
Celeste Fermon over at HuffingtonPost.com is reporting that Hillary Clinton went into a bit of an anti-activist tirad several weeks back at a close door fundraiser. She specifically took aim at MoveOn.org, an online advocacy platform with over 3 million members. Apparently, Clinton was a little salty that MoveOn and other progressive activists threw their support behind Barack Obama so early in the campaign. AUDIO HERE
"Moveon.org endorsed [Sen. Barack Obama] -- which is like a gusher of money that never seems to slow down," Clinton said to a meeting of donors. "We have been less successful in caucuses because it brings out the activist base of the Democratic Party. MoveOn didn't even want us to go into Afghanistan. I mean, that's what we're dealing with. And you know they turn out in great numbers. And they are very driven by their view of our positions, and it's primarily national security and foreign policy that drives them. I don't agree with them. They know I don't agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who actually show up to support me."
Yeah, Schmillary fucked up real good now. The money and ads will rain down on her like a ton of bricks. But, we are talking about the Clintons. Don't get too comfortable with the current situation. The Clintons will pull absolutely no punches to get to the goal line. Look what happened at the Pennsylvania debates.....Clinton got her two pitbulls to damn near rip Brotha Barack a new one.....on national TV.
And speaking of the debates, Brotha Barack looked real stupid up there. And he looked like a real punk with all of his whinning afterward. If the man can't handle a debate, how will he be able to handle real-world situations? Talking about he don't wanna do anymore debates. Hey, that's cool. But when political and world leaders are put put put putting pressure on him, he can't pick up his ball and go home. It don't work like that.
And to all who say Rev Wright, bittergate, and Brotha Barack's ties to a CONFESSED terrorist are trivial, think back to when FOX NEWS broke the story of Bush having a DUI MUCHO years ago. You are are still on that bandwagon.
@Trademark(TM)
You shouldn't make allegations and then not back them up with credible evidence.You said Obama has ties to a CONFESSED terrorist! Who? That's straight propaganda right there! If Obama had ties to a terrorist it would have been leaked by now and the backlash would have been bigger that the Rev.Wright fiasco! Get your facts right!
I understand Obama's situation.Hilliary from what i gathered from the debates, was beating a dead horse! The Rev.Wright situation didn't even dent Obama's campaign and she was still trying to make it a relevant issue!
She plays dirty and Obama isn't about that! She has (waaay) more "dirt" on her than him and his campaign still hasn't stooped to dirty politics.
No one cares about "trivial issues" like he said.We want to know about "real issues" such as how they plan to fix this economy,jobs, gas prices, Iraq, New Orleans, etc...
Hilliary has lost and she should just throw in the towel but she's hasn't and doesn't plan on doing so! She's just going to play "spoiler" for Obama and not gracefully bow out,which will drag the race on until the Democratic party national convention, and then when she finally looses, it will be damn near too late for Obama to catch up with McCain who is already has a head start.
The bitch(sic) is quite stupid and arrogant because the majority of Americans polled don't even like her or trust her! Statistically she can't win!The only way she can pull this thing off is to fight dirty and that isn't even working.She just can win a state! She has to totally dominate the primaries and she isn't!
So she is the one whose bitter and now all of a sudden Obama, who grew up in one of the poorest nations ever(Indonesia)with no father, is an elitist.LMAO!
It might a little easier to "focus on the issues" if Obama would take a clear stance on the issues and state exactly what is it he plans to do. I've watched the majority of the debates and I only have a vague idea of what Obama plans to do once he gets in office. It's one thing to tell people what you want to do, but I need to hear how he plans to do those things. Congress isn't going to submit to Obama just because he's president. There are no Jedi mind tricks on Capital Hill. Hillary Clinton has stated several time how she plans to turn our economy around and how she plans to end this war. Hate her if you want to, but she's put her plans on the table. If she's able to achieve a faction of things she has planned, I don't have problem with her methods of getting in the white house. If Obama can't deal with the pressure from Clinton, what is he gonna do when McCain comes down hard? Don't delude yourself to believe that McCain's attacks won't make any difference. The general election is a whole different ball game. The favoritism for Obama in the media will soon fade. From where I'm sitting, I don't think he'll handle that well. The bottom line is people are in need. It doesn't matter how the game is played. This country as a whole needs to win. We can't afford to gamble with right now.
@El Negro
Um.....Brotha Barack has ties to confessed domestic terrorist Bill Ayers. Who with the Weather Underground bombed the Capitol building, the Pentagon, and the State Department building.....among other buildings. Just Googlle "William Ayers".
Don't get mad st me because Brothe Barack is looking like a real pussy because he won't anwser these things that question his judgement. And the Dems through Pennsylvania have had 21 debates to talk about the "issues". So, Brotha Barack may be just as bad as Dubala if he couldn't get his point across by the 21st debate.
El negro, trademark was refering to mr. Ayers.
Hillary lost the nomination when she let her husband make those remarks in SC. Right now she is lingering in limbo.
Obama 4 prez.
Side Q: if hillary has all this money (fiddy mill and change), how come she still can't pay her debts in a timely manner? Her supporters are getting PLAYED big time
I watched a dvd about the weathermen (thanks biko) several years ago and I thought that they were off the chain. Instead of talking about Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers talk about why the group (weathermen) was formed and how the United States Gov. murdered black leaders (king,fred,medgar,) and illegaly wiretapped king,X,panthers in fear of a Black (Wallstreet) Nation within a naition. HRC or Bush is like saying gas chamber or electric chair.. Wake up people Chi Town just had 28 shootings in less than 72 hours over 20,000 homicides in inner cities since the start of the war in Iraq and I don't hear Obama or HBC giving a rats ass about that.
I know we are not talking about bad judgement when Hillary voted for a war that is causing the downfall of our economy and refuses to acknowledge her mistakes. Barack has ties to Bill Ayers the same way the Clintons have ties to Rev. Wright. Its all bullshit. If u really wanna play tit for tat bill clinton and hillary clinton come from racisit families, diane rodham(hillary clinton's mother) voted against the civil rights act and bill has ties to a very known racist(goggle it) so I guess black people have been fooled into voting for them since '92.
ya'll niggaz be killin me with this "BROTHA" barack shit... This pawn doesn't care about the struggle, you uncle tom... That nigga aint never even been in the struggle.... Ya'll are under Baracks spell for real.. Misguided and miseducated..
@Trademark
It is really beyond stupid to even say that Ayers was a "terrorist". There is a normal definition of a terrorist -- not in international law but domestic -- and he does not fit it. Ayers, and the Weather Underground bombed US government targets, but they NEVER killed, or even injured anyone except for themselves. They INTENTIONALLY did not hurt anyone. To be a terrorist you have to attempt to kill, or maim, people for political coercion and they did not do that.
Then to say Obama has "ties" to him is ridiculous. The man is a professor in Chicago, and a popular community activist. This man hasn't even taken part in radical politics since the 1970's. And Obama and him sat on a board together. You are insinuating that they were out scheming about planting bombs together, or that this man is some danger to society.
Then if you want to get serious, why not mention Bush's meetings with the Taliban in the late 90's? Or Hillary's husband pardoning people who were convicted in Weather Underground bombings? Or McCain's active personal participation in carpet bombing defenseless Vietnamese villages?
These are all distraction from real issues and if you want to use Fox News talking points in a debate nobody is going to take you seriously.
@Resist
At least 2 cops were killed thanks to the Weather Undergroung. So.
Bottom line, it's trivial for us to be talking about Brotha Barack's "shady" associations. Most of you have CLEARLY made up your minds to vote for Brotha Barack. But this subject does mean something to undecided voters, voters on the fence one way or the other, WHITE voters who are thinking about voting for a BLACK man, and voters who think past associations count for something. Like I said before, don't get mad at me because Brotha Barack, as the days go by, is looking more and more like a common politician. Instead of Brotha Barack side-stepping his past and current associations, he should have just got as far away as possible from these people.
When I look at the Obama machine, I see a machine that has major problems. I truly think that Brotha Barack is handing the presidency to McCain on a silver platter. Instead of getting mad at me, maybe you should try to contact Brotha Barack and offer him some political advice.
Enoch....you're a idoit....If not Obama then who? Lying ass Hillary? You think she can better relate to thinga that are going to affect young black urban boys in the future. Or maybe you think the Republicans would be better! I tell you boy crabs in a barrel...
I don't give a rat's ass about the "struggle" I just want to keep my job, and hope it doesn't get sent overseas. I wan't cheaper gas!!! I want to see the troops come home...should I continue?
@ earhustla:
was medger really a black leader? Isn't this the same kid who was lynched and beaten for no reason?
Nevermind, I was thinking of someone else.