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Is DTP Saying "Move Bi*tch Get Out The Way" To Def Jam, And Is Bobby V. In Serious Trouble??

Written by Gyant

Posted on June 20, 2007 11:38 AM

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Word on the streetz is that all the marketing efforts have been exhausted, and Bobby will not be getting a second single or video for his highly disappointing “Special Occasion”.

The album peaked at #3 but has fallen faster then a girl’s panties on prom night to #50 in only 5 weeks. To date the album has failed to receive a gold certification from the RIAA.

But wait..I'm also hearing there are more rumblings over at DTP…..

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Another rumor that’s having people buzzing is that DTP records may be saying “Move Bitch Get Out The Way” to Def Jam.

I’d love to clear the air on this one. Somebody over at DTP hit me up and clear the air so I can set the record straight.

Chaka, Portia reach out.

Talk to y’all lata,

--SoHH Gyant

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**It seems that y'all like playing games. Just so we are clear...I didnt make a comment in the comments section about DTP being whack or nothing like that. Unfourtunately our system does allow anyone to assume an identiy so someone is impersonating me.

As flattered as I am its also very reckless. And the comment has since been removed. But everybody wants to get mad when SoHH takes the comments section away. Just something to think about.

42 Comments

It doesnt matter what DTP does. Luda keeps spendin the promo money on his wack azz records that dont do shyt in the A Town. When the last time you heard from Fate, 1-20, any of those other cats. Luda needs some help on how to market his artist to the public. That last Luda cd sucked. Bobby Valentino will be back sellin clothes again very soon. FYI - he sounds like shyt outside the booth, its even funny when his fat azz tries to dance and sing at the same time. LOL

Fuck God, I'm first today bitches!!!

When the last time you heard from Fate, 1-20, any of those other cats. Luda needs some help on how to market his artist to the public.

Posted by: ATL RED at June 20, 2007 12:29 PM

Can you say these nigga's music will never see the light of day. Face it all these niggas will be remembered as Luda's back up dancers/ hype men. Papoose album will be out before these niggas LMAO

as bad as I-20's project did we'll prolly never hear from him again Bobby V. prolly told 3 or 4 times what he sold lol. all DTP albums flop with the exception of Chingy's one album so whaz the beef??

Goodie dumb ass, you thought you were 1st. God is always 1st, you will see!

why have you got a picture of so solid crew from the uk up?

lol..hahahaha that the so solid crew from london uk...wher i live...y do u have a pic of them up??thought this blog was about dtp record label lol.....

Why do you have that pic up? If this is true I hope that Luda puts his career on the back burner and be a real record executive. The line up over there is not that strong at all so they need all the help they can get.This needs to be a rumor.

msot of dtp artists are signed on def jam who is failing to market ALL its artists nowadays. its a label thing. im a huge luda fan and to me only bobby v luda palayz circle serius jones and field mob is of any solid talent to me. def jam spent lots of money promoting shit like fabolous and rihanna and let other artists in da dust. the same thing theyre doing to chrisste michele whose album is off da chain. and he most likely will flop. its a major issue. def jam also released anonymouse late and the video da same da d album released. how pathetic is that. it aint ludas job to amrket his artists really. its da marketing teams job. and da dep. of marketing at dtp and DEF JAM in particular NEEDS to b fired. real talk

I've been to about 8 concerts in which Luda was on the line-up. One was his own concert at my college, UAB. Everytime he has a concert he lets at least 2 of his artists or groups perform their OWN songs. He has his them featured on all of his cds. He puts out DTP albums and they have had mixtapes. So, HE supports his artists. So either the artists on DTP Records suck or the Marketing at DTP and Def Jam sucks. I personally think it is the marekting and the fact that some of the artists just aren't consistent enough.

Even though I'm steadily speaking on the issues I have with the site spreadin the hate...and not speaking on positivity, I definetly do not agree with Ron leaving.

The problem with the blogs was three fold as far as I could see it.

#1. You got bloggers stating un truths and promoting the mean, hateful spirit. With that said…think back, how many posts did you get from readers when you posted up the Shock G blog? How many thankful posts did you get when you posted up your other blogs with a positive spin on it? There is no balance.

#2. You got these people signing on with fake names, posting homo, racists, and just straight ignorance. Now, it’s one thing to have an opinion..but it’s another when you come on just to show your behind and act ignorant on the blog in order to try and destroy the blog and all the discussion on it. There needs to be a way for SOHH to ban the IPs based on straight ignorance and stupidity. And nobody should get this confused with someone speaking opinions...that is not what I'm talking about.

#3. The blog does not have any avenue dedicated to any positivity going on in the music, community...or anything else that is being done BY hip hop to contribute towards change.. I’ve said it before, and have said it again….we should have a SOHH Spiritual Blog.
And I ain't talkin about just having a Christian blog, but I'm talking about one where we could all spit down about the lyrics of the different beliefs...talk about how it affected us in a real way, and speak on how we believe that these lyrics on beliefs have potential to make positive change should people listen and learn.

My point with the spiritual blog, is that by claiming that there should not be no censorship…SOHH is being irresponsible by censoring the site from having such a blog. Create a balance…not just an atmosphere of disgust. There is NO REASON not to..unless SOHH is being controlled by someone , or something who does not have the best interest of the readers in mind. Then…like Ron, everyone should begin looking for a change.

That DigiPimp even deleted one of my comments. And in the comment all I did was post up information regarding Kurtis Blow’s tour, the Texas Holy Hip Hop awards, and a huge event here in San Antonio where we are hosting 14 of the hottest Christian Hip Hop underground artists in the country. And THIS after claiming he’s giving shine to the underground tryin to come up.

There is no balance. The problem wasn’t Ron Mexico or his blog. If you are gonna start censoring, you need to be more worried about consistency and equality and accuracy. Even though Ron and I had our discussions, we both had an understanding and there was a level of respect.

We need to work to change the spirit of garbage, and not suppress those who are products of it.

SOHH should holla at me!

CHRIST BLESS!
PZ

Crisette michelle sexier than a mutha...oh,and maybe if dtp had some hard hittin mixtapes out,they would get they spot wurr it sposed 2 be

its funny how everyone reads some stuff on the net, looks at a soundscan chart and now they are a fucking expert on the music industry. Everybody is so quick to write off an artist like Bobby who actually does have talent and made one of the better R&B releases this year and make it seem like its his fault it doesnt sell, as if he cant make music. If you people really would dig for your dirt and pay attention, you would realize that DefJam plays favorites with their artists, which is indicated by the numbers not the music. It is a widely known fact amongst the music community and industry folks in general that Bobby made a better album than Neyo, point blank. Bobby sings better as well, however take a look at the radio picture and who is getting their videos played and who is getting all that sponsorship money and who gets plastered all over TRL and you will see who the favorites are. These are things the label controls, you'd be a fool to think the labels don't shuck and jive to get who THEY want on the radio, bet and mtv! With songs like Soon as I get Home and Rearview on one album there is no way a label that gives a shit or knows what they are doing lets an artist with an album like Bobby's just keep tumbling. Def Jam is incompetent, you think they fired 40 people because they were doing a good job?

@ ATL Red how can you say Luda's records dont do shit in the A, when they are all over HOT and V103 as soon as they come out, Im just saying. If by don't do shit you mean you never hear them in Club Primetime, maybe you need to expand your paradigm brother cuz Luda did that two albums ago!

I hope DTP makes a good choice cause Grand Hustle might make em look a lil funny, anyway, Bobby's album IS better than Ne-yo's...

leave secular music and come to christ SOHH ATL

Just Look Up!

Today's Scripture

“I lift up my eyes to the hills-where does my help come from? My help comes from the LORD, the Maker of heaven and earth” Psalm 121:1-2 (NIV).

Today's Word from Joel and Victoria

There is one great solution to all of your problems. Just look up! When you look up and see the face of your heavenly Father, you'll realize that He loves you and wants to solve your problem for His glory. When you look around at your problems and your circumstances in the world, you get distracted and can't focus on the God-centered answer. The enemy is trying to keep you off balance. He does not want you to experience joy and the blessings of the Lord. But you don't have to listen to the enemy. Just look up, and you'll find the true Source of strength and godly counsel. If you're struggling or feeling confused today, change your focus.

A Prayer for Today

God, I know that looking to You will solve all of life's issues. Thank You for giving me the answers I need and for being my help in troubled times. In Jesus' Name. Amen.

PZ

rob I dont go to Primetime. You can catch me in Leopard Lounge, 112 (when it was open), Frequency, the first Friday location every month, DJangos, and Compound. I dont hear Luda shyt dude, and I even hit the Mark on tuesdays, his shyt aint to be found.
Hot 107.9 and V103? No sir, dont even lie for Luda like that, Gucci Mane, T.I. and Jeezy trump Luda shit 7 fold. Come on man, Im in the A all day, you aint just gonna post that bullshyt and think its gonna slide. If it was a way to check BDS spins, I would post that shyt. Dont lie to these people, DTP is azz.
The one hope they got is Field Mob.

ATL RED,

If Luda aint gotta single out, of course it isnt on the radio, my point is when the next batch of heat comes out you'll be shakin your ass to it, hearing ryan cameron, ateam, frank and wanda, the dark secret, greg st and even the wack ass dirty boyz playing it, so dont even front. Luda will always be in the A, especially if he's on your TV smart guy (Law and Order/Simpsons). Its bigger than the A playa, who the fuck wants to be Gucci Mane answer that question! And If we posted BDS spins you would see that "Anonymous" is still growing by the way.

LMAO ROB & ATL RED YALL BOTH SOUND LIKE BITCHES ARGUING OVER HOW MUCH SPINS LUDA GET. LMAO GAY ASS NIGGAZ!!!

Luda and Chaka need to wake up for real for real. Def Jam aint interested in nothing right now but R&B and established artists that have they own avenues and fan bases, i.e. Luda, the only rap artist on DTP that gon plat, Bobby Valentino, the DTP resident R&B dude. I-20, Fate, T-Boy, and Serius aint never gon have no proper release on Def Jam because they aint gon spend the money on them dudes. They interested in who gonna go plat and gold, not trying to establish somebody in the mainstream. That's why none of them dudes is even on DefJam.com as artists under DTP. They need to take Shawnna's move and bounce from there quick while they still got money to make. ONE

GOOD besides Andre 3000 the ENTIRE/WHOLE ATL IS WACK! SOHH WACK!

Man I-20 cd didn't sell well but it went hard in my opinion. I still bump that cd till this day. He had horrible promotion and it kept getting pushed back. Im sorry but in my opinion Luda was always more worried about his projects than his other artist. I remember when Shawnna first cd dropped and she was on 106 n park to show the shake that shit video. For some reason Luda was there to show diamond in the back. That was grimey in my opnion seeing that Luda was established and Shawnna was trying to make a name for herself. Luda might put them on songs or whatever but I dont think they were even on his last joint and was barely on the one before that . I hope to hear another I 20 cd and the joints I have heard leaked by playaz circle go hard. Its a shame they wont get the proper promotion. Damn im about to go bump that how the hell by I 20.

cp I couldnt have said it better. to "THE HATER" kill yoself. Sangano, you are needed on the wack azz NY and West Coast blogs. They need a sucka like you to hold it down for the Papooses and the various shyt West Coast artist.

oh yea rob, the only song that got play on Luda last cd was "Runaway Love"...and that was terrible. LOL come on man, try harder. What you gonna say "Money Maker"? That was equally as terrible. Listen to the lyrics to that shyt, that was the equivalent of Candy Shop. Just cause you through Pharell on that shyt dont make it tight. Sorry.
Luda is the new Puffy of the South.

All my atl niggas know dat when luda first came out he went hard he was still fuckn wit da streets now luda wit commercial with his last 2 albums which aint bad he jux tryna broaden his audience shid he aint got shit 2 prove no more. An i-20 shit was da shit if anybody got it or heard u know wut im talkn bout. Decatur n dis bitch

Ummm... first off... we don't know those other DTP members WORK ETHIC. Maybe they don't work as hard, or care as much about their music. Maybe Luda is holding them back for a good reason... or maybe he isn't even holding them back. Some of y'all r MAAAAADDDD CLOSED MINDED...

GET FAMILIAR. TRUTH BE TOLD 7 10 07

How many units has USDA sold? What about what his face from PSC, the one who dresses like a 80 year old white man, you know..Young Dro, did he go gold?

My point is ain't no big artist other artist sellin like they big homie so ya'll can quit acting like it's a DTP problem only.

Also marketing dept can only do so much, you want them make people buy records? They doing something for Bobby V cause I saw a van with his face and album info at the Rucker last night parked in front of the Polo Ground, so at least the marketing team is getting out this summer, lol!!

In the current climate in the music industry companies can afford to spend millions like they traditionally do to break in new artist, Def Jam included.

Unless you got a gimmick or an established fan base outside of a lil street buzz, no major record label is going to invest millions into these new artist, just the way it is.

Clearly ATL Red is a hater motivated by personal preference. Luda makes such terrible music but goes platinum everytime, how the hell does that happen? Jeezy, TI and Gucci Mane wooooaaah, thats some starting line up you got! Whether Luda sucks or not, answer these questions: out of the 4 names mentioned in this paragraph, who has the grammy for best album of the year? Spin the hate however you want, but I guarantee whatever BS you are gonna say to discredit Luda for accomplishing something as a southern hip hop artist, you wouldn't say if Clifford won.

A dude like Luda helps usher in the southern movement and make it easier for cats to eat off this rap shit, help make and save a few careers and dudes still wanna hate. Are you Gyant's intern or something, is he gonna by you lunch if you succesfully hate on Luda and Bobby today? Where would TI really be if Luda wouldn't have dissed him so hard on "Stomp"?

fyi @ yall da dtp album went gold slightly. wat othr atl grup (Rap)did t hat recently apart from outkast?

DTP IS WHACK NICCA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember three years ago when DTP was touring with Redman, Erick Sermon, Bone Thugs, and some other people, and Titi Boi was announced as the newest act on DTP...maybe people just like sitting on the shelf or something...Cuz Fate and I-20 will always be with Luda cuz they been down from the get go...I haven't ever heard a mixtape from any of his artists other than himself, 20 and thats about it....Everybody else is expendable...As we see from how Shawnna got Dropped!!! Cats is just content being hypemen so let em do what they do...

**It seems that y'all like playing games. Just so we are clear...I didnt make a comment in the comments section about DTP being whack or nothing like that. Unfourtunately our system does allow anyone to assume an identiy so someone is impersonating me.

As flattered as I am its also very reckless. And the comment has since been removed. But everybody wants to get mad when SoHH takes the comments section away. Just something to think about.
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take away the comments section ni99a we going to head over to allhiphop.com you going to body this site more than it already is.

Tell it rob tell it now thats the truth right there thank you and nice scripture pz thank you for that and god bless you that what i needed to hear and whoever put that up is when after ti said "i had the best album of the year ask luda" what and who a hater are you?we aint dumb and i get tried im the king of the south everytime he come out i bet ludacris dont have to say much to get know like he does it nigga just mad because he didnt get award after im the king of the south and king suck im glad i didnt buy and listen to it by someone else for real.Ti is a play out and ludacris dont want to see another stomp and diss him when the shit was not true you heard what he said and fuck the media

It is other artist on DTP doing things, but this community aint really hear them. Smallworld has a track with freeway thats on point, and a don cannon mox-tape thats hot. Brolic D has a joint with cool and dre that dope, and a mix-tape with chuck T thats on point.

yea rob, we all see DTP doing big thangs...(smirk)...how are Shawna and Bobby V doing again? LOL
I agree to disagree, and leave it like that. But seriously, those last 2 albums from Luda been wack. T.I. Urban Legend cd was horrible, but dude come on. And to add on to that diversity of act thing that you spittin out about Luda and acting....ha ha ha, 2 words. American Gangster, starring alongside Denzel Washington, Clifford Harris. Grand Hustle pimp!

Luda and Chaka need to wake up for real for real. Def Jam aint interested in nothing right now but R&B and established artists that have they own avenues and fan bases, i.e. Luda, the only rap artist on DTP that gon plat, Bobby Valentino, the DTP resident R&B dude. I-20, Fate, T-Boy, and Serius aint never gon have no proper release on Def Jam because they aint gon spend the money on them dudes. They interested in who gonna go plat and gold, not trying to establish somebody in the mainstream. That's why none of them dudes is even on DefJam.com as artists under DTP. They need to take Shawnna's move and bounce from there quick while they still got money to make. ONE

Posted by: Jaysiatic at June 20, 2007 3:34 PM

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Brother, I couldn't have said it better myself. Believe me when I tell you that Def Jam (as well as some other so-called 'hip hop labels')has a team of people that are constantly monitoring and tracking trends. With Rap sales nosediving right now, Def Jam is redistributing their assets towards the market with the biggest/most lucrative profit margin and, like any company looking at declining sales, are funneling the money into the market where they believe they have the greatest windfall potential.

In lamens terms: Def Jam is getting out of the rap business!!

Don't believe me? Ask yourself:

- how many rap acts have they signed in the last two years, compared to the number of rap acts they've dropped?

- how many R&B (see: pop) acts like Rhianna have they signed in the last couple of years?

- where is the promotional money going? You can always tell the direction a record company is leaning by tracking promo money.

DTP should give serious consideration to becoming an indie label. Real talk.

Jay-Z is running Def Jam into the ground. Did anyone know LL had a new CD out? No.

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