The only people who really care about Oprah are housewives and soccer moms. Although his comments are true, why is Luda giving her stubborn ass the satisfaction by responding?
She should just continue to give away free stuff and quit trying to be an afternoon Sigmund Freud.
Posted by: caff at April 21, 2006 09:47 AM
I understand Luda's anger but Okra 's disposituion towards Hip-Hop artist must be taken with a grain of salt. As most of us know, people fear and hate what they don't understand. Okra is no different. She understands Hip-Hop about as much as I understand bringing a wagon full of animal fat on her show to display how much weight she's lost. Okra is not Hip-Hop's target audience. She actually can be lumped in with the Bill O'reillys of the world.
Posted by: skdamc at April 21, 2006 09:55 AM
FUCK OPRAH!!! THAT BITCH IS A BILLIONAIRE FROM MISSISSIPPI AND AIN'T DID SHYT BUT FURNISH A FEW HOMES THAT KEVIN GARNETT PAID TO BUILD SINCE HURRICANE KATRINA!!!
FUCK OPRAH!! SHE HAS BECOME A WHITE MUTHAFUKA WIT A GREAT TAN!!!
Posted by: Scottie Pimpin at April 21, 2006 10:21 AM
This dude Scottie Pimpin says a lot of off the wall shit, but I agree with him on this one. Oprah is borderling Uncle Tom in my book. But those "rich" Blacks are NEVER going to accept hip-hop UNLESS they were raised by hip-hop.
Fuck Oprah.
Posted by: chevy g. hustle at April 21, 2006 10:27 AM
You will not hear any Luda coming from the blearing speakers of most caravans ... therefore he becomes very irrelavant in the wide (and I do mean wide) world of Oprah. And at the very end of the day what could Luda do about it ... that's right folks .... NOTHING ... 1
Posted by: Zoo at April 21, 2006 10:27 AM
My gripe is this; if U're not a fan, why have him on your show? Yeah he played in "Crash", gave a performance that I thought was worthy of the Best Supporting Actor, but the world revolves around Opah (no typo, I call her Opah)let her tell it, but I seen that show, and soon as I seen how she edited Luda I changed channel, oh, and speaking of the View, ditto 4 Star "I got a man, so what if he's a fag" Jones, that broad is plastic too, claiming 2 be a Christian, but then wishing death upon Howard Stern, I hope her husband drops a bomb on her worse than what happened with Terri McMillan, if she wanted a real man, she should've came 2 ThatDude.
Big Ups 2 Tisha Campbell 4 sticking up 4 Luda, although her husband is a fucking vic 4 hatin' on her love scenes with Martin, yeah, Duane "I'm a 3rd rate hooper & actor" Martin got jealous.
Posted by: That Dude 4 President at April 21, 2006 10:30 AM
Okra is as whit as it gets she mite have given a couple of free stof awayb but forget the color of her skin
Posted by: LYNXXX at April 21, 2006 10:44 AM
Ludacris knows what kind of music he makes, so he shouldn't get offended when people come at him. He calls women bitches and says the N word all over his albums. To Oprah that's a double assault being a woman and being an African-American.
Comedians are there to make us laugh, so she must not take them as serious as she does a rapper.
Posted by: Georgia Bottom Boy at April 21, 2006 10:50 AM
Oprah is kind of a hypocrite, though.
Posted by: Georgia Bottom Boy at April 21, 2006 10:54 AM
OPRAH IS AN ALIEN SENT FROM THE PLANET
FAT WHITEIA SENT TO DESTROY ALL HIP HOP ARTIST CREDIBILTY AND TO RID THE WORLD OF THE GOOEY SWEET SUBSTANCE IN ALL OUR DUNKIN DONUTS SHE IS A TRUE EVIL GENIUS
Posted by: BIG COKE at April 21, 2006 11:02 AM
FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME!!! I have never heard a rapper say all women are bitches, But there are some in the world! If anyone belives okrah's ass aint never called someone a name is a idiot! She has a show about white folks for christ's sakes!!! You ever seen oprah bring some food to the hood???? All them cars and shit are tax write-offs!
Posted by: Rizzop2003 at April 21, 2006 11:04 AM
COME CHECK THE TRACK D-LINE ENT PRODUCE FOR TRAE, THREE SIX MAFIA AND PAUL WALL
Posted by: D-LINE at April 21, 2006 11:04 AM
Fuck Oprah, I've never seen her show and never will. Chris needs to go back to his old ways and air her out on a freestyle and then move on.
Posted by: JMizz at April 21, 2006 11:09 AM
I'm saying don't make a song called "She's A Hoeeeeeeee" and not expect a rich black woman of power to not take offense.
I agree with Harpo rappers are full of shit. She is easier on comedians because they are here to make us laugh, while a rappers claim to fame for over a decade now is "keepin' it real". Rappers always screamn' "We keep it real", then when faggots like O'Riley, Oprah, or whoever say something about the musical content, the first thing a rapper say is...(in a whinny voice) "It's just entertainment". Fuck out of here, which is going to be? Keepin' it Real or entertainment?
She still shouldn't have allowed the editors to edit his comments though. Unless his comments made him look stupid.
Posted by: August The 15teenth at April 21, 2006 11:21 AM
Yall know white folks love black culture right? Whenever they have the opportunity to become a part of it (in any way) they will jump at it. Ex: MJ23, b4 him you could get a ticket to a Bulls game, but once he came only white folks was at the games buyin up ALL the tickets.
50 Cent, nigga is on top and white people are lovin' him. His concerts sell out cause white folks want to be a part of that culture.
Oprah, fuck what yall sayin she is down for her people. White people again want to be a part of her so they fill her studio up, and they tune in at home. These 3 individuals done nothing different from the time they started they careers but blow up. The more you blow the more white people will follow.
None of these people should have to apologize for their success. Or a apologize to us for who pays to see them. "I'm sorry you broke ass niggaz don't want to see me but white people are paying top dollar to see me".
I think not.
Posted by: Samej at April 21, 2006 11:33 AM
NIGGAS make me sick. Ludacris used to be a sambo. Now he want to try to act o dignified now because he sees a chance to make money differntly. He need to go take chicken and beer eating ass back in his gumbo home and STFU. Oprah shouldn't have edited anything, let this monkey stick his own foot in his mouth. I think his black supporters are just as stupid. Ignorant black people are destroyed the community, regardless how much money they are making. Stephin Fechit was high paid once upon a time.
Posted by: Jkells at April 21, 2006 11:52 AM
Oprah is the one building schools in Africa, filming America's silent poor, discussing the plight of black Americans on at LEAST half of her shows. She's had everyone from Diddy to Three Six Mafia on her show so cut all that "war on rap" bullshit out.
Just because she doesn't preach about racism on every fukking show doesn't mean she's not leading frank discussions on social impropriety at least a couple of times each week.
And she didnt get at Luda that bad. She just said she aint like SOME of his lyrics. If she cut his comments so what? It's her show. It's not like Luda allots a portion of his album for the hoes to stage a rebuttal against what he says.
Posted by: Exactly, Samej at April 21, 2006 11:53 AM
Mannn! Ophra's a damn sell out, wannabe white, out of touch with her peoples ass nigga. She need to be chin checked, I don't care how much money that hoe got! She need a old fashion ass whoopin. Luda, don't sweat it dawg! Any black woman with that much cho' and no man is on some other shit! Wiz It
Posted by: Black Steele at April 21, 2006 12:16 PM
I'm confused with some of u...
When O had on karrine steffans folks was accusing her of playing down her couch,
now that she apparently made luda feel some kind of way,
she's "okra"(lol) and an uncle tom?
Oprah, is one of the most consistent sisters that is making waves ahead of the game.
Why is it that some1's Blackness has to be challenged when they select not to co-sign with everything Black.
Personally, I like luda but on a larger scale his music objectifies women, like much of the hip hop that's out there.
Oprah has enough clout that if she was pulling a bill oreily on luda she didn't have 2 invite him on.
O is the same sister who was one of the FIRST 2 bring in help 2 new orleans in the wake of katrina (IN BIG NUMBERS)when every1 else was watching the devastation on CNN. She aids people of color in continental Africa and is responsible for further strengthening the careers of great writers many of which are Black.
If u select 2 dog her on how she dealt with luda u have a right 2 do so but 2 question her loyalty 2 black folks,
when she represents the epitome of black womaness...
big hips, big lips, thick hair etc.
(and she didn't doctor up her nose or any other parts of her ethnicity)
I have never seen her hide around her being black, from her man to her best friend,
or her stories of growing up in the south...
OPRAH is doing well 4 herself and she is lifting others as she climbs,
no we can't all agree on everything but
you have 2 b HONEST and give
the sister her props.
Posted by: Dana in Jersey at April 21, 2006 12:41 PM
Yall on here crying 4 luda when u should be crying 4 chingy...lol
Old boy is stuck doing silent performances on scary movie4
and luda is chillin with 3 6 Mafia at the oscars...lol
Have a blessed weekend you all...PEACE
Posted by: Dana in Jersey at April 21, 2006 12:46 PM
Everytime black people see another black person giving to or helping out white people, they get offended and call her an Uncle Tom.
Black people, Stop acting like Oprah is the problem and do like her.
Posted by: Georgia Bottom Boy at April 21, 2006 12:52 PM
On the show Oprah was talkinh about how black people as a whole should stop ussing the word nigga all together because its to closely associated with nigger...and Luda wasnt having it, and I think its kinda stupid..I think the word should be given up..i mean my white and hispanic friends are using nigga now, and I dont have a problem with it, but I dont use it, once a word, phrase, or term becomes mainstream it loses value and its just a wack word to begin with..so I agree with O on this one...
BTW Oprah has done more for the black community that most of you will do for your own life...I dont hate on O, hate will get you nowhere in life..
Posted by: Aston at April 21, 2006 12:52 PM
If somebody needs some help, I would help them out no matter what race they are.
Posted by: Georgia Bottom Boy at April 21, 2006 12:53 PM
Half ya'll cats just need to read what ya'll write. Alot of ya really play yourselves with the garbage you write. Get some Jesus in ya life. That's real!
God Bless!
PZ
Posted by: PZ at April 21, 2006 01:05 PM
Thats the problem..black people are too ignorant..they rather side with a rapper (who will no doubt disappear in couple of years) on what was said on the Oprah show--knowing you havent watched one episode. Oprah been on fro 20 years and is the only black female self made Billionaire with a B.
Blacks will continue to be the poorest in America because your whole mentality and ignorant ways need to change..
Have you ever wondered why so many successful black people distance themselves from other blacks? Its shameful to be associated with an ignorant, uneducated group of ppl who wont do better for themselves.
All the society know about blacks from the news, rap videos, and hip hop is that they rob, shoot,kill, say bitch this ho that, sell drugs, smoke drugs and nobody in the community cares.
The only thing ppl see of the black community is disgrace... I would hate to be black and being represented the way you are...I just hope you ppl change your ways
Posted by: Lauren at April 21, 2006 01:06 PM
Ludacris knows what kind of music he makes, so he shouldn't get offended when people come at him. He calls women bitches and says the N word all over his albums. To Oprah that's a double assault being a woman and being an African-American.
Comedians are there to make us laugh, so she must not take them as serious as she does a rapper.
Posted by: Georgia Bottom Boy at April 21, 2006 10:50 AM
^^^^
WTF?????????????
Get outta here. Its music, nobody complains when that shit happens in movies. You lost some points.
Posted by: Big Man at April 21, 2006 01:35 PM
PZ...
Jesus just called me. He said He doesn't like Oprah either. He said it's not because she didn't Him a free pontiac car either.
Posted by: caff at April 21, 2006 01:46 PM
The only thing ppl see of the black community is disgrace... I would hate to be black and being represented the way you are...I just hope you ppl change your ways
Posted by: Lauren at April 21, 2006 01:06 PM
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Another one...wow...
I love being black-I just wanted to say that. Furthermore you are no better than the black folks who complain about how we are from a distance but have no ideas on how to change that stigma...fuckin idiot.
How can you sit there and say we are a disgrace when we had proud civilizations that you raped and plundered for your own monetary gain?
You should thank us for a lot of the shit you own including the fact your ancestors probably lived off slaves in some way...I hate to take shit back that far but we didn't ask to come here...there are so many things in place now from those above our heads there is no instant change, shits fucked up all we can do is figure that shit out and break the cycle.
I believe Oprah has done more for the black community than your favorite rappers have done. Whomever made that comment about all she did was hook up houses that KG paid for, what has your favorite rapper done-donate some mixtape money to Red Cross-I give her props.
However she is also one of these old school black folks that believe that hip hop artists are killing our community, she could have kept it separate-'Cris didn't go on there with big chains and start spitting rhymes with a bunch of niggas in the background. She unfairly attacked him and basically did some White media shit. Oprah was never hood-she was country...there's a difference, so she's old school. She has all these self help episodes but until she can honestly say she has a way to help fix the problem with hip hop-don't attack a man that does more postitive than negative-she was all on Kanye's dick too because that nigga's not hood either. She's threatened by Luda...
"You should never be scared of your own people"
Furious Styles-Boyz n the Hood
Posted by: Naj at April 21, 2006 01:46 PM
"Blacks will continue to be the poorest in America because your whole mentality and ignorant ways need to change.."
Posted by: Lauren at April 21, 2006 01:06 PM
That is yet another misconception, girlfriend, black people are NOT the poorest in America if you check the statistics. Though I commend your ...effort.... to pull a coat tail or two to some of the ignorance that you've seen in the media, youre not helping the situation by perpetuating that line of thinking.
If nothing else, you have to remember that the people on this blog are but a small subsect of society and not everyone commenting is black, so though you had a viable point in there, just be careful of over-generalizing. Nobody made Ludacris or anybody else you have seen on the news the official spokesperson for all black people. Just keep it in perspective, thats all.
Posted by: Dig at April 21, 2006 01:55 PM
Ok, on the re-read, there was no viable point in there, LOL. You tried though, LOL.... might wanna steer clear of the "you people" thing though. That'll get ya lumped up in most hoods, LOL.
Posted by: Dig at April 21, 2006 02:03 PM
first off, it's very interesting to hear so many different opinions on this issue. you have to admit though, as much as oprah has done for african-americans, her show is still geared toward middle-aged suburban white women, whom like to use it as a way to show how "cultured" they are. when in all actuality, oprah does not represent the average african-american woman.
she is very old school in her thinking and is obviously an african-american whom feels threatened and insulted by the majority of hip hop artists, i.e. luda. an additional reason that she edited luda's comments was because he would have been a turn off to her superiors and the majority of her fanbase(can't lose money).
i think that oprah has become very greedy over the years and is only out for a buck. a perfect example of this is the whole james frey debocle. either way, oprah is not a very forward thinking black woman, in the sense that she doesn't respect real hip hop artists like ludacris who have done plenty for their communities.
kanye west is a non threatening nigga who white people love and are very comfortable with, mostly because of that whole jesus walks thing. personally i think he is trash, but old black folks love him and so do white people, so he fits in perfectly on her show.
Posted by: frankster04 at April 21, 2006 02:24 PM
Half ya'll cats just need to read what ya'll write. Alot of ya really play yourselves with the garbage you write. Get some Jesus in ya life. That's real!
God Bless!
PZ
Posted by: PZ at April 21, 2006 01:05 PM
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Exactly. You just played yourself. Take the quarter out ya ass. Anybody that tell somebody else they need Jesus, are the ones who needs Jesus. Don't we all jack-ass?
Lauryn:
That was a good attempt to ruffle feathers but the "You people comment" revealed that you are black speaking from what you perceive as a white persons point of view. Whites don't say You people no more. They know that's equivalant to saying Nigger.
Aston:
Man I'ma kick yo ass you let your white friends use the word Nigger or Nigga around you. Stop it man, don't let them say that shit. They invented it and we stole it, that's our shit now.
Posted by: Thrillz at April 21, 2006 02:45 PM
Kenneth Ackerman: Ya Mamma!
Posted by: Semaj at April 21, 2006 02:49 PM
i am so glad luda finally said something i thought it was just me, i watched the eposide and you could see how o was distance and kind of disrespectfull to Luda. She seems to respect for certain hip hop individuals that are also respected as business men. i guess she doesn;t know that luda is also a very smart business man. I havent watched o show since that eposide. you should always respect everyone unless they have disrespected you. Much Love to Luda, Just keepp it moving playa...........
blkqeen
Posted by: tracy at April 21, 2006 02:53 PM
Kennath Ackerman??? That's another brother or sister trying to ruffle some feathers.
The only thing is, the people on the net don't need to hear this. Although we talk a lot of shit, diss each other, cuss each other out, the overall consensus of people here are intelligent brothrs and sisters.
That nigga standin out there on the corner with the brew and blunt behind his ear selling rocks, are the MF's we need to be conveying these messages to.
Posted by: Thrillz at April 21, 2006 02:55 PM
The Problem. The absolute worse thing that happened to hip-hop culture and Black people as a whole, is NWA. Niggas With Attitudes killed us.
Posted by: Harsh Reality at April 21, 2006 02:59 PM
Once again, please do your research. Welfare this, welfare that... the largest population of people nationwide on welfare is..... drum roll please......WHITE PEOPLE!
Its all smoke and mirrors, cuz. dont believe the hype.
Posted by: Dig at April 21, 2006 03:06 PM
For real... all that fuck Oprah bullshit is wack. Fuck you if you said fuck Oprah; Oprah helped put my black ass through school with her scholarship when I was about to drop out, and I never met her in my life. That's real talk. I love Luda too, he's takin his trips to Africa and whatnot, but as far as doing things that people feel, ain't nobody touchin Oprah.
What we forget as black folks is that we are the summation of our ancestors; everyone that has gone before us. Sometimes I think hip hop stars of today forget that, but I understand why. Hip hop grew from being left and isolated from the blacks that made it; so naturally when we got on, we wanted to stick our middle fingers up to the middle class. But we don't even do that no more (NWA, Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash, BDP, ATCQ, etc), we're killing our own culture, what made hip hop great in the first place.
Luda comes with heat all the time, and his shit is funny as hell. But like a post said before, make up your mind, are you keeping it real, or is it just entertainment? With Luda, you can truly just enjoy it as entertainment, because he hasn't said nothing to inspire me (I did like Diamond in the Back though)... but listen to the shit he just came out w. with Three Six Mafia ("Gave me the pussy for a burger and some fries!")- that shit is crazy! Funny, but I do see how that shit offends some women - I ain't playin that shit around my momma!
Oprah on the other hand is raising the issues of the decline of American education, building schools in Africa, and showing American poverty... you know, the shit rap music USED to do.
So while I respect Luda and the argument he makes, and I do concede that Oprah does have alot more white than I'm comfortable with, Oprah got me through school, so keep her name outta your mouth.
Posted by: seacowboy at April 21, 2006 03:11 PM
Luda's right though. We hear Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle use the same language as him, yet he gets criticized. Oprah shouldn't be no damn hypocrite. You humiliate Luda, but someone told me that she had Superhead on her show. What the hell is up with that? You hate the guy who says "bitch", but when a real one comes on you show her respect? The black man gets no love.
As for Kenneth Ackerman, for someone who hates the black race so much, you sure love hanging around us. I may not post everday, but I sure do read. Your ass has been popping up a lot.
Instead of taking the normal route and cussing you out, I would want to treat you as a patient. I want to know what trauma black people have caused you in your life
Questions
1. Did you try out for basketball and did not make the cut, but found that that those who did were black?
2. Were you rejected by a black woman?
3. Does soul food give you heart burn?
4. Are you angry because white peope now listen to rap than rock n roll
5. Are you still jealous because Ruben Studdard beat Clay Aiken?
6. Are you mad that Barry Bonds might beat Babe Ruth in home runs, just like he did Mark McGwire
7. Are you afraid that Barack Obama may be the first black president sometie in the next 12 years.
8. Did it hurt you to see Kanye West kiss Pamela Anderson?
Posted by: The TN Man at April 21, 2006 03:23 PM
Stop using the past as an excuse Negro.
Black people have to be the most laziest and backwards race in mankind’s history. How is it that you have black people who were born here and on welfare and you have immigrants coming in from other countries (mainly Chinese and Indians) becoming doctors and lawyers when they can barely speak any English? All you black people do is complaining, complain and complain. Well guess what NOBODY HEARS YOU. Stop com0plaining and get off your lazy asses and go to school or find a job. Life is how you make it. Don't you dare blame my ancestors for your problems? Look at the Jews they have been oppressed for centuries yet they are the richest ethnic population in the world, why? Because they don't complain they get out there and they use what God gave them to there advantage. Next time I see a black person in the street blaming a white person for his problem I’m calling Bill' O'Reilly.
And on that note black people suck... except Oprah
Posted by: Kenneth Ackerman at April 21, 2006 02:58 PM
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Oh...here's Kenny Ackkkerman again...
Listen son, because you are a kid to me. You mix a couple of big multisyllabic words together and say you are bring "substance" to these blogs. I think you are some poor guy who needs people to pay him mind by stirring the post so to speak. Let me educate you on a couple of things. First, we can show that documented proof the psyche of black america has been permanently scarred through various writings by black AND white authors starting with "The Miseducation of the Negro"-I went to school to learn about stuff--I know that escapes your mind-learning. There is no secret we did not bring narcotics, liquor stores or even guns into our neighborhoods. This has been a systematic way to enslave a group of people although according to laws are no longer slaves. We could talk about this all day, but my point is we didn't start the fire. Granted, some of my people do fan the flames however, but in no way will I FUCKIN FORGET WHAT HAPPENED TO MY ANCESTORS AT the hands of YOURS (if you are actually WHITE-that is a question we need to ask).
With that being said, I encourage the ones that do have sound mind to come up with solutions to break the cycle started by the pale face and his past devilish deeds.
This is not a kill whitey entry by any means this is a kill ignorant muthafuckas who say shit they know nothing about entry.
Oh, Kenneth-it took me a minute to reply because I was working, you know putting my Bachelor's Degree from a major univeristy to good use-cocksucker, maybe you should go to school instead of trying to school someone. You are worse than those people on black/white trying to be something you're not.
You're not white...you might not even be black...whatever you are, this has become a grown man/woman's conversation, I suggest you step the fuck out the room.
Tell Bill O'Reilly to holla, I got words all day for that piece of shit.
Posted by: Naj at April 21, 2006 03:30 PM
Posted by: oprah at April 21, 2006 03:36 PM
People stop complaining and lying to yourselves
I have even met some black people who agree trhat white people are better than them
It's just Human Nature
You prove it by your actions
Posted by: Lelani Ogudala at April 21, 2006 03:11 PM
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No, those are people that have no pride in their ancestors and refuse to have pride in themselves. No dude on the corner hustlin is going to keep me from wanting to be proud of the fact my ancestors were kings and queens and had some of the most vast empires in history. And this is no different from the plus sized girl that only sees skinny girls in ads, all we saw growing up was straight haired happy WHITE people-the media does more to depict negative than we'll EVER DO.
That was some bullshit you posted.
Posted by: Naj at April 21, 2006 03:39 PM
Oprah just like that dude Bob Johnson from BET. They got all that money and forgot that the was raised on "bread and bolonga" and "collard greens and cornbread"
That must be the bad part to being a billionaire. She need a cup of henn and coke and a blunt of dro!!
chevy g, wut it do pimpin?
Posted by: 100% real nigga at April 21, 2006 03:55 PM
SMH....
you hear me knockin? LOL
Posted by: Dig at April 21, 2006 03:58 PM
What I'm a do now...huh...what I'm a do now---it's all fucked up now!
Posted by: Naj at April 21, 2006 04:01 PM
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Posted by: Dig at April 21, 2006 04:03 PM
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Posted by: Dig at April 21, 2006 04:04 PM
HARPO . . . HARPO . . DONT YOU BEAT ME!!!
Posted by: M.FREEMZ.ILLA at April 21, 2006 04:08 PM
i can't help myself but to respond. my boss can kiss my ass! oh shit thats me, today so BEN WACKERMAN(you stupid ma fucca) you can kiss my ass bitch. black people dont like 2work.lmao
just like old white ppl, modern day rich black ppl are jealious of rappers, black sport atheles, small mom & pop stores, and even hood entrenpeurs doing something positive MAYBE EVEN MORE SO THAN STUPID ASS BEN WACKERMAN. it kinda makes you feel like oprah implied that they wish HIPHOP was not making money or it shouldn't be accepted by white america. knowing her best roles as a actress been SLAVES, she should have imgrace the brother without getting sleezy. oprah with the love she gets from us, she would never come to my or your hood without security AND THE POLICE. OPRAH may drop a check here and there THEN fly around the world with her rich white & black(ass-kissing) friends fronting like she got street cred but only doing it for publicity and tv ratings. honestly, i dont give damn what oprah thinks especially after her and best friend(terry mcmillian)telling & screaming on her show at sisters about how to choose and handle a black man. lets try working together and come up. STOP THE HATE, THATS WHAT KEEPIN US DOWN!
Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 21, 2006 04:31 PM
I'll just say this.
I watched the show the first time around. And you can't tell what may have been cut out, from one segment to the next.
Having said that, the show is ONLY an hour long(45min minus the commercials), so some of it is going to be edited/cut.
Happens ALL the time.
Now on to the 'BIG O'.
If Oprah really had a problem, she would have been a whole lot harder on Luda and Don Cheadle than she was.
The conversation ended with them basically agreeing to disagree. Oprah acutally joked that maybe Luda could just TRY and cut down on all the 'bitches' next time. And he laughed and said 'maybe', and that was that.
Now Oprah gave that James Faye dude THA BIDNESS and shut his shit down like POW!
This is all about nothing.
Because it's not like Luda was gonna say anything to make an audience full of MIDDLE AGED WOMEN just accept Luda's argument that he's only relaying the 'realities of life'(which was his justification).
Oprah an 'Uncle Tom', that's just reckless talk. Luda wouldn't use the same reasoning with his momma, and ya'll wouldn't try it either. There are just some things our parents will NEVER understand or accept.(My gran SURE AS FUCK wouldn't be tryin to hear that shit, and I ain't tryin to call her an Uncle Tom, or an 'ol head')
Let's reserve the 'Uncle Tom' tag for the folks that have really earned it. I won't say any names.
Posted by: willyjsimmons at April 21, 2006 04:32 PM
And I AM NOT co-sigin anything these ofay ass folks have been saying.
I just don't think Oprah meant any ill will towards Luda. Cuz if she did, nigga would have caught it a lot worse.
Posted by: willyjsimmons at April 21, 2006 04:35 PM
who told oprah she can tell another grown-man what to do if its putting food on his table. plus, she the host meaning why go there. i think oprah tried to be slick infront of her white friends
Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 21, 2006 04:48 PM
if you going to be professional, be professional with respect toward rappers, too(ex. tavis smiley). getting loose all of sudden or out of character, a person may think you being funny. i saw the show, and oprah was being snake-sneaky.
Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 21, 2006 04:52 PM
That's the problem willyjsimmons, Oprah doesn't mean to offend anybody. She's not a person - she's a personality, and she hasn't strayed from the popular choice in forever. That's why you can go at Luda - because the majority of the population hates rappers, including older black people as well. If she really had an opinion of her own, she'd do a show on religious intolerance. Of course she'd never do that, because she already got her ass chewed out for saying there's more than one way to salvation. So when all else fails, there is always the easy target: Rap Music.
Like dude said earlier, Oprah is a sell out to the tenth power. She does what makes money. Back in the days, she did a segment about beautiful babies, but guess what - not a single one of the babies on the show was black. She lost a lot of popularity with the black viewers, and it wasn't until then until she tried to appeal to the black community more. She made her personal trainer rich by boosting him up. She made Dr Phil a household name. When was the last time she gave a person of color that much power to where they can branch off and help others themselves? NEVER! She'll throw you a flounder, but if you think she'll teach you how to fish, you're sadly mistaken.
What's the latest fad in the industry? Video girls. She had Jamie Foxworth on her show. She had Karrine Steffans on her show. Ok you you have a problem with rappers who disrespect women, but you have a bitch that calls herself SuperHead? Didn't Oprah just give a speech about giving the wrong people a platform?
Oprah is about one thing, and that's money. All the people you named that were on the show have a common factor: they were all people who would attract viewers that wouldn't normally watch the show.
p.s. It amazes me how much credit people give Oprah for giving away cars that she didn't even pay for! GM donated the cars. Hell any of us could hold a charity event and give shit away if we didn't have to pay for any of it.
Posted by: RapIsDead at April 21, 2006 04:53 PM
'If she really had an opinion of her own, she'd do a show on religious intolerance. Of course she'd never do that, because she already got her ass chewed out for saying there's more than one way to salvation.'
Oprah DID have a show about intolerance, ethnic and religious. Aired out an Asian dude who made some dumb comments about minorities(go figure).
Besides, the show Luda was on was also about intolerance as a whole. The whole 'Nigga/Bitch' debate was only like 5-10 minutes long. Like I said, it wasn't that serious.
'Ok you you have a problem with rappers who disrespect women, but you have a bitch that calls herself SuperHead?'
The title of the show was 'Smart Women on "Stupid Girls"', and Pink was on it. Oprah DID NOT make Superhead come out looing like wonder woman.
Posted by: willyjsimmons at April 21, 2006 05:23 PM
Luda's right though. We hear Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle use the same language as him, yet he gets criticized. Oprah shouldn't be no damn hypocrite. You humiliate Luda, but someone told me that she had Superhead on her show. What the hell is up with that? You hate the guy who says "bitch", but when a real one comes on you show her respect? The black man gets no love.
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
No Luda is wrong. No one takes Dave Chapelle seriously. Everyone loves him. I been to a show and stood in line with black, white, asian, hispanic.
Chris Rock curses but if you listen to his message, his jokes are serious social commentary. It's like Lauryn Hill said, I add Motherfucker so the ignorant niggas will listen.
Who cares what Oprah thinks? Oprah ain't gonna stop Luda from going plat or getting another movie role.
Posted by: Da_Watcher at April 21, 2006 05:24 PM
Kenneth Ackerman
Please quit giving white people a even worse name.
Sincerely,
Engraged White Man
Posted by: Enraged White Man at April 21, 2006 05:27 PM
"The title of the show was 'Smart Women on "Stupid Girls"', and Pink was on it. Oprah DID NOT make Superhead come out looing like wonder woman."
That's true, but it conflicts with her statement. On the interview she did with Dave Chappelle, she said sometimes no matter what your intentions were, it's still bad, because you're giving the wrong people a platform. Regadless of how she looked, she still sold more books because of it. The problem is, her book isn't exactly a positive one.
BTW, what was the line in that Pink said in her song? I forget what it is, but there was speculation about what she meant about it. My memory fails me.
Posted by: RapIsDead at April 21, 2006 05:31 PM
The only thing I remember is the line about 5-0.
'What ever happened to a girl president/She's dancin in the video next to 50 cent'
Bitch got punchlines, ha ha!
I better stop before shakeem gets all bent outta shape and shit.
Posted by: willyjsimmons at April 21, 2006 05:35 PM
wsup homies, i don't give a fuck what oprah has to say and neither should luda. As far as the racial comments, white people only care about making money and using minorities to get what they want. But Latinos and Blacks are growing in numbers and we're becoming more powerful. It's only a matter of time before all the hardwork of our ancestors will pay off and we'll be running this country.
-Eddie
p.s. Kenneth Ackerman, your sister left her crotchless panties at my house and tell her i need my daddy yankee cd back.
Posted by: Eduardo Perez at April 21, 2006 05:43 PM
with Stevie Wonder and Toby Keith being on the cely show, i never saw to this date a real HIPHOP show segment she welcome. Caring about the inner city, the inner youth and the progress of black america, why she planned her time slot to go head 2 head with rap city, since 1989. the only all real black movement that made every black teenager(including me) proud. other words, oprah dont like hiphop or the black ghettos of america.
- if you dont go to college or graduate, then you fucked-up your life as a black man, huh.(remember BILL COSBY words)
ITS FUNNY WITH ALL OF THESE BLACK REAL ESTATE AGENTS AND RICH MONEY-MAKERS INVESTING EVERYWHERE REBUILDING SHIT, BUT SOMEHOW & SOMEWAY THEY OVER LOOK THEIR OWN BLACK PPL.STRUGGLE RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSES.
ps. unless something happens that requires national & international TV exposure like Katrina
Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 21, 2006 06:02 PM
i hate niggers. they're all worthless, good for nothing heathens. fuck some ludacris, toby keith is for the children. just remember this is a no spin zone. tune in to the factor at 8 pm on weekdays.
Posted by: bill o'reilly at April 21, 2006 06:12 PM
i didn't see the episode but i heard about it, i feel it was fucked up .even though i'm going off hearsay i can do that because my nephew and niece were in a television movie and i got to see first hand how she acts the movie was "There are no children here" i believe but she stayed in her trailer ,no one was allowed to adress her at all the older man did and her people damn near trampled him trying to cut him off , Maya angelou asked some kids if they would like to meet her and she gave the most fucked up look like "i know she didn't!" but when she turned towards her she bust a big ass smile it got to the point where nobody gave a damn because david keith(or keith david) Ms. Angelou,and the dude played the muslim from menace was so damned cool the neihborhood people had a ball(the funniest shit was when the guy who played the muslim was trying to make my older sis remember him from his roles and she couldn't ,or remember the role but don't remember him playing it he went back to calvin from the mickey d's commercials then asked him why is always dying in the movies dude wasn't offended or shit he thought it was funny as hell.) but when the show aired at the end thet did this thing where they talked about the area and she was hugging these kids like she was all involved and loves the children she must've rented those kids and bus'ed them to the west side of Chi cuz no1 seen that shit happen. that was an ambush like rosie did tom selleck bring a guest on for 1 thing then attack them about sumthin else. i don't hate Oprah and i admire her to an extent but all that ILOVE the WORLD shit is a show believe that!!
Posted by: DEQUES(pronounced DEXX!) at April 21, 2006 06:20 PM
good one The TN Man this coward is out of his mind.crakerman what are you doing.The TN Man youu know that coward wont answer.
Posted by: bxconnect at April 21, 2006 06:23 PM
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" You's A Mama Boy / I am a son of a hustla "
ROMEO LMFAO hahahah
Posted by: INTERSCOPE JACKSON at April 21, 2006 07:25 PM
BREAKING NEWS : BOW WOW JUST GOT KILLED WITH ONE LINE.
" You's A Mama Boy / I am a son of a hustla "
ROMEO LMFAO hahahah
Posted by: INTERSCOPE JACKSON at April 21, 2006 07:26 PM
Oprah did do Luda wrong. I wanted to comment about what someone said earlier, about white soccer moms not letting their kids listen to rap music.
I was at the gas station about 3 weeks ago, I be damned if I did not hear snoop dog coming from this white women SUV, and it was like her 9 yr old son controlling the radio. Needless to say, I was shocked. That just goes to show, white people love us. Luda needs to keep doing his thing, and do not pay any attention to sell outs like Oprah.
Posted by: sexycg from GA at April 21, 2006 07:49 PM
Oprah need not to forget what show she did from a certain State that got her the limelight she has now. Plus I hate to go here, she is not a Saint Fucking out of wedlock being from the bible belt state so she is just like the rest of the people she trying to look down own.
ATL Westside ATL ZONE1
Posted by: Reggieshotta at April 21, 2006 08:31 PM
fuck oprah that bitch aiont black history, so niggas stop doing projects on her ugly ass, that bitch aint did nothin for the black community but get rich, so why aint master p considered black history if oprah is, cus shes a bitch, i really dont get it, that bitches show is so wack and i fucking hater her so much , fucking bitch she hates her own race but loves white people cus shes from the racist state of mississippi that fucking trick
Posted by: fuck oprah at April 21, 2006 08:41 PM
BLACK PEOPLE DO THIS
WHITE PEOPLE DO THAT
OPRAH GETS SKINNY
AND THEN SHE GETS FAT
BLACK PEOPLE HAVE DICKS
WHITE PEOPLE HAVE PECKS
OPRAHS AT HOME
CASHING BIG CHECKS
BLACK PEOPLE SAY OOGA
WHITE PEOPLE SAY BOOGA
OPRAHS AT HOME DRINKING WATER MIXED WITH SUGAR
BLACK PEOPLE LIKE CHICKEN
WHITE PEOPLE LIKE STEAK
IN 5 MORE YEARS HISPANICS WILL BE THE MAJORITY RACE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I THINK OPRAH TONIGHT SHOULD BE HAVING MY BABY BABY UHH!
Posted by: GRIMEY DOMINICANO EL DIABLO at April 21, 2006 08:52 PM
OPRAH is not my favorite to watch...and sometimes i do think she forgets her blackness on her show.....
but damn...when it comes to serious shit in the world shes always their...doing what she can to help the individuals and to inform us....
shit she has given so much to fight AIDS and violence in AFRICA its crazy....
WHAT THE FUCK HAS LUDA DONE....ITS NO H8... but what has he done to judge her?....nigga making music with stupid lyrics dumbing down the youth....
Posted by: Prophetic-Poet at April 21, 2006 09:38 PM
Word on the street is that Oprah loves G-Unit.
Posted by: Shakeem at April 21, 2006 09:39 PM
OMFG you kill me with this crap...black people always wanting something handed out to them, if its not welfare, its affirmative action, if its not that u asking OPRAH to give black people jobs....OH STFU if a black person is not qualified enough...THEYRE NOT QUALIFIED!
I cant stand this bullshit.
Black people stop thinking that youre entitled to everything just because...STOP..do some shit for yourself for once, Start your own production company and maybe you can have a net worth of 1.5 billion like Oprah. Stop thinking that you can have everything handed to you...
Yeah white people are the majority of americans on welfare, you ever wonder why? Its not because more white ppl are poor, its because there are 165 million white ppl in America..compared to the 36 million black people in america---now you do the math...I did a report of welfare in america in my Sociology class and white are the majority when receiving any federal aid, but its not what you think.
Quite frankly I think Luda is whining like the female dogs he raps about.
My parents and grandparents all have degrees my mom a Masters and my dad a BBA..they didnt get help they did it themselves..my grandparents went to college during the 50's --in the height of racial tension, and faced death situations and struggled for blacks to have equality--for lazy ass black people to fuck it up---FUCK THAT
OK BLACK PEOPLE HERE IS A REVIEW
1.STOP EXPECTING HANDOUTS--- GET OUT AN DO IT FOR YOURSELF..dont go whining to oprah cuz ur black and feel its her duty to give you a job, dont go complaining to real estate brokers, and investment bankers because theyre black and made it--so you think u deserve their help..I wish someone would come up to me asking for a handout!...This is america--get off welfare and do the shit yourself.
2.Yeah white ppl are mainly on welfare, but just because less blacks are, its nothing to be proud of..
Posted by: Aston at April 22, 2006 12:11 AM
What the hell is going on in this blog?? Why are posts getting deleted?
Posted by: Ez at April 22, 2006 02:23 AM
Does anyone besides me notice that evertything negative sticks to black people, whereas, everything positive sticks to white people? Whenever Luda or 50 or some black director expresses themselves in a manner that some consider uncouth, people consider it a step back for the whole race, whereas Eminem can rape and kill his mother, and Marilyn Manson can rub his dick in peoples faces, and amazingly white people still have a sterling reputation. Babe Ruth was a womanizing drunk, why didn't he set the white race back? Elvis was a drug addicted pedophile whose fat ass died on the toilet. Why didn't he set white people back? Led Zepplin, Aerosmith, The Rolling Stones, Guns N Roses, and everyone else in rock n roll would be doing life sentences if they were rappers. Oprah, and the rest of the sellout rich nigga brigade, are dumb enough to think that white people are ever going to respect us. This is about race. They considered us 3/5 a human being by law. Did they respect us then? Hell no. That's the game, don't you see it? This is how they divide us. We're busy bickering about rappers who have a first amendment right to talk about whatever the hell they want, meanwhile Paris Hilton, The Olsen Twins, and Lindsey Lohan are off being sluts in public, and America's rewarding them. Oprah's going to see just like O.J., Kobe, and every other nigga who finds out that a nigga in a suit is still a nigga in the U S of A.
P.S. Aston, and Kenneth Ackerman
White women also benefit from affirmative action more that we do.
Maybe if you crackers and wannabe crackers didn't go out of your way to destroy whole races of people, you wouldn't have to finally give something back. Just be happy that all us "negroes" haven't joined with the "wetbacks" and "Indians" and exacted revenge on you opressive bastards ourselves
P.S.
Posted by: theblackdeath at April 22, 2006 02:25 AM
theblackdeath I hear you. I co-sign most of what you're saying.
I mean first off, yeah, we DO have a lot of work to do in our black community...that's obvious. The truth hurts, and yes, expecting hand-outs and basically getting special treatment just because of your race needs to stop (but EVERYONE should be treated at the same fair level, so nobody feels that they AREN'T being treated fairly). And for things to change for the better, there has to be a mutual sense of understanding, acceptance, and respect between two parties (i.e. Blacks & Whites). Like if the poor black kids want the white police to stop fuckin' with them, they'll need to stop with the guns & drugs...then simultaneously, the police need to stop with all the generalizations/stereotypes and disrespect.
Another thing...about all the generalizations, I know it's glamorized by the culture of hip hop, but not every black person in America is poor and/or a gangster, thug, or a hoe. You can't call ANYONE ignorant of YOU'RE someone who thinks this way. Funny how people love sticking these negative stigmas on minorities. If we have achievements, they're muffled, if we have flaws, they're blown out of proportion. Percentage-wise there are more blacks than whites in poverty and on welfare, but the actual population numbers are far greater for whites, don't foerget that...before we're labeled as "welfare thieves". Plus I can go on all day about stereotypes associated with trailer park-dwelling white trash...funny how you white racists act like they don't exist.
P.S. Don't ever sit there & run your mouth about people's fuckin' problems, without at least taking a moment to see exactly WHY they have those problems. If a girl's a prostitute, instead of sittin' there and calling her a slut, why not take a minute to think that maybe her financial situation and parental guidance are so bad she just had no real choice? Or if a kid resorts to stealing, maybe he's so impoverished he has to do it to survive. Things don't have to stay like that...and like I said before, two parties need to reach out to each other. Pointing out problems is step one, that's realization...you racists are good at that, especially when it's others' faults. But step two isn't throwing salt on the wound, it's taking action, finding the root of the problem and figuring it out from there. Just something to think about.
Posted by: Ez at April 22, 2006 03:01 AM
Business Week claims that Oprah has given more money to charity than any black person in U.S. history. She's also the world's only black billionaire since Robert Johnson's fortune was split in divorce.
Oprah's a genius and the most influential woman on Earth. Luda is a talentless uncle Tom who calls other blacks the N word and who enjoys humiliating woman.
Oprah through the millions she's given to Katrina and South African blacks, and though the literacy of her book club is empowering black people everywhere. Luda is dragging black folks down through his demeaning lyrics because he's too dumb to make money any other way.
Posted by: Rye at April 22, 2006 11:25 AM
Last time I checked Luda is in his mid 20s and is a millionaire, when Oprah was his age, she wasn't making money like Cris, so obviously he's doing something right-do the math.
For everyone that attacks Luda, you obviously have not listened to an actual Ludacris album, the dude is talented and does not rap about the typical shit-killing and selling crack like so many others do.
Believe it or not, Chris Rock had comedy routines where he talked about "old and new pussy" fat girls and other shit, he is not always political...
To the cats that believe Oprah's an Uncle Tom, I disagree but I will say she is out of touch with the things going on in the innercities as far as black folks go.
She like I said earlier is an old school black person who believes that this new generation is bringing them down.
We came from somewhere though.
We just didn't sprout up from nowhere, this evolved from the innercities where the jobs left, the drugs came in and many of the ones who could-some of our community leaders left.
As far as what some of these supposed "crackers" (as white as you claim, we don't believe you, you need more people) on here are talking about with "we're always complaining" and "we're lazy" my ancestors help build this country my parents and their parents parents put up with bullshit from the pale face and his sneaky ways for so long, it's easy to judge from the outside looking in.
How many of you know we still don't have the right to vote...that shit expired, it was never made into law, although we can vote, an asshole can by law pull you out the line if you are black. Racism still exists in this country. I still can't get a cab in certain neighborhoods and still get stopped by cops when it's time to look for a suspect.
What makes me mad about Oprah is that she had Kanye on the show-he uses niggas and bitches all through his music but Luda is on there talking about acting and racism being from Georgia and she uses his time as a platform to hate on hip hop. That was fucked up on her part. Old heads spend too much time wagging their fingers and not trying to understand why shit it the way it is and also try to reach a solution to empower ourselves.
Posted by: Naj at April 22, 2006 12:40 PM
Luda is an uncle Tom because Luda is embarassing black folks by calling them the N word which was a name given by the slave master. What kind of sellout idiot would disgrace his own people like that?
Oprah has given more money to black causes than any black in American history (NINE FIGURES according to Business Week) and that's money out of her own pocket in addition to all the money she raises through her Angel Network and corporate sponsorships.
Oprah is a brilliant humanitarian who has done so much good work in South Africa that Nelson Mandel calls her the most wonderful woman in the world.
Luda is a sell-out uncle Tom who can only get ahead by humiliating blacks with his racist music.
Posted by: Jav at April 22, 2006 01:01 PM
Ludacris is around 30, and you cant compare a BILLIONAIRE to a rapper with a few measly million. Oprah probably wasnt making millions in her 20's but she was a news anchorat a major news station at the age of 19, before even graduating college, and worked her way there..Lud amight have a few million now, but Oprah is guaranteed a $250 million dollar paycheck every year for the next 7 years not in addition to the $50 million contract she just signed with XM, and the profits from her production company. Luda is not and never will be on Oprah's level.
Oprah donated 10 million of her own money to the rebuilding of N.O after Katrina
Oprah Has built 3 live in schools in Africa for extremely disadvantaged children..
not to mention bought 2 million gifts for them for Christmas of which they were more excited to get books and backpacks than toys and games....Stop sleeping on what she does FOR BLACK PEOPLE IN AMERICA AND IN AFRICA
Posted by: Aston at April 22, 2006 01:09 PM
Oprah has given away more money to help disadvanatged black folks in the last year alone than Luda will ever make his entire career.
When Oprah was Luda'a age (she looks younger) she wasn't demeaning her people by calling them the N word, instead she was breaking every taboo by revoluntionizing the daytime talk show world with taboo breaking edgy topics that spoke to tens of millions of Americans.
Luda is just pissed off because he wasn't man enough to stand up to Oprah face to face and now has to cry about her from a safe distance. I never even heard of this idiot until he appeared on Oprah.
Posted by: Lyle at April 22, 2006 01:21 PM
i hope you still on aston...talking about handouts...what you call working for free over 400 yrs. what you call selling your crack in your neighborhoods, while you shop at neman-marcus. white america has always had a handout even leaving europe to discover america you CROOK! its sad black people like oprah get accepted in your community(only because she got money) but somebody the black community co-sign, they get the disrespect treatment. i hope you still on, ma fucca
Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 22, 2006 01:41 PM
Liten people: We can talk about how much of a sellout Oprah is. But the truth is that the real sellout in this is Luda. Ludacris is A trademark in the hip hop culture, he has a higher rank than even OPRAH in the hip hop culture. Now, he's also talented, smart and well spoken. But he ain't REALLY doing anything for young ppl of the hip hop culture. GOD FORBID LUDA MAKE A PSA ABOUT AIDS AWARENESS OR GUNS ON THE STREETS OR TEEN PREGNANCIES, OR BLACK COLLEGES. He's the one we recognize as "HIP HOP", with all his wealth and power he's not really doing anything worthwhile for us urban city kids. AND LETS NOT TALK ABOUT ALL THESE RAPPERS WO MAKE IT BIG {LUDA}, AND COMPETLEY MOVE OUT THE HOOD.. I can see why obviously, but damn at least reach out to the people who buy your records and make you enough money to payoff for the damn house. But I'm thinking that maybe we shoulda kept that money in our pockets so that we b fanancially stable and move up in life. THEN luda wouldn't even have been on Oprah's show, cuz he wouldn't be shit!
Posted by: spelman_grad644 at April 22, 2006 01:49 PM
and another thing, my grandparents were very smart, but confuse assholes like you wasnt letting black people in schools, back then. i can my grandparents right now, and they feel the same way as i do, because first hand they help build this country, he(army retiree,1940s built railroads) she(all her life cook and clean, then even raised white kids when your momma wanted to shop or kicked with her friends), blacks are still doing this right now, TEMPORARY EMPLOYMENT, QUOTAS FOR MINORITY ENROLLMENT IN COLLEGE. shut up, spoil-rich whiteboy before i throw a 40oz. in your yard, what good it will do, you prolly get a mexican to pick it up, huh. you got the nerve to talk about hand-outs and wanting something for free..fuck you
Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 22, 2006 01:53 PM
mz.spelman, with all do respect, dont you need to brush your hair or polish some toes or something. I KNOW OPRAH YOUR GIRL IN ALL, but luda does alot for the inner city, but you to busy kissing-ass with your uppity friends in buckhead to see.
Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 22, 2006 01:58 PM
by the way, my little niece have tried 3 times to get accepted into spelman, but was rejected not because of her grades but by her parents not being rich & pretty. i bet your parents prolly have money to slide you thru the cracks, huh
Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 22, 2006 02:02 PM
Bascailly, As a black youth who loves hip hop to death. Oprah has a point to questioned luda and cut parts of his interview. The way hip hop is heading, things will occur to our youth which do not understand what the rappers truly mean. I not rich, but blacks have to start making money from education rather than music or athlectics. stop blaming the white people and use your brain like oprah.
P.S ludacris is crazy shit. ATL Stand Up
Posted by: keep it real at April 22, 2006 02:10 PM
I not rich, but blacks have to start making money from education rather than music or athlectics. stop blaming the white people and use your brain like oprah.
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thats the thang, we got to use every faucet in our community to make ends meet. having a god-given gift in athletics is fine with me, even hustling is fine the italians do it(i see nobody trying to go at, disrespect or shut them down) nigga, were you get your education from with all those misspell words, thats more reason i like luda..he's not parading around with that i got a degree so i'm better than you talk, bullshit! HIPHOP is a force in corporate america, and jealious rich,people want to send it back to the ghetto misuse.
Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 22, 2006 02:22 PM
BTW blowitoutchass......Aston is not white, im black/dominican so save that spoiled rich whiteboy crap...
Yeah black people were enslaved for 400 years, and were persecuted as nearly as 50 years ago, but so were Jews, so were Native Americans---Why is it that people from other less fortunate countries would risk their lives to get into the U.S so that they can make a better life for themselves and their families, start a business, and climb their way up to socio-economic scale but half the people that have lived her all their lives dont do shit!
Its no secret that America is slipping, we are no longer number 1 in education, and as a world power we are declining, China and Russia are just waiting to take over...while americans collect welfare
Posted by: Aston at April 22, 2006 02:32 PM
That’s the problem with you “blowitoutchaass”, you still hatin, learn more about black history before talking all this garbage. Like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King. Do you know about Oprah past, she’s been through the hard times just like you and me. So stop trying to diss her, because every nigga would give her more respect than your bitch ass.
Posted by: keep it real at April 22, 2006 03:03 PM
So what's it going to be negrows. Do we want to be known as "thugs, ganstas, and ballers" and then get upset when white folk view us as thugs, ganstas and ballers. Luda is an okay dude, but he was born is 1977 what does he know about the word nigger. Like it or not Oprah has been through the struggle. Does she have to go back to the ghetto to be considered "real". How many of your hip hop idols still live in the hood? The question we should be asking is how many of our hip hop idols are buying school books for our children in the inner city like Steve Harvey did for a school in L.A. Some of yall be supporting them rappers like they really doing something for the black community. I guess that's why the term is "fan" cause yall fanatical.
Posted by: Nell at April 22, 2006 06:08 PM
da cracka wit attitudes back, for all yall bitches.
i saw yall talkin slick bout me while, i was locked up for a week, and i got shot 7 more times. now i have been shot a total of 9 times in ma life. i done did moe in ma life den any of yall bitch asses. o and fuck ghetto pharmacist u bitch u didnt end no ones career
Young Dollaz aka Young Deezy aka Deezy-E aka Da Ghetto Bastard is back!
is yall bitches ready?
Posted by: Young Dollaz at April 22, 2006 06:23 PM
Fuck Luda.
Sellout Ass Nigga.
You a coon son. You know that shit you keep doing ain't right. No matter what you do for charity. Among real black men you get no true respect.
You have no defense.
When the time is right we gone crush you sambo's. Chicken and Beer?
You a bitch. And the rest of the sellouts too. R. Kelly, Snoop, Nelly.
Traders get no respect.
Either you a part of the solution or you a part of the problem, period.
Ya'll cowards are a part of the problem. Fuck who behind 'em, they men. Men don't keep gettin' exploited at the cost of they own people for personal wealth. Cowards do.
I dare any of you to tell me tip drill or pusyy poppin' is good for us. Fuck Luda's feelings.
A man calling himself Ludacris will never ba taken seriuos.
Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 22, 2006 07:11 PM
Asston shut up.
Jews don't come close. They never lost their humanity. The Natives were endoctrinated with sel hate for 400 plus years.
50 years ago? Were persecuted.
King assasinated 1969 = 37
Most schools were still segregated when Luda was born in 1977=29 years ago. Shit ain't stopped, just shifted.
Psychological chains now and them shits may not come off for another 400 yaers. Just like they planned it.
As far as jews, Naw dog, jews holocaust ended our hasn't. The UN gave them a country. K
Know what you talking about or be quiet.
Got nothing to do with economics.
A rich nigga won't change shit. That's why they keep giving them money.
Like given slaves guns in the Civil war knowing they weren't gonna revolt. Why? Because they were still mental slaves.
Aston Don't be Cracker. Wise up.
Stay outta Black folks bizness.
Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 22, 2006 07:54 PM
Wow, it's still some "Luda's a sellout" talk here. What's the real issue-the fact that so many older black folks don't want to narrow the generation gap or the younger generation won't respect the older. It's a little bit of both. Neither are sellouts, considering we know for a fact that both have given a considerable amount of time and money to help causes.
Can y'all stop talking about how much Oprah has donated--that shit isn't the issue. So someone like her and Bill Cosby can be great philantropists, but because they give so much can shit on the hip hop generation? No, how about Oprah do something on the psyche on so many innercity kids and why they feel the way they do-shit why do so many old heads shit on the younger kids but don't have any viable solutions.
The argument at this point is bullshit. Luda's pissed because he probably looked up to her and got shitted on by her.
BLAST4ME you talk so much about those "sambos", but I gotta ask how much involvement do you have to help turn the tide in the innercities? Does BLAST4ME mean you plan on the revolution coming and doing something about that...I can pretty much tell you that some of those rappers did more for the hood then you might know, outside of the PR shit that gets seen in the light.
Shit they both are considered sellouts if they don't live in the hood, according to some of y'all...it's all relative, people. I just hope some of y'all realize that it's a little deeper than Area Codes and Pimpin All over the World...
Posted by: Naj at April 22, 2006 08:09 PM
New Whirl Odor by Public Enemy is some cool shit. Standard issue Chuck D.
Luda if you listening I think you brilliant. And I love you bruh. But you got Blackman work to do and I know you know it. Step up bruh and we will get yo back. No more coon shit. Please.
I know you with us but it's time your music reflect it.
BLAST4ME
Naj. I'm down all the way. And Been doing the real work. ThatS why I'm here.
Puttin' in cyber-work too. Why? Because my people on here gettin'misinformed and led astray. I'm balance son.
My beef with the "sambos" is clear. You can't justify "Pimpin all over the World" or defend it. Fuck that surface shit. What goods is it to give money to the hood if you helping destroy the minds and morals of the hood. That's some ol' be a gangster killer for scratch pay the pope for forgiveness bullshit.
IN A CHRIS ROCK VOICE..
"He might've pimped some girls in the hood but at least he bought they kids some school supplies" FUCK THAT.
Got shit to do with younger/older.
Niggas are not on they job and you seem smart enough to know it.
Stop defending these niggas cause you like to see hoes in videos. I like Luda as a MC, and I can understand why the hoodnigga still in us can relate to his bullshit. But the Blackman WE know WE supposed to be must call a spade a spade. Even if it hits US.
Freedom or Death no gray area or Area Codes...fuck outta here
Posted by: BLAST4ME at April 22, 2006 09:01 PM
you dont know oprah and dont the millions of poor black people WHO LOOKS UP TO CELY or oprah,without and broadcast schools for your youth,either. how much will that hurt her pockets, atleast TUPAC got a performing arts center in stone mountain. hell, even in her own city of chicago she had security when she went to the southside of chicago for bbq. & pizza. oprah dont care about you or me, unless she going to get paid. and for the record since when have oprah lead a group of AFRICAN AMERICANS against the government for EQUALITY or for anything clown ass-kisser? YOU STUPID ASS HELL AND SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF BY MENTIONING THE NAME OF OPRAH(CELY), IN THE SAME BREATHE OF MALCOLM X & MARTIN LUTHER KING.
Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 22, 2006 09:35 PM
I HAVE TO SAY THAT I TOTALLY AGREE WITH LUDA. FUCK THAT "HE'S A RAPPER" BULLSHIT, HE HAS A PLATFORM JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. AND IF YOU DIDNT WANT HIM TO SPEAK ON WHAT HE FELT WHY HAVE HIM ON THE SHOW???? THATS A DOUBLE STANDARD WITHIN ITS SELF.
DONT INVITE ME ON THE SHOW AND THEN NOT BROADCAST MY COMMENTS. THIS AINT ABOUT MONEY, IT'S ABOUT BEING A REAL PERSON, IT'S ABOUT INTEGRITY, YOU KNOW SOME THINGS ARE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN MONEY AND I THINK WHEN PEOPLE GET MONEY, THEY WASH EVERYTHING THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IMPORTANT DOWN THE DRAIN. AS FAR AS HIS MUSIC, I DONT THINK HE DEMORALIZES ANYBODY MORE THAN THE NEXT MAN WHO IS RAPPING AND MAKING MUSIC. MUSIC IS FREE EXPRESSION OF HOW ONE FEELS OR WHAT ONE HAS BEEN THROUGH. I DONT SEE ANYBODY CRITICIZING MARILYN MONROE FOR THE SHIT HE MAKES OR METALICA, BUT WHEN IT IS A SUCCESSFUL BLACK PERSON FROM THE HOOD, WE ARE ALWAYS THE FIRST TO TEAR OUR OWN PEOPLE DOWN AND THE LAST TO CONGRATULATE MU'FUCKAS. REAL TALK.
Posted by: GREATNESS at April 22, 2006 09:37 PM
my bad, oprah not using money for the poor youth, without profiting. thats my point.
Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 22, 2006 09:38 PM
the more i think about it, luda and the dtp crew always doing shit for the kids and charity organizations. you just want to hate on HIPHOP artists, like everybody else.
Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 22, 2006 09:45 PM
Actually that nigga Luda does stay in the hood, he stay over on Cascade along wit T.I, Too Short etc, but Luda damn sure ain't a sell out just a couple years ago the nigga was a DJ.
Posted by: Jwillz at April 22, 2006 10:03 PM
Ayo its Ghetto P back in da mothafuckin building, I got words for this limp dick pussy Kenneth Ackerman, wtf is ya problem u bitch ass wigga, finna get a cap popped in ya white ass, bitch ass motherfucka. I bet ya never talk sideways to black peeps in they face do ya ? monkey ass bitch, i bet you a pussy in real life, black people are the original man so quite being racist, don't think u get a hood pass just cuz ya faggit ass is dating some mixed race chick dun. I dun moved so much weight in da hood dat i'll hav mo chedda dan you'll ever have, so dwell on dat fag.
Posted by: Ghetto P at April 23, 2006 01:15 AM
FUCK OPRAH! FUCK OPRAH! FUCK OPRAH!
SHE JUST HATIN CAUSE LUDA IS ONE OF THE REALIST RAPPERS OUT THERE AND AINT AFRAID TO SPEAK WHATS ON HIS MIND.
FUCK T.I. TOO! LUDA IS BETTER AND IF ANYBODY GOT A PROBLEM HOLLA AT ME.
BITCHES!
Posted by: STREETSTYLE07 at April 23, 2006 01:24 AM
*ATTENTION*
GHETTO PHARMACIST IS GAY!
Posted by: *ATTENTION*LOSER ALERT! at April 23, 2006 01:38 AM
Hip-Hop sucks nowadays. This is true. I don't even like Ludacris' music, but I feel that it is unfair to attack a grown man in a free country for something he says. The bottom line is rappers don't get to choose which songs get played on the radio, or TV. They're just pawns for Clear Channel, and Viacom which owns MTV,BET,VH1, and every other station. And there's only 4 major record labels so whatever they say goes in the music industry. That's the problem. So don't attack 50 and Luda when it's Viacom that won't play Public Enemy and Dead Prez. They're just expressing themselves, and they have a right to do that.
Also, Ludacris has a foundation, and was also honored by the mayor of Atlanta with his own day in 2004, so all that he's a sell out shit is garbage. Jay-Z's building a school. Master P has kept his old school open. Plenty of rappers have bought books for the kids but, the racist media, full of ofay's and sellouts don't acknowledge hip-hop unless it's something negative.
Smarten up people, they've sabatoged the schools to the point where even if you stay in school the schools we go to are so far behind, that when most of us get to college we can't keep up. That's done on purpose. So you can't blame kids for wanting to be rappers or NBA players, because the schools aren't good enough to produce a large number of doctors and lawyers
Posted by: theblackdeath at April 23, 2006 02:19 AM
Ayo its Ghetto P back in da mothafuckin building, I got words for this limp dick pussy Kenneth Ackerman, wtf is ya problem u bitch ass wigga, finna get a cap popped in ya white ass, bitch ass motherfucka. I bet ya never talk sideways to black peeps in they face do ya ? monkey ass bitch, i bet you a pussy in real life, black people are the original man so quite being racist, don't think u get a hood pass just cuz ya faggit ass is dating some mixed race chick dun. I dun moved so much weight in da hood dat i'll hav mo chedda dan you'll ever have, so dwell on dat fag.
Posted by: Ghetto P at April 23, 2006 01:15 AM
Um yeah? I like how you're trying to call out a racist prick, but do you have to be ignorant while doing it?
Posted by: the exposer at April 23, 2006 02:44 AM
just to you white folks. yall some real cowns i guess you hate blacks so bad but ya ridin around playin black music all day everyday real fuckin clowns. oprah she does her lil good deeds but when is she ever around blacks without security, aint noboby gon take shit from her the white folk dun took the black pride, luda awesome dude he gon keep doin his thang and get his own talk show lol (fuck oprah pepsi and bill "my shit dont satnk orielly). We as blacks do need to get better bottom line is before the these rappers and whoever else can do a damn thing the parents need to do something. This shit starts with the parents if we dont teach how they suppose to know. We need to stop waiting for TV and music and everything else to change and raise our kids and do it our damn self. We as a people are number 1 consumers, top atheletes and as far as i see better at anyone else at anything we put our mind to doing. As far as Bush, Orielly keeneth whatever ya name is and all other white prejudice dickheads get off black folk dicks and get a life. Oh yeah kenneth you say you on hear for a thesis for ur class, u couldnt find a heavy metal site huh, u wouldnt have shit to talk about plus you know u like black hell thats why your girl black u fuckin wannabe
Posted by: aparks at April 23, 2006 08:13 AM
Posted by: aparks at April 23, 2006 08:15 AM
Luda has a point about being treated differently. But he has to understand that Chappelle and Rock are COMEDIANS, they make jokes. Luda is a RAPPER, he makes sexual and degrading messages about women. But it's cool, he's getting money. Personally I would just move on and continue getting money, you will not win a battle with Oprah, she can have your career flattened with one word. So Luda, chill out and tread carefully.
Posted by: gully son at April 23, 2006 01:14 PM
Just because Oprah is rich and successful, does not make her an Uncle Tom. This is why BLACK AMERICA is fucked up as it is. We bicker and point and dissect one's accomplishemnts. What do you want Oprah to be, a igronant fat bitch, that's what you want, because we need more women like Oprah. Just because she dissed your favorite rapper, does not mean that she is a sellout. As far as I know, Luda is more the sellout that her. He makes music that continues to degrade our culture, but you do not look at that. Not everyone has to like RAPPERS, most I do not like because they can't rap about anything but rims and diamonds. Instead of giving thumbs up to Oprah and Luda for making it and succeeding, you decide to chastise and you do not have anything going for yourself. Niggers will be niggers unless change happens into the community. Stop blaming this and that and chase your dream to be whomever you want to be. You want to be a rapper, DO it. you want to be a label executive, DO It. You want to be rich like Oprah, DO IT. Don't complain, enflame your destiny.
PEACE
Posted by: gully son at April 23, 2006 01:23 PM
Anywho arguing with black people is like teaching an inner-city black kid how to read it just a waste of time
Posted by: Kenneth Ackerman at April 22, 2006 10:36 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That was sooo wrong...but it was still hilarious otherwise...but when you think about it, its the truth...sad but very true
Posted by: Aston at April 23, 2006 05:20 PM
Oprah only represents the wealty 1%
She and Bill Cosby are apart of the illuminati just ask Dave Chaplle who is behind him not having his show on comedy central or better yet ask him the real reason he fled to Africa
Aint nothing like having the fruit of islam track your every move courtesy of bill and oprah
They fucked dave out of 50 million dollars
Now he's doing block party movies
Posted by: Sloathra Whimpy at April 23, 2006 06:51 PM
hahahaha, ackerman, u probably masturbate when people respond to your uneducated comments, thats why u are on here all the time, jacking off to stupidity, i mean, how ironic, everything u type is "LUDACRIS", hahahahaha
Posted by: Kenneth Killer at April 23, 2006 07:08 PM
For everyone that don't like Luda... You know where to go and you know what to do!! Luda is one of the kindest rappers out there in the industry! He was one of the ones who helped Hurricane Katrina Victims, He is the one with a children's foundation, He is the one that's helping alot of beginning artists. I give full props to Ludacris!!!! If Oprah was going to make stupid comments, she shouldn't have called him, wasting his time, to come on her show. All the people that are against Ludacris are haters and WISHED that they could be HIM, so stop hating. So Luda, keep on Pimpin' All over the World and let the haters hate!!! NUFF SAID
Posted by: LudasWifey at April 23, 2006 08:31 PM
It must be nice to come onto the internet and pose as something your not. You know who you are!
Posted by: 2 many posers at April 23, 2006 08:33 PM
WHO CARES! People taking the hip-hop shit way 2 far, it now seems that if your are not ''down'' or ''in-tune'' with the hip-hop culture then it must your not black or something. Oprah grew up in mississippi in the 60's do honestly thank she can truly identify with the hip-hop lifestyle. ALso i dont blame her with having a vendetta against rappers trying to be actors since the movie industry is becoming oversatured with rappers making a cross over in the movie world. NOW granted ludacris did an alright job in CRASH , most of his peers who make the cross over SUCK!
Posted by: j smoove at April 23, 2006 08:59 PM
"who told oprah she can tell another grown-man what to do if its putting food on his table." -- blowitoutchaass
Can I be real?
Be real son.
Real?
Be real real son!
Dear blowitoutchaass,
One of our society's biggest problems today is the fact that we think any actions, no matter how contemptible, can be justified by saying "I'm just trying to make ends meet", or "It puts food on the table doesn't it?". Be it slanging, boosting, robbing, hitting, whatever, we always say our reason is so that we can get by. But is this really our reason? Or is it our excuse? No matter who you are, no matter what the circumstances, if you feel that your only option is illegal, then I condemn you. I condemn you, not only as a criminal, but as a detriment to black America as a whole. And I'm not speaking as one without experience, so no-one need patronize me as one.
Because of the images we see in the media, we have all of a sudden begun to believe that such a lifestyle is acceptible. When "gangsta" becomes part of the national vocabulary as an adjective with positive connotation, we should realize that we have been brainwashed.
Who is to blame for this mess? BET, MTV, the Disney Channel, "gangsta" rap, XXL, the Source, VIBE, high-school dropouts, the list goes on, but these are the major players.
BET and MTV are guilty of capitalizing off of the African-American man, and brainwashing him into believing that because he sees this lifestyle in the music videos and on the reality shows, that it must be true. Everyday we see many of the quintessential ignorant black population on network television constantly acting as dumb as humanly possible, and we come to believe that we truly ARE those idiots on tv. The very same applies to the Disney Channel, whose shows are completely unrealistic, acting as though there are no problems between people of different race. Well guess what, come middle school, there's a hell of a culture shock when the (mostly white) kids who watched these shows see that all the black people group together, as do the Asians, Latinos, etc. It's mostly the way that Disney, a notoriously white organization, subtly siphons the Hip Hop culture into its programs that bothers me. The other day I heard a little white girl, who was obviously upper-class, say "Oh snap homie", I felt like slapping her, I honestly did. But that's a perfect example of the self-control that I'm actually not preaching about right now... Nevermind.
One time I heard one of my friends talk about an episode of the "Proud Family", in which a black character on the show was playing baseball, when her base coach told her to steal 2nd. She promptly picked up 2nd base and ran off with it. It's not what happened in the show that bothered me, though, it's what my friend said after that, "Now you know that girl's black!". Why do we allow ourselves to believe that our brothers and sisters are truly like what we see in the media?
I mention our Hip Hop magazines because A)they could use their position to better our communities, and be truly informative about what's really going on; and B)they are such babies when it comes to criticism, instead of keeping an open ear and actually listen to what people think, they just swallow the kids of those who swallow theirs, and say "fuck you haters" to those who don't. I realize that "Hip Hop magazine" entails subject matter relating purely to Hip Hop, but the fact that so many black people who don't watch/read the news read these magazines, it would be hoped that those people, who claim to truly care about the Hip Hop society, would perhaps use these venues to help spread awareness about what's going on.
Before we can expect change to happen, we must first come to grips with what the sources of our problems are. Much as I hate to say it, Hip Hop has become a major contributing factor in the corruption of today's black youth. I don't know what it's like in other parts of the country, but where I live many young black men, who were fully capable of becoming doctors, lawyers, etc., merely drop out of high school with the intentions of making it in the rap business. None of them have, and I'll tell you straight up, none of them will -- I've heard them try to flow, it's not pretty.
This next part's to everyone:
Hip Hop fans, when someone criticizes a Hip Hop icon, don't immediately jump down their throat and accuse them of being anti-black or anti-Hip Hop, try to look at it from their view point, you never know, they may be right. Now I like Luda alot, I personally believe that he is pretty much the most talented lyricist from the south -- once again, I know what I'm talking about, DON'T PATRONIZE ME! Luda's heart is in the right place, but unfortunately, he only speaks about what he believes in, he doesn't stand up for it. "Pimpin All Over the World" was the right kind of idea, but the absolutely wrong message.
Now, about Oprah. Oprah is a black leader in society, but not a civil rights leader. Oprah had a harsher life growing up than half of the black America criticizing her. People are calling her an "Uncle Tom" because she doesn't show a whole lot of love for the rappers and degenerates who corrupt our youth. Anyone who is a follower of Malcolm X could tell you that, were he alive today, it would disgust him to see what we define as Hip Hop today. He would condemn affirmative action; condemn our medicare system; condemn our flimsy social structure; condemn the images and programs that portray violence, drugs, and gratuitous indiscriminate sexual behavior in a regular light; and above all, he would condemn the messages that are conveyed through Hip Hop as a whole. He is without a doubt the least "Uncle Tom"-ish brother to ever grace the corrupt nation known as America with his presence. Malcolm X taught that before we can hope to integrate into society with all other races, we must first unite amongst ourselves and solve our problems. Our problems are our own, and it is up to us to solve them. If we keep blaming our troubles on everyone else, then we are no better than the Bush Administration and FEMA.
I hate to say this... god, you have no idea how much I hate to say this, but in a way, Ackerman's last post was kinda right. For the wrong reasons, of course. This is 100% Dj Nahlege, not someone posting as him, if you need confirmation, I'd be glad to supply it.
Let's clarify, though, I mean he was quasi-right about what he said in the second paragraph, that's all. He is, however, way off about Bill O'Reilly. Bill O'Reilly is nothing more than a pompous, opinionated hypocrite who happens to be a shoe-in for my coveted "Douche-Bag of the Year" award, which I will announce on May 1st, don't let me forget, cuz this year promises to be a close competition (It's between Bill O'Reilly, Michael Brown, Kevin Federlein, Tom Cruise, Kenneth Ackerman, and SOHH Irreverent. If you'd like some say in who will receive this award, then you can write me a letter about who should win and why; then stuff it in a self-addressed envelope and mail it in along with ten dollars cash and a note saying "If you are reading this, then you sir are a douche-bag". If you seriously want to express your opinion, then you can send me an e-mail discussing the same things, but it will probably make no difference whatsoever.)
**Yawn**
Saving the world is hard work, I'm going to bed now. Good night bitches (sorry Oprah, it slipped).
Posted by: Dj Nahlege at April 23, 2006 11:49 PM
^^
I hope you didnt call me out once, cuz i aint readin all that shit!
Posted by: yo mama at April 24, 2006 12:09 AM
The bottom line is that no one can degrade you but you. If you're not a bitch, then they're not talking about you. I have never heard a rapper call all women bitches, but there are bitches in the world. Women call all men dogs all the time. So what's the problem? A bitch is just a female dog.
And no, Ackerman was not right about anything. See the average American is very ignorant period. Black America just suffers disproportionately from it. What do you call Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, the Olsen twins, and all these other "Stupid Girls", as Pink called them. They are ignorant but rich, and that's the difference between black and white. They are ignorant but rich. They put us in the worst schools which guarantee that only the smartest will become doctors and lawyers. Then criticize the whole community when only a few of us pursue higher education. If you went to the schools we had to go to, then most of you wouldn't be going to college either.
I was watching "My Block" Puerto Rico on MTV, and noticed that the Africans there are suffering the same way, maybe even worst, do you blame that on hip-hop too? Or do you just have to admit that there is a conspiracy against black people everywhere. Yes if you are driven you can make it, but like Chris Rock said, "When you're white the sky's the limit, when you're black the limit's the sky.
P.S. Chris Rock also said, "The difference between being black and being white is, that black C student can't get a job at Burger King, but a white C student is running our country.
Posted by: theblackdeath at April 24, 2006 01:55 AM
When you're white the sky's the limit, when you're black the limit's the sky.
I hope you realize that means the same thing for blacks and whites if you use that stupid phrase.
Posted by: ?? at April 24, 2006 03:08 AM
to everybody who think its cool to disrepect and show-up a black man infront of whites, in my opinion, is dead fucking wrong no matter how much money the got! if she really had problem with rappers using the word BITCH(like stedman haven't said the word)then she should have said it in private like a professional. THE SHOW WAS ABOUT RACIAL DIVIDE AND THE MOVIE CRASH! save all that SOBB STORY and black hood people are ignorant shit. I LOVE MY HOOD FOLKZ MAKING MOVES(LUDA, ICE CUBE, EVEN 50 CENT!)BECAUSE I LOVE BEING BLACK. and i dont have to write a long-ass lame fucking newsletter to prove my point, either
Posted by: blowitoutchaass at April 24, 2006 03:23 AM
:) White People Facts :)
1. White men have little penis'
2. White people have no melanin
3. White women have flat butts
4. White = Color of Death
5. The Bible and Quran both speak of the pale man as the Devil
5. White women have sour smelling vagina's
6. White men make up 92% of the world's child molestors.
7. Black preachers may be thieves. White priests ARE child molesters/ rapists.
8. White people are genetically weak
9. White people are genetically reccessive
10. White people have weak bones.
11. White women cant fuck, that is why they always want to put a black dick in their mouth.
12. White women perfer Black Men to White men.
13. Black men perfer Black Women (dont believe what you see on TV)
14. White people will always be scum
15. THE HISTORY OF WHITE PEOPLE IS VERY SHORT IN COMPARISON TO THAT OF PEOPLE WITH MELANIN.
16. The Pope was a Nazi
:) PEACE OUT
Posted by: Blog Civilizer at April 24, 2006 11:18 AM
Posted by: Domo at April 24, 2006 11:21 AM
Crash was racist Fuck that movie. The theme was it's ok to rape and assault Black women. No the theme really was, "No matter what we white people put you blacks through, we make up for everyday." EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITH CRASH/LIKED CRASH CAN SUCK MY LONG BLACK THICK COBRA OF A DICK. (Blog Civi what up!, they be taken your posts down my nig.)
Posted by: Faggot white boy killa at April 24, 2006 11:25 AM
Posted by: Blog Civilizer at April 24, 2006 11:27 AM
Oprah is a brilliant black beautiful billionaire who has respect for the black community which is why she's given more money to black causes than any black person in history.
Luda is a sell-out Uncle Tom who is trying to bring back slavery by calling all blacks the N word.
Well Luda you tried that crap with the wrong woman and she confronted you face to face and now all you can do is cry about to some white magazine.
Posted by: Diamond at April 24, 2006 12:53 PM
Shut the Fuck up Diamond..Oprah is a whitie..cracker.
Oprah has always been a corny darkskinned rasict white bitch.
She ain't gonna be black until the white people diss her for being black.,which they will very soon.
Fuck Oprah.
Fuck Oprah.
Fuck Oprah.
Fuck Oprah.
Posted by: Essex at April 24, 2006 01:17 PM
I agree with DJ Nahlege
I'm feeling you son yeah!
seriously
Luda has a point against Oprah and I respect Oprah issue but blacklisting hip-hop artist from her show and shunning them and the entire hip-hop culture is not the right way to get your message across.
Luda should to respond to oprah because she well respected in very high places.
The people who actually are in positions to affect society, politics and economy respect oprah and will listen to Oprah. Hip-hop is not respected by those people so if she publically comes out and speaks negatively of hip-hop the domino effect can be huge because there's a very large group of people in high places dying for a opportunity and a leader for their cause to put a end or at least seriously censor all rap/hip hop music. But while I feel luda Oprah and a lot of them have a good point. The no more morality in the music anymore. As much as I like certain artist music be honest we've gone too far. We've got artist making death threats on records, braggin about selling drugs, braggin about boning cats Babies mothers, we got potential child molesters going platnium, rappers having shoot outs in front of radio stations, people sending R Kelly to piss on other people kids, and as much as I hate to admit it. but we got strippers in videos making names for themselves and starting careers at least back in the day they had to know how to dance now they show up look pretty and get paid! Time to be honest with ourselves we've gone way too far.
How can anyone be madd at Oprah when everytime there's a morality issue with any artist we ignore it and financially support em. There was a period of time when rappers talked about what they went through with regret because no one wants to go through what they went through but now we wear our ignorance like phat gold chain so everyone can see. But yall madd a Oprah, I don't agree with her but I can't blame her for feeling the way she feels.
I'm sorry but I miss hip/hop right now we have rap music basically a gang of cats from the hood who forgot and betrayed everything the families taught them and use rap music as their new hustle to making a quick buck.
Hell maybe thats why the south is doing well cause everyone here only talks about drugs,guns, beef and sex
I guess thats what Terrence Howard character in crash ment with he told ludas character in crash "you Embarrass me" I guess that what people like oprah feel when they see drug dealers, convicts & child molesters(R Kelly) making millions and we the hip hop community not take a stand and say
enough is enough, your rich now why are you so angry you got a 2nd chance at life help and uplift you people. We proud of you stop calling us bitches
your jewelry is hot in all you talked about on 5 songs in a row now talk about something that has to do with me!
Great you from the hood, you repped the hood now whats in you music that's either going to help people get where you at or learn from your mistakes!
last before anyone blames white people check your selves, if you ain't doing the right thing please shut the fk up
cause even if you have a point the first thing their going to say is race card! Then when race actually is a issue we can't white people or subarban blacks to listen cause some many of us(black people) bring up race out of context! and if your thought Crash was racist you need to watch it again cause you missed the point
Posted by: Banga! at April 24, 2006 01:31 PM
Dear Luda
Please stop disrespecting black people by calling us the N word. Oprah already smacked you down once and if you call her people the N word again, she will drag back on her show and give you another beating.
Oprah Winfrey is the most powerful woman in the world and the world's ONLY black billionaire and while uncle Tom's like Luda are degrading blacks with the N word, Oprah is building schools for black girls in South Africa, and if Luda even thinks of calling those girls the N word or the B word Oprah will kick your ass up and down yet again.
Posted by: Jim at April 24, 2006 01:40 PM
I'm so glad to see everyone dissing Luda for the Uncle Tom that he is. Oprah has integrity and instead of pandering to the ignorance and self-hatred among many blacks, Oprah's challenging black folks to have the self-respect to not call each other racist terms.
No wonder Oprah's both the most influential woman alive and the ONLY black billionaire on Earth!
You go on Girl!
Posted by: Shaneex at April 24, 2006 01:47 PM
Luda is a disgrace to the whole black race. What kind of a black man goes around using the N word? A pretty stupid and self-hating one, I say. If blacks can't even respect themselves, why should anyone else respect us?
People like Nelson Mandela worship Oprah for all the millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars out of her own pocket she has given to the black community and the millions more she raises through her show. Oprah has respect for the black community and she shows it both through her words and deeds. No wonder Oprah's the most successful black person the world has ever seen.
Posted by: Cameon at April 24, 2006 01:53 PM
I agree with everyone here:
Luda is a self-hating Uncle Tom sell-out.
Oprah's a brilliant black beautiful billionaire who has done more financially to help blacks folks than any black ever.
Black folks sound so stupid when they go around calling themselves Nigga.
Way to go Oprah for taking a proactive stand in the black community and starting a movement for self-respect among our people.
Oprah knows she's gona take a lot of flack from young blacks for dissing certain popular lyrics, but she has the courage and integrity to speak her mind when it serves her people.
Luda has nothing original, constructive or intelligent to say. He will degrade black folks all day long if he thinks it will make him cooler and richer. What a pathetic waste of oxygen than man is.
Posted by: Tyler at April 24, 2006 02:00 PM
I can't wait till I have a daughter so she'll have a brilliant successful dignified black woman like Oprah to look up to, a woman who climbed out of the gehetto, sexual abuse, illegitimacy, teen pregnancy, obesity, and a crack addiction to become the world's ONLY black billionaire and the most influential woman on Earth, and she did it in the most competetive and improvisational field of TV talk shows.
Oprah is a cultural icon and the positive images of black folks she brings to TV not to mention the tens of millions she personally donates our appreciated by black folks everywhere.
As Jamie Fox said, when we die and go to heaven, we gona be so surprised to discover that God is Oprah Winfrey.
That's right! God is a black woman named Oprah! The rest of y'all can worship white men but I say God is Oprah!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jamie at April 24, 2006 02:16 PM
Everytime I turn on the TV Oprah is raising money to build more houses for Katrian victims.
What the hell has Luda ever done for the black community besides make money off us by calling us the N word?
Posted by: Josh at April 24, 2006 02:22 PM
Josh, fam either your watching the same episode of Oprah or you only turn on the TV once in a blue moon-lol...
Is it just me or that everyone who has an argument is saying Oprah is great because she 'donates a jillion dollars' to every cause in Africa and Luda's an uncle tom...
BLAST4Me, I hear your argument, and it makes a little more sense than just "Oprah donates all this money so she can attack another black person on her show when he wasn't prepared for that issue coming on there..."
Listen people.
Listen real close. Most of you on here haven't done half the shit that Ludacris has done let alone a portion of what Oprah has done for the communities.
Go and shit on Nelly and some of these other rap stars-but that dude had a truck and was down in the gulf donating time and money after Katrina like Oprah did. A lot of hip hop stars-Dre, Timbaland, even 50 donated clothing to these kids.
What you all fail to understand is that Oprah got props but a lot of people including myself whose mom lost her house in that shit found it hard to even go down there and help out-the government wasn't letting anyone drive into these areas to help--that's a whole different story.
My question is and I asked it LAST WEEK: is it okay because you donate money to various causes to sit there an wag your fingers at the black youth?
O was "unprofessional" in how she did that shit-bottom line. Why not have a show strictly on that-don't attack a guest who you know didn't come on for that. When are her shows delving into the psyche of our people and why they feel the way they do--because that would alienate her WHITE AUDIENCE--the truth hurts.
The problem with our "leaders" is that we call out each other in front of the media and give those people ammunition. We used to solve our problems in-house, not in front of everyone to see.
That's my beef with Oprah-I can't sit here and say neither her and Luda are Toms because some of you fucks on here do nothing progressive nor come up with viable solutions to break the cycle.
Posted by: Naj at April 24, 2006 03:35 PM
I agree with Ludacris' comments. I mean if Oprah is offended by women being degraded or insulted she should have a problem with it no matter how its done. You can't say "I don't want to be called a bitch or a ho unless it makes people laugh!" If anything, the fact that the degradation of women is used for comdeic purposes should only enrage her, not say its ok. If a White person refers to only Black people as "niggers or coons" Im not gonna like it, whether its in music or comedy
Posted by: CTRapking at April 24, 2006 06:02 PM
Hold up, hold up, there seem to be several instances of people taking what I have said out of context.
Blog Civilizer:
I hope that you don't actually believe in what you just said, because if you do, then you are no better than the white man to whom I refer. To make such sweeping indictments about a race is ignorant, counter-productive, and only augments the racial tensions which exist in our society. Do not try to argue that Malcolm X did it, because if you knew anything about Brother Malcolm, you would know that he discontinued such atrocities after leaving the Nation of Islam. When I speak on our issues and "the white man" I mean the white men in power, and the ignorant white folk who don't even think about what they do. There are good white people. I apologize if I was unclear about my stance on this.
Ack-man:
-You douche-bag. I said that you were kinda right, and what do you do? Go and get a big head about it.
-"Rock was probably referring to President Bush who was a C average student at Yale University".
NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!!!! I think everyone who heard that knew what it meant, even those statistically-correct stupid black people you're always talking about.
-"...do you have to be intelligent in order to dribble a ball?" Obviously not, because you can, you dip-shit!!
-"You ignorant Negro you need to go to your local library and pick up some knowledge so you can stop making false assumptions"
This bitch can't be serious!!!! False assumptions?!?! You just said that the majority of African-Americans are ignorant by nature.
- 1st try: "now virtue of character"
2nd try: "not virtue of charecter"
You gon' just sit there and say black folks are ignorant!?! Get a spell-checker bitches!
- I bet you think Jesus was white don't you? In the bible he is clearly described as having features indicative of African descent, I'm not even a Christian and I knew that!
Jesus Christ, I don't believe some of the stupid shit people be saying!!
Anyway, I'm sorry y'all, I just got a little heated there for a minute.
Everyone:
While I am on Oprah's side here, I do think everybody's being a little harsh on Luda. It is unfair to call him an Uncle Tom, for he does not with evil intent say what he says. Luda is not an Uncle Tom, he is merely unaware of the effect that everything he does has on those who follow him. He has the wrong way of thinking, but it isn't his fault, in this America we live in, there's so many different opinions and so many supporters of each, that it's hard to figure out how to believe.
Ludacris is a very smart man, you cannot argue with that. And I think that he could really begin to make a difference if he would step away from this herd mentality and start thinking for himself. That's what I did.
I realized that I was just following what was popular at the moment, and I stepped away from trying to be like everyone else, trying to be accepted as something that I wasn't. After that it began to dawn on me what was really going on. This transformed me, someone who had just been that kind of follower, into what I am now, a proudly introspective and educated young man trying to make a difference.
P.S. - Yes, E.R., I really am only 16 -I was just lucky enough to become enlightened at a younger age to what I was doing wrong. I say enlightened, I would liken it to Neo waking up from The Matrix, that kind of thing.
Posted by: Dj Nahlege at April 24, 2006 06:56 PM
What I was saying when I stated that "only the smartest will make it out" was that there are people who are destined from birth to be great, who are smart, who can sing, or can play a sport. These people can make it. The point is that if you are a regular person, with no discernable skills or remarkable talent, you'll have an extremely hard time just trying to get by. Whereas a white person with a similar set of circumstances can still find a niche through societal norms that are more understanding of white shortcomings- i.e. Most people agree that Colin Powell or Condeleeza Rice would make better decisions that George W. Bush, but who's the president? Even if they ran against him, they wouldn't win, because most people could not bring themselves to vote for a black presidential candidate, no matter how qualified, and no matter how incompetent the white challenger.
P.S. Asshole Ackerman, George Bush was not even accepted into his home state school the University of Texas, because he was such a dumbass. He went to Yale on legacy because his father George H.W. Bush, and his grandfather Prescott Bush, went there and were members of Skulls and Bones. He didn't even deserve to be there. I guess you could say it was "affirmative action" that got him in there .
Posted by: theblackdeath at April 25, 2006 01:21 AM
Yo Nahlege, ok you're only 16, but let me say this. Suck my dick, you little pretentious dip-shit. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. I never said that black people are genetically inferior. I was merely stating that
A. George Bush was a C student at Yale, but he was rejected by his state school Texas because guess what? He wasn't that smart in high school either. He only got into Yale because his father and grandfather were Skull and Bones. It was in fact a form of "affirmative action" that got his moronic ass in one of the best schools in the world. Thus, illustrating my point exactly. The world will be more forgiving of white ignorance. whereas showing no mercy for poor minorities who never had the same opportunities as spoiled legacies like Bush and those Duke Lacrosse assholes. That's what I meant "the limit's the sky". It was not an accusation of black inferiority. It was a reiteration of whitey imposing will on the world by saying, "This is my spoiled white son. World be forgiving of his ignorance and arrogance, but don't expect any from him on you".
Sports are mostly black, because it is one of the few things that we get a fair shake in. That what I'm saying, in the NBA there's no such thing as legacies or nepotism. The same thing in music, talent is talent. When we get a level playing field like in sports and music, we succeed, but in this society, where dumbasses like George Bush, and all those spoiled "Super Sweet 16" bitches will always take precedent, it's hard for someone without their resources to survive. You have to be the best, strongest, smartest, and luckiest just to make it out of your neighborhood.
Posted by: theblackdeath at April 25, 2006 01:41 AM
yea oprah been holdin it down for a minute, idont watch her show but she represent black people cuz shes black so she cool with me..and when oprah first hit the scene black people wasnt even attending hers shows now shes rich with all these white folks in the crowd so niggaz hate and yea i use the word....and my dog luda wasnt prepared for the issue cuz he was appearing for his role in crash now that was messed up, but oprah was just stating her opinion luda should of been ready to respond like a freestyle (laughing) but thats my dog tho....CLICK HOT MUSIC AND PEEP THAT IGNORANT MUSIC hey everybody has an opinion (laughing)
Posted by: Hot Music CLICK HERE at April 25, 2006 04:19 AM
Well see first of all this **** aint even cause fo cause Luda should of let dat one go cause it's her opinion on how she want to judge her rappers as and have respect for some but not all but man Luda let dat go.
Posted by: Sasha at April 25, 2006 07:36 AM
Some of yall are buggin
Luda is a Uncle Tom are you crazy
why cause he stood up to Oprah
so if anyone doesn't turn the other cheek to Oprah their an Uncle Tom
do yall even know what she did.
Did yall watch crash Luda character was pivital in making the point that to often we black americans make too many excuses and too often blame white people for everything and sometime use race out of context you mean to tell me a UNCLE TOM can play that role. Oprah donates to charity so does Ludacris yall sound like some of the jackass's that listen and believe Bill O'Reilly
I like and respect Oprah but I heard them both talk about what happened and Oprah was wrong! So if I was Luda I'd speak on it too especially since she won't apologize and because her opinion is respected by a lot of people that don't even listen to any hip hop music including herself which is why she stereotypes all hip-hop artist.
The last we need is to have Oprah misrepresenting our culture. Yall jumping the gun with this Uncle Tom ish.
Cause he used the N word damn near everyone in black america uses the N word (its not right) but does that make us all Uncle Tom. Look is not a gansta rapper he's makes free-spirited fun music theres no positive or Negative messages in his music he's popular cause he's entertaining & talented. And Yes he uses the B word so what! Woman of all ages call each other B all the time and men can be and act like B's too. Like it or not the are times when the B word actually applies but just cause you use it. Doesn't mean you don't respect black woman and to be honest there's a lot of black woman that if the acted like lady's more often wouldn't get call B's plus don't act like yall didn't use it back in the day I've seen some blaxploitation films and it's the same shit different era!
I respect Oprah but some of yall need to get real
Posted by: Banga! at April 25, 2006 10:27 AM
Luda is not intelligent enough to understand Oprah's point. Blacks going around calling each other the N word is not healthy for the next generation of black folks and leads to a culture of laziness, self-hatred, and ignorance.
It's bad enough that Luda's crappy music has corrupted the blacks in America, but Oprah's building schools in South Africa and a lot of those kids watch her show, and she doesn't need Luda's ignorant culture dragging down South African blacks too.
Luda, stay off of Oprah's show until you have something intelligent to say. I don't care why you think it's okay to use the N word.
If you're truly talented, you'll find a more constructive way to express yourself.
Posted by: Shapeup at April 25, 2006 12:19 PM
Kenneth Ackerman I still can't believe you sad that shit about teaching an inner-city kid how to read! You on here saying that you "studing urbanization". Let me know when you start! Coming on this blog writing all the bullshit you writing is not moving your work load up any further. How about you actual visit urban areas, schools, youth clubs, etc.? What makes you think that everyone posting on this blog lives in an urban area? If that were the case then your ass wouldn't be on here now would you? You seem so much more like the ignorant one. As for blowitoutchaass, I didn't kiss anyones ass to get where I'm at! best believe... Luda is doin things for the community, I apololgize for saying that he wasn't... But I mean come on think about it. Why is it that all the negativity has more focus on it than his positve doing? Maybe he needs to step up more on the good. I respect him a great deal {I never said I didn't), because even though he can say potentially offensive things to SOME people, at the end of the day he's a smart man, with a great humor(which is sometimes misleading, depending on who you are).
Posted by: spelman_grad644 at April 25, 2006 08:20 PM
The negative outweighs the positive because the racist media, that glamorizes Elvis (a pedophile & drug addict), Babe Ruth(a drunk & a cheater), & Paris Hilton (a slut), points at black athletes and rappers because they are jealous. We are better at everything that we get a fair shake at. That's why they love when rappers and athletes get in trouble, because they envy us as a people. They know what we're capable of, if we get a shot.
Black people need to recognize this, rappers don't choose who gets on TV. The record companies do, so if you don't like what Ludacris or 50 have to say, don't buy it.
How many of you bought the last Public Enemy record?
The last Paris record?
The last Coup record?
That's what I thought. You can't complain if you are part of the solution.
Posted by: theblackdeath at April 26, 2006 01:09 AM
theblackdeath:
Are you the same person posting as Kenneth Ackerman? Because I was clearly addressing him when I gave my opinion of his "black people being genetically inferior" remark, not you. I never said that you said that, in fact, I've never said anything about you period.
So before you go calling my name, you'd better make for-damn-sure you've got your facts straight!
Posted by: Dj Nahlege at April 27, 2006 12:01 AM
ALot of you Negros defending Oprah need to sit down and evauate Ludacris's comments because he was on point. Im riding with Luda on this one, Listen to Ludacris albums, You dont hear Luda talking about killing, selling crack,or boastfully selling violence to kids like Curtis Jackson. Alot of his albums are comedy and he talks in the same language as Chris Rock or Dave Chapelle does when their doing their standups or releasing their comedy albums. How is the Phone Sex skit off Rock's Bring the Pain album any different from any Ludacris song? 50% of Chris's standup is sex, 70& of Eddie Murphay's aka Oprah's best friend material was Sex and the sh*t he use to put on his albums were no different from a Ludacris album so why is everybody always bitchin about Rappers being the bad guys?
N*ggas talking that Uncle Tom bullsh*t need to sit the f*ck down and do their homework before they judge Luda, He's really branching out his material as of late( Check out Karma, The joint with Nate Dogg) off Red Light District. He's opened up his own donation and he's done alot for the community, He's contributed alot to the Katrina Crisis and when handling business on a serious level, He