Man, Brotha Barack should have been DISTANCED himself from Wright. I mean, what kind of friend and mentor will continue to be a firebrand to a person running for Pres-O-Dent? And for Brotha Barack to NOW be offended from what Wright said YESTERDAY, while he listened to a more harsh Rev Wright for the past 20 years is crazy. We should just call Brotha Barack....."TOAST". Stick a fork in him.........HE'S DONE.

Rumos is that VIBE magazine is folding, and that the new CEO, Steve Aaron, has run them into millions in losses. From a legend like Quincy Jones,,, to an ass like Steve Aaron... that ain't progress.

I don't know if Barack is unelectable, but under CEO Steve Aaron, VIBE is now unreadable.

And to quote the GREAT MC Ren, "It wasn't a mistake, it was a setup. So until I finish pumpin' my lyrics, you should shut up." TRANSLATION>>>>>>Brotha Barack can see Rev Wright derailing his campaign. And Brotha Barack would appreciate it if Rev Wright "dissappeared" until the campaign was over.

I tried to told y'all 3 or 4 blogs ago that Schmillary was gonna do what the Clintons do and steal this from Brotha Barack. Do you all realize that an active Schmillary supporter set up the press conference for Rev Wright at the National Press Club yesterday? The name of the chick escapes me now. But, she has written editorials DENOUNCING Brotha Barack because he didn't DENOUNCE Rev Wright. Meaning, that the POWERS that BE knew that the mere presence of Rev Wright was gonna keep the heat on Brotha Barack. And for Wright to KNOWINGLY be used like that just goes to show that MOST PREACHERS are out for self. He's throwing Brotha BArack under the bus a he don't give a crap.

Reverend Wright needs to zip those lips. His crazy talk is making Barack supporters turn to Hililary. Reverend Wright does not represent the black church or black people. The Pastor has gone "Hollywood", it's an ego thing for him.

your a communist biko.
note from biko: come on enoch. for the last 3 months you've been trying to get me to address your tirades. I've read both Marx and Engels. While I think they were great philosophers...i am not a communist. I don't get down with their mechanistic evaluation of history nor do I think that a worker's revolution is inevitable...especially in an era in which our social and political relations are defined by a pending ecological disaster. If you want to peg me...peg me as a humanist.

Someone needs to duck tape the Reverends mouth shut ASAP. Faux News is having a helluvah day play those sound bites over and over again.

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As for Obama he has wayyyy tooo many supporters to drop out the race right now if he does he'll look weak as hell.

For the sake of Obama's campaigne, it would have been wise for Rev. Wright to wait until after the general election to speak to the media. I think that as of today Obama is still electable, but there is no doubt in my mind that Rev. Wright's comments will be used against Obama by the republicans to turn this into a black vs white type of election that will cost Obama the presidency.

Yeah, it's cold blooded. Crabs in a barrel. It's not that the media is wrong here, it's what they do. It's Wright and Farrakhan who can't chill out and shut the fuck up for 10 minutes while Obama handles his business. I hope they're not stupid and they don't know they're killing his campaign. It's seems like they're or Wright anyway is doing it on purpose.

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WTF Is all ths Brother Barrark ShT,
I AM SICK OF FOOLISH BLACK PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A BLACK PRESEDENT Dammit!!! Wake up,and in the same breath,DISRESPECT OUR ONLY MINISTER FARAKAHN! NOW THAT IS WHY WE DONT HAVE ANYTHING NOW! BECAUSE IGNORANT FOOLS LIKE THIS^^^^^^^COON-MANIA!

It seems that none of you have watched any of Rev Wright's sermons or interviews in their entirety. Rev Wright is speaking truth to power. If Obama has a problem with true words being spoken, why would you want him as our president? If all that matters is that we have a black president then you're missing the point. As a country we need someone to be honest with the people and unapologetic in his policies. This Negro hasn't even made it to office yet and is already changing his tune.

For the record, I'm not voting for anyone of the three viable candidates. It would be a waste of my time. If, by some miracle, Obama makes it to the seat, he'll just serve as a scapegoat for all of our festering problems.

white people dont ask catholics why they keep sitting in mass every week even though they know how many molestors they have in their priesthood. they just ask obama to leave wright because he is blacks so dont fall for the bullshit everybody because chris matthews on hardball is catholic and he asks why obama hasnt left that church so they are being hypocrites.

Catholics just sit there in mass every week and they know their history of children being molested but now they turn around like hypocrites and tell obama he needs to leave his church over what his pastor said. I think its worse that people like chris matthews and bill oreilly will still be catholic around molesters who are claiming to be men of the cloth but they go on their shows and act like the pope and judge obama they are some hypocrites everynight.

be real people. rev wright speaks the TRUTH and yall sound like a bunch o house ni**as...talking about he should shut up! once they found old tapes of rev wright, i knew this story wasn't leaving. the real issue to watch is Obama denouncing any & everything that can prevent him from winning. he denounced rev wright, didnt say much about sean bell verdict, and prolly will denounce his wife if he has to...should he really represent us???

Rev. Wright seems to think that his disclaimer charging that he's not speaking for Obama is enough to keep the heat off of Obama.
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But what's even more upsetting to me, is that it was Rev. Wright's generation who dropped the ball on us and tried to hand over our issues to the government to handle after MLK was assisnated. Now they're back with their half baked, out-dated, out-of-touch, loud mouthed militant egotistical approaches killing the chances of a real black leader to get into office.
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The older generation wants to look at us as the fuck-ups but we're only a product of the environment that they buit for us. We need NEW LEADERSHIP and Obama as president could do what the Rev. Wright's haven't been able to do for the past 40 years and that is bridge the racial gap, unify, educate and motivate blacks to help themselves.

America has come a long way but it is quite clear that more work is ahead of us as a nation. This is an amazing time in the history of our nation period. You have a woman, and a black man who are both viable candidates for the presidency. Take sometime and look at the bigger picture here. Look past the nonsense. Reject the ignorance. Embrace the truth.. Damn!!

I think this whole charade really does display a few things about "American" culture. The majority of things Wright said are undoubtedly true. The corporate media seems to always get "offended" when someone states things that are, what I believe, invariably true. The US has been perpetrating acts of terror around the globe for decades on end. The US did make black people suffer through the Tuskegee experiments. 9/11 was clearly "chickens coming home to roost," or as intellectuals call it now a days, "blowback."

However, this has made some things clear about Obama. He obviously doesn't want to be labeled, or designated, as "too" black. He wants to became a part, or the face, of the political elite, the mainstream, in America. However, he has found himself in an odd position. If he completely distances himself from Wright, and some statements that are clearly true, then he will become a "politician" rather than a "black leader." It is clear he already chose his path. After the Sean Bell verdict he claimed said that the law should be respected. That statement obviously goes radically against black American opinion. His foreign policy is clear too. He won't talk to Hamas, he condemns Chavez, he sees Iran as some kind of "threat," and he wants to heighten "American credibility:" which is a euphemism for dominance.

I guess, the crux of what I am saying, is that black America would be deluding ourselves if we think Obama is some shining hope. He is a politician first and foremost, not a revolutionary, and definitely not a person who is promulgating bright new ideas for the future. He obviously would be better than McCain and Clinton, but don't expect much of anything.

FUK OBAMA! THAT COON ASS! HE TURN HIS BACK ON THE REV AND THE MINISTER! GO MC CAIN!!

Half of you blacks up here sound stupid and don't have an education. I don't care what happens, Obama is black and I want him as President. Wright's statements would have been more powerful after Obama is elected. Now, the media will just make him look crazy. Trust me Obama's wife majored in African American Studies, something most of you all need to study. They know what time it is, some times you have to play their games to win.

Wake Up says...
You ain't never lied. Even though some of the things that Rev Wright said are true, he should have just keept his mouth shut or at least just told people to judge him from his whole sermon not just sound bites.

What good is it to have a black president if he is afraid to speak his mind about some of amerikkka's MAJOR issues??? come on now be real...police brutality has plagued the black commnuity for DECADES! there have been thousands of sean bells in every major city in amerikkka. yet Obama didnt feel the need to say more about the sean bell verdict. this bothers me because he is cleary so busy tryin to please white amerikkka, that he is actually turning his back on black america....maybe u should "wake up." at what point should he stop "playin their game?" fyi - just cause someone has a degree in african american studies doesnt mean that they cant be "$bought." Obama is the best candidate, true indeed, but that doesnt mean very much...hopefully a black kid is keeppin tabs on what not to do if he runs for prez one day....dont EVER turn ur back on ur people for MORE VOTES!:(

I have begun to sees cary ignorance. IM VOITING CLINTON YOU SHOULD TOO, you are up there in ignorance. Disrespect Farrakhan? There isn't a thing you can do that could disrespect him further than his dispicable ass has already done for himself. Black leaders? Why not just leaders? Not everybody black is the same why should they be "led" by the same person? Farrakhan still backs Obama, and yet you're going to vote for Hillary. The greatest changes and reforms weren't because of militant leaders, the people behind them were peaceful and diplomatic. I actually do believe that Hillary is the worst candidate left, her campaign is dispicable and frankly her policies will mess the country up, and some people think it is bad now. Other countries can afford health care because they only cover the cost of manufacturing and shipping. Americans need to cover the
The answer is simple, we need a president that will limit the intervention of the government into the lives of the citizens. The so-called "Social Reforms" like welfare and social security are reasons that our country is messed up. The best role a government can play is slim to none. The civil rights march would never have had to be if it weren't for government intervention, Who passed the Jim Crow laws? Somewhat experimental medicines cannot be used to try to treat (even with the consent of the patient) terminal patients, medical breakthroughs are held back by the FDA. You think oil is bad now? At least we have oil at every gas station, under Jimmy Carter in the oil crises large sections of cities were oil less. If the government had never regulated the oil industry, oil shortages would not have been. If the price of a product is forced to stay low by the government what's gonna happen when the supply is low? We found out under the Carter administration. Even minimum wage can be argued against, if the wages of a certain company are too low to work for, nobody will work there. Eventually the wages will rise, and if workers are efficient they won't stay under low wages because they'd move to a place willing to pay more. Even the Great Depression was caused by government intervention, as the economy was entering a recession (which is natural given the economy will have ups and downs) Hoover decided to raise income taxes, exactly what Hillary and Obama want to do. Truthfully I feel FDR was one of the worst presidents of all time, he was lucky because the war was the real cause to pull the nation out of the depression (not the new deal). FDR put regulations on businesses forcing them to work for the nation (fascism?). The truth is Free-Market is the best system, and not just a free market economy, but a free market society. Almost everything should be legal as long as it doesn't impede on the force of another. Competition stimulated by Free-Market is how advances are made, we don't need militancy we need logic. The revolution should be intellectual not violent.

Hey yo! Shut your friggin filthy mouth! Don't you see that everybody is using the media to put spin on things....so why don't you start spinning and stop adding to the shit the so called mainstream media keeps try'n to do! Start spinning negros, start mutha f'n spinnin

note from biko: define spin... I want some real talk.
come to this blog for real talk.

i really don't understand why would any sensible black person would vote for hillary clinton? i mean what has she done for the low income families in new york she is a true elitist . she is all about profit and power . i mean this might be the final time for a person of color could be in control of the oval office .get off of that uncle tom mentality that the clintons are for helping blacks or the poor. allowing corperate companies "nafta" to shift to to shift to foriegn countries for cheap labor and less profit . bill clintons administrated the 3rd strike law which statutes majority penalties towards minorities . ever since the clintons develope a office in harlem the real estate sky rocketed , which allow previleged folks to moved in and evicted alot of black low income families homeless and manifisted the renaissance of the elitist condo lifestlye who was only provoke to move uptown due the 911 scare

@ASDF

After reading a few of your lasts posts, albeit a little late, I felt that someone had to address all of the libertarian capitalism you have been espousing. But first I want to state where I think I agree... to a point.

I agree that "black leaders" are not what we should be searching for. The whole notion of "leadership" I think needs to be challenged. It assumes that people can't control their own lives without being "led," which I think is incorrect. On the other hand, groups that are traditionally alienated and marginalized can benefit from having honest people stand up. It is beneficial to have people who willingly stand up and fight against oppression; particularly if you can relate to one another. So someone like say Chomsky, isn't going to have the same effect as Malcolm X. But they are both important in their own ways.

However, you keep advocating for unbridled capitalism, as if that is actually desirable in anyway. You say that minimal government is necessary. I personally believe that no centralized government should be what we are trying to achieve; however, in trying to achieve that I don't think that people should advocate cutting the few programs that actually do sustain a lot of people. "Welfare and social security" aren't the "reasons" the country is in the state its in today. Those programs, while radically flawed, are the closest things this country has (at least institutionally) that actually help to create different values. Those programs operate under the assumption that assisting others -- the poor and the old -- has a great social function. Furthermore, people who tend to argue that these programs should be cut rarely ever address government subsidies to huge corporations. That IS a welfare check and those checks are way larger than what the government gives to the poor. When people focus on cutting the few programs for the poor and not for these subsidies, it leads me to believe that there is actually an underlying motive, and not any concrete theoretical argument.

Your argument about minimum wage being abolished is another case in point. This argument is enforced by a few assumptions that are fundamentally flawed, and furthermore, could not even exist in any real sense.Wage labor is not a "free contract" in any real way. Workers are "owned" in these jobs they are not free in any real sense. This doctrine advocates a notion of personal liberty OUTSIDE of the workplace. Inside it the individual loses complete personal control over their lives. The individual has little control over anything in their day to day lives and are owned by the boss. There is no reason allowing this to continue unfettered would create a "free society": it would create endless insurrections and violence, as has happened throughout much of the world's violent labor history.

The counter argument usually states that people are free to work where they want and if they don't like their job they are free to leave but this is simply false. You are leaving your job essentially with a gun at your head: i.e. work or don't feed your children. One historian, Yann Moulier Boutang, has argued that the history of capitalism has actually been a series of attempts to eliminate worker mobility; hence the creation of indentured servitude, slavery, contract workers, guest workers, wage workers, border controls. If this system ever came close to its ideal fantasy version of itself the world would be trapped in innumerable insurrections and, if people could just flee at will all industry would collapse. People could endless search for new options so most industry would collapse rather rapidly.

Your statement about the Great Depression being caused by the government intervention is absurd. It was caused more by unregulated capital and speculation not by government subsidy. But I'll leave that alone because it is too outlandish.

Lastly, when you write that "Almost everything should be legal as long as it doesn't impede on the force of another," you are on to something. However, this alleged "free market" reasoning does not imply that. The free market implies extreme hierarchy and fundamentally a human existence completely dictated by force. If a person has control, and OWNS another, as any worker/boss relationship does then how can that be considered free? People will only be freer when we begin to eliminate predatory forms of domination, which is what the "free" market is.

I would also like to state that the notion of the "market" in itself needs to be critiqued because it is an imagined form of human relations that rests on various assumptions that also should be challenged and are not fundamental to human existence. And if we want to get serious, this notion of the "free market": the history actually stems from early labor contracts based on slavery. Capitalism is essentially a newer fine-tuned form of slavery: instead of people selling or renting us out we rent ourselves out. But the arrangement is basically the same.

What this really addresses is notions of "value" and "values" and the creation of social relations. And the kind of relations you are promulgating will create a competitive, greedy society which I don't think is feasible or desired by most people.

well, you can always count on another brother to mess things up for a brother. the white folks are riding with barack and now everyone is focusing on rev. wright. i guess its true for all things that blacks dont like to see other blacks progress. the unity that could come about with history being made scares some black people. its like the justice system knows us so well. we give temporary responses to permanent problems.

I agree that wright needs to shut up but is it to anybody's surprise that CNN actually played Rev. Wrights hole speach. I mean think about this WHen have you seen a NAACP lunchon speech on CNN. The media is turning Rev. Wright into Obama's Campaign Manager. America is shady as hell because deep down inside "Black people" agree with alot of what Wright said I know I do. He aint sayin nothing that we don't know. It is bad timing. But this is a clear example of the double standard of being black......we gotta explain every thing.

Obama's successful presidential run has been a direct result of his ability to unite ALL people! I find it totally disgusting that Rev. Wright, a self-proclaimed man of God wants to initiate a hate spewing divisive confrontation that we are doomed to loose. If nothing else, history has shown us that the militant approach is NOT the way! Martin Luther King Jr. was the last black leader to ever command enough respect and attention from ALL people to actually be heard. And it was because of his peaceful, forgiving, and progressive tactics. The all-up-in-ya-face, tellin it like it is (or we think it is) bull dozer approaches only spark more tension, brand us as angry and aggressive animals, and ultimately gets us ignored. WAKE UP people!!! Its been 40 years!!! and all of our yelling, screaming, fingerpointeing, and spazzing out has gotten us ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE!!

note from biko: listen to MLK's beyond vietnam speech....it's quite gangsta. a lot of his rhetoric was similar to rev wright's

For Resist, I don't support unbridled capitalism just a little less tweaked than what we have. I forgot to explain what I really felt about social security and welfare. Social security is good for the not so large percentage that need it (probably in the single digits), but for those who don't need it social security is a waste of the tax payers' money. Welfare although ideally not such a bad thing is too flawed. Given that we are a capitalist nation, capital is necessary in order to really move through income levels, so the people who don't have any capital should be given a chance with some, but monthly payments aren't the answer. One decently large payment to allow the person to invest and prosper is what makes sense because if they fail because they are poor at managing their money, why should they be given more money to be wasted on them? Of course there are going to be some people that lose, because there are people who win but more people would be successful than people would completely lose; as opposed to communism where the leaders are the only ones who win and the everybody else loses.
True that the philosophy to abolish minnimum wage to rely on assumptions but they are not as farfetched as you make them seem. Unions could still exist and as a result, unions could force companies to hire their members at a rate that is reasonable, there is no need for the government to intervene on transactions like that. Minimum wage should not be set by law it should be agreed upon between workers (and unions) and employers.
The Great Depression was in fact caused by government intervention (contrary to popular belief). True the market was down due to natural causes at first (banks giving out easy loans and buying on margin, etc.) but instead of letting the market fix itself and learn from its mistakes (i.e. not giving out easy loans, not creating a glut in products, etc.) the government intervened and exacerbated the problem and escalated a bad market into a depression. If the Federal Reserve had been able to lower interest rates instead of increasing them the problem would not have been as extreme, (but the Federal Reserve wasn't a necessity, without the Federal Reserve the economic problems would not have turned into the depression). Monetary Contraction was the policy that truly screwed the economy. However, the Federal Reserve cannot take all the blame because even if they wanted to do the right thing and lower interest rates, the gold standard we were on would not allow it. The gold standard was Cleveland's government intervention and attempt to control the economy. The Federal Reserve was another attempt to control the economy but this time under Wilson. Had these to interventions not been made then the depression would have been simply a recession.
Lastly Free-Market does not imply hierarchy, and employers don't own employees. Employees sign a contract that states that for their services they will receive compensation (in the form of currency). Employees don't need to work for one certain employer they can make the decision of which employer they want to work for (it may be the same job but one might pay more than the other). If every employer had unreasonable wages then strikes would be put into effect by the pool of people who would potentially be the employees. And if not all but some of the companies have unreasonable wages, then nobody would work for them and instead would go work for companies with reasonable wages.
I'm not trying to promote "value" vs. "values" I'm just saying that it should not be the government that decides what the balance is. True that a possible side-effect would be a greedy society, but don't we have that now? I would argue that more often than not when people reach a certain point philanthropy becomes routine (Carnegie, Rockefeller, Gates, etc.). The thing is these people to give directly to the people; they don't climb the ladder for the people, they give them the rungs to climb the ladder for themselves. If that doesn't reach everybody, maybe religion will: doesn't Jesus advocate teaching a man how to fish, instead of giving him a fish. Our system now provides dinner for one night, the system should provide people with the ability to provide their own dinners every night. As for competition in society, that is a good thing. Competition leads to efficiency. If companies within the automotive industry weren't competing, we would be still driving model t's. Advancements are side-effects of competition between parties. Even prehistorically if the first farmers had been easily and efficiently fed by means of hunting and gathering, do you think they would have farmed? Do you think prices for certain necessary goods would be as low as they are if people only had one option to choose from? Advancements are made because of a competition and a lack of efficiency, if everything was perfect we wouldn't need the advancements... not everything is perfect, we still NEED competition.