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Yeah Oprah should accept the fact that hip hop is taking over and so is hi- fli tones.

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Even if Oprah doesn't like HipHop, so what, neither most people's Moms who are about that age. She didn't grow with it and can't relate to it. And the way artist have been lately, I can't always feel it myself, and I do hiphop. Oprah is a big paper maker who can have a positive or negative impact on hiphops future. Why give her a reason to go against it. The Media loves black against black. Why fuel that?

This issue works two ways:
1) Okrah underestimated the power of our culture and now she's gonna hear our side of the story. She asked for it by "insulting" our collective inteligence and sensibility. Hopefully, she'll be shown the intelligence, passion and tenacity of the Hip-Hop culture.
2) Thw "mainstream"(read: white) media picked up on this can't wait to exploit Black folks tearing each other down. No matter what Oprah, Bill Cosby, Michael Jackson or any othe "socially race-less" celebrity thinks, when the shit hits the fan, they are still "Ni&&ers", and the media LOVES to sit on the sideline and fan the flames of conflict. I just hope some real dialog comes out of this and the people who don't "get" our culture gains enough undertanding so that they know better that to recklessly comment about it.

whoever wrote this shyt needs to quit bein a scared nigga fo real. **NEWSFLASH** hIP HOP AS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT SAYIN WHAT YOU NEED TO SAY! FUCK KEEP IT IN THE LOCKER ROOM! IF YOU SEE ONE OF OUR SUPPOSED OWN DOIN OUR PEOPLE DIRTY BLOW THA MUFUKIN WISTLE NIGGA! SO I GUESS NIGGAS SHOULDN'T SAY SHIT ABOUT GEORGE BUSH EITHER NOW BECAUSE OOHHH HE GOT THE MEDIA BACKIN HIM TOO?? NIGGA PLEASE! AH LUDA I'MMA TELL YA LIKE PAS TOLD SHOCK: LET DEM HOES KNOW!

yeah this is aboutb to blow up in the wrong way. niggas like bill o'reilly are gonna do everything to make oprah look better and to make hip hop look worse, i can understand y luda has a problem and cube too, but muhfuccas love oprah more than they do us. cube and luda have ligitimate beef, 50 and killer mike hav no business sayng anything. they are making the situtaion worse. we dont need oprah, and oprah doesnt need us, but don make the situation worse.

and i dont wanna all that oprah is right and were wrong bullshit. everyone even the almighty oprah is in the wrong. A lesson to everyone involved:

RAPPERS PLEASE HUSH! EVEN THOUGH UR BEEF IS LEGIT, THIS IS A BATTLE HIP HOP WONT WIN, IN THE MEDIA'S EYES OPRAH CAN DO NO WRONG AND THEY WILL PORTARY US AS IGNORANT LOWLIFES ON A MISSION TO SMERE THE NAME OF A PERSON THEY BELIVE THAT WE SHOULD BE LIKE AND LOOK UP TO (WHICH IS WRONG). SO FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CULTURE AND OUR MUSIC PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS WOMAN!
AND TO MRS. CELY, QUIT PURPOTRATING LIKE U KNOW BOUT HIP HOP CAUSE U DONT! UR MUSIC IS A BEAUTIFUL FORM OF EXPRESSION, U SEE A IMAGE THE MEDIA AND THE RECORD LABELS WANT U TO SEE. AND STOP CONTRICDICTNG UR STATEMENTS. HOW CAN U AY THAT U DONT LIKE RAPPERS WHO DEGRADE AND BELITTLE WOMEN BUT U HAVE 50 CENT AND JAY-Z IN YOUR IPOD? WE DONT BELIVE YOU. YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE.

LIKE** PAC TOLD SHOCK (G)

I agree with SOHH Southern, we(blacks) all lose if HipHop and Oprah go to war with each other...the biggest loser would be hiphop...With a billion dollars comes a billion dollars worth of influence...She can close doors on our culture that we didn't even know existed...She also has a tremendous amount of influence on her audience...That audience is probably the ones supplying the money to their kids to buy the albums...It could get ugly for hiphop

"the media loves black on black. Why fuel that"

Well said Dawg...well said.

OPrah for Presisent 2008!!!

WHAT IS OPRAH GONNA DO THOUGH??
FOR REALL.. WHAT WILL SHE DO??
NOT A GODDD DANG THING!!!!!!!!!!!
THE SAME REASON WHY SHE DONT INVITE RAPPERS IS THE SAME REASON WHY SHE CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.. SHE WILL ALWAYS HAVE AN AUDIENCE... BUT THAT VERY SAME AUDIENCE ARE LIKE.. COUCH POTATOES.. NOT ONLY THAT. THEY ARE OLD WHITE WOMEN.. WHAT WILL OPRAH DO.. HAVE THESE OLD WHITE COUCH POTATOES BOYCOTT RAPP?? NAHH... IT MIGHT BOOST RECORD SALES.. BUT THIS ISSUE.. IS NOT AN ISSUE.. ITS ALL BOILS DOWN TO.. HOW CAN I THE RAPPER/MARKETER MARKET MYSELF?

ITS NOT LIKE LUDA OR FIDDY ACTUALLY WATCH OPRAH..LOL
ITS ALL ABOUT.. WHO WANTS TO BE IN THE SPOT LIGHT.. AND WITH ALL THESE OVERSIZED EGOS WILL BUT HEADS A LITTLE..
LUDA IS COOL AND TALENTED.. BUT C'MON.. SHE DONT WANT THAT SHHT ON HER SHOW.. GET REAL

Oprah my girl! Show these crab in the barrell hood niggas what REAL BLACK FOLKS are all about! Fuck the hood nigga! Like them continue to destroy each other.

2) Thw "mainstream"(read: white) media picked up on this can't wait to exploit Black folks tearing each other down. No matter what Oprah, Bill Cosby, Michael Jackson or any othe "socially race-less" celebrity thinks, when the shit hits the fan, they are still "Ni&&ers", and the media LOVES to sit on the sideline and fan the flames of conflict. I just hope some real dialog comes out of this and the people who don't "get" our culture gains enough undertanding so that they know better that to recklessly comment about it.
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Yep, Which is why black folks have been told for years "don't act out in public"...
you know the speech you got from mom dukes on the way to the market when we were kids...I'm not the biggest Oprah fan, but I respect her accomplishments and what she does. So some of this shit is getting out of hand.

But remember, these artists aren't neccessarily coming out, they are asked to comment and those comments are put out there.

killer mike, I respect as an MC, but he's a fuckin idiot for that comment. She just proved her point with his whole statement.

We need to learn as people to settle our shit in house like we used to when we were more community-oriented when WE were all WE HAD...cats get money and leave the circle and tear those they left behind...

and I'll be damned if Oprah is the subject of ANOTHER BLOG on this hip hop site...Now Cube was never on her show because he's known for songs like Bitch iz a Bitch and roles on Boyz n the Hood and Friday to mainstream media, so he should not have expected to come on O's show--Killer Mike...c'mon, cuz!!!!

I'm usually the one defending hip hop in the case of the "oprah is greater than sliced bread" rants of some people. But those hip hop artists need to keep their mouths shut now...white folks hated on the low that O is on top of shit and now have ammo to tear her down.

Plus now people are dry snitchin on Oprah now! Niggas know where she is- get at her, write (which is hard for some hip hop niggas) her a letter like many of her viewers and holla at her...I think she's out of touch with most of the hip hop demographic so she shouldn't comment on hip hop and point fingers, but those in the (hip hop) community shouldn't be running their mouths to white folks either...

the advise of keepin it in the locker room is most definitely out of place hea
i doubt all the fawks who did voice out against her treatment r her friends, if they were it sure would be unfair friendship wise, but since they strangers to each other they don't got to keep they opinion to theyselves or voice that displeasure to her in private, cuz there ain't no situations like that between them

I meant let the crabs in the barrel kill each other off. dead hood niggas = safer America

Yep, Which is why black folks have been told for years "don't act out in public"...
you know the speech you got from mom dukes on the way to the market when we were kids...I'm not the biggest Oprah fan, but I respect her accomplishments and what she does. So some of this shit is getting out of hand.

But remember, these artists aren't neccessarily coming out, they are asked to comment and those comments are put out there.

killer mike, I respect as an MC, but he's a fuckin idiot for that comment. She just proved her point with his whole statement.

We need to learn as people to settle our shit in house like we used to when we were more community-oriented when WE were all WE HAD...cats get money and leave the circle and tear those they left behind...

and I'll be damned if Oprah is the subject of ANOTHER BLOG on this hip hop site...Now Cube was never on her show because he's known for songs like Bitch iz a Bitch and roles on Boyz n the Hood and Friday to mainstream media, so he should not have expected to come on O's show--Killer Mike...c'mon, cuz!!!!

I'm usually the one defending hip hop in the case of the "oprah is greater than sliced bread" rants of some people. But those hip hop artists need to keep their mouths shut now...white folks hated on the low that O is on top of shit and now have ammo to tear her down.

Plus now people are dry snitchin on Oprah now! Niggas know where she is- get at her, write (which is hard for some hip hop niggas) her a letter like many of her viewers and holla at her...I think she's out of touch with most of the hip hop demographic so she shouldn't comment on hip hop and point fingers, but those in the (hip hop) community shouldn't be running their mouths to white folks either...

Posted by: Naj at June 5, 2006 12:15 PM

^^^^
i disagree

Oprah my girl! Show these crab in the barrell hood niggas what REAL BLACK FOLKS are all about! Fuck the hood nigga! Like them continue to destroy each other.

Posted by: Suburbs Nigga at June 5, 2006 12:10 PM

what do u mean by real black people? just because u live in a safe white gated community that mean u better than me. its beacuse of people like you that hip hop is goin after oprah. i dont care how much money you have, how educated u are, or where u live. nobody is better than anyone else. we are all equalm in the eyes of god and he is the only one who can judge anyone. im from the hood, but im goin to college and trying to make somethin of myself. my brother or sister ill pray 4 you.

Why would Oprah shit on her own race?

Why would Ludacris and Ice Cube even speak on this to the media?

What the fuck does Killer Mike and 5-0 have to do with this?

Man this shit is ridiculous. Now if they did edit Luda's responses on her show that shit is wrong, but on the same token Luda shouldn't expect for everthing he says to air that is just a dumb asumption. Now on the real Fiddy is my boy, but I don't know how much more I can take from him. Fidddy chill out nobody wants to hear your ass all the time on every fucking thing. Cube and Killer Mike u really need to shut the fuck up, Luda has a legitimate beef with Oprah now everybody else has something to say, at like men not high school girls gangin up on a old lady its not going to help ur album sales and Fiddy it might hurt yours don't forget that 80% of your fans are white with white parents who watch (u guessed it) Oprah. And u are wrong this will only have a negative impact on hip hop Oprah will be straight because her fans are loyal and won't flip flop on her like rap fans. Rappers stop acting like politicans it's not a good look for yall its just adding to the fall of hip hop.

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-okay...you disagree with everything I write anyway so if I said the sky is blue you'd say I was wrong...right?

I got your answer already:
I disgree

But you'll disagree with that too...

play with that for a while.

So what if Oprah doesn't want hip-hop on her show,does that make her a bad person? No, its her show, she can have who she wanna have on her show. Now think about, most of these rap songs refer to women as bitches,hoes and whatever else; oprah's viewers are mainly women so why would she want anybody that degrades women to be apart of her show. As for hip-hop why do you care if oprah likes you. This is so silly.

HIP HOP will lose if they go after OPRAH she is to good and has a large following ...first of all oprah doesnt have a problem with HIP HOP she has a problem with negative HIP HOP ...the media loves this black on black entertainment out to destroy eachother but oprah wont fall fort it also why would oprah want to have Rappers on her show when they cant even be on radio shows ,clubs or concerts without killing themselves ..lets be for real HIP HOP will lose they already have a bad track record of phony thugs ...this topic is dead leave it alone its stupid and dumb ...when rappers can go on a radio show without drama which will never happen then we will have a topic to discuss oprah has her own talk show ..hip hop has there own talk show the MIC lets keep it that way..DONE no more

Hi I'm hip-hop and I ain't afraid of Oprah at all,

It is freaking amazing how OPRAH is on the SOHH blog every other day!
This whole topic is outdated, recycled and needs an official TIME-OUT!

Do a blog on summer jam...

SO WHY SHOULD WE BE AFFRAID OF OPRAH? IF OPRAH WOULD LOOK AT A PERSON LIKE CUBE AND SEE THE EFFECT AND EVEN THE EFFORT THAT HE HAS PUT INTO HIS WORK, FROM MOVIES TO T.V. TO ENTERTAINMENT THERE WOULD BE NO REASON FOR HER TO THINK HE IS UNABLE TO HOLD A CONVERSATION ON HER SHOW WITHOUT USING BITCH/HOE. BUT DONT THESE BITCHES AND HOES EXIST? WHY DOES OPRAH TRY TO CHANGE THOSE BITCHES? IN MEMPHIS, TN LAST WEEK A YOUNG LADY SOLD HER BABY FOR DRUGS. WHY SHOULDNT WE CALL HER A STUPID BITCH? THESE ARE THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT RAPPERS ARE REFFERING TOO. NOT SOMEONE LIKE OPRAH, SHE ACTS AS IF SOME RAPPER JUST CAME OUT AND SAID GAYLE KING IS A BITCH. THIS JUST GOES TO PROVE THAT NO MATTER HOW FAR WE GET WILLIE LYNCH STILL HAS A STRONG HOLD ON US.

ORAPH vs. HIP HOP, NO ONE CAN STOP IT. LET IT HAPPEN, IT MIT COME OUT TO BE A GOOD THING. Not tryin' to be funny, but people are always complaining about what black folks should and shouldn't do. That don't look good in the media, so what.Take care of your kids. Stop tryin' to make this world a better place. It's not going to happen. Remember when CHRIST come back, that's when everything will be perfect. Intil then this world will always have conflict with each other.

Keeping it in the locker room is exactly what needs to happen in this situation.

"HipHop" needs to pick its battles more wisely.

Why start a fight with Oprah? She's not relevant to the existance or maintenance of hiphop. So what can be accomplished by "exposing" for being a hiphop hater?????? I mean who in her audience really gives a fuck???? they hate it too.

Its going to be almost impossible for ANY rapper on the face of this earth to discredit Oprah. The are just going to end up discreditng themselves and fucking up the already endagered state that hiphop is currently in.

For the sake of the community, LET IT GO! its not worth the fight.

FACE THE FACTS. OPRAH'S TARGET AUDIENCE IS NOW WHITE, REPUBLICAN NIDDLE AGED FEMALES. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT CAN AFFORD HER BOOKS, COOKBOOKS, AND OTHER PRODUCTS.

P.S. I EXPECTED HER TO SAY SHE LIKE 50. DON'T ALL WHITE PEOPLE? THEN BECAUSE THEY LIKE HIM, THEY THINK THEY GOT A PASS ALL OF A SUDDEN. JUST LIKE HER.

Yeah.. you're right. The media is the great equalizer. Hip hop can't destroy Oprah & Oprah can't destroy Hip Hop but the media can hit hip hop hard. And considering that most hip hop teters on the edge btwn mainstream & underground we don't need to get on the medias bad side.

The media helps sell hip hop. Case n point: 50 Cents career. lol.. Media coverage is essential to mainstream success.

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Who or what the fuck is an Oprah?

I wish a gave a fuck about this shit. Oprah got cake and she has very own audience. SO she has to adopt the values of her audience. HIP HOP does the same thing. If these SOHH niggas run a Blog, Killa Cam is doing a joint with Elton John U niggas would kill him. So if she ain't giving this rap shit any shine for whatever reasons what the big fuckin deal. I just happy that she help niggas go 2 college and shit like that. This shit is overblown. Let her keep doing her shit and these niggas need to keep it moving.

What the f@ck.... If you want mainstream america to accept hip hop as a powerful movement you dont hit and run. Everyone knows that hiphop and oprah never mixed because godforbid someone think that she likes rap music. Well hip hop is about having a voice and using it to let the public know the injustice thats goin on in our hoods (BX BABY)...

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I love hip hop and I dont like oprah but it's pretty simple hip hop WILL LOSE. Oprah is like that big black momma dat you don't want to F with. hip hop are just a bunch of out of control kids shootin out the mouth.

Again I love hip hop and Im a 80's baby so it's not dat im sellin out but if u look at hiphop now it's all about how much you spend and how much ho's u plow so in that case hiphop is pretty much a mess

Hip hop should jus stick to musik.

FACE THE FACTS. OPRAH'S TARGET AUDIENCE IS NOW WHITE, REPUBLICAN NIDDLE AGED FEMALES. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT CAN AFFORD HER BOOKS, COOKBOOKS, AND OTHER PRODUCTS.
P.S. I EXPECTED HER TO SAY SHE LIKE 50. DON'T ALL WHITE PEOPLE? THEN BECAUSE THEY LIKE HIM, THEY THINK THEY GOT A PASS ALL OF A SUDDEN. JUST LIKE HER.

Wut the fuck did you jus emphasize.. white ppl like 50 ??? white ppl don't like hip hop period they want to see hip hop to destroy themselves.

good thing we have jay-z i wouldn't doubt if he sells us out for more money. he already did rock songs and it's only a matter of time for hip hop to trend with rock. now 50 will never do rock songs ever so who do white ppl like more ... ??? buddy

i agree with poster that this lil fued needs to be squashed before the gay ass media hypes it up to get more ratings for themselves. If they feel so heated about it come to a agreement in private and end the thing; maybe later on oprah will change her perspective on some rappers. I can't really blame her for not havin some rappers on her show because, to have some of these ignorant mothafucas representing us is a shame in itself. As of late no rapper droppin life lessons or science if u wanta call it that so to me, hip hop is losin ground. Its funny though that everybody attack Oprah for making money when your favorite rapper is rappin about hustlin and paper stackin exploitin your dumbass while oprah is doing her own thing to achieve her obscene wealth. To sum it up, cut this shit out but dont go back to the way things were before learn from it and become a active voice about it.

Oprah don't owe hip hop a damn thing. It's The OPRAH WINFREY SHOW and she do what she pleases with it. Niggas always preaching about supporting black-owned yet Oprah is 100% black-owned UNLIKE 99.95% of these Klansmen in black face we call rappers.

Your mothers don't listen to Cube, 50, and Luda so why you expect different from the MIGHTY O. Oprah has worked too long and hard to allow her show to be used by hip hop. Since when does hip hop want to be accepted by mainstream America? Oh, I get it. The white corporate interests have given rap niggas a seat at the table and they think it's okay to speak out against someone who promotes alternative forms of creative black people by bringing the Color Purple to Broadway and starting a book club.

This blog does nothing but illustrate something that I have been speaking about for years. If you or YOUR FAVORITE rapper don't like Oprah, THEN COMPETE!!!!

Doesn't ICE CUBE own Cubevision? Why can't he start a show similar to Oprah's that caters to issues affecting the inner-city? Fuck it. Him, 50, Luda, and Killer Mike can put together a few pennies to start their own show. The topics could be anything although I doubt anyone of them are smart enough to talk about anything other rap and how the white man won't increase their royalty checks. Damn, I love Cube, Mike, and Luda but they are WRONG!

Oprah's audience isn't Republican you idiot. Republicans HATE Oprah because she's constantly doing anti-war shows and promoting gay people.

However Oprah is a femenist, & as a femenist she has a legitimate beef with being called a BITCH & a HO.

Oprah told Ed Lover that she likes Hip-hop but doesn't like some of the lyrics.

Also Oprah doesn't feel blacks should call each other NIGGA because her adopted African kids are even starting to call themselves that & she feels that by calling ourselves NIGGA blacks are telling the world what they think about themselves.

White ppl do like Hip Hop..do you know how many of my upper class white friends, and their parents that listen to rap/hip hop? MOre than I do...
I didnt even know who Nas was until one of my white friends played his CD..

Oprah has an extreme hold on the media right now, she's the most powerful voice on television...I remember her telling her audience to boycott hamberger meat and they did...and she was subsequently sued by the farmers across america because they saw a decrease in sales....but she won the case....Do you see how she has an effect on America....

If she seriously wanted to get rid of 50, Cube, and Luda...she could make it happen

O has a point that I firmly believe is the truth and in the right...O is not going to give u special priviledge/treatment just because youre black and neither would I, so dont whine andd sy how could she put her race on blast and other dumb shit...thats exactly whats wrong with niggers today

The thing that really pisses me off about all this is that I watched the show several times and Oprah NEVER made Luda look bad on TV.

Oprah simply encouraged blacks to find another word to call themselves instead of NIGGA & she was arguing with ALL the black men from CRASH not Luda only.

Luda's pissed off because his comments were edited out but it's only an hour show (not counting commericals)

Oprah praised Luda for doing a good job in CRASH, helped the movie get an Oscar & a wider audience & this is how he thanks her.

It's nice that the hip-hop community wants to get on Oprah, but don't trash her in public to make it happen. She's the world's ONLY black billionaire & the most generous black in U.S. history. These young punks should show her some respect.

And just because Oprah feels conflicted about promoting NEGATIVE hip-hop doesn't mean she's against hip-hop.

Oprah's had on Kanye West, Will Smith, LL Cool Jay & many other hip-hop stars. Ice Cube's not really famous enough to be on Oprah anyway, and Oprah put money in Cube's pocket by promoting a movie he produced.

To Rappers, Oprah, and Media:

I read Ice Cube's recent interview, where he has joined the bandwagon of rappers (including Ludacris and 50 Cent) whining about not being invited to appear on "The Oprah Winfrey Show." Why do they care so much? There are tons of other shows in the media where they are featured and can continue to appear to promote their stuff. They depict such a hardcore, fake, 'don't-give-a-damn' image of themselves (and other African Americans), so it is rather interesting that they are so bitter about not being on the "Oprah" show. You know why? They know "Oprah" is the number-one talk show, and that she is probably the most influential personality in America, so they are upset that they are not getting part of the action. It's a bit stupid being this way with one of the most powerful (black) women in the world.

Oprah is not obligated to invite these rappers on her show; it's her show and she can invite or not invite whom she wants. These rappers have such a sense of entitlement - who the hell are they?! Many of them became so-called 'stars' just yesterday! They need to get a grip! Oprah should not allow these select rappers to use this hate and envy-filled campaign to extort her into making them a regular part of her show. She should maintain the classiness of her show. Of course, not all of hip-hop music is negative and bad. There is much of it that is positive, such as recent hits from Kanye West, LL Cool J, Mary J. Blige, Will Smith, etc., all of whom she has had on the show. However, the music industry and other media ensure that the negative images of ourselves dominate the airwaves, and as fools we play into it as artists and product buyers.

Like Oprah, I like some hip-hop music, but not some of the rap music out there that portrays black people as brainless, violent barbarians. My being black does not mean I have to embrace and like all of hip-hop music, just like many white people don't necessarily like heavy-metal rock or country music. I am very disappointed, yet not totally surprised about his bashing of Oprah Winfrey via the media, which is, of course, eating up this 'juicy' story. Since the first related story broke a few months ago involving Chris "Ludacris" Bridges, every media house/magazine and even the Associated Press bring up the issue over and over again in their interviews with rap/ hip-hop stars in order to deliberately put fuel to the fire, and get publicity for their publication. They are so transparent and unscrupulous.

50 Cent is apparently upset that Oprah does not often invite rappers on her show, though he claims "Oprah's audience is my audience's parents... So, I could care less about Oprah or her show." If he doesn't care about her show, then why is he complaining about not being invited on it? That doesn't make sense. I think he and others are bitter about Oprah not allowing them to perpetuate their negative, violent, sexist, brainless, stereotypical image of black males on her show, and I don't blame her. These rappers and the music industry behind them, have the rest of the media, which is more than happy to help them continue to stereotype and put down the minds of black young people.

We are probably the only people who use a term ("nigga") that was used to dehumanize and torture our ancestors, now as a term of so-called 'endearment'. I think we as black people have the lowest self-esteem of all races. Anyone who tries to promote the dignity and pride we should have as a people, and the fact that we should show respect for our black women and children, is shot down and ironically accused of being "against the community," when in fact that person is standing up for the community.
Don't you think white supremacists and other racists in our society and the world enjoy seeing black men being portrayed as sexist, homophobic, brainless sex addicts, and black women being called "bitches" and "hoes" in rap videos? Of course, they do! After all, we are now oppressing our own selves through our own culture. Young black boys and girls now think that that part of hip-hop culture defines who they are, which is sad.

Oprah comes from a time where she is fully aware of the tremendous sacrifices our ancestors paid (including slavery, death and humiliation) so that we can enjoy whatever freedoms and possibilities we have now. And like other conscientious leaders in the black community, she hates the idea that we are playing into the hands of the original oppressors once again without even realizing it.

Rappers: Smell the roses (or whatever non-drug substance you want to smell)! Some of us just revel in ignorance, and think it is so 'cool' -- that's unfortunate. You are being used, and you don't even know it, or probably you do and don't care as long as your pockets are lined with cash.

Become a part of the solution for saving our community, not a part of the problem! You can do all the charity work you want for good public relations, but it is counterproductive if the rest of your efforts and work denigrate instead of uplift our people.

Not even the POTUS (the Prez)would pick a fight with Oprah, how dumb could hip-hop artist be? Oprah's connections could affect their livelihood more than their connections could affect hers. Plus, she didn't make Ludi look bad on her show, she was equally cordial to all the guests that day, he has a big chip on his shouder, in fact, most of them do as soon as they start making a little money.

Luda needs to stop bitchin why do u want to be on oprah so bad dog u not from the chi an most of song do dog women why u think she had Kanye on the show 1)he's from HERE 2)most of his songs don't talk about fucking,hoes,bitchs none of that so stay your ass on the bottom Chi-town over and out!!

I don't even think these rappers are angry at Oprah, I think they are USING Oprah to get free publicity, & the white media which resents Oprah's influence is USING these rappers to take down the richest, most influential, & most generous black person in the world today.

I think these black men are pathetic that they need to trash such a strong & impressive black woman who is old enough to be their mother, just to get a little publicity.

It was actually Sandra Bullock who went after Luda on the Oprah show, but Luda is too cowardly to comaplain about a white woman, so instead he sells the strongest black woman of all time down the river to give the white media sharks something to feed on. PATHETIC.

Oprah helped widen the audience of his movie while Bill O'reilly got him fired from Pepsi. And yet he decides to attack Oprah?

I used to respect Luda but now he makes me sick.

Luda did not look bad on Oprah. She praised his performance and the audience applauded.

He's mad that she brought up his music? The show was about racism and people started talking about the word NIGGA. That's the only reason his music got mentioned, & the other black men agreed with him that it's okay to say NIGGA.

I watched the show three times and I still can't figure out why Luda is angry. I think he's just trying to sell her out to get free publicity.

Some of the comments and the grammer on here is beyond sad. Martin Luther King must be spinning in his grave. This whole thing with Oprah is so stupid. She has so much money and power Luda, 50 and Ice Cube with they had a fraction of what she has. 50 looks like King Kong, Luda looks like a termite and Ice Cube is a HAS BEEN. She just bought a 47 million dollar airplane boys....Need I say more? Sour Grapes.

Oprah & hip-hop are the two most influential forces in the black race today. Is it any wonder that the media keeps trying to start a war between them?

The media is smart enough not to attack either Oprah or hip-hop directly but instead pit them against each other, so that that they destroy each other, and so many of these dumb rappers are falling for it.

Thank God Oprah is smart enough to avoid a war, instead she's reaching out to the hip-hop community by going on Ed Lover & then promoting him on her show.

It's bad enough that some rappers are bad role models for young blacks, but why do they try to destroy the best role model blacks could ever ask for?

Not only is Oprah the world's ONLY black billionaire & the most inluential woman alive, but she's given $250 million back to the black community & produced so many black films.

And on top of that she's GORGEOUS! Check out this picture.

http://www.spin.com/features/everybodystalkingabout/images/2006/05/060531_oprah/

And even if Oprah were anti hip-hop (which she's not) what do you expect from a 52 year old woman with a female audience?

Be happy Oprah uses her show to show the POSITIVE side of hip-hop.

aye real talk, I don't think oprah is as influential to the black community as some of ya'll saying. I mean she's black, but she comes off to me as an everybody person. In fact, she really comes off to me as a chick gettin her money fa real. I mean rap is definately influential to the black community, but oprah, c'mon. I mean shit the more Oprah gives the more money she seems to make, kinda like a cycle, think about it. But shit I aim't mad her, though.

Oprah isn't avoiding war. She's showing amatures how to really conduct business when you're in desagreement.

But I do hope that this doesn't turn into a full blown issue. Because its truly adolecent and pointless.

THIS HAS GOT TO BE A JOKE! THE RAPPERS NEED TO KEEP QUIET ABOUT THIS ISSUE BECAUSE OF OPRAH. WHAT THE HELL IS SHE GOING TO DO AND WHO MADE HER GOD! FREE SPEECH IS EVERYONE'S RIGHT IN AMERICA. IT"S ABOUT TIME SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT HER ASS, BUT AS USUAL, WHEN A PERSON HAS MONEY AND A LOT OF IT, PEOPLE WANT TO SAY HANDS OFF EVEN WHEN IT'S A BLACK WOMAN WHO'S SHOW IS CENTERED AROUND WHITE HOUSEWIVE'S, HELL ALL THE BLACK WOMEN ARE AT WORK WHEN HER SHOW AIRS. HER ASS AIN'T BEEN BLACK SINCE SHE WAS SOHPIA ON THE COLOR PURPLE AND SHE WAS PORTRAYING A ROLE THEN. SHE SHOULD BE EMBRACING RAP AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT MORE INSTEAD OF CRITISIZING SOMETHING SHE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND. A TRUE BLACK WOMAN WOULD NOT HAVE PUT LUDA ON BLAST ON THE SHOW AND TRIED TO TALKED TO HIM PRIVATELY, BUT SHE A HOUSE NIGGA AND DID IT ON TV WHEN HER TOPIC WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT THE MOVIE CRASH. HELL, SHE WILL GET A WAKE UP CALL ONE DAY AND DID WHEN THAT SHOP IN EUROPE WOULDN'T LET HER BLACK ASS IN TO SHOP, YOU MAY BE RICH BITCH BUT YOU STILL A NIGGA AND GOT TREATED LIKE ONE ON THAT DAY! SO I SAY TO WHOMEVER STARTED THIS BLOG, HIP HOP IS A MOVEMENT AND YOU HAVE TENDENCIES TO SELL OUT, SO IF YOU ARE FRIENDS WITH THIS PERSON, THEY WILL SELL YOUR BLACK ASS OUT, LOOK WHAT THEY WROTE.

I agree with everything Cris has said.
First of all what is with all this Hip Hop looses if we go to war with Oprah ? What is Luda a rapper or an actor,make up your mind. Or does he have split personalities. It's true Ludacris is smarter that most of his audience but he dumbs down his intellect when making music. All his songs are about fucking bitches, smoking weed, cars, and some clever metaphors. That's about it. He is very multi-talented but him nor any of these rappers should be trying to gain publicity by quarreling with Oprah. The woman has paid her dues.Why does every rich black person have to be out to be a savior of a race of 40million people. Better yet the majority of the world is either black or brown. I live in the ATL and i don't hear anyone asking if Ted Turner gives away his money to the poor white people in Cobb County or Gwinnett. Oprah has done alot for black. None of you are her accountants, so you don't know what she spends her money on. Rappers are suppossed to be the reporters of what's going on out here in society. We are fighting two wars,heading into a police state, economic recession, amongst other social ills and most of what Ludacris raps about is ignorance. Besides the audacity of Ice Cube to even open his mouth. What happened to the Amerikkkas most wanted, Lethal Injection; Ice Cube. Oprah Winfrey is from Mississippi(The Dirty South) one of the most racist places to be during the civil rights era. What she had to go thru to make it to where she is now none of us can imagine. Young Black people need to stop looking for handouts, stop making excuses and go out here and make something of your lives. It's not cool to be ignorant anymore.And if you are supporting Ludacris then you are embracing a culture of ignorance.Where is Chuck Norris when you need him.

Yo it's me, Booka T. Oprah needs 2 shut her trap wit da hip hop hate. Harlem Heat comin back! Me and Stevie Ray fittin ta drop da book end on these suuuuuckaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas!!! Can you dig it! It's on like a pot of neckbones, sucka.

TO: HIP HOP WORLD

FROM: THE BOONDOCKS

THIS WILL BE MY LAST POSTING HERE. I NO LONGER BELIEVER IN OUR CULTURE NOR OUR MUSIC ICONS.

THIS IS A JOKE!! - I'M TIRED OF SEEING OUR CULTURE CRUMBLE BY SO MANY IDIOTS!

WHORE CARES ABOUT OPRAH AND LUDA ??!! HONESTLY WHO ????????????? THEY HAVE NEVER PAID MY RENT.

I'M MOVING TO CANADA.

MUCH LOVE.

TO: HIP HOP WORLD

FROM: THE BOONDOCKS

THIS WILL BE MY LAST POSTING HERE. I NO LONGER BELIEVER IN OUR CULTURE NOR OUR MUSIC ICONS.

THIS IS A JOKE!! - I'M TIRED OF SEEING OUR CULTURE CRUMBLE BY SO MANY IDIOTS!

WHORE CARES ABOUT OPRAH AND LUDA ??!! HONESTLY WHO ????????????? THEY HAVE NEVER PAID MY RENT.

I'M MOVING TO CANADA.

MUCH LOVE.

TO: HIP HOP WORLD

FROM: THE BOONDOCKS

THIS WILL BE MY LAST POSTING HERE. I NO LONGER BELIEVER IN OUR CULTURE NOR OUR MUSIC ICONS.

THIS IS A JOKE!! - I'M TIRED OF SEEING OUR CULTURE CRUMBLE BY SO MANY IDIOTS!

WHORE CARES ABOUT OPRAH AND LUDA ??!! HONESTLY WHO ????????????? THEY HAVE NEVER PAID MY RENT.

I'M MOVING TO CANADA.

MUCH LOVE.

TO: ALL

FROM: THE BOONDOCKS

WE CAN ALL BE READING A BOOK RIGHT NOW.

MUCH LOVE.

yeah everybody needs to chill out. all this unrest in the blk community is hurtful. jeezy warns us against this type of behavior on his mixtape check it out

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TO: GIGABRICKMAN

FROM: THE BOONDOCKS

MY POINT IS PROVEN. NIIIAGA BRICKMAN... GO BUY SOME ADVERTISING. WE DON'T NEED TO LISTEN TO YOUR MUSIC.

MUCH LOVE.

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Oh to TIGGERRED, what does it mean to be black. Is it based on skin color alone or is it based on culture ? Is Osama Bin Ladin black cus he has dark skin, nappy hair, and big lips ? Maybe Oprah could have understood rap in the 1980s or 90's but ask your self what is a woman in her power going to benefit from by listening to Young Jeezy, The Houston rap scence, or Dip set ? I mena hte woman has be to the heart of "blackness" Africa. She has done her time in hte field and personally gave away millions of her money to charities. When was the last time you or anyone on here helped out in your own respective communities ? When was the last time you talked to any of the youth in your hood. I love rap,hip-hop or whatever you call it to death. But the majority of these rappers and young black people out here are dumb, deaf, and blind. Hell Ludacris artist Shawnna has a song called " Gettin Some Head" for christ sakes. He lucky Oprah didn't touch o that or his song " Pussy Poppin."lol.You may feel like the white man has his foot on your neck but not me.You on here talking about a house nigga. Please this is not 1834. It's 2006 and black people have plenty of opportunities out here. But we are our own vice now. Ya'll need to have some respect for your elder cus i would rahter meet nad build with Oprah even if the majority of her audience is white than any one of the rappers anyway. Beside real B-Boys and B-girls are from the ages of 25 to 40. American Hip HOp is damn near dead. The only cats that are making current mainstream Hip HOp music are Outkast, Lupe Fiasco, Common, Kanye West anyway.

what do u mean by real black people? just because u live in a safe white gated community that mean u better than me. its beacuse of people like you that hip hop is goin after oprah. i dont care how much money you have, how educated u are, or where u live. nobody is better than anyone else. we are all equalm in the eyes of god and he is the only one who can judge anyone. im from the hood, but im goin to college and trying to make somethin of myself. my brother or sister ill pray 4 you.

Posted by: darnell at June 5, 2006 12:20 PM

Darnell you crab in the barrel bitch shut the fuck up. It is stupidass hood niggas like you who gives us brothas a bad name. Always promoting criminal shit. I dont get a fuck about you going to college cuz you still a crab in the barrel asshole. You want to talk about being real? Please hood bitch dont even go there. You rarely ever here shit going down in the suburbs. It is nice and queit. Im glad that crabs in the barrels like you dont live here promoting your rap crap. You rappers are biggest embarassment of black folks. Darnell why dont you explain N.W.A? ANd what do the hottest rappers rap about? I rest my case. And I dont need your prayers cuz Ive already made it unlike you.

Why is it in hip-hop that we gotta dumb-down our music in order to get top dollar and become mainstream? Understand Oprah's Fan Base is not the same as hip-hop. Accept it. Hip-Hop hasn't grown that old, Yet. The time hasn't come yet for us to even question this move by Oprah. She's got her Billion. I'm A true hip-hop head til I die, but She's in a position now to where she caters to a different market of people than hip-hop does. that's not saying that hip-hop can't have the same market in years to come. It sucks that it's like that, but that's the was the games played. Maybe if we didn't fall victim to the over promoted songs that talks about bitches, hoes, drug dealing, you know the rest etc, and had some sort of an EQUAL BALANCE of subject matter. She would have a clearer vision of our culture and maybe convince her core market to explore hip-hop. That's crazy, seeing an old 60 year-old white women on the corner wit her pants saggin rockin some forces. and a chain. Ultimately Oprah can do whatever the fuck she wants to. It's her show. "IF SHE BASHED HIP-HOP", which I'm not really sure she did, and even if she did she's not doing the Rev. Calvin Butts, C Deloris Tucker type campain against it. she probably addresed HER view on it & moved on. It wasn't that big TO HER. She got this far without really embracing hip-hop. what does SHE have to gain by embracing the culture?? Hip-Hop has more to gain in the situation.

Anyway from now on i'm going to be bombing ya'll cats on here. So to BOONDOCKS if you didn't care why are you on here blogging ? You should be reading a book. And i'm reading one now called Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison. Besides you don't pay your rent someone gives you a check to pay your bills. If it wasn't for them you wouldn't be eating right now so chill out with your facist connotations.The government supports us all unless you own your own business.

U silly niggas need to understand THE REAL. Oprah could EXPOSE to the masses all the recent SENSELESS violence attached to hip-hop ( TI,Proof,Bustas body guard, etc) and portray a picture of niggas completely out of control, all hip-hop related. Niggas can say " it's on some street shit ", but that don't matter. Being smart is knowing WHO to fuck wit, and who NOT to fuck wit. If you win the battle, but lose the war, now you've fucked yourself.

I've said this shit before on this site, niggas in hip-hop is gonna fuck around and they gonna BAN gangsta rap at some point. And they'll only have themselves to blame. Instead of making good music and welcoming new niggas in the game, U gonna see more niggas shootin at niggas on freewways, or at concerts ( the dumbest shit on the planet and for no apparent reason ) and it'll be a wrap for Gangsta Rap. U let 20-30 cats get killed at a concert and I GUARANTEE U, the government will come in and end A LOT OF NIGGAS MONEY. U see Snoop is BANNED over seas. ( I forget the country ).

Any cat that says all this BULLSHIT is "just a part of Hip Hop" is a dumb ass nigga. Competeting on the MIC IS, shootin at niggas at video shoots and on freeways is 100% Hoe Shit!

Thats real talk 4 yo azz!

Out!

I think hip hop does need to address Oprah. It is not the silent type. If we have valid points about being publicly dismissed by our own people, we need to address them. We are the present and the future- we are not a fad. Still it seems many older leaders, of whom Oprah is one, are not willing to respect hip hop culture because of certain ideologies. They think its all show. But we know it isn't 100% show or it wouldn't last. There is some truth in it all, which can't be overlooked by the upper classes just because it's dazzled in diamonds and platinum. Oprah can't dismiss hip hop without dismissing a large population of black people for whom it is enjoyable and even a part of daily life. Her approach to hip hop is immature. On the other hand, hip hop can always show its valiant face and be willing to talk about its strong and weak points. That's the bottom line. I hope artists aren't silent, but I hope they're willing to show both the good and bad and stand by it.

I love Hip-Hop, But I can't defend it!!!

luda and cube got a legitimate gripe killer mike made a damned good point 'cuz i talked about a personal oprah situation and i feel ya boy is offering 2 of his fifty cents just to be on the bandwagon and be controversial like somebody on 1 of these blogs said oprah's fans are the mothers of 50's and if he don't watch it his shit'll be banned from the house then we'll see who's boss!!!

U silly niggas need to understand THE REAL. Oprah could EXPOSE to the masses all the recent SENSELESS violence attached to hip-hop ( TI,Proof,Bustas body guard, etc) and portray a picture of niggas completely out of control, all hip-hop related. Niggas can say " it's on some street shit ", but that don't matter. Being smart is knowing WHO to fuck wit, and who NOT to fuck wit. If you win the battle, but lose the war, now you've fucked yourself.

I've said this shit before on this site, niggas in hip-hop is gonna fuck around and they gonna BAN gangsta rap at some point. And they'll only have themselves to blame. Instead of making good music and welcoming new niggas in the game, U gonna see more niggas shootin at niggas on freewways, or at concerts ( the dumbest shit on the planet and for no apparent reason ) and it'll be a wrap for Gangsta Rap. U let 20-30 cats get killed at a concert and I GUARANTEE U, the government will come in and end A LOT OF NIGGAS MONEY. U see Snoop is BANNED over seas. ( I forget the country ).

Any cat that says all this BULLSHIT is "just a part of Hip Hop" is a dumb ass nigga. Competeting on the MIC IS, shootin at niggas at video shoots and on freeways is 100% Hoe Shit!

Thats real talk 4 yo azz!

Out!

Posted by: surdodubb at June 5, 2006 05:34 PM

And I hope they do ban gangsta rap. It is killing our image. Although it would be good to see about 40-50 crab in the barrel hood niggas getting killed. Time to take out the trash and let real blacks ( which are the ones with common sense that are living a moral rightous life) shine and show the world that all blacks are not criminals.

if i read another weak minded,slave-ass blogger, talking dont go at oprah or please keep this in house..lol(tom-as-shit)for what,? straight-up, some of you sound like cowards & the other half sounds like house niggers for the rich. the cat is already out the ma fucca bag and the truth hurts, she has commited racism against rappers and need to hold a forum on her TOP-RATED SHOW to discuss these allegations like any other topic, if she really not shucking & jiving for white women pocket-books(not all rappers got a positive story, doesnt make them bad, either)! hiphop will never be silent or well-mannered. why, cause the next generation of poor and hungry kids growing up in today's GHETTOS of AMERICA has seen the lies, live the nobody care about us, uppidy nigga talk. money dont make you smart or better than anybody, thats way the urban youth wont tolerate being disrespectiful! dont believe me, go to any hood and check a nigga like what oprah said.

oops, i saided lil-too much yall whisper behind masser back,ok! ms. cely, beens real good toos me!

Fuck Oprah, Hip Hop will be and always has been fine without her it started without her so FUCK Oprah.

Spiin1er
Mighty Zulu Nation
Bronx

This last post is a classic example of a cat talkin REAL LOUD and saying ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. CUBE AND LUDA and them cats done said what they got to say, Oprah said what she got to say. That's it yo. Oprah needs to have a forum to address this shit? Now thats some funny shit.

I think the kids in the GHETTOS OF AMERICA could give less than TWO SHITS about CUBE AND LUDAS BEEF with OPRAH. They SHOULD HAVE more real shit on they mind, and besides,IT'S NOT OPRAHS BEEF WIT HIP-HOP, IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

I appreciate the the NO FEAR mentality but some of you cats is WAY 2 emotional and need to THINK before you react to shit.

Out!

hip hop aint dead
its just sleep

FUCK HIP HOP!

Cant we all just get along?

my post wasnt intended to wash-out ur dirty-ass eardrums, but i see how sensitive you got tho. i'm thinking how u dont understand oprah addressing the situation by running to ed lover's morning show talking about it. i guess you need do some more thinking, huh!

Oprah's not real, huh?

Hmmmm.....

I guess you didn't see that show she had on ABC last week where she got together the most powerful Black people in the world for a celebration of BLACKNESS. I guess you all forgot about her upbringing which is nothing BUT HIP-HOP. Southern girl, born into poverty, endured horrible physical abuse, put herself through college, got her own show based on nothing but her talent, and then became a media titan. Hmmmmmm....sounds HIP-HOP to me.

Fuck any one of you who talk crazy about Oprah. She's a testament to Black determination, and some of ya'll want to hate because she's not HOOD enough.

Fuck any Oprah hater, from my heart.

P.S.....Oprah haters NEED to get a 50 Cent. This man praised George Bush for his "gangsta" while SCORES of our Black brethren died on camera last summer.

But ya'll hate Oprah.

Whatever, faggots.

some people on here are hypocritical, we give a person PRAISE when they make legitimate complaints with whut's wrong with hiphop JUST as long they are part of the hiphop culture.....

if it's someone that wasn't RAISED in the culture, but make those SAME complaints about hiphop we want to crucify that person...

personally, i never heard oprah bad mouth hiphop, just people assuming that since she don't have hiphoppers on her show (even though several rappers been on here show before, INCLUDING cube years back) that she don't have any love for the culture....

real talk is that her audience isn't a hiphop audience...and when she DID speak her mind on how she felt about the culture, everytthing she said was the truth, and things that we complain about all the time about mainstream rap

it's just that since she's NOT part of the culture, then we get offended even though we would of said the samething

NIGGAS NEED TO REALIZE OPRAH WILL HAVE U ON HER SHOW JUST ASK NIGGA I BET THEY SUSPECT HER TO KISS THEY ASS AND INVITE THINGS I RESPECT ALL THESE ARTIST BUT DONT PUT DOWN AN SUCCESSFUL BLACK WOMEN IT AINT RIGHT WE AS MEN GOT TO GET THAT RESPECT FOR WOMEN BACK SO IN CONCLUSION JUST ASK OPRAH SHE LIKES HIP HOP BUT NOT GONNA KISS ASS CUBE JUST ASK NIGGA END OF DISCUSSION

And WORD to whoever said Gangsta Hip-Hop is soon to get banned. It will happen. Why...

BECAUSE A WHITE PERSON WILL SOON GET KILLED.

Yup. Just wait and see what happens after that, when a "Becky" gets popped at a concert.

Niggas.

JUST BECAUSE SOME SUPID ASS RAPPERS ARE DISSING DON'T MEAN SHIT. HER AUDIENCE DOESN'T EVEN LISTENT TO RAP SO SHY THE FUCK WOULD SHE INVITE THEM LOSER NIGGAS ON THE SHOW. THEM NIGGAS SOUND LIKE SOME LITTLE FUCKING BITCHES CRYING ABOUT THAT SHIT. GROW UP! OPRAH PROMOTES POSITIVE BLACK PEOPLE, NOT SOME DUMB STREET MONKEY TALKING ABOUT SLANGING CRACK AND FUCKING HOES.

And WORD to whoever said Gangsta Hip-Hop is soon to get banned. It will happen. Why...

BECAUSE A WHITE PERSON WILL SOON GET KILLED.

Yup. Just wait and see what happens after that, when a "Becky" gets popped at a concert.

Niggas.

Posted by: gregsimmsjr. at June 5, 2006 08:14 PM

The hood niggas will be to blame. Let somthing like that go down. You talk about DWBs. They ever find him the judge will give him the death needle. But hey, that will be one less crab in the barrel to deal with.

JUST BECAUSE SOME SUPID ASS RAPPERS ARE DISSING DON'T MEAN SHIT. HER AUDIENCE DOESN'T EVEN LISTENT TO RAP SO SHY THE FUCK WOULD SHE INVITE THEM LOSER NIGGAS ON THE SHOW. THEM NIGGAS SOUND LIKE SOME LITTLE FUCKING BITCHES CRYING ABOUT THAT SHIT. GROW UP! OPRAH PROMOTES POSITIVE BLACK PEOPLE, NOT SOME DUMB STREET MONKEY TALKING ABOUT SLANGING CRACK AND FUCKING HOES.

Posted by: ------------ at June 5, 2006 08:43

I co-sign that. She is REAL unlike crabs in the barrels. But then again hood niggas hate whats right and loves whats wrong. That just how it is.

Suburb....I feel ya' homie. Just wait until somebody from G-Unit or Dip Set messes up and accidentally kills some 20 year old White co-ed. This hip-hop shit will get shut down quicker than you can say "Memphis Bleek".

First of all Oprah is the most real black person out there. Oprah's given a QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLARS to black causes. More than any black ever! Oprah's show is CONSTANTLY promoting positive black role models & positive black art.

Oprah has nothing in common with people like 50 cent. Yes they both came from the ghetto, but Oprah was smart enough to do so well in school that she got a scholarship to a private high school & can't relate to black men who flunked out of school & joined gangs. Oprah's focus is education & she's constantly trying to keep black kids in school.

And Oprah NEVER gave Luda a hard time. I saw the show & if he's complaining about a little friendly disagreement he's the world's BIGGEST PUSSY!

Oprah's target audience is women and gay men. A bunch of sexist homophobic rappers are of no interest to her audience and she shouldn't have to change her show (the most successful black owned business of all time) because a bunch of black men are not smart enough to make money without the help of a woman.

It just kills these black men to realize that the world's ONLY black billionaire is a woman.

Why is Ludacris mad at Oprah? All she said is "I've had a tough time with your lyrics, but great performance in the movie."

Ludacris needs to have enough respect for his elders to respect her opinion & not bitch about it to the white media.

Oprah never dissed hip-hop. Oprah simply suggested that blacks should stop saying NIGGA because it tells the world what we think of ourselves & even her black African adopted children have started saying it. But Oprah allowed lots of black men on her show to give the OPPOSITE opinion.

Oprah had the same discussion with Chris Rock who isn't even a rapper.

Ludacris is just dissing Oprah to get publicity. He knows Oprah has a soft-spot for young blacks so he can get away with it.

Notice how these rappers are too cowardly to go after Bill O'reilly who really does HATE hip-hop.

These cowards would rather attack their own people.

These rappers depend on a WHITE audience for most of their sales. 50 cent caters to little white boys & he perpetuates negative black stereotypes to do it, so he's more of house nigga than anyone else in entertainment.

Oprah caters to women over 30 of all races. Oprah doesn't have to whore herself to get a young audience, she's mature & secure enough to reach women her own age, unlike Ludacris & 50 cent who pander to little white boys.

Oprah'f from the generation that came before hip-hop. Hip-hop has nothing to do with the struggle for civil rights or anything important in the black community.

Oprah doesn't owe hip-hop anything. If anything hip-hop should be apologizing for having such a negative impact on black youth.

Meanwhile Oprah gets black mothers in the ghetto to read DIFFICULT black literature like Toni Morrison, creating literate mothers for the next generation of blacks!

Ludacris is a piece of shit. He's a fraud who pretends he's from the hood so he can call my people NIGGA but he's a college boy who panders to white college boys by demeaning his own people. He's a sell-out house nigga.

Oprah by contrast is actually from the ghetto. Oprah promotes POSITIVE black images. Oprah's given HUNDREDS of MILLIONS to black causes. Oprah actually walked through the superdome after Katrina struck.

Oprah's a thousand times blacker than Ludacris!!!!!!!!

MIKE,SW,HTOWN is X-bloc.

EnglandRepresent

listen here, i'm not backing down on nothing i said. you can talk on that oprah shit all you want but hiphop got rappers/artists that have achievements 2 and like most HIPHOP fans(like me) would love to see some positive promotion when HIPHOP IS GOOD for a change(luda did a great job in crash) but no, you want the media(oprah 2) to keep throwing that negative image out there, so the MAJORITY OF SUCCESSIFUL BLACKS IN HIPHOP, CANT MAKE MONEY. thats whats this all about anyway, be real & fess up bitches.. most of yall on here, on that american idol/that thats 70s show/friends bullshit anyway. so u dont have clue or dont wanna hear(a rappers) rags to riches story unless u sharing cheese-crackers & a latte with brainwash/wish i was a rapper/i know 3 black people/living off my parents, who made gangsta rap famous in the first place, ma fuccas. EVERYBODY that already sits in oprah audience have bought a rap record, hell, they prolly went to a concerts from the same artists oprah brushing off. one way of the other(themselves or for their kids), HIPHOP is in their everyday society. plus everybody on her show, including oprah have use profanity, so whats the big deal about the word BITCH. i guess its too sensitive when a group of BITHCES like you, who think only certain people can make money off the word. BITCH get the fuck out here..stop this dumb shit & be fair to everybody!

My friend....please let the G.E.D kick in. LOL! Did anybody else understand what that Brotha just said?

KRS-One, where are you when we need you? LOL!

and stop worrying about oprah's money, if you really had the intelligence to look at the big picture, nobody asking or begging oprah to do shit. just be fair but when you invite Karrine Steffans, the ku klux clan, and anna nicole-simpson, clarence(just a lil bit,anita hill) thomas etc.etc.etc. THATS NOT FAIR!

what you dont understand, gregsimmsjr? since we both g.e.d material. lol

Funny thing is, Oprah's probably more "hood" and "legit" than most of us posting on this page. From the sticks of the South, from the hood of Detroit, to the TOP OF THE WORLD....I think she's earned a Hood Pass for life.....

Suburb....I feel ya' homie. Just wait until somebody from G-Unit or Dip Set messes up and accidentally kills some 20 year old White co-ed. This hip-hop shit will get shut down quicker than you can say "Memphis Bleek".

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you're bitch-made hater gregsimmsjr. i see u got your g.e.d cheating on the test. wait until somebody get killed, how u sound..god-forbidden, maybe follow heavy-metal, you will found ur white co-ed(od, shot, raped, or drug-trafficking) get the fuck outta here.

I don't understand your almost pathological hatred of the woman. I don't understand why you've called people on this board "Bitches" when you are trying to prove a point.

But....I DO understand why NIGGAS like you make somebody like Oprah not want to put some rappers on her show. I do seem to remember that Ludacris made a song called "MOVE BITCH". I do know that Ice Cube made a song called "A BITCH IS A BITCH' back in the day. I guess you didn't see that Oprah is a 50 year old BLACK WOMAN who may have been offended by those songs or songs like them.

What offends me about you is your narrow mindedness. What....should Oprah leave ABC, join BET and broadcast out of Harlem? The Fifth Ward? Watts? Would that make her more "hood" to you?

Bro, you have NO IDEA of the struggle of your people. It's obvious you are a young Brotha, so I'll give you that. STUDY homie. Study and learn about REAL Black struggles. Learn about EVERYTHING in Black entertainemtn history, and not the stuff that RUSSEL SIMMONS is teaching you.

i'm glad oprah got power,respect, money, a white following like no other good nigga. so whats ur point JUNIOR. that uppidy niggas reach a platue, then think they to good to associate with little niggas, or have to bodyguards like your bitch-ass.

EnglandRepresent vs. Godzilla

As far as the WHITE CO-ED remark, Bro, I work in the professional field every day. White folks are FED UP with the recent rap shit. There's a movement goin on right NOW with White people low key. See, they really don't care when OUR kids get hurt or shot up....but when it gets to their clubs and their places, they get edgy. Trust me....let one of their college bound kids get hurt on some hip-hop shit...the whole artform would get crippled in a matter of days. All these niggas you see on videos would be back on the chitlin' circut in no time flat. Once again, young'n....open up your perspective. There's a lot of deeeeeeep shit goin'on.

i'm glad you brought the struggle-up, JUNIOR. i'm 35 and raised thru the biggest movement that affected black people(positively) since the civil rights. HIPHOP change how white people thought,feel, and treated my race. you tell me what happen when the schools & college doors flew open, and blacks started to change from we to I!

This back and forth ain't got nothin to do with me but I'm gonna put my 2 cents in anyway.

I think blowitouchaass has got a point when he says that the media mainly focus on the negatives of hip-hop and the artists. Very rare is it that a hip-hop artists receives positive press, 3 6 Mafia got some with their Grammy award but they were still depicted as being you're average, uneducated, ignorant ass nigga. I think the beef blowitoutchaass has with Oprah is that she chooses to underline the negative rather than the positive when it comes to hip-hop and its artists. Many rappers have come through some serious hardship, like Luda, like Cube and have turned themselves into a success yet Oprah does'nt recognise that.

THAT said, it is fair to say Oprah does'nt owe any of these dudes anythign, she does'nt owe them respect, she does'nt owe them any limelight for them to shine. She might cater to white audiences yet as far as I'm aware and if what gregsimmsjr. is fact she also contributes considerably to black America. As a woman who isn't a young black woman she is not gonna like hip-hop, my Moms fuckin hates hip-hop, reggae she's all over it, hip-hop, with all the subject matter she hates. It stands to reason Oprah ain't gonna love it but I think as a black woman with a talk show that is incredibly well established she should try and understand it as it a massive part of the culture of young blacks all over the world.

Blowitouttaass sounds like a crab in the barrel.

Usually, I'd air you out for calling me this many bitches....LOL! But, I see that you are a Brotha with TONS of misguided energy. What's funny is that 16 years ago, you may have been listening to Public Enemy, possibly thinking about joining the Fruit of Islam.....

Sigh.

what you saying, you are a snitch or a house nigga, spying!lol racist white people been hating from day one, whats new! i think hiphop for bring different culture together. some of my bestfriends are white. HIPHOP not going nowhere. you haven't really been to a underground hiphop show, huh! meaning not your typical commerical show, everybody knows about

EnglandRepresent vs. Godzilla

Well, Blowitout....I'm 33 years old, and I'm VERY much a Hip-hop head. But, I'm also a Black adult that's painfully aware of my people's history. I agree that Oprah can be out of touch at times. I agree that she has had gaps where she's rolled hard with the elite for wayyyy long.

But, it's hard for me to ignore the success story that SHE IS. She's a billionare that...shouldn't be here. A Black woman, that....I hate saying, isn't the most attractive, had weight problems for years, aired out all the ghosts of her past...AND SHE STILL STANDS.

So, when I hear BLACK people shit on her, just because she didn't put TWO rappers on her show, I get upset. two rappers for 20 years of unmatched achevement....that's unacceptable to me.

i'm no crab in the barrel, brother! if you getting whats yours, and living comfortable, i'm happy for you. I've been stating for 2 weeks, i want oprah to do her job as journalist & a talk show host to be fair. not throw stones, and not allow the victim to defend themselves! fuck anyone who think since she oprah, she got the clout to do it, without nothing being said.

suburbs nigga, stay out of grown people conversation, youngin!

whats up england representer? lol

gregsimmsjr. : Yeah but because Oprah has had 20 years of unparalleled success in television do you not think it appropriate that she recognises or at least tries to understand the hip-hop culture as it is massive throughout the world among young blacks, whites and people of all colour?

WOAH..."snitch"? You are 35 years old and you are calling me a snitch?!

Wow...I didn't know niggas over 16 used that word.

Damn, homie.

Godzilla would stomp a mudhole in his asshole

i'm no crab in the barrel, brother! if you getting whats yours, and living comfortable, i'm happy for you. I've been stating for 2 weeks, i want oprah to do her job as journalist & a talk show host to be fair. not throw stones, and not allow the victim to defend themselves! fuck anyone who think since she oprah, she got the clout to do it, without nothing being said.

suburbs nigga, stay out of grown people conversation, youngin!

whats up england representer? lol

Posted by: blowitoutchaass at June 6, 2006 12:30 AM

Sounds like your the youngin. Yep. Definatly a crab in the barrel.

WOAH..."snitch"? You are 35 years old and you are calling me a snitch?!

Wow...I didn't know niggas over 16 used that word.

Damn, homie.

Posted by: gregsimmsjr. at June 6, 2006 12:32 AM

He aint over 16.

JUNIOR, think about the success story of others like luda. i cant totally defend cube,50,luda nobody in their right mind can either, unless u know them personally but they have accomplish alot and deserve the shine u may give a mike tyson, or a mary j. blige or a bernie mac! by the way, the people i just mention all use the word BITCH 2!

EnglandRepresent, Oprah has had rappers on her show before. Maybe not cats like Jay-Z or Nas, but she has. And, yeah she could stand to open up her guest list, no doubt. She could start dialouge on matters as living in urban Ameriaca by letting Cube and Luda on.

But, I'm not gonna slag the woman because she hasn't done it yet. She doesn't deserve that.

blowitoutchaass : What up son? I feel you on the Oprah issue, even if she does'nt respect some of the subject matter in hip-hop she needs to respect the genre and the artists in it if she wants to remain up on contemporary culture.

And just a small issue, its EnglandRepresent, not EnglandRepresenter - just a minor error but needed to be corrected nonetheless, lol!

Suburbs...it's been a strugle reading these post tonight, Brotha....LOL! So many opinions and ENERGY. Imagine if the shit was put in some positive direction....:)

Hood niggas will be hood niggas. That is why we need folks like Oprah. She can steer the black race in a different direction. Let the crabs in the barrel degrade their own race (Luda, Ice Cube). Them attacking Oprah and not Bill O Reilly is a prime example of the crab in the barrel mentality.

I AGREE WITH WHUDDUP THE FOURTH PERSON TO COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE 10000000000000 PERCENT!

Black vs. Black
It will never end.

oprah, trying to protect her fan base nothing more, nothing less! hiphop wouldnt hurt her show or her ratings! HIPHOP has been on every other talk show from david letterman to good morning america and its been 20 yrs for oprah. get the fuck outta here

she trippin & its very sad!

SOHH Southern *sniff* *sniff* I smell PUSSY!!!!!

And as far as the Gangsta rap thing, I'm tellin' you, it's real as far as the breaks about to be pumped on this shit. It made TONS of money for record companies for years, but now these guys are tired of it. There's been too many murders this year alone, and folks are starting to get scared. And you know what happens when people get scared....knee jerk reactions. Keep watchin', in the next few years there's going to be some shit going down.

Suburbs...it's been a strugle reading these post tonight, Brotha....LOL! So many opinions and ENERGY. Imagine if the shit was put in some positive direction....:)

Posted by: gregsimmsjr. at June 6, 2006 12:40 AM

I hear ya.

suburb nigga, you a clown-ass nigga that nobody give a fuck where u from..i know i dont! talking all that shit in your moms basements

Hip Hop is going to get worse just watch. More stupid hood niggas are going to do "their thing" and then blame the hood or the music. You hear them say it all the time. "Da hood made me do it". That is bullshit.

As a man who's live in the HOOD and the BURBS I can tell you, I love Black folks all over America. I got respect for Gangstas and Pastors. Thieves and Saints. That's why rappers can't hate on Oprah and vice versa. Both groups of entertainers hit DIFFERENT points of Black life. I dont think people should have a problem with that. If Oprah never had Cube (a legend, and God Bless him for that new joint "Why We Thug")...I wouldn't be mad.

Oprah doesn't have to mess with the street for me to like her. Just like Cube doesn't have to have Oprah on one of his album skits. Black people are DIVERSE.

'Imagine if the shit was put in some positive direction' - Real talk but isn't that the same struggle the black man has been having for hundreds of years, unfortunately brothers concentrate all of their energy on squabbling amongst each other rather than unifying, Suburbs Nigga got that right 'crab in the barrel mentality'.

gangsta raps, not going anywhere. the record labels like interscope loves gangsta rap, hell they built their empire on gangsta rap. thats why conscience rap disappeared. but the thing that kills me, why is when black people do or say something its a big deal! what if tom cruise said oprah dont like HIPHOP or fired back at her questioning him wrong, wonder what the outcome that shit would bring.

suburb nigga, you a clown-ass nigga that nobody give a fuck where u from..i know i dont! talking all that shit in your moms basements

Posted by: blowitoutchaass at June 6, 2006 12:48 AM

Again. A perfect example of a bitch ass crab in the barrel. I bet this homo supported N.W.A. back in the day. It is a shame this ignorant fuck is a prime example of why brothas are pull over for being black. You clam your 35? HA. You talk like a 15 year old crab in the barrel. When your dumbass does wrong I bet you blame the "hood". "Da ghetto made me do it". I can hear your crab in the barrell ass screaming that in a courtroom.

EnglandRepresent vs. Godzilla

UKs in trouble

touching on that crab in the barrel thing, its really no different from any other race..but black people, we dont have large numbers in nothing except crime and prisons! thats why we need all the positive exposure we can get, like trying to shake the monkey off your backs but niggas like suburb niggas and uppidy niggas wanna hate on the small guy. everybody i talk to, myself include, respect the sister hustle but question her merits toward HIPHOP.

I gotta get ready for work in the morning. But it was an honor talking with ALL of you (blowitout....you are a true warrior, even if you don't belive it coming from me) God Bless all of you Brothas and Sistas!

I hope Oprah was reading my posts....maybe she could give a Brotha a loan. LOL!

All I have to say to the world of Hip-Hop is to keep up the good work,Just focus more on speaking wisdom to the youth in stead of telling them how you live.I am also a hip hop artist and Ive been tring to get on for sometime now but i stopped to focus more on spreading the word of Rastafari becaue i found a lot of the youth follwing and doing the same thing i was years ago.We need the youth to be strong because the white man or should i say the government is aiming at the destruction of the Black race.We belong in Ethiopia ( The Promised land )but while we are here we need to focus on Unity because in the near future Bibles and Religion are gonna get you in trouble and Good people are gonna be arrested for doing good for example praising GOD ( JAH ).Oprah just need to wake and look in the mirror.Oprah you Still black,that money only makes you rich and black.I never got a deal but I enjoy being broke,because i can never forget where i came from and I can focus on savin my people.AFRICAN PRIDE!
Rasta Boi'-cdbaby.com-jamaica15@cox.net
Rasta is a Future.Rev 5:5,Hebrews 11:1

suburb (cracker) nigga, i dont need to bitch because i used to get blowjobs from your bitch. remember i had the bitch first. i let you have her because her pussy was dry like hot apples.

sup yo

HIPHOP, is the only form of music that can unite the world in one place without problems compare to the dangers. WHY have oprah not conducted a special on this. see you think i'm hating but i'm really analyzing but real dumb ma fuccas cant understand. thats why luda,50,cube, and killer mike are right in my eyes...this something been brewing for a while anyway. i bet oprah receives a check behind close doors(vendors & upfront money) from the taste of chicago when they book hiphop acts. exploitition without representation, especially with whitey looking, huh

suburb (cracker) nigga, i dont need to bitch because i used to get blowjobs from your bitch. remember i had the bitch first. i let you have her because her pussy was dry like hot apples.

Posted by: blowitoutchaass at June 6, 2006 01:10 AM

Hey crab in the barrel bitch isn't it time to go to bed? Like I said you aint no 35 year old. Stop talking outta ass bitch. Ha. You sound that that nigga Star. Trying to bring family into the beef. What a bitch move! HAHAHAHAHAHA!! That is soooo 1992. I see the ignorant fuck I just triggered from your crab in the barrel ass. You make me laugh. Is that the best you got Uncle Tom?

your bitch-ass stan : Bullshit nigga, I'd kick seven shades of shit out of that oversized lizard and you know it.

Bill O Rielly is a fag

I co sign wit gangteen

EnglandRepresent vs. SpaceGodzilla

EnglandRepresent vs. bxconnect

EnglandRepresent vs. King Kong

EnglandRepresent vs. The Smog Monster

EnglandRepresent vs. Mothra

EnglandRepresent vs. SpaceGodzilla
^^ I'd knock that pussy into Saturn
EnglandRepresent vs. King Kong
^^ Monkey boy would get fucked up
EnglandRepresent vs. The Smog Monster
^^ Tougher one to call but I'd say I'd win cos I'd get Captain Planet to come to the rescue.

oh yeah and just cos I'm thinkin of it
bxconnect killer = your bitchass stan

LOL. see i dont want oprah money, i'm proud of all our black accomplishments but just put HIPHOP in rotation every other month,damn! some white people really love this thing HIPHOP 2. peace

EnglandRepresent vs. King Ghidorah

oh yeah and just cos I'm thinkin of it
bxconnect killer = your bitchass stan

Posted by: EnglandRepresent at June 6, 2006 01:35 AM

wow, you're as smart as bxconnect! actually you can even ask the blogmaster that it's not me, so have a nice day!

EnglandRepresent vs. Gigan

EnglandRepresent vs. Hedrorah

So how come bxconnect killer and you bitch-ass stan post within a minute of each other, smells fishy to me and it ain't your girl's pussy.

EnglandRepresent vs. Ogra

EnglandRepresent vs. Rodan

EnglandRepresent vs. Gorgosaurus

you wan't to ask the blogmaster on this one? sorry er, you're obviously not as smart as you think you're. you're just mad because i exposed bxconnect as a fraud last friday, now of course since he's one of your online "homies" you're going to make false accusations, but nice try though, but i see why you weren't a detective.

EnglandRepresent vs. Mecha-Godzilla

Not to get in between you guys arguments, but I happen to stay in an impovershed area in my hometown of Lafayette,LA. All I can say is dudes like you who put your own people down is wrong what your implicating is genocide not to mention your talking some ridiculous stuff, furthermore not all people from the ghetto is as simple minded and violent like you portray us to be. I aspire to be something in life and I want to get my family to a better living situation and make their lives comfortable so they dont have to suffer anymore. I cant really knock the streets because alot of these cats is starving so they do whatever they have to do to survive, even though they know it is wrong to do. Did you ever consider that no matter how rich you are, where your from, and who you know doesn't really matter? Im not preaching im just showing that im a humble dude but my point is that God judges us all according to how we live our lives and how we treat each other, I dont necessarily think he approves of you undermining folks just because they cant help what happens to them in these ghettos. So your saying its their fault their poor? Is it their fault that they murder each other? Is it their fault they don't have all of the necessities you possess? Im just honestly wishing that people would stop looking down on their fellow brothers and sisters and just try and give everyone a chance because really once upon a time if I recall, we used to be in the fields picking cotton and being beaten for no damn reason. We used to be murdered just because of beautiful dark skin. Our beautiful Black Women were being raped and giving birth to mulatto babies dirtying our blood making us lose whatever chance we have of tracing our roots to whatever tribe we come from. Mr. Suburbs im speaking to you as a gentleman and as respectable as I can the point im trying to make to you is that if you want things to change sometimes you have to try to get deeper into the problem to further understand it, once you do this I can guarentee you'll find a solution to the problem because quite frankly my friend its not that hard to figure out. And with the upmost respect your just helping these white folks by downin us so why dont you think about that before you bring your own people down better yet check your skin color and go in a retail store for assitance and you'll get treated just like the "Crabs" you so affectionaly call us. 1

EnglandRepresent vs. Gamera

Not to get in between you guys arguments, but I happen to stay in an impovershed area in my hometown of Lafayette,LA. All I can say is dudes like you who put your own people down is wrong what your implicating is genocide not to mention your talking some ridiculous stuff, furthermore not all people from the ghetto is as simple minded and violent like you portray us to be. I aspire to be something in life and I want to get my family to a better living situation and make their lives comfortable so they dont have to suffer anymore. I cant really knock the streets because alot of these cats is starving so they do whatever they have to do to survive, even though they know it is wrong to do. Did you ever consider that no matter how rich you are, where your from, and who you know doesn't really matter? Im not preaching im just showing that im a humble dude but my point is that God judges us all according to how we live our lives and how we treat each other, I dont necessarily think he approves of you undermining folks just because they cant help what happens to them in these ghettos. So your saying its their fault their poor? Is it their fault that they murder each other? Is it their fault they don't have all of the necessities you possess? Im just honestly wishing that people would stop looking down on their fellow brothers and sisters and just try and give everyone a chance because really once upon a time if I recall, we used to be in the fields picking cotton and being beaten for no damn reason. We used to be murdered just because of beautiful dark skin. Our beautiful Black Women were being raped and giving birth to mulatto babies dirtying our blood making us lose whatever chance we have of tracing our roots to whatever tribe we come from. Mr. Suburbs im speaking to you as a gentleman and as respectable as I can the point im trying to make to you is that if you want things to change sometimes you have to try to get deeper into the problem to further understand it, once you do this I can guarentee you'll find a solution to the problem because quite frankly my friend its not that hard to figure out. And with the upmost respect your just helping these white folks by downin us so why dont you think about that before you bring your own people down better yet check your skin color and go in a retail store for assitance and you'll get treated just like the "Crabs" you so affectionaly call us. 1

Posted by: Carlos Marcello at June 6, 2006 01:45 AM

Did I ever say I support the white people? Nope. Did I say I was helping them out? Nope. Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I support the blacks in the suburbs that are stereotyped as criminals dumbfuck. The one that are living right and still get DWB'ed. Please save the tears because all I ever hear from hood niggas is bullshit. They never take responsibility for their actions. It is always "da hoods" fault which again is BS.

bxconnect killer : So how come you've suddenly popped up when you had'nt in any blogs but as soon as I mentioned your name, you're here talkin shit. That to me means that you're 'your bitch-ass stan' as well. My detective work is thorough kid, how come you've popped up all of a sudden, either you were postin as someone else, Suburbs Nigga, or you're 'your bitch-ass stan', which one's it gonna be?

Is it their fault that they murder each other?

What the fuck are yousaying? Are you saying that folks that kill should not be held to account? If you dont, them your entire post is bullshit. Again explain N.W.A.?

One more thing before I go, I also would like to tell everyone here that I think Oprah is such a positive and wonderful example of being black and setting your own standard she basically personfies what success is. Please don't down her but I do think she should combine her efforts with Hip Hop through these two entties Blacks would be able to truly conquer any obstacle these white folks throw at us. Why can't we just combine everything and build upon it we can accomplish so much if we just work together and get people to understand us and stop portraying us as animals that deserve cages instead of freedom. I mean what the hell did the Civil Rights Movement was for if we cant get together and make things better for us I mean shit its getting harder for us every year to make strides We have yet to put a black man/woman in the presidency, We still haven't solved any murders regarding our treasured Icons Big and Pac, and we still havent gotten the same damn privilages as the whites so I mean what the hell are we fighting each other for when we should all work together? Look at the Koreans, Italians, Mexicans, Indians they all stick together and make sure everybody is eating. We've been so damn oppressed for so long we dont even know how to say hello to one another because we figure its every man/woman for themselves. I think we should stop thinking and take action because truthfully we have more power and say so then these whites ever have, we have the power to change, We have the power to expose the truth not the truth but The TRUE Truth. Its up to us to change the world now not later not tomorrow but NOW!!!!!! We are all leaders we need to stop bickering and stand up for ourselves or we will be extinct. Ponder on that and take that into consideration. 1

Damn. SO much hate in the world. Anyway I think both of them are great. Oprah is good at her thang just like Ludacris and Cube are good at rapping.

I got love for both of em

Thats pretty selfish to defend only one group we all in this together whether you like it or not and yes you are helping these white folks because white folks love it when niggas fight amongst themselves. And the point I was trying to make is that every person is responsible for his/her own actions. But still you don't get it your just tripped out because you obviously don't know anything about hip hop. see Hip Hop is sort of like reporting, When NWA came out and true enough the records they put out were controversial but they were reporting what was going on in the streets because honestly whites had their heads up their asses and acted like nothing was going on in our community all they ever did was shove it in their faces and made them realize what was going on they realized hip hop was uncontrollable and they were getting afraid because their kids were listening to it as hard as they tried they could not stop those records from getting to their kids stereo systems. If NWA hadn't come out we would all still be complaining to these whites about all our problems. To this day they still do nothing but at aleast we can annoy they hell out of them and make them do something about it. Thats what they were about. Now as for them talking about the negative stereotypes I admit it was a bit much but still in all im glad they exposed the shit going down in the streets. And aint nobody said they took responsibility for their actions because I pray everyday and homie where im from shit what talkin about people would just look at you and laugh because you sound so foolish and ignorant. So just quit bein so anti black and get with the program aint nothing change even if all hood niggas die because these whites dont give a damn about you. straight up 1

I'm out.

One more question for you.... After all of us "Crabs" is dead don't you think the whites will kill you off too? Like I said it dont matter where you stay you black and they hate you so guess what you next after they get "us" all....

you really think thay er? you do know that obviously alotta people are posting as you right? well if that's what you think then i'll say this, you and bxconnect are members of x-plicit records. i have a good theory on this listen to it.

everytime someone is arguing with you or bxconnect, you always blame it on young dollaz, why? because bxconnect is x-plicit and you englandrepresent are young dollaz. either that or you're hoodlum, or hoodlum is young dollaz. why do i say this? well hoodlum's grammar is very similar to young dollaz, and well you three imbeciles always big each other up.

and on the question why did i just pop up, i always see you popping up whenever your stan would post as you, so was it really just englandrepresent posting gay shit? was it that he needs attention so bad?

obviously i'm correct, so yeah, so the two of us have theories don't we?

oh and for the third time now, you can even e-mail the blogmaster, and ask him if my ip or even my e-mail address matches that of suburbs nigga or bitch ass stan.

and if you still don't believe me after the blogmaster would give you an e-mail, well then, someones in denial then. like i said have a nice day, you can respond to this, but i don't really see the point in doing it, just e-mail the blogmaster if you need proof that it's not me. and nice try on bigging up bxconnect aka x-plicit, do you guys have some gay thing going on?

Posted by: Carlos Marcello at June 6, 2006 02:12 AM

Again when I say I support white people? I suggest you re-read my post crab in the barrel. Shut the fuck up and stop putting words in my mouth. So I see you support violence no doubt. NWA killed our image period. 50 Cent and G-Unit, Suge and Deathrow, Ja and Murder INC, all bullshit. I dont give a fuck about white folks again I support brothas doing right and working hard. Most hood niggas dont do right. Yeah Im eating good out here aint gotta deal with you crabs in the barrel. Like I said I support Oprah because she is positive. I dont support rappers because they talk about bullshit. I dont give a fuck about your situation or any other hood niggas for that matter. 2 wrongs never make a right. I hate hood niggas cuz their the reason for all this "all young black are criminal" thing out their. Yo ass supports that bullshit so shut the fuck up please bitch I could care less about you crabs in the barrel. Kill off the hood niggas and the streets are safer.

^^

well you have it now, obviously suburbs nigga, is your bitch ass stan. and if that was me, explain how i could type so much at the time of 2:31?? explain it if you need to now.

SUBURBS NIGGA
YOUR BITCH ASS STAN
^
.
JARON JACKSON
JUSTYN WILLIAMS

ALL ME BITCHES!!! BLOC 12 NIGGA!!

Yo X-Bloc, are you Mike,SW,Htown?

I HAD ALL YA BITCHES FOOLED!!!!
MEET ME ON DA 12TH NIGGAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

lmao, alright i'll admit i'm just calling bxconnect x-plicit just to see what his reaction is, but i'll say this though to you englandrepresent, i'm not your bitch ass stan or am i suburbs nigga, my beef wasn't even with you. i just saw how bxconnect always blames shit on young dollaz, so i wanted to mess with him, if i offended you two i'm sorry, even though i exposed bxconnect.

my apologies though, i hope you accept them.

x-bloc, i have a question, are you young dollaz? if so, is bxconnect x-plicit? i just wan't to know.

OH YEAH AND MIKE,SW,HTOWN TOO!

I HAD ALL YA FOOLED!!!!!!!

FUCK IM GOOD!!!

BLOC 12 NIGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

x-bloc, i have a question, are you young dollaz? if so, is bxconnect x-plicit? i just wan't to know.

Posted by: bxconnect killer at June 6, 2006 02:42 AM

well, are you? and if so, is bxconnect x-plicit?

NOPE! I ANIT A RAPPER! I CANT RAP WORTH SHIT! YOUNG DOLLAZ IS SOMEONE ELSE. I DONT RAP!

BLOC 12 NIGGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

really? oh well, see well i guess this wraps that up, even though young dollaz couldn't rap worth shit....hmm?

NO BULLSHIT! I DONT KNOW NUTIN BOUT NO X-PLICIT RECORDS OR BXCONNECT BUT I WAS POSTIN AS HIM. REMEMBER "ONE LOVE"? DAT WAZ ME!!!

MAN IM GOOD AT THIS SHIT!

ONE MO THING:

IM ALSO BLACK FRIDAY AND SHAKEEM TOO!!!

PEACE MUTHAPHUCKAZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BLOC 12 NIGGAZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!
STAY OUT OF TOLEDO!!!!!!!!!!

lmao!! you were the one posting "one love" damn man, you should be a spy or something, you're good at that seriously. i didn't think it was you man, keep doing the good work though man. so you were all those people? damn man, i didn't even know!! did you ever post as englandrepresent and are you just wonderin the guy who acts like meccadon?

bxconnect killer : lol, yup there you have it, bitch-ass stan = suburbs nigga. Apologies son, looks like I got your back up a bit, just to clarify, I am not from the X-Plicit Records team, I can actually spell and I know words longer than 2 syllables.

ok then er, it's all good then, i think i might have to rethink my theories also, but who knows? like i said though, last friday i just wanted to get a reaction out of bxconnect and well i did.

TO THE LAME WHO POSTS AS BXCONNECT KILLER & X-BLOCK {YOUNG DUMBASS}

YOU HAVE TO BE BORED TO HOLD A CONVERSATION W/ YOURSELF ONLINE.

TO MAKE THAT BELIEVABLE, PUT SOME SPACE BETWEEN YOUR REPLIES TO YOURSELF, DUMBASS!!!

that's deep to be real and to be legitimely black u have to be po'? so then this goes for every black person in history some sren't real if they never had tough times?Then why do we strive to be rich?What's the point in having a dream ?itmay fuck around and come true then woops oh ooh there goes your blackness!! when africans say that about us being all mixed blood and having clean drinking water and shit r"rich niggers" and they diss us for not being jungle enough we want to kick their ass. i don't give a fuck where u from your as black as u know u r!!! where i'm from the wealthy drug dealers move to the suburbs,wis.,mi,the boondocks where only a few niggaz know where they live have big ass houses and never bring hood shit home that's why they dowhat they do to get outta dumbshit they just don't know when to stop before they get inevitably taken down.and these niggaz r straight killaz but they lawn is mowed and watered r they mulatto?? just half black?

Whatever Oprah. She think just because she got oodles of money niggaz cant say shit to her that they felt she was wrong about. I think Cube should have been on the show about Black.White and luda was not treated fairly. Oprah need to stop being so damn stuck up....WORD TO OPRAH: Stop worrying about what cube and luda say in their raps and worry about stedman

Its obvious that almost no-one on this board watches Oprah. Because if you did you'd understand that the basis of Oprah's show is self-improvement and empowerment.

Oprah is responsibly aware of her influence and uses her show and power to help others improve the quality of their lives.

Hiphop is just not her level and has nothing of any real substance to offer her or her audience. A rapper on Oprah would only be put on the hot seat and roasted over her coals.

I think Cube is simply using his "beef" with Oprah to get free pub and attention since he drops his CD on the 6th. Cube, Luda and everybody else need to understand that actions have consequences. And since he has the right to make any music he wants, rap about whatever he wants, then he must understand he may have to deal with the consequences of doing what he wants. The consequence in this instance is that a 52 year old black woman may not like his music. This 52 year old woman happens to be a cagillionaire wiht a TV show. He can't be mad. Just like he gets to do his thing, so can she so she has the right NOT to have him on her SHOW, just like he has the right NOT to have Vanilla Ice on his CD. Same thing, quit bitchin'...Take it like a man and quit whinin' 'bout "She don't like me> Man UP.

You guys indulge Oprah a little too much. Though she is an influential speaker, do you really think that white Amerikkka cares? To them she's still a nigger! They'll put her on a pedastol for awhile, but will shoot her down at the first chance they get. Look at Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, and so on. Even some of our favorite artists have been "linked to some sort of drug habit" when they died, to tarnish their remarkable reputations. This is all that the media needs, to pull her down, and destroy her empire. Just like the rest. Who knows, this could all be a media ploy to start her ending...

Think about it: Black-on-black feuding= sales, ratings, and most importantly, MONEY for the corporate crackers.
Don't get it twisted, the Klan is alive and well... their just operating in a different form.

LOL im laughin at you Mr.Suburbs because unlike you I don't pity my race for their faults everyone isnt perfect not even you so I mean if you gotta be all up tight cus you support a mass Genocide you might as well be working for the whites. And of course you dont support white people by not saying you do, but by your actions. So ponder on that homie by the way don't you hear them marchin to lynch you?

Anyone who thinks Luda was treated unfairly didn't see the show. Luda is mad because the subject of videos came up, but that's because they were talking about the word NIGGER since the subject was CRASH.

Why is Luda such a pussy that he goes crying to the white media just because his rap career was mentioned?

God if people think Oprah was tough on Luda, they obviously never saw how Oprah treated that lying white frat boy James Frey. Oprah beat the living shit out of him for an entire hour to the point where he couldn't even come up with words to defend himself. She made him look like the world's biggest fool.

Luda was treated with dignity & came off looking good. Luda was also there with 2 other black actors who agreed with the word NIGGA against Oprah.

Luda supposed to be such a big tough rapper starts crying like a little bitch when his rap career mentioned for 2 seconds, meanwhile that white suburban frat boy James Frey doesn't complain when Oprah BEAT THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF HIM for an hour of live TV!

If Oprah hates hip-hop why did she have Kanye West, Will Smill, P Diddy, LL Cool J, Queen Latifa, Bowow, Ice Tea, little Eve, Marry Joe, etc on her show.

Oprah does NOT hate hip hop. Oprah even went on Ed Lover to say she doesn't hate hip-hop. Oprah was even nice enough to praise Luda & 50 cent after they sold her out to the white media.

Ice Cube is just an opportunist who is selling the richest, most generous, most influential black in the world down the river to get free publicity & to try to extort her into having him on his show.

If Oprah were white he wouldn't dare try that crap because he knows the white media would destroy him.

As long as blacks attack their own the white media encourages it.

It's bad enough when white people dog on Oprah, but when black people do it it's really ignorant.

Oprah has given more money to charity than any black ever. HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars. Howmuch has Luda given?

Oprah goes to Africa every year & has adopted kids there. Has Luda ever been to Africa?

Oprah's building a leadership academy for girls in South Africa.

Oprah got white America to give TENS of Millions of dollars to black causes. How much money do the little white boys who listen to Luda give to black causes?

Oprah was in the Superdome walking through mountains of shit & piss after Katrina. Where was Luda?

Oprah brought down truck loads of food & water. Oprah sent doctors down & other celebs who also brough truck loads of supplies all thanks to Oprah's Angel network.

Oprah actually looks black, unlike Ice Cube.

Oprah's actually from the worst ghetto in Milwaukee, unlike that college boy Luda.

Oprah never bleached her skin or narrowed her nose like Michael Jackson & many others in entertainment.

Oprah put black Toni Morrison on the best-seller list many times, Oprah brought the Color Purple to broadway with huge success, Oprah's produced countless black films including BELOVED where she played a slave. What has Luda done for other black artists?

SO DON'T YOU DARE TALK SHIT ABOUT OPRAH!

I LIKE OPARAH ALOT N I RESPECT HER OPINION BUT LETS B 4 REAL.OPARAH DON'T KNOW WERE THESE DUDES COMING FROM.SHE THINK AL HIP HOP IS BAD CAUSE MOST RAPPERS ONLY TALK ABOUT KILLIN,GETTIN PUSSY,AND DRUGS!!!BUT SOME RAPPERS TALK ABOUT HOW THEY GOT OUT THE HOOD AND THE SHIT THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH.FOLKS LIKE 2PAC,ICECUBE,T.I. AND THE REST.IF SHE TOOK HER TIME AND LISTEN TO SOME REAL HIP HOP (2PAC,BIGGIE,ICECUBE,EAZY-E)MAYB SHE'LL UNDERSTAN HIP HOP.

here we go again about how much money oprah got & how many rich friends she sip latte with! listen this not about that, my argument is about being treated fairly when it comes to your job to report and broadcast today's top stories, so nobody should dare question oprah's professionalism, ever! i guess 50,luda,cube are not worthy to be on her show or HIPHOP not a top story, huh! get your own money & stop idolizing celebrities shitt! all of you just wanna have oprah's money, to blow & fuck-up! be honest ass-kissers, lol

Once again, and this only applies to those who ACT before they THINK!

U silly niggas need to understand THE REAL. Oprah could EXPOSE to the masses all the recent SENSELESS violence attached to hip-hop ( TI,Proof,Bustas body guard, etc) and portray a picture of niggas completely out of control, all hip-hop related. Niggas can say " it's on some street shit ", but that don't matter. Being smart is knowing WHO to fuck wit, and who NOT to fuck wit. If you win the battle, but lose the war, now you've fucked yourself.

I've said this shit before on this site, niggas in hip-hop is gonna fuck around and they gonna BAN gangsta rap at some point. And they'll only have themselves to blame. Instead of making good music and welcoming new niggas in the game, U gonna see more niggas shootin at niggas on freewways, or at concerts ( the dumbest shit on the planet and for no apparent reason ) and it'll be a wrap for Gangsta Rap. U let 20-30 cats get killed at a concert and I GUARANTEE U, the government will come in and end A LOT OF NIGGAS MONEY. U see Snoop is BANNED over seas. ( I forget the country ).

Any cat that says all this BULLSHIT is "just a part of Hip Hop" is a dumb ass nigga. Competing on the MIC IS, shootin at niggas at video shoots and on freeways is 100% Hoe Shit!

Thats real talk 4 yo azz!

Competing on the MIC IS, shootin at niggas at video shoots and on freeways is 100% Hoe Shit!
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thats the only sensible shit i found that you said, homie. i can tell you waiting patiencely for the white man to scoop down and put hiphop niggas in check, huh! or better yet,oprah will lead a group of fiery-ass middle class white ladies to boycott DEF JAM(hell, even shut it down). glad you clowns making my workday funny & easy.

Oprah's had Russel Simmons & a dozen hip-hop stars on her show. Does she have to interview every single hip hop star on the planet? Does she have to love all hip-hop? Is she not allowed to disagree with being called a BITCH & a NIGGA?

she dont have to agree with shit, nigga. thats why she getting call out! since when open debate's are bad? i understand ur favorite icon, inwhich who can tell your ass what to do and what to think, you'll hurt your feet doing it. oprah may have a little storm of controversy,but at the end of the day life goes on, so should you!

For you older folks please read!
Honestly I know the beef Luda and Cube have with Oprah and they're right
what I see with the Oprah fans here is
because she's a positive figure and has given so much (which is beautiful) most of you already have a huge bias against rap (not hip-hop but most of you don't know there's a difference)that your ignoring the facts and just taking Oprahs side for GP. Some of your comments make no sense.
FIRST RAP ARTIST ARE OUT OF CONTROL. But the problem people have is when those of you that don't listen to the music generalize all artist and the entire culture into one negative ball.
Reality is this Luda is the wrong target for anyone war on rap. Luda is merely a free-spirited entertainer. To have a problem with Luda music is the same as have a problem with Dave Chappell or any comic. There are artist that spew true negativity but Luda is not the one. Luda's music doesn't imulate reality. If you bought it you'd know this. Plus I never hear Luda going to jail getting caught with weed or in any violent situations like tons of other artists. I honestly hear more about him doing free shows at colleges and high schools and donating to charity more. So stop wasting time dissin Luda Oprah was dead wrong for trying to use him as a vehicle to attack the negativity in rap music. Luda is not the problem!So everyone on this blog calling him out is not supporting oprah your just proving you don't know what your talking about!
I feel oprah can do some good
I agree with alot of the issues people have with Rap music. I also feel at some point it will be banned or censored. But Rap is not a cancer on society. What most of you think it Rap is influencing reality and children the truth is rap is a reflection of a mentality that's already there. Some of these rappers didn't know how to act before they got record deals. Most of these rappers where criminals before they got signed. They're not dictating what goes on in your neighborhood they're talking about what was and is already going on in your neighborhood. You wanna save your kids stop blaming rap. Get your son in a after school program and make sure he goes. Before Rodney from around the corner takes him under his wing and has him thinkin his cool cause his stomping wit the big dawgs. Trust me I know every dealer needs someone they can trust to maximize their profit so they get in kids heads at the youngest age possible

Fuck gettin' out, my reputation is stout, if my money ain't legit, your momma's heart gets ripped out.

Big Oprah, a psycho indeed, I won't stop whoopin' your ass, till your motha fuckin' blood bleed, bitch!!!

Check the cut every night about 10, see a trick tryin' to slap one of my bitches again. I had to be cool, the last dude I mopped up, left his ass bleedin' in a garbage bag chopped up. Big Oprah, got so much clout, by the time I stepped up, my nigga Stedman done took him out. So I fade, it's time to get paid, bitches I played still cut for me switch blades. In Chicago, I'm sharp as cactus, punks I hate, plus my gun, equalls mack 10 target practice. I wish a nigga would think he's playin' me, see his girl on the street, in a g-string payin' me. Think it's a game? You think I'm trippin'? Cool. Ask you lil sista' why the fuck she been skippin' school. Her brotha stepped up, he wasn't quick enough, now he's bleedin' on my shoes, man ya'll better come pick him up.

FUCK OPRAH WINDBAG!

AND STOP THE BLACK N BLACK. THE WHITE MEDIA IS GONNA EAT THIS UP.

SQUASH IT YO. ITS NOT WORTH IT

"For you older folks please read!
Honestly I know the beef Luda and Cube have with Oprah and they're right
what I see with the Oprah fans here is
because she's a positive figure and has given so much (which is beautiful) most of you already have a huge bias against rap (not hip-hop but most of you don't know there's a difference)that your ignoring the facts and just taking Oprahs side for GP."

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First, watch the show where Luda appeared and you'll see that he was never attacked and that HE'S the one overreacting.

Second, no one is taking Oprah's side for GP. The way this entire issue was initiated by Luda, 50, & Cube was just way more disrespectful than anything Oprah has EVER publically said about hiphop.

Their attack on her is sooo conducive to the common stereo types associated with Hiphop. So how can anyone really take them seriously and hear them out when they're acting as expected.... disrespectful black men that don't give a fuck.

Its an issue of respect and that is what the hiphop generation is missing: respect for themselves, respect for our history, and respect of our neighbors accomplishments.

For those who want to dis on Oprah, ya need to shut the F!@K up. All this black on black shit needs to stop. Oprah grew up worst than any of these rappers would ever know. She grew up when Jim Crow laws where really in affect mode in the south and she was dirt broke. I respect Luda and Ice Cube but, crying and dissing Oprah is not going to do a damn thing. I actually expect a lot more from ICe Cube. 50 Cent is just a idiot along with Killer Mike. Everyone worried about Oprah ya'll motherfuckas need to be worried about Bush.

hey yall i aint gotta opinion on the oprah vs. hip hop bullshit. im just wonderin why a lotta tall be talkin shit like all white people like 50 cent like its only white people or somethin. now i am white so yall might say im just listenin to mainstream rap and shit but im a true fan or rap/hip hop. i listen to 50 cent cuz hes good not cuz hes popular and on the radio(he is however starting to become a retard beefin with errbody that comes to mind). i also listen to 2pac and ice cube and shit, so if yall sayin that white people only listen to mainstream rap then yall callin 2pac,n.w.a., and old school mobb deep mainstream, AND THATS BULLSHIT
how bout all yall stick to the topic of oprah and hip hop and stop makin racist statements bout music. only the preppy rich white people listenin to mainstream only. other white rap fans actually listenin to rap thats not on the radio too.

Oprah NEVER disrespected Luda. I also have the show on tape. All she said was "I have a tough time with some of your lyrics, but you did a GREAT job in this movie!"

How is that disrespecting the man? Later Oprah just told a story about Africans saying NIGGA & when she asked them why they mentioned the videos. At that point Oprah just smiled at Luda, & he started laughing.

So Oprah NEVER disrespected Luda, Luda came off the show looking just fine.

Oprah never disrespected hip-hop either, but she does have a problem with the word NIGGA, BITCH & HO.

Listen to Oprah's interview with Ed Lover. She loves hip-hop as an art form but doesn't feel its nessecary to use those words to make good music.

Obviously Oprah needs to say something to Luda. It was WOMEN who made Oprah rich. She can't sell WOMEN out by not mentioning his lyrics.

Think about it!

Also Oprah's show is VERY popular with TEACHERS. Oprah LOVES teachers since Oprah was a good student & teachers got Oprah out of the ghetto.

Teachers in the ghetto are trying to teach kids propper grammer & meanwhile these rappers are encouraging kids to talk shit.

Oprah has to side with the teachers which is why she tries to only have POSITIVE rappers on like Kanye West & Will Smith.

Oprah is VERY popular so she has the freedom to do POSITIVE shows. A lot of these rappers want to be positive but they know it wont sell.

Oprah uses her power to put a spotlight on those rappers who want to be positive. EVERYONE dreams of going on Oprah. Why should she invite negative rappers on when POSITIVE rappers like Kanye West and Will Smith want so badly to come on, & deserve to come on?

As Oprah said to Ed Lover, the music is so good. Why ruin it by saying NIGGA & BITCH?

If a rapper has no talent, you say NIGGA to get attention, but Oprah feels they have enough talent they can sell their music without that.

Oprah said rappers have so much power in the young community & she sees the potential for good. That's why she promotes POSITIVE rappers.

Oprah said Luda is BRILLIANT & that's why she expects so much from him.

Oprah knows how powerful rappers are so she has to be careful wich ones she decides to empower more.

DA KIDD
WRONG
you don't know all the damn facts
I saw freekin the show
and she showed luda to be uninterested
and upset at times and he was left out of alot of the conversations
you also don't appear to know what Luda went through just to get on the show. Because he wasn't initially invited, he had to fight his way on through his manager. They invited the entire cast except him and after Oprah pulled him.
She did the same ish to Cube when the enitre cast of white and black and he was the damn executive producer of the show. Then Luda states he made a ton of comments that were edited off the show. Which is wierd because of who Luda is and his character in the movie played a major role! None of this is
a coincidence dakidd! What she did was immature and Luda is right he was there as an actor not a rapper she didn't have to go there and in both incidences the movie and cube's show were about positivity and she didn't support quote unquote rappers doing something positive which technically makes her a hypocrite. I'm not a Oprah hater but wrong is wrong. Know the whole story before you go poppin at the mouth.

Second it's not hip hop its the hood your refering to. Also hip-hop and rap are not the same! hip-hop is creative and subject matter driven rap is substanceless. This is not a hip hop mantality its the mantality this is the mantality of people from the hood that lived the life and use rap to make a fortune.

Banga, We all have the show on tape so we know what went down.

I've watched it TEN TIMES & nothing rude was said to Luda. Luda was not make to look like a fool. He came off looking like a good actor.

Yes he was there as an actor, but the movie was about race so the topic turned to NIGGA which turned to videos which turned to Ludacris rap career since he was sitting right there.

And Luda got more air time than Matt Dillon & some of the others, so how was Luda excluded?

Luda BULLIED his way on the show in the first place so he shouldn't have even been there.

Luda is pissed he got edited. Well as you may recall Terrance Howard had a story of real racism on an airplane that took up an entire segment. Obviously they need to edit to make room for that.

Oprah was even nice enough to talk to Luda one on one after the show. Have you any idea how many people would kill for that opportunity?

As for Ice Cube, he should be greatful Oprah promoted a movie he produced. Think of all the money Cube made thanks to $000000000prah!!!!!!!!

First off all that oprah does is good and appreciated, but that is a way to get over on taxes all that she does throughout the year she gets back on taxes as donations, second oprah hasnt had a black following since her national telivised show in forsyth county, Ga. any atliens from back in the day (mid 80's) know what im talkin bout. so let oprah do her thang and this is america free speech in other word a muthafucka can say what they want

I'm black, my whole family is black, and all my friends are black and we all LOVE Oprah because she's alsways promoting POSITIVE black images, producing black art, & giving HUNDREDS of MILLIONS to taxes (and no it's not all tax deductable-Oprah gives away way more money than people worth TEN TIMES as much)

I know there's a huge amount of jealousy of Oprah in the black community since she's the ONLY black billionaire but by attacking Oprah, blacks are only hurting themselves.

kool you sound like another Oprah dk rider
yeah yeah got more time than dillon
but Matt character wasn't on screen as much as Luda's and Luda's character was more controversial. And he didn't Bully his way on the show. Plus if the cast is there and Luda is on the cast he should be there too! there is no he shouldn't be there when his character played a major role in the movie and she invites the cast except him your co signing to bullsh#@! (you'd have a point if Luda was an extra but he wasn't)Plus she did the same immature BS to Cube. How do you invite his entire cast and not the producer when its his show. You don't make any sense your just cosigning to Oprah and you sound stupid! You think Cube needs money! you think he had to do a show like that you can't be serious!
you have any idea how beneficial it would be to have Cube on her show talking about being a film producer when no school background coming from South Central! your cosigning cause its Oprah but your not putting any thought to the real reason why their upset.

A lot of white women get all their exposure to blacks by watching Oprah. Maybe Oprah doesn't want whites to think that black men are all sexist pigs that call women BITCHES. Maybe that's why Oprah prefers to promote the goodey-goodey rappers like Will Smith & avoids Luda & Cube.

The rest of the media keeps trying to empower negative black stereotypes. Oprah's the only media showing the positive side & some blacks are so stupid they're attacking her for it.

Just because you're not intelligent enough to comprehend Oprah's motives is no reason to diss her.

Also as the mother of the black community, Oprah tries not to reward black who misbehave.

She probably didn't want Luda or Cube on because that's REWARDING men who made millions calling women bitches.

To have them on the show and praise them sends the message that they're good role models.

Oprah doesn't want to have to discipline them on TV so she just ignores them.

But when Luda FORCED himself on her show, she had no choice but to say something so that viewers don't think Oprah approves of him. That would send the wrong message.

yall act like Luda and Cube are Porn kings exploiting black woman
but let me guess thats the stereotype yall have on the entire rap industry
which is why you ignorantly say their making millions calling women bitches.
Yall sound like some of these immature bitter broads that blame all black men for your problems.
If you have a good job in corporate america you'd know that white people although they have their stereotypes can tell the difference between blacks that know how to carry themselves with respect and class and Mutha-efer's from the hood. Don't give me that white america BS they'll hire and promote a black woman with no problem. They know damn well all yall aren't bitches and hoes. And they also complain about BET and rap videos. Trust me I know! I already said rap is outa hand but be honest about yall shit. Yall call your selves B all the damn time and nobodies twisting your damn arm to go buy the CD's or dance to the music at the club. Further more yall dress the same way in the streets and in the club as they do in the video's. And not all black women act like damn ladies. Don't get me wrong there are a lot of beautiful black woman, I have one. But if you act like a b's often enough sorry but you are one. If Oprah had a problem with 50, Jay-z, The Lox or some of these other artist who focus entirely on sex drugs and murder, I wouldn't say shit cause she'd be right. But for her to have a issue with Luda and Cube is proof
that she has a bias against all non-bubble gum rap artist & she's misinformed.
If she was talkin about artist that are the actual route of the problem there would be far less people defending them. But Luda and Cube are the wrong damn targets. You cry about rappers using the word bitch but the issue starts in the hood. To solve a problem you have to start at the source asking rappers to stop using it sweeps the real issue under the rug cause people around the way will still be using it.

If there was a white rapper who called blacks NIGGER should Oprah welcome him & praise him on her show?

So if white rappers can't call blacks NIGGER then male rappers can't call females BITCHES.

Both Luda & Cube wrote songs about bitches. Just as blacks call themselves NIGGER but don't want whites to, women may say BITCH but that doesn't mean mmen can.

In fact Oprah once told her audience, "if a man call you a cunt, I say RUN for YOUR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!"

with great power comes greater responsibility - it would be nice if Oprah stood the fuck up and said enough is enough and being the elder squashed the little silly ass games and reached out to the hip-hop community. Luda, Cube, 50, and Killa Mike voiced their opinions about her just like she did about them. But she needs to act her fucking age and realize that them white folks is playing us like pawns to create drama and make us look like violent monkeys! I say Oprah, because some of us are still young and dumb and think being a violent monkey is cool so the "bigger" person should take the iniative to stop this bullshit. Especially if you got all this cake, and you so powerful and shit. I know u do a talk show but stop talking about it and be about it!

Especially if you got all this cake, and you so powerful and shit. I know u do a talk show but stop talking about it and be about it!

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CHURCH!

I would never diminish the exceptional work Oprah has done [ I don't think anyone could] but,M.F's seem to be in awe of her and regard her opinions as the "law of the land". Having vast wealth does not put one above reproach, in fact it probably makes you more accountable to those who put you on this pedestal. My girl idolizes Oprah and feels that whatever Oprah says a relationship needs to flourish, is relevant to ours. I get bombarded with that bullsh@t after I get home from work. I told her maybe you should ask Oprah can you move in and you'll find out how "black" your ass really is. If you ain't a 30-ish white housewife from suburbia, you ain't getting the time of day from her highness. Don't feel you have take my word for it, the next time her show comes on and the camera pans around the studio audience,take note of the Joan to LaKeisha ratio. However, we [Men]all know this shit didn't start overnight her shows have always been slanted towards women, at times demonizing men.

Whatever it takes to get paid, huh Oprah?

Shawna and Luda engaged?
That's what I heard.

This is not yet fact. There are no hard evidents 'YET' like a engagement ring. But people talk and I listen.
Can anybody shed some light?

LETS BE FOR REAL HERE, OPRAH HELPS BLACK PEOPLE. THE ONES IN AFRICA, WHEN ITS HER PEOPLE OVER HERE THAT MAKES HER RICH. YEAH, OPRAH GOT MONEY BUT ITS BECAUSE OF US THAT SHE DO. SHE DONT GIVE BACK TO BLACKS OVER HERE. HELL BLACK RAPPERS MAKE MONEY OFF THEIR PEOPLE TOO. OVER PRICED SHOWS AND CLOTHING. WHY SHOULD PEOPLE BE HUSH HUSH ABOUT SHIT. THE COMMON PEOPLE HAVE THE MAJORITY SO AS LONG AS WE DONT BUY INTO BULLSHIT, ITS OUR DECISION WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS COUNTRY. OPEN UR EYES BLACK PEOPLE. WE GET RICH AND GET STUPID. LETS GET LIKE MINDED AND TAKE OVER THIS COUNTRY. WE CAN DO IT THROUGH MUSIC BUT WE TO DAMN IGNORANT TO THINK IN TERMS OF LOGICS. HELL, LETS GET OPRAH, MICHEAL JORDAN, SOME OF YALL RAPPERS THAT GOT SOME MONEY TO BUY UP SOME LAND AND MAYBE WE COULD OWN A MAJORITY IF THESE STATES AND TAKE OUR BLACK PEOPLE OUT THESE PROJECTS. ALL MY PEOPLE STACKED UP ON EACHOTHER LIKE SOME DAMN SARDINES. LETS GET TOGEHTER PEOPLE, HELL SOMEONE HAS TO START A NEW BLACK MOVEMENT.

LETS BE FOR REAL HERE, OPRAH HELPS BLACK PEOPLE. THE ONES IN AFRICA, WHEN ITS HER PEOPLE OVER HERE THAT MAKES HER RICH. YEAH, OPRAH GOT MONEY BUT ITS BECAUSE OF US THAT SHE DO. SHE DONT GIVE BACK TO BLACKS OVER HERE. HELL BLACK RAPPERS MAKE MONEY OFF THEIR PEOPLE TOO. OVER PRICED SHOWS AND CLOTHING. WHY SHOULD PEOPLE BE HUSH HUSH ABOUT SHIT. THE COMMON PEOPLE HAVE THE MAJORITY SO AS LONG AS WE DONT BUY INTO BULLSHIT, ITS OUR DECISION WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS COUNTRY. OPEN UR EYES BLACK PEOPLE. WE GET RICH AND GET STUPID. LETS GET LIKE MINDED AND TAKE OVER THIS COUNTRY. WE CAN DO IT THROUGH MUSIC BUT WE TO DAMN IGNORANT TO THINK IN TERMS OF LOGICS. HELL, LETS GET OPRAH, MICHEAL JORDAN, SOME OF YALL RAPPERS THAT GOT SOME MONEY TO BUY UP SOME LAND AND MAYBE WE COULD OWN A MAJORITY IF THESE STATES AND TAKE OUR BLACK PEOPLE OUT THESE PROJECTS. ALL MY PEOPLE STACKED UP ON EACHOTHER LIKE SOME DAMN SARDINES. LETS GET TOGEHTER PEOPLE, HELL SOMEONE HAS TO START A NEW BLACK MOVEMENT.

Just wanted to clear up something, Oprah is not the only black billionare nor was she the first. A black man by the name of, Robert L. Johnson, founder and CEO of BET holds that title.

I'll keep it short people, because I know this will fall on def ears......

First of all you people need to get out more and see what Oprah is talking about.
I'm from NYC 3rd gen of this culture.
I remember when real people rapped about real things.
Half of these rapper who talk about bitch /hoe /nigga .. grew up with a good life. Stop allowing bullshit to rep
for Black people !!!!!!
I travel the world all the time and what I find is that people Judge ALL black people by Rap MusiC.. ok say what you want, but the onesided image Rap currently displays is not a good one.
come on people we need to wake the HEll Up.. this image does not move us forward
is takes us back... How can we not see this.. Hip Hop is owned by corporations now.
no longer By the hood.. corporations tell us what we in the hood should hear??
take a sec and think about that???
really take a sec and try to justify
The trouble we are in a a people.
It's not all of Hip Hop, but the positive Rap doesn't get played....
why ?? (corporate control)
the world now looks at ever black person as niggas.... is this slavery all over again ???

and back to Oprah, .........Hip Hop,
people bigger than Oprah are out to destroy us ??? way front on orpah?
(sales of Hip Hop music has decreased considerablely. and seeing as though Women
purchase the majority of the music, How many times do they want to hear themsleves as bitches and Hoe's.....
and contrary to BET and MTV rapper's really don't make that much money unless
you're the top 5)

until Luda /cube /50 (not all rapper have a problem with oprah)
are able to give back a tenth to the
world what Oprah has ...........
I think they need to shut the F up

be easy
Tiv-1
(yeah I know that wasn't short)

oprah has bought land and rebuilt homes for katrina victims and went there in the middle of their horror when they were all confined to the stadiums. she has also worked diligently on building schools for young african girls (who have hiv, or have been raped, etc). are there any rappers who are doing this? you don't need to be a billionaire to get on a plane and help out at a shelter during the katrina disaster. instead of spending money on your rims and those tacky chains around your neck, why not put some hardworking kids through university for free?

it's funny that many people call her a "sell-out" yet these rappers are the very same people who rap about "bitches" and "hoes", and put usage and selling of drugs on a pedastal. and who buys the music? white kids. who's selling who out?

these rappers need to wake up. and to the person who said there are women who do do these things, so what. would you like someone to rap about your dirty laundry? these women need help, not exploitation to put money in the pocket of rappers who make music degrading these women.

do you really think a respectable businesswoman like oprah would really want men who rap these lyrics on her show? come on, you don't have to be a genius to figure this out. she's not catering to an audience, be it black or white, she firmly believes in the improvement not degration of the black community.

ludacris should be thankful that oprah complimented him on his performance in crash. she has a right to disagree on his music if she wants to. in addition, the producers will edit footage in order to fit it into a proper time schedule for the show. this is normal. perhaps of he read a book on tv production he'd know this.

if a white person doesn't listen to country music, does that mean he doesn't like the country community? no he just doesn't like the music. if a latino individual says he hates salsa, he just hates that kind of music. so why is it a huge backlash when a black person doesn't like hip-hop? get over it and start making better music. nobody owes you rappers anything. NOBODY!

Bob Johnson hasn't been listed as a billionaire since 2003 before his expensive divorce. According to Forbes, Oprah's been the world's ONLY black billionaire for the past 3 years.

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