"New York Hip Hop Has Never Been So Irrelevant"

I recently read an article floating around the internet that had an interesting take on hip hop and the direction in which it's going at the present time. I found this article on several sites which means it has unfortunately found it's way to several readers by now. The writer gives serious props to Atlanta and Houston but gives New York and east coast hip hop a dead smack in the face. Some of the interesting points from this article:

"New York, the birthplace of hip-hop, has never been so irrelevant." the author declared. Then, New York Times music critic Kelefa Sanneh writes, "Now that Southern rappers have so much momentum, hip-hop's ultimate big city is looking more like a small town."

Wow!! Did you hear that NY? This coming from an unbiased writer who has no apparent reason to "hate on east coast" hip hop. The only thing about it is he made the dumbest statement I've heard since Britney Spears' "I'm so thankful, I get to travel to alot of places overseas like Canada and Australia." quote in Time Magazine.

The article does give southern hip hop big props which is definitely due....Thank you very much, Thank you very much! However, I hate when media and others attempt to divide hip hop, we had enough of that in '95 and '96 when we lost the greatest MC's of our era. We're past that stage and we need to call these uneducated, so-called music experts on their misjudgements of hip hop.

Also check out the article's lackluster top ten albums of the year list, there are some noticeabe absentees on this list including Jeezy and Bun B.

Posted by SOHH Southern at January 15, 2006 10:53 AM

Comments

Are you talkin 'bout MrIrreverent?
That shit cost him his job, or sohh I heard

Posted by: ONE at January 17, 2006 12:03 PM

I don't think they were 2 of the greated MC's I think 2pac was the greatest MC. Read before you get mad. Biggie was good he had potential to be great but he only came out with 2.5 cds. biggie duets don't count. 2.5 cds make you the greatest. I like biggie but he didn't have enough cd's to be considered a great. I know yall feel me Im not hatin just statin facts. What do yall think.

Posted by: jus at January 17, 2006 12:12 PM

THIS JUST IN- BIG FASE THE BIGGER BROTHER OF GAME HAS BEEN FOUND WITH HIS WHOLE GRILL ALL MISSING KNOCKED OUT BY ALLEDGELY MEMBERS OF THE REAL BLACK WALL STREET IN COMPTON. CHECKS THE STREETS.

Posted by: mtv news at January 17, 2006 12:12 PM

New York- home of the top selling rapper(50), biggest crew in hip-hop(G-Unit), and the most famous non-white rapper in the world(coin-flip, heads for 50, tails for Jay-Z). So will you other regions please get off our dick before you get knocked up.

Posted by: The Champ at January 17, 2006 12:17 PM

He's definitely one of the best because he was and STILL is one of the MOST RESPECTED. It's all about respect, respect for how he transformed his craft into his own. Just imagine what kind of music these two would be making 10 years after their death. I'll even say that the game would be light years ahead of its current state and there would be no Eminem & G-Unit/Aftermath. Would Dre really fuck with 50 if he had Pac on his roster...why waste his time.

Posted by: Caddy at January 17, 2006 12:19 PM

thats probably the worst top 10 list ive ever seen(besides the carter II, and the b-coming)

Posted by: 3aaa at January 17, 2006 12:21 PM

Ay this might be just me, but I didnt know there was such thing as "2.5 cd's" except for when I broke Biggie Duets in half.
And making only 2 cds might be a good thing, put it this way I would think higher of Eminem if he only came out with his first 2 cds(after that he only had a few good songs) And the same goes to almost every rapper(good rapper that is) that makes his first CD with his heart and then goes commercial

Posted by: Knowledge at January 17, 2006 12:23 PM

Get Off NYC Di*k plz people

Posted by: WhoopyoAss at January 17, 2006 12:35 PM

yeah biggies last cd was not a whole cd only half its basically just like biggie duets. But they was ahead of the game but only 2 real cd's he put out

Posted by: jus at January 17, 2006 12:40 PM

It's because of niggaz like juelz and dipset. They not trying to make good music. they just suck.
Boston got next

Posted by: Aural Essex at January 17, 2006 12:49 PM

It's not about trying to divide hip-hop. Being divided is in a sense what makes hip-hop special. The city and region that you come from gives you your dialect, slang and style. Hip-hop would be like any other genre of music if everyone sounded the same. Now, you have to admit, the writer has a point about New York hip-hop. People can get mad if they want. New York has always had a type of flavor that doesn't go over well with the rest of the country. The type of beats and rhythms are very different. The only East Coast artists to sell multi-platinum units more than once used beats that are not traditionally New York (DMX, Jay-Z, 50 Cent, Biggie etc.) Let me go deeper: think about it. Almost all other Black people in the country besides the East Coast directly have roots from the South. If not your parents, then your grandparents or definitely your great grandparents. So almost all Black people come up in a gospel/blues/soul sort of tradition. In New York on the other hand you have Black people who have Caribbean, Hispanic and other unique ancestries that you don't find outside of that area. So reggae and other forms of music had an influence. Think how many rappers from New York are half (or all) Dominican or Puerto Rican or Cuban etc. (Cam'ron, Fat Joe, Nore, etc.) Now think how many rappers from other areas have that cultural background. Basically none. That's why certain producers and artists that are considered royalty in New York (RZA, DJ Premier, M.O.P.) are considered trash in other places cause people can't move to their sound. It's a different thing. New York needs to stay proud and understand that "real" New York hip-hop will never appeal to the masses, but they need to keep it going and cater to the ones that feel it because there is an audience for it. Just not a multi-platinum one.

Posted by: The Lighter at January 17, 2006 12:53 PM

www.whatthefucksyourproblem.com

I actually tought that was a real website, im so dumb what do you expect from a brother down south we all dumb as fuck down here

Posted by: chevy g. hustle at January 17, 2006 01:17 PM

*****IMPORTANT INFORMATION*********

Mr.Irreverent has not been fired despite his outta-mind statements.
After reading Sohh.com's replies to his blog he went through a long and painful depression. So He contacted me(CEO of Sohh) saying he was breaking down...
"dear gosh what has my life become? My fans hate me, little by little they are starting to realize that I dont know jack about this raps. I dont think they are buying the 'Im black' card any longer...etc, tec...."-Irreverent (born Bradley Goldberg).

So I told him he needed a vacation, breath some fresh air; I recommended New York city for various reasons:
1.- He has never been to a city in his life, let alon New York City.
2.- NY is the capital of hip-hop, and sense he blogs about hiphop he should observe the culture in real life.
3.- He really hasnt had contact with any other minority group besides the jewish community, which he is very proud of.

So Day 3 of this adventurous vacation, Bradley Goldberg(Mr.Irreverent) calls me saying "Im ready", "Ready fot what" I replied. "to go to the hood, and WAIT! WAIT! before you say anything, I bought myself a blade 1 1/2 inch long but its sharp, I ordered it from my laptop". So I said "Brad I cannot stop you".

So this morning I wake up to a phone call. It was the Chief of N.Y.P.D informing me that Mr.Bradley Goldberg II (aka Mr.Irreverent) was attacked by a group of chinese guys in Canal Street after attempting to steal his 'first pair of Timberlands'. Apparently he was stabbed with a 1 1/2 blade. I believe it was his own 'shank' that hurt him. He is in critical condition and let our prayers be with Bradley!
-The good news is we might be in look for a new blogger!

Truly yours,
CEO of SOHH.

Posted by: CEO at January 17, 2006 01:20 PM

Hip hop as a whole right now is garbage. I can't even name a cd that has been worth buying except for Jeezy, Wayne and Beans. As for Pac, think about how many garbage albums he had before he decided to turn into BISHOP. Beef is what he sold not hip-hop. If he was still alive he probably be dead by now. JAY THE GAME NEEDS YOU. DROP SOMETHING.

Posted by: MAC at January 17, 2006 01:26 PM

dog you do need a platnum blogg so i guess sucking of n.y.c. is the best thing for you to do.this has been done by Mr.Irreverent already.but good luck you need some hits son.your shit is weak as hell.

Posted by: bxconnect at January 17, 2006 01:28 PM

I disagree almost all Hip Hop music in general is CRAP right now.Especially local shit and this mainstream pop shit thats going on all over.Niggas are starting to sound like a busted ass Mariah Carey from Juve singing too damn much to 50 cent singing to damn much. To jeezy and his "YEAAAH" to Juelz and his "A". Mike jones and Paul wall sound almost the same minus mikes stutter,hearing problem, and high pitched voice..they got the same rhymes at times. Paul and Slim sound the damn same a lotta times.Mobb Deep well..prodigy is ass right now, Lil Flip, D4L, DFB is ass just as bad as prodigy and mase is. Shit is repetitive and boring now.Hip Hop is just boring right now and just about everybody is trying to do a club joint to make some money and almost ALL sound the damn same now so its just wack.I know I cant be the only one who notices how boring rap music is right now while everythings starting to sound the same....even Lil Jon, Alchemist, Dr. Dre is starting to produce beats that sound exactly fucking alike. Niggas making songs about Camera Phones, being a ho and "Ho you stank take a bath"...What type of shit is going on?

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 17, 2006 01:40 PM

And I dont mean that their beats sound like EACH OTHERS I mean their own beats are sounding like beats they've made in the past...

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 17, 2006 01:42 PM

BX Connect, u a hater quit suckin Mr. Irreverents platinum blog testes.

Posted by: ATTack Em at January 17, 2006 01:54 PM

There are a few factors that caused the South to be extremely popular in opinion, these factors include the fact that Southern Artist work with each other instead of against each other, and more importantly MTV/BET the radio and most labels have chosen to look for new artist primarily from the South.

I think NY is being neglected by the powers that be because NY is home to great rappers with great talent, but these mixtape rappers CANNOT make good records and that's what the Record Business cares about.

If you live in Atlanta like I do, then you know damn good and well if this Snap Music shit was out 5 years ago it would've been something that would've been popular at the Strip Clubs and primarily at the 18 and up Clubs only. The only reason these songs are getting national attention today is cause of the exposure from Pop Stations, MTV/BET, and the record labels . New audiences are just now hearing stuff that we in Atlanta get a taste of every fucking summer by some new act from the Pool Palace. It happens every year some new shit comes out that is incredibly ignant, but at the same time its catchy.

So now that we are in this era where the South is under the microscope by the machine and , you are gonna see some stuff get national attention that otherwise would not have. If this was the early 90's and the current flavor of the month was the South then Kilo, Sammy Sam, Raheim, and Dj Kizzy Rock would be the most popular shit our right now. Could you imagine if "Cocaine" by Kilo was being played nationally????

I don't see MTV/BET and the record labels focusing on the South for too much longer, so if your cousin can rap he better start mailing out his demo's quick cause the Pendulum will eventually swing the other way.

NY had their .com burst in the "Shiny Suit" era. Now they need to recoup take notes and come back.

Posted by: TopShelf77 at January 17, 2006 02:01 PM

So Top Shelf who's next to shine then? I do agree with what u said tho playa

Posted by: Caddy at January 17, 2006 02:04 PM

TO MAC (THE PAC HATER)
Another person who obviously never listened to Pac. First of all are you old enough to comment? His first album dropped in 1991. Now, assuming you are old enough to remember and actually comment. He dropped 2 CDs before his first classic which was "Me Against The World." 2Pacalypse Now and Strictly For My Niggas were not trash but there were "average" at best. The reason being. The beats were not quality. It's also no coincidence that those 2 albums were almost entirely "New York/East Coast style production" which just goes on to support my earlier point (see above). Now I will say that Me Against The World also featured a lot of "New York" production but the beats were simply tighter and he came into his own. (Actually he came into his own right before that on the "Thug Life Volume One" CD but you probably wouldn't know anything about that. Those 2 CDs were 100% beef free. He had no beef until he came out of prison (All Eyez On Me) He was kicking knowledge and actually spitting something that's foreign to hip-hop now (except for Dead Prez, Saigon, Immortal Technique and a couple others) and that's revolutionary hip-hop. Let the record show that NO MC ever made a tight CD without quality production. It's impossible. As for Jay-Z- yeah right. He doesn't have ONE CD that can stand up to Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me or Makavelli. He's average. If Pac and Biggie DIDN'T die, his career would be that of Fabulous - JUST AVERAGE.

Posted by: The Lighter at January 17, 2006 02:08 PM

Can somebody answer this question for me: Why do people act like New York is a region when its just One state?...the West Coast is a coast consisting of more than one state...the south is a region consisting of more than one state. New York is just one state so why do you'll keep refering to New York as if its a whole region? If almost everything hip hop was coming out Atlanta for over 2 decades, the shit would get tired too...Im already tired of it actually.Theres more to the northeast than just New York so why yall keep leaving Virginia,Baltimore,Washington, and shit out because I know Virginia,B-more,Pennsylvania, Washington ect contributed to this hip hop shit too.

Posted by: Question at January 17, 2006 02:10 PM

What happened was, Pac's delivery and beats never changed? Peep Violent & Soulja's Story..the production was always raw becuz I'll put those beats up against anything he ever made. The only think that changed was his mastery of the vocal booth. Check out how many times he stacks his vocals and the different effects and inflections he used. I'll even argue that his lyrical content was just as potent on his first two singles.

Posted by: SKAM at January 17, 2006 02:14 PM

TO MAC (THE PAC HATER)
Another person who obviously never listened to Pac. First of all are you old enough to comment? His first album dropped in 1991. Now, assuming you are old enough to remember and actually comment. He dropped 2 CDs before his first classic which was "Me Against The World." 2Pacalypse Now and Strictly For My Niggas were not trash but there were "average" at best. The reason being. The beats were not quality. It's also no coincidence that those 2 albums were almost entirely "New York/East Coast style production" which just goes on to support my earlier point (see above). Now I will say that Me Against The World also featured a lot of "New York" production but the beats were simply tighter and he came into his own. (Actually he came into his own right before that on the "Thug Life Volume One" CD but you probably wouldn't know anything about that. Those 2 CDs were 100% beef free. He had no beef until he came out of prison (All Eyez On Me) He was kicking knowledge and actually spitting something that's foreign to hip-hop now (except for Dead Prez, Saigon, Immortal Technique and a couple others) and that's revolutionary hip-hop. Let the record show that NO MC ever made a tight CD without quality production. It's impossible. As for Jay-Z- yeah right. He doesn't have ONE CD that can stand up to Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me or Makavelli. He's average. If Pac and Biggie DIDN'T die, his career would be that of Fabulous - JUST AVERAGE.

Posted by: The Lighter at January 17, 2006 02:15 PM

Can somebody answer this question for me: Why do people act like New York is a region when its just One state?...the West Coast is a coast consisting of more than one state...the south is a region consisting of more than one state. New York is just one state so why do you'll keep refering to New York as if its a whole region? If almost everything hip hop was coming out Atlanta for over 2 decades, the shit would get tired too...Im already tired of it actually.Theres more to the northeast than just New York so why yall keep leaving Virginia,Baltimore,Washington, and shit out because I know Virginia,B-more,Pennsylvania, Washington ect contributed to this hip hop shit too.

Posted by: Question at January 17, 2006 02:18 PM

IM TELLING YOU WHO IS GONNA BE NEXT LITTLE BROTHER THEM NIGGAS IS SPITTIN FORREAL EVERYONE LOOKING FOR THAT OLD HIP HOP SHIT TO COME BACK LISTEN TO LITTLE BROTHER THE MINSTREL SHOW THE BEST SHIT TO COME OUT IN 05. FUCK JEEZY. LITTLE BROTHER IS GONNA BE BIG JUST WATCH

Posted by: jus at January 17, 2006 02:19 PM

SKAM. I agree somewhat. Violent was definitely as tight as almost anything else he dropped, especially the production, but how many songs on that CD are of that quality? 3. Maybe 5 tops. From Me Against The World on you can let the CDs ride. I can't let that whole CD ride

Posted by: The Lighter at January 17, 2006 02:20 PM

THATS WHAT THE FUCK IM TALKIN BOUT QUESTION

Posted by: jus at January 17, 2006 02:24 PM

I been tryna figure that out Jus u know cuz on all these blogs its always about new york this and that like New York is supposed to do everything when its just one state and not a region.Then they forget about other states on the northeast and shit like my state VA. I mean really though like I said if Atlanta was makin the most music for almost 2 decades straight it would be the same way and if houston was makin the most hip hop for almost 2 decades I wonder if yall would be saying "Yall tired of hearing slow shit and that they aint relevant as they used to be"...

Posted by: Question at January 17, 2006 02:34 PM

pac is from new york ladies and gentlemen. ATTack Em the real question is why are you on my dick?
jus why do people in the south sleep on little brother? is it because there shit actually makes sense they have good lyrics and production?i dont know but them niggas is nice.

Posted by: bxconnect at January 17, 2006 02:35 PM

all you people that are praisin atl right now are SHEEP, you're wack. Atl has and had some good music, but that doesn't mean that everything outta there is good, the majority of it is wack and extremely lame. Goodie Mob is by far the greatest group to ever come out of the south, they speak realness, go back and listen to soul food album, or still standin and see how they promote positive life and well being, but they also speak on the realness that goes on around them and how people gotta smarten up and get out and get something, then listen to outkast, southernplayalistic, or atliens, thats the good south stuff, fuck off with all this candy paint and grippin grain and shit, its all the same you got johnny two times, or as you people know him Mike Jones, spittin complete wackness repeatin himself over and over again, 16 bars is supposed to be 16 bars not 4 repeated 4 times each. I do enjoy hearin this rubbish in the club but keep it there and dont try to argue that this shit is great because it is not. As far as New York being irrellevent!!! Fuck that, 50 cent is irrellevent because he is just a lame o that pretends to be from the south, go watch the video for react by onyx and check 50 when he didn't mumble like an idiot. anyway im out fuck off
you're all ugly too and d4l is the most unintelligent uneducated rubbish that was ever made!

Posted by: truth at January 17, 2006 02:44 PM

trust me question I feel your pain Im in DC so you know wuzup we gets no luv but thats coming to a hault this year watch. bxconnect thats on point the media feel they can't promote that but if they was smart they would know niggas is feindin for that hiphop shit and they would sell.

Posted by: jus at January 17, 2006 03:00 PM

fuckin laffy taffy niggas singin songs bout candy. fuck them niggas and dfb I aint hatin but them niggas is wack.

Posted by: jus at January 17, 2006 03:02 PM

3rd coast runnin shit!!!!

Posted by: HighLife (da one man gang) at January 17, 2006 03:08 PM

^ wow..what exactly is the 3rd coast "runnin"?

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 17, 2006 03:12 PM

are you people crazy, there is no fuckin way biggie is the greatest rapper of all times, and another thing times change so everybody thats on top was destined to be there you fucking idiots, juvenile has more skills that biggie, stop praising him because he is dead

Posted by: big boi at January 17, 2006 03:29 PM

yeah...whatever....ask them West Coast niggas that had there little 5 year window of opportunity back in the 90's how the game works. It's only a matter of time before somebody come back n slam the door on the garbage music.

Posted by: Yung Juice at January 17, 2006 03:44 PM

I'd like to know why you think that was the dumbest statement you've ever heard. That statement holds much relevancy to the current situation that HipHop is in. Of corse division is definately a bad thing for urban culture, more specificly HipHop, but upon examining HipHop today that statement is very true. Look at the ratio of Southern Rappers in the public eye recieving mass media attention as opposed to East Coast Rappers. That ratio alone proves that that statement is not so far off its mark (SOHH Southern), just very truthfull. I guess if you think it is dumb because of the aftermath it might cause, then it could be very stupid, but still true.

Posted by: Jamma at January 17, 2006 03:44 PM

Juve has more skills than Biggie?? HAHAHAHA. Whats next that the Bird Man is better than Pac? HAHA. Well that made my day....Good evening yall.

Posted by: Question at January 17, 2006 03:46 PM

I'am so sick of hearing this down south laffy taffy bullshit. Everytime I turn the radio on Shot 97 or Powerless 105 they are always playing that straight up down south shit. I remember when they didnt even have to play the bullshit up here (N.Y Brooklyn stand up) Someone need to hurry up and sign Papoosh so he and Busta can bring N.Y music where it needs to be. Fuck all them country bastard and there bullshit songs. Paul Wall is the only one that is straight everyone else sucks. Shit sound the same. Talking about the same shit!!

Posted by: downsouthmusichater at January 17, 2006 03:53 PM

Paul Wall is okay when he wants to be but he still is CRAP...I dont hate down south music its just all sounds the same and gets annoying after a while of hearin the same tempo on ever damn song even on RnB. Almost all them niggas sound alike except the niggas that aint from the south but reppin it cause they live there. I only hear that ignorant shit at night, but other than that I dont hear it on the radio (hot 97 mostly).

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 17, 2006 04:00 PM

There is a difference between division and diversity...---:The Lighter

Posted by: Jamma at January 17, 2006 04:06 PM

LIGHTER.. Jay average. Are you crazy. Average is Pac with a pen in the studio. Skills is Big and Jay in the studio with nothing but a beat. As for production Kiss said it the best. YALL USE BEATS FOR HELP WE HELP THE BEATS!!! Think about that before you speak again.

Posted by: MAC at January 17, 2006 04:06 PM

YEAH RIGHT VA DC MD SUUUUCCCCKKK!!!!!!
NEW YORK IS THE EAST COAST DIPSET 4 LIFE BASTARDS!!!!!

Posted by: HAHAHAHAHAHA at January 17, 2006 04:06 PM

QUESTION - I feel what you're trying to say and if this was Social Studies class and we were studying Geography you would really have a good point. But I'm a hip-hop person-always have been, which means I've heard everything that's come out and made any sort of dent in the game - just like anybody that really listens to rap music can. Now if you can name some people who've come from those other areas and made some noise please do, here's all I can think of from the places that you named. Virginia - The Clipse, Timbaland and Magoo, Missy, Quan (hasn't put out an album). Baltimore - That dude B Rich that had that bullshit George Jefferson sample. D.C. Sorry I can't name one person (and I'm a real hip-hop head, I promise.) Pennsylvania - Of course we all know Philly has made noise with Sigel and that whole movement. But not Pittsburgh or any other part of Pennsylvania. So, at the end of the day we always talk about New York like it's the whole region because that's where everything came from off of that coast PERIOD. If not New York, then Philly. That's it. Can you name some more? On the west coast I could name artists from L.A. Oakland, Vallejo, Sacramento, San Diego so on and so forth. In the South I could name artists from (and you can too!) Atl, Memphis, Houston, Mississippi, Nashville, so on and so forth. In the midwest I could name artists from (and you could too!) Chicago, Cleveland, St. Louis, Detroit and so on. I'm from the Midwest and our region has never been on top yet and there's been way more artists out of the Midwest than the East Coast if you subtract New York. And not just independent. You can name people who have been on majors and have moved units. You just can't do that from the East Coast - except once again, say it with me, New York and then Philly. Who else has made noise on the East Coast nationally?

Posted by: The Lighter at January 17, 2006 04:08 PM

At HAHAHAHAHAHA ayo VA,DC,Maryland do not suck and u lost all credibility with that Lame ass DIPSET 4 LIFE anthem.

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 17, 2006 04:10 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA at HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: HAHA at January 17, 2006 04:15 PM

Jamma,
You're right. There is a difference between division and diversity, but both can exist in the same space. I'd like to know where you are from. I'm from the Midwest and I think we grew up with a unique hip-hop perspective because we couldn't be bias to our region. Hell, we wouldn't have had anything to listen to. In a perfect world, there would be no division, yeah I know that but it is what it is. Look all the way up and down this blog and tell me which is more prevalent, the division or the diversity? That's like people who try to say "America is diverse." True. But it's a lot more divided than it is diverse.

Posted by: The Lighter at January 17, 2006 04:19 PM

TO ALL THE PEOPLE SAYING GET OFF NYC'S DICK LAST I CHECKED 50 WAS THE ONLY 1 MOVING UNITS JAY AINT CAME OUT WITH SHIT SINCE THE BLACK ALBUM ALL THE OTHER RAPPERS CANT EVEN GO PLATINUM I DONT REALLY CARE ABOUT THE SOUTH THEY MAKE GOOD MUSIC BUT IT'S WHATEVER I LISTEN TO ALL KINDS OF MUSIC EVERY 1 SAYS HIP HOP IS DEAD ITS CAUSE DUMB FUCKS TALKING ABOUT MY COAST IS BETTER THEN YOURS FUCK WHAT COAST YOUR FROM AS LONG AS THE MUSIC IS GOOD LISTEN TO IT AND FUCK THE REST

Posted by: FUCK WHAT COAST U FROM at January 17, 2006 04:22 PM

Lighter u make a good point. Real talk I might have to quote you and remember that shit. At FUCK WHAT COAST U FROM: Nobody is dissin each others "coast" in this blog or saying theirs is better and only one person said "get off nyc dick"...but whateva I listen to anything I like no matter where its from too.

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 17, 2006 04:28 PM

New York needs to make a come back. When New York was on top. Lyrics meant something and it made sense. Diffrent trends and everything.Now stuff is all out of control. I blame the radio stations for playing the bullshit 20 times a day!!

Posted by: NYPLEASESAVEHIPHOP at January 17, 2006 04:33 PM

PAC HAD ONE ALBUM THAT WAS GOOD MAKAVELLI THATS IT 2PACNOW STRICKLY FOR MY NIGS ME AGAINST THE WORLD AND THUG LIFE HAD ONE SONG CRADLE TO THE GRAVE ALL EYES ON ME FOR A DOUBLE ALBUM THERE WAS MAYBE 5 GOOD SONGS THATS IT BIGGIE HAD ONE GOOD ALBUM LIFE AFTER DEATH READY TO DIE SUCKED SO WITH JUST 2 GOOD ALBUMS BETWEEN THEM HOW CAN THEY BE THE GREATEST RAP IS NOT OVER OR OLD ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE TOO SAY WHO WAS THE GREATEST OR NOT SO JUST LISTEN TOO THE MUSIC WHEREEVER ITS FROM BECAUSE WHETHER YOU LIKE IT A LOT ALL OF IT IS PUSHING RAP FORWARD

Posted by: SHAMAR FROM M TOWN at January 17, 2006 04:35 PM

hip-hop is dead...i mean yea there's a bunch of rappers out, but that overall feel of it being more than music is gone. you can see striaght throught these cats and see it's all about money, eveything from the south except kast, t.i., luda, and select few others sound the same. back in the day it was about coming out with something different and better than the last hit, now it's like how can i copy this sh1t and make it work for me.

as for popularity, i do blame it on the media, when a place is hot they goldmine it to death, just cuz the south has a lot of acts out right now doesn't mean they're all good, they're just riding the wave

i do wish there was more diversity in hip-hop right now, i think i've only bought 7 rap cd's this year - this is coming from someone who buys everything. right now everyone is a signle, no one has an album worth listening to, you can't listen to people bounceing, snapping, whispering, and yelling for 15 tracks

i hella used to want to work in the music industry to work with hip-hop, but i hate hip-hop right now - i seriously am disillusioned with it ever being about skills again

and btw...all you new yorkers need to stop being so fake, y'all brag on how you kicked 50 out of ny, he's a sellout, gimmick, you hate him and now you want to say he's the biggest, he reps ny...no he don't he's just from there. and from a person whose studied hip hop in an academic setting - the biggest, most recognizable name is snoop

last thing - THE BAY got next bitches!

Posted by: yay area at January 17, 2006 04:37 PM

Lighter I know what you saying and understand now a little, but you will be hearing from those places real soon Im going to leave that short n simple.
HAHAHA stop hatin.I aint even got nothing much to say to that cause you'll see for yourself.

Posted by: Question at January 17, 2006 04:46 PM

Yay Area I agree with you on almost everything, but what does one person from NY saying that about 50 have to do with all of us from NY? That was that persons opinion, not every New Yorker. Its some people from the Bay that think Game is the best rapper ever, but u dont see nobody saying "U California niggas needa stop being so fake cause one minute yall say yall dont like him and the next u do". Snoop most recognizable? I doubt it...I dont know whose the most recognizable though...thats just pure opinion, not a fact. Anyway you on that real shit. At least everybody aint blind and brainwashed.

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 17, 2006 04:47 PM

Im gettin ghost like u Question and yall gonna come up watch. Early.

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 17, 2006 04:50 PM

aiight haha thats whats up 2006.

Posted by: Question at January 17, 2006 05:02 PM

even if this southern garbage is what they play on mtv, bet, or these commercialzed radio stations......thats not reflective of good music..whatsoever! if thats how you decide which music is good then youre a moron, youre lettin some ceo spoon feed you trash and you have no one to blame but yourself. how can people be mentioning a guy like mike jones or the worst ive seen so far lil flip. and you dont talk about fabolous or camron? nyc is hotter than the south, anyone who appreciates tight beatmakin and hot lyrics knows that. new york is the cutting edge for everything in the entire world, not just the U.S. If its clothes, food, style, music. It doesnt matter if the south is popular now...its popular among the ignorant and young. If you need proof, think of how many hip hop classics have come from New York compared to those from the south? I dont know of any cd's that could be considered classic that originated down south. the only respectable rappers are the ones thatve been in the game, ugk,three6mafia, scarface. The Diplomats alone are better than all and any down south rappers. now thats just one group from new york.....ive never heard of rapping without rhyming AAND shitty production, they just cant get it right. Fabolous, dipset, and Jigga ..those are 3 names that should put an end to this "controversey"

Posted by: LJ at January 17, 2006 05:05 PM

ps...if you really wanna know good rap and youre from the south and thats all you know you need to go buy "The Big Picture" by Big L or try some early g-unit mixtapes, or anything by the LOX

Posted by: LJ at January 17, 2006 05:11 PM

Question, I feel you I dont know why they just associate the NY with Eastcoast and leave the rest out, but some of us know what it is.

Posted by: Word at January 17, 2006 05:22 PM

QUESTION - Naw serious, I'm not hatin. I'm glad you said you kinda see my point. What I should have added was, I HOPE some people DO come out of those places. I wonder that myself too sometimes. I'm like it gotta be some people in D.C. or Baltimore (THE WIRE IS THE SHIT!!) and other places that haven't been tapped that's really spittin and just haven't got they chance yet or whatever. So, trust me I'm not hatin. Like I said, I'm from the Midwest and I'm waiting on our region to blow the same way. It's some nice underground dudes that I'm hoping to see shine. We've had some individuals out there but I'm waiting just like you for a whole movement.

Posted by: The Lighter at January 17, 2006 05:24 PM

Whoever wrote that article is ignorant cuz as much as I don't like G-Unit, they are kinda running things as far as comercial rap goes and they are from NY (mainly). If you want to get into underground Hip Hop, Cali has been running it for years. We pretty much got the back pack thang on lock. The south has hits yes but mostly by one hit wonders.

Posted by: Andre Ramone at January 17, 2006 05:36 PM

The only thing the South runs is radio. My 14 yr cousin is forever singing Laffy Taffy cause it's all they play on the radio but when I was 14 all they played was Biggie all day on the radio. Basically NY allowed The South to take over with simple shit. The audience got dumber. All I keep hearing is platinum this, platinum that but y'all don't have any multi-plat cats. All the multi-plat cats are either from NY or they work with NY'ers so for the last time please get off NY's dick before you get knocked up.

Posted by: The Champ at January 17, 2006 06:05 PM

Alright y'all are talkin about what is classic and what isn't and who is good and who isn't, First off to the guy who said biggie and pac were no good, ready to die is one of the greatest albums ever, go back and listen to it again and listen to the LYRICS, so many people seem to forget this important part of hip hop, also life after death is a classic album, born again and duets are both rubbish aside from the occasional banger, as far as pac goes, strictly for my niggas, and me against the world are both great albums, makaveli is also a great album, the rest are all good, not great but good. i dont know if anyone knows this here, but the greatest rapper of all time is GHOSTFACE KILLAH, that guy is amazing, look at the versatility that he has songs like holla, my guitar, childs play, all that i got is you, this guy is the real deal no one else in the game could make a song like my guitar or holla and have it sound so great. If you dont agree, then i really suggest you go listen to the supreme clientelle album, WHICH IS THE GREATEST ALBUM EVER MADE!!!!! and study his shit, check the lyrics, the flow, the attitude, the beats, everything is so original, he always does his own thing and gives a fuck about haters. So big up my man GHOST, he has never made a wack track, everything ever made by this guy is dope. go listen to "i cant go to sleep" off of the "W" album, and check how this guy is so into the song he almost breaks down cryin, this is a real m.c, his music makes sense its not just beats and jibberish. And yall should also check out u.k hip hop and grime, such as kano, jme, jammer, dizzee, wiley, or even canadian hip hop, we got a lot of ill shit here in montreal and my people on the east in halifax is holding it down too. wake up and stop listenin to the radio, the only good radio is howard 100 on serius!!!! straight the fuck up!!!!

Posted by: truth at January 17, 2006 06:08 PM

HEY!!!!!! I don't CARE WHO DOES IT BEST, WHO DID IT IN THE PAST, WHO'S DOING IT PRESENTLY, WHATEVER MAN...... JUST REMEMBER THIS, N.Y. WILL ALWAYS AND FOREVER HAVE THE GOD M.C., HE, JAY-HOVA!!!!! They can never take that dude from us.

Posted by: B-HEEZIE at January 17, 2006 06:37 PM

ALL THESE NI@@AS HATING ON LIL FLIP..
YALLS FAVORITE RAPPER AINT GOT NOTHING ON "UNDERGROUND LEGEND" WE ALL KNOW "LEPRICAN" WAS WORLDWIDE IN THE 90'S.... FREESTYLEKING FOR LIFE....
ANYWAYS... HOW THE SOUTH CAME UP WAS THROUGH LOCAL STUFF AND CATS WOULD BOUNCE OFF EACHOTHER BECAUSE OF HOW DIFFERENT THEY WOULD RAP OR FREESTYLE OR FLOW.... U WANT TO SAY PAUL WALL DOENST HAVE LYRICAL CONTENT??... GO PICK UP "GET YOUR MIND CORRECT" AND LIKE THE CD SAYS.. GET YOUR MIND CORRECT.. I DIDNT WANT TO BRING THIS UP.. BUT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE "EAST" COAST HATING ON OTHER SIDES.. FOR SOME REASON WHEN ANOTHER SIDE STARTS COMING UP.. ALL T HIS TRASH TALK COMES OUT BECAUSE CATS WILL STOP LISTENING TO THEIR OWN RAPPERS AND WANT TO CRITISIZE ANOTHER RAPPER THAT AINT THEIRS... U SMELL ME???? YALL JUST NEED TO RECOGNIZE THE BEST RAPPER/LYRICIST COMES FROM H-TOWN....
CHAMMILIONAIRE... THE TRUTH...

Posted by: MIKE,SW,HTOWN at January 17, 2006 06:41 PM

EVERYONE KNOWZ NYC RUNS THIZ HIP HOP SHIT. THA SOUTH HAS A BOUNCH OF ONE HIT WONDERS EXEPT A FEW RAPPERS AND AND HOUSTON MOTHER#$*&S I CANT UNDERSTAND WUT THEY SAY THEY NEED SUBTITLES.THA GREATEST MC IZ B.I.G. 2PAC AINT GOT SHIT ON HIM. ALL HIS ALBUMS CANT COMPETE WITH "READY TO DIE" ....THATZ SOME REAL TALK NIGGAZ.

Posted by: Shadow at January 17, 2006 06:48 PM

CANADA AIN'T GOT NO HIP HOP DAMN IT

ALL THEY GOT ARE ESKIMOS

COLD DRINKS

AND FROZEN PUSSIES

HARAAAH GIMME ANOTHER BEER SONNY

HMRRRRHHH HHHHHHHHHH

Posted by: President Jimmy Carter at January 17, 2006 07:06 PM

SHADOW.... WHAT THE F*CK U JABBING ABOUT?? BECAUSE YOU CANT UNDERSTAND SLANG FROM A PLACE ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE COUNTRY?????????? DUDE STICK TO YOUR RAPPERS.. BECAUSE AS SOON AS THESE NY CATS LOOK AT THE "OTHER" SIDES.. NOTHING BUT HATE COMES FROM THEM.. LOOK AT YOUR HISTORY.. IT SPEASK FOR ITSELF.. SOUTH IS RUNNING THE GAME RIGHT NOW.. WHAT U GOT??? "THE WISTLE SONG"?? AND THE SIMPLE FACT THAT YOUR HATING ON PAC SHOWS IT.. BIG'S ONE ALBUM WONDER AINT GOT NOTHING ON HALF THE ALBUMS PAC CAME OUT WITH.. NOW THATS F*CKIN REAL TALK

Posted by: MIKE,SW,HTOWN at January 17, 2006 07:10 PM

big boi : I'ma call you out nigga for your stupid fuckin comment re Juvenile bein tighter on the mic than Biggie, Ha, LMAO. I know its your opinion and I respect that but come on now, I'm English and even I realise that Biggie was one of the, if not the best to ever do it. And to the fool who said Ready To Die sucked, for fucks sake nigga, you supposed to be American, you supposed to get that shit. That album had some of the tightest rhymes and flows ever put into a hip-hop album. Granted the beats were'nt great but Biggie on Unbelievable with Premier lacin the beat was a classic. He laid down the vocals for that song in one take straight off the top of his head, no rhyme sheet, no pen, no paper, now that is talent. Name one rapper out now who could do that, there ain't no one. That nigga was intelligent as fuck as well, listen to his lyrics, they may not be speakin on world issues but that does'nt mean Biggie did'nt have the intelligence to speak on that he chose to speak on the everyday struggle that goes on in the hood and he spoke on that by narrating stories. The nigga was a genius, he put out 2 albums and they're still 2 of the best albums ever made, never spat one wack verse, he always delivered, to me that makes him the greatest regardless of how much material he put out. Brixton stand up.

Posted by: EnglandRepresent at January 17, 2006 07:21 PM

yo jimmy carter, i think you should learn a little something about canada before you run your mouth. we have a lot of good music up here, maestro fresh wes used to kill it back in the day, kardinal offishal, wio k, the rascalz, ground squad, northern lights, manic massive, we got a whole new world of hip hop up here that is real, this shit isn't made to make money this is made for the love of hip hop and for the art of music, which gives it much more relevance and importance than the majority of that wack shit that comes out now a days in america. Also i'd like to know what your definition of an eskimo is, and cold drinks and frozen pussies? what the fuck are you talkin about dude? anyway yall should check some of this canadian stuff if you appreciate music, but if your an unintelligent ignoranus like jimmy carter there, than dont bother because they dont rap about grippin grain and changin lanes and candy shops and shit. Feel me!!! what up Brixton hold it down bruv. Montreal in this bitch

Posted by: truth at January 17, 2006 07:47 PM

Dog, Texas rappers sell 100,000 independently while your favorite Ny niggas can't sell 1,000 mixtapes wit a distrubution deal. All you niggas that ain't from the south hating on it, can comment when your region doing sumthin other than a gunit "soildier" or Fat nigga tellin us to lean back.

Posted by: HighLife (da one man gang) at January 17, 2006 07:51 PM

lol its funny how sensitive dudes is these days. yall gettin mad at people's opinions. sometimes i read these blogs to see if just maybe, just maybe, people kickin some real thought provoking shit for me to think about on here and not just arguing (an idealistic judgement error apparently, this is a blog and i realize that this is its purpose - obviously)...i know that half of these blogs are dumb as hell anyways and there are some folks on here that are pretty openminded so im not damning everyone or everything... i just wanted to put this out there, take it or leave it... does anyone on here grasp any of the basic concepts of psychology (not dissin, jes askin), cuz if u do, then u'll prolly understand wut im finna say... many racist people are racist because they grew up in an environment where racism was all they saw and was all they were taught... not all people turn out racist but many people in those situations do.. this would explain why regions vote as they do (i.e. the bible belt).. apply this theory (just a theory now) to hip hop (or anything)... if ur environment (which really boils down to people around u who have lived in that same environment and have been exposed to the same variables as u)plays a role in things u like, such as food, clothing, or lets say, music - then is it wrong to assume that ur region plays a major role in the type of hip hop u like?... basically, if ur a new yorker, born and raised, ull prolly like ny music, the same goes for pretty much every region... there are always exceptions, but generally, thats how things go.... to the people who detest everything about the south music, i cant b mad at u, cuz in the end its ur opinion and no ones goin to change it, so y argue? its like beating a dead horse... and GAY as fuck.... but ask urself, had u been born and raised in say, atlanta, would u like southern music? probably. you'd have friends who did, and u'd be exposed to it all the time, not saying u wouldnt like ny music, but u might like southern music a lil betta... this theory applies to all regions.... jes my opinion... now i feel like a lame for being on here and ive used too much brain energy for the day so im finna go canoodle with some local college ladies....dont bother respondin with an angry message cuz i promise i wont b here to read it. cheerio.

Posted by: KISS MY ASS at January 17, 2006 07:52 PM

The Chump, what da fuck you talkin' bout da south ain't got no multi-plat rappers? outkast, ludacris, and juvenile all went multi. and they all went more than once look it up at riaa.com even lil jon and master p went multi. so shut da fuck up.

Posted by: T-Cool at January 17, 2006 07:53 PM

If you really break it down statistically, the WESTcoast is running things. Who are the biggest selling artists in hip hop now? Em and 50, and whose the powerhouse behind them? You guessed it, Dr. Dre, a Compton native. Case closed.

Posted by: Grimm at January 17, 2006 07:54 PM

AYYYYE TO ALL MY NIGGAS FROM THE SOUTH WHAT IT DO? TO ALL THE BROADS FROM THE EAST PUT CHA BOMBER JACKET ON, LACE UP YA TIMBS AND HOP ON THE TRAIN AND GO LISTEN TO DOS EFX.

WE DON KICKED IN THE DOE WITH THE 4 4 IN BOTH HANDS TAKING OVA SHIT.LOVE THE WAY DEEZ NIGGAS SWING FROM 50'S DICK. YALL GOT 1 NIGGA GOING PLAT WHILE WE GOT PLENTY.TAKE 50 AWAY AND THE LAST NIGGA 2 GO PLAT IS OLD ASS GAY-Z.AND HOW LONG HAS THAT BEEN? LOL LUV THE WAY WE MAKING U NIGGAS SICK.YALL CANT STAND IT.GOT U MOFOS PRAYING 4 OUR DOWNFALL. WE GOT THIS BITCH ON LOCK LIKE A FULL BLOODED GATOR PIT.WE GOT NIGGAS ON THE EAST TALKING BOUT SIPPIN LEAN.GOT NIGGAS ON THE EAST TRYING TO SCREW THEY SHIT.LOL YALL SOME PUSSYS. AHHH SHIT THIS GON BE A GOOD 1.SO TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT PAPOOSE WHOEVER THE HELL HE IS.PUT OUT A ALBUM THAT CAN BE DISTRIBUTED PAST THE BRONX BRIDGE. IF HE EVER NEED A STREET TEAM TO PROMOTE HIS SHIT ALL HE HAVE TO DO IS HIRE U DICK SUCKIN NIGGAS.

U NIGGAS GON MAKE THIS ALOT OF FUN 4 ME.

AYE TEXAS WE DONT HAVE TO STAND UP...WE ALREADY STANDING.

Posted by: TEXXXAS<--THATS WHATS UP! at January 17, 2006 08:26 PM

TEXXXAS<--THATS WHATS UP! very well said.i can tell you are a very intelligent young man who will go a long way in life.
its das efx dick head.you were probably in 1st grade when they dropped.
and how can you be tired of pappoose and never heard his shit.
and its the brooklyn bridge.
i love reading all you ignorant never been off your block niggas comments.classic material.

Posted by: bxconnect at January 17, 2006 08:38 PM

I'm so sick and tired of journalist trying to divide the country with this bullshit and then they use false information to make it worst.

Everybody knows the west hasn't had anyone selling for a while besides Games 1st album and probably his last one to sell but the West is coming back with G-Unit aka G-Unit Crips. Spyder loc has already started releasing songs with dudes under him and Jayo Felony plus others in the West who already sell average albums are signed to G-Unit.

Yes of course the South is dominating the radio waves and is all over tv but it is QUANTITY NOT QUALITY. I'm not knocking southern rappers what I am saying is that basically the south releases a whole bunch of artists and the only ones that sell are Luda, TI, Mike Jones, Paul Wall and even Slim Thug and Chamillionaire who killed mixtapes isn't selling as much as people thought. Every other southern rapper basically sells 100,000-300,000 records each album or goes gold. But like I said there is just so many of them that they flood the market. They aren't dominating statistically.

G-Unit by itself every album they released combined has probably sold 5 times as many albums as the south combined. Kiss album went platinum for the 1st time, DipSet is alwats dependable for gold status or close to it and Fabolous is always good for gold or platinum.

Basically when you take all of that into consideration the south is like the dealer on the block who sells a bunch of product non stop working day and night but making little profit each sale(artist) so he has to work 24/7 but NY is the wholesaler supplying those dealers so they only have to make 1 sale a month to equal what the south makes from working non stop.

No region is doing better than the others but if you base it off air play the south wins by numbers since G-Unit is the only 1 not from there on the radio all day but if you base it off of sales NY wins easily.

Posted by: Real Talk at January 17, 2006 08:55 PM

What up TRUTH, thats the problem with some of these niggas, they so narrow minded and so damn ignorant that they think anything, be it hip-hop or culture outside of they region is wack jus cos it ain't whats familiar to 'em. Niggas need to get paid, travel a bit, see other parts of the world and then y'all can speak on it

Posted by: EnglandRepresent at January 17, 2006 09:28 PM

LOL 4GIVE ME 4 NOT KNOWING HOW TO SPELL DAS EFX. SORRY I DIDNT PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO NIGGAS RAPPING ABOUT THIGH BONES BEING CONNECTED TO HIP BONES(WTF?).

I LEARNED ABOUT PAPPOOSE FROM ALL HIS BROADS PROMOTING HIM ON HERE.

LOL FUNNY HOW U HAD NOTHING TO SAY BOUT
50 BEING THE ONLY1 HOLDING YALL DOWN.I DONT WANT TO HEAR BOUT NOTHING ELSE.WHO THE LAST NIGGA TO GO PLAT BESIDES 50?ANSWER THAT! WE PUT IT IN YA FACE NIGGA.PLAT RAPPERS EVERYWHERE.

IM A OAK CLIFF SURVIVOR

Posted by: TEXXXAS<--THATS WHATS UP! at January 17, 2006 09:47 PM

TEXXXAS<--THATS WHATS UP! : The South doing they thing right now, gettin a lot of money, niggas is blowin up where you at and thats a good thing. Certain rappers are gonna appeal to some people and not to others, personally I don't feel a lot of the Southern joints comin out right now but I think Pap is nice, but UGK is dope as hell and they get love from England. Brixton stand up.

Posted by: EnglandRepresent at January 17, 2006 09:57 PM

SUP ENGLAND


YEA I NEVER HEARD OF HIM AND HE MIGHT BE NICE AND IF I EVER HIM AND HE WAS TIGHT I WOULD ADMIT IT.WHEN THE EAST WAS FUCKING AROUND IN THE 90'S I GAVE THEM THEIR PROPS.DIDNT LIKE THEM BUT I DIDNT DENY THEM.PUFF, BIG, JAY-Z, AND NAS WAS ALL ON THE RADIO AND VIDEOS. SOME OF THE SHIT I LIKED, SOME OF IT I DIDNT. REGARDLESS I WAS SAYING IT BACK THEN "N.Y. RUNNING THE RAP GAME".THE WEST CAME ALONG AND TOOK OVER.I GAVE THEM THEIR PROPS.I ACTUALLY LIKE WEST COAST MUSIC SO IT WASNT NO THANG."THE WEST WAS DOING IT". NOW THAT WE DON KICKED THE DOE IN,THEY WANT TO HATE. U MIGHT NOT LIKE OUR LYRICS,CONTENT,SLANG OR WHATEVER UR REASON MIGHT BE.GIVE US OUR PROPSWE GOING PLAT., WE ON THE RADIO AND VIDEOS. FROM TX, LA, MS, TN, GA, AND FL. WE IN DIS BITCH, BEEN IN DIS BITCH AND DONT PLAN ON SITTING DOWN.

I AGREE WITH U ON UGK. IF I COULD BUY ONLY 1 NEW ALBUM OUT OF EVERYBODY, GIVE ME UGK.

AYE TEXAS WE DONT HAVE TO STAND UP...WE ALREADY STANDING.


Posted by: TEXXXAS<--THATS WHATS UP! at January 17, 2006 10:51 PM

TEXXXAS<--THATS WHATS UP! : Thats it man, UGK is the shit as far as reppin the South, they from Texas too right? There's some other dope artists as well don't get me wrong, Scarface, 8Ball & MJG, Little Brother, I think David Banner is nice, Geto Boys, Luda -Chicken & Beer and Word of Mouth was tight, there's a lot of fire Southern rappers but then there's a shit load of wack ones. But respect where respect is due, ain't noone doin it bigger than the South right now and its all love as far as I'm concerned, I ain't from your country so there ain't no reason to hate on any region. What do you think to the Houston and ATL rappers out like Chamillionaire, Paul Wall, Slim Thug, Lil Flip, TI etc?

Posted by: EnglandRepresent at January 17, 2006 11:00 PM

T-Fool: Shut the fuck up! Juve doesn't count cause that was so long ago, he went multi. Outkast gets a pass cause they're one of the best ever. Your boy Luda fell off so get a grip and please get off my dick before you get pregnant, bitch.

P.S: If you have to claim Lil Jon and P then that right there shows you how fucked up your music is.

Posted by: The Champ at January 17, 2006 11:07 PM

=========The Lighter===========
I'm actually from the southwest, so you're right. I have no bias or claim to a coast. (I also strugle to stay updated in the HipHop world but that is a different story) You're also right about this blog it is full of division as opposed to diversity. At first I dissagreed with you "America is diverse" comparison because I think that there is an abundance of reasons that cause America's division as opposed to HipHop's. But when I realized that some of those factors do actually cause division in HipHop, I saw the accuracy of you statement.

So all in all, good point. And I'm quite impressed at you guess about my native region.

Posted by: Jamma at January 17, 2006 11:29 PM

I HATE WHEN BITCH MADE NIGGA'S BE REPPIN RAP NIGGA'S JUST BECAUSE THEY FROM YOUR SAME STATE. BE REAL FUCKA'S!!! YOUTHINK THEM NIGGA'S REPPIN YOUR HOOD WHEN THEY COUNTIN' PAPER YOU AINT NEVA GONNA SEE?
STOP SUCKING DICK LONG ENOUGH TO TALK REAL SHIT! FUCK WHAT HOOD YOU FROM, WHO IS THE ILLEST?!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BRUTALITY at January 17, 2006 11:39 PM

word! brutality, i hate that shit too! they be acting like they know some negros or something. Jay-Z is the illest, and untill somebody legit bring it, he will forever hold the crown. who out is just fuckin fresh dude? motherfuckers with no lyrical swagger, no style, no technique. it all sounds like the same bullshit to me. everybody want to use the same fucking producers, so their shit ends up sounding the same. Hip-hop needs some freshness.
give that shit some air! give that shit some water... hip-hop is dying for-real!

Posted by: oliand1 at January 17, 2006 11:47 PM

oliand1 : Word nigga, hip-hop needs some freshness you damn straight. Jay is prolly the illest still, just imagine what Biggie would be right now if he did'nt get popped, the nigga would be the ruler of hip-hop hands down, considering Jay bit his flow and he's got the crown. Don't wannna ride Biggie's dick too hard but props where props are due.

Posted by: EnglandRepresent at January 18, 2006 12:05 AM

For All Who don't Know Afrika Bambaataa is Also An Afrikan American of Afrikan West Indian Parents and was the 1st in Hip Hop Known as a culture to 1st play West Indian Music (Carribean Music), when others would not even dare play roots music at Hip Hop Parties. He played Calypso,Reggae,Soca,Latin as well as break beats from the Carribean when all would not touch it until they heard all these jams being play at the Almighty Zulu Nation Jams and this is a fact. And a super large West Indian following especially Jamaicans would come to Bam jams cause they knew they were going to hear Reggae/Soca at his Jams.

Bam made Trinty,General Echo,Big Youth,I-Roy,Yellowman,Eddie Palmari,Ray Berratto, Calpso Rose,Mighty Sparrow,Willie Colon,Mongo Santermaria, Manu Dibango,Fela Kuti and many other Carribean and Afrikan singers known in the Hip Hop World. So to the one who wrote the article respect to you for your research but you should of did more research and thats why we just want to Set The Record Straight.

All The major West Indian Records stores like Moodies,Burland Records, and many of the early Latin Records stores in the Southeast Bronx all knew Bambaataa and knew he had a army of West Indian/Latino followers who was with him. What most do not overstand is that Afrika Bambaataa story is truly a whole seperate True School story,because he was and still is the most independent never had to Kiss no one ass in all of Hip Hop World History. The Most Free person of Hip Hop Culture on the Planet. Most people when they write about Hip Hop as a Culture can never write the truth dealing with Factology until they speak with Afrika Bambaataa and all of the Groups and members of The Almighty Universal Zulu Nation.

Posted by: R-FIGGZ at January 18, 2006 12:00 AM

That is why we have Liars like Mr. Russel Simmons and many others who always want to rewrite our story to make it his story. For any who wish to write a story about Hip Hop from when it was name Hip Hop as a Culture by Afrika Bambaataa and was push as a Culture by The Universal Zulu Nation first and gave all the True names as elements, if your want the True,factual of Hip Hop as a Culture then Your will have to come and speak to Afrika Bambaataa and thosands of True School Zulus from back in the day as well as to speak to The Father Kool Herc ,Grandmaster Flash and all of Afrika Bambaataa 's Black Spades / The Organization True School members like Love Bug Starski, The late Disco King Mario, Tex Dj Hollywood, Kool Dj Dee and Tyrone, The late Keith Cowbow of The Furious Five as well as The original Zulu Kings and Queens but for when Hip Hop was name as a Culture all roots go back Factual to The Universal Zulu Nation and if anyone wants to debate come with your Factology and we will beat you down with your lying BullShit of fake as Truth and this especialy goes out to Mr. BS of all BS Russel Simmons and any one else who loves to keep trying to write about Hip Hop The True School Days Culture and know Jackshit about Hip Hop as a Culture. When you deal with trying to write about Hip Hop or Rap please come and speak with ones who were Truly there, not these fake johnny come lately so called scholars of Hip Hop. Much love and respect to Davey D, Jeff Chang ( The best Hip Hop Book so far Ever that deals with our story and not just his-story) ,Brother Ernie and to all the women of the early days and now who Kept true Hip Hop Culture alive and went through the struggles with the men to make this happen all over the world. To all who deals with Facts and not made of half Truths or false hood Hip Hoppers.


Posted by: R-FIGGZ at January 18, 2006 12:26 AM

That is why we have Liars like Mr. Russel Simmons and many others who always want to rewrite our story to make it his story. For any who wish to write a story about Hip Hop from when it was name Hip Hop as a Culture by Afrika Bambaataa and was push as a Culture by The Universal Zulu Nation first and gave all the True names as elements, if your want the True,factual of Hip Hop as a Culture then Your will have to come and speak to Afrika Bambaataa and thosands of True School Zulus from back in the day as well as to speak to The Father Kool Herc ,Grandmaster Flash and all of Afrika Bambaataa 's Black Spades / The Organization True School members like Love Bug Starski, The late Disco King Mario, Tex Dj Hollywood, Kool Dj Dee and Tyrone, The late Keith Cowbow of The Furious Five as well as The original Zulu Kings and Queens but for when Hip Hop was name as a Culture all roots go back Factual to The Universal Zulu Nation and if anyone wants to debate come with your Factology and we will beat you down with your lying BullShit of fake as Truth and this especialy goes out to Mr. BS of all BS Russel Simmons and any one else who loves to keep trying to write about Hip Hop The True School Days Culture and know Jackshit about Hip Hop as a Culture. When you deal with trying to write about Hip Hop or Rap please come and speak with ones who were Truly there, not these fake johnny come lately so called scholars of Hip Hop. Much love and respect to Davey D, Jeff Chang ( The best Hip Hop Book so far Ever that deals with our story and not just his-story) ,Brother Ernie and to all the women of the early days and now who Kept true Hip Hop Culture alive and went through the struggles with the men to make this happen all over the world. To all who deals with Facts and not made of half Truths or false hood Hip Hoppers.


Posted by: R-FIGGZ at January 18, 2006 12:27 AM

Also a warning to the True School Pioneers, your to stop faking the funk on the Factology of speaking the facts on The True School days of Hip Hop Culture,selling your souls now to just make money and lying about Hip Hop as a culture,to alter it up to please your new masters of deceit. Shame on You

Bring It On
The Universal Zulu Nation

Posted by: R-FIGGZ at January 18, 2006 12:27 AM

The Chump, how da fuck luda luda fell off and his last album went multi you stupid bitch, all luda albums multi stupid bitch. juve last album went plat after he chilled for bout 4yrs. and i just threw p and lil jon in there for the hell of it. you said there are no multi plat rappers in da south i proved yo dumb ass wrong. think next time you stupid bitch!

Posted by: T-Cool at January 18, 2006 12:43 AM

hiphop needs to go read a book

naw but on the real won't it be cool if the artist would publish their ryhmes in book format like: just think:

who wouldn't want to read all the jayz rhymes in book format
or
the 2pac and biggie rhymes in book format that would make for a interesting and fresh way to distribute the poetry and soul of hiphop to the people

hiphop is fine ya'll stop worring man
and just let it grow to become into itself and stop trying to rush it
when all yall really want is somebody to come along thats the next big thing to carry us into the future which right now is: maybe: papoose,saigon,etc..
but them cats sure as hell are taking thier sweet time putting together albums
and all you got in NY is gunit to sell:

gunit is cool but remeber when NY had a least 10 different artist to drop and go platinum all at once... that era in NY moved down south and NY can't seem to own up to the reality of it:

i think its going to be in the south for a few more years then go back east then go back west and back to the south again: or it might shift over seas who knows: all i'm trying to say is that i love hiphop: but sometimes i hate the people that are it: but besides that yall need to just chill and let nature take its course...NY give us our propers! Man! we deserve it! and stop hatin on 50, because he's the holding yall down right now! and yall seem to hate the hell out of him! if that aint backwards than i don't know wtf is!

Posted by: duke at January 18, 2006 02:09 AM

hiphop needs to go read a book

naw but on the real won't it be cool if the artist would publish their ryhmes in book format like: just think:

who wouldn't want to read all the jayz rhymes in book format
or
the 2pac and biggie rhymes in book format that would make for a interesting and fresh way to distribute the poetry and soul of hiphop to the people

hiphop is fine ya'll stop worring man
and just let it grow to become into itself and stop trying to rush it
when all yall really want is somebody to come along thats the next big thing to carry us into the future which right now is: maybe: papoose,saigon,etc..
but them cats sure as hell are taking thier sweet time putting together albums
and all you got in NY is gunit to sell:

gunit is cool but remeber when NY had a least 10 different artist to drop and go platinum all at once... that era in NY moved down south and NY can't seem to own up to the reality of it:

i think its going to be in the south for a few more years then go back east then go back west and back to the south again: or it might shift over seas who knows: all i'm trying to say is that i love hiphop: but sometimes i hate the people that are it: but besides that yall need to just chill and let nature take its course...NY give us our propers! Man! we deserve it! and stop hatin on 50, because he's the holding yall down right now! and yall seem to hate the hell out of him! if that aint backwards than i don't know wtf is!

Posted by: duke at January 18, 2006 02:09 AM

My father is from New York and I dont know much but I know a little bit of stuff and in my opinion and from what I've been reading up, from what I've been told, and what I've heard Hip Hop music, it was the most diverse hip hop music in history. Im not puttin this in order but from the Funk, to the Carribbean shit, to when they mixed shit up, to the days when they had a live band who played instruments instead of just a Djay and some tape playin their beat , from from some songs on break beats, Positive messages and how to help ourselves as black and latino people, fun party songs, DJays mixing, sampling, scratching...it all happened there before anywhere else in America and was really creative and went against the grain. I keep seeing people mention the 90's and if thats all the knowledge you have of hip hop is from the 90's then there aint no point of commenting because those arent the people who fought to make hip hop what it "Was" and they gave us good music in the 90s . Hip Hop music now all sounds the same everytime I turn on the radio or tv, I hear something I thought I heard or seen 5 minutes ago and the girls dont even dance in the videos like they used to. Most of them cant dance to save they life. If that aint the case with the videos then the songs out make blacks and latinos look ignorant,wack and these rappers now are relying on the beat to get them over cause they aint got no skills.If you have to rely on a beat to make u sound good and if people like a rapper just because the beat was hot then these people got the game screwed. YOU should help the beat the beat shouldnt help YOU.

Posted by: Clone B at January 18, 2006 02:12 AM

New York Hip Hop was the most diverse*.I forgot some shit but whatever.I think white people gonna take over rap soon.We got all these people seeing wack shit and hearing it that now everybody think they can rap and it wasnt always like that.Before you HAD to have skills to get credit and get respect.I dont know wtf goin on now.Its gonna be a white take over and Blacks wont matter after a while, but u never know there might be some good white MC's.

Posted by: Clone B at January 18, 2006 02:16 AM

East Coast people name the king of hip-hop according to whoever happens to be hot at the moment (and they MUST be from New York). Take for instance Jay-Z. I'm going to let all those in NY know something. He is not the undisputed king in hip-hop to the rest of us in the country. He is YOUR king. Many of us can't understand why you would elevate such a corny person to royalty anyway.
Well here's my take on Jigga/Hova/Jayz/Jay-Z or whatever the hell he's calling himself today. I was on the East Coast between New York, Jersey, and Massachusetts the entire summer of '96. Everybody thought he was lame as hell with that "Ain't No Nigga" BULLSHIT. That summer most people were listening to "All Eyez on Me", which was released that previous February, and NY's new king for the moment Nas. While Biggie was recording tracks for "Life After Death", Nas was ruling the charts (and "the world" for that matter with Lauryn Hill) with "It Was Written"
More so in New York all you heard being played was Nas, LL Cool J, The Lost Boys, and Junior M.A.F.I.A. that summer of '96. Jay-Z was nobody until Biggie died. NY critics then stripped the "king" title from Nas who they considered too commercial because of LP's such as "Nastradamus" and singles such as "You Owe Me" (Okay, that was the worst song ever behind the stomach sickening track "Oochie Wally"). Funny because the East Coast critics then contradicted themselves by giving "The Blueprint" a "classic" status when all Jay-Z did was put out corny singles such as "IZZO" (biting West Coast Slang) and talk about money and his alcoholic beverage. Because he was getting all this airplay he is the undisputed king even though when West Coast artists were dominating the radio (outside of NY of course) they were nobodies.
He is a rhyme biter more than Puffy ever was a beat biter. The way Bush plays off people's emotions about 9/11, Jay-Z has made a career playing off the emotions and sadness centered around Biggie's death. 30-42% of his rhymes are Biggie's, he has bitten Tupac's rhymes (after being bitched by him on the first track of "Makaveli"), and cannot even freestyle as he admits on number 13 of "The Blueprint" when he talks about "memorizing lines" as an exercise. "Undisputed king" my ass...

Posted by: Southern Perspective at January 18, 2006 07:58 AM

Being a southern hip hop head, I listen to all that is worthy( I'm 31 so I saw the evolution of it). First, not everyone down here likes D4L or Mike Jones.But there used to be a time when it was all about NY & we couldn't get a FAIR listen so when sub par artists blow up we show respect.(In 1993, we were pumping OutKast but the North was on NAS.And BASS Music has had multi gold and Plat but no respect in NYC). I find it odd that some want to clown lyrics about candy paint & grippin grain, but never check the rappers who only promote name brands, jewelery, cars and liquor.Yes most southern videos look alike but how many times are we forced to endure the half hearted blurred logos from the look at my watch rappers. I say support the artists not the regions b/c when they others want to shut down rap, THEY don't care where you're from.

Posted by: Terry Gentry at January 18, 2006 08:10 AM

East Coast people never except anything thats not theirs!

At the Source Awards in 1995 when Snoop gave the East Coast crowd a nice, well earned "F*ck y'all!" and Suge Knight managed to bitch Puffy, something happened that in the South will never be forgotten. Outkast won in the best new artist category. East Coast hip-hop critics had brainwashed so many people in NY to thinking that only good MC's came out of New York, people were booing my boys Andre and Big Boi (not that it mattered seeing how my boys over their career have sold more albums than any other hip-hop group ever; including some of the East Coast's finest such as Wu-Tang, The Roots, De-La-Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, and any other group you can think of according to Soundscan numbers). I mean seriously booing Outkast as if it were Ronald Reagan that came on stage or something! This was also the fault of NY radio who refused to play anything other than NY hip-hop so most people never got a chance to hear how well put together that album was. That point right there is where my contempt for East Coast hip-hop critics and radio began.

Posted by: Southern Perspective at January 18, 2006 09:30 AM

Southern Perspective - You hit the nail on the head as they say when it comes to Jay-Z. I try to tell people it's no coincidence that he didn't really have success until Pac and Biggie were gone. He was like a nice medicine to keep Biggie fans from having withdrawals kinda like Dru Hill was for Jodeci fans. After that, I'll give him credit for keeping his grind going and having business savvy, but "The Greatest" - not hardly. He's basically and above average MC (much like a Fabulous) that was in the right place at the right time with the right movement behind him. Anybody notice how BEANIE SIGEL mysteriously did not have any significant part in a Jay-Z project after he clearly stole the show on the Dynasty and outshined Jay-Z on every song he was on?

Posted by: The Lighter at January 18, 2006 09:33 AM

I bet u that nigga "Southern perspective" is Nike. Talking that same old bullshit lol. Yall love getting platinum blogs off NY and g-unit...its cool though.

Posted by: Ayo at January 18, 2006 09:35 AM

YEA I REMEMBER WHEN OUTKAST WON THE GRAMMY IN N.Y. AND TOLD THE CROWD "THE SOUTH HAS SOMETHING TO SAY".OUTKAST WINNING THE GRAMMY THAT YEAR WAS LIKE A WHITE MAN COMING HOME EARLY TO FIND A BLACKMAN WITH HIS DICK IN HIS WIFES MOUTH..........SICK.

WOW LOL I 4 GOT ABOUT De-La-Soul.FRUITY ASS NIGGAS.........GO NEW YORK.

YEA I NEVER BEEN A FAN OF GAY-Z BUT I DID LIKE BIG PIMPIN B/C OF UGK.HE AINT NEVER BEEN KING OF SHIT DOWN HERE BUT BIG LIPS.

AYE TEXAS WE DONT HAVE TO STAND UP...WE ALREADY STANDING.

Posted by: TEXXXAS<--THATS WHATS UP! at January 18, 2006 09:49 AM

I'm so sick and tired of journalist trying to divide the country with this bullshit and then they use false information to make it worst.

Everybody knows the west hasn't had anyone selling for a while besides Games 1st album and probably his last one to sell but the West is coming back with G-Unit aka G-Unit Crips. Spyder loc has already started releasing songs with dudes under him and Jayo Felony plus others in the West who already sell average albums are signed to G-Unit.

Yes of course the South is dominating the radio waves and is all over tv but it is QUANTITY NOT QUALITY. I'm not knocking southern rappers what I am saying is that basically the south releases a whole bunch of artists and the only ones that sell are Luda, TI, Mike Jones, Paul Wall and even Slim Thug and Chamillionaire who killed mixtapes isn't selling as much as people thought. Every other southern rapper basically sells 100,000-300,000 records each album or goes gold. But like I said there is just so many of them that they flood the market. They aren't dominating statistically.

G-Unit by itself every album they released combined has probably sold 5 times as many albums as the south combined. Kiss album went platinum for the 1st time, DipSet is alwats dependable for gold status or close to it and Fabolous is always good for gold or platinum.

Basically when you take all of that into consideration the south is like the dealer on the block who sells a bunch of product non stop working day and night but making little profit each sale(artist) so he has to work 24/7 but NY is the wholesaler supplying those dealers so they only have to make 1 sale a month to equal what the south makes from working non stop.

No region is doing better than the others but if you base it off air play the south wins by numbers since G-Unit is the only 1 not from there on the radio all day but if you base it off of sales NY wins easily.

Posted by: Real Talk at January 17, 2006 08:55 PM

THAT MAN HAS ANOTHER GOOD POINT. PEOPLE SAY THE SOUTH IS RUNNIN RAP BUT WOULDNT RUNNIN RAP BE ABOUT WHO HAS THE BETTA NUMBAZ? I CAN BE ON TV ALL DAY BUT IT DOESNT MEAN PPL ARE WATCHIN ME FEEL ME. THE SOUTH JUST PUTS EVERYBODY AND RELEASES THEM TO USE THEM TO GET A QUICK BUCK BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH REAL TALK THAT NY IS STILL MAKIN THE MOST MONEY FROM RAP. SOUTHERN ARTIST DO NOT GO PLATINUM AND ITS A BIG DEAL WHEN THEY GO GOLD ONLY LUDA AND TI ARE GOIN PLAT ON THE REG AND MIKE JONES DID BUT THATS ABOUT IT. EVERYBODY IN G-UNIT GOES PLAT, 50 SOLD 20 MILLION BY HIMSELF IN 2 ALBUMS, BY HIMSELF HE PROBABLY OUTSIDE THE SOUTH, FABO GOES PLAT, KISS WENT PLAT.

Posted by: He speaks the truth at January 18, 2006 10:20 AM

I've been listening to hip hop music since the early 80's and compared to the trends nowadays, hip hop is definitely watered down. Now Southern rap is not whack. At least not all of it. There are generic whack rappers from every coast out there so let's not put the curse of "Laffy Taffy" on the south. Lil Wayne, Goodie Mobb, UGK, Outkast, Scarface, T.I., Luda, etc have been dropping some hot stuff for a few years now. Respect do to lyricists and good music makers all around. The media knows how to push our buttons (hip hop community) by saying "oh the south is killing it now. East coast is dead." Listen, these labels are looking for groups and rappers that can sell gimmicks. Obviously money is an issue. So if cats from NY aint making hits then they aint getting any airplay. Plain and simple. I'm tired of the hip hop being the type of music where artist fight amongst themselves over who's the best coast and all this media hyped nonsense. The industry doesn't want to see us all together because there's money to be made in controversy. Hip hop, on a mainstream level, is hurting if not on life supprt, but there are good rappers out there from different regions. People from NY just like lyrics alot and that's not always the case with some other places. At least that's how it seems. So we tend to complain alot when we hear things like Mike Jones repeating himself and songs like Laffy Taffy. When people(mainly us) start to care about what mcs are saying again as opposed to bouncing beats, sing-along-hooks, and funny catch phrases then hip hop will begin to prosper. Until then we'll have to ride with the industry machine. Just my opinion.

Posted by: BK_Brock at January 18, 2006 10:28 AM

Im saying though would Texas stand alone in this hip hop shit? would Georgia stand alone in this hip hop shit? would all them other places in the south be able to be "runnin" anything alone? NOPE. New York is the only state on the northeast that got a chance to blow and stood ALONE MOST OF THE TIME.They aint have a whole bunch of other states in they region to shout out "northeast anthems" and shit.Now what Im waitin for is for the midwest to blow.

Posted by: Guru at January 18, 2006 10:31 AM

lil flip gay ass fuk check out hiphopgame.com and go to crazy pic and look at flip in highschool

Posted by: lil flip at January 18, 2006 10:39 AM

Wow, the hate on Jay is strong in here. I don't agree with any of it, of course. I'll take some of Jay's lyrics and put it against anybody you name any day of the week. Am I saying Jay is the greatest of all time? Nope. I personally think Rakim is, but that's besides the point. The fact of the matter is, none of you can say for sure what would have happened if Pac and Biggie were here, unless you are God, which I don't think any of you are.

On another hand, I'm a hip-hop junkie like anybody else. And I don't care about regions. I just listen to everybody. I give credit to the south. They are running it now. Luda, T.I., Jeezy, Outkast. Doin it big. I personally can't stand Mike Jones, but more power to him. As far as New York hip-hop goes, there really isn't a whole lot going on. But, like the cycles go, New York will be back soon enough. Whenever Dre drops Detox, the west will be on the front again.

Please people, don't get caught up in this nonsence media game to get all of us whining about which region is better. Who cares? IT'S ALL OUR MUSIC.

Posted by: manifest at January 18, 2006 11:30 AM

To sum it all up, I’ll go over some key points. 1. To be rated highly by an East Coast hip-hop critic you must be from the East Coast. No ands, ifs, or buts about that. 2. You had to have received a lot of play on NY radio, which is hypocritical seeing how they have and still do refuse to play songs from other regions. 3. According to New York critics, the number of record sales you make and airplay you receive goes into your consideration for “best MC” only if you are from NY (as they have done for their latest savior Jay-Z).

Posted by: Southern Perspective at January 18, 2006 12:12 PM

Its funny when poeple hate so much on 50 yet when it comes to something like this he's holding it down for NY lol, haaaaaaaaaaaa ????? I don't understand
Dirty South reppa

Posted by: U.E. at January 18, 2006 12:15 PM

I got back to Atlanta that fall of ‘96, Outkast dropped “Atliens”. Now if I were to go up to an East Coast hip-hop critic and say that “Atliens” was a better album than “Reasonable Doubt” they would fall down laughing and then get up and try to fight me. They would say that nobody was listening to "Atliens" and that Jay-Z’s interpretation of street life on that album was beyond competition. I would then slap that critic and remind them that no one was listening to “Reasonable Doubt”!!! Outkast was getting more spins on Southern and Midwestern radio than Jay-Z was getting in his own city. Outkast’s perception of Southern street life with tracks such as “Elevators” (which Funkmaster Flex has noted confusion at why Hot 97 wasn’t playing it), “Two Dope Boyz (In a Cadillac)”, and “Jazzy Belles” related nothing to NY street life so therefore NY critics dismissed it.

The reason the West Coast got big was because people in the South and Midwest were feeling it hard. The South, West Coast, and Midwest are like one. Since no slave ships went West, most of the black people from the West Coast have grandmothers or great grandmothers that are from the South. The Midwest is the same way. Come on Midwest, my family is from Detroit. You know how country all the old people are up there (try to remember your last family reunion). All this to say that we relate to each other better than any of us can relate to NY culture. NY critics don’t understand our obsession with cars, freaky women, and other Southern customs because they are in another world.

Posted by: Southern Perspective at January 18, 2006 12:19 PM

New York all day.

Posted by: Nay Nay at January 18, 2006 12:20 PM

Be careful, make no mistakes but New York is already about to copy some of the style. I was reading an article about Lil’ Cease of Junior M.A.F.I.A. coming out with a genre called “Riot Music”. He says he wants NY to have a music like crunk. As quick as the East Coast critics dismiss people like Lil’ Scrappy, Cease will become a genius in his new copycat genre. The Diplomats already came out with the song “Crunk Muzick”. Couldn’t believe my ears!!! Anyway don’t worry that NY critics don’t take our hip-hop seriously. They keep saying how we’ll fall off like they tried to do with the West Coast and kind of succeeded in their quest. I’ll tell you why it won’t happen...

First of all, when the West Coast began its decline, it wasn’t necessarily all of NY’s doing like they want to make you believe. The West Coast didn’t diversify enough. The majority of their music was coming off of two record labels. Ruthless and Death Row. When Suge went to prison, Tupac died, and Dr. Dre and Snoop left, half of the West Coast was gone. Ruthless suffered with Eazy-E dying and that is that. We are different. Artists from the South who could never get major label attention anyway, did their own thing on independent labels. That is why the independent label is so ingrained in Southern hip-hop (please check out my link to all the underground cd’s and DVD’s from the Oomp Camp website on my homepage). The most a record label can get out of a Southern rapper is a distribution deal. Southern rappers don’t sell their souls for 60 cents an album like rappers from NY do. The legacy of slavery in the South has blacks down here very wary of working hard to make other people rich. Artists down here will sell out of their trunks (listen to Nas’ “God’s Son” on the first track) for 8 dollars a pop and keep all the money.

Posted by: Southern Perspective at January 18, 2006 12:23 PM

"But, like the cycles go, New York will be back soon enough. Whenever Dre drops Detox, the west will be on the front again.

Please people, don't get caught up in this nonsence media game to get all of us whining about which region is better. Who cares? IT'S ALL OUR MUSIC."

I feel you manifest. Dudes on here typing up long books of blah blah blah and still in the past when its 2006 now. It aint even that serious. Some of yall actin like bitter rappers that never made it.

Posted by: Nay Nay at January 18, 2006 12:25 PM

MC's in the South make and keep more money on average than MC's in NY at this point. Why do you think the South has taken over 106 and Park? They need to change the name of the show to Peachtree Street, Bourbon Street, or Beale Street because that’s all you see on there now. Southern MC's have more of a budget to make videos because all of their money belongs to them and not a record label. The West Coast also fell off because the South was a big market for West Coast music. As our radio stations started playing more of our own songs, we weren’t listening to as much West Coast anymore and now I miss it. We also won’t fall off because of pure numbers. The majority of blacks in this country live in the South. Next is the Midwest. According to the U.S. census bureau in 2000, out of the 10 states with the largest black populations, only two were not in the South or Midwest. And one of those two states not in the South or Midwest was California.

So naturally we will be listening to our own music (i.e., notice how here in the South you never hear an artist from the East Coast unless they are on the same track as one of our artists?). NY critics have attacked our dominance the same as they did the West Coast by saying we are not “lyrically” strong. Please! Andre 3000 is better than any rapper residing in NY including Talib and Mos Def. Yeah I said that shit!!! Debate me on the shit and I’ll win because unlike you NY critics, I actually listen to your music. You don’t listen to ours, you only hear it. I will go toe to toe with you for every NY MC that you feel is “lyrically” strong, I will give you a Southern rapper of equal or stronger stature. As much as I hate Lil’ Flip, I love that track he has with David Banner (another who feels like me about the arrogance of East Coast hip-hop critics) on number 13 from “Underground Legend” talking about how the South helped pioneer hip-hop.

Posted by: Southern Perspective at January 18, 2006 12:25 PM

"But, like the cycles go, New York will be back soon enough. Whenever Dre drops Detox, the west will be on the front again.

Please people, don't get caught up in this nonsence media game to get all of us whining about which region is better. Who cares? IT'S ALL OUR MUSIC."

I feel you manifest. Dudes on here typing up long books of blah blah blah and still in the past when its 2006 now. It aint even that serious. Some of yall actin like bitter rappers that never made it.

Posted by: Nay Nay at January 18, 2006 12:25 PM

Damn I aint mean to put that twice lol.

Posted by: Nay Nay at January 18, 2006 12:26 PM

For Example:


Now New York accepts and loves Twista because he “throws those diamonds up”. Ain’t that some shit?

Posted by: Southern Perspective at January 18, 2006 12:29 PM

I dont listen to rap music of today at all so I dont know what the fuck going on and could care less about rap right now. Some of yall worrying too much about stuff that aint as important. This rap shit will be gone soon, Black people being dumb as hell and analyzing rap like they know everything when theres more important shit going on in this world? That looks like its forever and priceless.

Posted by: Nay Nay at January 18, 2006 12:30 PM

Who said the south has no lyrics?

Check this!

scarface:


I don't remember much about bein born
But I do remember this: I was conceived on February 10th
Complications detected in my early months of ballin
Around my sonargram you could see the evil was swarmin
The hassle, was it what the world was seekin in a child?
The doctors wanted me out, my mama's in denial
Then I kicked her and gently rubbed my hands across her stomach
Told her: "Keep em off me, mama, I'm comin, I'm comin"

Now I guess I musta been the reason mama couldn't sleep
Interrupted her peace, but it was time for me to eat
And since carryin me caused all that swimmin in your feet
Just know that I'm thankful, I'll let you feel it with my heartbeat
All the doctor visits and physicians movin me around
You could sense my discomfort in every other ultrasound
And I'm runnin out of room in here, steady slidin down
Then she opened up her legs and pushed me out (pushed me out)

(Nigger, nigger never die
Blackface, shining eye)

When I awoke I recall them walkin out my nose
Screamin at the top of my lungs, freezing cold
Wrapped me up in blankets after dressing me in clothes
Then I met the ?? that I owed
At 3 o'clock, what-what, nine seven o
Was the birth of a dying species, and this I know
The truth was in my bloodline, planted in my seed
The last of this muthafuckin breed

The last of this muthafuckin breed

Posted by: Southern Perspective at January 18, 2006 12:44 PM

I don't care about the south or what New York is doing because truth be told when Hip Hop needed something new and refrehsing it was alway's some New York niggas to delvier the goods. Like when NAS, PUN, and DMX came along. When that void happened two years ago Kanye Wesy came and gave Hip Hop a much needed blood transfusion. Since Then COmmon has ressurcted himself and Lupe Fiasco is a new artist guaranteed to shit on niggas from anywhere. The only album that i have heard that sounds like some new york music is llyod banks bootleg from his album "money in the bank". besides that new york niggas is sufferin an identity crisis.all this gangbanging shit they nigas b on lik the DIp set started in Chicago and made popular to the mainstream by L.A. most new york niggas sound like N.W.A nowaday's anyway. It's like can someone from up there hire Dj premier or pete rock. hello ? can someone give rza a call. the reason why them niggas do't is because really they are no better than niggas from the south anyway. lil wayne at his best is just as good or better than saigon, papoose,j-mills, and all them niggas. so if you wan't real hip hop then go buy Late registration, BE, and upe's new album that will be dropping soon called food and liquor. chitwon got it right now haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

Posted by: Chicago is holding Hip Hop Down at January 18, 2006 12:46 PM

P.s. big up to my texas niggas and all them nigas down south becasue up here in the CHI we don't hate we know where our roots at and they are down south.

Posted by: Chicago is holding Hip Hop dwon at January 18, 2006 12:49 PM

Nigga chi-town aint doin shit just like new york and cali aint doin shit.Fuck outta here.

Posted by: Big Will at January 18, 2006 12:49 PM

IT LOOK LIKE SCHEMATICS IS NOW POSTING AS SOUTHERN PERSPECTIVE, DAMN NEGRO GET A LIFE ALREADY,DONT NOBODY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THROWING IT DOWN THE DRAIN WHEN THEY COULD BE HELPING THE BLACK CAUSE.
HOW MANY RAPPERS AND SOUTHERN RAPPERS FOR THAT MATTER ARE DONATING THEIR MILLIONS FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF THEIR PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES NOT MANY .
SCHEMATICS STOP POSTING HERE AS SOUTHERN PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE I TOLD YOU BEFORE THAT MARYLAND IS NOT REALLY THE SOUTH, YOU ARE ACTUALLY MORE OF A NORTHENER THAN A SOUTHERNER SO GET YOUR MIND RIGHT.

Posted by: southern smoke at January 18, 2006 12:51 PM

Southern Smoke you the truth.

Posted by: Nay Nay at January 18, 2006 12:52 PM

He speaks the truth, Kiss ain't never went plat. and Fabo last album onlt went gold when was da last time somebody went plat dat wasn't in g unit? the south had 3 new platinum rappers in da game this year like them or not. mike jones, paul wall, and young jeezy. if it wasn't for 50 new york wouldn't be sellin a got damn thang. funny thing is he done dissed damn near er'body in new york, he don't even claim ya'll. graf, papoose, and j-millz can't make a hot song to save their life.

Posted by: T-Cool at January 18, 2006 01:05 PM

Southern Hip Hop is ruling because of a simple marketing plan, keep the music local, there are enough of you ignorant fools down there to sell 100 g's b4 anyone else even hears it, all radio and record companies care about is numbers, look at the size of texas assholes, its huge and crawling with ignorant, niggas rapping about bullshit. rap is dead long live hip hop, u fools will be wiped away like the dinosaurs, then real hip hop will return. Fuckin coons!!!!.gold teeth man?......come on youre clowns, Mintsrels, Buffoons in blackface dancing around for these little white dudes to follow you until they get older than they laugh at you, so keep cooning!!...Its shooooooowtime!!!!

Posted by: Voice of reason at January 18, 2006 01:09 PM

WTF

How am i Scematics

please explain this to me

Posted by: Southern Perspective at January 18, 2006 01:32 PM

VOICE OF REASON....
U EXPECT US TO TAKE THAT STATEMENT SERIOUSLY??? TEXAS COULD BE THE SIZE OF MAINE NI@@A AND HOUSTON CATS STILL WOULD SELL.. WHAT THE HELL DOES A BORDER HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT???? AND FOR YOU TO COME DOWN AND SAY THAT THE SOUTH IS DANCING FOR WHITE DUDES?? UMM LAST TIME I CHECKT THE THIRD COAST DONT PLAY THAT...ITS THE OTHER COASTS WITH WHITE DUDES PLAYING THE PUPPET MASTER... WE ARE INDEPENDENTS.. NUFF' SAID... HOW THE HELL IS SOMEONE GOING TO SELL A RECORD IF NO ONE HAS HEARD IT?? IM NOT TRYING TO DISCREDIT YOUR STATEMENT ON A TECHNICALITY... BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE YOU GOING... BUT THINK ABOUT IT... IF I NEVER HEARD SAY.. PAUL WALL.. AND A HUNDRED K NEVER HEARD PAULL WALL.. HOW IS HE OGING TO SELL TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO NEVER HEARD HIM??? OH.. AND CATS ARE KNOWN FOR NOT GETTING RADIO PLAY AND STILL SELLING OUT... AND DONT GIVE ME THIS AND THAT ABOUT WHTA U SEE ON TV.. THE SOUTH HAS BEEN LIVING LONG BEFORE THESE GIMMICK GIMMIE CASH RAPPERS YOU SEE NOW... ILL PUT IT LIKE THIS
GET IT STRAIGHT
NEXT TIME YOU HATE
STOP PUTTING OUT WHAT YOU CREATE
CUZ IT WONT WORK.... IF IM IN THE DEBATE
HOLLAR

Posted by: MIKE,SW,HTOWN at January 18, 2006 01:33 PM

All these hating ass up north niggas, niggas down south getting money. Dont hate cuz yall niggaz on the sideline watching. If yall dislike southern music so much yall smart dumb niggas need to tell ya favorite rapper to get in the studio and make some quality records like the ones yall used to make back in the day. dont hate cuz we chasing paper down south.

Posted by: EC at January 18, 2006 01:35 PM

what up Southern Perspective aka nike aka posting the same shit on every blog about the south.yeah bitch nigga pull your skirt up i told you on the other blog thats about to be 6x plat on this same subject i was gonna ride on your bitch ass every chance i get.get a life nigga stop switching your name up the way you switch panties every night.
\oh yeah one more time for you slow motherfuckas who dont get it.we dont fuck with 50 because his name is tarnished in the streets as for as being a snitch.simple and plain.just because yall niggas get on your knees for rappers no matter what there street cred is we dont.
yall niggas in the south and doing shit we havent done already so pump your breaks.
shout out to stat quo.that nigga got skills a true mc.i doubt if yall south niggas will big him up that much because he spits lyrics.
shake your laffy taffy.

Posted by: bxconnect at January 18, 2006 01:38 PM

WHY IS THERE NOTHING GOING ON IN HIPHOP
TELL ME WHY?
ITS SO FUCKING BORING?
I REMEBER THE DAYS WHEN A NEW RELESE WOULD COME OUT EVERY TUESDAY AND THURSDAY, AND I WOULD GO BROKE BUYING ALBUMS.
FUCK YOU! DUMB ASS NIGGAS!

Posted by: *****GOD***** at January 18, 2006 01:39 PM

Boondocks is Ray-Ray

Posted by: Word at January 18, 2006 01:52 PM

what the fuck is with these fools acting like fucking news broadcasters on forums of which the subject has nothing at all to do with what they are saying?pointless crap and rumours.fuck off.

Posted by: X is coming....... at January 18, 2006 02:17 PM

M.I.A.???Run The Road ???Danger Doom ??? Fatlip ??? Self Scientific ??? Mike Jones ??? All these were albums of ad year, GET DA FUCK OUTTA HERE!!!!! how bout Common, Paul Wall, Slim Thug, Game, TI, Young Jeezy, Boyz N Da Hood, Bun B, and Cassidy. HOW DA FUCK YOU 4GET BOUT THEM ALBUMS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

And the Big Apple has plenty of talent, such as Cam'ron's Diplomats crew????? New York's 50 Cent still reliably produces megahits???????????
OK DIPLOMATS ARE GRABGE, THE ONLY 2 THAT COULD DO REAL NUMBERS LIKE THEY SHOULD IS HELL RELL AND SANTANA, OTHER THAN THAT DA REST OF THEM NIGGAS FRESH SHIT STR8 OUT DA ASS. 50 2 POP THA'S DA ONLY REASON HE SELLIN'ANYTHING, AND DA FUCK UP THING IS HE NOT EVEN DA BEST IN G-UNIT...BANKS SHOULD BE DA 1 DOING 50 NUMBERS!!! P.S.: HOW BOUT DA LOX, DA'S DA BEST FACTION N NYC, PERIOD.

IT AIN'T LIKE DUDE LYIN CUZ AIN'T REALLY BEEN A RAPPER THAT CAME OUTTA NYC RECENTLY AND DID SUMTHIN MAJOR. U GETTA NIGGA WHO HOT 4 DA MOMENT AND THA'S IT (J-MILLZ), AND THEN U GOT DA DUDES WHO LOOK LIKE THEY BOUT TO DO SUMTHIN AND THEN FLOP OR DISAPPEAR (MOST OF DA ROC,DIP-SET, G-UNIT MEMBERS WHO AIN'T 50). BUT EVERBODY THAT COME OUTTA DA SOUTH AIN' HOT (I.E.: D4L, PRETTY RICKY, PETTY PABLO, LIL FLIP, YOUNG BUCK, BABY, MOST OF SLIP N SLIDE...JUST 2 NAME A FEW). AND YEAH DA SOUTH DOIN' GOOD AND ALL BUT HOW BOUT DA CHI ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Posted by: GMONEY at January 18, 2006 02:50 PM

PRETTY RICKY, MIKE JONES,D4L,BABY ECT???! LMAOOOOOOOOOO u lost all credibility. Your opinion offically doesnt count GMONEY.Move on.Next.Wow you obviously dont listen to good shit if u listen to D4L and say they hot.

Posted by: ER at January 18, 2006 02:54 PM

Bx connect is right. The south ain't doin too much that NY already hasn't done, but everything got its ups and downs. There should be NO argument that right now the south is on fire. NY had they thing in 80's, 90's (although I fuckin hate that p diddy and Mase era), and even death row had cali in dem airwaves. But right now wit skills or no skills southern niggas on BET, MTV, and yo radio. So ya'll round the country might as well get used to it. And I'm sick of niggas saying shit bout lyrics. I put Slim Thug, T.I., Bun-B, 8 ball, Z-ro, Devin da Dude just to name a few got mad tight skills. Just cause its delivered different don't knock it. And I don't hate on the east, but give credit where credit due.

Posted by: HighLife (Nig Laden on u hoes) at January 18, 2006 03:08 PM

These East Coast heads hatin on the south and the West because they both at one time (or in the south's case, Right NOW!) took over somethin they side created. Tell your MC's to step they marketing Game up. Don't get mad at the south because they got a bunch of artist gettin cake off Bangin ass beats and catchy hooks while your top artist (50 of course) is pretty much following the same formula. Get with the times man. Not too many people wanna hear that poetic lyrical knowledge shit. They want somethin thats gone have a big booty bitch grindin on them, or for a female, make that ass start bouncin. Stick to the stript and maybe yall can do some more numbers. Don't don't come in here sayin they fuckin the game up, cuz on the real, they just makin it alot better. Look at the west, they on the dirt bottom right now but you don't see them bitch and complainin about the south and the state of hip-hop. We out here gettin ours on our own tellin them major label execs to kiss our independent asses! Just you backpack ass East Coast niggaz. Get ya money south!! and we gonna keep bringin that CRUNK shit!

Posted by: GA Dude at January 18, 2006 03:14 PM

^ Okay...whatever u say GA Dude LMAOO. Keep on typing while I keep on laughin at yall and all this ignorance.

Posted by: ER at January 18, 2006 03:19 PM

YEEEEEA I SEE THE SOUTH ON HERE HOLDING IT DOWN 2DAY.

WHAT IT DO MIKE,SW,HTOWN,...SOUTHEREN, CHICAGO, T-COOL

U EVER NOTICE WHEN WE COME AT THEM WITH FACTS THEY DONT RESPOND TO IT B/C ITS FACTS AND CANT BE DISPUTED.

WE HAVE MORE ARTEST GOING PLAT BUT THEY DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

BEEN ON TOP FOR YEARS WHEN THEY SAID WE WOULDNT LAST. BUT THEY DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE HAVE INFLUENCED THEIR SYLE OF RAP. NY RAP 2DAY DONT SOUND LIKE IT DID IN THE 80'S 90'S.NOW THEY RAP ABOUT HOODS,WEED,GUNS AND SHIT.GETO BOYS RAPPING BOUT THAT SHIT IN THE 80'S. 8-BALL MJG & UGK SAMETHING. BUT THEY DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE GOT THEY GOD GAY-Z CALLING 2 ASK UGK TO BE ON HIS SINGLE.BUT THEY DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE GOT THEY GOD GAY Z SAYING "UGK HAS PUT OUT CLASSIC ALBUMS THAT HALF THE COUNTRY HAS NEVER HEARD".THIS THEY GOD SAYING THIS. BUT THEY DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

NOW WE GOT RAPPERS MIXING PROMETHAZINE W/CODIENE IN 2 LITER SPRITES WITH THE JOLLY RANCHER IN IT. BUT THEY DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE GOT EAST COAST RAPPERS TRYING TO CHOP AND SCREW MIXTAPES. BUT THEY DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE INFLUENCE U MOFOS YALL DONT INFLUENCE US.U NIGGAS IS GARBAGE AND GETS NO PLAY IN DALLAS.

1 OF U MOFOS TELL ME WHO IS DOING BIG THANGS IN N.Y.? SOMEBODY ANSWER THIS GOTDAMN QUESTION! WHO IS DOING BIG THANGS IN N.Y.? NIGGAS AINT WENT PLAT IN YEARS.....YEARS!

SOUTH NIGGAS KEEP PUTTING IT IN THEY FACE

Posted by: TEXXXAS<--THATS WHATS UP! at January 18, 2006 03:20 PM

Nah I dont respond to most of it because I have nothing to prove to any of yall. All yall gonna think what you want and really I dont give a fuck what any of yall think about "NYC Hip Hop". Its just funny to see the shit yall type on here and its funny how niggas who dont live here are so concerned about NYC...if u dont like us why do yall write long ass shit about New York and why the hell do yall even care so much?

Posted by: ER at January 18, 2006 03:23 PM

ER

HE SAID EVERYBODY THAT COME OUT THE SOUTH "AINT HOT". HE DIDNT SAY THEY WERE HOT.COMPREHEND NIGGA

Posted by: TEXXXAS<--THATS WHATS UP! at January 18, 2006 03:28 PM

It looks like all of yall are mad at new York for little shit like hip hop LMAO.Do yall have lives or do yall sit on here all day thinking of how much u feel New York dissed yall? Its a new day, get over it instead of actin like females on this bitch.Keep on typing that shit though please LMAO. Its okay let out your frustrations.I know yall feel hurt and emotionally bruised and shit for what I dont know but yall niggas really taking this seriously and gettin tight behind yall computers LMAO. Hate New York all yall want...none of us aint gonna cry over that shit like yall doing.

TEXAS..iight then I stand corrected. Damn u really takin this serious.

Posted by: ER at January 18, 2006 03:30 PM

LOL ONCE AGAIN HE DIDNT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

ALL OF A SUDDEN HE DONT HAVE NOTHING TO PROVE TO US.NIGGA IF IT DONT MATTER TO U OR U DONT CARE. DONT RESPOND.

Posted by: TEXXXAS<--THATS WHATS UP! at January 18, 2006 03:36 PM

I never did have anything to prove what u mean "all of a sudden"? I never did try to prove shit in here. I think youre also mad because I dont care...hmm

Posted by: ER at January 18, 2006 03:44 PM

I got free time so why not respond? Yall are entertaining for right now.

Posted by: ER at January 18, 2006 03:45 PM

U MEEN A WHOLE DAY HAS GONE BY AND ONLY 1 NY GROUPIE HAS RESPONDED. NIGGAS USUALLY HAVE A LOT TO SAY.

LOL STILL WAITING ON MY QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED.

1 OF U MOFOS TELL ME WHO IS DOING BIG THANGS IN N.Y.? SOMEBODY ANSWER THIS GOTDAMN QUESTION! WHO IS DOING BIG THANGS IN N.Y.? NIGGAS AINT WENT PLAT IN YEARS.....YEARS!

NEW YOOORK WHERE U AT? LOL STAND UP BITCHS! LOL COWARDS DONT WANT TO PLAY 2DAY HUH?

U NIGGAS MAKE THIS ALOT OF FUN 4 ME.

Posted by: TEXXXAS<--THATS WHATS UP! at January 18, 2006 06:53 PM

texas jus stop hatin nobody aint respond cas nobody b sittin at they computer all day long like u nigga i suggest u get a life and like er said aint nobody here in ny care bout the south and i know ya'll mad cause of that cause ya'll keep mentioning "ya'll neva show us respect,you will neva undastand us mayne blah blah..." whateva it's time 2 stop thinking bout ny 24/7hr a day 7 days a week and think bout ur 7 or 8 kids ya'll got runnin around tha streets and your grandmotha who lives 10miles away cas 2 tell u tha truth u wnt find no Ny'er sittin on their porch bitching n moaning bout how nny this n ny that like u dwn south niggas we knw ya'll hate us and u knw wat WE jus dont give a fuck haters will always b the source of energy niggas rememba that

Posted by: B-easy at January 18, 2006 08:18 PM

sorry for that i meant 24 hr a day 7 days a week a few typos but fuck it

Posted by: B-easy at January 18, 2006 08:20 PM

o yeah u know tha 1 to talk bout copying so aint texas copyin ny by beefing with atl because ya'll always condemn us for beefing with our own so why ya'll beefin with atl remember "the south gosta stick together mayne cause thats tha only way we uh can make money mayne thas all we about mayne is makin dat money mayne we dont give shit bout hiphop uh we jus need 2 support our 5 kids mayne ayo fuck ny" lol thats how u south niggas are dont give a fuck bout nothin thas y ya'll asses will always b poor SOUTHSIDE!!lol "o yea and again fuck ny...yea fuck ny mayne...did i mention 2 say fuck ny yes intha south we gosta say fuck ny its our motto mayne ayo fuck ny again bitches"

Posted by: B-easy at January 18, 2006 08:32 PM

o yeah u know tha 1 to talk bout copying so aint texas copyin ny by beefing with atl because ya'll always condemn us for beefing with our own so why ya'll beefin with atl remember "the south gosta stick together mayne cause thats tha only way we uh can make money mayne thas all we about mayne is makin dat money mayne we dont give shit bout hiphop uh we jus need 2 support our 5 kids mayne ayo fuck ny" lol thats how u south niggas are dont give a fuck bout nothin thas y ya'll asses will always b poor SOUTHSIDE!!lol "o yea and again fuck ny...yea fuck ny mayne...did i mention 2 say fuck ny yes intha south we gosta say fuck ny its our motto mayne ayo fuck ny again bitches"

Posted by: B-easy at January 18, 2006 08:33 PM

Lol I know yall.It is funny how these southerners are so mad at anybody from New York.All yall heated and most of us chilling, sitting back and yawning. Southern niggas nag and bitch too much about New York all day. Too sensitive. Over here we really dont give a fuck what yall think. Over there yall nag about how New York dont accept yall, how New York is arrogant, and how New York hurt your feelings. New York isnt a person dumb niggas its a damn state lol. You all be on New Yorks dick way too much, I think yall dont hate New York as much as yall say yall do from the looks of how much yall type shit about New York...yall just mad because yall know no matter what New York is forever the mecca of just about everything in America and Americas the mecca of the world. Hip Hop charts cant change that fact and yall mad but its okay :-) . It doesnt matter to us whose "doing their thing" (maybe to the rappers) but not to us cause I have a life...I dont sit on the computer all day waiting for a southern nigga to type dumb shit to argue about "whose on the charts" and I aint making money off none of them rappers so I dont give a fuck. What kind of gay shit is do yall be on? Yall actually think we're gonna go back and forth like bitches arguing over something as dumb and ignorant as regions? Nah thats mostly a southern thing and yall just mad cause yall finally getting attention after 20 something years and "still dont get respect" Thats what yall say...that yall dont get respect.

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 19, 2006 04:24 AM

ER the shit u said was the truth and yo we've did everything yall doing now and still doing it so we laughing at yall...this shit dont phase us like it phases southern niggas and yes it does phase yall cause everytime somebody even mentions New York yall get riled up lol. I love that shit. Us in New York used to yall hating us...we love the shit believe it or not and we aint gonna beg yall to show respect to us like yall beg us to respect yall. "New York need to give us credit where its due, they need to stop being so arrogant, they need to resp.."..ahh Shut up nigga stop worrying about New York so much and live your life mad ass niggas lol. Yall be PMSing more than females down there.

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 19, 2006 04:25 AM

Advice to yall: Get some rest cause I know whatever yall doing right now, I bet yall got New York in your minds. Damn shame when niggas become obsessed like that lol. Aint no hate in my blood though so yall can keep hating but I think yall need professional help.

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 19, 2006 04:29 AM

OK

Name something New York is the mecca of other than Hip Hop:

1.Virgina and Massachussets were the first states in the United States so how is New York the mecca of the U.S.
2.Jazz, Blues, Rock and Roll all started in the south and all of this is a element of hip hop so without us yall wouldn't of had hip hop.
3.We didn't bitch about how yall used jazz tunes in your hip hop but you wanna complain when we runnin things.
4. Soul Food started in the south and SouthWest.
5.The African American South is gonna always be the mecca of black people and soul.

Posted by: GA Dude at January 19, 2006 08:20 AM

texas jus stop hatin nobody aint respond cas nobody b sittin at they computer all day long like u nigga i suggest u get a life and like er said aint nobody here in ny care bout the south and i know ya'll mad cause of that cause ya'll keep mentioning "ya'll neva show us respect,you will neva undastand us mayne blah blah..." whateva it's time 2 stop thinking bout ny 24/7hr a day 7 days a week and think bout ur 7 or 8 kids ya'll got runnin around tha streets and your grandmotha who lives 10miles away cas 2 tell u tha truth u wnt find no Ny'er sittin on their porch bitching n moaning bout how nny this n ny that like u dwn south niggas we knw ya'll hate us and u knw wat WE jus dont give a fuck haters will always b the source of energy niggas rememba that

Posted by: B-easy at January 18, 2006 08:18 PM

sorry for that i meant 24 hr a day 7 days a week a few typos but fuck it

Posted by: B-easy at January 18, 2006 08:20 PM

o yeah u know tha 1 to talk bout copying so aint texas copyin ny by beefing with atl because ya'll always condemn us for beefing with our own so why ya'll beefin with atl remember "the south gosta stick together mayne cause thats tha only way we uh can make money mayne thas all we about mayne is makin dat money mayne we dont give shit bout hiphop uh we jus need 2 support our 5 kids mayne ayo fuck ny" lol thats how u south niggas are dont give a fuck bout nothin thas y ya'll asses will always b poor SOUTHSIDE!!lol "o yea and again fuck ny...yea fuck ny mayne...did i mention 2 say fuck ny yes intha south we gosta say fuck ny its our motto mayne ayo fuck ny again bitches"

Posted by: B-easy at January 18, 2006 08:32 PM

o yeah u know tha 1 to talk bout copying so aint texas copyin ny by beefing with atl because ya'll always condemn us for beefing with our own so why ya'll beefin with atl remember "the south gosta stick together mayne cause thats tha only way we uh can make money mayne thas all we about mayne is makin dat money mayne we dont give shit bout hiphop uh we jus need 2 support our 5 kids mayne ayo fuck ny" lol thats how u south niggas are dont give a fuck bout nothin thas y ya'll asses will always b poor SOUTHSIDE!!lol "o yea and again fuck ny...yea fuck ny mayne...did i mention 2 say fuck ny yes intha south we gosta say fuck ny its our motto mayne ayo fuck ny again bitches"

Posted by: B-easy at January 18, 2006 08:33 PM

Lol I know yall.It is funny how these southerners are so mad at anybody from New York.All yall heated and most of us chilling, sitting back and yawning. Southern niggas nag and bitch too much about New York all day. Too sensitive. Over here we really dont give a fuck what yall think. Over there yall nag about how New York dont accept yall, how New York is arrogant, and how New York hurt your feelings. New York isnt a person dumb niggas its a damn state lol. You all be on New Yorks dick way too much, I think yall dont hate New York as much as yall say yall do from the looks of how much yall type shit about New York...yall just mad because yall know no matter what New York is forever the mecca of just about everything in America and Americas the mecca of the world. Hip Hop charts cant change that fact and yall mad but its okay :-) . It doesnt matter to us whose "doing their thing" (maybe to the rappers) but not to us cause I have a life...I dont sit on the computer all day waiting for a southern nigga to type dumb shit to argue about "whose on the charts" and I aint making money off none of them rappers so I dont give a fuck. What kind of gay shit is do yall be on? Yall actually think we're gonna go back and forth like bitches arguing over something as dumb and ignorant as regions? Nah thats mostly a southern thing and yall just mad cause yall finally getting attention after 20 something years and "still dont get respect" Thats what yall say...that yall dont get respect.

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 19, 2006 04:24 AM

ER the shit u said was the truth and yo we've did everything yall doing now and still doing it so we laughing at yall...this shit dont phase us like it phases southern niggas and yes it does phase yall cause everytime somebody even mentions New York yall get riled up lol. I love that shit. Us in New York used to yall hating us...we love the shit believe it or not and we aint gonna beg yall to show respect to us like yall beg us to respect yall. "New York need to give us credit where its due, they need to stop being so arrogant, they need to resp.."..ahh Shut up nigga stop worrying about New York so much and live your life mad ass niggas lol. Yall be PMSing more than females down there.

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 19, 2006 04:25 AM

Advice to yall: Get some rest cause I know whatever yall doing right now, I bet yall got New York in your minds. Damn shame when niggas become obsessed like that lol. Aint no hate in my blood though so yall can keep hating but I think yall need professional help.

^^^ I COMPLETELY agree.

Posted by: Not a Afri'cant' at January 19, 2006 08:31 AM

Real talk I bet some nigga is writing shit about New York (from the south) right now lol.

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 19, 2006 03:01 PM

Damn I was right. Just went to the southern ent blog and a dude from the south is still talking about NY this and that LMAO. Niggas obsessed like hell.

Cam is gonna get his assed MURKED by Jigga cant wait.

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 19, 2006 03:04 PM

If a nigga think niggas in the south bitch and whine about NYC, U gots the game twisted. Niggas down south was never really checkin for NYC beside Jay-Z, Biggie, and Dipset. NIgga we didnt like yall slow 808's with a recycled R&B bar for the hook. That shit dont sound good to us. Never did, and it never will. Yallm niggas is the ones who constantly come on here and talk down to us. Yall niggas just get salty when we defend our turf. Yall talk shit about us, but then when we talk about how hard yall fell off, yall get sensitive. Its all good, what comes up must come down.

PS.

We all know that NYC aint been hard since that nigga Rudy took the oath of office as mayor, so yall NYC heads can stop flexin.

Posted by: EC at January 19, 2006 04:06 PM

Niggas talkin about us jockin them. I think not. The south and the west are two regions that stay true to who they are. Niggas in the east act like they start everything, but they the first ones to jump on somebody's team when they team aint winnin. Last time I was up north, I seen niggas rockin dickies and bandannas. Niggas in NYC tryin to claim crip, and blood. Biting ass niggas, Leave the gang banging to the LA and Chicago niggas. Stick to what yall do. When yall was on top of the music game we did our own thing down south, we had our own sound down south. We didnt try and go out and replicate yall shit. Now the south is hot and yall trying to sound like us. Niggas from up north is makin beats with heavy 808's and slowin they delivery down. Thats our shit. Yall niggas do yall, and we gon do us. Thats why niggas dont respect yall no more cuz yall some flip flopping ass hoes. Niggas up north starting to ride in impalas and caprices, ol biting ass nigga. We been doing that for years down here. My cousins in Philly used to say those big american cars (what we call big bodies) was country. That was 4 years ago. Know he talkin bout when his taxes come back he gonna run out and get a 95 impala, cuz all the other dope boi niggas up there ridin in them shits. Fake ass niggas, Yall niggas have lost yall way.

PS- Its still all about that Westside
ZOne 4, Zone 2, ZOne 1

From Bankhead to Ben Hill this aint what ya want

Posted by: EC at January 19, 2006 04:25 PM

Niggas talkin about us jockin them. I think not. The south and the west are two regions that stay true to who they are. Niggas in the east act like they start everything, but they the first ones to jump on somebody's team when they team aint winnin. Last time I was up north, I seen niggas rockin dickies and bandannas. Niggas in NYC tryin to claim crip, and blood. Biting ass niggas, Leave the gang banging to the LA and Chicago niggas. Stick to what yall do. When yall was on top of the music game we did our own thing down south, we had our own sound down south. We didnt try and go out and replicate yall shit. Now the south is hot and yall trying to sound like us. Niggas from up north is makin beats with heavy 808's and slowin they delivery down. Thats our shit. Yall niggas do yall, and we gon do us. Thats why niggas dont respect yall no more cuz yall some flip flopping ass hoes. Niggas up north starting to ride in impalas and caprices, ol biting ass nigga. We been doing that for years down here. My cousins in Philly used to say those big american cars (what we call big bodies) was country. That was 4 years ago. Know he talkin bout when his taxes come back he gonna run out and get a 95 impala, cuz all the other dope boi niggas up there ridin in them shits, Yall niggas have lost yall way. I aint sayin yall fake, but thats the type of shit fake niggas do

PS- Its still all about that Westside
ZOne 4, Zone 2, ZOne 1

From Bankhead to Ben Hill this aint what ya want

Posted by: EC at January 19, 2006 04:26 PM

LMAOOOO EC u proved my point about southern niggas nagging and bitching about NYC THANK YOU!

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 19, 2006 05:59 PM

From ya comments its obvious you dont know shit about NYC or anything about the gangs but u mad? LMAOO U wrote madd shit and none of it was correct LMAO. U a funny dude like the rest of them niggas. I love this shit...the more shit yall type, the more u prove my point son. U try to change the subject from Hip Hop cause u mad and u still wasnt correct about the shit LMAO. Niggas these days and they sensitive asses talking about cities they know nothing about..I love it though NY niggas love when yall talk shit especially when the shit makes yall look more inferior each time and continuously proves our points. U aint even realize it LMAO. Damn this site gets funnier everytime.

Posted by: King fuckin kong at January 19, 2006 06:03 PM

Some niggas are obsessed with NY these days. Its pitiful how NY is always in yall niggas mouths and minds 24/7 365 days a year, 7 days a week LMAO. Yall cant sleep without thinkin bout NY. Damn shame...how sad. Go head say something else so I can laugh at your ass EC. Thats all imma do each time so go ahead.

Posted by: King fuckin kong at January 19, 2006 06:07 PM

This king kong dude talks about southerners being obsessed w/ NY, but how many posts did he add about the same BS? Also, when ppl mention platinum southern rap, Trick Daddy, Luke, Dj Magic Mike, 69 Boyz, &95 South are NEVER mentioned. Bass artists have been pushing units for years without major label backing, w/o magazines showing us attention,and without our video being in rotation. We Gave love to everyone only to not recieve the same. That's the root of the beef. We are not ALL crunk. We are not All bass But we do deserve everything we are getting.

Posted by: Gentry at January 19, 2006 11:26 PM

i agree wit king kong ya'll r obessed plus let tha dude write ya'll muthafuckas b writin made up history essay on these dam blogs all the time bout us. plus tha south dont show love they dickride theres a difference ya'll always b dickridin the west coast so ya'll can hurt ny's feelings aww thas aweet but please stop tring to romanticize i swear ya'll b actin like jealous boyfriends/girlfriends "you neva respect us u neva show us any love u neva wanna hold our hand nothing mayne fuck ny mayne" its sad i tell ya the funniest shit i hear was wen southerner b sayin "fuck ny south midwest west coast stand up we gosta unite to fight the war on ny mayne" lol wow 3 regions 1 state wow ya'll b makin us look more tough and more popular and i love it makes us grow

Posted by: B-easy at January 20, 2006 12:07 AM

SOUTHERN RAP IS DESTROYING HIP-HOP! POINT BLANK PERIOD. ITS TRUE EVERY REGION OF THE COUNTRY HAD THEIR TIME TO SHINE. THE EAST, THE WEST, THE MIDWEST, AND NOW THE SOUTH. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EVERY OTHER REGION AND THE SOUTH IS THE EAST AND WEST PUT OUT GOOD, QUALITY MUSIC THAT YOU CAN LISTEN TO FOR YEARS TO COME. THE SOUTH IS HIP-HOP AT ITS MOST BASIC FORM, CLUB SONG AFTER CLUB SONG, SHAKE YA ASS BITCH I'M A PIMP. ITS GETTING REDICULOUS. WHEN THE EAST WAS ON TOP WE HAD RUFF RYDERS, ROCAFELLA. THE WEST HAD SNOOP, DRE NWA. THE MIDWEST HAD BONES THUGS. THESE ARE ALL CLASSIC GROUPS THAT WILL LIVE ON IN HIP-HOP. A HIT SONG DOESN'T FORGE A MARK IN HISTORY LONGEVITY DOES. AND 5 YRS. FROM NOW AFTER PEOPLE WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE I WANT THEM TO ASK WHERE IS D4L, FRANCHISE BOYS, MIKE JONES, ETC. PROBABLY FILING FOR BANKRUPTCY.

Posted by: LostStar718@yahoo/hotmail/aim at January 20, 2006 12:08 AM

Whats hood? Word B-Easy thats some true funny shit dog.They be wantin to hop on all the other regions shit westcoast,midwest just to go aganist one state.Niggas is weak.They know damn well they dont give a fuck about the midwest or westcoast frontin ass niggas lol.I aint know they need that much niggas on they team to go against us.
--->"i tell ya the funniest shit i hear was wen southerner b sayin "fuck ny south midwest west coast stand up we gosta unite to fight the war on ny mayne"<<---lmao word b-easy.Last time I checked this wasnt no civil war they be mad lol.Lost star u the truth but some of them on 106 and park so they going down in history (insert sarcasm here) lol.Where yall from?Change the subject cause these niggas aint worth shitting on unless they talking shit.Talk shit,get shitted on.Early.

Posted by: Mic fiend at January 20, 2006 07:51 AM

Yall spittin real shit.Yea but lets change the subject like ol dude said these niggas aint worth shitting on unless they talk shit.Im from East New York nigga.

Posted by: Cascade at January 20, 2006 08:33 AM

SOUTHERN RAP IS DESTROYING HIP-HOP! POINT BLANK PERIOD. ITS TRUE EVERY REGION OF THE COUNTRY HAD THEIR TIME TO SHINE. THE EAST, THE WEST, THE MIDWEST, AND NOW THE SOUTH. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EVERY OTHER REGION AND THE SOUTH IS THE EAST AND WEST PUT OUT GOOD, QUALITY MUSIC THAT YOU CAN LISTEN TO FOR YEARS TO COME. THE SOUTH IS HIP-HOP AT ITS MOST BASIC FORM, CLUB SONG AFTER CLUB SONG, SHAKE YA ASS BITCH I'M A PIMP. ITS GETTING REDICULOUS. WHEN THE EAST WAS ON TOP WE HAD RUFF RYDERS, ROCAFELLA. THE WEST HAD SNOOP, DRE NWA. THE MIDWEST HAD BONES THUGS. THESE ARE ALL CLASSIC GROUPS THAT WILL LIVE ON IN HIP-HOP. A HIT SONG DOESN'T FORGE A MARK IN HISTORY LONGEVITY DOES. AND 5 YRS. FROM NOW AFTER PEOPLE WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE I WANT THEM TO ASK WHERE IS D4L, FRANCHISE BOYS, MIKE JONES, ETC. PROBABLY FILING FOR BANKRUPTCY.

Posted by: LostStar718@yahoo/hotmail/aim at January 20, 2006 05:03 PM

Unfortunately, all of y'all are right! Hip-hop in general is irrelevant and growing more and more ignorant everyday. Its only more magnified when it comes from the East coast or "New York" because those artist were always considered superior and cutting edge and were setting the standard for what was acceptable in hip-hop. But that isn't the case anymore. NY cats used to claim that other regions music was sub par and that dudes didn't have any flow or lyrical content. But with so many heavyweights all over you can't paint everybody with the same brush anymore. But in the same breath, the talent, the new sounds and energy that we've come to expect from East coast or "NY" artist just hasn't been there and all of the regions that have been getting hated on for the past 20 years are giving it back. A real lyricst from Alabama had to fight and struggle for acceptance in his own hometown because he sounds different and isn't accepted in other markets because of where he's from. But this same dude got turn on his radio or tv and see Jim Jones dropping all kinds of albums and doing features all over the place. That ain't right. We need to quit dividing each other and losing and win something together. Can you imagine the type of music that would come up if people weren't ignorant and stubborn and were open to new experiences. Maybe then the sleeping giant will wake up!

Posted by: 313rd at January 20, 2006 05:13 PM

Lobstar u dumb bitch, Bone thugs is from Cleveland Ohio, far from tha midwest

Posted by: Angry Skins Fan at January 21, 2006 07:26 AM

Fuck tha Seahawks, THe city, and all their fans

Posted by: Angry Skins Fan at January 21, 2006 07:49 AM

Ohio is the midwest Angry Skin...you're dumb as hell lol.

Posted by: King fuckin Kong at January 21, 2006 08:12 AM

Some childish shit going on around here. I'm a tell you one thing thats hard to beat. Regardless of who likes which coast or not, you can't deny that the game is in a chokehold right now. By who? Money. The market is flooded right now. Niggas hate on each other so much, clouded by the numerous mixtapes, dvds, collabos, posthumous cds, whatever to the point where we don't have to time to give another region the unbiased attention like in the old days when ny was the only state getting videos played on bet.

When are we going to get back to reality? Rappers have all these gullible ass niggas believing everything they say. Rap is truly a form of entertainment. Anybody arguing with that, is a crazy fan, like the asses that still believe in hulkamania and the wwe.

Posted by: schematics at January 21, 2006 01:29 PM

schematics thats real.

Posted by: the corner at January 22, 2006 09:10 AM

Lol....its too much shit to address in this blog!! Hip hop this hip hop that....greatest rapper this greatest rapper that!!!

Be real people!! Hip hop is as basic as it was back in the day....niggas are still talking about the same shit. Tell me how Rakim or Big Daddy Kane ain't brag about having a dookie chain or pushin a Saab with gold BBS's!!! Niggas was rappin about being fat and eating food...lol!! Niggas still do it till this day....its nothing new...thats what hip hop has always been about. Flossin and having a good time, while every now again you get some concious issues thrown in. The shit is the same, just coming off in different deliveries. The majority of niggas from up north or elsewhere don't like the way the south delivers the message...why? Maybe because its straight forward and blunt and you don't have to sit and think about it. I mean even when it comes to diss tracks, its the same...north does it subliminally the MAJORITY of the time. The south, a kat will just straight up call that individual out the MAJORITY of the time!!

Niggas talk about the greatest rapper and the most known rapper!! Think about it....what would consider someone to be the greatest rapper? Somone whose been in the game for a minute...someone with lyricism...someone who has appealed to both genders...someone who is in the spotlight constantly? Its only one nigga I can think of who can be applied to all those questions and I know niggas is gonna hate this one....but LL Cool J should be considered the G.O.A.T!! Nigga has been around since this hip hop shit first started almost....has dropped 10 albums....successful movie/tv star...battled in historical beefs...and you can say what you want to, although he appeals to the ladies more now, the nigga was nice on the mic but after "I Need Love", he lost his "G" card pretty much...I still bet the majority of kats won't test him....most importantly, like someone said about Biggie, that nigga has respect!!!

Now pardon me, I had to laugh at that!!

Posted by: going back at January 22, 2006 06:49 PM

Why is that northern kats forget that they have garbage ass rappers like everywhere else. Please tell me, PLEASE, what the hell is soooooo good about Dipset? 40 Cal is an exception. Ain't shit good about what them boys talking about!!! I can go down a label's roster, mainly Rocafella (this is including State Prop as well) with the exception of Jay and Beans and maybe, maybe Freeyway! Do I need to name everyone in Terror Squad? G-Unit, the intial members I can deal with minus Tony Yayo, but the new acts are garbage too, why, cause they been in the game damn near almost 10 years. The problem is, obviously "new" kats can't get into the game and I don't know why? Let me hear Papoose, Saigon, Tru Life, JR Writer, J Hood, etc...niggas up north don't want to sit down and sit back in this game. Help these young niggas get off the mixtape circut and into the mainstream. But the blame gets placed on the south cause thats not what people are wanting to hear right now, or maybe it is, but I can't tell!!!

Posted by: adsa at January 22, 2006 07:12 PM

YALL NY NIGGAZ PIST. AINT NO NIGGA SOLD A RECORD FROM THE NY IN 3 YEARS. HAHA. CHUCK THAT SHIT UP. THAT MIXTAPE PAPOOSE SHIT AINT RAW NIGGA. THA BITCHES CAN'T DANCE TO A FUCKIN SAMPLE BEAT IN THA CLUB. HATIN ASS NIGGAZ. YALL BITCHES IS LOVIN THEM NIGGAZ WIT CHEVEYS ON 24 S AND GRILLS AND THAY LOVE TO SIP BARRE. NIGGAZ PUT SOME HEADPHONES ON. AND SOME TIMS AND HOODIES OR SOMETHIN NIGGA. SOUTHSIDE STILL HOLIN FUCK BOYS. WE MOVIN RECORDS LIKE A MOTHAFUCKA. YALL NIGGAZ CAN'T STAND IT.TOO BAD NIGGA WE GOT THA GAME WRAPED ROUND OUR FINGAZ. FUCK BOYS

Posted by: TEXAN G at January 23, 2006 04:21 AM

East Coast kats just getting a dose of their own shit. they hated on the West Coast ryders, they hated on the Southern Ballers. Now someone writes a column about their music and can't take it. It's all good though!!!!

Posted by: DWNSOUFBOI at January 23, 2006 06:37 AM

Cant take it?Yall the niggas thats mad in here in a new york blog that has nothing to do with the south, but yall in here anyway (Hmm, why is that?).Put us females to shame.Texas G and all yall other faggots (except the few that made sense and wasnt just popping shit cause they were mad) gossip and got more emotions than us females.Im not a "bitch" and actually I dont like them old ass shits no matter how much "candy paint" yall put on the shit (reminds me of my grandfather).Those were trends (minus the candy paint cause weather is different over here) here in the 70s and 80's even ...its 2006 now.But I dont have a problem with anybody from any region.

Posted by: Miss Brooklyn at January 23, 2006 08:41 AM

If any of yall dudes have problems with anybody just cause theyre from a different region of the same country...that shows how dumb,ignorant,gay you really are (and Im talking to every single one of yall whereever you'll from) and us females can dance to just about anything over here from almost any rap song to reggaeton,raggae,soca,calypso (we listen to mostly rap and caribbean music).How yall moving records when none of yall in this blog doing shit but typing on ya keyboards on a website like everybody else...what yall from the same region so u feel u put work into these albums too?None of you are rappers and aint making money off these niggas so wake up or shut up.Sound like groupies.Yall should be ashamed lol...salty because people think yall dont got lyrics or whatever the case is get over it, thats life instead of acting feminine tell your fav rapper to prove everybody wrong.I suppose yall are on yall periods....Im glad I dont live down there IF all the dudes down there are like yall (a lot of my family is from the south living up here and they act nothing like that.I guess its a personal thing).So its the northeast fault that the media aint want shit to do with yall music until now thats why yall so mad? and now everybodys starting to not want anything to do with it again as you see I dont know why, but hey blame that on the media and the machine.The west is coming back after they were nearly extinct for years and the northeast is too...I think thats why yall mad at us, but I like all kinds of music so Im not as emotional about this as ya'll guys are, but Im wondering why yall mad at the northeast when these female rappers should be mad at yall niggas for not supporting them like yall faggots support yall men (that yall love so much) and yall diss female rappers, calling females "ho's/bitches" (and some ignorant females still buy the shit) but yall mad at the northeast? "niggas" please.Find something else to use as an excuse as to why yall mad cause using the northeast, eastcoast as an excuse is getting old and played out.

Posted by: Miss Brooklyn at January 23, 2006 08:49 AM

Notice why Miss Brooklyn discriminates:

Y’all know what? New York hip-hop critics use the word “lyrically” the same way the Bush campaign and republicans use the word “moral values”. What the hell does it mean?!!! I’ll tell you what it means. Just as the term “moral values” means not being gay and not for gay rights or abortion rights, the word “lyrically” means being from New York.

Posted by: Southern Perspective at January 23, 2006 09:47 AM

Miss Brooklyn:

You don't like when women are called "bitches" so how do you think gay people feel when you use the word 'FAG"

Posted by: Southern Perspective at January 23, 2006 09:59 AM

Because thats how you guys' are acting.How is that discriminating?If u didnt notice I was talking about EVERY single guy in here acting feminine and if you guys want to act like that, thats what you'll be called.I dont see it otherwise.I didnt see any females acting like "bitches" whatever that is and u guys are calling each other fags all up and through this blog anyway.

Posted by: Miss Brooklyn at January 23, 2006 10:14 AM

Thats funny, east coast rap does matter or is Irrelevant, which means unimportant right? So i guess 99'inch rims and sloppy-grammer skills are. Thats funny tho.

The truth is this....Rap music itself is irrelevant. Especality gangsta rap. I think that is a fair statement. Lets review some rap topics from all coast:

Drugs- We brag about selling drugs in our hoods to the same people who help raise us since we were young. We sell crack to the lady or man 3 houses over. we sell crack to miss jones so we can buy Jordans and watch her family crumble. Then when rappers are put on blast...they wanna sound all innocent, "I don't promote selling drugz" bullshit, with lyrics like" I slang rocks so i can purchase gucci socks" c'mon man you can't defend that.

Rap videos- Why don't you ever see those beautiful exotic women in the ghetto but you see them in the ghetto on rap video stacking up work? hmmmm? we all know what real project chicks look like. they ain't that pretty.

Violence- I head Russell Simmons once try and defend rap music as a whole and the nigga did not make any fucking sense. He said rap music is not about violence or rap music is not violent....Negro please! 95% of rap music is violent. you can't defend this shit anymore. I don't care where your from.

Misleading- This is the biggest factor in the bullshit of rap music, the misleading aspect. Rappers praise shit that is not even important and make the important shit seem unimportant. Whats worst is that the kidz are believing this shit. Rappers say " oh, i'm not trying to be a role model....i don't want kids hearing my music its for adults only" please, how old were you people when you started listining to rap? 6 or 7 years old probabbly. These rappers are asked questions on how old were they when they started listening to rap and they always give a childish age. Negro please, don't say your music is for adults when you know damn well kidz are listenig to it and you listened to it when u were 6.

In XXL Young Cheesy trys to defend his snowman image. Saying in a interview it means just a normal hustler, when WE know its about selling crack. If you walked up on cheesy and told him you were a hard-working hustler doing weird jobs he would probabbly laugh at you. If you told him you be selling that weight, you'll get a pat on the back.

The white man- Please, enough is enough. I can walk in a white neighorhood fine....but a black one, i gotta watch my back every two minutes. A white person has never stole shit from me but niggaz have. I have never hear the streets talk about white boys spraying niggaz down with AK-47's. Its 2006 and i bet niggaz will still blame whites for not having anything. " Oh, white people don't care about the hood!" why should they? America is about business. What great joy does a white man gain from the ghetto? Why should he invested time and money in the hood. If some niggaz win the lottery them niggaz are gonna buy a mansion and a thousand cars and go on trips. they ain't trying to rebuilt the hood. They might put in a jungle-gym or playground for the kids...maybe a basketball court and thats it. Niggaz when giving the chance would live their life just like the white man.

Racial Profiling- Please, is their even such a thing. If the cops stop a nigga in a crime-infested black hood and say "You match or are simliar to a discription" thats realistic. black crime is in black communtities. Are their asian gangstaz doing drive-bys on niggaz almost daily in a black hood? No, but niggaz are doing it. Niggaz don't travel way across the city to commit all their crimes in a white community then come back to the ghetto to live in peace. Their is no such thing as racial profiling the way that most niggaz think it is. Its based off of satistics. In this community over the span of a year, 60 crimes were commited, out of those 60 crimes 57 were from african-americans. Witnesses to most of those crimes were african-american and those witnesses reported that other african-american commited those crimes.

Like i said nobody is killing niggaz but niggaz

Media-Please, when something goes wrong rappers blame the media. Y'all remember the tupac media speech, the " I'm a thug because i'm still here" that was bullshit. How you present yourself is how the world will in most cases treat you. Tupac was cool as a artist but as a man, he contracdicted himself almost daily!!!!!

Police-Police are pretty much cool with black men but they hate niggaz. Any real professional blackman would hate niggaz too! Niggaz ready to blame police but when a niggaz calls a cop a "bitch" then the cop punches the niggaz's grill out....the cop is wrong. How? If a nigga called another nigga a bitch and gets his grill knocked out its cool or normal. When i was in the millitary, them lil'gangsta teenagers would come on base to go to the E-club. They forget where they at, and bring that hood shit them they trying to toy with the MPs. The MPs would always beat the shit out of them young boys and have them niggaz runnin' and screamin out the gate! We black millitary members would sit outside the club and watch these "hood-niggaz" get fucked up! MCAS MIRAMAR-ask around, them gangbangers think MPs are regular police. I seen how them MPs train. They jump each other with bats and teach each other how to fight a gang of niggaz at once!


In short Rap music is irrelevant to real important issues of the world, its is also very misleading.


MC Katrina STILL washing niggaz away in the 06.

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Posted by: t_hova at February 7, 2006 04:02 PM

Man I've read alot of you all's comments and... wow lol. I can't believe black people from the same country beefin against each other. I thought this was just a blog of debation. I don't like EVERYTHING that comes out of the South either but I do know that the South deserves its shine indeed. The South is just different from all the other coasts. Our music is so unique because of our different dialect and slang that we use. I see the South holding it down for a LONG time to come. Maybe in the next 20 years, yall New Yorkers can finally come out with an mc to give Jay Z a break so he can lay back in the nursing home fa sho. Another thing, why do yall people keep talking about Biggie? The man has been dead for 10 years. Stop talking about him like he is fixin to come out with another album. That is over and done with. So now what? Who else is left in NY? There are SO many underground rappers down here that NO body knows about can give any lyrical cat slap to his face. Don't be mad... the south is in the house and can't NOBODY do nothing about it. Don't try to fight... just let it go shawty.

Posted by: untitled at March 17, 2006 08:30 AM

In my opinion the south is FALLING OFF. They get worse every day and people from all over are startin 2 realize how repetitive they getting and running outta shit 2 rap about. They wont last long the south blew up big in 2003 and still here in 2006. Thats 3 years they went be here for long and Ive got close sources, the industry is looking at a NEW hotspot for this year and especially NEXT YEAR. By next year the south isnt gonna be as big and this is the inside truth. They are marketing a new hot spot the south wont be as big but atlanta is gonna be out the picture and miami is gonna come up...houston is gonna fade. Miami is gonna be the only one really looked at this year and then the south is over. New York is gonna be a hot spot this year and especially next year, California is too...also Chicago and even a place that might surprise you is gonna be big later this year but I cant give yall the whole scoop just know u heard it from me 1st. The places I didnt name are gonna surprise the fuck outta you all. Shit, it surprised me when I was informed of it.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 17, 2006 07:38 PM

I forgot to let you all know that just because the south is falling off is not entirely the south's fault. It is but not entirely. The industry looks for ways to market a business. The south isnt provided the sales that are expected of them this day and time anymore so they've all made up their minds to market another region, other states, etc. The snap shit was gave a big push and paid for to get major play on video channels and radio stations and still havent sold a lot. They're main focus with the snap movement was to make big sales off of it and that hasnt happened yet. They cant afford to be as patient with it so The Hyphy movement is going to soon get a chance later this year and if sales dont pull through, then they're out of the picture too. Im from the Bay so I hope this pulls through but they're going to try to turn it into a damn gimmick and thats what pisses me off. I cant do anything about it though.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 17, 2006 07:44 PM

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