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Jeff Chang: Why Do We Love Writing About Hip-hop?

Hey Tamara,

Hope all is well, the book is blowing up, and the weather is good on your side of the Bay!

Getting a chance to link up back with you within the blog fishbowl is a pretty cool thing. And I know it's going to be a really interesting conversation because we've been asked to talk about hip-hop history.

Now this is funny to me in some ways. We're both Left Coasters--and Bay Area partisans, at that. (Representing the blue and gold and the green and gold and the paying side of the Bay Bridge, which I'm always gonna be bitter about...) So it's strange that I'd go and do a history that falls in love with the Bronx, Long Island, Watts, DC, and many other places--but makes little mention of the Yay, the place where I actually chose to put down some roots--and that you're doing the history of the Dirrrty. To take it further, I grew up on an island in the Pacific.

Hip-hop is often so much about representing where you're from and who you are. I guess a great place to start this conversation is: what in the world possessed us to think we could do what we did?

Clearly part of the answer is in how the culture has affected us.

Like Danyel, I came of age during the 80s, for better and for worse. I think it was Greg Tate who once pointed out that there's a group of writers born in the late 60s and early 70s for whom hip-hop was ideology and religion, and so therefore, liberation and salvation, all rolled into one. (Well, maybe he didn't really say it like that, but that's how I took it!) It's interesting how much in our writings many of us have emphasized **the struggle**--it goes with the idea that hip-hop actually transformed and continues to **transform lives**. We imbue hip-hop with a lot of--perhaps too much--weight.

And if I'm saying something that sounds obvious, it's only because I know that there are many hip-hop journalists who don't believe that aspect of the culture is important at all, that the pleasure is enough. Now, hip-hop was always about pleasure. Pain by itself isn't something you can move masses of people to do much with, whether it be to stop a prison from being built, or to part ways with their hard-earned Jacksons. I would be the last to deny that there is something beautiful in being able to debate the merits of one rapper against the other all night long with another head. But I guess I'm saying that when Hashim asked us to talk about hip-hop history, I immediately thought about what **kind** of hip-hop history we were writing.

Anyway, so let me start by asking you this: how did hip-hop change your life and what made you want to write about it the way that you do?

Looking forward to this conversation!

Peace,

Jeff

Comments

I wouldnt call a bunch of "RAP Music Reviewers" ,Hip Hop Journalists

I believe a lot of you are just looking for something to make a living off of & to identify with . . aka Followers . . aka Biters (80's Style)

Ask Yourself Would you do this if there was NO Money IN IT ! Really think about that one.

Plus the fact that many of you are in the Gay Mafia & your reviews reflect it by your LOVE & CONSTANT praise of COMMON

If all of a sudden COMMON or Jay-Z Came out of the closet how many would follow

RAP is not HipHop , But theres HipHop in RAP. Get it In YOUR HEAD

Rap is Hip Hop you pussy clot because both came out of the struggles of the late sixties and seventies with the making of the Last Poets and the merging of underground movement with Blow Fly. In fact he was the first to put profane language to music and "rap" over it! Hip Hop came from "Be Bop" in which any black person should know this... if not then YOU should be the one to do the knowledge and stop shittin' on other folks profession you asshole!

why would you have to be in the gay mafia to like the idea of somebody rappin about things other how much money they have and some stripper at da club?

(Andre BIGBOY)
Its the OVERABUNDANCE of praise & utter disdain for anything NOT soft and mushy & NEO SOUL!

I like Commons new album. But DAM

(Cutty)
RAP is NOT HipHop ! RAP is Business !

Making Money writing about RAP is a BUSINESS !

HipHop is a FREE Culture that you dont have to BUY INTO to be a part of it

And if you disagree with that , then I know what im dealing with .

Theres nothing wrong with disagreeing

diggiti...maybe i'm misunderstanding you, but you don't have to pay to spit on the corner or in the house with your boys or girls. that's rappin. started with louis armstrong and prison raps in my opinion. rapping is one of many facets of hiphop...I thought everybody knew this. you can't just get up and be like "aight yo, i'm about to hip hop" but you can say "i'm gonna rap" or whatever...so to me rap does not just equal business...

anyway, about making money writing about rap. or other facets of hip hop. why not? others are gonna write about it that aren't fans, or are clueless about the culture, so why shouldn't folks who really LOVE the culture write about it?

writing takes a great deal of research at times and attention to detail, but at the same time bills gotta be paid. in my opinion, it is the LACK of paying in hip hop journalism that is seriously hurting the culture.

when you PAY for anything, you expect quality. hence, if all hip hop writers were paid, more time and effort could be spent into exploring many different aspects of the culture, instead of writers basically re-writing stories by other writers.

Heres the deal . . .

Would Timbaland still make beats even though nobody would hear them? I believe So. The dude likes making beats

Would Dre ? probably

Would REDMAN Still Rap around the way? Thats a Yes

Would you write about HIP HOP or call yourself a Hip Hop Journalist?
I truly dont think So

Im quoting you . . . .

. . . if all hip hop writers were paid, more time and effort could be spent into exploring many different aspects of the culture, instead of writers basically re-writing stories by other writers. . .

Theres my Point


The ( conscious side of the hip-hop generation ) IS only Concious of the Music thats paying them

Those other aspects just dont matter to you WRITERS unless theres a check in it

Rock Steady had a big anniversary . . .

Graffiti Artists are blowing up like never before . . .

DJ Jazzy Jay still Djaying

How about wrinting about the CULTURE !
Im not a writer !

Im a a BEATMAKER !
And ILL ALWAY BE ONE ! PAID OR NOT

thx for the time, The forum. I respect all Intelligent Comments

Yeah, if hip hop journalism wanted some respect, why didn't anyone really delve into the Biggie/Tupac shit. Everyone's all crying and patting eachother on the shoulder when we got these so called reporters and journalists who aren't doing shit to find any info out. I guess that leave that type stuff with the real journalists working the real networks. I see hip hop journalism as a bunch of dudes and chicks standing around waiting for something to happen so they can be the first to print about it in their magazine. I wanna hear a fucking story about DJ Premier and the process he goes through to make the beats, I wanna know what Muggs did before Cypress Hill. What's Ultramagnetic's other members doing these days.. I know, those articles won't sell magazines--and that's exactly my point--

Jeff Chang is right on point, but if one understands the roots of rap and hip-hop as well as reggae, one has to go back to the Jamaican roots ( see http://community.webtv.net/pabarton ) and the African roots before.

Now as far as I am concerned, Chang fits very well as a hip-hop commentator and that has to do with a history that many of us in the US (except Caribbean people ) are not aware of.

In Jamaica, rap/hip-hop began when top djays began to use African-American and Jamaican music "versions" (the instrumental side of the singles) to do freestyle rapping and toasting at dancehalls and clubs.

Many early Black rhythm and blues records were 'scatalized' and 'reggaeized' during the sixties and seventies. At that time, DJ'S like I-Roy, U-Roy and others began toasting and rapping big time.

At the same time, reggae artists and producers like Jimmy Cliff, Byron Lee and the Dragoneers, Desmond Dekker, Toots and the Maytals, the Kong Brothers, the Chin Brothers (among many Jamaican-Chinese in reggae), Bob Marley and the Wailers, the duo Sly and Robbie Shakespeare, began to produce and establish the foundation of what would be the type reggae that exploded in the US during the 1980's.

Would a guy named Chang come out of the early writing, producing, singing and playing of reggae, dancehall, toasting and the forerunners of rap/hip-hop? Of course.

We fail to realize that there is a history in the Caribbean, Cuba, Jamaica, Brazil, Surinam of African, Chinese, Japanese, East Indian cultural co-existence.

Why would a Japanese of Brazil living in L.A. love the African martial art of Angolan-Congo origins called Capoiera ( see http://community.webtv.net/nubianem2 www.planetcapoiera.com www.planetcapoeira.com )

Why would many of us (Aframs) love Asian martial arts?

Because humans appreciate culture and humans love to be part of culture. That's why.

Yet in some regions, like Sudan, culture is being destroyed because culture helps to keep people united and find common ground. See www.sudanforum.com An establishment that wants all of us to think the same and do the same things, worship the same way is an establishment that will foreover control us, as we see is the case in places like Sudan. Hip-hop culture helps us express our outer and inner selves. As one who writes on hip-hop issues, Jeff Chang and many others are expressing their true love and appreciation for hip-hop by contributing to it in a positive manner.

In fact, Jeff Chang's latest work is proof of that and whether one is Nigerian or African-American or Chinese hip-hopper, one notices that contribution. As one who began writing at fifteen both on music and on culture, contributing to hip-hop social issues as well as poetry, spoken-word was a natural transition, see, "Rap, Rhyme and Rhythm: Rapsody in Hip-Hop, Rhythm and Rhyme," pub. by AuthorHouse, 1663 Liberty Drive, Suite 200, Bloomington, Indiana 47403 USA, www.AuthorHouse.com
http://community.webtv.net/pabarton


Jeff Chang is right at home being part of the hip-hop scene. Jeff Chang may not even know but the Kongs, Chins, Lees of Jamaica and the Afro-Jamaicans all put their talents together to produce and create some of the best reggae, dancehall, toasting and calypso heard on the radio since the 1960's.

Furthermore, many Chinese in the Caribbean arrived to these areas in the same way many of our ancestors arrived. They were 'impressed' and kidnapped by the British and other Europeans and sold into slavery or indentureship and did hard time on the sugarcane fields of the Caribbean and South America after the Africans began to rebel and destroy the system.

Finally, let's say some of the well-known producers of reggae, calypso, dancehall and toasting in Jamaica are people who love the music and culture like Chang.

I didn't want to go there, but I had to.

nubianem@webtv.net

So, Jeff Chang is in the mix.

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