Posted on June 26, 2007 12:01 AM

What’s up Everybody,
Can I ask you guys a serious question…SERIOUSLY? Would you rather have a good rap song that’s rich in lyrical content, and no flashy materialism, or the other way around?
I think we can all agree that hip-hop is in the toilet these days. But it seems that every single video that I watch is becoming as generic and uninspiring as the next.
And this one is no different….
In Yung Jock’s new video he’s taken a queue from Outkast with the bright colors and that thing that Outkast does.
I don’t think the video is bad, but I am not so sure about the message in the song; oh waitâ€"there's probably not a message. What the hell is the coffee shop, is it a metaphor that’s just not registering, or is it a building that actually sells coffee? Am I looking into it too deep?
I’m sure one of you will take the time to explain it to me.
But I do need for somebody to let the white boy know that he need not dance! It only makes him look insanely corny. I’m just kidding Drama â€" relax!
Video for Yung Joc's new single "Coffee Shop" off the album Hustlenomics is due out August 28.
Talk to y’all lata,
SoHH Gyant
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i like this song, song was overedited in this video tho and the vidoe str8. oh can someone tell me why my nigga TIP dont work wit toomp no mo? they beefin? id like a real answer too not made up bullshit, cuz i heard TIP cd was garbage cuz toomp wasnt on there, i havent listened to the leak yet.
What's always the problem with rappers and their producers....MONEY!!!!
Apparently T.I. didnt want to pay homeboy.
Thats what the streetz are saying.
oh and who really won the fight with him and chaka?
Toomp only had one song on T.I.'s KING album. He gave Just Blaze 4 tracks and Swizz Beats two. Toomp's song one him a grammy. Toomp is from Atlanta and he gave them NYC niggas all the tracks. That nigga Clifford is a fraud.The real deal with TIP and Toomp is T.I. real name Clifford has forgot where he came from. And the nigga is from Riverdale not Bankhead, get it str8. His biggest songs have been with toomp because Toomp created his sound. Clifford get off the drugs dumby, you are turning into Lindsay Lohan right on camera. Tell ya publicist to read this to you.
Toomp only had one song on T.I.'s KING album. He gave Just Blaze 4 tracks and Swizz Beats two. Toomp's song won him a grammy. Toomp is from Atlanta and he gave them NYC niggas all the tracks. That nigga Clifford is a fraud.The real deal with TIP and Toomp is T.I. real name Clifford has forgot where he came from. And the nigga is from Riverdale not Bankhead, get it str8. His biggest songs have been with toomp because Toomp created his sound. Clifford get off the drugs dumby, you are turning into Lindsay Lohan right on camera. Tell ya publicist to read this to you.
1st that shit is a bite off off his old producer's (Nitti) sound....2nd how this nigga gonna use a metaphor for a trap house call it the Coffee shop, then put on some costumes and market this shit to kids...like the public is that dumb...ohh my bad Gyant...not talkin about u...but that shit is wack...video is tight but by trying to water down what dude is rappin about makes it wack...
I'm a NY nigga and even i know that toomp had more than 1 song on KING.Check the credits homie..I havent really listened to the whole album,but i know toomp did "Bankhead" too
this made me wanna throw up. this is straight GARBAGE. Joc is terrible and this video is very cookie cutter and coonish. FUCK Joc. Throw up the Roc
Well at least its better than his like 2 singles lol. The song isn't that impressive unless its accompanied by the video and speakin of the video...whaz up wit this nigga's hair??? Lol.
Oh yeah it'll be poppin I'm sure becuz the young masses love to be bullshitted with fuckery & ringtone rappers lol. I think we should take cell phones away from anyone under 18...maybe that would slow down this foolishness...tho THIS Joc video aint that bad.
this is the reason why I don't listen to rap that much anymore, I miss the old school days when hip-hop before it can rap was more original and worth your listening pleasure.....everything these South rappers say is so damn empty, corny, trite, boring, even West coast rap is in the same sounds rut (gangsta bullshit rap, OG crap, murder, death kill what set you claim bullshit).....yes, I will take lyrical skills anyday over this bullshit....this is why I can't wait for the Wu's 8 Diagrams to drop!! and for EPMD to make another album.....even DasEFX is coming back with an album....gimme hip-hop like that...not this buffoonery!!!
Thats what the streetz are saying.
Posted by: SOHH Gyant at June 26, 2007 12:46 AM
Truthfully in the early days of hiphop you had rappers making songs up with dances to them and all the fun shit is cool. But you got a lot of major issues still occuring in the hood. We need balance cuz if no one tells stories of the poverty stricken nieghborhoods we live in change will never happen. Im from Hartford, CT and im sure a lot of you dont know nothing about that area but its a small city with a big murder rate. There were 4 killings over this past weekend with many more to come. A 21 year old girl I went to Weaver High with got shot in the face while sitting in the car in her driveway. Her mom thought she was sleeping in the car until she walked up and saw her brains all over the place. Now depicting that story in a song in a real emotional touching way is what I perfer to make as opposed to leaning and rocking or the fake ass I blow your head off records. R.I.P Asha Grace!
If you want to here some great music from some artists who are making it happen in the Atlanta underground scene up along the east coast check out myspace.com/highcaliberent or
myspace.com/prophet860
Enjoy!!!
@Matt Herbz...
Where exactly is 3rd & Springs Streets.....I'll roll thur I see you fo' real!
See the difference with me is I don't wanna go back 2 the past & bring old rappers back, I want the game 2 elevate & put out better music! I'm all with change but I wanna hear shit thaz hot...this shit here aint hot! Its ignorant...not Joc specifically but there others MUCH worse than this....just a warning 2 all yall the ignorance bar is about to be raised! TRUST
Okay here's my best guess is the coffee shop a play on making "Star Bucks" as in alotta money?
Heres' what joc says at this interview: http://www.djbooth.net/index/interviews/entry/yung-joc-interview-060107/
"We’re not selling drugs; we just sell any and everything out the coffee shop: from cars, to clothes, to shoes, to jewelry – I mean, you can get your hair cut at the coffee shop."
Personally I like it... its entertaining and different.. the jingle is catchy. He'll sell alot of ringtones on this one.. but he needs a single that either speaks to the ladies or a club banger to get the ladies attention if he hopes to sell albums.. well see.
Truthfully in the early days of hiphop you had rappers making songs up with dances to them and all the fun shit is cool. But you got a lot of major issues still occuring in the hood. We need balance cuz if no one tells stories of the poverty stricken nieghborhoods we live in change will never happen. Im from Hartford, CT and im sure a lot of you dont know nothing about that area but its a small city with a big murder rate. There were 4 killings over this past weekend with many more to come. A 21 year old girl I went to Weaver High with got shot in the face while sitting in the car in her driveway. Her mom thought she was sleeping in the car until she walked up and saw her brains all over the place. Now depicting that story in a song in a real emotional touching way is what I perfer to make as opposed to leaning and rocking or the fake ass I blow your head off records. R.I.P Asha Grace!
Posted by: Prophet at June 26, 2007 8:41 AM
@Fiyah.....
At this point in the rap game...I don't see rappers elevating to that level....I think rap is at it's peak, the "snap happy" "crunk" rap has flooded the airwaves.....you can even see in in these ringtones....which I think is the most ridiculous thing. I can't see paying4 dollars (I think that's what the y go for I guess) for her something for 10 sec....total waste of money to me....dudes with lyrics will never have a voice to the mainstream because their music is either "too real" for the white corporate bosses to relate to or they want to keep the young black youth at bay with coonin' and carrying on music.....I may be contradicting myself here a bit, bit rap should be open to everyone, meaning underground artist and lyrical artist should get just as much promotion and label pushing as much as these "happy/party" rappers get......its a shame because in the past....hardcore/lyrical/conscious rap was such a pleasure to hear, I mean you had somewhat "happy/party" rap artist out back then too, but back then it was more of an individual thing and not mimicking/copying everyones....there are too many "cookie-cut" rappers out....the industry is flooded with too many rappers, that's the problem..>EVERYONE wants to get on.....see back in the days you where kinda "spoon feed" hip-hop...you didn't have a shitload of artist coming with you with this or that....you had a select few...and another thing that is killing rap is mixtapes...YES I SAID IT MIXTAPES....there are soo many of those damn things, it takes the anticipation of a rappers album away....its too much music and you become immune to what they have to offer on an album.....that's why the mixtapes sounds better than the albums....they need to do away with mixtape or jut drop one and have people "beggin'" for more....I just got off track with this subject..LOL
@Matt Herbz...
Where exactly is 3rd & Springs Streets.....I'll roll thur I see you fo' real!
Posted by: Trizz at June 26, 2007 8:46 AM
Come on down lover, so I can butt-fuck you. You won't be able to shit for a week.
You don't know about the White Nigga Headquartes on 3rd & Spring Streets? Well, if you from Atlanta then you know my city is the 2007 version of San Francisco. And if you wanna find 3rd & Spring Street just follow a pack of Transvestites or flaming faggs. Ask ya boy MA$E the White Nigga movement!
--Matt Herbz--
President,
White Nigga Movement
@Fag Herbz...
Well you need to change you name to the White Honkey Faggot movement then if you sayin' it's the 07 version of San Fran...sorry dude...don't swing like that...you enjoy you White Lover Movement....you can chill with the rest of the batty boys!
That video is a hot damn mess.
It's about as hot as that garbage ass Hurricane Chris trash...
A BAY BAY!!
YES I SAID IT MIXTAPES....there are soo many of those damn things, it takes the anticipation of a rappers album away....its too much music and you become immune to what they have to offer on an album.....that's why the mixtapes sounds better than the albums....they need to do away with mixtape or jut drop one and have people "beggin'" for more.
I AGREE 100%
>>>>>>>>>>>SoHH Chicago
I said it yesterday on Breezy's wack blog and I'll say it today: I ain't mad at the song. And I can't explain why.
Cuz I don't like Joc, I read he grew up rich anyway, so I don't know why he would have to hustle. But sometimes I can't deny a catchy song, and this is one.
There used to be a balance between catchy songs and substance, but now its all crap, so pick the best crap, and roll with it! HipHopIzDed! So just listen to trappers and rappers.
The video ain't bad either. I only watched it once and my eyes fell out afterwards, but itz all good.
GooD MuSic still comin outta Chi...
his first cd was fly, what the hell is this coffe shop song, and its not a metaphore for one.
his first cd was fly,
Posted by: shawty at June 26, 2007 11:24 AM
What tha fuck is this shit!!!!!!....... These rap niggaz is corny and fuckin lames!!!..... If u think about it!! Good music aint really ever comin out tha south!! Just shit that will sell and bump!!!.... U can sell and bump shit and still spit hot shit!! It is possibile!!! Ex. "We Gone Make It" by Jada & Styles!!!..... Why!! by Jada!!!.... Sigel spit hot shit!!! Cassidy can make pop songs and still spit crack!!! South niggaz ab libs make they fuckin songz!!!! lol!!! This shit is gettin terrible!!! And im feelin sorry 4 T.I bc i had a feelin his shit was gonna b wake bc KING waz but after hearin a couple joints i thought it would b better but niggaz is trashin that shit on tha net!!! IDK? ima listen but if u aint comin wit that Urban Legend swag and Flow that nigga might have 2 go!!!..... This music shit is gettin wack!! They need 2 put real niggaz on!!! Example: Joell Ortiz!!! That nigga spit game is fuckin serious!! It takes u back 2 96!! real talk!! Go 2 his myspace or google dude!!!.... We need 2 stop supportin this bullshit that keeps comin out!!! real talk!!..... this shit makes nigga stupid!! on some real!!...... But did yall peep tha nd of tha video when jock said "kids please dont do drugs!!"..... Fuck Outta here!!!..... It aint no real niggaz n tha game!!! I mean they n but gets no love!! nas, jay, az, sigel, lox, joell ortiz, freeway, saigon, scarface, etc.... Niggaz that spit real shit!!! Paint a fuckin picture n front of my face!!!.. wit out tha video!!... Let me feel and relate 2 ur struggle!! help me go thru mines!!! ..... on some real!!! And if u gonna make dance joints or club joints talk about real shit!!!.... i hate when niggas step on my white ones or somethin!!!.... Fuck that it ladies night and they gettin n free u kno im there!!! Let a nigga relate 2 u nstead of poppin $500 shots and bottles n shit!! Bc u kno a bitch gettin jin and juice!! lol!!
Hey Fag Herbz I see your still popin at the keyboard tuff guy. When will you people at SOHH get rid of this fucker. I understand the freedom of speech amendment but this little fuck craker needs some kind of punishment. If I knew where he was I would beat him like a whore on Biscayne Blvd. Gyant do something instead of waisting our time on this blogg reading garbage posted up by this bitch. Fuck your white cracker movement and all your gay talk. Simp ass cracker. And by the way this video is pure crap at its finest. Im on strike. Im only listening to old school rap from 92 till 97 North, South, East, West. Thank you Young cock and the rest of you no talent rappers all over the country. At least I will be abble to listening to good hip-hop again like Cell Therapy or A S.W.A.T. healing Riutal by thwe Witchdocotr. By the way where the hell is he?
Cell Therapy is real. Its happening now. These souf cats need to go listen to that ish and start over b4 itz too late.
Damn, where is Witchdoctor?
If I knew where he was I would beat him like a whore on Biscayne Blvd.
Posted by: m at June 26, 2007 11:30 AM
Okay tough guy, you can come to the White Nigga Movement Headquarters on 3rd & Spring and get at me there. If you get lost on your way, jsut follow a group of tranny's
--Matt Herbz--
President,
White Nigga Movement
Witchdoctor....I do miss that album...
Bring Back Dugeon Fam.
Damn Yung Joc, just when I thought you couldn't get any worse, you prove me wrong with this coffee shop shit. This is some of the corniest, most ignorant shit I ever heard. Definately floppin. The Northside needs to hurry up and save Atlanta.
The Northside needs to hurry up and save Atlanta.
Posted by: O.B.G. at June 26, 2007 12:08 PM
So I guess it's true, the further south you go the dumber you get!
that what happen when we keep promoting wack ass south artist, like young joc. garbage music, that will be on 106 and park lol lol. tat tat tatted up. all that bull shit music, i heard someone from down south got a song called myspace. all bull shit.
Joc is a "Ringtone Rapper"
I like the song, and the video is pretty entertaining as well...that's my 2 cents...
I actually like Yung Joc. His flow is str8. But "coffee shop" is garbage. I only heard the beginning & that waz more than enuff. But WTF is the White Nigga Movement?!?! Can somebody please explain that 2 me? I kinda feel sorry 4 Tip's album leakin but he's so sure of himself i kinda don't because i don't know wat gives him the right considerin there waz only a few good songs on KING. But evrybody brace yourselfs 'cause when 50 drops 'Curtis', its all over. Cause my boy 50 is back 2 reclaim hiphop..... once again!!!!!!
HOW IN THE FUCK CAN YOU SAY THERE AINT NO GOOD MUSIC COME'N OUT THE SOUTH..TRUE ITS ALOT OF MAINSTREAM CORNY SHIT HERE TOO BUT IT ALOT OF REAL SHIT POP'N TOO! OH YEAH ,WHILE YOU BULL SHITT'N JADAKISS BIT THAT SONG CALLED WHY FROM A DOWN SOUTH NIGGA! COACH COGNAC OUTTA D-TOWN DID THAT 2YRS B4 HE DID & IT SOUNDED BETTER..DO YOUR RESEARCH!
@j gutta.....
Well maybe COACH COGNAC did...but no one hardly even knows that cat probably (especially if it was 2 years ago)...so it took a nigga from the East coast to bring the song out.....maybe it wasn't as good as you said....how come it didn't get no play then?
Yo Slum Lord, get your lame ass off this thread. I meant the northside of Atlanta, you jackass. Thats what happens when lame outta-town niggaz run their mouths about shit they know nothing about.
Coffee Shop = Trap House
Edited song = misinterpretation
Coffee Shop? What the.........! Looks like Puffy got his new sellout pet to replace Mase. Straight basuda! Can you teach him to dance now?
@ FAG HERBZ
This is truth talking to you, stop it now before you're banned. This is the REAL MATT HERBZ talking. I was banned by that gay nigga gyant for speaking too much truth and opposing his gayness. I am a martyr to the true white niggaz out there, but I have thousands of computers that are accessible to me so I won't go away...they tried to stop me but they CAN't!!. A
As far as the gay dude posting under my name, his name is Fag Herbz, he's been trying to fuck white niggaz since 98 but we shot him in both knee caps. Now he strolls around 3rd street and Spring begging for $5 blowjobs.
Any real nigga or white nigga knows that we is in Marietta, Cobb Parkway, come up here and ask ANYONE where to find us and you'll see. I'm posted at the white house, 38 degrees south of the Big Chicken.
Holla BACK!!!
MATT HERBZ
President and CEO of WHITE NIGGA MOVEMENT
p.s. White niggaz don't die, we multiply!
That whole movement sounds just lame is that other cracka ass Ghetto Revival bullshit....please have a nice warm cup of STFU.....don't no niggaz give a damn about the B-Rad Malibu Most Wanted bitch ass movement....only thing yall moving is yo gums Richie Cunningham ass bird!!.....stop with the lame ass hobby.
Trizz almost sounds like Trick
You a fag...
NEXT
@illegal1....
And your comeback was weak...NEXT!! Cornball ass bitch....you name fits your bleach drench white ass perfect....you are a fucken "herb"....fucken lame!
The unedited version of the song is decent
Video=certified dumpster juice
FYI: Coach Cognac isn't the only person in the world to do a "Why" like that (i've heard 2 others)... but the reason why Jadakiss' version stood out was because 1) he's a major label artist 2) he was actually talking about something other than the same old same old bullshit and 3) he can rap, coach cognac can't...
oh by the way, the coffee shop video is actually good... when you put it on mute. as for the song, ehhh.... at least it's not "wipe me down remix" or "a bay bay" (the worst songs of the year).
p.s. i'm from atlanta, so mess me with that "hatin on down south rap" shit... ludacris and andre are the best out here now (and andre isn't really trying)
I think this song makes the south look really bad. Like that Hurricane Chris song. Its pretty garbage. Joc, thanks for making us look bad at the time of need for the south to be on top. We are slowly losing our damn minds out here. Anybody ready for some Goodie MOB or Classic Outkast, UGK records? Cause the shit we are coming out with makes us look bad dude.
p.s. i'm from atlanta,
Posted by: ATB at June 26, 2007 2:32 PM
Cause the shit we are coming out with makes us look bad dude.
Posted by: Sammy Champagne at June 26, 2007 2:41 PM
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who sent you?
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WNM07
Damn, and niggaz said that I have too much time on my hands...
I didn't even waste the time to read all that shit. It got too homo after the first line.
--Matt Herbz--
President,
White Nigga Movement
Damn, and niggaz said that I have too much time on my hands...
I didn't even waste the time to read all that shit. It got too homo after the first line.
--Matt Herbz--
President,
White Nigga Movement
Posted by: Matt Herbz at June 26, 2007 3:30 PM
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Damn, and niggaz said that I have too much time on my hands...
I didn't even waste the time to read all that shit. It got too homo after the first line.
--Matt Herbz--
President,
White Nigga Movement
Posted by: Matt Herbz at June 26, 2007 3:30 PM
lol @ anyone who actually sat there and tried to read that gay post.
As soon as I seen the name "Mattz Herbz" at the top, I knew that the shit was going to be on some gay white nigga movement shit!!!
Posted by: WHITE NIGGA MOVEMENT = BUTT PIRATES at June 26, 2007 3:38 PM
100% Cosign
--Matt Herbz--
President,
White Nigga Movement
NY!!!!....why don't ya'll support your own peeps??? as big as NY is platinum sales should be no problem!
"Can I ask you guys a serious question…SERIOUSLY? Would you rather have a good rap song that’s rich in lyrical content, and no flashy materialism, or the other way around?"
thats a funny question coming from sohh as much ya'll hate! i've yet to see ya'll promote real hip hop albums that come out...Redman...KRS-ONE....
the original was bout cocaine, these arent the same lyrics, but hustle by any means
IF YOU WANT HERE LYRICS CHECK OUT
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i think its obvious that the whole song is talkin about sellin white. listen closely to wat he says like wen he says only cash no credit or check and then how he says hes servin it out a window (car window)
i have no desire to see the vid. the song is enough. what, does joc think we're so dumb that we the listeners don't know what the "coffee shop" is?
i have to commend him for being clever though. It has a catchy tune, so you know that seven year old kids are gonna rock this joint. they won't even know what the "coffee shop" is. That is the most f---ed up part. He's making it cool to sell coke. but the young'ns don't know that.
His new song is garbage. Straight doo doo.
Great....another drug anthem...this makes how many?
i pray to god somebody kills this fake a.ss f.aggot curtis
Posted by: g killa at June 27, 2007 8:53 AM
lol @ e thugs prayin to God
Coffee Shop is a reference to drugs like a crackhouse I guess.That's why Joc says 'Kids say no to drugs' at the end
gyant, gyant, gyant, ur ass is slow as a retarded kid stuck in quicksand waiting for santa claus on christmas day, the coffee shop is a codeword for a trap house, jeezus h christ gyant
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