SOHH ATLANTA

hmm...
i dunno

WOW! Not shytting on Polow but damn if those are presets it kinda makes its hard to believe he's one of these 6figs a track type producers??? Sounded like the radio version, with some added snares and kick drum????

We all need to be reading "The Takeover: Everything You Need To Know About Business, by La'Foy Thomas III.

so what thats like sampling from a record! who cares there are a million people that have those sounds and no one else made the usher song! who gives a fuck! you know how many producers sample the demos that keyboards and programs come with! you should talk to swizz! lolol! get real!

True, he may have sampled the sound from garage band.. but last i checked..... doesn't Everybody sample Everything nowadays.

Its sad because he has a NEKO and a MPC. but hey, whatever works works.

Funny you post this gyant because just last week I heard the new rick ross song "riding thru the ghetto" off of the Trilla CD and I knew that I had heard the loops from somewhere. Being that Im a full time video editor and use a program called "Apple Soundtrack Pro" that comes with the Apple Final Cut Editing Software I decided to research my suspicion and VOLA! I found alll the loops to that song on soundtrack pro which was crazy to me. However after I looked up the song more I found out that that song was a itunes bonus track so I just came to the conclusion that maybe apple wanted them to use some tracks off of their programs to promote the software in exchange for them putting it on itunes or whatever since their both owned by apple. Im not saying this is the case with this situtation but who knows. BTW garage band uses almost all the same loops as soundtrack pro. something is going on with this though and I think its more than a coincidence, if not these producers are just as fake as these rappers now.

That doesn't look good but even if he just used stock sounds to create the beat that's nothing new Rza made the entire first Wu Tang album in his house. But will see what happens

Who cares if he found where the sounds came from...???

Funny you post this gyant because just last week I heard the new rick ross song "riding thru the ghetto" off of the Trilla CD and I knew that I had heard the loops from somewhere. Being that Im a full time video editor and use a program called "Apple Soundtrack Pro" that comes with the Apple Final Cut Editing Software I decided to research my suspicion and VOLA! I found alll the loops to that song on soundtrack pro which was crazy to me. However after I looked up the song more I found out that that song was a itunes bonus track so I just came to the conclusion that maybe apple wanted them to use some tracks off of their programs to promote the software in exchange for them putting it on itunes or whatever since their both owned by apple. Im not saying this is the case with this situtation but who knows. BTW garage band uses almost all the same loops as soundtrack pro. something is going on with this though and I think its more than a coincidence, if not these producers are just as fake as these rappers now.

SO WHAT?

If a nigga has the creativity to use stock fruity loops or garage band samples to make a hit, then wouldnt that VALIDATE his musical ear even more?
So what so what so what...this is garbage. another wack ass topic

Usher is the fool for paying whatever he paid for that track.

well doesn't surprise me these so called new breed "producers" suck anyways and are as lazy as a mug maybe he should stop leaking songs and start making real beats

I guess the days of sitting at a piano with just a drummer, tape recorder, & a mic are over. Advanced technology has put a lot of "producer's" in business. If what whiteboy is saying is true then it would be disppointing to know that P-Low was just that lazy with his efforts that he aint even try to do anything creative to justify his producer credit. But I also remember that not too long ago it was very popular to sample an entire song, add a deeper bass line, switch up the beat and throw in some vocal ooh's and ahh's....and those "producer's" was acting like they deserved the producer of the year award.

Polow uses stock sounds. The same as Kanye uses kicks and snares from classic records such as Mandrill and Marvin Gaye.

Music is cyclical, repetitive and also evolving at an alarming rate.

swizz= stock casio sounds

neptunes- stock asr-10 effects.

cheezy=stock classic blogging.

Oh yea, before the daily haters retort with fiction based hearsay..best i inform "yall" that i dabble and have a pretty decent catalog of engineering credits.So I know a thing or two about this "business."

blog on gyant, my brotha, blog on

no sohh the kid is right...thats a pre set sound..do yall homework...yall so bizzy chasing gossip you missing a true point anybody couldve made that beat and he gave it to Usher...leaked a beat that came with the instructions haha..since yall suck so much atl cock expose the nigga...or are yall mad a lil white boy beat yall to the real gossip?expose that nigga polow

yo....alot of niggaz online ..aspiring producers..recreate famous producers.....cant give this nigga full credibility....its not hard to recreate presets and synths etc

People who make beats on home computers are not producers, plain and simple.

"You the type to start a beef then run to the cops"

thats crazy my uncle was tellin me that he was messing around with garage band on his Mac on sat, and he said the exact same thing. I thought that he was playing around but I guess he wasn't. Apple put those on there for a reason tho, and You can tell that he added his own stuff to it, but it still trips u out a bit.

wow, you southern niggas amaze me. even the producers are talentless.

to the person who says people who makes music on home computers are not producers...who the fuck gave a rule sayin that...a producer is some1 whos makes the beat and is there for the cre3ation of a record and there are plenty of record created greatly from home producers..and in polow's defence.....the difference between what he did..is sample something that dont require clearance....its wrong to sample from apple...but u can sample marvin gaye.....people need to think on some real shit,...and a average producer prolly woulda skipped over those samples and missed the oppertunity to make a hit...u dig?

This has happened before. "Patron" from Young Joc uses a Reason Preset. Dre used a Roland preview preset on a beat before. Shit happens all the time. It's not that serious. This kid sounds like a hater. Even if you realize this, you gonna make a video though? I don't see how he gains from this but whatever.

The thing thats disapointing about this is that an aspiring beat maker (not a producer) may look up to these "producers", thinking that they have the creative geniousness to create a catchy melody from scratch and compose a dope ass beat, but in reality they "produced" (took a premade melody, added some drums, paid instrumentalist to play piano, bass, strings ect) a dope song, like their credit gives them. I guess it's not how the beat is made but how the "producer" states the beat was made. Sampling is kool but don't act like your an instrumentalist. Plus Polow got ghost producers (had to add the hate)...and that FACT. 1
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"Preception is 100% reality, 0 % explanation"

I could care less, just lets me know that I can cook up a dope track if I layer presets. LET'S GET IT!!!

Someone nailed it when they said "nuthin' new"....any producer who's ever sampled from a library CD/DVD knows the deal. Just like using a beat from Spectrasonics Stylus - they pop up all over the place in movies, commercials, games, and radio. The same cat who found these samples would've also found the exact drumloop from "Umbrella" in there. That's old news, people. In a way, it makes Polow look even more intelligent because he found a way to use something that millions of people had in their hands to make mega$$$ for himself instead of making a YouTube video in his dorm. A lot of us had the same basketballs as kids, just like MJ, KG, Lebron and Kobe. We had the same tools in our hands, but only a few went on to become superstars. It ain't about what you have -its what you do with it. Real talk.

....and one more thing - how happy is Apple right now, knowing their stuff is hit-worthy out tha box?!!!

Is dude mad that Polow thought of it first?? It's gonna take more than just ONE beat to question someone's producing skills..It's the same as listening to a record and sampling it...i dont see what the big deal is

It's slack on Polow's behalf, he had to know someone was gonna catch on.... maybe Apple do have deals with producers to use their samples as a form of promotion.... sh*t.... You hear stock Reason drum kits so often.... Does anyone know if it's true that Polow didn't actually produce Rich Boy's "Throw Some D's"?? Not that it matters, Polow is definitely doing his thing regardless... I think it's good that alot of producers are helping each other these days, as long as people are getting broke off dollars and credited for their work I think it's good for music overall.

Gus

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Alot of you cats seem to be cutting Polow down when you should really be respecting the nigga ear. Producing aint just about making beats, its about hearing sounds and knowing what sounds good which this is a clear case of. I bet millions of people have that program, yet Polow was the only one to turn THAT into a hit? Props to my nigga for finding the gold mine before the rest of the niggas who use that program did. Don't hate on him or call him talent less or whatever because he killed that beat whether it was a preset or not. Don't forget that you still gotta arrange that shit, add snares kicks and all kinds of other shit. That nigga probably just grabbed 6 figures from a preset. Who wouldn't want to do that shit.

But lets remember that had this been DJ so and so from the basement around the block that made that beat no one would give a damn. But seeing as to how its a popular nigga like Polow people wanna trip.

Well shoot don't knock it. My nephew has a similiar computer program that he produces tracks from and they are extremely hot. I guess he can really become a producer too. Once these producers stopped using live instruments I guess they would be doing something like this. They are not very creative and certainly not gifted.

YEAH if I were Usher i wouldn't feel good about paying thousands of bucks for something i could of gotten for free off of the mac computer, he didn't even have to blend anything, that tune is already up there pre made, all he did is find a sucker to buy it

I understand where he's coming from. It is kinda a surprise that he used a preset loop, but producers basically take loops from an old song and put bass and drums over it. The only difference that he did not sample a record but took a sample from a program. If it is so easy to make a hit why didn't any of yall make a hit with the same program? lol....Anyone can remake a song that was already made. Polow has grinded and made thousands of songs where he put a lot more work into than this one. A Producers name is more of what sells the beats from them griding getting known and making hits and making quality records overall than just 1 record that they make. So it is not always fair to us, but to get where he is and marketing himself to get in contact with superstars.

While we are on the topic of "Producers", i am going to take out the time to say, that i just produced a loud ass FART!!!

Word! WHO GIVES A SHIT?

YOU pick ANOTHER preset & make a hit like that...

I wasn't paying attention, I was too busy looking at the Louie bags behind him...

if polow is a genious for observing tha loops, then who made them is the question? that person should be tha real star.

what are the names of the presets?...just downloaded all of them and i don't here them on here...

Yeah that is from garage band
also

keisha coles (i should have cheated)

and rhannas umbrella .... all loops it's still hot music tho... but polo should not talk about how great he is when he cant play a lick........

oh yeah T-pain makes all his beats from Logic and garageband for those how want to know

WHO GIVES A FUCK.....he put em together first. Taking stock sounds is not against the producing rules.....He put it together in whatever way he did, if they weren't stock, they would still be manufactured sounds from a technical machine.....

Here's a suggestion, why don't you take the stock sounds and make a damn beat, but now since Polow made that one to sound that way, you have to take those sounds and make them into something different....then sell it......

Hey, I bet he used em, but thats what producers do... we hear somethin, come up with an idea for it, and use it. Not everything is original as it seems... propz to Polow, I probably would did somethin like that... lol!!!

any old person can buy all the equipment they want...but 1 things for sure that equipment aint gonna play itself....i have a camcorder and dvd editing program and so does a friend of mine but his product cant compare to what im able to do....equipment is one thing ...creativity is another...having an mpc doesnt make u a production god..the talent does

There is something called "Royalty Free" and that makes it fair game, so who gives a rats ass. He didn't do anything illegal.

It's all about the way you build the track. Everybody not gone build it the same way. If he can make a hit wit GarageBand or Fruity Loops, all I gotta say is get yo paper Polow and tell these haters to kiss yo ass!

why does it matter how he made the beat? people use loops all the time.

My brother and I use Logic Pro to make beats...and YES THAT IS AN APPLE LOOP. We acutally used it 1 month before the record hit the radio..i have the file dated and all..I guess it dont really matter tho, it takes much more than just finding a loop to make a sick beat..Anybody who makes real beats would say the same. I still respect his hustle and beats.

he is not lying and no that is not like sampling from a song im a producer most of us make our own sounds from oscillator tones and shit that nigga is garbage for dat shit. and garage band aint even a top program that shit is for people who dont know how to produce yet or do post production. Fullsail.com

Y'all cats is wild-ding!!!! So the hell what that shit came from Garageband, I make beats in Garageband too..... Is that supposed to make him any less of a producer???? Y'all forgetting that homie had to be SMART enough to sit down and say, "Hey, this loop right here, I could use this in a beat, and that shit would be hot!!!!.....", add the drums behind it, add the bassline, sync it all up..... in short, there's more to buying a beat than just what the beat is made of. If you an artist purchasing a beat, that's like taking your car to get an oil change. I could go to AutoZone and cop a filter for a dub and change my own damn oil, but that don't mean I wanna do that shit. That's for niggaz sayin Polow fluke or Usher dumb for buying that..... When you buy beats, you aint buying the work that went into making the beat, you buying the possibility that the beat can get you a hit song (or be filler on the album, basically you buying the purpose of the beat) based on the sound of it and how big the producer is that made it. Ex.: Timbaland can sell a beat for 500,000 becuz you almost 99% of the time gonna get a hit song from him, but if John McCain selling beats, nobody gon pay him that much because he aint a A-list beat maker, so he gon have to settle at a minimal price like 1000 or so. But that video is straight haterade to the nth power. And what makes it even worse is you have some computer nerd White kid trying to knock Polow like he could've known to put those 2 Apple loops together out of a possible 10,000 preset loops on Garageband and made the beat...... that was just Kindergarten math, I'm just playing around in Garageband and, OOPS I found Polow's beat!!!! Ok so what if he got a MPC, it's his perrogative what equipment he wanna use to make whatever beats. I aint seen an MPC, Mac, Triton, etc. yet that comes with a contract that says, "Now that you've bought this_____, you must use it to make every beat you ever make...." Y'all need to leave that man alone and let him get his money if he getting 6 digits. That just means we all got work to do. EASY

Anyone in any creative field can use anything that they hear to make success just as a producer hears rain drops and puts that on a track its no difference see alot of up and coming producers may be mad @ this but why? cause the ysittin down @ the piano thinking to hard and strugglin to make a hit instead of using whats given to them...If POLO did not make the track @ all the preset sounds would be up for grabs but new producers probably would not have even used it...Stop hating cause he heard it and saw that it could be used for a hit record...Spend ya time going through some of the other presets and see what u can do to gain some attention for yourself..I am an artist and CEO of my lable and if u want to win in this business it would be best for u to utilize what u see people doing to your advantage..not bitching in the background..the whole time any new producer is posting comments here and talking shit u could be finding your preset recorded hit!!!!! TIGHTEN UP!!!!!! GET MONEY!!! DO YOU!!!!

So What!!! So What !!!

He Sampled the sounds off of your little cheesy "Garage Band Program" and made a Million Dollars.

Dont you feel STUPID!!! With your G-Mac.

Polow uses a workstation called Meko for you Apple heads.$3k +

I know Polow, ive been in his Studio many times.

********STOP HATING********

So the fuck what? Anyone who uses any synthesizers which aren't custom made for em falls under the same category. Experienced engineers (I've worked with ppl 15+ years in the biz) can tell what synth and preset was used for most beats and how it was tweaked with about 85-90% accuracy.

So use live instruments then oh no but its the same guitar as this other guy has so what?

This really aint that big of a deal. Some of the hottest beats in hiphop are the simplest ones ("Grinding" by the Neptunes anyone?) Plus, if making hit songs were so easy, how come dude aint using it to bank millions? U can have all the tools in the world available to you, but if u don't have the right ideas, they're useless.

hey dont knock the man hustle! He should just keep in mind that EVERYthing you do in the dark comes to the light. so if that is wat he's doin it'll come out!

hey dont knock the man hustle! He should just keep in mind that EVERYthing you do in the dark comes to the light. so if that is wat he's doin it'll come out!

I do not understand what the big deal is. The purpose of the loops and sounds located in DAWs and stand alone equipment is to be used in musical works. Do you know how many songs on the radio are using royalty free loops? It is a gazzillion dollar business!!! Just look at www.bigfishaudio.com. They have been around for YEARS and are STILL making a killing. I have come across loops used on Destiny's Child, G-Unit, Game, Christina Aguilera and Ashanti. Just to name a few. Just because you use a loop doesn't mean you are disgraced. Remember, you still have to take that loop and create a hit song out of it. I have heard these same loops used by other producers and they weren't really tight at all. Sequences were off, incorrect drum sounds and patterns were used, the accompanying sounds did not match the feel of the record. Using a loop or DAW sound is the same as sampling to me. You find something you need and build on it. This whole thing is really trivial and I wouldn't be surprised if Apple themselves had something to do with this video clip. Why this guy is so excited to expose this loop is beyond me. If he was really a music listener (or producer for that matter), he would have heard producers using loops over 6 years ago! IT IS OLD NEWS!!!! Get over it! To everyone on the blog...Hope all is well and stay blessed always. Sincerely, Pri the Honeydark....female producer/emcee

The loops Polow used are from an apple music program called garageband, even though the only originality Polow used in the song is the drum pattern. I know a lot of people are saying well who cares he was able to make a hit song with those simple sounds. I agree with that but, if any random person making beats used that same loops and made that beat, he would never get the recognition that Polow did. Polow has a responsibility to perform and produce originality in his productions, not using stock loops.

"A lot of us had the same basketballs as kids, just like MJ, KG, Lebron and Kobe. We had the same tools in our hands, but only a few went on to become superstars. It ain't about what you have -its what you do with it. Real talk. "

^^^ Can't agree with you enough my friend! shame others don't see it like that huh?

SHOP WIT ME.

I got GB but aint found tha sound but if its tru he's a pusse......

1.. Shows Da Don aint got originality.

2. Shows how easy a beat can B made...

3 I unst3rstand its still hott but Producers R musicians NOT sampl3rs!!!!!