SOHH Atlanta

ITS ALL HYPOCRITICAL BUT IN A WAY I SEE HOW COMMON,KRS ECT WOULDNT BE IN THE SAME CATEGORY!ITS JUST TWO DIFFERENT THINGS YEAH THEYRE SENDIN A SIMILAR MESSAGE BUT AT THE SAME TIME ITS STILL KINDA CONTRADICTIONAL!

If they do figure out a way to merge the two then what would 50 do? Too many people will lose money!

Just because a rapper has some songs that don't pertain to sex, drugs and murder doesn't make them a christian rapper. Of course I say that without having heard any Christian raps outside of the one in Sister Act II. My thought would be that a christian rapper raps about praising God. Not even the song "Jesus Walks" rises to that standard.

Once again we have people who don't know our culture trying to define our culture. In 1989, KRS-One had a song named "Why is That?" for the "Blueprint of Hip-Hop" album that broke down the geneology of people in the Bible From Moses to Issac on down. He also had a song on "KRS-One" called 'It's Not Natural" that broke down how the world was populated according to the Bible. His efforts and other artists' efforts should be recognized before anyone who can rhyme scripture is recognized. We should stop lettinng outsiders label, define and dictate to our culture. Some so-called spriritual artist are tight. But when these folks start yo define what is good a nd what is not we should draw the line. My daughter actually had a "Preacher" come to her church and tell the congregation that Hip-Hop was bad for the spirit because it came from Africa and didn't give glory to Jesus. I had to kindly break shit down to my seed and explain to her that this dude did not know WTF he was talking about. I love nothing more than to spread the TRUE knowledge and origins of my culture. WE need to keep the truth alive and not let outsiders define our culture or pretty soon EMINEM will be remembered as the "King" of Hip_Hop in the same way Elvis is remembered as the "King" of rock and Roll.

Eminem's lyrics are tight but the king of hip hop is TUPAC...anyway, if this is christian rap you're talking about, then no, it's not gonna be taken seriously...the closest thing anyone got to rapping about God was kanye west's jesus walks...christian rap is garbage...i need my grimey, gritty street hip hop

Man, you about to stir all types of controversy and drama with this one. I really don't wan't to touch this, but I will put 2cents in. Too many people tend to take the good book out of context, and then there are those who really shouldn't be speaking too much on it at all, because of the lack of knowledge. Either your doing it God's way or your doing it the worlds way and the only way to determine that is to be going by the book and of course that depends on what book you go by. If these rappers want to make mention of these things in their song, so be it, I say let them, people had no problem tuning out Jesus, so I'm sure they'll have none tuning out these guys if there's something they do not want to hear. And I would say one of the differences between hiphop gospel and what these guys may be doing is that most hiphop gospelers go to church and are studying under a preacher to get a better understand of the word. Faith comes by hearing the word and how can you hear without a preacher that's the word period.

^^^^
Well said GetKnowledge

Yo..check out K-Drama's song "Did He Say That"...and you'll have the answer to the original question.

http://www.myspace.com/kdrama

God Bless!
PZ

T-Bone once said on a KRS track somethin' like "Elijah Mohamed wasn't resurected or ain't comin' back" some ole shit like that. True as it maybe why dis the NOI? There is evidence to say the same about "jesus". Not his real name either (roman invention). Nor was he a dumb ass christian (roman invention). Nor did he read the "bible" (roman creation. I can go on. Anyway, do you, respect others or somebody gone pull ya skirt up.

This is hip-hop first. Not gospel. Fuckin crusaders always co-optin' shit.
Suckas.

Please lets not introduce MySpace to Sohh.com, MySpace is the corniest thing ever created !

Good music iz good music... hatin' is still a sickness.

man ima christian...a christian is sum1 who buleeves in god n has a personal relationship with him. n i rap 2...buh im not a christian rappa. i buleeve jus bcuz u a christian doesnt mean u cant speak ur mind how u want to. i rap about wha da nex rapper speaks on. how gard i had it growin up...how smokin eases pain...how rappin brings da hos and how i keep dat heat incase a nigga gets outta line but i also rap about god to...my look at it is the lord may not approve of my music...but he approves of me. now does that makes sense to yall? lemme kno ~suppa~

tizzle fizz,

I feel you. You come off sincere. But HELL 2 DA NAW! That type of thinkin' makes no sense. You can testify but "rap brings da hoes". Would "Jesus" say it that way? How hard we grew up is not an excuse for being a filthy mouth rapper. If you a christian it is your obligation to reflect that at all times. Be the example. Everybody knows no one is perfect.
But by sharing your virtues and not your vices (to the whole damn world!) you don't encourage or introduce your flaws to others.
God is Love.

Hot trax "don't get it twisted". Keep doin it for the Lord.

PZ

TO: BLAST4ME

Alright, I was trying not to weigh in on this but after I saw the comments by BLAST4ME, I had no choice. First off like someone else on here said, "music is music". Hip Hop is no less Hip Hop based on the topic. You can rap about anything and it still can be Hip Hop. It's all about the perspective. Secondly, let's just talk about black music which Hip Hop is an extension of. There is no African American music or culture without Christianity! This next portion is directly dedicated to BLAST4ME. Because of his or her ignorance, I'm forced to do this. You said something about "Crusaders" co-opting ish? Pop culture today (which is dominated by African American culture) has been directly, blatantly, un-apologetically "co-opted" from the The Church. If you knew anything about African American culture you would not have even thought about posting what you posted because you were DEAD WRONG! Every note ever sung in an R&B or Soul style came straight out of the church and NO ONE can argue with that. Seeing as how Hip Hop was born from Funk which comes from R&B one could easily conclude that Hip Hop would not exist without the church.
I don't want to spend too much time on this next part but I also want to show how you are as ignorant about the Bible as you are about MY CULTURE (as in, obviously not yours, whether you're black or not)! Let me brush my shoulders off real quick before I respond to each one of your laughable claims about MY SAVIOR! The name Jesus is the English equivalent to the Hebrew name Yeshua which every Christian knows, that's not some privileged info that only the all mighty BLAST4ME Knows about. No one has ever said or believed that Jesus was a Christian because he didn't worship himself now did he? He was always praying to the father in order to show us what we needed to be doing even though he was God himself manifested in human flesh. Christ was a Christian, are you serious? Lastly you mentioned Christ reading the Bible? THERE WAS NO BIBLE IN THE TIME OF CHRIST! There were only the ancient scriptures of the old testament which by every account Christ quoted frequently in order to show his followers that what he taught was in line with what they already believed and that he was the Messiah who was promised to the children of Israel. You need to get your facts straight before you make claims. Stop quoting things that you heard so and so & them say. In conclusion, Jesus loves you despite your ignorance and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. His love will never stop no matter how hard you try to shake him.
If you want to respond, holler at me directly at TheTrashlist@gmail.com or www.AndreRamone.com. God bless.

Holy Hip-hop is stuff you can listen to in the church, with children, with your parents and that deals with a Christian message. As far as I know, Dead Prez said "Eff the Bible, give me a rifle", KRS said "Eff Nelly", Kanye's "Workout Plan" will not get played in church, and Common talks about a "b*tch" in "testify" and "hoes" on The Corner...

but let me flip the script, how come Grits, Cross Movement, Tunnel Rats, New Breed, Flame, Da truth and countless others don't get nominated (Vibe, MTV, Grammy, AMA) , don't get covered (Vibe, XXL, Source) or get any radio or video play (BET, MTV) in anything having to do with hip-hop?

Whatever Man!! I used to do "Holy Hip-Hop", but I stopped becuz everybody got they own beliefs. Holy Hip Hop is pointed directly towards one religion, and there are hundreds of diffrent religions.

To ANDRE RAMONE, all I can say is I agree for the most part of what you said, especially the name, flesh and blood did not reveal that to you, it was only by his spirit. And to TIZZLE FIZZ, I agree also, all sin and come short but God accepts us regardless, the first step to being strengthend is recognizing that you have weaknesses in the first place.

95% of hip hop today iz wack and an insult to ones conscious and creative thought. There needs to be a balance. These industry big wigs are using hip hop now as a mental slavery. Any real hip hopper respects any cat with a dope flow and skills over a dope beat. Whats going on these dayz ain't hip hop, it's business, so if you about ya business then why not break bread and bring in something fresh? You can't hate on a dude for reppin his God, there's a definite market that includes many non- christians. A lot of people just tired of being fed stale chips. Get ya business up!!

If you haven't noticed Common's last album was subpar and too commercial compared to what he has done and is capable of, then you haven't listened to him until "Be." Kanye didn't even write "Jesus Walks" and everything else he makes is commercial. ("Workout Plan," "Gold Digger," etc.)

Holy Hip Hop .....HELL NO, .......give me my G-G-G-G-G-G-UNIT, Gangsta shit & i'm good.

Holy Hip Hop will never be taken seriously, because the church is dying. A church's foundation is built upon the future, and there is probably not going to be a church in the next few hundred years because there is hardly any more believers.

You know that there is about a 6% probability that someone over the age of 18 will join the Christian Church.

All the older people are dying out along with the faith, and they are not successfully passing it on.

To: Whoever wants some! (Andre Ramone)

Hip-hop is all about the topic.
Someone please tell this boy how many rap records are not hip-hop.
According to Kool Herc "hip-hop is the cultural expression of inner-city youth. Period.

Also I was trying show why people are reluctant to holy-hop (lol). I used wack ass T-bone (lol) as an example. Once you start attacking others beliefs, as he did, then it's gone be on.
The problem is the biggest problem black people have had since slavery. That roman standardized religion. You think slave masters forced the true religion on their slaves (lol). Black people were stolen mainly from west Africa. Over 90% of them were muslim, yoruba, or had tribal beliefs. The credit for black people's survival and creativity goes to who they have been for thousands of years, not the damn "church"!
Hip-hop as a music was directly inspired by the african inspired, culure of reggae(Kool Herc).
Rap was inspired directly from the african inspired call and response, and melodic story telling form of the African griots(The Last Poets).
The culture and politics of hip-hop was shaped by Afrika Bambata and the Zulu Nation, inspired by what? "the church"? Hell naw! AFRICA!

(gloves coming off)

Look at you giving all the credit to "the church" (perfectly programmed). The church ain't got shit to do with what black people created. If you think it's "the church" bring you ass to a white church. It ain't the church, baby. What ever black people get in they freak it! Make it their own by giving it African spirit.

I don't care how you rap it. When you got a section of people who believe if you don't accept they god you going to hell, you got a problem. And that dumb ass "personal saviour shit" is already keeping peeps away from holy-hop (lol).
Now Dre, his name was Yeshua, call him by his name! But you can't. Because roman pimp's (excuse me greek,as if there's a fuckin' difference) translation won't let you. His name is hebrew, jesus is english, the translation, of the latin translation of the greek translation after you add a J, because there isn't one in the hebrew language. Whew! In others words it's not an actual translation.
Oops!
And don't worry about my race, deal with that Charles Manson looking imposter on the walls of "the church".
You are a slave neo.
Research outside of "the church" and you can be free.
Back to the subject. I like some holy-hop. Ok not some a little. But I'm not going to give wack ass propaganda a pass just beacause it's from "the church". Just like I don't give "conscious rap" a pass.
Shit gotta be true hip-hop. Period.
Fuckin' crusaders.

I got a proverb for ya'.
Africans say "When the christians came we had the land and they had the bible. They taught to us pray with our eyes closed. And when we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bibles!"
long live hip-hop.

(Blast4Me Won that arguement)

Andre Ramone said "No one has ever said or believed that Jesus was a Christian because he didn't worship himself now did he? He was always praying to the father in order to show us what we needed to be doing even though he was God himself manifested in human flesh. Christ was a Christian, are you serious?"

That sounds like some Rick James (RIP)shit on Chappelle's Show (How I look jumping his couch, yeah I jumped on his couch"

How are you going to say Jesus wasn't christian, because he didn't worship himself. Then turn around and say He prayed to God, even though he actually was god. If he prayed to god and he was god, then God damnit he was praying to himself. Whether or not he did it to show you what you should be doing is irrelavant. If what you wrote is true, then Jesus or hayzeus or whatever his name is, was worshiping himself.

Why is it that when people find a contradiction in what they believe, they choose to ignore it.

Oh yeah and I heard religous music from a lot of different religions and the rappers made be talented, but the subject matter gets boring, because its about the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again. How long can you stay in Church, before you want leave, cause you're bored

(hatestheradio)- There is no contradiction in God, only man, no one is perfect. (Blast4Me)- U sound like u do the knowlege on things and seem to be inclined in the natural. But u know that God is a supernatural Almighty spiritual being. It ain't about "the church" and what a "christian" is. It's about God the Father and Yeshua Christ the Son of God manifested as the son of man.
The sound of hip hop obviously derives from Africa. And your right, a true follower of Christ (Yeshua/ Jesus)does not condemn others and their faith. But take away the lables, cliches and "church" propaganda and the fact still stands that there are some spitters that deserve proper shine (and they will) that rep God.
.... good music iz good music... and hatin' will always be a sickness.
This is some sibling rivelry mess... Daddy loves u. Selah.

"Daddy loves u.".... as in God loves u. Keep seeking the truth ya'll. And if u don't care then don't speak on it.

I gotta add one more thing (off subject). If God almighty came to you in all is power and glory and asked you why you have not believed his Son what u gonna say?... "But them christians (lable) be actin like.."..or.. "them churches be"..or.."white people painted Jesus (Christ)white"..or.."Jesus is an an english translation of Yeshua!"..or.."I'm African though God!..". Strip down lables, race and religion and seek God. Just don't spit in the face of his last hand of mercy upon us.
Even the Quran speaks of a virgins birth of a son. Connect the dots through the knowlege we're provided and use wisdom ya'll, not hate. U can't find the truth in religion, only in his word. Lets stop making excuses for being lazy in the spirit.

..Oh and Holy Hip Hop is just a labling some use. Think outside the box.

Where do yall get that from that Jesus is God? Do yall need to open yall Bibles...? I agree with almost everything a lot of yall are saying about holy hip hop but Jesus is NOT God nor was he praying to himself. Go to Psalms 83:18 and no Im not a church-goer but I did find this scripture.

Yet again, there you go just straight up making things up. HIP HOP CAME FROM FUNK MUSIC. Yes Kool Hurc was Caribbean and that influence was there just as breakin came from Copoera but the music, itself literally were breaks from Funk records which was spawned from Soul and R&B. As for call & response, now you know Cab Calloway was a lot more recent than some old African music but your reaching further back to totally bypass the Jazz era which was directly influenced by our musical tradition in the church. When you hear me talking about "The Church" I mean the culture therein that we as a people created. All of our culture goes back to the church and you can be a revisionist historian all you want but you can't deny that with fact. Our struggle in the US has been so unique and without it, regardless of our African heritage we could not have created it. Our culture is not African, it is African American and it is the most influential culture in the history of mankind, we are the most unique people this world has ever known during modern times and it all stems back to the church and the field (cotton, tobacco) for us.

Gloves coming off? Dog it is so sad that you believe the propaganda about Christianity being a "white" religion and I can see the underlying racism in your views. That's what's it's about for you, worshiping a white Jesus isn't it? Well I personally worship a sufardic Jewish Jesus. Oh sorry sufardic refers to Jews from the middle east (got to explain to the over zealous). As far as Africa is concerned I agree that West Africa was not Christian prior to being captured as slaves but Africa itself was the second continent that Christianity spread to. Far before Europe believed in Jesus (and I do call him Jesus, I'm not one for technicalities) the Ethiopians were praising the true savior and not because anyone forced them to but you don't want to hear about that. You want to hear about the slaves that were given Christianity to keep them in line and you want that to be the only relationship between the African people and Christianity but that is just not the case.

Getting back to the music, I've always had a problem with people saying they don't like Gospel or "Holy" Hip Hop but they'll listen to an album degrading woman in a second. You need to get your priorities straight. You should have nothing but respect for the individual who took the road less traveled and decided to dedicate their music to God regardless of whether you agree with their message or not. It takes a special type of person to pass on the opportunity for wealth and fame to try to reach people. So hats off to T-Bone or J Moss cuz guess what, they are the people who deserve the good life but we as a society feel 50 cent better deserves that. Very sad!

To some things up, I have to address "hatestheradio" who has called me out on here for saying that Christ was not a Christian. Homey first of all you can think "Blast" won all you want but for me this isn't a competition. I actually believe what I'm saying and want to express it "win" or "loose". What I was explaining was my opinion on the matter. There very well may be Christians who would say that Christ himself was a Christian I just personally don't see it that way. Christ is and was God according to John 1:1 so one could argue that when Christ prayed he prayed to the Father and him and the Father are one so he was praying to himself. I think it's more complex than that and granted I can't make you understand complex theology in a few sentences here on a blog but I would urge you to study it since there seems to be an interest on your part. However, there are 3 "persons" in the Godhead or Trinity and in that respect, Father Son and Holy Spirit are separate. If Christ were here on earth praying in front of everyone to himself, what would that teach us? Christ lead by example and showed us how to live (which was point in my other post) and he was not trying to show us how to pray to ourselves. So he prayed to the father but told us very clearly that before we could come to the Father we must first go through him. I don't know if I did the best job explaining it but you should pretty much get the point.

Last but not least "Blast", the credit for our culture doesn't go to the church my friend. The credit goes to God and the tool he used was the church. Our music and culture are two factors that in part helped is through our tumultuous history in the US. There are a lot of documentaries out there that you could get that will show you the relationship between African American culture and the church and in my years as a cross cultural studies major I always found this to be true. If you need some books to read or programs to watch I can give you some recommendations. If I were you I'd start out with Ken Burns' Jazz first, it's awesome. That's it for now fam, holler back.

"Blast", One thing I forgot to mention. When I was a young MC. My homies and I would get together and freestyle like real MCs do. Anyhow we would rap about whatever was around us and I even remember rapping about a garden hose one time. Hip Hop music is Not all about topic, it's about perspective. Everyone has a voice in Hip Hop and are free to tell their story which is one of the most beautiful aspects of it. I know not every record that is Rap is Hip Hop, "Blast" you're preaching to the choir on the one. Remember when Ice T came out (probably not)? He was rapping about things that people never rapped about but it was still Hip Hop music and Ice-T is was of the truest heads out (until he went too much into the pimp stuff). Early on, the music he made was Hip Hop and it wasn't until NWA came that there became a difference between Gangster Rap and Hip Hop and it was all about the perspective. They weren't just telling their story, they were glorifying misogyny, materialism and violence which is not at all Hip Hop and that's the difference.

God is an almighty God,all seeing and all knowing God, who works through the supernatural, his ways are not out ways, neither his thoughts our thoughts Isaiah:56:8-10, so to say that, you will never get an understanding of who he is as well as is word if you have not entered into a proper relation with him, how do you get to know anybody else, through relating with them. He is the word, he just uses flesh to manifest it.John 1:1-3. I don't fully know the story behind the derivative's of the hip-hop culture, but the bottom line is God created the people, he inturn allowed people to be skilled with all manners of workmanship Exodus30:3, this speak of what he gave that man, but he gives to each one as he Wills. As far as not using the name Yeshua, everybody can't relate to that, so sometimes its best to speak to people from where they can relate, but not changing the message, just using other words. If you go to the book of Exodus you will find God manifesting himself to Moses as the Father, and when Jesus step on the scene, he manifested himself through flesh as the son, through a son, remember God is spirit, a spirit cannot operate on the earth without flesh. When Jesus prayed to the Father, he in fact was praying to the Father, of whom he got his direct orders from, God is the God-head to us all including Jesus, he although knowing his distinction of God and himself knows that God is the Head and gave reverence to him for those reasons.
When Jesus died and Resurrected, he spoke to his disciples to advise them that he will send a comforter etc. but he cannot come unless he goes, that comforter is the Holy Spirit. Those are what is called your trinities. Gave gave us all a spirit, of which are many spirits, his being of one, while satan(the devil) has many, that's how he was created, to manifest as legions(meaning many) however, God having all power, even has control over the many, with he himself being as one (spirit that is) Get pass the misconception of the Church being a building, it's not, when god speaks of coming back for a church, you think he's coming back for a building,(gain commsense) which actually is wisdom. The church is the body(people), with him being the head of that church. It's true there were no J's in the Hebrew alaphabet's, but remember many of us are not Hebrew, were Englishman, so therefore things have to broken down to fit the english language, don't get so caught up in all the technicalities(head knowledge) that really doesn't have anything to do with the message of the word. Anybody can gather some common knowledge, but without commonsense(wisdom from God) what do you really have. Common knowledge won't save your soul, only God can.

To Earth: only man created religion, this thing with God is not about your religion it's about your relationship with him, however, you have to be in the proper setting to get the proper teaching of his word, all religions have their flaws as well as they all serve a purpose to fulfill his word, the best that I can tell you is to seek God in what he would have you to do. Man plans his way in his heart, but Gods purpose will stand, that in Proverbs not sure where, look it up using key words. So, the bottom-line is none of us come to know our purpose until we come into relationship with God according to his word, if you not doing it according to his word, then you know that somethings off course, but some of us will be off course, so that his word may be fulfilled, just make sure it's not you.

listen fawks, Jesus himself wasn't no christian, he also confronted the ways o his native religion judaism, so in a sense he was juss spiritual preacher and teacher. so were many of prophets in different parts of the world, they ain't belong to any statutionalized religion and very often were hounded
so i can agree with the author that those dudes can apply in the category holy or betta spiritual hip hop artists, in the sense that there's a preaching element in they art.
Holyness shouldn't have nuthn to do wit Christianity, but if the authors o these awards equate those 2 things... well they wrong, what can u say

HOLINESS, is a posture, a way of being, a lifestyle and if your not owning up to that then your not being HOLY. GOD himself is HOLY, he knew no SIN(being without) he just bore ours through his son. Christian, was a name given to Jesus follower's, Jesus being the Christ, Christian being derived from Christ-like, thereby his followers were called Christians. God calls preacher into the office, and everybody's not called to be a preacher and if you think that just because you can spit the word that you are one then that is called Covetousness. Look at me I only thought I would add 2cents and I'm turning a dollar out of 2cents. I have no problem with anyone speaking of God/Jesus or whatever name folk may call him, what's all important is that people are acknowledging him. I can really talk about this subject all day as I love talking about him.

SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT 50 CENT YOU DONT NEED TO RIDE HIS DICK ON EVERY GOD DAMNED BLOG!

anyway,on a calmer note,in my opinion the best spiritual MC is none other than the Dark Man X.hes got amazing songs about God,such as ready to meet him,the convo,angel,his prayers,etc.kayne has a few somewhat decent songs,but i hate his other bullshit like gold digger.

and on another note, instead of listening to so many mainstream artists,try underground shit like MF Doom,hes fuckin sick.
peace!

DNA, are you hallucinating, please get 50 cent off your brain, I'm surprised you even commented on this one, cause it seems like everytime you obviously hear or see the word cents you think someone is referring to 50 cents, if your talking to me I said 2 as in the number TWO and CENTS get back at me if you can't understand that.

im sorry to say but holy hip hop just dont work for me. i mean...i love gospel music and i respect rappers tryna make music wit a Godly message but dag. it all comes out soundin corny to me. the message of course aint corny but the way its put together dont be workin. not tryin to make generalizations or nothin but i have yet to find a good Christian rapper.

Yo PoeticMiss...I ain't sure as to what kinda hip hop you really into. You feelin the dirty south, east...west..midwest..what you like? You name it, I'll let you know two holy hip hop artists that'll blow the lid off the main stream. For one...there's this cat called "Japhia Life" out of Philly. I know somebody on this blog once said myspace was corny, but I don't care. Go there..search for that cat. One more...just off the top, dude's name is "Knine". But first...you gotta check my homey BeatStylist out in Oakland His link is actually the link to my name on my post here. I've tried to link up alot of these artists on to my post, but SOHH stops the post.

You will be blessed by checking any of them cats. Everybody on this post reppin the truth, the one and only Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ...BE BLESSED. You doin God's work. And we know that Ephesians 6: verse 2 tells us "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."

I stand strong with ya. We know the truth..we are tasked to spread the truth.

Hatestheradio...the winner has already been declared. Wonderin who? Let me tell you a little bit more bout my saviour Jesus.

PZ

"The winner has already been declared" What the hell does that mean. Do you say that or think that everytime somebody calls themselves a winner or says somebody else won. A lot of you say shit, cause I guess it sounds good in your head. Ramone said he can't explain the whole theology in a few sentences on this post, but he couldn't explain it, if he had a few thousands sentences in a book, cause the shit doesn't make sense. You say that you believe God is one, yet you say that you believe he is 3, too. No matter what you say, you can not explain that clearly. Please nobody waste your time trying, cause I was just pointing out the contradictory shit that dude was writing and here's some more. Somebody wrote that God is all powerfull, and in the next couple sentences said that God is a spirit, which is something that can't operate on earth without flesh and that's why he came as Jesus. How you gonna give God limits on what he can do? Do you really believe he is all powerfull or don't you? As a matter of fact, while I'm posing that question, I should go ahead ask why God would need 3 forms anyway and why he had to die in order to leave this world? (somebody wrote on here that God HAD to die, in order to come back) Why couldn't he just leave when he felt like it? I believe that God says "Be" and it is. Period, end of story. A lot of you people equate too many human like qualities to him. Do you Believe God is Perfect or don't you? And if you don't believe he perfect, than why worship him?

Oh yeah and to help dude get an answer to his question. I don't think that Christians believe that anyone of other "faiths" will make it into heaven (Correct me if I'm wrong). But there are a lot of "religions" that state that they are the one true religon, yet one does not have to be of that particular religion, in order to go heaven. For example, Islam is one of those religions that I just described. Make sure that the good that you do in this world outweighs the bad and you should be fine. Also, I believe that one must not give God any peers, in order to get into heaven. Oh and I was reading something up above and I notice that most of you give The Devil to much credit and power. Aside from that I ask, Do Christians believe that God created the Devil? (That question is not retorical, by the way)

"Hates the radio" All I was doing was pointing out that the complex theology is over your head but I was trying to say it in a nice way. I'm not even going to attempt anymore to explain it to you for one, you are on this blog just to argue and discussing God or Theology solely for sake of argument it wrong. Two, you lack knowledge of the Bible and you are turning your ignorance and lack of capicity for understanding into, "Well since I can't understand it, it must be a contradiction". No brother (or Sister) it's just you dogg. But that's ok, God loves you anyway:)

Yo Hates...the winner is Jesus. That battle was one when He died on the cross for our sins. Check out what the Word says on it. This is when the battle was won;

ROMANS 5:

12Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned— 13for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law. 14Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
15But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! 16Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification. 17For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.

18Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men. 19For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

Satan himself even tempted Jesus by misusing the Word, so any attempts to use the Word to contradict God is nothing new. Just him using people as foolish instruments to try to accomplish what he couldn't on his own. Ha! And by doing that...He's also accomplishing his main goal, preventing you from accepting by faith the saving power of believing in Jesus (who He is, why He came, and what He accomplished).

And yes, we do give Satan great credit for his cunningness and his abilities. By not doing so, we would be in great danger and definetly open to receive these such attacks on our faith. He was infact a powerful angel before being cast down.

As Andre pointed out, you appear to be here simply to argue what we accept as fact, and that is wrong. And God gives us clear guidance on what we are to do in these cases.

Matthew 7:6
"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.

We've done our part, the seed of truth has been planted. YOUR eternity is set in what direction you take upon these truths falling upon your ears.

God wants you to do what TI wants you to do homey. "BE EASY". Don't complicate it so much dog. Faith is just that faith. And I tell you what...it takes more faith for any person to believe there is no God, and that we were just kinda happened. Some rocks just bumped heads, and then a cazzillion trillion years later...we have evolved into what we are today. Come on dog...you think Halle Berry just happened??? Man..I wish I had your faith!!! lol How bout a watermelon? You think them things just kinda popped up out the earth...as good as they are. And then a seed drops from it, and another grows. And all this just kinda happened in the beginning cuz some rocks bumped heads. That's ludicrous. Just walk outside, look up in the air...look at the stars. The heavens and skies speak God's power simply by you lookin up. There ain't no such thing as an honest atheist homey. You think about these things, and you ask yourself...what if what they are saying is true? Then ask yourself, do the things I believe now really make any more sense than what they believe? And then ask yourself, what if they're right and I'm wrong? And then hear this homeboy....WE are right, and YOU ARE WRONG. And the consequence of your stubborness is that you gonna be in a hot hot place when your life actually begins (thats eternity I'm speaking of). And we are gonna be homefree. Your soul is at stake.

God Bless, in Jesus name!
PZ

HATES THE RADIO: I understand what ANDRE RAMONE, was saying, basicilly this is not the platform to address all the inconsistencies, concerns or misconceptions you may have with the word, so people try to explain with what there given to work with. You have to get in the proper place to be taught and hear the word daily to get a better understanding day by day of what the good book is saying.

If you read the book of Genesis you will find that God gave man dominion over the earth(Genesis 1:27-31) Satan was de-throwned(so to speak)and his 1/3 followers with him for which he was also given authority and dominion in the earth. God is not a man that he should lie(Numbers 23:19) so unlike man he cannot go back on his word, So you asked how does he enter the earth? well thanks for asking. When we pray we allow God access into the earth, mind you he's God he can do what he wants to do, except lie. Everytime an individual prays to the one and only true God that allows him access in the earth to work according to his Will, keep in mind his ways nor thoughts being unlike ours, so therefore his works won't add up to what we expect, but will bring about the proper results. Don't get caught-up in God is three people, like he has some split personality syndrome. He made himself to be manifested in three different ways on the earth, he's God he can do that, remember he's a spirit and not like ordinary man.

One of the things about God that makes him perfect is because he was without sin period. And when you speak of winners God can never loose out on anything that he has spoken, because it's his STORY in the first place and if you wrote a book where you are the victor and not the villian, who comes out on top? You can't really question God about what he does, how he does it, or why he didn't do, you can only have faith and beleive that he can or could have if he chose to. Don't expect God to spoil you and give you everything that you want and how you want it, he's not to played nor played with. He chastens his own when they are wrong, and you know some of us are very very hard-headed, so don't expect to get certain things from him when you can't even do ONE thing that he's requested of you to do.

And hear PZ, he speaking of truth.

no, hip-hop will never be taken seriously as music. only seriously as in a art form. I had a white woman who was a music major describe in professinal ways on why the world will never except hip-hop ass music or at least current hip-hop. I can't remember exactly what she said but it made alot of sense. I do remember her phrase "Rap is not music but it is a art form"

well The Black Truth i aint tryna bash u or nothin like that but whatever that white woman music major said dont matter. first off--rap and hip hop are not one and the same so dont get that mixed up. second--if you are speakin of "rap" as simply sayin the word then no, its not music. however, "rap" as a description for the words and the background beat IS music. that lady can throw whatever overthought, needlessly educated analysis on it and the fact still remains that rap is, indeed, music. PERIOD. To strip such vital parts of the black culture of their title as music is simply insane.

I am glad that we got people the Lord is touchin round these parts! I'm not really into church like how I used to be, so I'm not going to make this too long.
Okay,
I myself don't think anything is wrong with holy hiphop(didnt know it had a name), or with them beefing with the regular. Its all in hiphop to have beef or to make your case, its part of the culture. I WILL SAY that the dudes in holyhiphop dont have a sound, I think kuz they want to sound different. But in order to reach the masses you have to do what you have to do. It still probably wont work. I remember rundmc had this christian rap group, and they just fell off the earth. So in addition to having to have more acceptable beats, you do have to spit. I mean if people can play STOMP in the club, IN THE CLUB anything is possible. But I don't think they want to get it that way. I went to a church, and nowhere did they say we couldnt use a beat off the street. I really think they should look for a Kanye type of style to say whatever they trying to say.

But then again, too many religions make for a point of view everybody don't wanna deal with either. My religion is different from my wifes. In her church you can keep asking for forgiveness for everything. Over and over again. My church is like this, if you want forgiveness for something, then you have to stop doing it. If you trying to stop drinking, but drink every weekend and pray on Sunday---nah, that aint gone work. But thats what I'm saying, so many views you really have to keep your personal or specific religious views suppressed. Maybe they cant and thats why it hasn't blown up either.

And Andre Ramone, you make some good points. However, before the "church" ever got involved man, there were african spirituals. So I had to go with Blast on that one. Even in the bible, Jesus wasn't until the new testament, the whole old testament God only dealt with what God told people to write. It never really spoke on these Africans and what they were doing. Same with the pharoahs. You know almost nothing about stuff like King TUT or stuff like that. You knew about certain situations, but not the whole world man. I do agree that maybe Blast over looked the American influence. But in order to acknowledge that, you have acknowledge the African history BEFORE ANYTHING. We always had music. They were even singing in the slave ships coming over here. Music has been in us before everything that has ever happened to us. So I can't credit no church, kuz we always have had that drum in our souls. Just my opinion.

For poeticmiss, you were asking about a good hiphopholy group, I remember A-1 SWIFT had a song called "Praise God" that was the HEAT back in the day.

What's up schematics, I feel where you are comming from but let me clerify my position once and for all, I know all about Africa and our history. I've even traced back my ancestry to the Congo where my great great(too many greats to mention) Grandmother was stolen in the early 19th century when she was 17. So I understand all that. When I'm talking about the church's influence, I'm specifically talking about the sound. Before we came to the US we had plenty of music but it was African music. Once we came here we created our own unique form of expression that came out of our struggle and pain and our place to express it was first the field (cotton, tobacco) and then the church. The church is the origin of what we know to be soul music which decends directly from the "Negro Spiritual" and out of that came The Blues, then Jazz, then R&B, then Soul, Then Rock & Roll, then Funk (various styles) and finally Hip Hop. I would earge anyone who reads this to research the evolution of the music. I ultimately want us Afican Americans to have full credit for our culture because it is not African. I'm sorry it's our own. Don't forget that it was against the law for us to practice our African culture during slavery so guess what! We created a new one and as much as some Africans hate on us (and I've known plenty who do) I'll be damned if I attribute our unique expression soley to them. The influence is there, no doubt but our beatiful culture comes out of our not so beatiful struggle.

to PoeticMiss

say what u want, but reguardless of your opinion the the music world still does not and will not fully give rap its true respect. And yes i do know the differance between hip-hop and rap because its apart of it. i didn't type what i meant. Rap is an art form and it won't get respect. You thing the grammy awards are really important, or vibe awards? Or do you thing the world really cares about B.E.T awards? thats a joke! All of these awards don't reflect real talent only MONEY. Those award shows are based off of record sales than talent. yes, their are talented people that get awards too. but the same non-talented and talent people are getting awards! thats strange. DL4 can get as many awards as say.....mariah carey! Why? are they as talented. In a comparion of GOD-GIVEN talent. Mariah Carey is on a supreme level then DL4. and shes R&B. but lafty taffy had the club jumping so they get the same awards as her? What sense does that make? Just because a artist sells a million copies doesn't mean that their really good. remeber Milli Vanilli???? What about Vanilla Ice??? So as far as kids online trying to debate that certain rappers sell more so that makes them the better artist is bullshit. So people say they most talented people are broke and underground while the non-talented are racking in millions.

Sorry kinda got off subject, the only reason why rap seems to be growing is because of the money it brings in. But on a professional level of music "Rap" won't doesn't cut it. Its like acid rock, or heavy metal, they don't get serious respect either, on for business reasons. Rap and Rock is a artform that to many real musical guniesses, is rebellous-youngster art. Don't get it twisted rap in the beginning started to change all that. but when gangsta rap came out, it over shadowed normal rap and thus set in a hard-to-shake image that all rap is negative. When most people think of rap, they think of depression,murder,drugs,gangs,rape,etc. young-delinkwent art. They will never play gangsta rap in a respectable bank,or any government building. SAme as hard-core rock. Even Jay-Z protested some awards because he knows they don't really care about rap music when tho they were handing out awards.

Think about the corprate men and women that really run the industry, not beatmakers or rappers. They could careless if the music they support is degreading and violent. they just want the money. All these rapper think that the world really cares for the ghetto. Nobody fucking cares!!!! Rappers often say that their trying to be a voive for the hood, they trying to let the world know how life is in the hood, "aww we got it so bad". The world does care about american hoods because 7 times outta 10 their living in a 3rd world country, that whole country is a hood. I believe people eventually get tired of listening to rap as they get older and more mature. my mother was in her early 20s when rap was blown up. she was dancing in the clubs to the shit but know she doesn't listen to it anymore, she say something like, "It's unmature-kids music" or " they talks about problems but never gives real answers"

Most rap records are brought by white kids or white kids overseas. you hear that all the time. They listen to rap as entertainment but eventually grow up and make something of theirselves but we laugh at white kids that listen to rap songs bumpin in their cars. Those white kids bumpin' rap music are probabbly on their way to work of a large coperation making 50K or higher while we laughing at them driving to McDonalds, not to eat but to work. but we still laughing.

I had a Commanding Officer who was a old white guy who listens to gangsta rap but he would never play it in the office, only at home maybe or in his car, ( Thats how we founded out) gangsta rap has no place in the professional world....just the ghetto. It will never be respected because of its content. You'll never here a president say " We gon' to tha middle- e-zee ta break dem foolz off fo' dierespectin' our set and blowin' up our buildingz'n shit"

Rap is in the same catergory as Rock...Young-rebellious-anti-society-expressionism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just want to say that it's really an awesome thing how God orchestrates and does what he do. I am riding on some borrowed time on this internet, and I do mean borrowed, for which I know God gave me. I have gotten shut down just before this topic was posted, I have been on here for a minute(not that long). I know it was nobody but the devil trying to keep God's wisdom and knowledge atleast from coming out of my mouth, God has shown and given me much insight into his word, for which I had and still am going through some stuff, because the enemy will do anything he can to try and stop folk from gaining truth.

Although this subject is Holy Hip-Hop, it was used as a platform to spark other areas, take it for what it's worth, somebody's being blessed right now, even those who may be rejecting some of what's been said. If it's not being received now he'll bring it back it your remembrance at a later date.

Take it for what it's worth and not that anyone individual is trying to push there own views. None of us exists on our own doing, and the work is not ours to begin with. I personally do noting in and of myself because I know if it had not been for the Lord who is on my side, there go I. Someone said how can you put God in a box? the answer is you can't nor can he be suppressed as someone else has said, his Word which is his Will shall go forth on the MOUNTAIN TOPS and in the VALLEYS below, he has his messengers everywhere. WORD

Carry on with the Holy Hip Hop!

That's what's up GetKnowledge!

And yo..for real everybody readin this commenting this and commentin that on why holy hip hop ain't tight, or won't work, and this and that...I'm serious to you. Check out my myspace page at www.myspace.com/drewpz and check any of them cats music out. Do it for ya own good...and you'll see..it's just that simple..it's all flame!

God Bless!
PZ

"Faith is what you make it. Thats the hardest shit since MC Ren" -Aquemini- Andre 3000

The thing about todays christain is that they lack the ability to connect with the people that they are suppose to be trying to save. If I go to the club drink a beer dance and go home am I commiting a sin. If I go to church put on a 1000 armani suit gawk at every sister in the church married or not even take liberty upon myself to squeeze some cheeks when have i done the most damaged. I try to get my christan cousin to listen to songs like tupac when a man is honestly decribing his pain and she tells me to turn it off before a word is spoken. The truth is the truth wether it comes from man or beast. Christan hip hop wont work for the simple face there are some fake hip hop and fake christains and no one will take time to split them up. There will be more christains in hell for this very reason. We must all remember the church is the group most vigilant in seeing the death of christ. There is nothing hard about being saved its just hard to be a christian

Let me jump back in here for a sec. I agree with you Dare D. that there are alot of church folk who lack the ability to connect with people, but they themselves can't save anybody, that whole decision is between them and God. There are many church folk that are still according to the Bible who would be considered babes, many of which have attended church for um teen years plus. There is a process of growth with Christians, and not all progress and grow at the same time. Remember these are the same people that you meet on the street, they didn't fall out the sky already equipped. God teaches us by way of our trials and tribulations, how to grow and become the mature Christians for which he purposes us to be, that's no easy task, because like I said before, some of us are very very hardheaded.

As far as some still relating and interacting with securlar things, it depends on the individual, some are not strong enough(haven't grown enough) to resist or even be aware of the wiles of the devil. Bad company corruputs good character, if you around certain things long enough you will have a tendency to start participating, none of us are temptation free, which is why we need to grow in our relationship with God that he might equip us with the necessary tools to be aware of as well as handle ourselves when temptation arises. I myself in all that he has equipped me with still has to be careful, God associated himself with sinners, but being equipped enough not to become one himself. We are mortal men/woman, therefore we are not able to fight battles done in the spirit realm, only God can do that. According to God the tares have to grow together with the wheat, consider a garden if you pull up the weeds around the beautiful flowers because you don't know how there connected you can't just pull up the weed without destroying some of the beautiful flowers, God does that at the end. God says a prophet is not without honor, except in his own country and among his own people which would explain why his own received him not. Don't let people come between you and God, they did not make you and neither can they break you, they are just stumbling blocks put in the way, think about it, when is the most critical time that people seek out God in their lives, most times when they are experiencing oppression, rejection, adversities period, and who are these things mostly brought through PEOPLE. IT'S JUST ANOTHER TRICK OF THE ENEMY! Not really sure what was meant by the statement "Faith is what you make it", but consider this hyperthetically if I wanted to make it a box of cherries is that what it is.

I meant to say in my first few lines

"That whole decision is between us and God"

On the note. Hip Hop is a unique gift God created for His glory not man's. This gift (Hip Hop) is suppose to be used to win souls to Christ. I can understand the rap artists out there who may not know Jesus Christ personally or even have had an intimate relationship with Christ. They know of Him. They know He exists, they may even know He's the reason for their being. But the truth is, the hardcore (gangsta) rappers really need to sit down and get in a private place and let God show them their real purpose in this industry. Children and young people alike see these artists as role models. They may say they are not, but they are, no matter how they try not to accept it. These young people look up to these artists who display their hardcore lives on wax with explicit lyrics. There are parents who are concerned about the welfare of their children and how they are exposed to this unique gift that is being abused. We as parents may try to educate them about hip hop, but it still sends out the wrong messages at times. I can only express the hardcore rappers can only rap about what they know which is the streets. But God says differently. He wants to show these hardcore rappers how the gift He gave them can be and is suppose to be used to bring His people, His souls back to Him. Kanya West has a calling on his life in this industry, Common, KRS One, 50 Cents, 2Pac had a calling on His life, Biggie Smalls had one on His life, but look at where gangsta rap left them....... Hip Hop in the secular world is turning into a war zone amongst rappers and our children are copycattin' this life style. We all should be concerned. The Game has a calling on his life, and many more.
Who is willing to turn their deaf ears to Christ and stop making excuses to excuse the murdering tactics the devil use through this unique gift?

maybe you all should get the four part series "the truth behind hip- hop and R&B then see what the truth really is behind all of these artists.

Man understand that Holy hip hop aka CHRISTian rap is about Jesus Christ it is to worshop God and send a Messeng to save peolpe Christain rapper are saved tha have a relaship with God there life is about God im not dissing common and them but there just not Holy hip hop rapper there worldly rappers

Choose this day who you will serve.Hip Hop culture as a whole is Anti God the true living God Jesus the Christ, The one who spoke this universe into existence who cloaked himself in human flesh.Its illogical to even say or think that all religions lead to the same God pure nonsense.Hip Hop in its orgins are pagan,self exhortation, saving yourself, self impowerment please!thats just not cool.Until the spirit of God convicts you of your need for Jesus the law is the school master it shows who we as human beings really are and need a savior.For they lust after darkness rather seek light which is righteousness made right before God in Christ Jesus.God is not out to save Hip Hop, skip Hip Hop Culture in all respect truly,but to save the people who are of that world.Wake up my peeps music is and culture can be idol worship unless submitted to the kingdom agenda of the one and only living God Jesus The Christ. Peace!

8 months later this is still interesting. Although my words were distorted, I still appreciate this blog. It's better for us to sit around blogging about this than who's beefing w/ who. Love.

-Andre Ramone

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A musical about the witches from The Wizard of Oz breaks West End box office records, its producers say...

Social networking site MySpace is to block users from uploading copyrighted music to its pages...

Social networking site MySpace is to block users from uploading copyrighted music to its pages...

A musical about the witches from The Wizard of Oz breaks West End box office records, its producers say...

A musical about the witches from The Wizard of Oz breaks West End box office records, its producers say...

Veteran actor William Franklyn, known for voicing the 1960s Schweppes TV adverts, dies aged 81...

The Rolling Stones postpone a show in the US to allow singer Sir Mick Jagger time to rest his voice...

Veteran game show host Bob Barker is stepping down from hosting The Price is Right after 35 years...

Veteran game show host Bob Barker is stepping down from hosting The Price is Right after 35 years...

Veteran game show host Bob Barker is stepping down from hosting The Price is Right after 35 years...

Madonna says she may adopt another child from abroad following her proposed adoption of a Malawian boy...

Record company EMI sign a deal with the estate of crooner Dean Martin to use the singer's likeness...

A musical about the witches from The Wizard of Oz breaks West End box office records, its producers say...

A musical about the witches from The Wizard of Oz breaks West End box office records, its producers say...

TV host Oprah Winfrey gives audience members $1,000 (£526) each to donate to a charitable cause...

The Rolling Stones cancel a gig in Hawaii and postpone other tour dates as Mick Jagger suffers throat troubles...

The Rolling Stones cancel a gig in Hawaii and postpone other tour dates as Mick Jagger suffers throat troubles...

Pioneering screenwriter Nigel Kneale, best known for the Quatermass TV serials and films, dies aged 84...

Social networking site MySpace is to block users from uploading copyrighted music to its pages...

Alec Baldwin asks for his voice to be removed from an "unfair" documentary about Arnold Schwarzenegger...

London-born rapper Sway is to be honoured at the BET Hip-Hop awards in the US...

London-born rapper Sway is to be honoured at the BET Hip-Hop awards in the US...

William Styron, whose Holocaust novel Sophie's Choice became a film and an opera, has died, aged 81...

Pioneering screenwriter Nigel Kneale, best known for the Quatermass TV serials and films, dies aged 84...

Madonna says she may adopt another child from abroad following her proposed adoption of a Malawian boy...

Singer George Michael lends the piano on which John Lennon wrote Imagine to an anti-war exhibition...

Pioneering screenwriter Nigel Kneale, best known for the Quatermass TV serials and films, dies aged 84...

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Classical singer Russell Watson postpones his forthcoming UK tour after undergoing brain surgery...

The first stage of a £150m investment in regional museums is praised for boosting visitor numbers...

Pioneering screenwriter Nigel Kneale, best known for the Quatermass TV serials and films, dies aged 84...

Pioneering screenwriter Nigel Kneale, best known for the Quatermass TV serials and films, dies aged 84...

Pioneering screenwriter Nigel Kneale, best known for the Quatermass TV serials and films, dies aged 84...

London-born rapper Sway is to be honoured at the BET Hip-Hop awards in the US...

London-born rapper Sway is to be honoured at the BET Hip-Hop awards in the US...

Record company EMI sign a deal with the estate of crooner Dean Martin to use the singer's likeness...

Pioneering screenwriter Nigel Kneale, best known for the Quatermass TV serials and films, dies aged 84...

Pop trio Atomic Kitten will reform to play a concert in support of jailed Liverpool football fan Michael Shields...

Pop trio Atomic Kitten will reform to play a concert in support of jailed Liverpool football fan Michael Shields...

The first stage of a £150m investment in regional museums is praised for boosting visitor numbers...

The first stage of a £150m investment in regional museums is praised for boosting visitor numbers...

Microsoft and Peter Jackson postpone the making of a film based on the Halo video game after backers pull out...

Jonathan Ross is dubbed "risque" by Ofcom but not in breach of rules over an interview with David Cameron...

Pioneering screenwriter Nigel Kneale, best known for the Quatermass TV serials and films, dies aged 84...

Borat creator Sacha Baron Cohen reportedly signs a $42.5m (£22m) film deal starring his character Bruno...

Pop trio Atomic Kitten will reform to play a concert in support of jailed Liverpool football fan Michael Shields...

Pop trio Atomic Kitten will reform to play a concert in support of jailed Liverpool football fan Michael Shields...

Madonna says she may adopt another child from abroad following her proposed adoption of a Malawian boy...

Madonna says she may adopt another child from abroad following her proposed adoption of a Malawian boy...

Record company EMI sign a deal with the estate of crooner Dean Martin to use the singer's likeness...

Jonathan Ross is dubbed "risque" by Ofcom but not in breach of rules over an interview with David Cameron...

Doctor Who takes three prizes at the National Television Awards in a repeat of its success last year...

Record company EMI sign a deal with the estate of crooner Dean Martin to use the singer's likeness...