics are excellent. Obie look sexy too. It is too bad that he is getting overshadowed by them G Unit hoes. They need to die.

Stat Quo? Where is he? Don't think I forgot about him.

Posted by: Helen at April 14, 2006 11:06 AM

I don't care what nobody says even though Encore was mediocre at best. Eminem is still one of the greatest to ever do it. I think he's going to take a break which he already said he would. This just gives him more fuel to write off of. If he goes back to the pre-encore shit he'll be good.

Posted by: Whateva at April 14, 2006 11:27 AM

From the intro of Ghosts' song "Putcha gunz donw....put 'em down!" We in the fieldz wit heat, u lil niggahs eat kidz meals to me..we street referees...

Posted by: TakDat at April 14, 2006 11:40 AM

Doesn't eminem look like fergie from the black eyed peas in that picture? They fem'd him up for that cover!!!

Posted by: k9s at April 14, 2006 1:39 PM

Eminem looks like fergie wearing a hat in that picture. they sure fem'd him up in that picture, maybe a lighter light was due for this.

Posted by: Ny's true crown prince at April 14, 2006 1:40 PM

My opinion on whether em is top 5 or not is irrelevant. But the God Rakim said that if he had melanin, he'd be the Muhammed Ali of the rap game...and thats coming from the dude who dropped the 21 MC theory. Real recognize real.

Posted by: 411 at April 14, 2006 1:48 PM

L.P. u a dumb fuck if you think em is so great but hov has no lyrics? How long you been listenin to hip hop music? Prolly about 2 or 3 years cuz only a newbie would say somthing that stupid. Hova would eat that honky up in a battle. You fuckin crazy?

Posted by: bob at April 14, 2006 2:17 PM

^^^WORD !!!!!...EM dont make songs that BLACK PEOPLE coud relate too...JAY has maDE CLASSIC ALBUMS. EM has NO Street Credit..I dont know where yall niggas is FRom..but in EAST FLATBUSH BKLYN I never HEARD a NIggA drive BY BUmbing, " Without me" "My band " or "Hi my name is "...Fuck outta here !!! top 10 HA !!

Posted by: mIZE2 at April 14, 2006 4:09 PM

Hey Bob, You said "Jay would eat that Honky up" . I thought that at one point to but Truthfully, Take a listen to the song "Renegade" in which Hov and Em go back and forth and tell me who eats who? Let's not forget Jigga is not a battle rapper as EM is by nature. Also although Jay might have won the war with Nas, Jay even knows he lost the diss song battle with Nas when Nas dropped "Ether". Remember when Nas says "Eminem murderered you on your own shit". Jay is without a doubt an icon in hip hop and is on another level without a doubt. I am from BKLN and am huge HOVA fan but to say that He would eat the king of Battle Rap is Retarded.Better song writer maybe. better in a battle without a doubt hands down EMINEM. Even Shawn Carter knows that.

Posted by: Retardo Pachero at April 14, 2006 4:26 PM

Mize, Em is one of the realest Rappers . think about it He raps about what he been through or going through ( his wife, his duaghter, taking pills, fans). It's not his fault he did'nt sell drugs or Gang bang in the PJs or talks about how much money he got like all those other Rappers with "street cred" you look up to. Besides The streets do'nt buy any official albums to support there "street cred" rappers they cop the bootlegs and mixtapes cds. At the end of the day it's about spiting some real lyrical shit, making good music and selling units. All the street cred in the world can't pay the bills and get you fame. Just ask the LOX.Oh yea and also Ask Jada ( who has one of the most street cred) If White boy is nice? and whether he wants to be more than just a street cred Rapper. Like my Nigga FIF said "Fuck the hood they do'nt buy albums" . check sound scan and see where all the sales are coming from.

Posted by: BX Stand up! at April 14, 2006 4:57 PM

Yo bob: I ain't never mentioned jay-z in my comment. So why are you bringing him up? I ain't gonna lie--Jay-Z is nice, no doubt. His lyrics are tight. But I'm not into Jay like that, point blank. I'm not a big fan of Jay to be honest. I like Eminem better. That's it. End of story.

I hate it when ol' school cats like you come on to the blogs and try to put down others 'cuz of their varied musical tastes. Dudes like you sound like my grandpa. Be quiet.

Posted by: Helen at April 14, 2006 4:58 PM

And i agree with Retardo Pachero 100%. "Renegade" is hot. But who got me hyped? I said, who got me HYPED! That's right, it was Eminem's verses that drove me insane. He killed it. That white boy has skills. So stop hating bob.

Posted by: Helen at April 14, 2006 5:03 PM

BOO HOO, BOO HOO...
Shut da fuck up please!

Everbody a hardcore killa on they songs, swearing the gone murk, this and assainate that. Busta's wanna claim to be be so gutter and hood why the fuck should you feel anything for them when they get just what they always talking about!
No tears here "homie".
He shot, got shot. Over.
Fuck the whole black people shit cuz Proof or Em never showed any concern for "black people".
More of these fools are gonna die. They don't care why should we.
Fuck 'em all!
Em better stay out the way cuz you know it's gang a mutha's that can't wait to a clear shot at him and slave 50.

Now lewt us pray... HA HA HA HA!

Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 14, 2006 5:17 PM

Em would destroy most Mc's in da game all day. You idiots talking about the white/black stuff...ya'll corny. Get over it. Dre heard dude on a demo didn't even know dude was white and wanted him signed immediatly. This black/white shit is retarted and until ya'll get over it, it will remain in our society, and it's a shame to the human race.

Posted by: J at April 14, 2006 5:19 PM

tha Game in someone's top 5 M.Cs list GET FUCKING Real. He just Dropped last year. what is wrong with you people?

Posted by: BX stand UP! at April 14, 2006 5:29 PM

As for Em top five.
You gotta be craka ass craka!

Now hear this...

White people can never be be top five anything that has to do with soul. Elvis-no-Bo Diddley
Clapton-No-B.B.
Connick-no-Coltrane
EM-no-Rakim
Babe Ruth-no-Josh Gibson
Bird-no-jordan
Rocky-no-Ali
Seinfeld-no-Cosby
Ballroom-no-Break Dancing
Wall street-no-black wall street
Tom Cruise-no-Denzell

I could go on and on. Now of course there is some shit whitey do that we can't fuck (war, porn, crime, brutality, rule by force, hate, lie cheat, steal, and a few good things) but don't feel like you can't be real enough to not give em too much credit.
If he wasn't white he'd be average at best.

Sorry but copies of the orginal are not allowed to be in the top five.

you can hate me now

Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 14, 2006 5:32 PM

This issue is silly. Downplayin' someone 'cuz of his race. A person's skin color has nothing to do with his talent. Didn't you people learn that? Can't you get over the fact that Eminem is white? C'mon now. Don't make this a black/white problem. That s--- is OLD as hell.

Posted by: Helen at April 14, 2006 5:43 PM

Helen.
"You probably a cracka, or nigga that think he craka, or just don't understand," Outkast

See craka's always want us to get over some shit after the done got over on oour ass!
You can ignore black/white if you white.
But do In need to list the shit that's going on now(Diallo/Louima/my boy Steve).
Fuck Em. He just another culutre bandit. And fuck Proof, Dre, D12, Xzibit, and the rest of the coons who co-signed him.

Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 14, 2006 5:55 PM

Death does not purify you.

Dying does not excuse a fucked up life.

The big dirt nap does not make all the shit you done wrong go away.

The permanent box ride does give you forgiveness.

What religious belief can try to kill a man over some dumb shit right before some one kills you in retaliation and you go to heaven?
Sign me up fo that shit!
God Closes doors on muthafuckas too!

Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 14, 2006 6:07 PM

Em is in my top five...
1. Pac
2. Biggie
3. Nas
4. Jay-Z
5. Eminem

I got to give props to Rakim, its hard to not put him on my list. Every one on my list is not only great lyricists but they let you in they life and tell stories, they make music for the block and for the club they do it all...

Posted by: george at April 14, 2006 6:19 PM

Shout out to andre 3000, big-l, pun, jadakiss, bun b, scarface, redman, and lil wayne...

Posted by: george at April 14, 2006 6:26 PM

Shut up George.

Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 14, 2006 6:27 PM

if your name is george you can't be in any hip-hop conversations george.
I kill me self. george' top 5, no rakim, ha ha hah lol lol.
george.

Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 14, 2006 6:29 PM

George.

Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 14, 2006 6:32 PM

Blast4me

You must be the most ignorant bastard I've heard. Your an fuckin idiot dude. Rocky-ali. Did you forget Rocky is a movie you dumb fuck? Unless you where referring to Rocky Marciano who by the way is the only undeafeted heavyweight EVER. Don't be so fuckin ignorant. People like you are a disgrace to not just your culture but all human beings. Go get a job and get the fuck off the computer.

Posted by: J at April 14, 2006 6:33 PM

Em is in the top 3 without a doubt and he's way better then jay-z just listen to RENEGADE!!!!!!

Posted by: shady at April 14, 2006 7:09 PM

Em is the top dude in the game right now. He comes second only to Pac. He can lyrically kill everyone in the game. If he retires there is no reason for me to listen to rap. It's becoming garbage. If he retires I can't blame him.

Posted by: Cyndi at April 14, 2006 7:27 PM

YO Blast4me: your comparing Wallstreet to the black wall street (Game"s label). You are a fucking cornball. Go Blast YOURSELF you worthless Homothug.

Posted by: Come see Bitch ass at April 14, 2006 7:34 PM

J. Hush.
Rocky the movie? You the dummy. So dumb you corrected yourself.
As for the record,it's bullshit. Manufactured. Just like babe ruth's record.
If your discriminating so others can't compete with you your record is trash.
But that's crakas for you. Condem you then call you ignorant when you point it out!
And a fuck you too Miss J.

Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 14, 2006 7:36 PM

Hey Helen did you see that. Your Aryan brother J told me to get a job.
That is one of the many ways to say nigga in public here in 2006.
But of course you don't see it that way.
fuckin barbarians

Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 14, 2006 7:41 PM

"Rocky the movie". Dumbass.
J you a straight up george!

Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 14, 2006 7:42 PM

I love 2Pac as much as anyone but even i know people felt him more because of who he was as a person, his character, his life story was compelling but he is NOT Lyrically better than M&M Let,s get real Cindy Eminiem IS NOT SECOND TO 2Pac. HE Lyracally is better period.

Posted by: Brandy D at April 14, 2006 7:44 PM

Sorry Brandy

But Lyrics ar not just about word play or riddlin'. It's also about content. That's why EM will always fall behind Rakim, KRS One, Rass Kass, Tupac, and so on.
He was good in the Elvis sensem not in the Little Richard sense. And I'm not tyring to be funny or diss you.

Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 14, 2006 7:57 PM

Wow, you must be bitter if those are the 5 rappers you feel have content in there music (what happend to Public enemy,dead prez, and Common). You picked 2 retired rappers who havent dropped an album in years. (There "content might have appealed back in 87), and an in an out of jail underground rapper(rasskass) who never went platnum . M&M sold more than all of the above with what you think was "no content".As for Pac (Who we were really comparing to) well Eminem's pain is also expresed through his music just like Pac.Unfutnanetly his mother was not a black panther and he was not involved in any East vs west beef or did not get shot 5 times and survived only to be signed once out of prison BY a "ruthless Gangster label" and murdered on a Famous strip BUT, Have you listened to Eminems songs other than the one's he has stupid sometimes corny videos for on MTV. If you listen to some of his deeper tracks even on race issues and how he is perecieved in the industry and U.S issues that affect us all. Sorry BLAST4me but in my OPinion This kids got content. P.S this is also not a DISS I love cherish and admire 2pac .

Posted by: Brandy D at April 14, 2006 8:26 PM

this thread aint even have nothin to do with race in the 1st place. eminem is lookin real fucked up these days, even before proof died. strung out off that dope in the mockingbird video, anyone wonder why shake video is a cartoon? he's in everyone's top 5 no doubt. here's my top 5, fuck old school shit.
1. Biggie
2. 2pac
3. Nas
4. Eminem
5. Jadakiss

Posted by: Big Bank Frank at April 14, 2006 8:43 PM

WHO THE FUCK KEEPS SAYING EM IS NUMBER ONE????? ARE YOU FUCKIN KIDDIN? HAVE YOU EVER HEARD READY TO DIE, OR REASONABLE DOUBT, OR STRICTLY FOR MY NIGGAZ, OR ILLMATIC???? Y'ALL REALLY THINK EM'S ALBUMS TOUCH THOSE???

AND WHO THE FUCK IS SAYING JAY-Z AINT TOP FIVE??? BEING A TOP FIVE MC IS DIFFERENT THAN BEING A LYRICIST. MC MEANS THE WHOLE PACKAGE. YALL TALKING ABOUT HOW JAY'S RHYMES ARE WEAK, IT'S BUSINESS. BEING LYRICAL DOESN'T SELL HALF THE RECORDS THAT CLUB BANGERS DO SO IT'S JUST BUSINESS. RESPECT THAT. LISTEN TO HIM ON MOMENT OF CLARITY, "LYRICALLY I'D PROBABLY BE TALIB QWELI...HAD TO DUMB-DOWN, TO DOUBLE MY DOLLARS." HAVE YOU MOTHAFUCKAS HEARD REASONABLE DOUBT? THAT'S BETTER THAN ANY EMINEM ALBUM, IF YOU HAVENT HEARD IT, BUY IT AND YOU WILL AGREE.

AS FAR AS EM BEING BETTER THAN PAC AND BIGGIE??? SHAME ON Y'ALL FOR SAYING THAT SHIT. WHO DO YOU THINK EM LEARNED FROM. HE WAS BUMPIN THEY SHIT FROM 92-96 JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. WHO CAME FIRST, EM OR NAS??? EM OR PAC??? EM OR BIGGIE??? EM OR JAY-Z???

EM WAS SPINNING ALL THOSE CD'S, WHO DO YOU THINK HE LEARNED TO RHYME FROM??? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????

AND HOW ARE EM'S RHYMES DOPE??? WHAT THE FUCK DOES HE SAY BESIDES POPPIN PILLS, HIS CRACK-ADDICTED WIFE, AND HIS SHITTY CHILDHOOD??? HAVE YOU EVER HEARD BIGGIE AND PAC AND JAY AND NAS??? ANY OF YOU??? HOW DOES THAT SHIT EVEN COMPARE???

RETARDS. FUCK OUTTA HERE!

Posted by: A-J at April 14, 2006 8:47 PM

Y'all think SHAKE THAT ASS is lyrical????

what kind of garbage is that????? when's the last time jay or nas or pac or biggie had a WHACK ASS SONG like that????????????????????

Fuckin' retards.

Posted by: A-J at April 14, 2006 8:49 PM

Ya'll kill me with the whole Em ate Jay up in renegade..Nas's bodyguard DID have a better verse in oochey wally , does that make him better? Jay is str8 nasty with it, that nicka has mastered ALL flows. Cant remember Em ever attempting to go at jay, so who's to say? The dude nice, and he gets extra points cuz he white....but to say he's better than RAKIM??

ya'll out ya'll mufuggin minds...lol

Posted by: Ultra Magneezy at April 14, 2006 9:08 PM

Dear Brandy,
#1 thanks for being intelligent and actually have a point that you really believe.

Now I didn't name PE, or Dead Prez, or Common, or Kanye, or Big L, or GZA, but when I said and "so on" they are definatly on a long list of artist the are/were better lyrically than EM.
As for the:
"picked 2 retired rappers who havent dropped an album in years. (There "content might have appealed back in 87), and an in an out of jail underground rapper(rasskass) who never went platnum .
Age and time stand still for great art.
Picaso, Rembrandt.
And as for the...
"M&M sold more than all of the above with what you think was "no content"."
All Ican say is Van Gogh (spelled?)

Now honestly I gave EM a fair chance "I" personaly never bought his "pain" or "deeper track". Pain is what sells now so that's what he tappped.
No different than Vanilla Ice tappin into Hammer.
I never bought it or him.
I can only credit him for his ability to copy and mimick very good.
Like Elvis.
He created nothing new. Contributed nothing of value to hip-hop culture.
He has only took. Like Elvis.
Although he has been smart enough admit it himself!
Does anybody remember that EM line?

Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 14, 2006 9:12 PM

Blast4life You keep saying M&M " mimicked " and "copied" but,can you honestly tell me who you believe M&M mirrored himself after or what he tapped into.?Your comparing Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer (both who have no lyrical skill or content in thier commercial radio friendly songs) and as for the, Although very famous painters you mentioned,(lets keep it real they paint some ugly ass expensive pictures) I didn't see the analogy . But what about the Beastie boyz and 3rd Bass what do you call them Are all whites in hip hop stealing and taking? Let me know so i can know where your coming from. Em is not the 1st White boy in Hip hop but come on, HE is the most Lyrical whiteboy in Hip hop has ever seen . May i ask What do you believe He has taken? and What have all the artist you named contributed to hip hop that em hasn't ?

Posted by: Brandy D at April 14, 2006 10:02 PM

Ultra Magneezy your right Nas's body guard Horse's verse on oochy wally was better than Nas's but do not compare 1 heavy wieght against his own body guard to heavywieghts EM vs Jay batteling for lyrical supremacy on the song "renegade" which was on Jay's album by the way. And if Rakim is sooo much better than Em (which you can't compare because of his legendary status and the generation gap)Than why Did Dr Dre release so many eminem albums and no Rakim album ? lets not forget they were both label mates at one point. ANd please do not play the race card remember Dr. Dre is black and Em is his only white artist which was followed by 50, G unit and Game . You know why Becuase bring Rakim back would be like when Jordan came back to the NBA to play for the Wizards. He was great but we all know he played himself. Much respect to the golden era of rap(hell thats what i grew up on ) but lets stop comparing old school with current school.Lets come up with better anologies.

Posted by: Brandy D at April 14, 2006 10:44 PM

I know for a fact right now eminem does not want to be or act black anymore!.
Em be a geeky whiteboy again so you can live longer!..

Posted by: Some White Guy at April 14, 2006 10:47 PM

Em is alwasys going to sell more records than everybody, because hes white, not hating thats the fact , encore sold something like 8 million copies , that was his worst album , hes mean with it dont get me wrong , but rememebers , em makes beats and who were the twom rappers he gave beats too for no price , JAY Z and nas , renegade, and think about it , it wasnt effortless , we know that because alot of em songs are pure dee crap poppin songs (pills) he knows he hasnt touch most of jays fan based , so he showed reall skills ,, but have mad respect for em hes no poser , he rapps about what hes knows and it is the truth , hell loon laid dip set bare , said these nigga was know hustlers and shit , p diddy loon , i need a girl loon has a bigger shhet than these faggots, hell have of the so called hood rappers are fake as fuck maybe peddle a couple g packs , but never met or done the majority of shit they say , the start believe the fiction the make up , and then try to keep it real , thats whats fucked up , these nigga pattern there verse after movies , newspaper headlines , old hood tails of falll drug lords , and u young ass nigga start believing the shit , and when you start doing the shit and what a nigga did was a lyric to a song ,whats the frist thing themc says
its only entertainment, most entertainment is fiction , so who really keeping it real ,besides , jay young jezzy and rick ross, and a few others who really has street cred , or who gos out a get it before a albums come out Dip set ah ah lololololololo bum ass niggas

Posted by: suave at April 14, 2006 11:20 PM

What did you say bg ;Em cant' tell a story? what the fuck are you talking about bg you ever heard of "Stan", "Toy soldiers", "Whatever yo say i am" or conscience w/ Dr. dre even "Mockingbird" all these songs tell vivid stories. Giv em his props Black or white he is sic on the mic on every level. commercialy,lyricly,story telling ,funny. crazy, sad, battling/dissing .

Posted by: I AM HIPHOP. at April 14, 2006 11:30 PM

here is my top 5 MC's

1. 50 cent
2. Rakim
3. pac
4. biggie
5. Loyd Banks


this is the best top 5 dont hate

Posted by: shakeem at April 14, 2006 11:35 PM

Shakeem your top five only has 2 current rappers and their both from G-unit. Take their BALLZ outcha MOUTH. Loyd is crazy nice but he only has 1 album and needs fifty's help to drop (even though lyrically he is better than fif). Your top 5 artist should be able to stand alone. Chill with Loyd banks youngin, his time will come just not yet.

Posted by: I AM HIP HOP at April 14, 2006 11:54 PM

JADA is Top five DEAD OR ALIVE AND THATS off just 1 LP. The voice is Raspy the flows ridiculus, Not many people can say that they have done songs with BIG,JAY,NAS and EM not to mention damn near the whole industry. think about this ALL these cats are everyones top 5 list and they all made songs with Jada. This speaks volume to me. To quote Jada "always wondered why the money never added up to the love"

Posted by: CravenMooreHead at April 15, 2006 12:05 AM

What it dp Brandy,

Sorry I didn't respond sooner but I had to show this fine ass Jehovah's Witness sister and her cousin the true meaning of "Good Friday!" Soon as my little messiah has a "resurection" we gone get into "The Passion of the nasty".
Forgive me. Whatever.
Okay Brandy: He tapped directly into NWA and Esham (underground Detriot Legend, original shock rapper like brutha lynch and them other fools) also everything that was hot at that time especially Pac and Big in fact the parrallels are obvious. I could go on but c'mon girl think, look, listen.

And yo most them paintings are ugly to me too!
But their work stands the test of time with those who know their art like we know hip-hop.
Van' shit wasn't popular til after his death so fuck record sales was my point. Rass Kass is Van Gogh!
Beastie Boys and 3rd Bass? Damn! Brandy marry Me! You on yo shit! i actually have a intellectual boner right now!
I loved the Beastie Boys music. True Legends. But It's kinda like listenin' to suga free, you like it but you wish you didn't it. I was glad NWA dissed 'em cause cool as they music was they was on some str8 corny don't bathe, OD on er thing, Fight for your right to party shit. Shit I only appreciated at 13. 3rd Bass are EM ancestors only not as talented.
As for what he has taken, let start with what the others have gave. #1.PE-political consciousness and activism. A sampling renasaince,
#2.KRS-A constant reminder of what hip-hop is supposed to be, Several attempts at hip-hop institutions that preserved our art and help race, religion, and social relations, off beat rhyming style. #3. 2pac-Was the voice of a generation, the poor, the hood, the hurt. Formed a political action comitee geared at creating a new voice for young voters. I think I've made my point. Work ethic, Double Cds.
What has Em taken? The soul and focus away from all of that and more.
Now if you'll excuse me it's time for the "second coming!"
BLAST4ME!
HOLLA GIRL!


Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 15, 2006 12:19 AM

Big Bank Frank, yeah right.
To say fuck the old skool is like saying for your parents. You a george!
"what more can I say/I wouldn't be here today/if the old school didn't pave the way/It ain't nuthin' like the old school"
-2PAC

BEEEYACTH!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 15, 2006 12:26 AM

What? What did Em take from NWA? No disrespect but as we all know only a couple of them really wrote all of the groups lyrics. As for "PE contributing political consciousness and activism and sampling renasaince" and 2pac "Forming a political action comitee geared at creating a new voice for young voters". Come on, Ill give you his work ethic but, now a days who really gives a fuck. If i wanted to enlightened myself about politics and going ons in the world i can pick up the newspaper or a good book to inform me, besides we live in a country where even if you lose the popular vote you can still become prez.I doubt hip hop will change any of the views of the tight wads in Washington ( ask Puff and his whole "vote or die" movement) leave changing the world stuff to Rev AL and the Minister. By the way I have never seen any of the above hold his own political convention on TV around voting time as EM did on mtv. Might i add Flavs still a beady eyed crack head picking hoes on VH1, Chuck dee is now a washed radio jockey, 2 Pac is RIP probably because he was indeed trying to create a revolution who knows. I do know that although the masses listened and loved his music they would not agree with him on other political views and do not forget. His mother and family were/are black panthers ( charged in bomings), He was a convicted rapist,been in shoot outs with cops and was signed to a label known as Death Row owned by you know who. Not to mention that he was a key contributer to one of the most tragic events in HIP HOP East Coast /West coast beef. Do you really think most normal people would follow him with such a rap sheet. Listen to his pain thru his song yes, making the world a better place NOT. . And Hasbeen KRS needs to stop saying "I am HipHop"( i'm sick of his old wide nose ass saying that) He WAS hiphop back in the late 80's not twenty years later. The Idea of the temple of hip hop is a great idea without a doubt but his arrogant ass should not be in charge of it. His bridge has been over 20 years ago. I breathe hiphop and for a young girl I know whats what but please compare EM to at least people that have been relevent within the last decade Blast4life. even Pac has been dead for about ten years.

Posted by: Brandy D at April 15, 2006 1:52 AM

Damn, Em looks fucked up.

Posted by: LaDaDaDee at April 15, 2006 7:04 AM

yo 4get bout em all, pac iz da best RIP ma nuggaz

Posted by: newpac at April 15, 2006 7:16 AM

Top 5

1.eminem
2.pac
3.nwa
4.rakim
5.213

pretty fkin obvious dont b chattin s**t bout old skl pac, biggie started this 92-96 shit, em is as bigg or bigga than they r and he stil 'live 2day, u saw marshall mathers lp haha classic, right up ther, u saw 8 mile and the soundtrack album 2 tht sellin 10 mill plus, em easy top3, lil wayne, jadakiss fk them faggots few decent hits haha jkin me aint ya, eminem onli gd cos he white half u faggots on tht racist s**t now notatall m8, if pac/biggie stil round 2day then tht'll proove ow gd em is teaming up wit' em, how can he mix s**t with half fagg's in the game 2day onli decentt ppl are: jay, fitty, pharrell, 213, dre, nas, even usher, game, akon is a hit (snitch), kanye, santana (ahit), dmx! and em's worked wit these, other rappers need 2up the game if they wanna sell +10mill, wit em producin' pac's album shows his talent and ambition 2 carry on with working wit the legends, em also doin the most eminem on biggie's album tht a big hit 2 shd hitta video, b-sides biast diddy chttin s**t how biggie the bes nah notatall sunshine x.

Posted by: no_show at April 15, 2006 7:27 AM

Yo top 5 is
1. pac
2. jay z
3. big
4. nas
5a. LL cool J (due to longevity 1984-present, he is still in the mix)
5b. Rakim
6. Eminem
7. KRS One
8. Ice Cube
9. Wu tang as a group
10. Snoop Dogg (remeber the buzz when doggystyle)

As for the dude that said if your under 22 you don't know hiphop, that's not true at all fam. I grew up on west coast hip hop, and still was kinda hip to the east nah mean. But radio was different in cali as to where I was hearing dru down, richie rich, too short, e-40 on the radio, the east had a whole different rotation, therefore we were exposed to different kinds of rap. But I still was hearing the wu, nas, etc... At the same time.

Posted by: dottie p at April 15, 2006 10:16 AM

Yo top 5 is
1. pac
2. jay z
3. big
4. nas
5a. LL cool J (due to longevity 1984-present, he is still in the mix)
5b. Rakim
6. Eminem
7. KRS One
8. Ice Cube
9. Wu tang as a group
10. Snoop Dogg (remeber the buzz when doggystyle)

As for the dude that said if your under 22 you don't know hiphop, that's not true at all fam. I grew up on west coast hip hop, and still was kinda hip to the east nah mean. But radio was different in cali as to where I was hearing dru down, richie rich, too short, e-40 on the radio, the east had a whole different rotation, therefore we were exposed to different kinds of rap. But I still was hearing the wu, nas, etc... At the same time.

Posted by: dottie p at April 15, 2006 10:16 AM

i like the smell of cum ringworm rash and ear wax and sometimes i like to put them toghter to form the ultimate smell emmmmmmmmmmm it smellssss so goood

Posted by: gf at April 15, 2006 10:26 AM

here is my top 5 MC's

1. 50 cent
2. Rakim
3. pac
4. biggie
5. Loyd Banks


this is the best top 5 dont hate

Posted by: shakeem at April 15, 2006 11:32 AM

here is my top 5 MC's

1. 50 cent
2. Rakim
3. pac
4. biggie
5. Loyd Banks


this is the best top 5 dont hate

Posted by: shakeem at April 15, 2006 11:32 AM

I agree with shakeem

Posted by: teshawn at April 15, 2006 11:34 AM

MY GOSH ENGLAND REPRESENT...
EITHER BE A CLOWN OR SOMEONE WITH A POINT.. BUT PLEASE DONT BE A PERSON WHO WRITES FOR SO LONG THAT NO ONE WANTS TO READ IT

Posted by: MIKE,SW,HTOWN at April 15, 2006 11:52 AM

LOYD BANKS ????? Although Lyod banks is sic wit his punchlines and he is the most lyrical out his camp Y'all are buggin to include such a new comer over Jay, EM, or Nas on your top five of all time list. Shit he's not even better than Jada or PUN. And just to put Yall on he even has the wackest verse in Busta's touch it re-mix.Don't front.

Posted by: BX Stand UP! at April 15, 2006 2:05 PM

who the fuck is puttin lloyd banks on their top 5? is that a joke? blast4me, man i just dont listen to old school rap. that shit is just before my time homey. ice cube is nice, but i just dont relate to most of that shit. as for jay-z, i just don't like that nigga. he don't appeal to me for some reason. my write-in for the top 5 would definitely have to be wu-tang though. raekwon, ghostface, meth, odb, rza, gza, man they all clean. rick ross is the new rapper of the year though. that nigga is sick as fuck. jadakiss is off the rip though, anybody that don't include him on they top 5 is crazy.

top 5 dirty south?
1. UGK
2. Outkast
3. T.I.
4. Scarface
5. Trick Daddy

Posted by: frankster04 at April 15, 2006 2:36 PM

Hey frankster04 your list seems pretty tight (for the south) but what about T.I calling himself King of the south whatcha know about that? and what about the poster poy for the south in recent years LUDA>

Posted by: Y'all come back Y'all hear at April 15, 2006 2:49 PM

bg

HOW IN THE HECK IS TRICK DADDY WACK?

LISTEN TO "THUG HOLIDAY" & "I JUST WANNA SANG."
DUDE IS A LOT BETTER THAN MOST OF THOSE RAPPERS WHO CAN'T SWITCH UP THEIR SUBJECT MATTER FROM "I BE HUSTLIN' IN A MAYBACH WITH ICE ON MY WRIST & PLATINUM IN MY MOUTH".

I AGREE THAT LUDA SHOULD BE ON EVERYONE'S SOUTH LIST.

Posted by: MR FUH Q MAN at April 15, 2006 4:05 PM

i guess it could go either way. i think t.i. is currently the king of the south no doubt about it. he's on top of the game down here. i havent heard any one say that they thought lil flip won that battle. undergrounmd legend is one of my favorite albums, but he totally sold out after that. as for ludacris, i really can't believe i left him out of that list. he should've totally been included on that list. 8ball & mjg and three 6 mafia should be on that list somewhere too. i dont think anyone besides 50 is downin the south, and he's just pissed cause swishahouse took away from his sales on the massacre. listen to jadakiss "what's everybody so mad at the south for? learn how to switch your style up and go south paw"

Posted by: frankster04 at April 15, 2006 4:19 PM

Tricks smokes dust a eat cod fish fritter all day anyway the whole south know that shit he the mayor of miami But he ain't fin fuck with Luda .

Posted by: DirtyDirty at April 15, 2006 4:23 PM

Three 6 Mafia ?? THAT OSCAR THEY WON REALLY GOT YALL DOWN SOUTHBOYZ STEADY TRIPPIN ON SOME SZRUP. PROJECT PAT AND DEM DUDES BEEN AROUND BUT TO SAY THERE ON TOP SOUTH FIVE . STOP IT. YOUR KILLING ME . FUCK them devil worshipin ass negros.

Posted by: NYC to the fullest at April 15, 2006 4:32 PM

i beg to differ, i dont think they worship the devil. thats a ridiculous statement. it has nothin to do with the oscar either, everybody's been bumpin their mixtapes and shit since the early 90s. three 6 mafia is off the chains even if their subject matter is a little tired.

Posted by: frankster04 at April 15, 2006 6:18 PM

I heard that bloodmoney is wacker than
yayo.it comes out may 2nd yall need to cop that t.i. i know i will

Posted by: shakeem at April 13, 2006 02:46 PM

Posted by: shakeem at April 15, 2006 9:19 PM

I heard that bloodmoney is wacker than
yayo.it comes out may 2nd yall need to cop that t.i. i know i will

Posted by: shakeem at April 15, 2006 9:21 PM

Eminem is the greatest no doubt, he's got no competition tell me who is better lyrically then Em... and who can sell as many albums as Em... and finally who else can sell out STADUIMS ALL OVER THE WORLD. NO ONE!!!

Posted by: shady at April 15, 2006 10:16 PM

top 5 lists:

1. kool herc
2. akrika bambata
3. cool dj red alert(boyeeee)
4. KURTIS BLOW
5. grand master caz/sugar hill gang(ground-breaking 4 your favorite rapper)

they can NEVER be a top 5 list without THIS list first. OLD SCHOOL is the NU SCHOOL, RESPECT GAME

RIP 2 ALL MY FALLEN HIPHOP SOLDIERS

Vanglorious! This is protected by the red, the black, and the green -- with a key, SISSIEEEES!

Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 15, 2006 11:07 PM

Hey."blowitouthaass" what list is this? the first rappers to receive a pension from rapping . All these niggas is grand Daddies. Shut your old ass up before i punch you dead in your "Gazel" glasses and rob you for your "shelltoe" adidas with the fat laces. Please stop living in the a past. Hiphop has always been youth influnced and orientaded keep up with the culture grandpa.

Posted by: blowit out yours at April 16, 2006 1:12 AM

no shit, fuck them old school niggas, they stuck in the 80s

Posted by: frankster04 at April 16, 2006 1:44 AM

Top 3 MC's Of All Time

1.Jermaine Dupri
2.diddy
3.lil fizz

Posted by: joe camel at April 16, 2006 2:31 AM

^^^
LMAO!!

Posted by: !!!!!! at April 16, 2006 2:58 AM

blow it out yours,

gay internet thug i wish you would heel-walk up on me, bitch. i have no problem stretching ur ass out on those paramedics wheels, homie. HIPHOP IS STRUGGLE & GHETTO INFLEUNCED SINCE 1978, SO WHAT YOU NEW GAY MA FUCCAS MAKING MONEY OFF MY OLD SCHOOL HIPHOPPERS. YOU NEED TO RESEARCH OUR CULTURE, MC ONE NUTT.

Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 16, 2006 3:29 AM

FUCK YOUR COCK-SUCKING GAY LOVER 2, FRANKSTER 04! LMAO, you ass strap-polker

Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 16, 2006 3:43 AM

a yo you forgot Lil Tupac, i mean Lil Zane

Posted by: Dylan at April 16, 2006 4:33 AM

oh yeah i forgot about deion sanders.
the best that ever did it off the field.

Roy Jones is tha truth son do not sleep on him.

Kevin Federline. Man i seriously thought he was ginna give Em a run for his money. Em better look out for him.

Posted by: shakeem at April 16, 2006 5:04 AM

So ya'll didn't think "must be the money" was poppin' at the time? lmaooooo

Posted by: Ultreezy Magneezy at April 16, 2006 8:30 AM

hell naw, but i love my boy PRIMETIME best man to man cornerback ever.

but dont forget about that positive K joint was tight:
hmmm, i'm not having it.

plus that father mc was gangsta:
I'll Do 4 U & NO SECRETS

but my favorite was the fu shickens
I ain't got nothing 2 prove

want 2 snatch rebounds like RODMAN everytime i heard, arrbbdee arrbbdee arrbbdee doo!

Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 16, 2006 9:25 AM

top 5.

1. k-fed
2. bow wow
3. lil romeo
4. kris kross
5. shaq diesel

yall are crazy if u dont agree with me.

Posted by: frankster04 at April 16, 2006 10:27 AM

stop using my name you losers
and cop that bloodmoney on may 2nd

Posted by: shakeem at April 16, 2006 1:36 PM

The top 5 MC's of all time is as follow:

5. KRS 1
4. B.I.G./PAC (2 way Tie)
3. Ice Cube
2. NAS/Jay Z (2 way Tie)
1. Rakim

Em is within the top 10; more like the 7 or 8 spot.

It is sad that we have lost another person in Hip Hop. Many of the hypocrites that advance this Gangsta shit have already come out and expressed their condolences about proof's death. Yet, their corporate masters will have them back in the lab producing more poison for our youth to consume. Don't get me wrong, this gangsta rap shit did not kill proof. Proof was killed over your everyday nigga shit that happens in the hood. However, maybe if we romanced knowledge of self in at least some of hip hop lyrics and if the uncle Tom and Thomasina's radio personalities and DJ played this type of hip hop every once and a while we could start to change the pysche of the Black community and help our people become better decison makers. I know that is a just a dream to expect that to happen. I am sadden by the death of Proof. May the creator be pleased with this brother.

Posted by: Top 5 is at April 16, 2006 2:09 PM

Niggers are still way behind in evolution.
They still have a millenia to evolve into civilized human beings!...

Posted by: Massa at April 16, 2006 3:05 PM

bow wow
romeo
diddy

m8 u need elp if u tink those 3 in the top mc's !! LMAO diddy cn't fkinm mc, and as 4 bow wow n romeo, prik go out n buy chronic, mashall mathers lp, blueprint, get rich . . ., life after death etc m8, u'll hear propa mc' then m8 x

Posted by: wonderboy at April 16, 2006 4:07 PM

YO, who ever is writing under the name SHAKEEM YOU ARE MADD FUNNY KEEP GOING. I was taken you serious for a minute.BOW WOW, Romeo, K-FED LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Posted by: BLOWITOUTHAYAASS at April 16, 2006 11:42 PM

YO, who ever is writing under the name SHAKEEM YOU ARE MADD FUNNY KEEP GOING. I was taken you serious for a minute.BOW WOW, Romeo, K-FED LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Posted by: BLOWITOUTCHAASS at April 16, 2006 11:45 PM

HEY TOP 5 How can you put JAY/Nas before Biggie/PAC when no one knows what level Big and Pac would have reached. Remember they both died at only 25 and had short yet very powerful and influencial carreers. Shit if i recall Jay and Nas were around back then Yet, who were the Top cats BIG/PAC. Who knows if Jay and Nas ( to me nas was out the picture until Jay called him out)would be where there @ today if Big N PAC were still alive. Who knows where HIP HOP would be period. Think about this and Please reconsider your Top 5 order

Posted by: Brandy D at April 16, 2006 11:59 PM

HAR HARR shakeem for a start stop trana sound like a rapper wit ya name u fkin faggot, bow wow HAHAHAH AHAHAAH AHAHAHA lil romeo hardest n**** out, ye i thought u woz bein serious 4a minute 2, no1 gives a s*** wher u 4rm n stop tlkin shit " i owe them my life" 4 what a fkin g-unit t-shirt, stop tlkin like u in the fkin game fkin prik sum1 get this gimp of the siet, ano diddy writes 4 biggie tht's y he aint in the top 5, haha carry on speakin tho HAR HARRR u is funny shit x HAHAHAHA LMAO.

1.eminem
2.pac
3.nwa
4.213
5.rakim

Posted by: no_show at April 17, 2006 7:28 AM

haha sikoo, tht shakeem chttin s*** stil, "bow whizzle", ye he gd artist no doubt i got his album wanted, but mc's m8 get him the fk outta tht category, lil romeo cba wit him me lil 7 yr old sis listen 2 him cos they probz same height n age so mc'in nah notatall kid, diddy ye he sound in the way he writes but mc'in, not atall agen, lets diddy jus st@y 2 his clothes maybe they snd u 1 a sean john t-shirt, st@y of the siet! let's hear ure top 5 >? x

Posted by: wonderboy at April 17, 2006 7:33 AM

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Posted by: Essex at April 17, 2006 10:34 AM

Brandy D. I am in agreement with your general sentiment regarding PAC and Big. These two men made an indelible mark on Hip Hop and a generation of music.

However, when I look at the total picture I have to put NAS and Jay Z ahead of Big and Pac for the category of the Best or greatest MC’s. If we are asking the question who is the most consequential MC’s I would have to place Pac in particular as number 1. He was and is the Malcolm X and Marvin Gaye of his generation. He was arguably the most conscious and intelligent M.C. we have ever seen with Chuck D., KRS 1 and Rakim and NAS and some others close on his hills. As for BIG, BIG was a lyrical Acrobatic, only Rakim was better than him lyrically. BIG’s flows were Bananas. But unfortunately as you said they both died when they were 25 years of age. It is their short life span that I must take into consideration when rating the Greatest MCs.

NAS and Jay Z are men who are a half hour away from 40 years of age. As men in their mid to late 30’s they are still the standard that everyone in hip hop try to measure up to when they try to assess their own worth as an MC.

Pound for Pound, yes you are right, Pac and Big are better. Unfortunately, they did not have the time to have the run that NAS and Jay have had. I don’t know of any other two rappers, ever, who had the level of superstar status as NAS and Jay Z while in their mid to late 30’s. Think about this, 50 is the industry biggest star today. If NAS and Jay Z wanted to get revenge they could easily do it. I mean given the strength of their street and general hip hop creditability and their superior MC skills, they could kill 50’s career as an MC almost immediately if they decided to attack. The reality is that NAS want even entertain the thought of battling 50 because he sees this as being beneath him. 50 is just not a worthy opponent for him as Jay Z was. Basically it would be an unfair beef. The same is true for Hov. I mean Game and more blatantly Cam tried to diss. But Jay Z’s attitude is why deal with MC’s who don’t have ¼ of my skills and talents.

Brandy D, it was a tough decision but that how I see it. If BIG and Pac was here and alive today they would be sitting at number 2 not Nas and Hov. In terms of the number 1 spot, no one come Close to “The God” Rakim. Clearly he is number 1.

Posted by: Top 5 at April 17, 2006 11:29 AM

MY TOP 5:

In no particular order

Jadakiss - say what you want but dude rips it! Plus is voice is different then others in the game. His word play is vicious and he might be a little in the dark when it comes to business but dude is a beast.

TI- Yes I said T.I. He isn’t new to the game. He has four albums now and his worst one was grand hustle and that was still legit. Cope "I'm Serious" most slept on album.

Jay-z - nuff said. Whether he is flowing fast or slow he is that fire! He’s nasty on the mic.

2pac- I don’t dick ride and say it just to say it. Man was on point. He was the all around package. His raps ranged from club joints to conscious lyrics to murk albums. He was a G. point blank.

Ice cube- I know some people won’t agree but he is a beast. “I’m ugly and pretty” best line.

Other people are good to shouts out to method man and snoop was hot till he started that girl’s gone wild I’m a pimp shit. Outkast is that fire! Mos Def is a beast. Bone thugs were crazy! Pastor troy is sick! Dre brought heat. Kanye west, hate all you want but homeboy has skills. Eminem is crazy wit it and I’m gonna through lil Kim in the mix to. Best female rapper ,Unless yall can tell me other wise.

Posted by: Mo at April 17, 2006 11:46 AM

No disrespect to Pac but Eminem is the greatest rapper of all time. I don`t understand why so many people hate on Em, cause he is white? Thats right he is white, he is one crazy white boy who can spit fire any given day. That boy is the truth. We need more lyricists like EM. Game is one up and coming, puting the westcoast back on the map cause it has disapeared since Pac. Eminem put it best when he said " HIPHOP is in a state of 911". Rap sucks these days, too many fake, not talented, commercial ass rappers that have nothing good to say in their songs. It is garbage! Hip hop was wayyyy better in the late 90`s. The music industry is killing themselves. Setting themselves up for failure. People like 50 cent won`t last long from here on out, people get fooled once, but not twice.

Posted by: Miami at April 17, 2006 1:02 PM

To Miami:

Em has an incredible flow and delivery. However his lyrical content in terms of his subject matter is wak to me. I am a black man and white domestic-related issues along with dysfuctional family narratives of an impoverished white male does not appeal to me. Dissin your mother and wife on wax is definately some white boy shit. Certainly Em's ability to deliver his story and his word play are impressive. When I look at Rakim, KRS 1, NAS, Ice Cube, PAC, BIG and Hov for years they have me given me stories that I can relate to and club 2. I have no concept of what is to be white trash ( No disrespect intended but this is the story I here from em). I have no concept of what is it like to wish death on my mother. To me this is wak and white.

Rakim on the other hand has better word play and his intellect and conscousness is superior to Em. Pac intellect blows Em completely out of the water.

See, for me you must have content, flow, word play, and delivery. Content is where EM fall short when compared with the great. In fact, if you ask me, I think many people give him a little bit more than they should just because his is white and showned a tremendous ability to spit lyrics. It appears to me at times that the Em whiteness is the hook. Let not descredit him for being white but let also not overcompensate either.

Em appropiate place is about 7 or 8 all times not number 1 unless you are white and can relate to being trash.

Posted by: Top 5 at April 17, 2006 1:46 PM

I dont give a fuck what none of ya niggaz say.....eminem is the greatest rapper ever......eben if you mix Pac,Biggie,Rakim,Canibus,Jay-Z,Nas,Big L and Pun and mix them they still would add to Em. He's the greatest ever. I remember when i went to his show once and he threw his shirt in the audience and i caught it. I felt the sudden urge to thrust the armpit part of the shirt into my face, taking deep breaths and rolling my eyes in the back of my head. It was orgasmic.i then went home and jumped up and down with a q tip in my left ear with both my hands in the air, violently shaking at the thought of eminems sweaty armpits. after falling unconscious for half an hour,i listen to the marshal mathers lp album butt ass naked with cocoa butter on my body and a dead cricket on my lower lip........

Posted by: Stan at April 17, 2006 1:57 PM

Top 5 Dirty South MC's

1. Scarface
2. Andre 3000
3. Big Boi
4. Ludacris
5. Jin (Miami) But if you consider Virginia to be South, make it SkillZ

Top 5 Midwest MC's.

1. Eminem
2. Royce
3. Common
4. Twista
5. Bone (all ofum)

Top 5 West Coast MC's

1. Cube
2. DOC (By way of Dallas)
3. Rass Kass
4. Tash (Alkoholics)
5. Tie between Karupt, Xhibit, & Snoop

Top 5 Freestylers / Battle rappers

1. Jin
2. Juice (Chi Town)
3. Supernatural
5. Eminem
6. Canibus

Top 5 Storytellers

1. Slick Rick
2. Eminem
3. Andre 3000
4. B.I.G.
5. Nas

Top 5 Revolutionary MC's.

1. KRS One
2. 2Pac
3. Chuck D
4. Jeru The Damaja
5. Cube

Top 5 female MC's

1. L-Boogie
2. Bahamadia
3. Rah Digga
4. MC Lyte
5. Shawna - b4 DTP,(group called Syndicate, from Chi check for it).

Top 5 Thug rappers

1. 2Pac
2. Beans
3. MOP
4. JadaKiss
5. Lil Wayne


Top 5 Party rappers

1. Busta Rhymes
2. Diddy
3. Nelly
4. Snoop
5. 50 Cent

Top 5 producers

1. Dr. Dre
2. Tie between Kanye and Primo(legend)
3. Timbaland
4. Neptunes
5. Tie between Scott Stortch, The Roots, and Jermaine Dupri (he bite too much though)

Top 5 cats that they will have the best MC argument over in 15 years.

1. Papoose
2. Young Buck - Watch what i'm telln u!
3. Lil Wayne
4. Jae Millz
5. Lloyd Banks


Top 5 where are they now?

1. Pudgee the Phat Bastard
2. Killah Priest
3. Tash (Lics)
4. Rock (Heltah Skeltah)
5. Tie between Killah Mike and Memphis Bleek

Top 5, How the fuck did they get on the first place?

1. Bone Crusher
2. Bizzare
3. Son of Bizerk
4. J Kwon
5. Chingy

Top 5 groups

1. OutKast
2. Wu-Tang
3. EPMD
4. NWA
5. Tribe Called Quest

I could go on all day.

Posted by: Thrillz at April 17, 2006 2:20 PM

To Thrillz:

Not Bad with a few disagreements.

Your Lloyd Bank choice is wak. Homie only has 1 flow and 1 flow alone won't give you longjevity. Your stroytellers list is wak with the exceptions of NAS and Slick Rick. Let's add Common, Hov and Pac to that list and erase the other 3.


Your Top 5 of How the fuck did they get on the first place? Is Funny as hell and I agree with it.

Replace outkast with Public Enemy for Top 5 groups.

The Mop is Wak for Top 5 Thug rappers. Homie look west for a replacement.

Top 5 Freestylers / Battle rappers

Drop any two you please and replace them with Cassidy and Jada.

The DOC selection was on point. DOC would have been one of the best to ever do it if it wasn't for that car accident.

Thrillz you are a cat who basically knows hip-hop but it is a crime to leave Rakim off your list. Homie, you should do time for committed a crime of such large porportion.

However, your list overall is not bad.

Posted by: Top 5 at April 17, 2006 2:47 PM

Correction:

I slipped on your top 5 story tellers. BIG should remain. Em is 6 on this list but the whiteboy narratives are annoying. Add PAC and HOv to your list. Common should be number 7.

The Party list is hard to look at but I guess I agree. It just that Nelly, Diddy and 50 fall outside of my definition of Hip Hop. All three of them to me are wak. What about Wyclef...just his ability rock crowds as a replacment, as well as Dougie Fresh and KRS 1. I like keeping my lists to real hip hop cats.

Posted by: Top 5 at April 17, 2006 3:03 PM

EMINEM IS NOT COMING BACK TO DA GAME BE CAUSE HE DID WHAT ELVIS DID LEARN BLACK WAYS LEARN BLACK STYLES AND KEPT IT WHITE . THE WHOLE D12 & OBIE TRICE THING ETC. WAS JUST FOR IMAGE . THINK ABOUT IT AS LONG AS HE WAS BEEFIN WIT OTHER WHITE ARTIS HE WAS COOL AND THEN HE STARTED BEEFIN WIT OTHER RAPPERS HE RAN OUT THE RAP GAME AND NOW WANT TO BE A FAMILY MAN. HELL NO HE'S NOT COMIN BACK HE'S ALWAYS SCARED. EMINEM IS BACK TO BEING JUST WHITE AGAIN

Posted by: ddeadly at April 17, 2006 3:31 PM

Top 5

Yea you right about Lloyd Banks, I was feeling a lil suspect about that one, but I just ain't sure yet on that whole new crop of New New York cats. So I just went with Banks.

I left Rakim out because he obviously belongs on the top 5 greatest of all times list and that list has been debated since last week. I didn't want to beat a dead dog anymore.

PE over Outkast, I can't roll with cause even though PE was a group they were more of a movement with a lead MC in Chuck D. They had the illest hype man ever but we all know Terminator X wasn't cuttin. And S1W's were a millitary dance group. And Sister Souljah didn't start spittin until the group was on the way out the door.

And you takin' MOP off my Thug List dog? I can swap Jadakiss for MC Eight but MOP dog? And you a real hip hop cat and you ain't feelin' MOP?

You definitely on point with puttin Cassidy on that battle rap list I forgot about him.

Storytellers, I'm from Chi so I'm feelin Common, but his storys tend to sound the same. Props for uplifting the brothers and sisters but it seems like you heard all of them from him. As far as Pac goes (don't kill me) but none of his storys since 'Soldiers Story' moved me.

And yea that Party list was hard to fatham and look at once I did it.

Posted by: Thrillz at April 17, 2006 4:18 PM

I can live with MOP on the list. I am just thinking that with the west being the creators that there have to be someone else in front of the line. And I can't put MOP in front of the other cats you have on the list. Anyway, your lists were sort of tight, homie.

You made an excellent point about P.E. Also, that's a Good Look about Ra too.

Posted by: TOP 5 at April 17, 2006 4:31 PM

To Brandy D:

I read your earlier post in which I generated a great deal of appreciation for your ability to articulate your thoughts through written expression. However, I could not disagree stronger with your of your characterization of PAC. We must remember that Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X, Paul Robeson, Harriet Tubman, Martin Luther King Jr.and countless others had a so-called rap sheet. Pac’s rap sheet and all the others fail in comparison to rap sheet of our oppressors. They are the true rapists, murderers and thieves. Yet, many people follow them. I think we should also be careful to trivialized the contributions of those such as KRS 1 and Chuck D. Before they hit the seen many people had not have any concept of Black consciousness.

Further, when I last check, Em had not contributed anything of substance to Black people. In fact, he gave us one of the biggest Uncle Toms in the History of Hip Hop which is 50 cent (50 is an admitted George Bush lover). Bush prior to being SELECTED president was a prolific Black Male killer as the Governor of Texas. Under his leadership he executed more Black males on Death row than any other Governor. Also under his leadership as a Texas Governor he allowed vicious attacked Dogs to rip the flesh of Black Male inmates…yeah just like he did with the Arabs in Iraq. In you saw his leadership when Blacks were drowning in the filth of Katrina.

Thanks Em for bringing 50 to the forefront! Thanks for setting our people back; that is exactly what we needed in this day and time.

Moving forward; although I admire you’re intelligence and ability to engage in critical thought, I disagree with your characterization of some of our most important artists since the genre hit Black America and subsequently white America and the globe.

Also, Em’s skills are at a level where he should be compared with the greats both today and yesterday. We have the proper instruments and environment to make sure that our findings from the comparison are reliable and valid. We can measure with creditability, one’s content/subject matter, ability articulate and deliver lyrics, longevity, and relevancy to the hip hop community along with other meaningful measurable variables. We can even conduct a regression analysis in just deal with the most important variables to make an assessment of Em, if needed. And just like we measure money through time and periods of inflation we can account for the time period from today through and yesteryear.

So, as a student of hip hop and history, I can never discount the past when making an assessment of anything. Anyone in any entity looks at history to assess the current and predict the future. Anyway, Em is a great hip hop artist but his whiteness is insinuating his greatness when in reality he not at the level many are now trying put him at. Yes a top 10 MC I think at the number 8 spot and that is it (ell maybe 7). Again let give him credit without going overboard and being ridiculous.

With that being said, Brandy I like how you rep on this Blog.

Posted by: TOP 5 at April 17, 2006 6:21 PM

YO MO How can you mention Lil Kim SHE DONT EVEN WRITE HER OWN SHIT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT.

Posted by: BX STAND UP! at April 18, 2006 12:33 AM

HEY TOP 5 Thanks for reconsidering your order with the whole Jay/Nas Big/Pac Thing. 1st Thanks but no thanks with the history lessons ( for which i do agree 99% with you on by the way) I never meant to sound as if Krs, and PE were "trivial" All i was trying to say was You don't always have to go to your heroes (and legends) of the past to compare to EM Just becuase you guys feel like his "content" is not empowering/compelling enough for you. Keep this in mind. CONTENT is in the eye of the beholder. What might appear to you as important subject matter might not to others. Although hiphop was birthed by us as a way of urban freedom of expression through music it has now evolved into much more than that. Hip Hop no longer just belongs to blacks and minorities of the urban cities, It is now a world wide phenomenon that has been embraced by the world. Southern crunk,chopped N screwed,G-funk,regaeton, backpack pro black rap, horror core rap, commercial rap etc.ALL people now listen Europeans,Chinese,Mexicans etc ( U see how sucsessful hiphop world tours are) . With this diverse evolution we must now consider also the evolution of"content" See I'm a Black women and I'm sick of people using the whole "He's white and i don't care too much about what he talk about" shit. I mean Respect and recognize his position as one of the top lyricists in the GAME atleast for keepin it real and rhyming about what he knows about ( Family deaths/suicide,His wife/ His daughter,Doing drugs,etc. Sorry if this is no content to you but guess what? Not everyone is into the fight" pro black fight the power /we must learn 87 movement" Some people like to leave that to their HOWARD U professers. As for "credibility" as i said he talks only about what he knows and i believe thats pretty credible cause his family is indeed pretty screwed up. AS for "one’s content/subject matter" as i said Content is in the eye of the beholder, what might not apeal to you might appeal to millions of others ( as reflected by his album sales). As for his "ability to articulate and deliver lyrics": you can't be serious, his vocabulary and word play is sic and you yourself said he's one of the top story tellers. As for "longevity" we'll see? But we all know that you do not have to be in the game for long for people to consider you great (look @ Big/Pac), And as for Relevancy, might be too soon to tell as well but, if the amount of comments on this blog compared to other subjects,sold out arenas over the world and record sales are any indication of his relevancy than i think we can give him that too. To summ my feelings all up Please look beyond skin color, The whole "he's the white devil" thing is played . Don't give him any props for being white though just base it on his skills on the mike. But just think about how much harder he had to work to make it in this game and earn the respect of his peers. If you really look at it Besides selling more records, him being white was actually a burdon to make it in a mostly all black game and if where talking about him than i guess his mission has accomplished.

Posted by: Brandy D at April 18, 2006 2:26 AM

Hey Brandy D.

We generally agree in princple. When I read your blogs I always agree with 98% of what you say and disagree with 2 percent. Yes, everything you said about Em is true. I never doubted his ability as an MC. I think it is clear he is nice with his. What I objected to is overcompensating him (with props) simply because he is white. I think the truth is probably the knife cuts both ways. Also his subject matter is not appealing to me, however I agree with you Em does play to a larger and more racially diverse audience.

Howard University is an Excellent school with a strong reputation. Many of my nationalist brothers and sisters attended Howard University. They also have a great number of young intellectuals. I salute Patrick Swygert for keeping that school strong and relevant.

Finally, I partly disagree with whiteman is the devil is played comment. While I am not ready to put that on an entire race. It is a profound and serious subject given by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and Nation of Islam that I don't we should charactarized as its played. Believe it or not I see the Honarable Elijah Muhammad and his philosophy as one os the top 5 effective and still relevant programs in Black America. Just look at his Student the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan. However, that's a point we can agree to disagree on.

Basically I don't have a beef with you. We agree on most of these concepts and I am glad that you are on here making a strong contribution from a strong black female intellectual point of view.


Posted by: Top 5 at April 18, 2006 7:51 AM

To Top 5 and Brandy D.

Ahhh it's refreshing to see two people having a real decent, articulate, and educated discussion on here.

But yall gone lose some people with them big ass words. I can smell brain cells frying through the internet now. Niggas got dictionarys and thesauruses out trying to figure out "what the hell did they just say".

Fuck keepin' it real keep it Intelligent my peeps.

Posted by: Thrillz at April 18, 2006 11:24 AM

And RIP to the dude that Proof shot before he was killed. The guy died yesterday.

CEASE FIRE!!

Posted by: Thrillz at April 18, 2006 11:38 AM

em the best rapper in the game 2day trust me on tht 1 and arguably the bes' rapper of all time bt as u all syin we dno bout pac, biggie, pun, big l etc and what they cud of produced into hip-hop/rap. but 4 em 2stil sell +70mill records now is unbelievable also having been so fortunate with 8mile grossing in £160mill, shady records having signed: fitty, d-12, o-trice, stat quo and ca$his, shady ltd now starting to make it big, shade45 aruable accross the u.s bes' radio station 2day, producing albums such as: pacs, get rich, producing amazin beats & songs such as: renegade, we ain't, welcome 2 detroit, lose yourself, dead wrong remix (tht amazin' ft b.i.g) defo many more. hands dwn tho em stil got more 2cum cos of proof's death and he alredy workin' on d-12 album (the ambition), trust me afta em dun his part on (the doctors advocate) the game and (detox) dre he gona hit a cum bk and produce sumthing big, he shud start 2 make hits wit': pharrell, 213, kanye, propa dre hit not no encore s***, loadz more he jus gona hit us bk wit a rebirth of marshal mathers lp.

top (no orda)

em
pac
b.i.g
213
rakim
n.w.a
jay
pun
big l
nas

i can't tink any1 lse who fit the category maybe u can, jus' sayin chers xxx

Posted by: the_kidd at April 18, 2006 11:53 AM

chek evry site typin' top 10 rappers all time ! trust me 9/10 u gona c eminem in top5 even top 3 ! arguable em is bes' and in decade or so u wil realise this props to em. top 3 evry1 noz this no order em pac biggie, neverming pun rakim nwa run dmc, yall no tht is 4sure top3 ded or alive. props x

Posted by: no_show at April 18, 2006 12:14 PM

ye i agree wit all them up the page. g-unit are hitting sum levels wit the talent they got signed specially: bank$, yayo n mase but i no they as a group will sell few mill but solo they all gona sell 1-3mill. the game documentary sold 5mill, trust me onli album i scared of coming out props haha'z is doctors advocate cos it gona be raw in the way the game had adapted and collaborated wit his blackwalstret, dre, em, tht gona sell 10mill honestly i aint jus chttin bout it it gona b a little part the dre.s detox, if he dus a sik song wit dre this time and anuda jus as massiv as we'aint tht beat amazin, then he gona sell loadz and he aint gona diss 2much either on it. as for detox well tht gona b the album of the yr, truthfully like 50 sed bout em's encore, other artist betta no bring out and album until detox passes over cos dre hittin the chronic then chronic 2001 OMG the detox sh** is gona b huge, massiv collabs wit em obcourse, snoop, timbaland omg this gona blow and be jus as popular as his other albums, top 20 of al time.

Posted by: wonderboy at April 18, 2006 12:26 PM

RIP Big Proof... if i say anthing else it'd be selfish an wack...

an i'm not even gona waste my breath addressin halfa yall em-haters. halfa yas prolly think southern rap is tight (hahaha no its not, atall, not one bit)
em may of fell off, but he decided to. encore was an obvious suicide.. its all there in between the lines, ONE of the MANY and more obvious hints of this is written ON THE DISK ITSELF... he was TRYING to kill his career, an when that didnt work, he took the gracefull route w/ 'when i'm gone'... an if you think em had only ONE good johnt your crazy, INFANITE is one of the top-5 best hip hop cds ever imo, an no hip hop isnt gangsters... thats ridiculous. Dude was a fuckin worsmith an a half on infante, you cant touch it. So theres Infanite, SlimShady EP, SlimShady LP [<~ the first johnt to halfa yalls], Marshall Mathers LP were great. Devils Night [d12] was fire too. Eminem show was great but i put it in a different catagory... the point is EM was obviously -trying- to kill his career, painfully obvious, an thats no reason to hate on the man, it aint all about YOU an he gave us many great tracks an signed alotta tallent [cept 50 that dudes a waste of studio space] ...its over.

an nah i wont be back so thats my word, dont try to argue w/ me you'd be masturbating.

Posted by: LSD at April 18, 2006 7:54 PM

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Nas and Jay grew up. KRS came out with Criminal Minded, and a year or so ago he dropped Spiritual Minded. Kane ain't rockin' high top fades no more. Don't hold people accountable for growin' up. That was a dumbass statement.

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DAMN THRILLZ U DON'T LISTEN WORTH A DOG SHIT. FIRST I WAS RESPONDED TO SOME STUPID SHIT SOMEONE WROTE EARLIER ABOUT EM COMIN BACK RAPPEN WORST THAN EVER. I WAS EXPLAINING WHY HE'S NOT COMIG BACK STUPID FUCK. AND I AM A OLDER NIGGA AND I KNOW ABOUT GETTIN OLDER AND WISER. BUT AINT NOTHING I SAID WAS BULLSHIT. HE DIDN'T LEAVE THE RAP GAME BECAUSE HE GOT OLDER HE LEFT BECAUSE HE GOT SCARED. I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING EM CAREER SINCE DAY 1 BITCH.

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IF WHITNEY HOUSTON STOP SMOKIN CRACK I'LL BE PROUD BUT SS LONG AS SHE KEEP SMOKING SHE'S A STUPID SELLOUT BITCH. IN OTHER WORDS GET TO KNOW ME BEFORE YOU JUDGE ME MUTHA FUCKA!!!!!!

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JUS WANA SAY R.I.P. TO THE FALLING D-12
RAPPER PROOF. AND TO GAVE MY BIG UPS TO HIS FAMILY AND DA REST OF THE SHADYAFTERMATH & G-UNIT FAMILY FOR THE LOST OF THEIR FRIEND. I HOPE THIS SURDEN
LOST WILL SET AN EXAMPLE FOR PEOPLE TO STOP STREETS VIOLANCE. YA MUST KEEP TOGETHER. REST IN PERFECT PEACE TO PROOF

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i think em looks hot as usall but he looked way better in 2005 and i hav a coment 4 him u should hav never married that ho again i mean everybody new it wasnt going 2 stay all nic and crap i lov u em but stop bein an idiot and dont drop out u and proof are the only thing i hav & now ur the only person iv got and i dont wunt u 2 stop makin music itl break my heart cuz ur music is da only thing that reminds me of my freinds cuz i cant c em any more
and ur my role motal and always will be

AND IM ALMOST 12 im goin 2 b 12 on sept 5 ...much lov

im sorry 4 ur lost em R.I.P. PROOF

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ohhh my god...can sumone tell me what is wrong with eminem face..talk bout homie is on one..or on sumthing..sum one help da boy..i mean he is rich but boy needs to take care of his health soon...drop that weight...stay off that shit...stay real EM...sorry bout PROOf..i think we all are...R.I.P..aight yall no more covers for em..till he drops..10more pnds...aight $.CENtrA.L..CALi as always in da building...1Luvv2006*

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Hers my list: of all time.

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Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: London Akins at May 12, 2007 5:18 PM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: London Akins at May 12, 2007 5:20 PM

William Styron, whose Holocaust novel Sophie's Choice became a film and an opera, has died, aged 81...

Posted by: Pranav Walton at May 12, 2007 5:25 PM

Pioneering screenwriter Nigel Kneale, best known for the Quatermass TV serials and films, dies aged 84...

Posted by: Jonathan Bermudez at May 12, 2007 5:26 PM

William Styron, whose Holocaust novel Sophie's Choice became a film and an opera, has died, aged 81...

Posted by: Keon Atchison at May 12, 2007 5:37 PM

William Styron, whose Holocaust novel Sophie's Choice became a film and an opera, has died, aged 81...

Posted by: Keon Atchison at May 12, 2007 5:37 PM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Omarion Seibert at May 12, 2007 5:45 PM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Omarion Seibert at May 12, 2007 5:45 PM

Classical singer Russell Watson postpones his forthcoming UK tour after undergoing brain surgery...

Posted by: Sabastian Berlin at May 12, 2007 5:52 PM

Classical singer Russell Watson postpones his forthcoming UK tour after undergoing brain surgery...

Posted by: Sabastian Berlin at May 12, 2007 5:53 PM

A musical about the witches from The Wizard of Oz breaks West End box office records, its producers say...

Posted by: Erik Locklear at May 12, 2007 5:54 PM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Stephon Aleman at May 12, 2007 6:02 PM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Dexter Trent at May 12, 2007 6:04 PM

A musical about the witches from The Wizard of Oz breaks West End box office records, its producers say...

Posted by: Omar Caraway at May 12, 2007 6:12 PM

A musical about the witches from The Wizard of Oz breaks West End box office records, its producers say...

Posted by: Omar Caraway at May 12, 2007 6:13 PM

A musical about the witches from The Wizard of Oz breaks West End box office records, its producers say...

Posted by: Omar Caraway at May 12, 2007 6:13 PM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Colton Whitt at May 12, 2007 6:17 PM

Veteran game show host Bob Barker is stepping down from hosting The Price is Right after 35 years...

Posted by: Howard Gilliland at May 12, 2007 6:17 PM

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Posted by: Aiden Hinton at May 12, 2007 6:28 PM

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Posted by: Aiden Hinton at May 12, 2007 6:30 PM

The Red Hot Chili Peppers are leading the way at this years MTV Europe music awards with four nominations...

Posted by: Estevan Cyr at May 12, 2007 6:35 PM

A musical about the witches from The Wizard of Oz breaks West End box office records, its producers say...

Posted by: Grady Huerta at May 12, 2007 6:39 PM

Madonna says she may adopt another child from abroad following her proposed adoption of a Malawian boy...

Posted by: Cordell Strader at May 12, 2007 6:55 PM

Colombia's vice president is "baffled" by Kate Moss's success following cocaine allegations...

Posted by: Nikhil Vera at May 12, 2007 7:05 PM

The Rolling Stones cancel a gig in Hawaii and postpone other tour dates as Mick Jagger suffers throat troubles...

Posted by: Jaheim Saucedo at May 12, 2007 11:03 PM

The Rolling Stones cancel a gig in Hawaii and postpone other tour dates as Mick Jagger suffers throat troubles...

Posted by: Jaheim Saucedo at May 12, 2007 11:05 PM

Madonna says she may adopt another child from abroad following her proposed adoption of a Malawian boy...

Posted by: Beau Palumbo at May 13, 2007 11:52 PM

Pop trio Atomic Kitten will reform to play a concert in support of jailed Liverpool football fan Michael Shields...

Posted by: Alonzo Manzo at May 13, 2007 11:54 PM

Pop trio Atomic Kitten will reform to play a concert in support of jailed Liverpool football fan Michael Shields...

Posted by: Vincent Gilliam at May 14, 2007 12:01 AM

Borat creator Sacha Baron Cohen reportedly signs a $42.5m (22m) film deal starring his character Bruno...

Posted by: Julien Joy at May 14, 2007 12:10 AM

Borat creator Sacha Baron Cohen reportedly signs a $42.5m (22m) film deal starring his character Bruno...

Posted by: Julien Joy at May 14, 2007 12:10 AM

Borat creator Sacha Baron Cohen reportedly signs a $42.5m (22m) film deal starring his character Bruno...

Posted by: Julien Joy at May 14, 2007 12:10 AM

The judge who put coded messages in his Da Vinci Code plagiarism trial ruling has written another...

Posted by: Jaheim Speer at May 14, 2007 12:18 AM

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Posted by: Dwight Gresham at May 14, 2007 12:19 AM

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Posted by: Dwight Gresham at May 14, 2007 12:20 AM

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Posted by: Dwight Gresham at May 14, 2007 12:20 AM

Social networking site MySpace is to block users from uploading copyrighted music to its pages...

Posted by: Braiden Blaylock at May 14, 2007 12:26 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Santiago Denman at May 14, 2007 12:29 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Santiago Denman at May 14, 2007 12:30 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Santiago Denman at May 14, 2007 12:30 AM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Gideon Rowell at May 14, 2007 12:36 AM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Gideon Rowell at May 14, 2007 12:36 AM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Gideon Rowell at May 14, 2007 12:37 AM

Veteran game show host Bob Barker is stepping down from hosting The Price is Right after 35 years...

Posted by: Marco Yamamoto at May 14, 2007 12:38 AM

Record company EMI sign a deal with the estate of crooner Dean Martin to use the singer's likeness...

Posted by: Rafael Bowser at May 14, 2007 12:45 AM

Record company EMI sign a deal with the estate of crooner Dean Martin to use the singer's likeness...

Posted by: Rafael Bowser at May 14, 2007 12:46 AM

Pop trio Atomic Kitten will reform to play a concert in support of jailed Liverpool football fan Michael Shields...

Posted by: Jovanny Bagwell at May 14, 2007 12:54 AM

The Red Hot Chili Peppers are leading the way at this years MTV Europe music awards with four nominations...

Posted by: Kole Cannon at May 14, 2007 1:01 AM

TV host Oprah Winfrey gives audience members $1,000 (526) each to donate to a charitable cause...

Posted by: Marcelo Cave at May 14, 2007 1:07 AM

TV host Oprah Winfrey gives audience members $1,000 (526) each to donate to a charitable cause...

Posted by: Marcelo Cave at May 14, 2007 1:08 AM

Veteran game show host Bob Barker is stepping down from hosting The Price is Right after 35 years...

Posted by: Reed Wampler at May 14, 2007 1:10 AM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Jorge Marshall at May 14, 2007 1:17 AM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Jorge Marshall at May 14, 2007 1:18 AM

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Posted by: Shayne Quinonez at May 14, 2007 1:18 AM

The judge who put coded messages in his Da Vinci Code plagiarism trial ruling has written another...

Posted by: Reed Flora at May 14, 2007 1:26 AM

The judge who put coded messages in his Da Vinci Code plagiarism trial ruling has written another...

Posted by: Reed Flora at May 14, 2007 1:26 AM

Pop trio Atomic Kitten will reform to play a concert in support of jailed Liverpool football fan Michael Shields...

Posted by: Dawson Sturm at May 14, 2007 1:33 AM

Pop trio Atomic Kitten will reform to play a concert in support of jailed Liverpool football fan Michael Shields...

Posted by: Dawson Sturm at May 14, 2007 1:33 AM

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Posted by: Kadin Stroud at May 14, 2007 1:40 AM

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Posted by: Kadin Stroud at May 14, 2007 1:41 AM

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Posted by: Kadin Stroud at May 14, 2007 1:42 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Clarence Mccants at May 14, 2007 1:43 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Clarence Mccants at May 14, 2007 1:43 AM

The first stage of a 150m investment in regional museums is praised for boosting visitor numbers...

Posted by: Javier Lim at May 14, 2007 1:50 AM

The Rolling Stones cancel a gig in Hawaii and postpone other tour dates as Mick Jagger suffers throat troubles...

Posted by: Mario Simpson at May 14, 2007 2:00 AM

The judge who put coded messages in his Da Vinci Code plagiarism trial ruling has written another...

Posted by: Alijah Maxwell at May 14, 2007 2:07 AM

The first stage of a 150m investment in regional museums is praised for boosting visitor numbers...

Posted by: Bradyn Justus at May 14, 2007 2:15 AM

The first stage of a 150m investment in regional museums is praised for boosting visitor numbers...

Posted by: Bradyn Justus at May 14, 2007 2:15 AM

William Styron, whose Holocaust novel Sophie's Choice became a film and an opera, has died, aged 81...

Posted by: Joshua Oliveira at May 14, 2007 2:15 AM

The first stage of a 150m investment in regional museums is praised for boosting visitor numbers...

Posted by: Bradyn Justus at May 14, 2007 2:16 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Alessandro Mcclelland at May 14, 2007 2:21 AM

A musical about the witches from The Wizard of Oz breaks West End box office records, its producers say...

Posted by: Armando Kraus at May 14, 2007 2:22 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Alessandro Mcclelland at May 14, 2007 2:22 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Alessandro Mcclelland at May 14, 2007 2:22 AM

Borat creator Sacha Baron Cohen reportedly signs a $42.5m (22m) film deal starring his character Bruno...

Posted by: Daryl Hand at May 14, 2007 2:29 AM

Borat creator Sacha Baron Cohen reportedly signs a $42.5m (22m) film deal starring his character Bruno...

Posted by: Daryl Hand at May 14, 2007 2:29 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Jayden Villasenor at May 14, 2007 2:31 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Jayden Villasenor at May 14, 2007 2:31 AM

Jonathan Ross is dubbed "risque" by Ofcom but not in breach of rules over an interview with David Cameron...

Posted by: Tyler Winn at May 14, 2007 2:36 AM

Jonathan Ross is dubbed "risque" by Ofcom but not in breach of rules over an interview with David Cameron...

Posted by: Tyler Winn at May 14, 2007 2:37 AM

Social networking site MySpace is to block users from uploading copyrighted music to its pages...

Posted by: Steven Zapata at May 14, 2007 2:37 AM

Singer George Michael lends the piano on which John Lennon wrote Imagine to an anti-war exhibition...

Posted by: Justice Augustine at May 14, 2007 2:51 AM

Social networking site MySpace is to block users from uploading copyrighted music to its pages...

Posted by: Roland Canada at May 14, 2007 2:51 AM

Singer George Michael lends the piano on which John Lennon wrote Imagine to an anti-war exhibition...

Posted by: Justice Augustine at May 14, 2007 2:52 AM

Singer George Michael lends the piano on which John Lennon wrote Imagine to an anti-war exhibition...

Posted by: Justice Augustine at May 14, 2007 2:52 AM

Jonathan Ross is dubbed "risque" by Ofcom but not in breach of rules over an interview with David Cameron...

Posted by: Jaden Gooch at May 14, 2007 2:59 AM

TV host Oprah Winfrey gives audience members $1,000 (526) each to donate to a charitable cause...

Posted by: Rocky Mcintosh at May 14, 2007 3:07 AM

TV host Oprah Winfrey gives audience members $1,000 (526) each to donate to a charitable cause...

Posted by: Rocky Mcintosh at May 14, 2007 3:07 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Blake Robison at May 14, 2007 3:14 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Blake Robison at May 14, 2007 3:15 AM

London-born rapper Sway is to be honoured at the BET Hip-Hop awards in the US...

Posted by: Brendan Bliss at May 14, 2007 3:20 AM

Record company EMI sign a deal with the estate of crooner Dean Martin to use the singer's likeness...

Posted by: Ricardo Gaytan at May 14, 2007 3:21 AM

London-born rapper Sway is to be honoured at the BET Hip-Hop awards in the US...

Posted by: Brendan Bliss at May 14, 2007 3:22 AM

London-born rapper Sway is to be honoured at the BET Hip-Hop awards in the US...

Posted by: Brendan Bliss at May 14, 2007 3:23 AM

Record company EMI sign a deal with the estate of crooner Dean Martin to use the singer's likeness...

Posted by: Ricardo Gaytan at May 14, 2007 3:23 AM

Record company EMI sign a deal with the estate of crooner Dean Martin to use the singer's likeness...

Posted by: Ricardo Gaytan at May 14, 2007 3:23 AM

The Red Hot Chili Peppers are leading the way at this years MTV Europe music awards with four nominations...

Posted by: Immanuel Wing at May 14, 2007 3:27 AM

The Red Hot Chili Peppers are leading the way at this years MTV Europe music awards with four nominations...

Posted by: Immanuel Wing at May 14, 2007 3:29 AM

A musical about the witches from The Wizard of Oz breaks West End box office records, its producers say...

Posted by: Vincent Bush at May 14, 2007 3:36 AM

A musical about the witches from The Wizard of Oz breaks West End box office records, its producers say...

Posted by: Vincent Bush at May 14, 2007 3:37 AM

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Posted by: Jaylin Peltier at May 14, 2007 3:37 AM

Madonna says she may adopt another child from abroad following her proposed adoption of a Malawian boy...

Posted by: Orion Brown at May 14, 2007 3:44 AM

The Rolling Stones cancel a gig in Hawaii and postpone other tour dates as Mick Jagger suffers throat troubles...

Posted by: Desmond Eads at May 14, 2007 3:44 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Vernon Mead at May 14, 2007 3:52 AM

William Styron, whose Holocaust novel Sophie's Choice became a film and an opera, has died, aged 81...

Posted by: Victor Mcclary at May 14, 2007 3:52 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Vernon Mead at May 14, 2007 3:52 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Vernon Mead at May 14, 2007 3:52 AM

William Styron, whose Holocaust novel Sophie's Choice became a film and an opera, has died, aged 81...

Posted by: Victor Mcclary at May 14, 2007 3:52 AM

The Red Hot Chili Peppers are leading the way at this years MTV Europe music awards with four nominations...

Posted by: Nigel Cassidy at May 14, 2007 4:04 AM

Record company EMI sign a deal with the estate of crooner Dean Martin to use the singer's likeness...

Posted by: Nathanial Pedigo at May 14, 2007 4:04 AM

Record company EMI sign a deal with the estate of crooner Dean Martin to use the singer's likeness...

Posted by: Nathanial Pedigo at May 14, 2007 4:13 AM

London-born rapper Sway is to be honoured at the BET Hip-Hop awards in the US...

Posted by: Tyrese Bush at May 14, 2007 4:43 AM

London-born rapper Sway is to be honoured at the BET Hip-Hop awards in the US...

Posted by: Tyrese Bush at May 14, 2007 4:43 AM

The judge who put coded messages in his Da Vinci Code plagiarism trial ruling has written another...

Posted by: Donovan Foreman at May 14, 2007 4:43 AM

The judge who put coded messages in his Da Vinci Code plagiarism trial ruling has written another...

Posted by: Donovan Foreman at May 14, 2007 4:43 AM

The first stage of a 150m investment in regional museums is praised for boosting visitor numbers...

Posted by: Austin Stott at May 14, 2007 4:49 AM

Borat creator Sacha Baron Cohen reportedly signs a $42.5m (22m) film deal starring his character Bruno...

Posted by: Geoffrey Weldon at May 14, 2007 4:49 AM

The first stage of a 150m investment in regional museums is praised for boosting visitor numbers...

Posted by: Austin Stott at May 14, 2007 4:51 AM

The first stage of a 150m investment in regional museums is praised for boosting visitor numbers...

Posted by: Austin Stott at May 14, 2007 4:51 AM

Borat creator Sacha Baron Cohen reportedly signs a $42.5m (22m) film deal starring his character Bruno...

Posted by: Geoffrey Weldon at May 14, 2007 4:52 AM

Borat creator Sacha Baron Cohen reportedly signs a $42.5m (22m) film deal starring his character Bruno...

Posted by: Geoffrey Weldon at May 14, 2007 4:52 AM

The Rolling Stones cancel a gig in Hawaii and postpone other tour dates as Mick Jagger suffers throat troubles...

Posted by: Collin Cornett at May 14, 2007 4:57 AM

The Rolling Stones cancel a gig in Hawaii and postpone other tour dates as Mick Jagger suffers throat troubles...

Posted by: Collin Cornett at May 14, 2007 4:59 AM

The Rolling Stones cancel a gig in Hawaii and postpone other tour dates as Mick Jagger suffers throat troubles...

Posted by: Douglas Araujo at May 14, 2007 4:59 AM

Colombia's vice president is "baffled" by Kate Moss's success following cocaine allegations...

Posted by: Carlo Cohn at May 14, 2007 5:08 AM

The Red Hot Chili Peppers are leading the way at this years MTV Europe music awards with four nominations...

Posted by: Emmett Cobbs at May 14, 2007 5:15 AM

Social networking site MySpace is to block users from uploading copyrighted music to its pages...

Posted by: Clay Hutchins at May 14, 2007 5:23 AM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Brendon Casas at May 14, 2007 5:23 AM

Social networking site MySpace is to block users from uploading copyrighted music to its pages...

Posted by: Clay Hutchins at May 14, 2007 5:24 AM

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Posted by: Phoenix Sadler at May 14, 2007 5:33 AM

Colombia's vice president is "baffled" by Kate Moss's success following cocaine allegations...

Posted by: Leonard Fincher at May 14, 2007 5:33 AM

Colombia's vice president is "baffled" by Kate Moss's success following cocaine allegations...

Posted by: Leonard Fincher at May 14, 2007 5:33 AM

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Posted by: Phoenix Sadler at May 14, 2007 5:33 AM

Veteran game show host Bob Barker is stepping down from hosting The Price is Right after 35 years...

Posted by: Anton Maxey at May 14, 2007 5:43 AM

The first stage of a 150m investment in regional museums is praised for boosting visitor numbers...

Posted by: Giovanny Gilley at May 14, 2007 6:08 AM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Niko Collins at May 14, 2007 6:08 AM

The first stage of a 150m investment in regional museums is praised for boosting visitor numbers...

Posted by: Giovanny Gilley at May 14, 2007 6:08 AM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Niko Collins at May 14, 2007 6:08 AM

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Posted by: Ibrahim Denny at May 14, 2007 6:28 AM

Singer George Michael lends the piano on which John Lennon wrote Imagine to an anti-war exhibition...

Posted by: Alvaro Oliver at May 14, 2007 6:31 AM

William Styron, whose Holocaust novel Sophie's Choice became a film and an opera, has died, aged 81...

Posted by: Moshe Brittain at May 14, 2007 6:39 AM

The Red Hot Chili Peppers are leading the way at this years MTV Europe music awards with four nominations...

Posted by: Cameron Lynn at May 14, 2007 6:45 AM

Classical singer Russell Watson postpones his forthcoming UK tour after undergoing brain surgery...

Posted by: Edwin Anglin at May 14, 2007 6:45 AM

TV host Oprah Winfrey gives audience members $1,000 (526) each to donate to a charitable cause...

Posted by: Erick Satterfield at May 14, 2007 6:50 AM

William Styron, whose Holocaust novel Sophie's Choice became a film and an opera, has died, aged 81...

Posted by: Ty Corwin at May 14, 2007 6:52 AM

TV host Oprah Winfrey gives audience members $1,000 (526) each to donate to a charitable cause...

Posted by: Erick Satterfield at May 14, 2007 6:52 AM

William Styron, whose Holocaust novel Sophie's Choice became a film and an opera, has died, aged 81...

Posted by: Ty Corwin at May 14, 2007 6:52 AM

TV host Oprah Winfrey gives audience members $1,000 (526) each to donate to a charitable cause...

Posted by: Chaim Lawson at May 14, 2007 6:59 AM

TV host Oprah Winfrey gives audience members $1,000 (526) each to donate to a charitable cause...

Posted by: Chaim Lawson at May 14, 2007 6:59 AM

TV host Oprah Winfrey gives audience members $1,000 (526) each to donate to a charitable cause...

Posted by: Chaim Lawson at May 14, 2007 7:00 AM

London-born rapper Sway is to be honoured at the BET Hip-Hop awards in the US...

Posted by: Oswaldo Lutz at May 14, 2007 7:00 AM

London-born rapper Sway is to be honoured at the BET Hip-Hop awards in the US...

Posted by: Oswaldo Lutz at May 14, 2007 7:00 AM

William Styron, whose Holocaust novel Sophie's Choice became a film and an opera, has died, aged 81...

Posted by: Rey Bateman at May 14, 2007 7:05 AM

William Styron, whose Holocaust novel Sophie's Choice became a film and an opera, has died, aged 81...

Posted by: Rey Bateman at May 14, 2007 7:05 AM

A musical about the witches from The Wizard of Oz breaks West End box office records, its producers say...

Posted by: Irvin Dudley at May 14, 2007 7:12 AM

A musical about the witches from The Wizard of Oz breaks West End box office records, its producers say...

Posted by: Irvin Dudley at May 14, 2007 7:12 AM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Eli Styles at May 14, 2007 7:18 AM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Eli Styles at May 14, 2007 7:19 AM

Pioneering screenwriter Nigel Kneale, best known for the Quatermass TV serials and films, dies aged 84...

Posted by: Omari Barone at May 14, 2007 7:24 AM

Pioneering screenwriter Nigel Kneale, best known for the Quatermass TV serials and films, dies aged 84...

Posted by: Omari Barone at May 14, 2007 7:25 AM

Pioneering screenwriter Nigel Kneale, best known for the Quatermass TV serials and films, dies aged 84...

Posted by: Omari Barone at May 14, 2007 7:25 AM

Record company EMI sign a deal with the estate of crooner Dean Martin to use the singer's likeness...

Posted by: Isaias Vo at May 14, 2007 7:32 AM

Record company EMI sign a deal with the estate of crooner Dean Martin to use the singer's likeness...

Posted by: Isaias Vo at May 14, 2007 7:33 AM

Jonathan Ross is dubbed "risque" by Ofcom but not in breach of rules over an interview with David Cameron...

Posted by: Markus Pichardo at May 14, 2007 7:38 AM

Jonathan Ross is dubbed "risque" by Ofcom but not in breach of rules over an interview with David Cameron...

Posted by: Markus Pichardo at May 14, 2007 7:39 AM

Jonathan Ross is dubbed "risque" by Ofcom but not in breach of rules over an interview with David Cameron...

Posted by: Markus Pichardo at May 14, 2007 7:39 AM

The Red Hot Chili Peppers are leading the way at this years MTV Europe music awards with four nominations...

Posted by: Kelly Witte at May 14, 2007 7:45 AM

The Red Hot Chili Peppers are leading the way at this years MTV Europe music awards with four nominations...

Posted by: Kelly Witte at May 14, 2007 7:46 AM

The Red Hot Chili Peppers are leading the way at this years MTV Europe music awards with four nominations...

Posted by: Kelly Witte at May 14, 2007 7:46 AM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Fred Martinez at May 14, 2007 7:54 AM

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Posted by: Fred Martinez at May 14, 2007 7:54 AM

Classical singer Russell Watson postpones his forthcoming UK tour after undergoing brain surgery...

Posted by: Lewis Hodge at May 14, 2007 8:00 AM

Classical singer Russell Watson postpones his forthcoming UK tour after undergoing brain surgery...

Posted by: Lewis Hodge at May 14, 2007 8:01 AM

The Red Hot Chili Peppers are leading the way at this years MTV Europe music awards with four nominations...

Posted by: Easton Stringer at May 14, 2007 8:06 AM

The Rolling Stones cancel a gig in Hawaii and postpone other tour dates as Mick Jagger suffers throat troubles...

Posted by: Rahul Dobbs at May 14, 2007 8:12 AM

The Rolling Stones cancel a gig in Hawaii and postpone other tour dates as Mick Jagger suffers throat troubles...

Posted by: Rahul Dobbs at May 14, 2007 8:13 AM

The Rolling Stones cancel a gig in Hawaii and postpone other tour dates as Mick Jagger suffers throat troubles...

Posted by: Rahul Dobbs at May 14, 2007 8:13 AM

Veteran game show host Bob Barker is stepping down from hosting The Price is Right after 35 years...

Posted by: Terrance Sherry at May 14, 2007 8:19 AM

Veteran game show host Bob Barker is stepping down from hosting The Price is Right after 35 years...

Posted by: Terrance Sherry at May 14, 2007 8:20 AM

London-born rapper Sway is to be honoured at the BET Hip-Hop awards in the US...

Posted by: Kameron Rinaldi at May 14, 2007 8:25 AM

The first stage of a 150m investment in regional museums is praised for boosting visitor numbers...

Posted by: Jamar Whiteman at May 14, 2007 8:43 AM

The first stage of a 150m investment in regional museums is praised for boosting visitor numbers...

Posted by: Jamar Whiteman at May 14, 2007 8:44 AM

The first stage of a 150m investment in regional museums is praised for boosting visitor numbers...

Posted by: Jamar Whiteman at May 14, 2007 8:44 AM

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Posted by: Jarred Carrier at May 14, 2007 8:49 AM

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Posted by: Jarred Carrier at May 14, 2007 8:49 AM

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Posted by: Jarred Carrier at May 14, 2007 8:50 AM

TV host Oprah Winfrey gives audience members $1,000 (526) each to donate to a charitable cause...

Posted by: Omari Dorman at May 14, 2007 9:01 AM

TV host Oprah Winfrey gives audience members $1,000 (526) each to donate to a charitable cause...

Posted by: Omari Dorman at May 14, 2007 9:03 AM

Madonna says she may adopt another child from abroad following her proposed adoption of a Malawian boy...

Posted by: Tate Cooksey at May 14, 2007 9:08 AM

Madonna says she may adopt another child from abroad following her proposed adoption of a Malawian boy...

Posted by: Tate Cooksey at May 14, 2007 9:09 AM

Madonna says she may adopt another child from abroad following her proposed adoption of a Malawian boy...

Posted by: Tate Cooksey at May 14, 2007 9:10 AM

Colombia's vice president is "baffled" by Kate Moss's success following cocaine allegations...

Posted by: Oswaldo Pate at May 14, 2007 9:16 AM

Colombia's vice president is "baffled" by Kate Moss's success following cocaine allegations...

Posted by: Oswaldo Pate at May 14, 2007 9:17 AM

Colombia's vice president is "baffled" by Kate Moss's success following cocaine allegations...

Posted by: Oswaldo Pate at May 14, 2007 9:18 AM

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