Does Rap Music Make Kids Have Sex?

SOHH reports: “A new study published in Pediatrics Magazine has revealed that raunchy rap lyrics are likely to push teenagers to have sex before the age of 16.”

Yeah, right. Lust is what urges teenagers to have sex at a young age.

However, let’s be real, my hip-hop people. Radio and TV outlets need to regulate the songs with raunchier lyrics to late night time slots, when kids are supposed to be asleep.

It’s a shame that BET played Marcus Houston’s naked video on 106th & Park, a show targeted to kids. And I can’t pick on Houston or BET because it happens across the industry.

I know that studies like the one quoted above are off in who they assign blame too, but it’s time for hip-hop to take responsibility, and it needs to start from within our own community.

Posted by SOHH Hashim at April 4, 2006 1:41 PM

Comments

I agree some of the stuff on BET should be regulated, but I don't think that will change a thing.

Posted by: Rude Nigga at April 4, 2006 1:55 PM

thats the most dumbest shit i ever heard lil nigga, its like sayin does god(Yahweh) make u go and kill Budha, Allah, and Krishna after life? wtf

Posted by: hoodlum at April 4, 2006 2:02 PM

hoodlum: Shut up you dumbass.

East Springfield 4 Life.

Posted by: shortyfolks at April 4, 2006 2:06 PM

Personally, I blame the chemicals in Similac and Enfamil plus school luch milk for kids having sex earlier. All of these 12 year old girls are way too developed 40D tits at 9 and what not.

I also blame the fashion industry for pushing the trend of wearing skin tight jeans. Why the hell does Baby Phat sell stretch material jeans in size 4T??? Better yet, why are mothers buying this shit for a 3-4 year old.

In Ray-J's new video, he's all but fucking the girl...it's way too much - he's tounging her down and a I recall this in a Joe video, Tyrese, Marques Houston etc. music videos are the equivalent of 1960s softcore porn.

Little girls love Beyonce and try to make her seem all wholesome but in Baby Boy she was moaning in the first verse as she laid on the bed all sweaty/greasy with her hair all wild like she just got plugged.

Posted by: Regina at April 4, 2006 2:24 PM

This shit is dumb
Of Course Hip-Hop makes you have sex.

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Posted by: Essex at April 4, 2006 2:42 PM

Of course it pushes people to have sex. Every time I hear a Trina song .. I wanna smash. When I saw that Marques Houston video.. it made me wanna smash. I whispered in shorteys ear and said "Wait till you see my d*ck". Just like T.I. I had to show em "What I know about that" after we was done they said "I know all about that". After that Busta video I had to let shorty ""Touch it - bring it - pay it - watch it -turn it - leave it - stop - format it". By the time Shawna's new video came on "I was gettin some head" she called me "Jolly Rancher (Oh) Cuz I stay so hard You can suck me for a long time (Oh my god!)". And when Marques Houstons song came on we was already "butt-naked" but she still shook her "Laffy Taffy" cuzz she knew my sex was "unpredicatable and we was about to do something she never done before". So I threw on some sean paul and turned up the "Temperature" and even though she knew "I was in luv with a stripper" she let me feel her "lovely lady lumps" and said "she don't give a damn if I'm lookin at her [beep] it don't mean a thing if I'm lookin at her [beep] she was gonna do her thing while I'm playin with my [beep]" all before I made her yell the "O"hhhhhhhhhh sound right when it was goin down.

Feel me?

Posted by: Sam C. at April 4, 2006 2:43 PM

yeah there's no need to try to deny it, hip hop makes you have sex... it also promotes violence... i mean off of the top of my head, i can name a list of rappers that have been in jail...Shyne, Diddy,Beanie sigel,Don p of trillville,Snoop dogg,Dmx,Black rob,Pimp c,Tony yayo,Lil kim,Tupac,Jay-z,Cassidy,Suge knight,Baby aka birdman,Young jeezy,Young buck,Lloyd Banks,Eminem,BG,Hell rell,Turk,Odb... and countless more people...

i love hip hop, but there's no use in defending it.

Posted by: reality at April 4, 2006 2:47 PM

I am gonna have to say that i do believe that we are all free morale agents and being that makes us able to choose if we want to imulate the filth on tv or ignore it BUT i also know that this music is getting and has been getting out of hand. The video's and songs are getting more graphic and less creative, its sad when you see little girls on videos heel toeing it up to i was getting some head. or hearing how some dude is going to have lots of girls in one night. SEX SALES. but at what cost? sex is now a gimmick or something to do for fun. sex isnt about loving someone anymore. i put partical blame on tv and music and partical blames on us as people. as long as we condone it they are never gonna get they mind right

Posted by: Mo at April 4, 2006 2:49 PM

it's not just rap music sex always have sold and will continue to sell what about the porn industry they have been selling sex and exploiting women for damn near a whole century, look at all these magazines that feature nude or half nude women models this society is focused onh sex. ain't nobody worse than white people whwen it comes to exploiting sex please do not blame rap music for encouraging kids to have sex.

Posted by: Sherance at April 4, 2006 2:58 PM

Man say the only person I'm digging on is Sam C. I'm feeling you to the fullest my nigga.But,that lil dumb bitch Regina needs to sit the fuck down you can't blame what we drink and ate when we were younger on the cause of us having sex.Most kids do it cus they hear their friends talk about their sexual experiences so wut you need to do is sit back and wacth this generation a lil bit more.These lil girls are developing because of their hormones not wut they eat.And the fashion industry is just trying to make monet they don't give a damn about wut they make as long as it is cute and making a profit they are chillen.

Posted by: RowdyBroad at April 4, 2006 3:20 PM

Rap doesn't make me wanna have sex. Attractive women make me wanna have sex. How the fuck does rap make people wanna have sex?

This blaming everything on rap has got to stop. That shit is played out.

Do you watch Rap City and think, I wanna go fuck the very next girl I meet?

Posted by: chevy g. hustle at April 4, 2006 3:23 PM

SEX is human nature and at some point young people become interested...

What hip hop and the media in general does, is PRE-EXPOSES immature youth to the sensationalism of having sex. It doesn't teach about abstinence, CHOICES, puberty, protection and the like because it's not designed for that.

Think about it: Despite who you like and don't like, many of the artists in the industry are attractive looking people who we are often SEXUALLY attracted to.

In truth, there is a collective burden for educating young minds on the truths and misconceptions about sex. Parents, some with the best intentions, leave too many children in front of televisions to pass the time away. You can read the miseducation of youth on these blogs, some of the most ridiculously explicit posts SOUNDS LIKE they are coming from young people.

Is hip hop 2 blame? only PARTIALLY...
Each responsible adult individual needs 2 make a CONSCIOUS decision 2 educate our siblings, cousins and the kids next door..
that's how we begin to eradicate IGNORANCE and MISINFORMATION...
young people need alternatives 2 sex...

If U r already trying 2 enlighten some young mind..
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!

Posted by: Dana in Jersey at April 4, 2006 3:25 PM

Is rap music making kids have sex? hell yeah! But is rap music the only thing? Hell no!

There are so many other factors that lead to kids having sex that to single out rap music is like trying to secure a band-aid on 17 inch stab wound. The issue of kids having sex would be no issue if parents were more productive in there roles as parents.

In society, sex sells everything. Its up to parents to encourage and develop understanding in their kids. but what tends to happen more times than not, is that advertisments do all of the rearing. Even as adults, we know that if you live your life off of what comes on the television, you are liable to live any kind of way. Kids are no different.

As adults we need to step up and tell society enough is enough. We will not tolerate nor support this type of encouragement from any type of propaganda any longer. They'll change their lyrics, they'll change their ads, and we'll change our futures yet once again.

Stand up people, our children, neices, cousins and nephews need us!

Posted by: Silkyslim at April 4, 2006 3:26 PM

porn is nasty ass hell and its in magazines and webistes and vidoes BUT at least they are somewhat limited and restricted but the music is not it is everywhere. the videos are on all the time. you change it to mtv or bet and you cant go an hour with out something sexual on tv. so i am gonna have to state again that HIP HOP IS LOOKIN BAD. from the artist to the stylist to the consultants to bob "fuckin" johnson who wont censor that mess and mtv ho's and well dang the music industry is looking bad. i dont even watch BET anymore they have made sex ugly and a game. i am shamed.

Posted by: mo at April 4, 2006 3:28 PM

Good lookin out RowdyBroad.... I'm feelin your post too.

Posted by: Sam C. at April 4, 2006 3:30 PM

Hey clown, They do put stuff in our food. How do you explain being raised on milk and cereal and saturday morning cartoons, to lactose intolerance? How do you explain child diabetes? How do you explain so many little girls getting there cycle in the 4th grade?

All I'm saying is think about it first. If there's a possibility, then its probably already happening.

Posted by: Silkyslim at April 4, 2006 3:34 PM

my comment was for Sherance.

Posted by: mo at April 4, 2006 3:35 PM

HELL YEAH is making these little kids fucking Horndogs !! Them white TV programers dont care whats shown on B.E.T. As long as they make black folk think it's all good to Party and Dance and Bag Ho's in the Club,then there doing there JOB. 90% of southern rap is about NOTHING ! Not trying to Teach the youth or anything. Just Party your life away and Stack chips by selling Crack or pussy !! Yall young mothers out there dont let your kids Black minds get tarnished By the TV. MAKE then read a BOOK !!!! Peace to the God's and the EARTH's cause you was on this PLANET First !!!!!!!

Posted by: mIZE2 at April 4, 2006 3:41 PM

I think that hip hop is not the no. 1 reason more kids or teens for that matter are having sex, but its right up there. I work with kids on a daily basis and I see what kind of effect the music & videos has on them. Don't get me wrong I love hip hop and grew up on it, but right now its like a bad ass kid that has lost its path and needs to be straighted out. There are so many images and messages in pop culture that sell sex to kids that you can't focus on hip hop as the no. 1 reason, but for black kids that is the main medium that they are attracted to. Not to long ago I heard a kid say to this girl "if your nice to me I might let you suck my dick", and the young girl just laughed it off. Now by no means am I an old head (I grduated high school in 93') and out of touch but I do remember a time where if you said something like this to a female young or old you had better duck because she will either try to smack you or throw something at you. I asked the kid about it and he said he heard it in a rap song of which I am familiar with. Both of these kids were no more than 15. I don't know whats worse, the fact that he said this to the young lady or the fact that she just laughed it off! So in this kind of instance, yes the music and images can be blamed. But when you can turn on MTV any time of the day and see white kids getting in on whenever they feel like it, what can you say? So really its a double edged sword, if you go out against these messages your called old, out of touch, or a hater. If you condone it, people ask you what your problem is. I think this is something that goes way beyond the music itself and into the offices of major label heads. If this is all that they are putting out I believe that they should be held accountable. At the same time though, artist should really put a mirror up to not only themselves but also to the hoods and people they are performing too and ask themselves some serious questions. I know some will not care, but for those who do, what are you going to do about it???

Posted by: BigRob at April 4, 2006 3:49 PM

I know alot of people feel that everyone is responsible for their own actions, but I feel that kids are influenced heavily by what they see and hear. Whether it's fashion they mock or the actions of their favorite entertainer. Most kids want to be accepted and they see the artist and what they do and want to mimick that. But that doesn't only go for hip hop music. So I don't think an arguement that says "hip hop music is to blame for kids having sex" is valid.

Posted by: BK_Brock at April 4, 2006 4:03 PM

kids been having sex long before rap music..I think if people could blame Adam eating that peace of fruit on hip hop they would ..and what about church girls why do they like to have sex ?

Posted by: doryfunk at April 4, 2006 4:21 PM

All this shit started when it became acceptable for young kid to have babies. You got immature and irresponsible adult who never had a chance to grow in to a mature and responsible adult, because they had kids at such a young age..... raising kids. What the fuck do we expect to come from that. When you are young you think you know everything and can't nobody tell you shit and these same ignorant kids are having kids. So dumb to their own mistakes that they don't teach, mentor or raise thier kids in a mannor that would prevent such behavior. Of course their are the exceptions, but for the most part kids that have kids at a young age raise kids with no moral or values. A lot of these young parents are still in that mind set of "I don't give a fuck". They don't know any better so how can they teach their kids anything different. Babies having Babies

Now tell ya momma KING KONG said that!

Posted by: KING KONG at April 4, 2006 4:27 PM

RAP MUSIC IS POLLUTING YOUNG BLACK MINDS. DUH! NO NEED TO WASTE MONEY ON A STUDY FOR THAT. STOP SUPPORTING RAPPERS!

Posted by: ITBEEZLIKETHAT at April 4, 2006 4:47 PM

i used to think stuff like was ridiculous. i grew uplistening to"vulgar rap" and before that my parents richard pryor records etc.
and don't forget millie jackson
but to us the shit was funny ,kids today though and even grown m.f's r too easily influenced we had balance today they hear the same 10 songs all day. then the imagaes on t.v. promotes a do what u want ,u only live once attitude.so on a sub-consious level they're gonna act out what they been trained to think is acceptible,without any boundaries.and with parents working hard to provide food and shelter we rely on teachers and t.v. to raise our children,so how many healthy images do they see? and if u think i'm just a conspiracy theorist
i bet 90% of everything you've bought since childhood was because u saw it advertised on t.v. or the jingle was in your head
automakers are sponsoring school field trips to their plants becuase studies show children influence adults when it comes to purchases. so u like what they tell u and u do what what they say is cool like the sexual promiscuity on talk shows etc.(how come white women always say they are comfortable with they're sexuality like i don't know that means 'HO ??!!)

Posted by: DEQUES(pronouncedDEXX!) at April 4, 2006 4:49 PM

HipHop is a microcosim of society so yeah it does partially influence behavior and decision-making as do movies, TV, magazines and everything else that is happening in the world.

Whoever conducted this research not only left out a range of other factors but completely ignored other stimuli besides Hiphop. Q-Tip said it best years ago 'hip hop is not a way of life / it doesn't teach you how to raise kids or treat your wife'

We can't forget that 'responsible adults' at one time used to be impressionable and easily-influenced children. There should be more artists not solely focusing on the acts of violence and sex but also the consequences and of course we as adults need to take more responsibilty and help these kids realize that they shouldn't take everything they hear a rapper say or see what a rapper does on TV as reality.

Posted by: DCI74 at April 4, 2006 5:00 PM

Is Hip Hop Hurting or Helping Race Relations?
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Below are two articles on Race and Hip Hop that folks should read, ponder and discuss... By Toki Wright & Peter S. Scholtes
www.mnartists.org/article...?rid=99333


4 Questions on Race and Hip-Hop in the Twin Cities
By Toki Wright

RACE. I either just got your attention or totally turned you off.

HIP-HOP. (Insert previous statement here.)

BOTH OF THESE are two very touchy topics of talk. I find it hard to have a discussion about one without the other in the Twin Cities. We live in a day and time where hip-hop is being recognized globally in places that weren’t even given a star on the map before. Living in the Twin Cities we are confronted with both race and hip-hop on a daily basis.

For clarity’s sake I should introduce myself. I am a 25-year-old African-American Minneapolis resident. I have been producing hip-hop shows locally for youth since 1998. I’m also a performer and speak often about the racial dynamics of our local scene with students, artists, and the others in the general public. My personal belief in the need for equality is not always agreed with. My answers do not exist to be final and my questions are meant to be open-ended. This being said, I think that the issue of race and hip-hop in the Twin Cities is not an issue that can be summed up in 700-1000 words.

Rather than writing a traditional article, I chose to internally debate four questions that come up often locally. It is my hope that these questions and responses will open up further conversation. While you are reading this I will clean out my inbox for the hate mail.

The racial segregation in hip-hop is a Minnesota thing, right?

Yes: In the Twin Cities there is something called “Minnesota Nice.” What this means is that unlike other places where people are more up-front about disliking you solely because of your race, people will act as if they accept you until you turn your back. This spills over into the hip-hop world.

No: Go to a hip-hop show in any city in the United States. Depending on the night, depending on who’s performing, and depending on who the promoter chooses to promote to, you could have a number of segregated outcomes. The truth is that some promoters just don’t like certain groups of people at their events for numerous reasons. When they are in control they can shape the events however they want.

Is the internet hurting Twin Cities hip-hop race relations?

Yes: The internet provides a space for people from all walks of life to make both blatantly and covertly racist statements without being censored. In the World Wide Web you can also hide your identity while making these statements so that you are not physically dealt with at every rap show for the rest of your life. The internet has become a catalyst for the physical and emotional disconnect between members of multiple backgrounds in our hip-hop community. The written word is difficult to judge because it can often lack that emotion. In turn people can develop whatever opinion they decide.

No: Many necessary conversations have arisen because of the internet’s ability for you to voice your opinion uninterrupted. Though ignorant comments are made, the constructive responses to the comments can be viewed by a wide number of people.

Do only white rappers get good shows?

Yes: It would certainly seem that way if you don’t take into account the amount of mixed-race artists living in the Twin Cities. Many of the “white rappers” have had the opportunity to follow in the footsteps behind a multitude of local performers who have paved the way. Also a lot of white kids don’t feel comfortable in a room full of kids of color just as much as a lot of kids of color don’t feel comfortable in a room full of white people.

No: Many of the “white rappers” get good shows because they have put in the effort and are consistent and persistent. You will see this to be true with many artists of other nationalities that understand their audience, create a workable business model, and stick to their plan. (i.e. Swisha House, Murs, Immortal Technique)

Is the Twin Cities being disrespectful to the “Streets”?

Yes: First there is a direct relationship between people of color and street culture. A lot people frankly do not care whatsoever about what happens in the inner city. When people from the streets, mainly people of color, talk about their issues of being ignored, placed in impoverished neighborhoods, police brutality, the sale of drugs, etc, outsiders may choose to ignore those realities. This is especially relevant because there is a direct benefit to privileged communities for this struggle.

No: Many of issues written above exist in all communities at different levels but there have been countless examples of “Street” culture that have had negative results on the community at large. Also due to media’s thirst for heroes and villains they tend to pimp out the “Street’s” pain for the gain of a good story. So when people of color bring to light negative issues they make themselves an easy target.

If we look at quantity it is rare that you will find a hip-hop event in the Twin Cities that is dominantly non-white. What does this mean? Do people of color no longer care about certain types of hip-hop culture? Do white kids appreciate the culture more than youth of color? Is there a racist overtone in Twin Cities hip-hop? Yes and No. The discussion is left up to you. What’s your version of the truth?
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Tell me something good: 5 Things to Remember About Race and Hip-Hop
By Peter S. Scholtes

1. Race doesn't exist.

This is easy to forget, partly because racial categories are ingrained in our thinking, and reinforced by our language. But I bet if you go back in your mind, you'll remember a time when race didn't exist. You were a kid, just playing with other kids. Race was imposed, just like racism.

The word "race" began being used in most of the senses it has today in the 1500s. It meant "species" (as in "human race"), but also a line of descent. A third, more problematic meaning combined the first two into one, and applied to a group of human beings. The ambiguity there fueled centuries of racist pseudo-science (see Raymond Williams, Key Words, Oxford University Press, 1983).

Today the mapping of the human genome has made the notion of different "races" transparently absurd. As a biologically meaningful concept, it hangs on by the barest of threads: Certain genetic traits appear to cluster along "racial" lines when it comes to disease. Blacks, for example, are more likely than whites to get lung cancer from smoking cigarettes. Like obvious differences of skin color and body type, this is the grain of truth in the lie of race. For doctors, racial categories are shorthand for guessing who your ancestors were, and whether they passed on traits from when populations were still relatively isolated. Blacks of West African descent are more likely to have sickle-cell anemia, for instance. But the sickle-cell gene shows up in Greeks as well, and many blacks of West African descent have no such sickle-cell lineage. Would anyone argue that there's a sickle-cell "race"? If so, you might as well say there's a heart attack race, a fast-sprinter race, an alcoholism race (see "Race Without Racism?" by David J. Rothman and Sheila M. Rothman, The New Republic, November 14, 2005).

Truth is, we're all children of our family tree and random variation. And there's more variation within "races" than between them. On a genetic level, you can have nothing in common with a distant relative, and far more in common with someone of another "race." These categories don't exist except in our minds—and in the culture.

2. Hip-hop was never one thing, and was never "pure."

Hip-hop's blackness is so obvious, and so overwhelming in the early years, that it's easy to overlook the many Latino, Caribbean, Asian, and even white participants who were part of the culture from the start. Hip-hop was never pure. And it would have been a lot more boring if it were.

The very words "hip-hop" tell a version of the story. "Hip" arrived in America in the 1700s from the Wolof hepi ("to see") or hipi ("to open one's eyes"), according to Clarence Major's Juba to Jive: A Dictionary of African-American Slang, and cited by John Leland in Hip: The History (HarperCollins, 2004). "So from the linguistic start," writes Leland,

"hip is a term of enlightenment, cultivated by slaves from the West African nations of Senegal and coastal Gambia. The slaves also brought the Wolof dega ("to understand"), source of the colloquial dig, and jev ("to disparage or talk falsely"), the root of jive. Hip begins, then, as a subversive intelligence that outsiders developed under the eye of insiders. It was one of the tools Africans developed to negotiate an alien landscape, and one of the legacies they contributed to it. The feedback loop of white imitation, co-optation, and homage began immediately."

"Hop," meanwhile, has always been a variation of the verb "jump." It's also longtime slang meaning "to increase the power or energy of something," or "to stimulate with, or as if with, a narcotic"--e.g. "hopped up on dope."

So "hip-hop" literally means "enlightenment energized": cool on speed, style made furious, boogaloo electrified. The term suits a culture that replaced gang warfare with competitive, omnivorous creativity. Hip-hop borrowed from everywhere, so no wonder everyone claims to be an "originator."

According to Afrika Bambaataa, he first heard the phrase "hip-hop" at a Bronx beat party where the MC was chanting, "Hip-hop, you don't stop/That makes your body rock." (see Say It Loud! The Story of Rap Music by K. Maurice Jones, Millbrook Press, 1994; cited by Eileen Southern in The Music of Black Americans, Norton, 1997; Southern doesn't identify which MC coined the name, and the question remains controversial).

Bambaataa began applying the term to the South Bronx street culture he helped create, and it caught on. By 1982, "hip-hop" referred to fashion, graffiti, breakdancing, DJ techniques, and rapping.

"We never called it hip-hop," maintains DXT [formerly D.ST.] in Yes Yes Y'all: The Experience Music Project Oral History of Hip-Hop's First Decade (by Jim Frick and Charlie Ahearn, Da Capo Press, 2002). "We called it b-beat music." ("B" as in "b-boy," "Bronx," "beat," or "breaking.")

In fact, hip-hop had existed without a name for more than a decade, and far beyond the Bronx. In 1967, a black pre-teen in Philadelphia named Don Ameche "CORNBREAD" Stallings initiated the world's first all-city graffiti campaign in order to woo a girl at school, writing "CORNBREAD loves Cynthia" on her desk, along her bus route, and up and down the block where she lived (see "No Rooftop Was Safe," by Katie Haegele, Philadelphia Weekly, Oct. 24, 2001). Soon after, his clique began covering the city in aerosol art, defying gang turf along the way.

Non-gang graffiti quickly spread to Manhattan. CORNBREAD protege TOP CAT "moved to Harlem and brought with him the 'gangster' style of lettering," writes Jeff Chang in Can't Stop Won't Stop (St. Martin's, 2005). By 1970, a Greek-American teen calling himself "Demetrius" had begun spray-painting "TAKI 183" on ice cream trucks in Washington Heights, and soon moved on to subway cars citywide (see "'Taki 183' Spawns Pen Pals," July 21, 1971, New York Times). He credited "JULIO 204" with inspiration (both writers used street numbers in their tags), but otherwise little is known about either artist.* (The 1985 Timothy Hutton film Turk 182! went so far as to give TAKI a fictional, politically rooted backstory.)

Hundreds of imitators followed, and by the mid-'70s, "the second generation of writers was more integrated than the army," writes Chang. "Upper East Side whites apprenticed themselves to Bronx-based Blacks. Brooklyn Puerto Ricans learned from white working-class graf kings from Queens."

The new dances were similarly national in origin. In 1970, a black student at Los Angeles Trade Technical College named Don Campbell began improvising dance moves with friends in the cafeteria during lunch, and came up with a jerky new style he called the "Campbellock," or the "Lock." Performing the dance in the audience at 1972's Wattstax festival, he appeared in the following year's concert film of the same name, and later, more influentially, on TV's Soul Train. By the mid-'70s, Campbell's crew, the Lockers, were making the rounds on The Tonight Show, The Carol Burnett Show, and Saturday Night Live. One televised Lockers appearance inspired Fresno's Boogaloo Sam to form the Electric Boogaloos, and invent "the Pop" (see "Fred 'Rerun' Berry, R.I.P." by Peter S. Scholtes, Complicated Fun, October 23, 2003; see “Complicated Fun, a City Pages blog).**

"B-boying" (later called "breakdancing") was like a horizontal, East Coast parallel to Locking and Popping. It took on the fierceness of the New York youth practicing it, many of whom belonged to gangs such as the Black Spades (black), or the Savage Skulls and Savage Nomads (Puerto Rican). But the gang culture had begun to give way to party crews like that of Jamaican-born Clive "Kool Hercules" Campbell (no relation), who pioneered an American variation on the Jamaican sound system. When Bambaataa, a former Black Spade, began actively recruiting Skulls and Nomads into his Zulu Nation party crew, he effectively did what no community organizer had bothered to try: He desegregated the Bronx River Houses. (As a DJ, Bam was similarly open to every genre--and still is.)

By 1976, Latinos were flowing into what had been a mostly black milieu, and revived the b-boy dances that blacks had begun to abandon. "See, the jams back then were still close to 90 percent African-American, as were most of the earliest b-boys," says Trac 2, quoted by Cristina Veran and cited by Chang. "They were like, 'Yo, breaking is played out' whenever the Hispanics would do it."

But Latinos gave breakdancing new life, and just when rap music was starting. Latinos took part in the music, too: The DJ behind pioneering rapper DJ Hollywood was a young Latino named June Bug. Other barrier-breakers followed.

When hip-hop moved downtown in 1980, gaining a new audience of punks and art radicals, some of these fans joined the ranks of producers, managers, and label owners who helped launch the music into mainstream America. "I'd argue that without white entrepreneurial involvement hip-hop culture wouldn't have survived its first half decade on vinyl," writes Nelson George in Hip Hop America (Viking, 199 . Contrary to myth, George adds, whites bought the records, too.

Of course, some claim this was the end of hip-hop, which brings us to...

3. Gangster rap is not a white conspiracy against blacks.

Nobody actually thinks this, but some talk as if they do. The suspicion underlies legitimate unease about a subculture's passing into the magnifying realm of commerce. When the Memphis rap crew Three 6 Mafia recently took the Academy Award for "It's Hard Out There For a Pimp," performing the song on Oscar night, some critics even used the metaphor of minstrelsy--as if white America had made puppets of these black artists.

The myth of white control usually ignores gangster rap before it became massively popular. So we can skip Philadelphia's Jesse "Schoolly D" Weaver (the Parkside Killers member who recorded a cold-blooded single in 1985, "P.S.K. - What Does It Mean?," as an ode to his gang). Skip Ice-T, Boogie Down Productions, and even the first album by N.W.A. ("Niggas with Attitude"--hard to remember the shock of that name now). Instead, start with Ice Cube's departure from N.W.A., and the group's subsequent album without him.

The Cube-free N.W.A. was the first hardcore rap record to hit No. 1. The same year, Cube's "No Vaseline" needled his old crew-mates about their manager, Jerry Heller: "Get rid of that devil real simple, put a bullet in his temple/'Cause you can't be the Nigga 4 Life crew/With a white Jew telling you what to do." By the time N.W.A.'s Dr. Dre released his blockbuster followup, The Chronic, other '80s heads seemed ready to believe that the new mass audience was a corporate brainchild.

"The record industry created gangster rap," said Chicago MC/graffiti writer Super LP Raven in the seminal 1994 book by graffiti artist William "UPSKI" Wimsatt, Bomb the Suburbs (The Subway and Elevated Press). B-boy Reginald Jolley expanded on the point elsewhere in the book: "The first formula for commercial rap was smiling and acting innocent--Young MC, Hammer, etc. Now the formula is taking the happy beats--Dre's production which is not hip-hop at all--and to put it with the savage lyrics."

But Jolley's objection was social, not just aesthetic. "Once gangsta rap came out, it made all the gangbangers like rap," he said. "They used to dis us. They used to call it breakdancing music. Gangsta rap crossed the thugs into it."

In truth, it wasn't the expanded white audience for rap that bothered many old-schoolers, but the expanded black one. "Hiphop as extremist and repugnant as N.W.A.'s or 50 [Cent]'s was a benevolent trickster god's way of pinching us to make sure we were still awake," wrote Greg Tate in the Village Voice last year. "Now it's one more trick of the devil, his way of keeping us compliant, complacent, and comatose. If the creators of The Matrix had read Ralph Ellison they wouldn't have romanticized Black people as too worldly to fall for a virtual reality" (see "Married to the Hook: The corporations murdered hiphop and all I got was this lousy G-Unit throwback jersey" by Greg Tate, Village Voice, March 11, 2005).

The fact is that gangs have always shaped hip-hop. But as gangs changed in the '80s, hip-hop changed with them. By the mid-'90s, after crack cocaine's sweep through the inner cities, many urban fans in the Deep South, West, and Midwest were hungry for "reality"--however virtual.

A new audience made folk heroes not only of Biggie Smalls and Tupac, but of otherwise widely obscure fallen "soldiers" such as Seagram Miller in Oakland (on Houston's Rap-A-Lot label, operated by Scarface) and Soulja Slim in New Orleans (on Louisiana's No Limit, operated by Master P). "Only Juvenile and Mystikal were in the same league, and neither owned the streets like Slim," writes Nik Cohn in Life & Death & New Orleans Rap (Knopf, 2005). "His was the voice of black New Orleans, in all its ugliness and beauty, its senseless slaughter, its moments of battered grace. He personified the split that lay at the city's heart--fierce joy in being alive, compulsive embrace of death."

Today, when a hip-hop fan dismisses gangsta as "inauthentic," ask him if he isn't just inventing an excuse to avoid venturing beyond his comfort zone and into the kinds of neighborhoods where hip-hop was invented in the first place. Ask him if, by identifying the mass (white) audience of the music as the problem, he isn't using someone else's supposed racism to let himself off the hook for his own fear.

Hip-hop can't change the world.

But you can. And hip-hop can change you.

When people talk about "hip-hop activists," they usually mean activists who like hip-hop. But the important half of that equation is the political one. Simply put, Public Enemy does music. The Black Panthers did breakfast programs. Spike Lee does films. The Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) did voter registration. Kanye West does art. ACORN does politics. Not that hip-hoppers aren't good activists: Afrika Bambaataa was a community organizer who threw parties. But he did the work, not hip-hop. William "UPSKI" Wimsatt was a youth advocate who founded the League of Pissed-Off Voters. He did the work, not hip-hop.

How do you change the world? You organize.

And if you wait for hip-hop or anything else to inspire you, you're putting the cart before the horse.

Waiting for hip-hop to change the world is a little like waiting for "leaders" to change the world. Stop waiting. Any good changes you can name in the culture, in the economy, or in the body politic came about as a result of ordinary people, not politicians. Today we have better coffee and food than we did a generation ago, not because of any law passed by Congress, but thanks to "hippies, organic farmers, farmers' markets and community supported agricultural networks" (see Dime's Worth of Difference: Beyond the Lesser of Two Evils by Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair, AK Press, 2004).

Today music is funkier because of hip-hop. Americans are more honest about race because of hip-hop. Fill in your own good influences here. But these are also a delayed legacy of '60s and '70s activism, of people's movements that won concrete goals, pressured new legislation, shook up the economic establishment. The general shift between the years of Malcolm X the man (in 1964) and Malcolm X the movie (in 1993) was from voter registration to electoral campaigns, grassroots politics to culture and commerce, substantial revolution to the symbolic kind.

"[Spike] Lee's strongest images suggest the immutability of white racism... rather than the possibility of overcoming it," writes historian Clayborne Carson of Malcolm X in Past Imperfect: History According to the Movies (Owl, 1996). "His film's Malcolm ends his life resigned to his fate rather than displaying confidence in his hard-won political understanding. The film's Malcolm becomes, like the filmmaker himself, a social critic rather than a political insurgent."

Rap's "conscious" era of political theater in the late-'80s echoed an earlier era of actual politics, but hit the universities harder than the streets. Out on the corners, the forces changing society from the pavement up were gangs, and the sale and distribution of crack cocaine. If '60s rebels created Chuck D's worldview, '80s crack birthed today's drug rapper.

"Even more than viciousness and misogyny," writes Nik Cohn,

"what made gangsta so troubling was its absolute absence of hope. Beneath the cartoon overkill, it spoke of a fundamental shift in how young black men saw the world. Years earlier, in the South Bronx and Bed-Stuy and Harlem, I'd listened while B-boys talked. Many were angry and frustrated, none defeated. Even on the meanest streets, there was a feeling of possibilities. The Civil Rights years were still the recent past; progress was, if not guaranteed, at least in the cards. There were things worth believing in and fighting for.

"Already that times seemed long lost. When I listened to street kids, I heard paralysis; a dull weight of futility. If I asked how they saw their futures, they looked at me as if I was babbling. What futures?...

"Gangsta spoke to a death of the heart. At least in the beginning, it wasn't a music for African-Americans--the black people who had managed to cross over into the mainstream, with their college degrees and suburban homes, their standarized American speech--but for Niggaz. The permanently jobless, the semiliterate, the @#%$, who grew up without fathers, or with fathers in jail, or, perhaps most pernicious, with father stuck in menial jobs, @#%$ work for @#%$ wages. If they tried to study in school, they were called faggots. If they worked, they got minimum wage, if that. And every day they saw drug lords cruise by in luxury cars, bodyguards in tow, fine women all over them."

The hip-hop generation has plenty of leaders. Maybe what we need is more organizers.

We have leaders in business, music, church, and elected office. What we lack is a collective memory of what political organization means. "The basic difference between the leader and the organizer," wrote Saul D. Alinsky in 1972, is that the leader "wants power himself. The organizer finds his goal in creation of power for others to use" (Rules For Radicals, Vintage Books).

"Effective organizing in 1960s Mississippi meant an organizer had to utilize the everyday issue of the community," writes Robert P. Moses, a former SNCC activist who helped black sharecroppers destroy segregation in the '60s. "Small meetings and workshops became the spaces within the Black community where people could stand up and speak, or in groups outline their concerns. In them, folks were feeling themselves out, learning how to use words to articulate what they wanted and needed. In these meetings, they were taking the first step toward gaining control over their lives... This important dimension of the movement has been almost completely lost in the imagery of... dynamic individual leaders" (see Radical Equations: Civil Rights from Mississippi to the Algebra Project, Beacon Press, 2001).

The issues addressed by these men and women are still with us--collapsing schools, youth violence, war, poverty, racist oppression, and the abandonment of America's most vulnerable (for example, in Soulja Slim's New Orleans). Hip-hop won't defeat these evils any more than gospel music defeated Jim Crow. But it can provide a place to talk about them. You provide the rest.


*In 2000, TAKI 183 resurfaced with a phone call to the New York Times. "The name-signer who launched a thousand felt-tipped pens would say only that his real first name is Demetrius, that he lives in 'lower Westchester' and that he works with cars--again, no details," wrote James Barron, quoting TAKI: "'I'm a family man; I'm a mainstream guy... Sometimes I see a wall and say, it would be nice there. I guess I'm a dangerous guy to carry around a marker, still. But that's something you do when you're 16. It's not something you make a career out of.'" (See "Off the Train, Onto the Block; Auction House to Put Vintage Graffiti on Sale" by James Barron, New York Times, June 10, 2000.) Inexplicably, TAKI's Wikipedia entry states: "his tag was short for Panayiotakis, the diminutive of Panayiotis" (see the Wikipedia entry for TAKI). So is there a Demetrius Panayiotis out there somewhere with an internet connection?

JULIO 204 (who was reportedly Puerto Rican and a member of the Savage Skulls) might also be around. At a 2005 New York graffiti celebration in Chelsea, an aerosol artist painting "COPE" was asked by a photographer to give his real name. "Julio 204," was the grumbled response, as reported by Anthony Ramirez. The graf writer turned back to his work: "'That guy wanted me to be a model,'' he said to no one in particular. ''I ain't no poser'' (see "That Sweet Smell of Youth, Hissing From a Spray Can" by Anthony Ramirez, New York Times, August 25, 2005).

**Every member of the Lockers turned out to be influential in his or her own way: Group choreographer Toni Basil championed L.A. punk and was a one-hit wonder with "Mickey"; Adolfo "Shabadoo" [or "Shabba Doo"] Quinones became Ozone in the epochal hip-hop films “Breakin'” and “Breakin' 2 - Electric Boogaloo”; Deney Terrio hosted and choreographed TV's original “Dance Fever”, and taught John Travolta his moves in “Saturday Night Fever”; and Fred "Rerun" Berry brought the Lockers' style to a wider audience on TV's “What's Happening”.
Related Links

Rap Sessions: Race and Hip-Hop
The Walker Art Center web site for more information.
Hip-Hop and Race Forum
Respond and give your own views on Hip-Hop and Race here.
D.U. Nation
Underground Hip-Hop.

Author Bio
Toki Wright and Peter Scholtes
Toki Wright and Peter Scholtes are thinkers on music and culture.

Toki Wright, producer, organizer, and musician, and Peter Scholtes, music writer, think about hip-hop--which, based in black culture, has been a delightfully complicated meeting ground for a score of cultures and subcultures.

Minneapolis-based Toki Wright has been involved in worldwide connection as a community organizer (www.yothemovement.org/ ), emcee (The C.O.R.E./APHRILL), freelance writer, volunteer, creative writing/performance teacher, and poet. His work has been featured on NBC, MTV, WB, and in Independent Film. He can be reached at www.tokiwright.com or www.myspace.com/tokiwrightmusic

Peter S. Scholtes writes about music and culture for City Pages, a weekly newspaper of Minneapolis/St. Paul. His articles have appeared in Spin, Vibe, XXL, and Blender. He has lived in seven American cities, including New Orleans, and has loved rap music for 20 years. To read his hip-hop writing, visit complicatedfun.com/hiphoparticles.


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Posted by: New Justice at April 4, 2006 5:24 PM

African-American Mother with Children flag Confederate.

http://www.perspectives.com/forums/forum4/19546.html

Posted by: New Justice at April 4, 2006 5:37 PM

I'm all about enlightening but damn, that's a REEAALLLLLY LOONNNNNNNNG post. you could have posted the link homie. That's all I'm saying.

Posted by: Naj at April 4, 2006 5:52 PM

Hip-Hop does not make you have sex. SOME of the lyrics and visuals seem to justify having sex. A hard dick and a willing vagina,time and oppourtunity ALLOW you to have sex. Your CHARACTER represents how you go about it.

Posted by: skdamc at April 4, 2006 6:38 PM

It all starts wit the parents....we gotta do better raising our kids to be thinkers. Alot of our dads werent around so its harder for single moms to do it alone, leaving TV to pick up the slack because its all some kids have.

Posted by: rizzop2003 at April 4, 2006 7:24 PM

shortyfolks nigga dont call me out like that u faggot, i dont affiliate with homo's, so chill before i get Busta on you

Posted by: hoodlum at April 4, 2006 7:26 PM

Those scandalous hoes seduce boys into having sex. ie: shorty says: "wanna see me get low?" Dude says: "to the window or the walls?" shorty says: "Till the cum drop down ur balls!!!"

Posted by: NYStateOfMind at April 4, 2006 7:47 PM

I have to agree with Chevy G. But, what is Reality talking about that hip hop causes us to have sex and be violent. Have you ever listened to a song and think, damn I am bout to go and shoot this kid? Or bout to do something violent?

Posted by: tawwsha at April 4, 2006 8:44 PM

Just to talk about it makes me wanna fuck

Posted by: ONE at April 4, 2006 9:18 PM

GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!!!!!

Teens have been having sex since the beginning of fucking time. Teen sex only became an issue in the fucking '80s for political reasons - I guess people got embarressed by the '70s. Our grandparents and great grandparents and everyone before them were not just having sex - they were fucking married at 16-17 - or before!

When it comes to sex it seems like we as a society are going backwards. Teens have always had sex and always will - don't blame it on hip-hop please! I wasn't fucking hoes as a teen because of no fucking video or song - I just wanted some pussy! Give me a fucking break with this over analysis shit!

Posted by: Raw Dawg at April 4, 2006 11:25 PM

It aint the music thats makin young niggas and bitches fuck, its the hormones and the body functions of the male and female. I could go on, but this is a hip-hop website, not a science one.

Posted by: 5 year old pimp at April 5, 2006 12:13 AM

I know parents are where the disciplne starts, but the truth is alot of parents aren't doing their job, and these kids are easily influenced. How many times have you heard a young kid singing a song that you know they should'nt know nothing about, and if their parents are their then they act like they are proud of it. Parent have responsibilities and so does these rappers. I know it's freedom of speech but you also have to take responsibility for what you say. If the President says that he hates niggers, people won't like it he has the right to say it, but he's gonna have to face the consequences of what he said. Same as these rappers, they act like they don't have a responsibility to these young kids who they aim their music towards. They don't care as long as they get rich. It's like black exploitation, they are selling out our race to get rich.

Posted by: gorrillamack at April 5, 2006 9:05 AM

DONT YOU just hate motherfuckers who stick ridiculously long articles in comments sections? Losers...

As for hip-hop, listening to 50 makes me go a big rubbery one...

Posted by: The Kid at April 5, 2006 9:40 AM

"Biggie, R Kelly - I'm fuckin you tonight"

yeah, when I hear Kells say "B.I.G., bring that ass to me" it really turns me on. NOT!

Posted by: 9 year old at April 5, 2006 9:44 AM

myspace.com/wesfif

Posted by: colin at April 5, 2006 10:24 AM

I understand that all music has some form of influence. If it didn't we wouldn't be listening to it. That's not the only thing that makes us have sex. Hell it doesn't make us do anything that we don't wanna do Hell I'm 18 and I'm still a virgin and I've been listneing to hip hop all of my life.

Posted by: J_mami at April 5, 2006 10:48 AM

I believe it does have an influence on younger people, because they hear it being talked about or portrayed so much, it starts having a brainwashing effect on kids. Kids keep up with trends and whats the hottest thing out right now. Even though hiphop or even R&B has an influence on this way of thinking, its not to blame for what is going on with kids right now. Besides, like some of you said there are alot of other things that promote sex.
Ultimately it is up to the adults in the childs life to teach them and talk to them about sex, etc. To the writer of this blogg, you give marcus houston to much credit.

Posted by: JASMINE at April 5, 2006 11:09 AM

tell that *new justice* to take his whackass sermon to somewhere else damnit..i'm here to get entertained basically so keep it coming y'all i respect yall ideas and views aii...

basically i think a lot of things make people wanna have sex though ..take yourself back on the memory lane aii...when was the first time you had sex and what do u basically think caused it apart from your hormones and shit...i bet 95 percent of people wont basically link their sex experience to rap mayne..i had mine years ago after listening to micheal bolton with a girl and i had to touch her there....

Posted by: yaaa at April 5, 2006 11:21 AM

Anyone stupid enough to be influenced by any form of music to actually go out and have sex, when you're supposedly not ready and able, shoulnd't LEGALLY be allowed to listen to music..... Or vote... or drive an automobile.... or bear children or firearms.... or run big or small businesses...

Posted by: THE TRUTH at April 5, 2006 12:13 PM

something will always have an influence on children. It's the parent's job to make sure they make the right choice.

Posted by: itdoesntmatterwhatmynameis at April 5, 2006 12:34 PM

Sam C. you are a damn fool, LMAO

Posted by: Dig at April 5, 2006 2:55 PM

Naj - i know, right! WTF? LOL

Posted by: Dig at April 5, 2006 3:08 PM

Yes Hip Hop makes kids (and grown folks) FUCK!! But it ain't just hip hop. Hip hop is about 35 to 40 years old so in the scope of things we are infants. We learn from the bigger model which is America's mainstream. And America's mainstream has been selling sex for years. Wayyy b4 hip hop was even birthed.

The problem is, we always do shit big. A white man buy a Cadilac and he straight. A brotha buy a Caddy and he GOT to pimp that bitch out one way or the other. Rims, Vougues, Rag, Grill, something. So in turn we are going to do the "sex sells" thing much bigger than they have all these years. Niggas is greedy, (which by the way is also the American way) and don't give a fuck about the next mans kids as long as they can make some money off of them.

The lyrical content in Hip Hop and R&B has turned into strictly GROWN FOLKS MUSIC, but it's still targeted at the kids. "Each one Teach one" is dead, now it's more like "Each One better raise they own damn kids".

Posted by: Animal Nstinx at April 5, 2006 4:37 PM

hiphop makes u have sex...so what ??? even jazz makes u wanna have sex, music makes u do many things....thats why its music....tell the media to stop bitching.... tell parents to raise they kids better and we wont have this problem. i grew up on eddie murphy rambo, adult films and mtv in the late 80's and im straight...so stop protestin and criticizing and start whooping your kids

black wall street for lizzife

Posted by: Debo_Muhammed at April 5, 2006 4:38 PM

Raw Dog,
I think you right but the Government didn't invent Aids and HIV until the 80's, so it's more important now to school these fuckas or to curtail there curiosity somehow.

When I was 13 and started getting curious about fucking that's all it was was curiosity. I'm listening to shit like EPMD, who's music had nothing to do with fuckin (except Mary Jane). When I turned 14 and was ready to fuck I had to go at it blind. Now if I was 13 or 14 today, I already know what to do. All shorties gotta do is TIVO BET's Uncut, or just turn on 106 and Park to learn how to fuck.

Growing up in High School if anybody found out you ate some pussy, you was the nastiest, dirtiest MF that walked. Same with girls, if we found out a chick was suckin dick she was mud. (good for head but nothing else). Nowadays they walking round talking bout "I was gettin some Head, gettin - gettin some head". Not cool.

Posted by: The God Logik at April 5, 2006 4:52 PM

Be on the lookout for the new
"Dorchester Univercity" album
from I.W.

The best rap group in the Bean
Hands down.

Check out the single "Glamorous"
at myspace.com/essexiw

Posted by: Essex at April 5, 2006 4:53 PM

Yeah.. I know Dig. I'm straight foolish. I blame the weed.

I blame hip hop for my weed habit though.

Posted by: Sam C. at April 5, 2006 6:27 PM

yes it does


DONE.ANSWERED.OVER!

Posted by: Shaft at April 5, 2006 7:27 PM

rap does have sexual lyrics and the videos arent any better, i mean its sad, but at the same time, they should look at things more pervasive like media, advertisements, sex on cable after 10pm. Just Want to Blame A Nigger for everything.

Posted by: MarcusGarvey at April 5, 2006 7:32 PM

The only time a rap song makes me horny is when Trina singing it.

Posted by: King at April 5, 2006 8:28 PM

Black teenage Nazi Rapper Or Hip hop

Posted by: New Justice at April 5, 2006 9:39 PM

G-UNIT IS GOOD FOR THE KIDS !!!!

Posted by: Shakeem at April 5, 2006 10:08 PM

Does hip hop make you have sex? LOL.

Come on now. People have been trying to place blame on not only hip-hop, but just about every other form of music that young people tend to like.

- they said the same thing about 50s rock and roll, when artists like Chuck Berry, Little Richard, and Jerry Lee Lewis were doing their thing.

- they said the same thing about Elvis, when he used to gyrate his hips on stage. It was said that his gyrations would send teenage females into a sexual frenzy.

- they said the same thing about the music of the 60s, and it's "free love" messages

- they said the same thing about disco and punk rock in the 70s

- they said the same thing about pop artists like Madonna, Prince and Michael Jackson in the 80s.

- they also said the same thing about the heavy metal bands in the 80s like Van Halen, Poison, Guns N Roses, etc

- they said the same thing about R&B in the 90s, when it was the boy band groups like Jodeci, H-Town, and Silk that had sexually suggestive lyrics in their songs

- and now, they want to say the same thing about hip-hop today.


LOL . . but the fact that they've overlooked over the years, is that young people have ALWAYS BEEN NATURALLY HORNY, NO MATTER WHAT THE TIME, THE ERA, OR WHAT MUSIC THE KIDS LIKED.

The only thing that has changed today, is that kids have so many media outlets ( radio, TV, internet ), that they learn about sex earlier than ever.

The people that want to suggest that raunchy lyrics will cause kids to have sex at an earlier age, are the same people that would want you to believe that eating 3 apples a day can reduce your risk of getting cancer.

Nevermind that those studies NEVER take into account other factors outside of eating apples that may cause you to get cancer. All they concentrate on, is the eating of the apples. So a simple mo-fo will believe that if he/she ate 3 apples a day, that they would be all good . . even if they smoked 5 packs of cigaretts a day.

Posted by: finisher at April 5, 2006 11:28 PM

u really finished it finisher ....real talk....

Posted by: yaaa at April 6, 2006 12:21 AM

the videos are a bit much now a days....especially in the day time when little kids are home from school...the videos are to explicit at certain times in the day...

i agree with my nigga....why is Baby Phat making skin tight jeans in size 4T????????

Posted by: Prophetic Poet at April 6, 2006 1:34 AM

hell yeah them videos make you what to have sex. I mean be for real you know you watch uncut or something ya thang be hard as hell so that just proves my point.

Posted by: Billy Ocean at April 6, 2006 7:15 AM

Wordz have power and create Univerzez-Hip Hop promotez evil and Good..."Az a man thinkz so iz he" so whatever it iz U R putting into Ur soul through any of Ur senzez makez da person who U R..Dont blame da media blame da artizt who make da art da media playz...

YHWH Blezz
Royal Elite
Da Kingz in da building!
http://www.myspace.com/faminedadon

Posted by: Royal Elite at April 6, 2006 9:25 AM

Damn for real. What about Houston's "Sex With You" video. What are kids supposed to think when they hear that?

Posted by: Reggie at April 6, 2006 11:43 AM

just heard that bloodmoney album.

i know i promote it so much because they pay me but it is garbage.

50 ur fallin off.

Yayo flopped, Olivia flopped before she could come out. Now Mobb Deep will flop. keep pushing that shit back until you get some real shit on it.

ggggunit

Posted by: shakeem at April 6, 2006 1:05 PM

I don't know, I think people was fucking along time before rap music came along. But ever since I heard "I'm in love with a stripper" I been wantin to fuck a stripper, again.

Posted by: CeeJay at April 6, 2006 7:34 PM

Regina,

You are absolutely correct. My friends and I say that all the time. Let kids be kids. Why does a 2 yr old need a fifty dollar pair of jeans on.
Kids today grow up to quick. Parents need to monitor what their kids watch and who they hang around.

I am 22 and I have a 2 yr, and I do not let her go anywhere without me. She does not spend the night with just anyone. I am responsible for everything that she does and what happens to her. So we as parents need to be aggressive with monitoring our kids.

I have a cousin that could repeat a rap song 3yrs old, but did not know his a b c's I blame the parents.

So I do not blame TV or rappers, adults need to take control of the their house.

Posted by: sexycg from GA at April 6, 2006 8:02 PM

I WANNA FUCK THA SHIT OUTTA BUFFY.
YEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
FUCK HER RIGHT IN THAT ASS.

Posted by: Devin at April 6, 2006 8:42 PM

YO HOODLUM U AN IDIOT..PANO CITY 4 LIZZZZIIIIIFFFFFEEEEEEEEEEE!!!WHAT UP DFM!!! YOU MY NIGGA G

Posted by: MAC1 at April 6, 2006 9:26 PM

kids have sex because when you turn 11
ya dick gets hard I aint get laid tell
I was 16 up untill then I was scared &
fingerbangin tha next door neigbors lil
daughter now im 23 & sex is like a fore-
man grill it takes 5 or 10 minutes &
afterwards you want a burrito!!!

Posted by: 100% at April 6, 2006 11:11 PM

I think that's ridiculous. Hormones, ass, and titties make teenagers want to have sex...Maybe I should clarify that hormones, ass, and titties make teenage boys and some girls want to have sex. It has always been that way. Historically, it seems, teenagers have always had sex at an early age in large numbers.

Posted by: fa real at April 7, 2006 9:44 AM

well...i think...100%....that CERTAIN SONGS make young people have sex...

im in my last year at high school and let me put yall up to something...TEENS WANT SEX WHEN THEY HEAR SOME SONGS

correct me if im wrong, but every teen in highschool has the pretty ricky album...that song playhouse had everybody sexin like rabbits...

naked by MK had the girls all over their man....

rock-a-by by black buttafly ...

best friend...50 cent

sex in the kitchen ...r kelly

and the list goes on and on

Posted by: Thick at April 7, 2006 10:39 AM

Allright let me clarify I don't think
music in anyway makes dudes wanna fuck
I mean once you hit sexual maturity you
wanna fuck period at least if you a guy
girls are a lil different I do know that
some songs make girls horny but music
don't make niggas horny cause they are
allready horny 24/7 365!!!

Tha fact that people think rap music
makes people wanna fuck is rediculous
they allready wanna fuck a nigga aint
gone hear a song & go do whats in tha
song unless he is blessed with game from
dolemite himself rap music don't make
you know more horny then that fat ass
walkin down tha street!!!

I think girls get turned on by music much more then niggas do!!!

THIS A IGNANT ASS BLOG ANYWAY

Posted by: 100% at April 7, 2006 1:47 PM

Yeah hiphop makes you wanna have sex why the fuck B.E.T is playing Uncut. It makes teenage boys stay up until 3:00 watching that bull crap like DAT.Also when kids hit puburty they turn HORNY AND WANT TO FUCK. And I think it is wrong that parents let boys have like a 10:00 curfew and boyz gotta be home at 12:00. They think girls get pregnant and boyz dont. That shit is right but it takes two people to fuck. Two pussies can't rub. The boyz is the ones fuckin girls makin them pregnant. Study shows dat most girls have sex wit a non virgin boy. And the girls think that is the person who is going to spend eternity (3.14 22/7 pie is equavalient to eternity)with dem. That shit is wrong. All dem boyz/girls who is reading dis try abstinence. DON'T HAVE SEX UNTIL YOU ARE MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOME SONG DAT MIGHT MAKE YOU DO IT
MK'S Sex wit you/Naked
R. Kelly's slow wind
Pretty Ricky Grind Wit Me/Nothin buta numbe
Shawana's I was gettin some
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Posted by: 9th w/d New Orleans Nigga at April 7, 2006 6:37 PM

I was suppose to say girls have like a 10:00 curfew, and boyz have like a 12:00 curfew. Also the message that was suppose to go in the dots is DONT HAVE SEX O.K CHILDREN AND ADULTS UNTIL MARRIAGE.

Posted by: 9th w/d New Orleans Nigga at April 7, 2006 6:41 PM

i just think that kids need 2 relize that just cuz they here dosn't mean they have 2 do it. its adults singing those songs and its 4 a reason!

Posted by: k_lo at April 8, 2006 2:09 PM

i think its just stupid. its the kids choice to have sex. its their choice and they should take the responsibility. i should know, im a black teen. im just sick of rap today. its not what it use to be. it doesnt have soul anymore...i dont care about your f-ing 40's on the elbows, i dont want to hear what you would do to a "hoe" if she doesnt give it up. i dont care. i just cant believe black ppl tosay...giving into the steriotype...but whatever thats their choice too. but i choose not to have sex untill i married. i choose that b/c i dont want to be another streiotype. also you cant blame the rappers, they are just trying to make money in a world thats all about sex and no morals. you cant blame BET either... i love that show and i like that sometimes they have important things on there that black ppl today should see...

one more thing...can us black ppl please stop saying the word nigga? its f-ing annoying...

much love to all
foxxy

Posted by: foxxyro at April 10, 2006 2:26 PM

I dont know if rap music makes kids have sex?
I do know that everybody should check out:

www.myspace.com/dsrdrazticspotrushaz

Posted by: factah at April 10, 2006 8:46 PM

Yes, of course Hip-Hop forces kids to have sex.

Hip-Hop jumped out of the TV/Radio, put a gun to my head and MADE me have sex at age 12. It sure as hell wasn't the accelerated rate of maturation, caused, most likely, by all the chemicals and artificial what-have-you's in all our food.
That's just silly.

Posted by: Dante Rien at April 11, 2006 3:03 AM

Girls with big asses, big tits, and can suck a mean dick makes us want to have sex.

Posted by: Joe at April 11, 2006 3:29 PM

Bullshit!!!! Rap music makes people feel different all over and whoever came up with this bogis shit obvisly isn't a teenager. I think that they should shut the fuck up!

Posted by: Ashley Thompson at April 11, 2006 6:09 PM

I'm gonna be HONEST, since all other black folks wanna was decline when they get catch in a hot seat. YES, when i was younger seeing all those greased up, big-bootful black women on the rap video made be wanna get some. Its inspiring to have sex. I admit, i only watch rap video just to see my women shake they ass in video. All those greased up bodies. C'mon now, BLACK PEOPLE be real, just for a minute. remeber all them rap song about the opposite sex when you were young. you can't even lie, when 3-6 Mafia came out with: "Suck on my nob lik corn on the Cob"<--------that made a nigga wanna find a broad. What about the sex skits on the CDs. Remeber on Biggie CD, when he's fuckin ole girl, and the bed breaks. They why she was maoning made a nigga horny. You damn right rap music makes you wanna have sex, because 90% of rap music is what? Drugs, Guns,Clothes and Hoes

Posted by: J-Jizzle at April 11, 2006 7:55 PM

I love you and we give you are love Now

Posted by: Robin D. Rolle at April 11, 2006 9:02 PM

THATS THE MOST FUCKED UP THING I´VE EVER HEARD!

PROBABLY THE WHITE PEOPLE.

TRYING EVERYTHING JUST TO GET THE RAP OUT OF THE STREET

Matti-) from sweden!

Posted by: matti-) from sweden-) at April 12, 2006 3:19 PM

shit,
music does make you think about it more, but its other kids that talk about how many people they fucked that really make you do it.

Posted by: CC at April 12, 2006 10:26 PM

how the hell does rap make u wanna have sex that is the equavilent of sayin grand theft auto games make you wanna kill somebody THAT IS BULLSHIT rap does not make u wanna fuck it all comes down to personal descision and will i agree wit finisher raw dawg and 5 year old pimp if u go around fuckin every pretty gurl u see and get one pregnant or catch some disaese or shit that is YO FUCKING FAULT NOT RAP

Posted by: Aurion Kratos at April 13, 2006 5:19 PM

Man fuck mainstream hip-hop. Or more like hip-"pop" there is no talent base in mainstream music. Underground hip-hop is where it is. Fuck being humble, wearing tons of jewelry, hoes and sluts, etc. Good Charlotte is a prime example of wasted talent for a "supposed" punk band. Give me a break.

Posted by: _Reminisce_ at April 13, 2006 9:37 PM

this is so retarded who gives a shit make it legal for kids 2 buy cndoms and problem solved

Posted by: chadd at April 13, 2006 10:19 PM

I dont understand why people blame other people for their actions. "Rap influencing young kids to have sex?" is the last thing people should be questioning and blaming. Kids having kids. What about their mutha fukin parents? If their parents taught them morals and safety then we would be having this problem. Dont blame someone for your own problems.

Posted by: vickey at April 14, 2006 12:23 AM

if teenagers want 2 hav sex that is ther choice. no 1 is encouraging them 2 do it. teenagers could also be raped b4 the age of 16 and that is not ther fault but rap muziccoesnt do that. i ama huge fan of rap muzic and am still a virgin.there is no problem w/rap muzic

Posted by: jenelle at April 14, 2006 3:02 PM

yo fuckers....Rap music isnt the only shit that sells sex OR drugs, i hear all this shit about sex and drugs being advertised with todays generations music....check out Bob Dyllans-Everyone must get stoned song. Or Eric Claptons-Cocaine song he sings about doing lines of coke..I listen to all this fuckin type of music....MUSIC IS FUCKING MUSIC....I wanna have sex if i see my Beautiful girlfriend..Not for hearing "my humps" music has never made me wanna go out and get blitzed....i get blitzed cuz im a stoner. This shit i been hearin is all fukked up. anywayz gotta bounce y'all PEACE

Posted by: bob at April 15, 2006 2:51 PM

The name that I'm holding is my cousins name. My cousins daughter is thinking about it. That's some bull shit though. MLK 4 Nigga


T-Angels
Mighty Leauges

Posted by: Tragedy Styles at April 16, 2006 9:12 AM

i wanna say this in the most understandable way possible without sounding like im preaching. but god is comin back. Believe me when i say that he could come any day now. and all this sex and violence is why he is coming back. he will come back when the world starts getting worse and worse. but it also says in the bible that we can turn it all around.ALL around to where it seems good. Now i ask, are yall ready to burn in hell from listening to this seductive sh*t or are yall going ta live how you possed to. make da right choice cause you know who is watchin

Posted by: tired of this earth at April 17, 2006 1:00 AM

what the f*** you saying rap music does not make kids have sex you bitch

Posted by: n.r. at April 17, 2006 9:34 AM

Sam C i got much love 4 wat u said but rap doesnt make you wanna have sex. maybe the rap videos but not the songs. like Ragina said its the clothes the tight jeans so u can see the girls "laffy taffy". thats wat makes teens wanna have sex. shout out to everyone in chi-town, all my homies in the jefferson park area. u know who u are. R.I.P Proof, Bugz, Biggie, Pac we love u eternally!!!

Posted by: krazyk-4-eva at April 17, 2006 8:12 PM

rap music make me horny so horny for sex ooooooo yea sex!

Posted by: paul at April 18, 2006 12:14 PM

east london brapppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

Posted by: paul at April 18, 2006 12:15 PM

i also think that rap has an influence on young people. but whoever that was that was that wass talking about the milk and all that needs to shut up and read a book.

Posted by: Danielle at April 18, 2006 1:38 PM

hip hop is just music. but if the person who is rapping has no respect for women or themselves. then they are a bad role modle for children. this is unfortunatly what we have a lot of today. children with no dads and there only role modle being emmine who cuses his own mother or 50 cent who has done nothing for people like him who grew up like himself.

Posted by: philip at April 18, 2006 1:50 PM

here the thing rap has its bad points and its good but when it cames to it, it is not the music but the weak minded kids that are taking it to heart becaus if that study were right I woude allredy have a baby and a nother on the way so if you A WEAK MINDED FULL DON'T LISTIN TO RAP!

Posted by: ger at April 18, 2006 4:55 PM

fools its the ecstasy mentioned in the hip hop which makes kids have sex

Posted by: will at April 19, 2006 5:44 AM

I want every one to know this is not suppose to be on rap, everything is put on rap. That got damn Sam C. is just a fucking sex ADDICT. IF all yall niggas wanna see rap again yall best as well stop blaming it all on rap cause yall know white people is soon gonna complain about this shit and if they see black people is agreeing with them they gonna take away that shit and we wont be able to listen to lean wit it and rock wit it and whisper and all those other videos so I suggest yall hear me out especially Sam C. If your reading this. Say if a white person got on this website right now and complained to the police or whoever they gonna make a big ass deal of the shit and might even cut of rap from television. May even cut off BET forever cause white peoplewanna rule shit. Also what race most abuses children in different ways. You always see some grown woman telling thier story on how thier daddys used to molest them and how they were kidnapped by a caucasian man. So I hope somepeople got my message and is sleeping on what Im saying.I hope Sam C. and Rowdybroad thinks about what Im saying and puts a better comment in as well as the other people out there.


Thank You!

Posted by: Danna at April 19, 2006 10:27 PM

fyi, im white. and i dont know anyone about to shut rap down DANNA. and yeah, lean wit it rock wit it and whisper arent really good songs. UM YEAH, and all the rest of the losers up in here, uhhh lets think about it ALL RAP isnt like that. examples "touch the sky -kanye west" "roses -kanye west" "thugz mansion - 2pac" don talk when u dont know. and dont say anything when u havent thought about it.

WUT WUT

Posted by: stfu at April 20, 2006 1:36 AM

Watching myself fart in the mirror makes me want to have sex. I tried that Rap music once, but I just got sleepy and a really bad case of dry mouth. I'm all for putting hormones in the school lunch milk though.

OK I'm going to Rap for you now:

Pull my finger, pull it hard,
Jesus loves your credit card.
Feed me garlic, feed me beans,
Fart so hard I pops my spleenz.

Yaheearrrd Meh.

God Bless. (pfffffft)
Praise God and bean soup.

Allah can so ma de fo da mufuu'in sand munkeees we poppin in da EyeRack.
Nuke EyeRan.

BONUS: Here's a Cartoon of The Prophet Mohammed (who is an asshole):

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(mohammed = desert monkey asshole)

P.S. I live in Israel.
(Check out my cool Farting Preacher videos on http://video.google.com)

Posted by: Farting Preacher at April 20, 2006 2:44 AM

Rap music and videos is only one of many factors that is responsable for young kids having sex!! There is pier-pressure to consider along with many other factors, and being black or white(i feel) has nothing to do with it, it all depends on what kind of a person you are. if you are strong willed and minded then you wont do what the music is suggesting!we all live in a society obsessed with sex, its in our nature to perform sexual acts, but if a child feels they are ready at 15 then so be it. its all with the role of free wil. a stronger minded child will not go ahead and have sex because the music suggests it or because all of their friends have. maybe it says something about the childs character!!
also by having sex they are undertaking an important life experience that almost everyone will see in their lifetime, it may deter them, or encourage them to do it more!
im getting muddled, but i think it is all about free will/freedom of choice and the strength of someones character! if they choose to have sex, then that is their choice and as long as it is performed properly and safely then that decision should be respected.

im only just 18, i had sex at 15, i dont regret it and i did it because i was in love with my partner at the time,not because i turned my stereo on!!!!!!

Posted by: matenglish at April 20, 2006 4:38 AM

sos didnt realise the conversdation had moved on to (mohammed = desert monkey asshole), just tryin to show a young persons view!!

Posted by: matenglish at April 20, 2006 4:42 AM

I'll take you to the candy shop
I'll let you lick the lollypop
Go 'head girl, don't you stop
Keep going 'til you hit the spot (woah)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: matenglish at April 20, 2006 4:43 AM

By the way that some people express about this matter, it shows that some of them do not have children. This is something serious and we as parents need to talk to our kids about the content on this movies, videos or songs; that is part of publicity and the kids do not understand that. It is our responsability as parents to don't let our kids get influence with this music. they can listen to it. they just need to know that real life is not like that and that every decision that they take is going to have a consecuence

thanks


And I love rap and hip hop music

Posted by: omelys at April 20, 2006 12:02 PM

well, honestly, i blame the parents. not music. music does play a rold, but it doesnt make or influence these kids to have sex it makes them curious. and just because you are curious does not mean you are going to experience the shit so you know about it. some people do ask. but parents now days either dont talk about it and keep it real or them crazy ass people are bringing 3 or 4 different guys home a week while they send there kids in the room to play. parents need to do their fucking job and i say this because of experience me and my friends didnt start having sex at a young age because of some fucking song. we did it because of what we saw and our parents didnt keep it real. so, when and if i do have kids i will make sure to tell them that sex at the age of 13 is going to be tempting and sex is the 2nd best thing in the world. but if you are going to fuck you better use some fucking protection, lets face it sex is there whether music is or not and kids are going to fuck if they want to. telling them no is going to make them more interested, we are dealing with some bad ass kids, they are not like the kids in the 50's that help they momma wih chores and shit. we are limited in discipline now days and that is the problem too. we cant even slap our kid for calling us a bitch without CPS being there in the next 5 minutes. thats these kids problem, the need a good old fashion ass whopin, the problem aint our music, its the parenting and how we discipline our kids and since we cant. life sucks but we gotta do what we gotta do. but if my kid EVER comes home pregnant at 13, after she has her kid i will beath the living shit out of her jail or no jail. cps or no cps.

Posted by: rochelle at April 21, 2006 4:47 PM

yo omelys you say that it is the responsability of the parents well what if they got no parents or if they do there parents have no time for them or they are to busy makeing there own human race and would your listin to your parents when you ware in you teens and plus that wich is not real my be real to some so what do you do then?

Posted by: ger at April 21, 2006 5:03 PM

I DO THINK RAP MUSIC MAKE KIDS HAVE SEX BECAUSE THEY PEOPLE IN RAPING ABOUT WHAT THEY WONT TO DO TO THE MAN OR WOMAN MAKE SOME KIDS WONT TO GO SAY IT TO SOMEONE AND THEY NO WHAT THAT PRESON IS TALKING ANOUT THEN THEY THANK THAT PRESON THINK THAT WONT TO HAVE SEX WITH BE ITS JUST THAT THE OTHER PRESON JUST DONT NOW WHAT HE OR SHE JUST SAID UNTILL THEY ARE DONE DOING WHAT JUT DID AND MACK THE KIDS DO IT OVER AND OVER AGIN BUT THEY JUT DONT NOW CAN HAPPEN TO THEM OR WHAT THEY CAN GET FROM HAVEING SEX.

Posted by: Ms. felder at April 22, 2006 10:10 PM

ok, does hip hop make you have sex?
... Only if you are a retard.
Rational people have their own reasoning, and are not told what to do by what they hear, or see on tv. I love 2Pac, yet i am in college, and dont sell drugs. So, if you have sex after listening to hip hop, good, you're a retard, and you should be castrated. And please, stuff like whitney housten or whatever, or 50 cent thats POP MUSIC. Puts real hip hop to shame.

Posted by: dan at April 22, 2006 11:49 PM

lovely nice i like it

Posted by: vijay deore at April 23, 2006 9:00 AM

it is perfectly natural
for human beings to want to have sex
as soon as they are physically
ready
in other words as soon
as puberty happens
so lets cut all the society mind control crap
give them free condoms and contraceptive advice
and let them fuck
you got a problem with that
if I had simply been
allowed to shag and interact
with the opposite sex
in a natural healthy ans spontaneous way
then i would not have had idots like you
interfering with me and your moralistic society
kids get horny and they need to fuck around age fifteen
this is scientific fact
and if more teenagers were having healthy joyous sex with ech other
then where would all your murderers in iraq be
they would be in bed with there beloved
so lets cut the societal moralistic leaning towards mind controlled violence crap
and have a more juicy sexual health concious world
where people like you and your morals
are simply but politely ignored
teenagers and children today have moralists like yourself destroying their souls and filling there hearts and minds with this bogus poison that you speak of..that it is wrong for teenagers to have sex of theier own free choice if that is indeed what they prefer.
rap music whteher you like it or not is a billion dollar industry for jewish music moguls and their balck puppets....but are you going to stop teenagers enjoying themselves in a perfectly natural way...when every other aspect of this world is being killed exploited or just used for your societal masters profits
ask yourself thsi question or just let go and masturbate and stop balaming evryone else for your own sexual demons
why do you balme evryone else including teenagers for your own sexual crisis or sexual issues
your post is just a projection of your own sexual frustration or lack of sexual fullfillment
so conveniently enough you play the moralistic game
I have a great friend who was a drug and alcohol counsellot in fedral penittentiary in the US he is trasined in psyciatry..he told me that some of the most appaarently respected people in society or the illusion of society in whom we place our trust in,or indeed misguided trust are actually some of the most sexually perverted and twisted people could this be the real reason why society is always attcking teenage sexuality through its minons like you because they in old age antwisted hypocritical morality are just simply jealous and focusing there own anger and hatred to all that is vital ,fresh juicy and energetic?
ill let you ponder on that shalll I

Posted by: amano at April 23, 2006 4:50 PM

yo yo whats dis talk of

Posted by: poodizzle at April 24, 2006 5:58 PM

rap and hip-hop doesnt make u have sex i mean i dont listen to it and neither does my boyfrien and weve only been together for 2 weeks and we almost had sex and we probably will soon.....so wat im tryin to say is that it dont matter wat music u listen to its the world we live in today.

p.s. im 14 yrs old

Posted by: stephanie at April 24, 2006 11:22 PM

rap and hip hop is a big target for teenagers havng sex. i'm 16 and some songs make you like that, but you have to control yourself. ain't nobody making you have sex, its your choose and your decision. not music and BET. they just stress it more but you make the decision.

Posted by: jaquan at April 25, 2006 8:35 AM

Oh My God. You Americans really cant spellor string a sentence together!! Its amazing, here you are judging teenagers, when they are probably more intelligent and clear minded than you lot are!! leave them alone. its within their own free will that they choose to have sexual intercourse, no one will ever stop them, and so there should be no judgement passed on them. Also what a stupid remark "music makes kids have sex". That is the most rediculous thing i have ever heard!! I dont want to farm chickens just because i see it on tv, i dont want to play football just cos i see it in a music video. sex sells. music producers know this and so they use it to their advantage!! but i cant see how sitting down and watching a music video with the occasional referance to sex can make you want to go ou8t and fuck, fuck to lose your vaginity!!!! its silly, you americans need to focus your energy onto something else rather than a stupid idea that you havecreated in your own silly minds!! dont mean to offend though!! lol xxxx

Posted by: englishjenny at April 25, 2006 9:20 AM

u people dun knoe what the fuckk u talkin bout rapp dont do shyt either wayy kids are gonna here bout sexx and wanna explore the situation u fuxkerrsss suckk my buddyy

Posted by: dun worri at April 25, 2006 1:36 PM

oh my god i dont know why yall are makin such a big deal outta this, tha music is not what is pushin us its peer presure and its not tha music but tha females in tha videos who are constantly showin off there body dancin all crazy and trifelin, do not blame tha videos!!!!!! and tha music

Posted by: miranda at April 25, 2006 3:37 PM

oh my god i dont know why yall are makin such a big deal outta this, tha music is not what is pushin us its peer presure and its not tha music but tha females in tha videos who are constantly showin off there body dancin all crazy and trifelin, do not blame tha videos!!!!!! and tha music

Posted by: miranda at April 25, 2006 3:37 PM

country music makes me wanna have sex with a honky tonk!

Posted by: chelace at April 25, 2006 3:39 PM

So sad that a majority of you are dumbasses. From my "East Springfield 4 Life" homie to miranda's astute observation that it's not "tha" music its "tha" females "showin there" body because of peer pressure. Most of you are the example of why the ridiculous lyrics in hip hop still exist. You have not even half the brain to question the lyrics involved and/or blindly defend it without regard for what is really in question here. I am an avid fan of hip hop but as one poster excellently summarized: "i love hip hop but there's no use in defending it". Actual hip hop that has any meaning is in short supply these days from very few artists: Fabolous, Wyclef, and otheres like Kanye, though slightly delusional about his extravagant holy ego.

When people start to pull their heads out of their asses and see just how nonsensical lyrics like "tryin' ta get to you and that booty"(E40) are degrading hip hip, MAYBE there will be a change, until then a critical look at hip hop won't happen in a forum with people ignorantly feeding the machine.

Posted by: xtcfizz at April 25, 2006 9:31 PM

You all are dumb as hell music is not a influence it all in your damn head im 19 yrs old and i never watched tv nor lisoned to music until i turned 17 and i started haveing sex at 14 so music and tv aint shit and all you fuckers talking about white people need to stop because it dont even matter what color you are its how you act and what you do with your life so parents cant run there kids they have to run there damn self and relize from the mustacks they make so shut the fuck up because no body will beable to make a diffrence in this world but the people who sing the songs or the directors of the movie so fucking deal with it.

Posted by: Justina Marie at April 26, 2006 2:00 AM

Ok... I believe we're talking about the GENERAL public... no offence but by the looks of it you don't count as general public... more of a special case...
On the hip-hop matter: I do think that it's getting quite X rated (not that I, a horney teenage boy, mind). But the real shame is the lack of creativity and GOOD music... geez I used to be very much into rap, hip-hop, r&b and the like, but round about 5 years ago it became rather bland; mostly the same stuff about booty, getting drunk, drugs, an in general stuff that kids shouldn't be exposed to at a young age... sure it's the parents responsibility to shield there kids from bad stuff, but let's face it we can't exactly get away from it now can we? First off media coverage is HUGE and second the sheer number of people imitating this is overwhelming, like Justina mentioned it's the singers and directors that have the biggest effect on the public... but we do have the law system, so there might yet be something that can be done to change this... as some people call it: 'pandemic'

Posted by: Michael A. at April 26, 2006 11:40 AM

i think thats complete shit that people think that. they can say that micheal jacksen mother fucking has sex. becouse i listen to rap all the

Posted by: black at April 26, 2006 1:43 PM

i love rap
i love dogs
i love to have sex
i love you
i love your mom
i love me
i gtg

Posted by: Fish & Tartar at April 26, 2006 3:20 PM

rap has goy nothing to do with it it is just the fact that kids in there teen git horny so they go and find some one that is also horny and they have sex and you know what I whant to have sex and I next to never lilsen to rap but I stil want to have sex

Posted by: ger at April 26, 2006 5:11 PM

it's hip-hip, R&B, pop and other shit that leads yound ass kid fucking like rabbits......................Kids young as 10 fucking...thats crazy!

Posted by: shi_shi_ming at April 27, 2006 7:49 AM

Damn, yo who think rap pushes kids to have sex is crazy. Most kids just like the beat to rap and hip-hop! Kids do it becuz of their friends! its called PEER_PRESSURE

Posted by: foreal at April 27, 2006 2:01 PM

dont just put all da blame on rap music b-cuz it aint sum of it com 4rum da crib and things that come on late at nite such as "Gurls gon wild" so rap music cant take all da blame and dont put it of black ppl cuz white gurls r goin wild....

Posted by: niehshia at April 28, 2006 8:04 AM

Raw Dawg was 100% right, but let me take the argument one step further. For 99.99999% of the history of the human race, people have been having sex at 12, 13, years old. That's just how the human race evolved. Go ask your great-grandparents who are in their mid 80's and have kids in their late 60's. Particularly, men have often taken teenage girls sometimes 20,30 years their junior and made them their brides. This has gone on for the entire history of the human race. It's just in our society for the first time in history people actually finish high school, go to college, don't have to start working at 14, so growing up is delayed, but our natural urges remain the same. That's why the music is so sexually charged. That study is wrong. Our society has changed, but nature hasn't.

Posted by: theblackdeath at April 30, 2006 1:36 AM

EY YO...SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

Posted by: Kill All Fags at May 3, 2006 9:11 AM

wow raw dawg does have a great point( but did you have to use such faul langue? who am i kidding XP) but yeah ...anyways , times change( but you cant change time) its just that ppl are scared of a over sexed generation! we have STDs out there now in the U.S. and kids having sex aint( yes i said aint) helping the problem! besides this sex-crazed imgage not only hurt the nation, its hurting the population itself! these kids today will be doing nothing but speading the virus out there and it seems ppl have forgten that...

Posted by: foxxyro at May 4, 2006 2:28 PM

a think this is just daft if kids wann have sex they will have sex

Posted by: x-xsophiex-x at May 6, 2006 2:10 PM

i dont agree childeren know right from wrong and they wanna be fast and have sex its them it has nothing to do with music it has to do with irresponsible parents who dont keep there eyes on there kids good enough... kids aint stupid then when they have stds they wanna get madd if they wasnt so fast it would have never happened... i bet music won't make them hav sex then ...

Posted by: brittany at May 8, 2006 12:41 PM

my opinion on this issue...many things make kids want to have sex, and rap and hip-hop are two of them. It's in the lyrics and the videos. For example, watch Shakira's "La Tortura" video--it's soft porn!
Anyway, i'm doing a social commentary project on this issue, and i am using several comment's from above. So thanks for your opinions! Maybe you all will help me get an A...

Posted by: em at May 8, 2006 9:16 PM

All this shit about rap, sex, and hip hop, like most people here said that sex sells and it tru. Alot of the images that are seen in videos are terrible. back in da day, when Salt-n-Pepa and Queen Latifah and MC Lyte was on da scene, young people looked up to them. Now i hear alot of young girls feel like they have to look like them hoes on tv to be accepted by a man. I dont even watch videos anymore. whats fucked up is that ITS THE PARENTS. You CANNOT entirly blame rap and hip hop entirely on young kids having sex. there are people who teach their kids that sex is a private kind of thing, not to be broadcasted out to the world. If the parents allow thier kids to watch certain things, then tell their kids dont do something--condradictory, hell yeah. Pregancy rate is high for people who are 18 and younger. This shit is crazy yo. There are alot of good parents out there but like forreal said, its peer pressure and thats a bitch. There aint enuff positive support for children who think its iight to be fuckin at the age where kids are supposed to be playing with toys and shit. Rap and Hip Hop may contribute to sex, but it always goes back to the parents teaching thier kids to be safe and that it aint cool to be fuckin at 12 and get knocked up at 13 or 14. Some parents blame the videos and the music, but they allow thier kids to watch it all fuckin day and dont take out time to spend with thier kids. So in other words, the TV is babysitting tha kids.
How would anyone feel that thier 13 year old child comes back to you and say that she is pregnant or you son got someone pregnant because they were watching videos?

Posted by: Anonymous at May 11, 2006 2:30 PM

wow thats great!! i never got an A in my life( thanks EM)!! haha j/p XP... but i agree with britany...they know right from wrong..."rap gives them the means to" i dont belive that... i think that some of the kids that have good parents and that have good enivorments just want to do something just to get their parents mad...what i mean is that they may feel their life is being to restricked...they want to break free, feel lose and exspreince new and different things...sex would be that ultimate relese...to them i suppose

Posted by: foxxyro at May 11, 2006 2:33 PM

You people are absolutely stupid. You act like the hip-hop community started violence and pre-marital or sex at "early" ages. My great great grandmother had her first kids at around 14, and yours probably weren't much different.

Do you seriously think that people haven't been having sex at puberty and killing each other for milennia?

I knew it all along. If only Hitler hadn't been listening to NWA and all that thug life shit, then Germany would have been just fine. That goes for Genghis Khan too.

And all that primitive music has people having kids at 13 in tribal communities? They must be sending the wrong message.

Only a bunch of stupid fucking Americans could possibly think something like this. You're all so self-centered that you think there's nothing wrong with humans and they're capable of perfection -- you have to face the fact that we are a species that produces cold-blooded killers, rapists and telemarketers from our gene pool. If there was a possibility of a utopia, the communists would have had it a long time ago.

Get a grip and open your eyes. We manipulate, destroy and fornicate. Deal with it.

Posted by: Gentry at May 17, 2006 1:39 AM

whoa!! there Gentry! nobody is trying to be perfect or make the perfect human being for this backwards nation. and no one is talking about killing and shit( see you made me curse, i hope your happy lol!!) but i see what your point is...but we are doing just that...dealing with it. b/c there is no way to stop the future from happing and we all know whats gonna happen b/c history repeats itself. but it seems you can care less on what happends to your future... yes america sucks ass( it was in the porno one time hahaha) but you can see what happends when things are left alone and we " just deal with it" action can be taken to help people,teens, kids, your kids if you have any( someday) there will be a day, i belive , that all humans will die out...i dont want to live in a time where ppl dont care to kill, care to hate, care to die. i love this life i have...and it sickens me that there are ppl wasting it b/c they got a lil horny, or a lil angry, or a lil sad. the act of sex itself is not the problem, its that fact that kids dont care about the risks and danger and satisfaction it can bring...THEY ARE NOT READY TO GROW UP! THEY ARE NOT READY TO SEE REALITY AT ITS WORST! THEY DONT NEED TO "JUST DEAL WITH IT!" they just need to be kids and play pretend and play hide and seek and have a chiledhood....thats all this is about, i belive.

Posted by: foxxyro at May 22, 2006 12:20 PM

ok, this is rediculous, of course the messages behind the hip-hop songs are far from moral, but in their defense, parents have a choice to not let their children listen to it..

stop complaining, its great music.. and if kids are having sex because of it.. well keep them away from it. and if you cant control your children, well thats your own damn fault.

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Posted by: kay at June 10, 2006 10:56 PM

ummmm yea sometimes listen to rap,hip hop,and r&b can get u in the mood but i mean if u dont wanna do it dont do the music not forcing u to or something!.....but i would let T.I "hit from the back and make u feelin it in ya chest"yes indeed...jp-ing ya'll its straight though!

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