Media Chin-Check

The success of the artist that achieves platinum-status is clearly an unexplained phenomenon. Fans' reasons for relating to particular artists for whatever reason can only be described varyingly on personal levels. Surely there are some wonderful tales (as wonderful as those told by the artists themselves) of how each individual artist represents a specific demographic and a way of life that vary from consumer to consumer.

Why one artist is perhaps adored for their lack of enunciation versus why another such as Common gets the "People's Seal Of Approval" is specifically based upon an individual's experiences, successes, failures, and their expectation. The artist KRS-one once said "sell your image not your record, records come and go and get collected". There are so many images today and yet they're just that "images" and "shadows" versus the original object that cast the shadows in the first place.

Based upon the specifics of the blog's wording, clearly Common is not the issue, for he is already well spoken for and rightfully so by his own accord. People know "right" from "wrong", the gists of jest, and also simply put, if you burn you learn. The reason for Mike Jones success is due in part to certain individuals' personal psychology similar to the Greek tragedy of Phaethon.

Phaethon was a mortal young man whose mother told him, when he was of age to question who his father was, that his father was the sun deity Apollo himself. Upon learning that his father was a deity, it was not enough for Phaethon to merely know such. Phaethon had to prove it ostentatiously to all his nay-saying peers, all juvenile mind you, all juvenile. Phaethon destroyed himself to say the least when he tried to walk in the shoes of his father by being surrogate to his father's duties.

The appeal of southern rap moreso now than ever was since rap's inception at least 30 years ago is lies somewhere in the song by the Temptations called "Papa Was A Rolling Stone". Many of those that can appreciate the moral of "Papa was A Rolling Stone" can SEE the futility of the creed and legacy of the Southern African-American's depression-fueled decadent post-slavery past and it's resurrection from the dead where it so belonged.

Drinking, and lying and promiscuing (promiscuity), polygamating (polygamy) and dead-beat parenting were all but dead to an extent, but now resurrected with a passion for consuming the life-forces of the living as the dead have a tendency to do. Such is the appeal of southern rap to tempt many of the ignorant with a potentially daring success, but at what expense in the long-run.

Many people buy music that is new to them, you know like if one lives in the suburbs they may buy, Rock, or Metal, and now Rap...WHY? Because it's out of their norm and their parents let them. Many do not get to spend much time with their hard-working parents and only get lies from their parents about when and how they are going to spend a whole weekend with their children like on that Dave Chapelle episode where the Oscar-type, garbage can-dwelling character asks the kids when they last spent time with their work-a-holic parents.

Most times the children are so tired of the boring lies from their parents that they're like, "Why not here something excitng and out of the ordinary, a mental excursion even, Hey!!! Maybe some rap music" even if they are sensational lies. Sort of like Dave Chapelle said on "For What It's Worth", sometimes the suburban kids get tired of juice that's good for them and and they want some drink that has absolutely no nutritional benefit but is more colorful and seemingly tastier.

Only the people who believe the stereotypes and those who know not of them are fascinated by the fantastical tales of Southern epicurean decadence. We are not talking about Mike Jones in particular, because dude is straight funny and gets mad support, but for the moment he represents the south because he's probably the latest southern artist to reach platinum status. On the real most of these southern rap artists claim to be so southern are far removed from the true southern creed of share-cropping: getting up early and working hard from can't see in the morning 'til can't see at night.

Naw these southern dudes that everybody's sweatin' are from the projects and sell crack-cocaine and claim to be hard. Now we don't know where people got off getting the notion that being from the projects makes you "HARD", but last we checked, people in the projects had rent as low as $25 a month, their parents received public assistance checks, mad food stamps before there was an E.B.T. and those were the dudes that sported the most expensive gear and/or shoes. That's not "HARD", that's priviledged.

Hard is when your income is too much to qualify for the projects and too low to even be considered middle class. Hard living is when you have it hard, and you have 3 pair of pants that you try to switch up throughout the week and freak the coordination so peeps don't recognize that the pants you wear on Thursday, you wore on Tuesday, and the pants you wear on Friday, you wore on Monday, ya dig?

Project dudes aren't hard, they just don't give a d*mn. That's EASY...that's not HARD, that's EASY. Project apartments are decked out materially...What? You didn't know? Well you better ask somebody that does know. It just so happens that money-management is where some people from the projects run into problems. That's why there are project generations where there are like 2 and 3 generations of families that have dwelled in the projects without exit or change, in their project of residence.

Peep that Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliot joint "It's Alright", cause Yo, that joint IS Alright, ALRIGHT. Missy was physically fly before she lost that weight, but she's sure to catch wreck on the Mic because she probably feels better about herself now. Go Missy.

The South was called the "Dirty South" first by Goodie MOb and afterwards everybody else claiming capitalized off of exploiting the "DIRTY" aspect whereas Goodie MOb where a warning force amongst Southerners especially African-Americans. Goodie MOb probably never fully got the respect that they deserved, and they southern drawled as much as or more than any of the crunk bastards.

We use that word only because they don't acknowledge Goodie MOb or Outkast as the fathers of their southern style WITH something to say. Goodie MOb and Outkast attested to the fact that the South is apart of what's geographically called "The Bible Belt" where zeal of faith and values abound, to say the least. Crack-dealing is out of place in the South where the first slaves touched down in the Carolinas of the 13 original colonies of the Americas from the get-go. How does that sound, to go from being slaves when there was no crack-epidemic to being "free" to walk up the street and find it hard to NOT walk into a crack-head every second or third person you meet.

You can like all the funny-talking rappers rhyming about the streets where they're from, some stories true, some falsified, but one things for sure, it's not right to not say the right things when you have the platform to say so. If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem, Eldridge Cleaver got that out of the Bible. Religion aside, truth is truth like it or not, "Hate It or Love It", what are you going to do about it?

Even 50-Cent wants to be southern, by his own mouth he so said don't he sound like he's from down south or southern. True southern values are hard-work, sincerity, and optimism through the worst of times. Those values have been forsaken for a record deal reminiscent of "Crossroads" with Joe Seneca from "Solomon Northup's Odyssey" and Ralph Macchio from "The Karate Kid". On "Crossroads" Blind Dog Fulton played by Joe Seneca was on a mission to regain his soul back that he had sold to "Ol' Scratch. Peep that one.

Good grammar may be learned, but atrophies through entropy where by energy declines over time as a universal law. Pioneers from the South (that aided African-Americans) like Martin Luther King Jr., Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, and Nathaniel "Nat" Turner did what they did not to see it all amount to the apathy and decadence that is the focal theme of most southern categorized rap. Mike Jones is focused believe it or not because he has a balance to his tracklist that most other rappers can't say they have, besides their at least one mandatory erotic freak song.

We know the South, the Piggly-Wiggly grocery stores, the Pick-n-Pay Shoes, the Cugas shoes. So what? That means sell crack-forever EVER, FOREVER EVER? Fine, but you don't have to rap about it...............FOR THE 3 MILLIONTH TIME ALREADY, enough already, ease up off of that already. Most everybody above age 13 already knows about the hood, except for those younger. There was a time when people didn't know about the drugs say 1995 say 14 years after the crack first hit the streets of San Francisco in maybe 1981, 1982, or 1983.

Truly, enough already. Even Jay-Z said "Pain is Pleasure". We know heroin is that killer high of all highs, but we're NOT, DO NOT, WE REPEAT, WE ARE NOT f*cking with that. Just like garbage music with the phat beats and bassline grooves. Next time a groove or grooves that possess your body to groove uncontrollably or subconsciously come on, check the lyrics and see if the songs, music and lyrics are really what they are hyped up to be. Before and After.

High and Drunk people have the most fickle, flaky taste in music. They will, while in a high or drunken stupor, vibe and groove to anything, and we mean ANYTHING. You don't want their opinion about what's fly, because it changes as they go up and down from their highs.

It's like going home with a person from the club after you're HIGH or DRUNK (when you're highly impressionable) and waking up to see that you must have been temporarily out of your mind to take up time with such a scab. We noticed that most of the time a fly song (musically) that is, came on, the lyrics were garbage, straight second rate, like shake at the bottom of the bag if music is how you get elevated. There is no wrong or right of what to listen to in music, it's all about YOUR values that YOU entertain, if any. That's just our opinion.

Peace be unto you all. We all need some peace. PEACE.

Wow, that post is pretty f'ing long. Anyone read it?

lol
great post!
It took a while but i got around to reading it....with a post like that u would think that there isn`t much to add. in truth there isn`t. although i find the need to comment nonetheless. People these days have less imagination then ever. i mean look at the movies people watch. watered down versions of old books, old tv shows now available on cable anyways,comic books(let`s cut out the part where he makes his own web slingers!), plays, fables(disney). what u end up is with people that appreciate any image of someone that they perceive as being original. like in that simpsons when girls are going crazy over a malibu stacy that has a new hat. now in talking about people`s love of commercial poppish hip hop, they dont listen to the lyrics..sometimes not even the beat(people seen austin powers, they never went crazy over that beat b4 luda did it. they just look at the image...if the doll has a new hat then it must be different and cooler then its former hatless self. now yaknow i thought i lost ya with the projects isn`t hard thing...but since i know the projects all too well, i have to agree with your points. people in north america have the most oppurtunities for success then anywhere in the world, yet they dont take advantage of these oppurtunities. in terms of location and resources this is true. regardless of where people live, whether trailer park or projects..people got oppurtunities. yet a lot of people in the projects these days have an inferiority complex that these days is helped by irresponsible rapping. glorified weak ass lyrics about posers that either just had cousins in the projects, went to private school or who had lucky breaks and advantages in life is simply irresponsible. how can modern day rappers completely discount what hip hop was originally about with their garbage. bigs and pac to the naked eye glorified thuggishness, but in truth their music had messages to it. not nowadays, now people say shit like smoke weed.....chronic...and base whole songs about this crap for no reason. what hip hop needs is lyrical originality..something along the lines of the truth in what is going on in todays time, but wait a minute...i know underground rappers that already talk about that stuff. then what we really need is for people to stop buying bad cd`s bcoz they have no imaginations. people need to read more.
the beats will probably b the same u just wont b hearing 50 mumble incoherent crap over them. stop buying stupid crap and then maybe music execs will look for something new and creative....(how bout the truth?) they`ll pause for a minute and realize that it just might work. the truth about the system what goes on in society. will any commercial rapper talk about the effects of the m.j trial in their next album or will they just make a quick joke to get laughs or do some weak beastie boys style video about it to hide weak style and delivery. here`s a clue..how many retrospective rhymes can u name about the o.j trial?rap and hip hop were used to educate people. ya`ll got access to good music...download it, search your goodwill for old vinyl. look in your dusty tape player see if there`s an old rap tape and play it and listen...if it sucks try recycling it and find out on the net if u get as much energy from it as u would an old pop can. but anyways that was my little comment.
We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.

How much of the issue is due to the acceptance of sub-par material by the masses, and how much of it is a lack of marketable material by MCs with depth? If you want to sell records, you need beats that appeal to radio, clubs, AND the streets. It's the reality - the masses WANT stuff they can dance to.

Of course, we can't blame it all on the artists here - exactly who decided that Talib Kweli needed to start things off with a retread of a past hit ("I Try" is "Get By" with a new coat of paint), and follow it up with the "sappy love song" ("Never Been In Love")? Where in the heck is "Work It Out", a song that not only has a point, but music that could get radio or club play (hey... it even has a call and response chorus!). "Going Hard" or "A-Game" both had better appeal than the first two singles, but they are conspicuously absent as well.

When are we gonna get more lyrics with depth as well as beats that bang?

(BTW - What's the problem with long posts? Are people scared of words or something? Paraphrasing Chris Rock - "Ya wanna keep your money safe... hide it in a book... 'cause niggas don't read! A book is like kryptonite to a nigga..."

You are quite right daJam, there will not be an equitable change in the the music we call Hip Hop until the artists stop being uptight about the marketting. Based on what you said about the redundancy surrounding the singles released for Talib Kweli, it seems like that was clearly the work of maybe member of Talib's extended staff. Talib thought too hard about how to do his last album whereas he should have just did it, spur of the moment passion and all. We're not talking about a freestyle, but just an album that's not so clinically premeditated.

He cleaned up that last album, like you would expect from a 3rd album rapper whose responsibilities depended upon what seemed like a sure shot marketting success. Talib didn't take the chances he took when he had less domestic responsibility. He swept all the red mud he tracked in from outside the studio back out so to speak. It's cool we understand that his savings were dependent upon some type of consistency. Stakes are high.

There is a tendency of a lot of rappers to sacrifice their potential integrity placing their priority on their own ends over their unique commitment to the art that transcends the material aspects of what it took to make the album that has a return yield far greater than the initial investment. That Public Enemy production by the Bomb Squad's Hank and Keith Shocklee was danceable and of a qualified integrity worth its acclaim.

There are so many unconventional production techniques available nowadays, that rather than to look at the already tried and true successes, rappers should tread new ground instead of trying to recreate the limited yet remarkable successes of a previous album.

Alls well that ends well, a mistake you can walk away from is mistake to be learned from. Peace be unto you all. We all need some PEACE.

Stop taking drugs yaknow, leave that x alone!

while you guys write novels about the subject, I'm going to simplify the shit. A. The industry is FUCKED with weak ass A&R's, music executives that do not know anything about hip-hop. B. Subliminals, the more and longer you play the wack song, the more subseptiable the norms will like it. This is a generation that does not know a got damn thing about the hip-hop world, all they care about is a hot beat, a hook and a catch phrase. C. The Industry drowns out real artists and puts in wack artists to make a quick buck, also the power of technology helps these artists sound better, voice alteration, a staff of professional writers that help your wack song that comes out of a dopehead sound educated and radio friendly. D. Very few rappers are REAL CEO's. That's why they have management, they are not doing the signing deals or making things happen that's behing the management scenes, that's why they send the artists to somewhere else and party, while the real businessmen chopp it up and see where the artists can do strong in which market. Not a lot of these artists are intelligent, they just for show. Guys like common, Kayne, Jay, they will exceed as great artist and businessmen, they had some schooling and training, the rest just know how to lip-scyne

PEACE

i dont know where you from yaknow, but you must be about 15 and from new york they way you are trying to diss the south.

why?

all this "Drinking, and lying and promiscuing (promiscuity), polygamating (polygamy) and dead-beat parenting" stuff didnt start in the south nor was it made popular in the south. THE SOUTH took cali/new york's style and started talking about what they talk about. simple and plain.

NOW, it just so happens that the south is off the chain W/that type of b.s. that cali/new york invented, and cali/new york is hangin on a string, that the south is going to get dissed all over again.

and when you said this:
" Southern African-American's depression-fueled decadent post-slavery past".......

NIGGA.....where you think you come from?
and i called you a nigga, cause you actin like the definition-ignorant!

you and everybody who agreed with this " Southern African-American's depression-fueled decadent post-slavery past" need to chin-check yaselves, "go ask ya mother".....and ya father too, where ya peoples was b4 you got to new york, cali, or whereever you at dissin the south.

dey was in THE SOUTH!
you aint no kin to crispus atticus, nigga! he got shot up, and didnt leave no offspring behind.

you kin to kunta, nigga. and all the rest of them africans that got shipped over here. and where did they get shipped to? THE SOUTH!

and when the blacks started poppin up in philly, cali, new york, chicago, OPENING UP BARS, AND CLUBS, and all that " Southern African-American's depression-fueled decadent post-slavery past" you niggas love to celebrate now, they didnt come from moscow, THEY CAME FROM THE SOUTH!!!!!

ALL YALL ANCESTORS FROM THE SOUTH!!!

so if " Southern African-American's depression-fueled decadent post-slavery past" is like that, you came from it, too!

AND I HOPE YOU AINT WHITE! so dont come talkin that "who said i was black" crap. cause if you is......

and whats with the connect between slavery and drugs? thats lame. acting like the south dont got drugs?!? I LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF A TRAP!!!! and it aint cool. the crackheads ARE everywhere. my 2nd cousin, who used to be a major seller, is now a head.

how you think new york get it? in the air? you been watchin to many videos! ya get by car, from the south. and they got it from whereever.......

dont think i like this hip hop crap, drug crap, or any of that.

my point is that yall need to stop blaming the south for ya troubles, lame record sales, loss of chart toppers, ya ladies wanting "country boyz" or "soldiers". dont blame the south, blame the same ol lame ol crap thats been coming outta new york, for the past decade. no diversity whatsoever.

CapitalP how dare you say leave that "X" alone, You have got to be trippin'. Spike Lee has been putting out the the hits yo. From "School Daze", "Girl 6", "Clockers", "She's Gotta Have It", "He Got Game" and of course "X". Naw CapitalP, you ought to pick up that "X" that jawnt will elevate your mind for nearly 3 and 1/2 hours, and the effects will probably last a lifetime. Better peep that "Bamboozled" too, if you get baked too much, you'll have a "Man-tan".

Don't sweat it homie, that "X" won't hurt you it's great, it's super, it's Au Natural. Now that ecstacy, that stuff will cause you to have an abnormal brain M.R.I. scan. An abnormal reading of a magnetic resolution imaging scan. You'll be a half-baked vegetable dude. Quit while you're aHEAD or still have one. Just Say No Man!! Just Say NO.

That's another reason why there is a lot of diluted garbage on the market, because a lot of rappers are just broke drug addicts before they get signed. You ever wonder why they sounded better on mixtapes and such before they drop their wack albums? It because when they don't have the money to stone themselves dumb, they actually dedicate some quality material, but after they get that first royalty check!!!........it's OVER. "Stick a fork in'em Redman, WHY? Because he's done".

Lest a person confesses to be music critic, they are normal for all intents and purposes. Actually the "norm" has lost value and people actually accept sub-par quality and value more than what used to be normal. People think smoking marijuana EVERYDAY is normal. Unless your a RastafARIan and you read the Bible when you smoke because it's your religion, then smoking marijuana everyday is NOT, we repeat NOT normal. That just means you are an unconfirmed drug addict, addicted to the drug of your choice.

Don't take it too hard though, some people are FOOD addicts. People think SUPER-sized fries and drinks are normal. Naw, peeps, that's not normal, regular is not even normal. Normal is when you order that water in the smaller than regular cup because regular is the cup suitable for a king whose regal. Like Jeff Foxworthy from "You might be a Red-Neck" fame might say, If you Supersize all of your fries and drinks or do so MOST of the time, YOU Might not be normal.

Since Dr. Dre's "The Chronic" album dropped in late 1992, a lot of people thought it was normal to "Hit switches and smack up b*tches", but guess what? That's not normal. Everybody and there fam were peddling dope on the corners and in the middle of the street in broad daylight moreso since B.I.G. dropped juicy to justify it. But guess what people? That's not normal.

Mad people are buggin' out, going straight mad, getting mad at the drop of a dime straight irritable and irate for what? Lack of patience. That's why the music is garbage, and people drop albums every year BECAUSE the music is ultra simple and GARBAGE and has no substance to carry the fans over through a few years or a year and a half.

It's because people started peddling that crack back in the early 1980s through now the crack babies are like in their 20s now and a few of them are unable to remain focused for a prolonged amount of time (No Offense intended) and so the music for their age demographic has been simplified, for their attention deficit minds to digest. Samples are dope, but those sped up samples appease the ever roaming minds of some children of crack addicts. Nas talked about that, because somebody needed to. PEACE Nas. It's all Peace.

Samples are dope, but they do not have to necessarily be sped up so. The pleasure of the SPED UP sample is about as fleeting as we hear that a crack high is, seconds to minutes. You can have that, it's cool, but we're not sweating that. It's pointless. Crack-peddlers are actually SLAVES for the fiends they SERVE. How? Because crack-heads have paying jobs that help them maintain their crack-habits. Schucks, fiends work JUST to support their crack-habits, truth be told. While on the flipside, it's the crack-peddlers out in all type of elements of the weather, fiending for the FIENDS to fiend. Jay-Z talked about that at the at the beginning of the track "Can I Live" on the "Reasonable Doubt" album. Tell Jay-Z he's not normal? Hard to do if you're a member of the Jay-Z jock riders club (No offense, but those people know who they are).

But a few people have the nerve to say that thinking rational people are not normal? O.K. The next time someone accuses you of not being normal, before you get upset, peep what age bracket they are in, then just chill, for real. Normal all depends on when you were born, that's why older folk thought we were trippin' to be listening to N.W.A. and early gangster rap (even though N.W.A. never advocated any gang affiliation but spoke of avoiding the streets and using your mind).

If the shoe fits. Hey??? Even Talib Kweli was like, sometimes got to go insane to remain on top of the game man. Then again Ras Kass and Killa Priest were like "Whut Part Of The Game Is This" of of Killa Priest's "View from Masada" album. Then KRS-one sampled that "This ain't no game(scratching), game, game, game, (scratching) this ain't no...(KRS-one raps) Coooool, like the air we breathe" from the "Criminal Minded" album, the track "A Word From Our Sponsor". Oh Yeah.

Peace be unto you all. We all need some Peace. PEACE.

Peace to from the south...etc. You are mad passionate dude. May your passion revolutionize Southern Rap before It's A Wrap. Your vehement ire is misplaced and you irrationally lunge at the wrong ones, but HEY, we have all been there before, a time or too. You see from the south...etc, you touched on a valid point, documenting only a PORTION of the African Diaspora, but you were on point to mention Kunta from roots.

EVERYBODY in the WHOLE WORLD is from Africa, but guess what? You don't see everybody from wherever they are in the world today, still there, now do you? Nor did we hear you talk about how you and your Southern Coalition Of Crack Peddlers Of America were going charter a boat like Marcus Garvey did and head back to Africa like you said everybody is from down South.

Peep that movie Amistad about the 53 West Africans that rebelled aboard a kidnappers' ship, not slave ship, but a kidnappers' ship (if you want use the slave, that's your prerogative) that rebelled to commandeer the ship yet unable to navigate it, they wound up in New York. Everybody African-American may not necessarily be from the South, there were other possibilities for people to have various places of settlement in America.

If you are really from the south...etc as you say, by chance you may have heard that song by Temptations titled "Poppa Was A Rolling Stone". It was sampled by Run DMC on their "Tougher Than Leather" album on the track titled "Poppa Crazy". Maybe you heard the Run DMC version in case your not familiar with southern Rhythm&Blues like Joe Tex, Sam Cooke, or the O'Jays to name a few.

At any rate the song "Poppa Was A Rolling Stone" by the Temptations. It talked about how cold, insensitive, and aloof their fathers were. The descriptions of the African-American patriarchs were nothing that most southerners would find exceptionally strange, as such descriptions of depression-fueled African-American males were quite common. By the end of the song though, the actions of their fathers were scrutinized and scorned as a shame and one could gather that they, the Temptations would not allow themselves to fall victim to the temptation to follow in the fallen footsteps of their father who was never even there for his children.

The song was about the end of one dysfunctional era, finally put to rest by the sons who would do better than their pappy, as best they could. That's why the scheme of the song has the sons asking their mother about their father that they never knew, to know if any of their bad habits were from how they were nurtured and raised or by the nature that they may have inheritted from their deceased father or their mother who saw fit not to mention their father to them earlier.

On another note from the south...etc, there were 3 crosses burned about a month and a half ago, in the south and in the heart of the crack-infested African-American part of town at that. There's not much to be done so long after the fact that the perpetraters were long gone from the scene, so don't go riffin' on innocent people. Ku Klux Klan did that and no one used a cell phone or nothing to call the police.

The sad part though is the incident happened at about 9 or 10:00 p.m. when the sun has dropped from the sky. Thats when the peddlers push dope and the crackheads scurry, and the freaks come out at night. Yet no one, no crackheads nor any crack peddlers claimed to have seen anything. Who fronted you know. Who from the Southern Collective represented for the hood tattered with gang signs. Nobody because they might as well have been working for the Ku Klux Klan, you know.

No crack-peddlers saw fit to call the police because they cared no more for their fellows than the Klan did. Think about, the crosses were burned right where the Klan knew the police wouldn't be. Wouldn't that pretty much be the same area(s) were say ummm..... the 'hood pharmacists peddled crack. THAT'S RIGHT. Crackheads do not miss a thing either, they walk around looking for crack on the ground. Crackheads and crack peddlers are both some sell-outs. Period.

We will be glad though when they get their heads back on right. Everyone will be glad except for the crack peddlers. Truly lost is the crack peddler that hopes that the crackfiends never overcome their addictions. Everybody, including crackheads are somebody to somebody else.

Crackheads are in SOMEBODY'S family, and we sympathize with You, from the south...etc. Peace be unto you dude, because it hurts anybody to see a member of their family in bondage to the poison in the bottle or the pipe or whatever the poison is in. There is no glory in the fact that drugs get distributed nationwide from Miami and Texas via South America and Central America.

Check out that Immortal Technique album "Revolutionary vol.2" there is a track on there called "Peruvian Cocaine" and it is dope, the whole album is actually, and "Revolutionary vol.2".

Peace be unto you from the south...etc, and Peace be unto you all. We all need some peace, no matter where you are from. PEACE.

fuck y'all with these long ass post. say whassup and get off the mike

Who is this brother Yaknow! It's a blessing to have you on here. I couldn't say it any better. Freedom Fighters throw your fists up!

..if only we could get this kind of awareness to be more vocal, and where its most needed. And I dont mean more long post, which is good but it does no good to us JUST in here. Sometimes we need to see the emotion to become as passionate, and Im from NYC, where hip hop started. And To the southern cat going on & on....
yeah NYC is stagnant, and thats because alot of everyday cats is successful in the game without the 9-5, so the cats coming up are mimicking. plain & simple. but Id rather have a bunch of repeated shit thatn straight stripper rap. if you wanna get technical, do the thoro niggas down there make their ass clap too? cause i see mean mugs and gold teeth at every chance to stripper music. Thats NOT hip-hop thats crunk, and the south made it clear thats what it is. I got fam in Savannah ga,North & south click and they come to the boro (QU) and dont be on none of that shit you talking about. Some niggas down there still think they will get robbed if they step foot anywhere in NY, cause they on their shit only, just like i know a few cats in QB who havent left Queens in over 10yrs. its just a fact.
Corporate america has fucked up the game by giving niggas who come from nothing on monday a mill by thursday and now they Scarface by saturday.
ALL music is stupid in 05...R&B,rap,rock you name it..its all fucked up, but there is no way that any side of hip-hop can blame another..we are all to blame, south included, shit mainly the south. Its always been sex driven since Luke...that aint right even if it did start up north, but it didnt.Breathe.

The South has been making rap since NYC, but since NYC is the center of the world...their rap got put on first. But now the South has caught up and we are getting our voice out.

Outkast is the greatest group ever in rap. Production and lyrics and style. They dont make rap, they make music. And they are from the South and proud. Its our culutre, big booties, big rims, bass, etc. etc. Thats how we do it and no one, not even Outkast denies that. So back up off the South cause we gon rise again...NYC days are over shawty!!! And even if the mainstream stop listening to the South, we'll be doing what we been doing for 2 decades...so fuck what ya heard!

i only listen to real rap (lyrics are most important)

I dont listen to fake mainstream commercial bullshit garbage rap:

50 cent
Mike Jones
Slim thug
Nelly
Chingy
Fabulous
Puff daddy
Dipset
Young Gunz
Mephis bleek
G-unit
Cash money
Most south rappers

I do listen to real rap music:
Nas
Biggie
Fugees
Keith murry
Immortal technique
Wu-tang Clan
Bone thugs
Scarface (the only good southern rapper)
Geto Boys
Kweli
Mos-def
KRS-ONE
A tribe called quest
Big L
Jedi Mind Tricks
Ill bill
Necro
Sabac
Hyde
Pharoh Monch
Jean gray

great page...im sure i'll come back...best regards

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